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Speaker 1: little bit? Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: listening to fishing podcast that lie to you by telling

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Speaker 1: Joe Surmelie. I'm Miles Nulty, and thankfully, I've actually given

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Speaker 1: guide influencer podcast hosting celebrity Hank freaking Patterson. And I

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Speaker 1: pro staffer, World Around fly fishing expert and guide. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm here today with a fishing report for anybody planning

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Speaker 1: too often. But still I have a sauce spot for

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Speaker 1: this book, and it turns out I'm not alone. It's

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Speaker 1: I miss that one man. That book sounds like it's

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Speaker 1: At first, I was embarrassed, I must admit. Listener Glenn

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Speaker 1: AT's at Sam's Club, I mean, it is what it is.

422
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: It's not my jam. Once you taste, in my opinion,

423
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: a salmon out of salt water from Alaska specifically, like

424
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: before it ever hit the rivers, you'll never you'll never

425
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: look back. Yep, you will, just you know. But I'm

426
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: not a big trout die anyway. But you know, Okay,

427
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: So man, I'm trying to think of a good good

428
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: segue here. I don't have one because I'm going in

429
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: a way different direction farm salmon. So uh, here's here's

430
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: one of those stories, um where I think we we

431
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: stretched the parameters of fishing, which we're allowed to do

432
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: here because this is our show and we can do

433
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: whatever we want. Um. This one is about magnet fishing.

434
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: You know what that is? What is magnet? I have

435
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: no idea what this is? What is it? No? No, no,

436
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: that's that's something they do over in Europe. I think

437
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: over here you just tie a big magnet off to

438
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: a rope and throw it in water and drag it

439
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 1: around and try and find stuff. So it's exactly what

440
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: it sounds like. It's like the subsurface version of those

441
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 1: people with the metal detectors on the beach. It's like

442
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: they've moved out into the water. Yeah well they yeah,

443
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: or these are people who can't afford a metal detector

444
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: but they can buy a magnet. And quick aside, before

445
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: I dive into this, um, I dabble though very lightly,

446
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: in magnet fishing, which you may not have known, and

447
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: now you do. Um And and just to save face

448
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: because it's kind of a dorky hobby, this is purely

449
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a COVID slash quarantine related thing. Okay. It started with

450
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: extra time to sit around and watch YouTube and I

451
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: got sucked in by this dude that he goes by

452
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: the fissure and he's this spacstick cat from somewhere in

453
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: the Midwest, and he just goes nuts every time. He's

454
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: always on bridges, and he's finding all kinds of weird

455
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: stuff and and every time you find something, he's like,

456
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: what the heck is this guy's what is that thing? Right?

457
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: And I got sucked in by this stuff on on YouTube?

458
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: And then if you factor in what felt like license

459
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to buy anything you wanted on Amazon during quarantine to

460
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: make yourself feel better, like eating ice cream after you

461
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: just got dumped, right, that that is why I now

462
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: own some magnet fishing equipment. Okay, So they're like this

463
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: was this was like cathartic almost, Okay. I thought, like,

464
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm not really traveling. I can't go junking because of COVID,

465
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: So this makes sense. And uh, so far a hundred

466
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: and thirty dollar investment has found me two screws, five

467
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: nuts in a bicycle chain. That is what I've gotten

468
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: out of this. Um. I kind of lost I kind

469
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: of lost the fire for it and realized that if

470
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I had free time to magnet fish, I should probably

471
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: just fish fish, which is also safer because this story

472
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: comes to us from Fox six Milwaukee headline. Person magnet

473
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: fishing in beaver Dam recovers grenade that was probably live.

474
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: What so, Yeah, did you did you just say grenade?

475
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Make it throw in war? Yes, that you would throw

476
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: in war, hopefully at the people fighting you. It wasn't

477
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: like a weird you know, foxhole accident or something. Uh yeah,

478
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: but beaver Dam police say a person who was magnet

479
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: fishing near a dam on Madison Street. It might have

480
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: been this dude, he's always like out in public in

481
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: the middle of a city recovered a grenade that was

482
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: later determined to be real and potentially potentially quote live.

