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During the Olympics, Dennis Shrewder discussed the 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: distinction between Europepen and American game. He said the farmer 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: is he said, the farmer, which is European, is straight 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: IQ basketball, while the latter emphasizes entertainment more. The comment 90 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: clearly caught the attention of one Kevin Durant, who shared 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: a photo of the gold medal celebration in caption entertainment 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: and IQ. Shrewder addressed the comments during the Twist stream 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: and said, Katie is being weak for his reaction. You're 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: the type of star that you have to say something 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: to a person like me who's not even meant it 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: to be negative. It was just I see it from 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: both sides, and you know what I'm saying. I didn't 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I don't care. But at the end of 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: the day, that tweet or whatever he posted was because 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: of me. For me, it was it was never no 101 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: negative stuff. I respect all guys, all goes, but to 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: say to tell me how weak he is as a person. 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't I will see it. This week listen, 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: true To madea true To made a comment. He says, 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: NBA basketball here is all about entertainment in NBA basketball 106 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: where he's from in that. 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: Area, European basketball, Europeing. 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 5: Basketball is all IQ. To play in the NBA, you 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: have to have some type of IQ. You have to 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: not only least skill set, you have to have an 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 5: IQ to play the game of basketball, whether you're playing 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: in Europe, whether you're playing in America, no matter where 113 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: you plan, you have to have an extensive IQ. Now 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: you have some you have some players who's IQ is 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: much better than much much better than others. Lebron Jacoby's, 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: You're Michael Jordan's who see the floor a little different 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: than everybody else. But I mean, it's a comment like 118 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: that is unnecessary. It's unnecessary. It's something like that. That's 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: something you can probably keep to yourself, and then when 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 5: you do ste it out publicly, when you say something publicly, 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: you have to be willing to take the criticism that 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: comes with it from a player one of the best, 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: I might add that he's in the entertainment side of basketball, 124 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 5: as you so called it, who also has an IQ 125 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 5: for the game. So I mean listen, you got to 126 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: you got to be able to take the criticism when 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 5: you say something publicly. 128 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the simple fact that if he makes it 129 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: seem like the American game is all about entertainment, that 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: these guys don't have high basketball IQ and like you say, 131 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: you have to have a certain level of basketball like you. 132 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: But just like any sports, there are certain great players 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: that have a higher level of the IQ. 134 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: But to say, your guys are i Q. 135 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: And it's not and it's not entertaining, and this is 136 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: entertaining and not basketball IQ. I'm surprised more guys than 137 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: didn't didn't respond. But true to you, Look, you're entitled 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: to your opinion, but you can't be upseting if somebody 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: gives you their opinion back. So he just captures like, oh, okay, 140 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: this is entertained, entertainment and IQ. 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: And to each his own he had, he has an opinion. 142 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 5: I don't agree with his opinion. To play any sport, 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: whether it's basketball, football, hockey, whatever it may be, especially 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: even even individual sports, it turns it takes a certain 145 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 5: level of i Q to be great at those to 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: be able to get at any level. 147 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it makes sense to him, it 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. 149 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: What if what is pro sports entertainment? 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it comes down to at the end 151 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: of the day. 152 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: And the more entertaining you are, guess what, the more 153 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: money you make. 154 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: And the thing was, look at the Spurs. 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: The Spurs had a great dynasty with Duncan and Gennobili 156 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: and Parker, but they was boring as hell. They played 157 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: great basketball hot by Basketball IQ. 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: But ain't nobody. 159 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody breaking down the door trying to go see Jersey. 160 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: She's all there. 161 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: She like the Spurs, the Cowboys, TC. She like all 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: that bullgye. 163 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: But they broccoli And look, they won five championship, probably 164 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: should have had six had ray Alla not hit that shot. 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan would have been perfect six and zero. But 166 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: they were boring. They weren't entertaining. There's a reason why 167 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: the Lakers got the showtime Showtime Lakers. Yeah, that's and 168 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: people flooded to go see those guys play. 169 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a reason why you know. 170 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Steph Curry because he's entertaining. Jordan that were entertaining. So 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: there's levels. Yes, I believe you could have both. But 172 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: to say the biggest difference, No, they play a game, 173 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: you guys have been playing. So let's just say, okay, 174 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: for if lebron kd Isteath had been playing together like 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Shrewd and those guys, or like the Serbian team, or 176 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: like the French national team, had they been playing together 177 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: for years, y'all never beat them. Now they got together 178 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: a month. You guys been playing together for ten. 179 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: Five, six, seven, eight, ten years. 180 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: They got together one month, So let them play together 181 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: for ten years. So let this up and coming guys, 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: these up and comers play together for ten years. 183 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Y'all never beat them, nah at all. 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure why he said it. 185 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: Maybe it's something he believes, maybe some of the players 186 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: he's been surrounded by in the NBA it makes him 187 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 5: feel that way, and thinking that the players that he 188 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: plays with in Germany have a higher IQ than them. 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: But when you say it like that. 190 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: And it speaks for everybody, and because he didn't put 191 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: a name on anything, and it just didn't make. 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: Sense to me, let me ask your question. 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I'm entertaining, 233 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: and I played the game very IQ. 234 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, so eat it. 235 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: And I'm sure other other players so well they just 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: chose not to respond. 237 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: Man. 238 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: We ain't paying that, no man. 239 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 240 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean look, Trud, I mean you gotta 241 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: expect that when you say something like that, somebody gonna 242 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: probably take offense to what you said. But here's the thing. Intent, 243 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: And this is what I tell people about intent. Right, 244 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: It's like I remember my professor doctor well she asked 245 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: us in class. He said, what's the difference between murder 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: and manslaughter? And you know, as like you know, and 247 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: he's like, he gave us this turn. He said intent, 248 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: he said manslaughter, And you know, there is no intent murder. 249 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: There's malice, there's forethought, there's intent premeditation, he said, But 250 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: intent only matters to the defendant. The victim is just 251 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: as dead. So whether he intended it to be offensive 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: or not, Katie took it that way, Well, I said, 253 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: this man, that wasn't my intention. Well, you're tension. That 254 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: only mattered to you. But the person that you said 255 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: it to was equally was still offended by what you said. 256 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: So whether you intended it to be that way or not, 257 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: intent only matters to you because the person is still 258 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: offended by what you said. So, hey, lesson learning, shrewd. 259 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll see each other. I mean, what're shrewter 260 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: that last year Toronto? But he got traded, He got 261 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: the Brooklyn, the Brooklyn got you, So I'm sure. 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: Look, they gonna cross pass. I'm sure that. 263 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: Hey, one thing I know about KDK ain't got no problem. 264 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: Hey he with the raptors. Oh, I'm sure he doesn't 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: have a problem, they'll address it move forward. Oh Joe 266 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony says he would not trade his Olympic gold 267 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: medal for an NBA ring. Melo said, when we talk 268 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: about global sports, for me, medals means something totally different 269 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: than the NBA Championship. They both have their own separate meanings. 270 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: But winning a gold medal is the passion, it's the 271 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 2: pride that you have not just or a city or 272 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: a state, but for a. 273 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: Whole nation, a whole country. 274 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: You're winning for three gold medals, four medals for me 275 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: is bigger than an NBA championship because I understand the 276 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: impact of it. Not everybody wins a gold medal, not 277 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: everybody wins a silver or bronze. 