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Speaker 1: Falcons Audible presented by AT and T is back. At

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Speaker 1: least it's back for US three. And you kind of

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Speaker 1: get those awkward moments because Arch is starting to feel

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Speaker 1: on DJ's bicelles. He feels like a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, here's my first round draft pick right here.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen each other in a while. Like football

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Speaker 1: players for players, you get get really close really quickly.

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Speaker 3: This is this is literally this is our locker room.

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Speaker 3: So we get a chance to get together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically you're getting a glimpse into the locker room,

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Speaker 1: but just with some microphones in front of us, which

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Speaker 1: is what everybody's dreaming is, right, Like put the microphone

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and just let the guys go. However,

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Speaker 1: we do have to keep things clean in this medium,

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Speaker 1: because the locker room is anything but clean. However, and

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Speaker 1: when I met clean, I meant language. Okay, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a sanitary environment, all right. So we are here, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about some draft. Before we get into

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Speaker 1: the draft, guys, I'm gonna throw you a curveball because

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Speaker 1: this has kind of been off season a little bit, right, fastball,

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Speaker 1: so you, oh, you are covering braves now, right, so

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Speaker 1: you are a fastball guy. However, this is kind of

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Speaker 1: off season, so I want to get your guys's opinion

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Speaker 1: when you were playing. Were you a vacationer in the

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Speaker 1: off season? Were you a golfer? Were you something else?

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Speaker 1: Were you a video gamer?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What did you guys do in your off seasons?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, all the above. You didn't name anything I didn't do,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't I didn't know where to go with that.

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Speaker 2: So yes, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, sometimes I feel like the fans out there, they

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Speaker 1: want to know what the guys do in their spare time,

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Speaker 1: right like now they're back, they're working out. They're right

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Speaker 1: what they do on the field during the season, wins

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Speaker 1: and losses. Are they picking off passes? Throwing touchdowns? But

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Speaker 1: what do you do when you unload DJ? When you

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Speaker 1: when you don't have to go out there and perform

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of guys they take trips. You get,

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Speaker 3: you get a chance to get away, you get a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys have families. Most guys, you know, when

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Speaker 4: And kids and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: So it's more of you know, hanging out with your boys,

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Speaker 3: of dudes nowadays play a lot of golf, which is great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it gives you still that competitive edge.

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Speaker 3: and then for the older guys, it's you know, trips,

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Speaker 3: But I think more guys play golf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of guys playing golf. I think

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Speaker 2: now you do like shock shock, like goes to this

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Speaker 1: People there Nobody notices that.

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Speaker 1: You, guys. I was a vacationer and a golfer because

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Speaker 3: So you are what what they say now was raq

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Speaker 4: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I was rolling up to the clubs in my buick

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the draft coming up next week. So

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Speaker 1: as we know, fellas, Falcons will be selecting at eight.

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Speaker 1: Seems like eight has been a common number for you.

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Speaker 1: Falcons selecting at number eight. So fellas, let's just dive

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Speaker 1: But you've had plenty of time to think about this.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons and DJ Shockley are on the clock,

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Speaker 1: number eight. Pick is here? Who you got for the

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Speaker 2: Qualify on this?

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Speaker 2: The qualifier is Shock's gonna name like eight guys.

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Speaker 1: You can't name you, I give you. I'll give you

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Speaker 3: Commissioner knows me by now, he knows I'm a prize.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's available.

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Speaker 1: Here's what. Here's what I'll let you do. Then two

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Speaker 4: Pick one, shout and put me in the corner.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and choose one to shout them

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Speaker 2: What you got?

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Speaker 3: So, after much deliberation, I mean, where's my clock? I

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Speaker 3: need ten minutes of time? I don't get that right now,

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Speaker 3: Kuya Mitchell, the corner from Toledo. Obviously, there are two

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Speaker 3: the number one position. But I think this is a

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Speaker 3: guy we've talked about for a long time that can

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Speaker 3: go on the other side of aj Terrell and now

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Speaker 3: you have booking guys, young guys at that with size speed.