483
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: A Facebook post from the beaver Dam Department said contact

484
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: was aid with the Dane County Bomb Squad to discuss

485
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: the proper procedure to dispose of the grenade. After seeing

486
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: photos of the grenade and speaking with the beaver Dam

487
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: Police Department supervisors, they determined that they would send a

488
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: team out to assist in the disposal of the grenade.

489
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: Due to the degradation of the grenade from being in

490
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: the water for quite some time, the bomb squad was

491
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: unable to confirm if it was actually live without further testing,

492
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: but they felt it was necessary, I would hope, so

493
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: to take precautions for everyone's safety, and they closed the

494
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 1: bridge down for two hours while they got rid of

495
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: this grenade in Wisconsin. I have a few thoughts on this, Okay,

496
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm kind of speechless other than trying to put myself

497
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: in the in the shoes of this magnet fisherman bringing

498
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: up like, well, this is this is the thing, and

499
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: this is this is why, like I'm a loser fish

500
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: in the magnet fishing world because you realize later that

501
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: you watch these magnet fishing things and they're only showing

502
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: you when they a fine cool shit. They don't show

503
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: you the nine hours in four days where they found

504
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: two screws, five nuts in one bicycle chain. Like I

505
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: have right, but I do. I do have a couple

506
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: of thoughts on this, right So to start, this is frightening.

507
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: And while they don't know, they haven't said whether it

508
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: was or was not a live grenade, But if it was,

509
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: where did that come from? So that's mitually number one?

510
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: How is there a live grenade? But I do have

511
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: another theory because I, like you are a child of

512
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: the late eighties and early nineties, so hear me out

513
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: on this. When I was growing up, there was an

514
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Army Navy surplus store in the Franklin Mills Mall in

515
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Philadelphia called I Goldberg's, and you could buy all the

516
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: grenades you wanted in there. They were literally bins full

517
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: of grenades. Now, of course they weren't live. The holes

518
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: were drilled out, so they were disabled and could never

519
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: be made live. But they were real Vietnam air grenades

520
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: with the clip and the pin and the hole works,

521
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: and they were like three bucks a pop, and I

522
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: could We'll see them in the huge crates in that store,

523
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: and I had at least half a dozen. Guarantee. There

524
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: are still some kicking around at my mom's house. My

525
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: dad had one of those, and I used to play

526
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: with it all the time, so I know exactly what

527
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about. It was clearly not live, no, no,

528
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: no no. But so those grenades would be drilled out,

529
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: and they know they have a hole at the center.

530
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: But you figure, if this thing is sitting there for

531
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: years and it's all full of sludge and muck and

532
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: that hole is filled in, you wouldn't know. So I

533
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: mean I don't know, man. Of course, that was back

534
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: in the like like what I consider the last days

535
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: of when like kids were men, you know what I mean.

536
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: Like we'd be at the mom we'd be at the

537
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: mom my mom would be like, oh, honey, didn't you

538
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: tell me you needed more grenades? You know, if you're

539
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: good this year, maybe Sandon will put a few more

540
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: grenades in your stocking. You know. It was back in

541
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: the day when toys r us had to sign pointing

542
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: to the arsenal aisle. You know, you remember that with

543
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: the cobras on the grips, not the dragons, you know, yeah, like, yeah, okay,

544
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have bb gun war, only one pump

545
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: and close your eyes when they're shooting at your face. Chunk, chunk, chunk,

546
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: one pump my ass fifteen at least break a little skin.

547
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: But those are those were good time. So that's what

548
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: popped into my head. Maybe it's maybe it wasn't a

549
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: live grenade. Maybe it's just a relic from an era

550
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that's not the COVID era when kids still went outside

551
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: and and and played army. And for the record, once

552
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: I get my magnet fishing game dialed in, I'm gonna

553
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: find a whole grenade launcher like the one Pasha used

554
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: in Predator Mark my words, come on out. We'll do.

555
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: We'll magnet fish together. It'll be fun. Oh that sounds terrible.

556
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather go real fishing. But I'll say this, if

557
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: anybody out there finds out like before we do, if

558
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: it you know, they determine if it was live or not,

559
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: let us know, give us an update because we want

560
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: to know. Um, I'm gonna kind of stick with with

561
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: lawlessness on the water for for the last piece here.