278 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean, what's your take on you know. 279 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: With the way you and Steven A and the other 280 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: basketball enthusiasts and basketball heads talk about the importance of 281 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: having a championship and getting that monkey off your back, 282 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: it would make it It would make it seem to 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: me that it's more important to have a championship ring 284 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: because that's how you're evaluated. When we talk about some 285 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: of the greatest of all time, when we talk about 286 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: the goat conversation. I mean, not a great phenomenal player, 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: but the goat conversation. You know, it's rings and how 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: many times you've been there, how many chances you had 289 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: to actually win win. I think there's a difference in 290 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: the gold medals in the championships. Now we talk about 291 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: the sport of basketball. I'm not sure how you view it, 292 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: but he views it in in this manner. Now, I 293 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: think asking you were talking to a stephen A Smith, 294 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 5: they might view it in a completely different manner. I 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: think there's an importance in both and representing your country, 296 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: but I think the difficulty of winning a championship is 297 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: a little different because you're playing against the best of 298 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: the best, as opposed to the Olympics, where you're coupled 299 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: all together with the best players from the NBA against 300 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 5: Excuse me, I don't mean to be disrespectful. I don't 301 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: want to say inferior opponents, opponents that are not as 302 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: good collectively as us. 303 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Did I say that right without being disrespectful? 304 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: You did? Okay. 305 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: I think it's either for Melo to say that because 306 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't have an NBA title. People ask me all 307 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: the time, Shannon, would you when would you rather have 308 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl ring or Hall of Fame ring? I said, well, 309 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: like glad, I don't have to make that decision because 310 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: I have them both both. Right, It's easy to say 311 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: when you don't have something for me. I don't think 312 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: we judge any player. I've never heard someone rank somebody 313 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: ahead of someone else because they had an Olympic gold medal. 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: Now I could be wrong, chat y'all correct men from wrong, 315 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: but I didn't say. They didn't say, well, we're gonna 316 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: put this person over that person because he has a 317 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: gold medal, or we're gonna put this person below that 318 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: person because he has a bronze or silver and the 319 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: other person has a goal. Championships is what it's about. 320 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: That's what you played for. That's ultimate how we're judged. 321 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley would be ranked a lot higher had he 322 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: had a title. He got gold medals, but ain't nobody 323 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: putting him in front of Duncan and all those other guys, 324 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: because why Duncan has a title, has multiple titles. 325 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: So I mean, look, he can feel that way. 326 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm not. 327 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Look that's the way he feels. But it's easy to 328 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: say that when that's your only option, O, Joe, Man, 329 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: what you eat to night? 330 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: Chicken? Well, man, I love chicken. 331 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: What that's all you got? You ain't got no state, right, 332 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: you don't got turkey, you don't have anything. You don't 333 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: have fish. So if that's your only option, what are 334 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: you supposed to say? What is the what's the choice between? 335 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Because we're dealing with a hypothetical. He wouldn't trade because 336 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: it's impossible to trade. 337 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: When you think that's you think if he did have one, 338 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 5: he would still feel the same way. 339 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: No, because he oh Joe, if that was the case, 340 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: why he drive? Why he joined Lebron He tried to 341 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: win a title? He joined Russ in Oklahoma City, trying 342 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: to win a title. He tried, He joined Dane in 343 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: CJ in Portland. He wasn't trying to win no gold medal. 344 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: What was he trying to do win a title? If 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't that important because he had accomplished everything. He 346 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: already had gold medals, already had three of them. When 347 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: he bounced the boom boom boom, boom boom. What was 348 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: that about? 349 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: I think Muscoll trying to solidify, you know, to solidify 350 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 5: that legacy. That to me, it's already cemented, and he 351 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 5: is a legend in his own right regardless, even without the. 352 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: Ring first ballot Hall of Famer, we're not even questioning 353 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: that it's one of the great scores of all time. 354 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 3: There's no debating, we're not trying to debate. 355 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: But I just think the thing is when guys, when 356 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: guys say, well, I'd rather have this and I have that, 357 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: when that's your only option. 358 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: It's easy to say, Okay, I see what you mean. 359 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: I see what you mean. 360 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, oh yo. 361 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: Probably if I had, if all I had was a 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ring, I would probably say, you're a 363 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 364 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: I'd rather be in the Hall of Fame. 365 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: There are fewer of us, but I don't know anybody 366 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: that actually goes into the game and says I'm planning 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: to get into the Hall of Fame. You hear guy 368 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: says I want to win the title. I want the 369 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: CONFEDDERI to rain down on me and our colors. I 370 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: want to hear we are the champions playing in the backdrop. 371 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: I didn't eve think about it. I didn't even know 372 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: anything about. 373 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame until Mark Kinsler told me he 374 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: and Woody Page started talking to me in nineteen ninety seven. 375 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: I had no idea that I was even conde, that 376 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: could even be a possible, Ye, right, But. 377 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: I know about them Super Bowls. 378 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: I know being in the AFC Championship Game in ninety 379 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: one and losing ten seven of Buffalo and being that close, 380 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: and he's seeing the dejection on the guys in the 381 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: locker room afterwards, realizing you're that close. You're that close. Yeah, look, yeah, 382 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame is great. You're in a very 383 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: very elite company. You see, o Cho They sent me 384 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: a cup. Can you see that? Yeah, that's my number. 385 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm number two sixty seven. I'm the two hundred and 386 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: sixty seventh member in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 387 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 5: Hey, I got me a cup too. You know my cups, 388 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 5: say one one of the one that said it's just me. 389 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: But o Choe. 390 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: That journey, yes, sir, that I went on with those 391 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: guys to go on the road and play Kansas City, 392 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: to go on the road and play Pittsburgh in Old 393 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: three Rivers, and when I was in Baltimore, to go 394 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: on the road and beat Tennessee, and go on the 395 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: road and beat Oakland. 396 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: Hang gonna lie. I loved the Hall of Fame. 397 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: I love going back and seeing all the greats and 398 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: CNLT and see buckets and see some of the greats 399 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: that are passed on. Nothing replace that, bro ain't can't nothing. 400 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: Nothing replaced that, Donna. Let anybody tell you different. There's 401 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: there's something about because that's what I wanted. I wanted 402 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: to win a championship. I wanted to make a Pro Bowl. 403 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to be an All Pro, and I wanted 404 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: to be a win a championship. Now, I didn't know 405 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: how long I was gonna play. I played a lot long. 406 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, if I get me a year, hey, 407 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: obviously you can't do all that in the year. I'm 408 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: a seventh the round draft pick, I said. But now, 409 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I got five years. And in 410 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: five years, I got a first team All Pro, I 411 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: got three Pro Bowl selections. 412 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm good. 413 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm going now let me see if I can get 414 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? How good can we get to get 415 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: a super Bowl? We got a super Bowl? Now, on Joe, 416 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: you can't hit me and asked with a red apple, 417 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Cause I got super I got like six Pro Bowls. 418 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: I got like. 419 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: Three first team All Pro or the second team All Pro, 420 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: not what and to go on that journey to see 421 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: what goes into it. All that hard work that you 422 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: did that summer, all that lifted, all that eating, denying 423 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: yourself for me, Now there are maybe some people might 424 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: feel just like mellow Fields, say, hey, I'd rather have 425 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: a Gold medal that an NBA title. I would rather 426 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame than have an NFL 427 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: Super Bowl or a World Series ring or whatever. But 428 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: I just don't know who gets in a professional sport 429 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: and says my objective is to win the Hall of Fame, 430 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: You'll be in the Hall of Fame. 431 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody. I mean 432 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: because of your play, because of your stellar play throughout 433 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 5: numerous years of consistent elite play. I mean, it's just 434 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 5: it's it's just warrant it. 435 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: That's what happens, you know, because at the Hall of Fame, ohoe, 436 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: somebody else determines your validation. You got fifty minion women, 437 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: that's voting. Ain't nobody voting for no titles. You got 438 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: to go through. You gotta run the gauntment and sometimes 439 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: you have to beat sometimes, Hey, something, there are some 440 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: people that win a title and you're the favorite, But 441 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: to go on the road as the underdog, that's just me, Like, hey, 442 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: chat out. 443 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys think. That's just me. 444 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, Mellow might sincerely feel that way, and hey, 445 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't begrudge him, But I just don't know if 446 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: if the Hall of Fame, if the if rings, especially 447 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: in basketball now, when we're talking about sprinters, gold medals 448 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: mean something. When we're talking when we're talking about track 449 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: and field, we're talking about swimming, that means something. 