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Speaker 3: This guy is a thirty against vert run a four

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Speaker 3: This is a guy I think that will fit very

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Speaker 3: Can play off, can play zone, can put his hands

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Speaker 4: I like Mitchell here.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those kind of guys that you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he gets past fifteen in his draft,

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this then, Okay, any concern

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Speaker 2: for you played it Toledo and we've seen guys come

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Speaker 2: mean that's meaning that they weren't on television a lot.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't one of those kind of scenarios where this

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Speaker 2: since the combine, and what he did there. Any concerns

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Speaker 2: light the scoreboard up with Maybe he hasn't played that

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Speaker 3: And it's I mean, it's a great question to ask

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Speaker 3: because you think about a lot of guys who come

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Speaker 3: Josh Allahen was a guy came from a smaller school

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna be an issue because I

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a chance to face these guys before

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Speaker 3: So when he gets to maybe game time, yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: all have their issues here and there.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think him.

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Speaker 3: Playing in Toledo and playing not to people will say

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Speaker 3: the caliber of players that will play in the Power

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Speaker 3: five Conference, he's going to be a detracted for him.

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Speaker 4: And I think he's one of those kind.

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Speaker 3: Of guys that, as we know most dbs, they are

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Speaker 4: They're gonna find a way to compete.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna go get it, and uh, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it'll be a big issue, but absolutely it's a it's

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Speaker 2: Second team All American, he had forty six pass breakups.

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Speaker 2: So the guy's a ballhawk, as Shock talked about. And

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Speaker 1: Love that you threw that out, Arch, because that was

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Speaker 3: When you guys, just when you were talking, the one

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Speaker 4: Was in my class. Brent Grimes. Yeah, Shippingsburg.

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Speaker 3: He never heard of it, don't know where he came from,

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Speaker 3: He was five six, five seven, what it was, he

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Speaker 2: Is, discount the chip on the shoulder, the mentality right

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Speaker 1: You know, we throw this term out a lot. We're

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Speaker 1: I think, hey, first of all, aren't you proud of him?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's incredible, even though he held his feet to

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Speaker 1: You are now on the clock and our I mean,

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Speaker 1: DJ's got his little steno pad here, but like Arch

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Speaker 2: I can't find anymore, so I gotta put colors on

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Speaker 2: him and stuff like this, like playing with crepe paper

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Speaker 2: when you're a little kid.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm in one on one over here.

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Speaker 2: You got right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with something that's gonna be fairly common.

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Speaker 2: I think from a mock draft standpoint, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: his ability to put his hands on you too. He's

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Speaker 2: He had a one to five to four ten yard split.

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Speaker 2: So the dude can come come off the football, but

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Speaker 2: and look at tape. We did some stuff on and

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Speaker 2: you can go to Lanta Falcons dot com. As we

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Speaker 2: get these player breakdowns. We did some edge We did

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Speaker 3: You got a chance to see that dude up close

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Speaker 4: Like, you can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 3: When he decided to take over a ballume decided to

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Speaker 3: he definitely fished them.

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Speaker 2: Mope, all right, let me flip the script.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you flip the script for you can? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay'm gonna jump in the one. Derrek Rackley, who is

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Speaker 1: Number eight overall the twenty twenty four draft, the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcons select Dallas Turner. Dallas Turner as well, And I

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Speaker 1: Pass Rusher is a huge need for Atlanta. Arch Correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but I read this the other day.

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Speaker 1: Since John Abraham left in twenty thirteen, we've had one

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Speaker 1: We're in twenty twenty four and we've got one player

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: I've called up lot of his games working on national radio.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I like about Dallas Turner because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I know that Dallas Turner has been playing against NFL

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Speaker 1: I looked up his stats. Okay, he had a great season.