562
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I like it. Last last week, two Louisiana men one

563
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: local bass fishing tournament, but their glory was quickly tarnished

564
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: after they were arrested for fishing contest fraud. Alright now, now,

565
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: cheating and bass tournaments is nothing new. We've covered it

566
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Meteor just like every other fishing media outlets. So the

567
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: cheating part is not what caught my eye. That's just

568
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: standard protocol. It's the arrest part. These guys are facing

569
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: up to three thousand dollars in fines and a year

570
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: in jail because they fished outside of the tournament boundaries.

571
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: They didn't even leave the lake, they just left the boundaries.

572
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: And this is not like one of those big national

573
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: b ass Elite Series tournaments. We're talking about a local

574
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: club tournament. They take their fishing tournaments seriously down there,

575
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: and so they got me wondering about penal codes related

576
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: to fishing tournaments. And apparently Louisiana is not the only

577
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: state where cheating in a fishing tournament can get you

578
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: locked up. So this is like one of those weird

579
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: old laws thing you didn't know existed anymore, Like you

580
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: can't ride a horse town on Sunday. It's not old, right,

581
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Like this is actually relatively recent. Getting caught breaking tournament rules,

582
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: like fishing tournament rules in Texas is considered either a

583
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: Class A misdemeanor or a third degree felony, depending on

584
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: the size of the prize at stake. And no, it's

585
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: not one of those old like laws just takes up

586
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: space on the pedo coade nobody knows about. This has

587
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: been enforced several times just in the last couple of

588
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: years in the lone Star state. And side note, but

589
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: weird one Texas tournament anglers seem to be cutters. They

590
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: have a habit of tail chopping. In one case, a

591
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: guy named Terry Keith Long was fishing good tournament on

592
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Lake Fork and and on Lake Fork, fish between sixteen

593
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: and twenty four inches must be immediately released back in

594
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: the lake, and they don't count for points. So Terry

595
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: he catches himself like a sixteen and a half inch

596
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: or and he decides, you know, maybe I'll just trim.

597
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll just take a half inch off with some scissors

598
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: and call it good and no one's gonna notice. But

599
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: hold on, wait, yeah, it gets weirder. Another case involved

600
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: a kayak tournament and since kayaks don't have live wells,

601
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: competitors take pictures of their fish on approved measuring boards

602
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: and then let them go. Well, this guy, Brent Taylor,

603
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: he must have felt like he needed a couple extra

604
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: inches to stay competitive. So what do he decided to do?

605
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Was he cut the whole tail off of a bass,

606
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: moved it a few inches down the ruler, and put

607
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: his hand over the missing section as if you were

608
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: just kind of holding the fish in place so it

609
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: didn't flop around on the measuring board. Mr. Sneaky man,

610
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: But but he's you kind of sneaky. But guess where

611
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: he screwed up? He kept the tail. They found the

612
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: tail in his kayak, and that was how they busted.

613
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a little Darwin. It's a little Darwin

614
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: over and and all these guys were arrested and charged

615
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: under the Fraud in Fishing Tournaments legal Code. Uh So,

616
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: from what I could dig up, only Texas and Louisiana

617
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: have actual laws about fishing tournament fraud. But to be

618
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: to be clear here, I couldn't like find a database

619
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: about laws pertaining the fishing tournaments. So any of you

620
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: out there, if you know of other states that have

621
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: actual statutes on the books about cheating and fishing tournaments,

622
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: please let us know, because I'm genuinely interested in how

623
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: common those are. Like, I want to know how many

624
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: states had to write laws about fishing tournament cheaters. See,

625
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I had no idea, man, I mean it kind of

626
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: it kind of fits like with the good old boys

627
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: in the South, Like you know, you don't you don't

628
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: mess with a fishing tournament down there, But I don't.