450 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: We're talking about individual events. But I don't. I just don't. 451 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: I've never heard. 452 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: And maybe because pros weren't going when I grew up. 453 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: But even then, I ain't nobody saying, well, oh, because 454 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: Jordan got a gold medal, he's the greatest. 455 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: They don't even they don't in fact that end right Kobe? 456 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: If so noo, If Kobe didn't have a gold medal, 457 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: if Kobe didn't play that war, what the one year 458 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: we're gonna look at Kobe. 459 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: Different, Not at all. 460 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: We're not a little different. 461 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: We don't look at we don't look at shaking Shaq 462 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: got a gold medal. 463 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: Shack says he was so upset that how how they 464 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: did it about not playing him a whole bunch that 465 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: He's like, I'll throw it through. I think I threw 466 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: my gold medal away. I don't know if that's true 467 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: or not. But are we down? So if Shaq didn't 468 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: have a gold medal, are we gonna down it? No? 469 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: Hell or not? 470 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: So shit, we can't. 471 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 5: We can't even down Mellow because Mellow was one of 472 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: the greatest even with that, he was without even without 473 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 5: the championship ring. 474 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: But again, when it comes to the conversations of some of. 475 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: The best all time, again the Goat conversation, it's just 476 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: it's people get left out of that conversation because they 477 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 5: weren't able to win a ring, like you said, Berkley. 478 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: So kind of unfair though, honestly, because sometimes that's stuff 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 5: like that is out of control. You know, if you're 480 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: playing an individual sport, I understand, but but you're playing 481 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 5: a team game. You're playing a team game where you're 482 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: trying you can to get to win an NBA championship, 483 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: and sometimes things just don't go your way. 484 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: I just I love, but I don't allow with your Yeah, 485 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: I ain't did all idea to get to the Hall 486 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 2: of Fame. I'm trying to win a championship because that's 487 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: because that's really someone else voting. 488 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: I really could control. I play good. 489 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: I greatly increase with my chance of helping my team 490 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: win because that's what I'm there for. Guys, I see 491 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: every day putting into work, just like you and I 492 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: going to work, meeting, preparing to doing all we can. 493 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: Man, I ain't. 494 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 2: Even after I'm like, man, okay, I've done pretty good 495 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: at this point, it's still hurt. I ain't thinking about Man, 496 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to the Hall of Fame. Even when Mike 497 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: would address me our Hall of Famer. 498 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: Now, don't do me no good. 499 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: We lost, right, we lost. Losing always hurt me, ojo 500 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: It bothered me. It still does. That's why I don't 501 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: do a whole lot of stuff, because I don't like 502 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: to lose. I'm a sore loser, but I'm a worst winner. 503 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm care I'm a worst winner, O Joe. 504 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: For sure, I had I had to to mask losing, 505 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 5: and is it deal with it by being entertaining? Yeah, 506 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 5: you gotta think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if 507 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 5: anybody can look it up real quick in the chat. 508 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: Can you tell me how many winning seasons we had 509 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: during my tenure in Cincinnati? So when we weren't winning, 510 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: I had to find other ways to cope with the 511 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: fact that I'm not sure how this game is going 512 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 5: to go. But what I am going to do for 513 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 5: the people that came to watch is they gonna get 514 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: their goddamn money's worth. Yeah, do everything I can possibly 515 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: do in my power to make sure it's entertaining week 516 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 5: in and week out. I don't get I don't care 517 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 5: what our record look like. You finna get a goddamn shore. 518 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: I can tell you that, oh Joe Jeff Bezos, one 519 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: of the world's richest man of my dog now the 520 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: team now after winning the title? That what's the name 521 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: gross Beck grossback plan to sell the team. The NBA 522 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: wants to sell. Price to be six billion. According to 523 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: Bill Simmons, they don't own their arena. It's a crazy 524 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: that's a crazy price for somebody that don't owned the arena. 525 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: But they're probably going to get it. Why six billion? 526 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 2: The league wants to establish a price which the sale 527 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: as a precursor to the expansion. According to Simmons. They 528 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: wanted to be six billion apiece and expansion fees for 529 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: teams in Seattle in Las Vegas, which means a check 530 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: four hundred million for every NBA own them all thirty 531 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: I like that. 532 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: Now listen and does anybody that can do it? It 533 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 5: would be Jeff Bezos. Then Jeff has any background or 534 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 5: knowledge in the game of basketball. 535 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. 536 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 5: If he doesn't, I'm sure he has a team of 537 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: people that can consult him on whether this is a 538 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 5: good decision or not. Jeff Bezos a businessman who thinks 539 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 5: long term. How does this affect him long term? And 540 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 5: whatever his end goal might be his five year plan, is, 541 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: ten year plan, whatever it may be, it might be 542 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 5: something good that he can think about doing. And do 543 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: you want to actually own the basketball team understanding all 544 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 5: that it comes with, all that it entails, not that 545 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 5: you're gonna be hands on because you have a team 546 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: of people that are going to do everything. Matter of fact, hell, 547 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: we could have had Jeff on the night. You should 548 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: have told me this was part of this is part 549 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: of the topic. I could I could have hadn't you know. 550 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: Call in? We could have did this via zoom, asking myself. 551 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm surprised he didn't buy one of the hadn't got 552 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: a football team. The Commanders came available, the Walton Penners 553 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: purchased the Broncos. Football teams come available a little less 554 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: often than baseball than basketball teams. But when you got 555 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: that kind of money, he's probably worth one hundred and 556 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: sixty one hundred and sixty one, one hundred and forty 557 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty billion dollars. 558 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: What's six billion to him? 559 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: Nothing? Excuse my language, exactly nothing. 560 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: And that point in time is just that you know, 561 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I got all this money, but it's like, 562 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, hey, let me let me own the professional 563 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: let me on the sports ted. 564 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's those. 565 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: People, elite, the elite one percent that had that kind 566 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: of money. They're very strategic and the decision they make, 567 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: if it's not about making more money, they're not doing it. 568 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: They're not doing it. 569 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: Or you're not losing money with a professional team. 570 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course you're not losing money, but it is 571 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: it's something that you're passionate about. At times, there has 572 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: to be something that they're passionate about that they know 573 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: that's going to recoup whatever you put into it. 574 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh yo, yes, sir, When you that, when you got 575 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: that kind of money, you just like to own the whole. 576 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: That's why they buy forty million dollar dinosaurs. Why the 577 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: hell you buying forty million dollars worth of dinosaur bones? 578 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: Or you buying a paying five hundred million for a 579 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: painting to hang on your wall, or you got a 580 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: billion dollar yacht. 581 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like the own ish. Yeah, would you got that? Oho? 582 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with all that money? You 583 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: can't take it with you, so why not enjoy it? 584 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: By Okay, I want to own I want to own this. 585 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: I want to Stan Krokey. He owns the Rams, he 586 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: owns the Nuggets, he owned the Avalanche, he owned a 587 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: soccer team. 588 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Hey stand smooth as hell boy. 589 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: So at some point in time, Oho, it's just not 590 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: like I'm the world. I got one hundred billion, I 591 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: got two hundred billion, okay, and what back? So now, 592 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: let me get a sports franchise, Let me get an 593 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: NFL team, a MLB or basketball, let me get a 594 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: soccer team. 595 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: I got his hand in a little bit of everything. 