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Speaker 1: He had three sacks against Coastal Carolina. I watched every

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Speaker 1: Like he just walked around these dudes and he got

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm the Atlanta Falcons and I understand the

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Speaker 1: and I've seen him produce. So we've talked a little

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the only concern that comes from me for

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Speaker 2: He's got a little more heaviness to him. Doesn't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again to me like I saw Verse, I

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Speaker 4: Dj Turner is the guy for me for sure?

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Speaker 3: And when I look at the three, I think Art

439
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Speaker 3: did a good job of talking about how they the

440
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Speaker 3: mold of all three of these guys. And when I

441
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Speaker 3: say the mold of you look at Dallas Turner, you say, Okay,

442
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 3: which guy you think fits what the Falcons want to

443
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: do the most? And people talk about three four to

444
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Speaker 3: four to three. I think he can be interchangeable in

445
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Speaker 3: either one of them. And the fact that he can

446
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Speaker 3: stand up and rush, he can stand up and drop,

447
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 3: he can stand up and cover. I think that's a

448
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 3: difference from what a LAT two can do. I think

449
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 3: that's a little bit different from what Verse can do.

450
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 3: Both those guys are a little bit heavier set guys.

451
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Speaker 3: So guess what those guys can play that run just

452
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit better than maybe you know Dallas

453
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Speaker 3: Turner camp. But I'm saying, lets just say he can't

454
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Speaker 3: do it at all either. But I think Turner comes

455
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Speaker 3: in and he adds everything that you want the versa

456
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Speaker 3: two that you want to be able to move him

457
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Speaker 3: all around and play him in multiple spots. I think

458
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Speaker 3: it's one of those type guys I feel like in

459
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Speaker 3: terms of guy that you can put him inside and

460
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Speaker 3: you can see in Rush in the A gap or

461
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 3: you can you know, have stunts and all that kind

462
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Speaker 3: of stuff. Not saying the other two guys can't, but

463
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Speaker 3: I just love the fact that you can use him,

464
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Speaker 3: and I think multiple of ways. Then maybe you can

465
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Speaker 3: use both of those guys because of their sides. And

466
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Speaker 3: like O mentioned this, you know lots of guy who

467
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Speaker 3: has the power, has the punch, can get a field

468
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Speaker 3: wants to be one of those guys like a mall

469
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Speaker 3: or on the inside. But I think Turner gives you

470
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Speaker 3: the best of both worlds. When you're talking about being

471
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Speaker 3: able to be versatile inside this defense and do multiple things.

472
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you guys this. Yeah, okay, so we've

473
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Speaker 2: made our select. You and I both took Turner. You

474
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Speaker 2: took Mitchell all three players are being projected, or all

475
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Speaker 2: both players are being projected top ten picks. Okay, so

476
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Speaker 2: give me an idea your guys' thoughts on I am

477
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Speaker 2: of the opinion that the best player available, which has

478
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Speaker 2: been Terry Fontineau's philosophy, best player available, I think that

479
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Speaker 2: matches the defensive player this year, if it's Turner or

480
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Speaker 2: if it's Mitchell. Let's say Turners off the board, Mitchell's there.

481
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Speaker 2: This is the first year, and I hope I'm saying

482
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Speaker 2: this right, that the ability of the player and best

483
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Speaker 2: player available and need match matches this year.

484
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Speaker 1: First because last year, coming off the season we had

485
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Speaker 1: with Tyler Aljier, probably not thinking they were gonna go

486
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Speaker 1: with a running back John Robinson, but he was. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, but he was clearly the guy that they

488
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: fell in love with, right and obviously he's turned out

489
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Speaker 1: to be a great player in his first year and

490
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Speaker 1: probably many years to come. But I agree with you

491
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Speaker 1: because you think, okay, is this a year where the

492
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Speaker 1: Falcons trade up? And I'm like, well trade up for what? Really?

493
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Speaker 1: I mean, It's like quarterbacks and wide receivers are the

494
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: ones that are going ahead of them, and I don't

495
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Speaker 1: know if that's what is the top need for them

496
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Speaker 1: right now for what they would have to give up

497
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Speaker 1: in the trade right to go to move up higher.