629
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: I fished one two tournaments in my entire life. One

630
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: was pure fun and bragging rights. One had money on

631
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: the line. I regretted it. So I'm not really into

632
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: tournament fishing, so I wouldn't have known these things. But um,

633
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so the guys who who they were trying

634
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: to who got arrested, were they being jerks about that

635
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: or was it like, oh hey man, sorry, I didn't

636
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: know that we were crossing the line. Like what like

637
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: is it like drunk driving? Yeah? Is it like drunk

638
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: driving where it's like no questions asked, like you did

639
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: this and you're going down. You know. I couldn't find

640
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: that kind of in depth coverage. No one interviewed them

641
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: about their their intentions. But I'm gonna guess that they

642
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: clearly knew the rules, they clearly broke them, and they

643
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: won the tournament. People were passed, So I think I

644
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: think they knew what they weren't supposed to do and

645
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: they did it knowingly. Otherwise, you know, it was an

646
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: honest mistake. They would have stripped I assumed they would

647
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: have stripped him of the wind, but that would have

648
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: been the end. But no, they called authorities and these

649
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: guys might go to jail for a year. See, and

650
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna you could end up in jail

651
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: over a green bass. This is why I say fish

652
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: for snakeheads people. Okay, there's no there's no one, no

653
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: laws and snakeheads. You can do whatever you want, you know,

654
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: don't don't you You killed ten snakeheads. Wherever you want,

655
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: they'll throw you a parade around here. All right, it's

656
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: time for Phil to weigh in and crown this week's champion. Phil.

657
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know who brought the goods? Give

658
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: it up? And uh and and then we're going straight

659
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: from the front page news the classifieds as we dig

660
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: into the sale bin Miles. I thought about making a

661
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: loser fish joke here, but that would have been too obvious.

662
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you could not compete with Joe's tomato

663
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: tuna and possibly but probably not, live grenades. Our winner

664
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: this week again is Joe Surmelie Miles. That makes you

665
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: over two. I'm so sorry. I do not make the rules. Um,

666
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: actually I do, but just remember there are no small

667
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: fish news stories, only small fish news podcast hosts, which

668
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: you are not because you are a rather tall man.

669
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Please don't beat me up. Why did you put the

670
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: hand to pay You don't know what I'm getting, man,

671
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: What you didn't have to be so hurtful with me,

672
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: so angry, it seems like people love to buy and

673
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: sell used crap on the internet, and you know, fishing

674
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: gear is no exception. In this segment, we profile some

675
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: fishing related item we found for sale online. And just

676
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: like in all craigslis crawling, it is only interesting because

677
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: it's terrible. Today's there's no exception. Okay. This one comes

678
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: to us from let go twenty four dollars and the

679
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: title of the post is just fishing weights. Now the

680
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: magic of this better good fishing waits for bucks. The

681
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: h the long description is the clincher here, But before

682
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: we get to that, we just have to describe what

683
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: we're looking at. So we have a case here, a long,

684
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: skinny case with a handle and a hang tag for

685
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: a pegboard on one end. And this was obviously repurposed.

686
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't I can't put my finger on exactly what

687
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: this case was originally made for. I don't know if

688
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts there. I'm gonna guess that it

689
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: was originally made for fasteners of some kind, bolts and nuts,

690
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: something like a really really cheap tiny toolbox. Okay, all right,

691
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I like that. And it is absolutely beat to yet, okay,

692
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: and in it in the few compartments. We have a

693
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: bunch of clearly used, like pre made steel leader saltwater

694
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: hook rings all coiled up. Yeah, that looked like they

695
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: would take you at least an hour to disentangle them all. Correct.

696
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: There are exactly five clearly used eight ounce bank sinkers,

697
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: one of which has a little piece of what looks

698
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: like four pound test like a little bit clipment, just

699
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: got a little little pigtail. And there's there's one, there's

700
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: one completely empty container, and then and there's also two

701
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: croppy sized micro clearly use curly tail grubs, one shark

702
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: trus one will call root beer. Uh. And this is

703
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: twenty four dollars. That's what this will cost you. But

704
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: here's the description. I'm gonna read it verbatim, but before

705
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: you get there, Joe, I have to I just have

706
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: to jump in. I'm sorry to cut you off, but

707
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: what's for me? What's such a head scratcher on this is?