596 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: So, uh, he has the money, obviously, Uh boy, that's 597 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: a steep price and for who? But what what what happened? 598 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: Ohoe? It's when the NBA forced Donald Sterling. 599 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: To sell the Clippers. Yes, sir, and Steve Bomber wanted 600 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: to own that team so bad. If I'm not mistaken, 601 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: Sacramento had just sold for like four hundred million. 602 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: That's it. 603 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 5: That's it, looking me talking about that's it? Like I 604 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: got four hundred million. 605 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: He paid five times? 606 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Right? 607 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: What the highest bid? 608 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: Excuse me, had ever been so French? Had it ever 609 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: been so for her? He paid five thirty Okay, he 610 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: turns around and pays two point two billion. 611 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 1: Yes, but you see how Steve is. 612 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 5: You see how passionate he is about basketball, how passionate 613 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 5: is about the game like that. 614 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: I just don't see Jeff. Jeff ain't like that. I 615 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: don't see him as now. 616 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: He's a little bit more. He's a little bit more. 617 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: I've been around him a couple of times, poking with him. 618 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't know him, but I've been around him a 619 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: couple of times. He's quiet, but he'll he'll talk like 620 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: he likes fall. 621 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd have met just a few times, you know, 622 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: with Roger Gazelle, you know, I said, with the suite, 623 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: I talked to him for a little bit like nothing 624 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 5: like that. So I've had we crossed past a few times, 625 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: and a normal dude, if you didn't know who he. 626 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: Was, you walk right by No, no, no, no, you're. 627 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: Right right byan and you wouldn't think not of it. 628 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: No, you're you're absolutely you're you're absolutely right. 629 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: Very I met him and his brother at an event 630 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: for as a matter of fact, with the NFL. But yeah, 631 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if they if that's what they if that's 632 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: what they're going for, hey you want it? Oh yoall yeah. 633 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay 634 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: for it. 635 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 636 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: That's why I hate when people ask when I hate 637 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 5: when certain people talk about I know my worth and 638 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 5: I know my value. 639 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, of course you do. 640 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: But who's willing to pay for it? That's the problem 641 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 5: and that's the issue. 642 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: Uh It says his net worth, Jeff bezos networth is 643 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: worth He's worth one hundred and ninety six billion dollars. 644 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are, we are, yes, we are. 645 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: One hundred and ninety six billion. 646 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you notice I said we. You know, I 647 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: work for Amazon to now. 648 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: One hundred and ninety six billion. Man, what kind of. 649 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: That's a lot? What you do with that? 650 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: Just hypothetically speaking, if you had one hundred ninety six 651 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 5: billion right now, what you do with that? 652 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: I know Black colleges ain't gonna be ain't gonna be 653 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: suffering no more. Yeah, I know I know that for 654 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: certain Like I know my community. There's gonna be a 655 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: lot of outreach programs in my community. My community is 656 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot better, a lot better shape than 657 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: what we're in right now. 658 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: I can bet you that. Now. 659 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: I might be worth one hundred and ninety six billion today, 660 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: but when I die, I ain't gonna be worth. 661 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: A hundred ninety six billion. Ain't lie. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, 662 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: I'm not. Yeah, don't don't. 663 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna And I'm not gonna leave all that 664 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: money to my I'm gonna leave them enough to do something, 665 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: but not enough where. 666 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: They ain't got to do nothing, right. 667 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: I like that. 668 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: So oh yeah, Savannah State gonna be Savannah State, gonna 669 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: be well well lofed, and then. 670 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: I will trickle that down to it. 671 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 2: I think it's probably one hundred and twenty five hundred 672 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: and fifty other college black colleges. 673 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: Oh, they're gonna be straight. My community, Yeah. 674 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: Gona be good the hell. Yeah, one hundred and ninety 675 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: six million. 676 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm thinking for one, First, off, my kids and those 677 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 5: I have kids from everybody, good. 678 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm taking care of that. 679 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 5: I'm taking care of home first, a nucleus that that's 680 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 5: very important to me. Obviously, my mom and my mom 681 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 5: and my grandma are going, my brothers, make sure they're 682 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 5: good schools. Fam you obviously you know how much I 683 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 5: love fam you. Yeah, Oregon State. 684 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: Got to get back. 685 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: To Oregon State, even though I was only there for 686 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 5: four months. 687 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, my immediate close friends, and it ain't that many. 688 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 5: It's probably it's probably eight of us I'm talking about close, 689 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 5: and make sure they good. Um, there's some other other 690 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 5: entities that I that I enjoy, that I support charities. 691 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 5: I'm going to pour into them as well. And that's 692 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 5: That's that's all I can think of right now. Yeah, 693 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: I'm sure it's more. I'm just hypothetically speaking right now 694 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 5: off the top of my head. Some of the things 695 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 5: that things, things I would do. But yeah, well, I 696 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 5: ain't gonna be too crazy though. 697 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me a new smart car. 698 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. I don't want know. Uh, 699 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: I don't. 700 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: I don't care know about no cars. I got enough cars. 701 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't have all the cars. If I don't get 702 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: another car, I'm good. 703 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm good with it. I'm good on cars. 704 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I tell you what. 705 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: The Battle States broke a Nick Saban coming out of retirement. 706 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: Gonna listen and ni money. Listen. But fam, you're gonna 707 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: be a power five school when I'm done. 708 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're gonna be coaching. That's a battle the 709 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: n I l oh. 710 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: Y'all want a battle? 711 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: Who won a battle? Come on down here to tallahass 712 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: and now I got yes, sir, being a stimulus package. 713 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: Savetter State. 714 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: They're gonna have number five stars. We ain't got number 715 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: five stars. Football and basketball. Hey, bracket field girls basketball, 716 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh the next juju walking preace backers. 717 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: Come on down to Battle State. I like it. 718 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: Come on, get this to gone and get this hey. 719 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: I would play y'all more than that. Y'all gonna make 720 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: going to the w NBA. Come on down here and 721 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: get this money. Oh for sure. 722 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 3: I like it. Man, that ain't right, It is right. 723 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: It ain't wrong either, So I'll just tell you what 724 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: if I had that, buddy, I'm taking care of black 725 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: colleges at my community. 726 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna build this thing up, Yes, for sure. 727 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 5: I'm thinking chain na change Liberty City, NA change it 728 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 5: the name of Liberty City and call up call it 729 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 5: O Show's world, by everybody, by all back, by all, 730 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 5: by all, by all the buildings up, by all Wynwood back. Yeah, 731 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 5: because you know, everything of them came in and brought 732 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 5: up all all the stuff, all the people out, and 733 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: to push all my people out, bring them, bring them 734 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 5: on back home so we can we can have our wonderful, 735 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 5: beautiful city back. 736 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: Man. I gotta buy franchise. Get we got about getting 737 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: bout five, four or five of us. We're gonna get 738 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: us a franchise. We go with a football team, a 739 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: basketball team, damn. Yeah, for sure. 740 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: I just want one all black. 741 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: But we're all black owners, yeah, majority owners. Yep. And 742 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't even want to be the face of it. 743 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: I just want us. 744 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: Line. 745 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to be one hundred and ninety six billion. 746 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 5: I mean, just hey, pathetic speaking. I asked Mike Brown, 747 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 5: and I asked Mike Brown and said. 748 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: With the team he's feeling it. 749 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 5: I know, I mean, and I mean that in a 750 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 5: respectful way, and I like the way they run things, 751 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 5: but I just want to be on it. 752 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: If I was to be an owner, either I. 753 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 5: Asked Stephen Ross, Stephen Ross to send me the Dolphins 754 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 5: or Mike Brown to sell. 755 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: Me, you got a better chance. 