498
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Speaker 1: So I would agree with you. I mean, if they're

499
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Speaker 1: looking at the player that's likely going to be available,

500
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Speaker 1: let's just call it Dallas Turner if that's the case,

501
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Speaker 1: or if it's the corner and it matches. And the

502
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Speaker 1: other big thing too, guys, is we've talked about what

503
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Speaker 1: Terry Fontineau looks for up here, like he's always talking

504
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Speaker 1: about the player that fits what they're looking for. And

505
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: we may not know that because we don't get a

506
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Speaker 1: chance to sit down with Mitchell or Dallas Turner and

507
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Speaker 1: the extent that they do, right, But they're also looking

508
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Speaker 1: for what the guy has between his ears, not just

509
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: matching it with what he does on the field.

510
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Speaker 3: All right, let me add another scenario to the conversation

511
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: of we've talked about need versus want. We've talked about Okay, yeah,

512
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: the edge rusher fits exactly what you need and what

513
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Speaker 3: you want to add to this team. What about if

514
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: a guy like a Roman Douze is there as well,

515
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Speaker 3: and you say, okay, we got mooney, we got a

516
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: couple different guys that's coming in from receiver. Are those

517
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Speaker 3: clear cut guys that can be on the other side

518
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 3: of Drake Lennon that gives you problems? And I know

519
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: you've went offense the last three or four years at

520
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: this particular spot. Would that be something that you look

521
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Speaker 3: at and say that's far blown or you think this

522
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: is a value pick as well at that position, saying

523
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Speaker 3: this guy can help us right away, just like a

524
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Speaker 3: Dallas turn.

525
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Speaker 2: You get to me, you'd have to be extremely comfortable

526
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Speaker 2: that with your second pick or the ability to get

527
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Speaker 2: maybe to another spot in the first round, that there's

528
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Speaker 2: some buddy's sitting there, is Chop Robinson sitting there, Darius Robinson?

529
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Speaker 2: Whoever you think is that next tier of edge rushers

530
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Speaker 2: and or corners? And I was gonna ask the same question.

531
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Mitchell as your pick. If it's Mitchell, Terry

532
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: On Arnold, whoever it is the corner at eight, are

533
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: you comfortable enough that that next tier of edge rushers

534
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Speaker 2: is because you're looking for a starter. You're not looking

535
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Speaker 2: for some guy to come in and contribute. You're looking

536
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Speaker 2: for a guy to come in and make an impact

537
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: on defense. Is that guy? Are you guys feel like

538
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: that there's depth there. So I'm almost throwing the question back.

539
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't take a receiver. I love Adonsay, I love neighbors,

540
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: love obviously Harrison. There's enough receivers in the second and

541
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Speaker 2: third round. I don't need to go get a guy

542
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: in the first round. I need to get a difference

543
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 2: maker defensively. That's my feeling.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you. I mean, I've kind

545
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: of been last season. I was pounding the table about

546
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: needing somebody that can go up over the top of

547
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Speaker 1: the defense. Remember the trade they made with Van Jefferson.

548
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to get that guy that

549
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: speeds to her, that could blow past the defense, and

550
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: it didn't necessarily work out in their favor. So I

551
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: still believe that they need that. Maybe one of the

552
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: guys that came in can end up fitting that bill.

553
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: We know what Drake London is. He's going to physicality.

554
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: He's going to win you with his size and going

555
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: up over the top of it you. We know that

556
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is going to do the same thing. But

557
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: do we have somebody that's going to make a defensive

558
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: back turn his hips and run the other direction, because

559
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: then you have a lot of options right now, your corners,

560
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: your comebacks open up, and then if they don't respect it,

561
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: you throw the ball over the top and you got

562
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: somebody like Kirk Cousins that is not afraid to take

563
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: some shots downfield. So obviously a lot of discussions here,

564
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: and you're right, we'll see what happens if the Atlanta

565
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Falcons there scouting department, a personnel department like what sits

566
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Speaker 1: behind in the second round for a corner or for

567
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Speaker 1: a defensive end, a pass rusher. So, guys, we talked

568
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Speaker 1: a little bit about corner, we talked about pass rusher.