708
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I want to know whose fishing kit this was and

709
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: what they were fishing for? In what circumstance do you

710
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: need steal leaders, eight ounce bank waits, croppy curly tail jigs,

711
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: and no hooks. Yeah, none of these, none of these

712
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: things really so incongruous. How did these things wind up

713
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: in a box together? None of it makes any sense

714
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: to me? Well, I don't have the answer to that

715
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: that we did correspond with this seller. We'll get to

716
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: that in a minute. Okay, because this description. Okay, so

717
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: five pieces of eight ounce weights equal sign seventy five

718
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: dollars through one hundred bucks. So that right out of

719
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: the gate is uh that math math? I don't know

720
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: where we're getting that. Two hooks and fishing line and

721
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: to fake worms for fishing. Now here we go. Come

722
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: with the case to you hang it, lay it down,

723
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: or stand it up for you own convenience. Enjoy your

724
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: summer with this kit, im and get it before someone

725
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: beat you to it. That is the description of this product.

726
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: Summer with this kit, you won't have any hooks, but

727
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: boy can get those crappy jigs to the bottom fast.

728
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: So I did the jerky thing and I wrote, Hello,

729
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: interesting kit. Do you think i'd be able to use

730
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: these items for trout? I'm just starting to get into

731
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: trout fishing in your area. Okay, Now you just heard

732
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: the grammar in the description, and here's what I got

733
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: back in four minutes. Usually a rod and reel well

734
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: suited for a mainline in the four to eight pound

735
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: test range will serve you well for trout fishing. And

736
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: also we'll get the job done for other popular freshwater

737
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: species such as bass and panfish. In perfect grammar. And

738
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I just cut and paste it into my search box.

739
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: And it was straight out of a Google article called

740
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: trout fishing basis. Yeah, so he just he just he

741
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: just cut that right out of a Google answer. I

742
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: can I give credit for that. That was actually pretty clever.

743
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: I was like, that was slick. That was slick. You're

744
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: you're dancing around. You have no idea, but good, good move,

745
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: no doubt. Followed up by to each their own th

746
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: h E R E you have to find what weights

747
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: you like best. Followed up with However, for this little

748
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: amount of money I'm asking for the kid, it's a

749
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: win win for you regardless. R E g U A

750
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: R D L E S S regards. Ye got it,

751
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: he sounded it out. He sounded it out. So um

752
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: fishing kit twenty four bucks. Enjoy, enjoy your summer, my friends,

753
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: save a little cash. I mean, let's be honest, those

754
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: eight stinkers are no more than seventy cents apiece, not seventy.

755
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: But the thing is that kind of markup, that's that's

756
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: the kind of thing you usually only find in fly

757
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: fishing gear, you know what I mean. Like, And that's

758
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: that's an unfortunate truth because it gives fly fishing a

759
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: bad rap. But the truth is that fly fishing doesn't

760
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: have to be that much more expensive than conventional fishing.

761
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: And in this week's tackle hack, our good friend Tim

762
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Romano is gonna tell you how you can save yourself

763
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: some cash on fly floating. I'm getting hats coming from

764
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: inside the city like the flood at Tim Romano. How

765
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: you doing, buddy, I'm doing okay. It's kind of a loaded,

766
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: loaded question these days, but I'm okay. These days it

767
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: sure is. But we're not gonna think about all that

768
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: bad stuff. We're gonna think about the good times ahead.

769
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: And you're gonna drop some knowledge on us, uh, specifically

770
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: for the dry fly fisherman. You've got a hell of

771
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: a trick here, tell tell us all about it. Yeah,

772
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a trick. It's um basically, all those

773
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: little fancy dry fly floatings you spend I don't know

774
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: five tens on you can buy those and they're great

775
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: and they work really well, or you can google up

776
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: fletching powder, which I didn't even know what that was

777
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: because I'm not an archery guy. I'm sure some of

778
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: your listeners will know exactly what I'm talking about, but um,

779
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: it comes in quantities like ten fifteen times what you

780
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: can buy at the fly shop for dry shake, and

781
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: it's basically the exact same thing. Yeah, I believe you

782
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: use this stuff. You put it on your fletching to

783
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: keep them dry so they don't get water logged, like

784
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: if you're out in the rain, right right, Yeah, exactly.