756 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: You got a better chance because Stephen Ross doesn't have 757 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: the attachment to the Dolphins like Mike Brown has to 758 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: the beanis right. 759 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: You gotta realize Mike Brown dad founded the. 760 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: Banesses, so there's a little bit there's a little bit 761 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: more attachment to it. It's kind of like the mccaskey's 762 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: and the Bears. There's a little bit more attachment of 763 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Hunt. Lamar Hunt founded Kansas City, Clark 764 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: Hunt and his brothers. They're not getting off that that's 765 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: a family business. So you're probably gonna have to have somebody, 766 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: oh cho that that purchased the team that doesn't have 767 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: the same attachment, the family attachment, the family connection to it. 768 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: Now, Jerry ain't ever getting rid of. 769 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: The Cowboy, so I don't listen, and they just had 770 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 2: a ten billion dollar evaluation, But you're probably gonna have 771 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: to find somebody that doesn't have the family attachment. Uh, 772 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 2: the Titans, you're not getting them. Amy Adams skunk the 773 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: name abud Adam's daughter. Yeah, he founded that, he founded 774 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: the Houston Hatler. You're not getting that from her. 775 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going too far now, snatic one of the other. 776 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: So if it's. 777 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: Madunk, he trunk, drunk strunk Amy Adams Trump. So like 778 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: I said, you know, oh Joe, like, uh, you probably 779 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: like the Wilsons because they saw it. 780 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: Because a lot of times you got these on them 781 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: because the. 782 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: Or that the death tax was so great that the 783 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: owner would die and the family would have to like 784 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: it's gonna take forty five of it, so you had 785 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 2: to sell it. Dang. 786 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 5: Yeah he could You imagine if I owner and magic 787 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 5: is I about owning the Dolphins? Like, think about that. 788 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 5: I'd be the first owner that on the team and 789 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 5: play I mike me, don I don't give, but I 790 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 5: don't give. If it's one play, put me in the game. 791 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 3: This man would have go out there. You got all 792 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: that money, want to go out there. You have in 793 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: the game. 794 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 5: Hey, put me in again, you know, put me listen, 795 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 5: one play. I ain't I ain't got to do much 796 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 5: as I'll tell you what they playing play at Coche. 797 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 5: Gim everything. 798 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm closing down Madge City for the whole week. Ain't 799 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: nobody come. 800 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 3: In there with me? 801 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: What about the women? 802 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: That's who I want to see? Ain't no other to 803 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: do it? 804 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: You can't, you can't, I can't. 805 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: I got don't tell me what I can and can't do. 806 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 2: I got them all over the whole week. Hey, buddy, 807 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: private that's funny, or a private eving? 808 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 3: Oh shoke? Matter fact, we can have. 809 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: A private event. And when when you when you fly 810 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: to Atlanta? 811 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 3: When? 812 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: When? Okay, I'm I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving tomorrow. 813 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: I'm gona leave tomorrow morning. 814 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: I leave to morrow. What you going down there early? 815 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: For? 816 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: What you mean? What do you mean I'm going? I 817 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: got it? 818 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: I ain't. 819 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: I ain't only being at Atlanta like that. So I'm 820 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: just trying to get myself acclimated. 821 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: But Rail ain't gonna be there. No, we Rail get there. 822 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: Two. I don't think she coming. She got Oh okay, 823 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: she got to take care of oh. 824 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: Zion Williams apparent weight lost draws attention on social media. 825 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: Zion was posting with the kids attending in his basketball 826 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: camp in Spartanburg, South Carolina, and looked noticeably thinner. He 827 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 2: has reportedly lost twenty five pounds since December. Zion reportedly 828 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 2: he's currently at two hundred and eighty one pounds less 829 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: than what he weighed due to eighty five, and intends 830 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 2: to be two seventy two when the NBA regular season begins. 831 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: He was listed at two eighty four last season. 832 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: So if he was two eighty four last season and 833 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: he lost twenty five pounds, so how much was he? 834 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: Hey, that's two. 835 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 5: Eighty one right there we're looking at He looks small 836 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 5: as hell? How tall is How tall as I am? 837 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: Like sixty six? 838 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, back like Jordan Hype. Hey, listen, the smaller, 839 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: the smaller he get, the better. 840 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 3: One on his knees, on his ankles and his hips. Yet, Yeah, 841 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 3: and that's a lot of force going up and. 842 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: Down most definitely listen. 843 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 5: And the smaller he gets thinking about the more explosion, 844 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 5: how much better he'll feel about himself, you know, being 845 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 5: able to move latterly taking people off the dribble. Listen, 846 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 5: he can already do it anyway, but even if you're 847 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 5: losing your even if he's losing his. 848 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: Weight, he's not gonna lose his strength. 849 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 3: No, Oh man, he can be he can be heat. 850 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 3: You can't even lose no weight no more any time 851 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: somebody lose weight. Oh he on that zimpitt. 852 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: No you can't wait. You can't take THOSEMP then ain't 853 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: that illegal? 854 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: No? 855 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? 856 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: But legal for what? Yeah? 857 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to do that playing those 858 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: sport man, that's that's too much because you be out there. 859 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 5: Nah, you'd be had to doing what I'm ozimbic. I'm 860 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 5: sure it would affect you in a different way outside 861 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 5: of losing weight. 862 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: No, you do what I think you were still having 863 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: his strength and all that that bounce and all that 864 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: would be there. 865 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 866 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: Should what it does It curves your appetite and you uh, 867 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: you know your sugar, so which process in turns the fat? 868 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: Okay, So how does people lose weight so fast? Though? 869 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 3: Because it curves your appetite, you don't. 870 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: Eat, No, it ain't. Now, there's more to it than that. 871 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 5: Nah, I done seen some people back damn near four 872 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: hundred pounds in two weeks, stay about one hundred and fifty. 873 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: That's more than just not eating well. 874 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 3: That's crack. That ain't no exibit, that's. 875 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I like it. 876 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: I like it. 877 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 5: And sometimes certain people, some people are just meant to 878 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 5: be of size. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say big. Yeah, 879 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 5: some people are meant to be upside because when they 880 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 5: lose weight, they just don't they don't look right. 881 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: They don't look right. 882 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 5: You're supposed to have a little a low, a little meat, 883 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 5: You're supposed to be a little, a little. 884 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: Curvy, and it just at times, it's just it just 885 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: doesn't look right. You know, you're weight on you. 886 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: They talked about it. You give you diarrhel what stop? 887 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: Won't be eating? 888 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: I eat the wrong thing right now, I get diar real. 889 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: That ain't on no zhibit. You're gonna try it on 890 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: Joe Taff. 891 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 5: But you don't see how big got in. God, let 892 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 5: me tell my camera down a little bit. I know 893 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 5: you probably you probably can't see you see how I'm 894 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 5: filling in. 895 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm all, I'm all, I'm all yoked up 896 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: right now. 897 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 5: I told you by the time we get I told 898 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 5: you by the time we get to Atlanta, I told 899 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 5: you I'd be a. 900 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: Two hundred you ain't believe me, My love, my love, 901 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: pay Lake soccer shirt don't even fit. You don't fit right? 902 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, see, I'll be sweating on here. That's 903 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 2: why I got me a towel now. Because I do 904 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: Cardio a mess up too, No, hell, no mistake. Okay, No, 905 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: but I do car I do Cardios. So I've come 906 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: to the conclusion, O Joe, me and Cardio in the 907 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 2: in the morning, we don't get along. 908 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 3: Why not? I don't like doing Cardiff. 909 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: That was the only time, O Joe, in all my 910 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 2: in college, me and my college coach got in one 911 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: disagreement real that morning workout. 