569
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about position groups for the rest of the

570
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Speaker 1: draft of the Falcons. Dj'm going to start with you.

571
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: We mentioned it. Maybe this is another maybe you stay, okay,

572
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: we need more corners and we need more pass rushers.

573
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: But where do you think Atlanta goes next as far

574
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: as position groups to address for the twenty twenty four season.

575
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Speaker 3: You know, I think there are a couple spaces that

576
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: you look at, and obviously, if you go with the

577
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: pass rusher on that first pick at number eight, I

578
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: think Amelia, your mind goes to Okay, Now, let's solidify

579
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: the back end. So you think about guys that you

580
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: already got in the house that can play multiple spots

581
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: and can move inside. And that's why I think the

582
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: corner position is another guy that you can feel on

583
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: the outside and say, all right, once we start looking

584
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: deeper into this draft, how do we become better on

585
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: the back end? How do we take the football away?

586
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: And that comes with edge rushers and solidifying that air front.

587
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: We saw Aby Katie come on last year. He would

588
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 3: be a big part of that. But if you add

589
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: that guy at number eight, and then you say, all right,

590
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: let's make sure we solidify our other end, because we

591
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: know this is a league that loves to throw the

592
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: football around.

593
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

594
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: We know this is a league that you need four

595
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: or five corners that are legit to be able to

596
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: play in this game. So why not go out and

597
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: find that young guy that you compare with Ajhred, you

598
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: compare with some of these guys on the outside as well,

599
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: pair with d Offered Clark Phillips on the inside. Let

600
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: those guys play predominantly in the slot, which were really

601
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: good last year. We saw both guys play on the

602
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: outside last year and play pretty good football.

603
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: But now you're bringing another guy. I think so.

604
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: I think the corner spot, that secondary spot is a

605
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: good position to start. We want you to get into

606
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: the latter rounds Artch.

607
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: What do you think do you guys feel like, are

608
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: we still if we get into that mode? Because you're

609
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: a little bit deeper on your board now. But how

610
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: gms in personnel and coaches set it up is they've

611
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: got their top the criteria, the top one hundred or

612
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: the top twenty five guys or whatever, regardless of position,

613
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 2: and then they've got a grouping of each position and

614
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: where those guys stack up in their own position group.

615
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: So they'll be a number of number two overall, but

616
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: maybe number one in an edge rusher and so. And

617
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: now they're trying to mix and match. How that works

618
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: As you get deeper into the draft, how far in

619
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: do you go before the best player available thing goes

620
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: out the window for you in your mind? Or you

621
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: take a guy you need, like a corner. He might

622
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: not be Let's say you're picking at forty and he's

623
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: about fifty five on your board, but he's the best

624
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: corner available, you know, and you get me.

625
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the first thing that came to my head

626
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: was like around the third round. But arch I think

627
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: what happens, and I could be completely wrong here, but

628
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: this is where for us and for the average fan,

629
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: what they don't know is how much time the scouting

630
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: departments get to spend with these guys, right. And so

631
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: what every draft expert might say is the top five

632
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: corners that doesn't necessarily always match what Terry and Raheem

633
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: think is the top five corners or linebackers or pass

634
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: rushers or whatever it is, because they went and sat

635
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: down with a kid at the combine or at his

636
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: pro day or on a visit and they got to

637
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: know somebody, and they said, everybody got this guy at

638
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: number six on their board, but he's two on ours

639
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: because we follow, we know what this kid's makeup is,

640
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: and we love him.

641
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Right.

642
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: So that's why I sometimes I tend to veer away

643
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: from some of that stuff because I know, and I've

644
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: heard Terry say it many times when he signed Jesse Bates,

645
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: when he brought number of times he said, this guy

646
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: fits what we want to do it it's an Atlanta Falcon.