785
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: And you're saying that's a good substitute for like a

786
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: frog's fannie or something like that. Yeah, it doesn't. I mean,

787
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about that. They're all slightly different, right,

788
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: but they're basically just a descent powder. What I've the

789
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: little bit of research I've done, I think it's actually

790
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: called hydrophobic food. You telling me how to pronounce this

791
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: f you m eat food, hydrophobic food food silica. It

792
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: was perfect. So yeah, it's you just have way larger

793
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: quantities and it's you know, literally like one tenth of

794
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: the cost. So you just refill your empty frogs, fanny

795
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: or whatever with that stuff. Yeah, like whatever container you

796
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: like using, Um, keep it. I will say it's supposedly

797
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: non toxic, but you definitely don't want to breathe that crap.

798
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: Don't blow a line of it, correct, Um, I mean

799
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: you can try. I didn't tell you to do that, though.

800
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: What I do sometimes instead of pouring it from bottle

801
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: to bottle, which can be really messy, I would suggest

802
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: putting it in like a zip block or a thin

803
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: plastic bag, so you can basically put the corner of

804
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: that bag in and then just kind of tap it

805
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: in slowly, because if you try to pour from bottle

806
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: to bottle, that's a complete mess. And generally speaking, when

807
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: you're fishing alone, do you shake it hard or medium

808
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: or just a little bit depends on the day. Salt dude,

809
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: that's a that's a legitimately good hack, right, And yeah,

810
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: I know the last time I went and bought a

811
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: bottle of that fancy Japanese dry shake, I'm pretty sure

812
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I came up short on rent the next month. That

813
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: stuff is expensive, man, I know, I know. The thing

814
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: is it's anything right, anything that says fly fishing on it.

815
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: You can at least double the price, you know what

816
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I can get a spool of flora

817
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: carbon too, spool of spinning reel pretty cheap, but then

818
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: you get a miniature tippet spool of the ship at

819
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: the fly shop, it's like a four hundred mark up.

820
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: And this is a problem. This is a I believe,

821
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe. Smarter people call this a barrier

822
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: to entry. Yeah it is, it is, and it's part

823
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: of what gives fly fishing a bad rap, it really is,

824
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: because everyone's like, oh, what kind of chump would spend

825
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: that much money online? And I don't know, by the

826
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: regular stuff, by the pa line. That's what I always do. Yep,

827
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: me too. But I'm here to tell you all of

828
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: you that you don't actually have to be rich or

829
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: be a sucker to get into the long rod game.

830
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: It's a ton of fun and you don't need to

831
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: drop two grand to do it. We are we're gonna

832
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: stick with the steam that every Man's fly fishing theme

833
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: to close out this week's show with our end of

834
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: the line segment. Well it's not loud enough, rubber Legs Pats,

835
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Rubbie pickle jimmy legs. No matter what you call it,

836
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the Pats rubber legs is one of the greatest fly

837
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: patterns ever conceived. I call it a turd for reasons

838
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: that are obvious if you've ever seen one, But the

839
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: pattern is actually named after its inventor, Pat Bennett and

840
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: the assortment of splade jigglie rubber legs that hang off

841
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: of it. Right now, all the Western trout guys out

842
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: there like du everybody even knows about the turd fly?

843
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: Bro Well, no, everybody you hang out with knows about

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Speaker 1: turd flies. But I'm willing to bet that at least

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Speaker 1: half of the people listening to this have no idea

846
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And I'm pretty sure you guys

847
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: don't know the history of that fly you love so much.

848
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: So listen up. Imagine a Toddler's crayon drawing of a

849
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: caterpillar with a hook hanging out of the ass, and

850
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Speaker 1: you'll have some idea of what a Pats rubber legs

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00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: looks like. It's a long shank took somewhere around a

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00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: size four, wrapped with fuzzy brown or black or alive

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00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: shanil with six or eight or ten or however man

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00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: you feel like putting on their little rubber legs dangling

855
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: around the edges. As with most fly designs, the paths

856
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: rubber legs is really just a slightly altered rip off

857
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: of a pre existing pattern. The original that spawned the

858
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: modern turd was the girdle bug, invented by a guy

859
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: named Frank McGuinness of Anaconda, Montana in the early nineteen thirties.