912 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: That's the best time to work out before the sun 913 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: come up. 914 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: No, it ain't before the sun come up. Nope, nope. 915 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: Are you tripped? Nope? 916 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 3: You so I shifted. I said I'm gonna do. I'm 917 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: gonna go to the gym. 918 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, work out between eleven thirty and twelve, come home, eat, chill. 919 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 3: Looking to get on the bike. Yeah. Oh man, Hell, 920 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 3: I don't eat. I don't eat till nine fifteen. 921 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I don't even eat breakfast in the morning. 922 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm my bad. Let me let me take 923 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 5: that back. I eat breakfast in the morning. But I'm 924 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 5: at the gym at six am. Oh no, Jim, I'm 925 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 5: an early I'm an early riser. I'm an early riser. 926 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 2: Now. 927 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 5: Yesterday this morning, I messed up a little bit. I 928 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 5: ain't making it to the gym to eight thirty because 929 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 5: you know the show whoom when we get off. Hey boy, 930 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 5: not not yesterday's show, but the show. But we had 931 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 5: no allows on yeah, and burning them yeah, or I 932 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 5: would fight for my life. Boy, Oh god, I was 933 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 5: my life trying to stay up. As you could tell 934 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 5: to night. 935 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: I just took a goddamn I just took a nap. 936 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: You took a nap. So that's what that's what I 937 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: do with you. I I work out in the afternoons. 938 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: I get my garage and been about one hundred and 939 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,919 Speaker 2: fifteen in there. Yeah, and I burned anywhere between three 940 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: hundred and eight hundred calories. I'm good. And so by 941 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: the time I come on here, that's why I'm sweating, guys. 942 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be It's gonna be like this so 943 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 2: on the almost night because I gotta get to get 944 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 2: my cardio with. 945 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: You know, I gotta get you know, I gotta get right. 946 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, one day you can look like this, right, 947 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, tell you give me Oh I got. 948 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: Nah George my competition. Huh George being the gym trying 949 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: to show if he be bolsted. Look at that right here, 950 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: they're right here. You know. Hey, you know somebody asked 951 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: me when I get ready for a show. I said that, 952 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: ain't nobody to ask you that. Oh hey, you just 953 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 2: made that up because I've been watching you the whole time, 954 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: right right, Ain't nobody saying what word do you? 955 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 3: I said, wouldn't ask you that? 956 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: Who's stronger? 957 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 3: It all depends on what right. 958 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 2: Like, I can't. 959 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I can't flat dumb there, bitch, Hold. 960 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 5: On, I just watched your video, right, we did two 961 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 5: twenty five and you kept and you kept going up 962 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 5: and up. Yeah, for the life of god, I don't 963 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 5: know what it is about flat bench for me from 964 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 5: the chest from the chest here. 965 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 3: I can't get it off. I can't get it off. 966 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: I get up funder them damn dumbbells one twenty hundreds 967 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: with not not with ease. 968 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 3: But I can I can go, I can go. 969 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: I put two twenty five on the goddamn bench. 970 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 5: I get up under there, I need for one, I 971 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 5: need help taking it off, and then I need help 972 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 5: from the chess to right here this this area. 973 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: Right here is Yeah, that's your sticking point. 974 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: Man. 975 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 3: Well you gotta work with your try SEPs. And hell 976 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 3: that's try sep work. 977 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: When it comes to that dumbell bench. Strong as hell. 978 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like inclin I can do. I'm good at 979 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: in clents. I probably can do. I did what the 980 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: one thirty twos the mean class. I do one thirty 981 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: twos because I can flip those. But I probably two weeks. Yeah, 982 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: in two weeks, I'm gonna hit them. I'm gonna get 983 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 2: them one forty. I'm gonna get him. 984 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: Before he does. I know. 985 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: See he's gotta be slick. See I've been getting to 986 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: the gym early, and I've been parking where he can't 987 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: see me. So he coming there, he got his backpack, 988 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 2: whiz her. I walk into jail here, you're theater? What 989 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: you doing here about? Like? 990 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: What you what you're doing here? I'm working out. I 991 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't been ready to get ready to try you? Is 992 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 3: that what you get ready to do? 993 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: Hey? Where I found when them people? Man y'all be 994 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: having a camera where I get the camera people from. 995 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: You have to you have to hire somebody. 996 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need one of the man. I'd be watching people. 997 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 5: You know, they they record their workouts and just their 998 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 5: day to day life, even when they go places. You know, 999 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 5: they take nice pictures, and I'm like, maybe I need 1000 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 5: to start doing that. Man, Like how much a photographer cost? 1001 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 3: Though, it all depends on what you're trying. What you're 1002 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 3: trying to do. I mean, you're gonna need somebody to. 1003 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: Edit edit a picture or yeah, video, yeah, video, even 1004 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: picture you wanted, you wanted to edit it. You wanted 1005 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 2: a nice you know, you wanted smooth, you wanted to 1006 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: look like it's professionally dark, right, Yeah. 1007 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 5: Because everybody got to look at all the NFL players 1008 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 5: in you're taking pictures and you know when they going 1009 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 5: dates and nice places, you know, people catching. 1010 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: Them coming out the car and yeah, god damn, but 1011 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: I just not be scared of at it without George job, George, 1012 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: Jorye got it. 1013 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: Jeordan like the cat. 1014 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 2: When we're on the road, George like, Jordan go everywhere 1015 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 2: I go, be good with the camera. He got the camera, 1016 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: he set it up in the hotel room. When I 1017 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: go to functions behind the scene. So I was like, Okay, 1018 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: when I go do a commercial shoot, it's like anybody coming, Okay, 1019 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 2: I bring my makeup, I bring my personal makeup person. 1020 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: I bring Jordan because he's gonna get behind the scene footage. 1021 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: We'll collab once the commercial get ready to come out. 1022 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, shit, I'm finna, I'm finna do that. Man, 1023 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm finna. I'm finna. I'm finna. It's finna be a 1024 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: new oto. 1025 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 2: Man. 1026 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: Forget this man, new Oto. 1027 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: Anybody never man out there. Man, that's that's willing to 1028 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 5: travel with me. Listen, I got thirty thirty seven, thirty 1029 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 5: eleven job. Now, I don't want to hear no complaining. 1030 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 5: But forget that man. 1031 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 3: Well is he? 1032 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 2: That why I worked with Jordan. Jordan ain't got no kid, 1033 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 2: he ain't got no dogs, he ain't got no pets. 1034 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 3: So he can just call. 1035 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: He call. He hadn't call. He gotta go wherever I go, 1036 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 2: and I'm gone all the time. But he get a 1037 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 2: little work out of here. Hey boss, you need anything, Nah, 1038 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: you go ahead, right, So he go get his work 1039 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 2: out in. He find out what I got going on. 1040 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing going on. He get an hour, 1041 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 2: hour and a half go do his work out, get 1042 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: his work out in. Sometimes he goes to to use 1043 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: the hotel gym. Sometime there's a gym somewhere that he 1044 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 2: read about it, like, hey, I'm gonna go here. He 1045 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: trying to stay one step ahead of it. But I 1046 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: ain't gonna I'm a getting and trying to do that. 1047 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: Man, chat, y'all know anybody in Miami, man that you know? 1048 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 3: I just yeah, yeah, there are a lot of people 1049 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 3: in Miami. Yeah I know. 1050 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 5: But what if they try to hit me across the 1051 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 5: head like with price, Like if you if they come 1052 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 5: talking with some crazy numbers man. 1053 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 3: Like, Nah, it all depends on what you try. 1054 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 4: What you what you? 1055 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean. 1056 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 3: You getting them for an hour? You go hire somebody 1057 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: for an hour? How long are you going to hire them? 1058 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 2: Because that day rate is anywhere from between a thousand 1059 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 2: and two thousand and four day rate. 1060 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 3: We only probably need like an hour, go back, go 1061 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 3: back a thousand Who for a date? 1062 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 5: Now, I won't even come on uncle fly spirit man, 1063 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 5: But I'm saying, now you know I ain't paying those 1064 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 5: dolls and just for somebody taking no damn pigeons. 