647
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: We like what he's going to bring it in the

648
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: locker room. And so to me, I feel like third

649
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: round is but it could be late second, right, be

650
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: late second when somebody is available and they love him,

651
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: they decide that they want to go get them.

652
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense, I think for me, when you

653
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: look at that second round and you begin to think, Okay,

654
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: if you got the edge rusher in the first round,

655
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning what shot because NX Shock was

656
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: dead on and the fact that you're looking to try

657
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: to address opposite Ajterrrell because there is some uncertainty. I mean,

658
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: obviously we had a coup to play there. Clark Phillips

659
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: played there at that corner spot. I like you. I

660
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: think you love what de Alford can do in the slot,

661
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: so you're not so concerned there. But the other corner

662
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: is kind of a bit of a question. Now you

663
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: hope that Clark takes a next step, but Willie, so

664
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Speaker 2: do you put some competition in the room with him

665
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: with a with a pick like Shock's talking about. I

666
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: think that makes a ton of sense. There's some really

667
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: good players certainly sitting in that situation. You could you

668
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: could go to one of the Georgia Bulldogs. I think

669
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 2: that you know, you start talking about Lassiter Kamari Lassiter

670
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: is going to be sitting there, uh TJ. Tampa at

671
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Iowa State, kool Aid McKinstry from Alabama maybe sitting there.

672
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Here's the one that's intriguing to me. The one area

673
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: that I'm a little concerned about on the offensive side

674
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: of the football is it the center spot?

675
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Okay?

676
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: Okay? And I think Drew Dolmond is going to take

677
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: that next step. And I think he did some really

678
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: good things this last year. When you run it as

679
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: good as we have the last couple of years, he's

680
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: obviously getting his head on somebody and blocking people. But

681
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: you've got a quarterback that's not going anywhere now, okay,

682
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: And so interior pressure is going to be a huge

683
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: thing this year. Okay. And if Jackson power hours Johnson

684
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: is sitting there, the big center out of Oregon guys

685
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: six foot six foot four, six thirty six y four,

686
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pounds. If you watch him on tape,

687
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: there isn't nobody moving this dude out of the way. Now,

688
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: he's not the biggest, the quickest foot guy, yep. But

689
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: if you're if you're blocking the you're trying to double

690
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: team that three technique or whatever, and he's a part

691
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: of that, or if he's singled up on somebody, he's

692
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: pretty good. And so that would be the one area

693
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: that might be off of what everybody else is thinking about.

694
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm thinking interior offensive line. Of course, that's the quarterback

695
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 2: coming out of here. And and you know what, art

696
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: you you brought that up.

697
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: It it kind of ring for me because it wasn't

698
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: off the beaten path for me, because my mind went to, Okay,

699
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: we got a guy that's outside who's played a lot

700
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: of football in Jake Matthews. When do you start looking

701
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: for the guy to come in and say, all right.

702
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: Here's your Aaron print. You can learn behind.

703
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: This guy for a couple of years or year or

704
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: two whatever it may be, yep, and say, okay, here's

705
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: the guy that can fill that voice. So I wasn't

706
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: far off thinking about the offensive line as well too,

707
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: of adding pieces to it. Obviously, you got some guys

708
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: that are in house right now and we've seen that

709
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: can play multiple spots and all that kind of stuff.

710
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: But are you looking for that signature left tackle that

711
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: can replace you?

712
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: Think about it.

713
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: You got to you got one hundred billion dollar quarterback

714
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: in the here that you absolutely want to protect for

715
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: the next couple of years. Not saying Jake is done,

716
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: not saying he's old with he he's got to be

717
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: out of here. But when you start looking to it

718
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: a future like ours talks about at that center spot,

719
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: that offensive line, it's absolutely really.