860
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: Back then, fly tying materials didn't exist. People tied flies

861
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: out of whatever feathers or other ship the head laying around.

862
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: Turns out McGuinness was a true pioneer when it came

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00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: to creative materials for dressing flies. See Frontier women were

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00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: known for their toughness and resilience, but not so much

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Speaker 1: for their spelt physiques, if you know what I mean.

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: That said, even the pioneer gals like to get dolled

867
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Speaker 1: up once a while and hit the town, and back

868
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Speaker 1: then that meant smushing their midsections into constrictive shape enforcing

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Speaker 1: garments called girdles. Girdles were some of the first articles

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Speaker 1: of clothing to employ elastic bands, and legend has it

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Speaker 1: that when McGuinness saw some of those little white strings

872
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: of supple elastic poking out of his wife's well worn undergarments.

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00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: He got inspired, only probably not in the way she

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00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: was hoping. He figured those little white bands would look

875
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: damn good his legs or antennae on wet flies, so

876
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: it caught off a few, paired them with some black

877
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: chanel he stole from her sewing kit, and bam, one

878
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: of the world's greatest fish fooling inventions was born. A

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00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: half century later, the girdle bug got upgraded with new

880
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: colors and synthetic materials and became the ubiquitous trout catcher

881
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: we know today. Simplicity is a virtue in fly design.

882
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: Spending forty minutes crafting a perfectly proportioned work of bug art,

883
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: only too s app it off on the second cast sucks.

884
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: Turd Flies consist of three materials four if you add weight.

885
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Good tires can whip these out in a couple of

886
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: minutes flat, no matter how many empty PBR cans are

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00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: scattered around the vice. Turds work in any river with

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00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: populations of stone flies. Stone Flies are found on every

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00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: continent except Antarctica, and are as irresistible to trout as

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Speaker 1: waffle house hash Browns are Southerners. Turns don't look all

891
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: that much like real stone flies. You can find dozens

892
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: of other patterns that look a whole hell of a

893
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: lot more like the real thing. They have perfect abdomen,

894
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: the thorax proportions, detailed modeling on the wing cases, articulated legs.

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00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: They look like they might just crawl out of your

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00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: box and join one of the annual stream side orgies

897
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: that stone flies have after they hatch. Problem is, those

898
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: realistic flies don't really work, at least not for me.

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Speaker 1: Maybe fish appreciate simplicity too, or maybe they're just dumber

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00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: than we think. Turds are the ultimate guide fly. Simple,

901
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: fast and cheap to make, but deadly effective. Even if

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00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: you've never tied to fly in your life. You can

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00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: wrap up three or four of these and a half

904
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: an hour and they will catch fish. So go buy

905
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: yourself some Shaniel rubber legs, long shank hooks, maybe a

906
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: six pack or two. Now is as good as time

907
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: as any to learn how to tie flies, and turds

908
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: are as good a fly as any to learn on.

909
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: So if we're recapping, Hank Patterson is apparently still alive.

910
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: And well, uh, Time on the Water is the l

911
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: a punk band version of muskie literature. I've got a

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00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: new bar to hit up on my home turf and

913
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: fly fishing. As it turns out, shocker, after all these

914
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Speaker 1: years of research, isn't just for rich people, true story.

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Speaker 1: Carry those bullet points of brilliance into the weekend and

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Speaker 1: do some good with them. Maybe even catch a fisher too.

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Speaker 1: And and if you do, tell us about it, send

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Speaker 1: us an email at bent at the meat Eater dot com.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what's great, tell us what sucks, tell us

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00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: all the reasons why we should never be allowed to

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Speaker 1: host a podcast again. And I'm going to head over

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Speaker 1: to St. George's pub with the copy of Time on

923
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Speaker 1: the Water that I stole from your bookshelf and do

924
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: me a little quality reading. Son of a bitch, I'm

925
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Speaker 1: gonna piss off my whole family by reliving my high

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Speaker 1: school angsty days and blasting some classic Descendants cuts. See

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Speaker 1: you next week.