1065 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 2: Now, come on, but no, o Joe. First of all, 1066 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 2: you gotta pay for them, you understand, O Jo. They 1067 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 2: have jobs. When I when I used to have my 1068 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: when my massage therapist, excuse me, when she came to 1069 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: work on me, I booked her. So she was going 1070 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 2: for three, three, four days. All the clients that she 1071 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: would have had I bought them out. Oh shit, Yes, 1072 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: that's how it works. My massage therapist in Denver, when 1073 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 2: he came to work on me, I booked it. Whatever 1074 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: he Monday, he was off Monday, so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1075 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 2: I bought all of it. So he was doing eight 1076 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: massages to day. I bought all of them. So I 1077 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: had to pay somewhere between eight hundred and one thousand 1078 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: dollars a day a day. Yes, because that's what he 1079 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 2: would have got had he been working. 1080 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 3: You can't take me. 1081 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: You can't take me from my work and expect me 1082 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: to give you one hundred dollars massage when you've taken 1083 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 2: me away from one thousand dollars. 1084 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, listen, I'm trying to I'm trying to process this. 1085 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 5: I'm trying to process this like Okay, I'm trying to 1086 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 5: figure out where in my budget, because listen, I have 1087 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 5: a monthy budget. 1088 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 3: I ain't going to what are you trying to do? 1089 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: I just, you know, just I want to. I forgot 1090 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: what people call it. Like if you look at my Instagram, right, 1091 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: if you look at an instagram. 1092 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 5: Right, my Instagram is just straight nightcap nothing else. 1093 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 3: You So, in other words, you want you want some 1094 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 3: personal stuff on you? 1095 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know. 1096 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 5: You know what, I think I'm gonna leave my Instagram 1097 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 5: how it is right, my main page, ohoe all them father, 1098 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 5: that's straight that straight nightcap stuff. 1099 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna create another page. And I don't 1100 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: know the right word. 1101 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 5: And I want to, like I want to, you know, 1102 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 5: I want to create a like uh like content and 1103 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 5: and you know, yeah get dressed up nice and getting 1104 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 5: out the car of nice shoes like the NBA. 1105 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah you're doing and okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 1106 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 3: I want to do that. 1107 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 2: Man. Oh yo, but you're gonna but you have to understand, like, 1108 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: in order for somebody to do that, you hire them. 1109 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, how long you have to book them? 1110 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: Like is he gonna be your if he's gonna be 1111 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: a guy you use all the time. 1112 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it got to be all the time, because whatever 1113 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 5: I want to do is I want to be consistent. 1114 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 5: It feels like I'm behind the times a little bit. 1115 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 5: Uh everybody doing it, So I think I want to 1116 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 5: catch up with times as far as aesthetics are concerned. 1117 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm a lazy dresser. I'm a lazy dresser. 1118 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 5: So maybe maybe I could hire me a little stylist 1119 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 5: or something, you know, and and and just them a 1120 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 5: routine and some of the things I'm not used to 1121 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 5: normally doing. 1122 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: Maybe get out the box a little bit, try something 1123 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: different for a change. 1124 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 5: No clothes on, like I might, I might take your 1125 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 5: clothes back, but you know, just you know, get some 1126 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 5: high end stuff. 1127 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 2: Have I have. 1128 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: What you call the people that pull clothes, what. 1129 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 3: You call them a stylist? 1130 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get me a stylist, you know, having 1131 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 5: pulled me something, you know, put some on nice, go 1132 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 5: to dinner, boom cats catch me coming out of. 1133 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: The truck, you know, I pose and pre like I'm 1134 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: not looking like. 1135 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 4: You know, stuff like that. 1136 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: I just I just I just need to I need 1137 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: to do something new, man, because I'm stuck over. 1138 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,959 Speaker 3: So you look at the vlag you're looking for a person. 1139 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean, or you could. 1140 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you could use a felthy stick and you 1141 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: could get a POV your personal point of view. Nah. 1142 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 5: Nah, I wanted to be professional because people. Hey, you 1143 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 5: ever see some people Instagram? It looked like they fucking 1144 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 5: models and ship? Yeah, like, that's that's what I want. 1145 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 5: I want some nice like I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. 1146 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 3: I just but if you're not trying to monetize it, 1147 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 3: So why are you doing it? You can? 1148 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: How the hell am I monetize it? I ain't no model. 1149 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: I just I just want. 1150 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 5: I like the curation of people's igs. It just looks 1151 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 5: dope sometimes. 1152 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 2: So are you gonna be an influencer? Are you gonna 1153 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: be wearing other people's clothes? I mean what you're trying 1154 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: to do? 1155 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: Hey, you think I could be an influencer? 1156 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1157 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: But what what would be my what? What what would 1158 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: my content be? 1159 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 3: Though? The stuff that they send to you? I mean, 1160 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: you see fashion over men. 1161 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 2: You see a lot of these women wear fashion over 1162 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 2: You can do fashion over men, you can do different things. 1163 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I can get it. Ship. 1164 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: You think I get to deal with fashion over men? 1165 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could all right, oh Joe, we got to 1166 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 2: check this out. We got the we got the Olympic 1167 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: gold medals in speed climbing joining us. Uh he said 1168 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 2: the time a four seconds point seven four four point 1169 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: seven fourth seconds and here he is joining us live 1170 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 2: Sam Watson, Sam, how you doing bro? 1171 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 1172 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Can 1173 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 3: you hear us? 1174 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: We can hear you. 1175 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, doing great today. 1176 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on. 1177 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 3: No, thanks for coming on. O Joe. 1178 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 2: Before you go, let me ask you this. Obviously you're 1179 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: going you go to the Olympics and you're trying to 1180 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 2: win the gold medal. 1181 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 3: Did you think it was. 1182 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 2: Gonna take a world record in order for you to 1183 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 2: win the goal? Or you didn't really care the time? 1184 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: You like, I want the gold medal and if it 1185 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 2: takes a goal, if it takes a world record, because 1186 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, you had just set the world 1187 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: record a couple of weeks before going to parents, are 1188 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 2: not correct? 1189 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I set the world record twice. 1190 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 6: Actually I said it once and broke my own one 1191 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 6: in April at a compliment with China. Then I went 1192 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 6: to the qualification elimination heat and broke Uh so I 1193 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 6: lost it for fourteen minutes to another athlete and then 1194 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 6: got it back and then so speed climbing is a 1195 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 6: tournament format, So then I lost in the final round, 1196 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 6: got sense of the bronze medal match, and then you know, 1197 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 6: after that, you kind of got nothing to lose, You're 1198 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 6: kind of mad. So then I broke my own road 1199 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 6: record to get the bronze medal. 1200 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. 1201 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 5: Listen, you grew up in the South Lake, right, yeah, 1202 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 5: so I'm curious. I always like to go back. I 1203 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 5: always like to go back and get a better understanding 1204 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 5: on where the passion and love for climbing came from, 1205 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 5: especially speed climbing. 1206 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 6: So I just personally loved the idea of improvement and 1207 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 6: the idea of being on the same wall, the same 1208 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 6: track every time, and you can be on the same 1209 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 6: wall and training as all these competitions across the world, 1210 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 6: so lowering your time through all that, and I met 1211 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 6: a beautiful people, beautiful community in DFW, and that really 1212 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 6: brought me up. 1213 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. 1214 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, you got eliminated from gold medal competition, and you 1215 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: set the world record in the bronze medal match is there? 1216 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 2: Is it bittersweet because obviously you went there to win 1217 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 2: the gold medal. Now I think the console prize for 1218 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 2: setting a world record and taking fifty thousand off a nightcap, 1219 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 2: you had to feel pretty good about that. 1220 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 3: But were you kind of disappointed in your performance? 1221 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 6: Sale, Yeah, there's a lot of emotions. Obviously you have 1222 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 6: this goal of this is the only thing I want. 1223 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 6: I'm trying so hard to get an Olympic gold medal. 