720
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Important to take the quarterback. It's a deep group of

721
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: offensive tackles too. You're talking about you're talking about as

722
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: many as seven guys could go in the first round.

723
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of really good tackles out there.

724
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: So it's a good thing because you think about the

725
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: last two years, basically Mariota, Desmond, Ridder, guys that had

726
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: the athleticism to get out outside the pocket if they

727
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: needed to. And so they're thinking, okay, well things break down.

728
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: We've got a guy that's got the athleticism. Kurt wants

729
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: to stay in the pocket and sling it. And I

730
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: think that's what this organization needs, is somebody that can

731
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: sling it like Matt Ryan did when he was in

732
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: his prime. So keeping him upright and giving him a

733
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: clean pocket is a smart one. I'm gonna throw one

734
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: more position group out at you that we have doesn't

735
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we've mentioned anything about but I started

736
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: thinking about the linebacker group, okay. And the reason why

737
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I say that is we had an injury last year

738
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: and an inside interior linebacker position and it was kind

739
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: of like, what are we going to do now? Right

740
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: went out and got Cayden Ellis. I think he played

741
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: some really good football last year. But I think depth

742
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, and I like inside like guys

743
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: that are going to be able to fill gaps, help

744
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: you stop the run, but also can turn their hips

745
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: and cover a tight end and passes. So that would

746
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: be an area that I would look to as well.

747
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: And a guy that you feel like has got the

748
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: athleticism to contribute right away on special teams. He can

749
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: be one of your guards or tackles on the punt team,

750
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: going down and making tackles. He's going to be on

751
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: your kickoff coverage team, which we know those guys aren't

752
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: making many tackles anymore of these days, but it's not necessar.

753
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: That's certainly the most luxurious position, but we saw last

754
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: year how important it is. Like you got to have

755
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: some studs and think about the couple of the teams

756
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: that went deep in the postseason, the Ravens and the

757
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, they got studs at the inside linebacker position.

758
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: So not to take anything away that we don't have that,

759
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I just think that's another position group that you think about.

760
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: If there's somebody sitting there that you fell in love

761
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: with that you feel I can contribute, bring another linebacker

762
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: onto this team. I feel like it's an area that

763
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: will help them.

764
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: That's a great call. I think that the linebackers change now,

765
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: it's the linebackers, not this two hundred and forty five

766
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 2: pound guy that's stepping up and drilling a garb more

767
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: singa parios and those guys those days are playmore. You're

768
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: talking about two hundred and twenty eight pounds to about

769
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: two thirty five. Talking about guys that can run, names

770
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: like Junior Colson out of Michigan, Drin Cooper out of

771
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: the Texas a and m Trevin Wallace, Peyton Wilson at

772
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: NC State. It's not a deep group. There's probably only

773
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: about four or five guys that are projected to be

774
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: first two day picks, and then you're talking about third day.

775
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: But it doesn't hurt to get a guy like you're

776
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: talking about I mean, let's let's uh uh Alucon who

777
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: came in here was what a seventh or a sixth

778
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: round pick out of out of Yale.

779
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Dude deal the leading tagger last two seasons in the

780
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: National Football League.

781
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: So those guys can be found. So it's a good point.

782
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: And Troy Anderson date Laman, I mean, those they've found

783
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: some good workhorse linebackers. So I think black record has

784
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: been pretty good. Last question I have for you before

785
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: we sign off. Do you feel like Atlanta's This is

786
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: a hard question to answer because every draft is different,

787
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: but do you feel like Atlanta's a team that's going

788
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: to be making trades moving in and out of rounds.

789
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Do you see that this year with them or do

790
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: you see that from what you've seen in the past.

791
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: Arch with Terry Fonto, Oh.

792
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: You got you got you. I like that you jumped

793
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: in ready.

794
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Well when he asked that.

795
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: It came to mind when you talked about the question

796
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: of you got a guy fifty five, Oh, you got

797
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: a guy who's ready fifty five and you got the

798
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: fortieth pig or vice versa, and you know a guy

799
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: that you really want, you feel like maybe he won't

800
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: be there ten more picks, and I think that's where

801
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 3: the moves will be made.