1224 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 6: But to be quite honest, I think I represented my 1225 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 6: country well and I respect the other two athletes that 1226 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 6: podium ahead of me, and I like the fact that 1227 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 6: I had this goal for so long and now I 1228 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 6: have four more years to keep that the same. I 1229 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 6: get to go to LA twenty twenty eight, compete in 1230 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 6: front of my home crowd when I'm a bit older 1231 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 6: and more experienced, and then hopefully competitions wise, I can 1232 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 6: get a big resume of things, keep my world record, 1233 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 6: push it down, and then be a gold medal favorite 1234 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 6: and finally kind of complete that resume in La. 1235 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: Ye I like it. 1236 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 5: Listen as someone that also climbs, not not walls, listen 1237 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 5: mango trees. I don't know if you would know what 1238 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 5: mango trees are. I used to climb the fence. I 1239 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 5: usually break into the pool when I wasn't supposed to 1240 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 5: be there in the summer as a low kid growing up, 1241 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 5: that is really considered climbing. But for you speak climbing, 1242 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 5: it's it's demanding, not just physically and mentally. How do 1243 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 5: you handle the pressures right before it's time to climb, 1244 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 5: especially when you have to compete against someone and you're 1245 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 5: competing against time. 1246 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Is it difficult? 1247 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'd say speed climbing is the lowest margin 1248 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 6: of error sport in the entire Olympic Games. It is 1249 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 6: thirty movements at max speed and if you mess up one, 1250 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 6: you're kind of screwed. So I mean you got to 1251 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 6: embrace the pressure. Tell any other eighteen year old that 1252 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 6: they have to compete in this sport at the on 1253 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 6: the biggest stage, competing for your country and glory. And 1254 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 6: then I was also thinking about the gold medal count overall. 1255 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 6: Thankfully we did one in the tie breaker, but kind 1256 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 6: of chip on my shoulder that we didn't win overall. 1257 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 6: So I mean, you have this stress and you have 1258 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 6: this pressure, and obviously you have to embrace it. 1259 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 3: And not everyone can. Sam, How did you get into rock? 1260 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 3: How did you get into speed climbing? 1261 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 2: Uh? 1262 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 6: So I got into climbing because I would climb walls 1263 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 6: and I climb these brick places around my house, and 1264 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 6: my parents were like, we want to support you, but 1265 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 6: you're gonna that's pretty dangerous. So they took me into 1266 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 6: the climbing gym and I met a great community in 1267 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 6: dft W and that's kind of how I got into it, 1268 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 6: competition climbing and then eventually speed as well. 1269 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 3: Right, so how long will you go ahead? Ojoe? 1270 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 5: Okay, listen when you talk about speed, right, and when 1271 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 5: it comes to climbing, how do you improve your reaction 1272 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 5: time and explosiveness? Like I know how to do it 1273 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 5: when it comes to sports, you know, and the things 1274 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 5: you have to do in the weight room, but how 1275 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 5: do you improve your reaction time and explosiveness when it 1276 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 5: comes to climbing. 1277 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: That's that's really interesting. 1278 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's a it's pretty similar in a lot 1279 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 6: of ways to track as well. So I'm in the 1280 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 6: gym probably three to four times a week, and then 1281 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 6: I'm on the wall probably four to five times a week. 1282 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 6: So you're in the gym doing some not fully ply 1283 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 6: metric but pretty like decent high effort motions, big jumps. 1284 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 6: I can dunk a basketball on only five eleven, but 1285 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 6: I can. I can do it, and like wow, stuff 1286 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,919 Speaker 6: like that get you exploding on the wall, both upper 1287 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 6: body and lower body. 1288 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 2: I like that, but it definitely works better for rock 1289 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 2: for speed climbing, the lighter body weight you are, but 1290 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 2: the stronger. 1291 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 6: You are am I correct, typically the leaner. So think 1292 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 6: about like the archetypes. Think about like the jam Morant 1293 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 6: type builds where ye're like very lean and you can 1294 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 6: jump really high. So I would say that the leaner 1295 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 6: rather than the just overall lighter you are. 1296 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 3: Is this the quickst you've ever won fifty grand? 1297 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say so. 1298 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 5: I'd say, so, hey, before race, do you have any 1299 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 5: pre race rituals? Do you have any superstitions? Or you 1300 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 5: just go out there and have fun and just climb 1301 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 5: as fast as you can. 1302 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1303 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 6: So, since the walls the same every time, what I 1304 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 6: do is I kick the wall and I all hit 1305 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 6: the wall, and then I just said every time. After that, 1306 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 6: I have twenty seconds probably between that time where I 1307 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 6: set up the buzzer on the foot and when I go, 1308 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 6: I've about twenty seconds and not twenty seconds. Regardless of that, 1309 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 6: if it's in practice or if it's at the Olympic Games, 1310 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 6: I can do the same thing every time. 1311 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: That's dope, man. 1312 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 2: So the walls, no matter what the competition, all the 1313 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 2: walls are exactly the same. 1314 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's some there's a couple of details, like 1315 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 6: obviously it's hard to what's called the molligation where you 1316 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 6: make it the same every time to certify a world record. 1317 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: But generally, yes, I got I gotta do that. I 1318 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: gotta do that. 1319 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 3: You're you. I will. 1320 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 6: I will gladly give both of you guys a climbing lesson. 1321 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I think I want to do it. 1322 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 5: So what I've done, all the all the Olympians that 1323 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 5: we've had on track swimmers, I challenge everybody somewhat. This 1324 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 5: could almost be a series. Oh listen, oh Joe versus everybody. 1325 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 5: Even though you guys are at what you do and 1326 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 5: your respect the crafts, I do respect it, but I 1327 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 5: want to compete. I want to race against you in 1328 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 5: speed climb and see how bad I lose or maybe 1329 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 5: I can win. 1330 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 6: No, no, no, So okay, if you set up, you 1331 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 6: come out I'll in Salt Lake City. Do you want 1332 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 6: to come out there? 1333 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Right? 1334 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 6: I think you guys are he guys in l A too. 1335 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 6: There's a there's a wall in l As. I'm in Miami, Miami. Okay, 1336 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 6: I'm not sure about that, but we we can find 1337 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 6: a place right right, and we can put you on 1338 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 6: the speed wall. We can do we give you a 1339 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 6: road to sub ten seconds and that would be that 1340 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 6: would be super impressive. 1341 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: Ten seconds. Ten seconds, Yeah, that's long I got. 1342 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure. All right, Okay, we'll give you. We'll give 1343 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 3: you nine or eight. I mean, you can just keep going, 1344 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: you can keep going. Okay, camera crew, Okay, Sam, do 1345 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 3: you do you free climb? 1346 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 1347 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 6: No, No, unfortunately my parents disapprove. Can't be doing that 1348 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 6: too dangerous. 1349 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 3: I got, I got a couple. 1350 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 6: So the guy who did that, Alex Donald, the free 1351 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 6: solo is a we want to do not just speed 1352 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 6: climbing on the on the regular competition wall, but I 1353 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 6: want to do big wall speed climbing. So I'm trying 1354 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 6: to race up like the route he climbed to the 1355 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 6: nose in Yssemi Valley, Like I want to try to 1356 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 6: do that under two hours. 1357 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 3: So that's a. 1358 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 6: That's another ambition I got. 1359 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 3: I ste may I mean, but. 1360 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 2: So what's the biggest difference obviously speed without with speed 1361 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 2: not being a factor, what is the major difference between 1362 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 2: climbing wall climbing and say free climbing. 1363 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 6: So, like what I do speed clumbing is just on 1364 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 6: your goal is just to compete and do it faster, 1365 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 6: and you're really gracing against the mental aspect and the 1366 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 6: stress that I talked about. And then like plumbing on 1367 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 6: rock is such a different experience and I still do 1368 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 6: love doing that so much. Where you're you're in nature, 1369 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 6: you're on a route and it's typically harder and you're 1370 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 6: doing it smaller, so the holds what you grab onto 1371 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,479 Speaker 6: are smaller, and the for both your hands and feet, 1372 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 6: so you have to grip them pretty hard and all that. 1373 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. 1374 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 2: Well, Sam, thank you for taking time. I know you 1375 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 2: were busy. Thank you for getting back. Congratulations on your 1376 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 2: bronze medal. We got you covered. I think you've already 1377 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 2: received your consolation prize from Nightcap. Thank you again for 1378 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 2: coming on. We greatly appreciated with pride. You're representing the 1379 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 2: country extremely well. Best of luck in twenty eight and 1380 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 2: We'll see you down the road, all right. 1381 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: See you guys. 1382 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 6: Then had me up climb, I'll fall through. 1383 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 3: I got you, babe, all right, see you guys. 1384 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 6: Thank you all right man, how we go with you too. 1385 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: The volume