802
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think the picks will be made early.

803
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 4: Because we talked about earlier.

804
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: Fous in a really good spot for the guys that

805
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: they want, so it fits them to be where they

806
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: are now. Who knows. I mean, we know Terry Raheem.

807
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: They are adamed about what they want to do. And

808
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: as we seen, Raheem's a guy who hey, he says

809
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna do it, So it's possibly of it.

810
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: But I thought was talking about right relationships, just the

811
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: relationship if you had a you know what they have

812
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: thirty guys come in here or twenty five, So if

813
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: you developed a relationship with those guys at the combine

814
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: or what what you're talking about. You know, if I

815
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: want to jump six spots, he's the best guy. I like.

816
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: I like this guy fitting what we do, then they're

817
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: gonna make the move.

818
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: I don't.

819
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: I don't see them trading a ton, Okay. I think

820
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: that they've done such a good job guys with free

821
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: agency in addressing spots and needs and and adding to

822
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: the wide receiver cord with Mooney and Rondo, Moore and

823
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: guys that can run and do stuff that I think

824
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: that they've got versatility. Where is there a team in

825
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: your mind that's more of a could be a wild

826
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: card as to where they go. I mean, I think

827
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: we were kind of settling into defense at eight, but

828
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: I think their versatility in what they could do after

829
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: the first round is pretty good.

830
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I look at it and as I

832
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: go through my mind about this team, and you look

833
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: at every position, and then you start thinking about the draft,

834
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: you say, okay, well we're pretty good in this spot.

835
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: You look at what happened last year on the defensive

836
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: line when you had on your model, you had Grady,

837
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: We had all these guys healthy and they were playing

838
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: Troy Anderson Kiten on the back end. You're talking about,

839
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, having Jesse and having aj on the OFFENSEID,

840
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: we went through both and USID I said, okay, well this.

841
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Team is pretty well wrapped up. And now you look

842
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: at the draft say okay.

843
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: It makes a point where you say, all right, well

844
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: we got guys who are there. But now we look

845
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: at draft and said we got guys who who we

846
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: think can feel the depth that we need. Yes, because

847
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: obviously we go through a long season and guys go down.

848
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: We just talked about it a linebacker spot. But this

849
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: is a team right now. When you look at that

850
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: first twenty two twenty four guys, you feel pretty good

851
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: about it. So now it's about adding to that. And

852
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: I think that's where Archie is going with, Hey, I

853
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: don't think you have to give away much in this

854
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: draft to be able to go get the guys that

855
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: you need to feel the roles that you want when

856
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: it comes to this team.

857
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Did we address some

858
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: of the needs that you thought that the Atlanta Falcons

859
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: needed for this twenty twenty four draft. Let us know,

860
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: because this is just the next phase in the offseason

861
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: for not only the Atlanta Falcons, but for everybody in

862
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And we will have a whole

863
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: lot more coverage coming up over the next two weeks

864
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: following and covering the NFL Draft. Who does Atlanta Falcons

865
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: bring into the building for their twenty twenty four season.

866
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: It's going to be an exciting time. Dj is going

867
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: to be doing it for the Falcons, for Fox, for

868
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody. Dave will be doing it for the Falcons,

869
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and I'll be doing it for a little bit for

870
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta as well.

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Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, if you guys haven't watched archers

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Speaker 3: stuff on Atlanta Falcons dot com. I mean I go

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Speaker 3: really thought about. So you gotta go watch it. Trust me,

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Speaker 3: it's really great stuff. As you can see.

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Speaker 4: From his work here. The dude puts into time. He

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Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about, So absolutely go check that

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Speaker 4: out too.

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Speaker 1: Arch will be bringing it for the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Just know that, and DJ will too.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: All over, so stay with us.

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Speaker 4: He's gay with us.

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Speaker 2: Three game shows and rat shows and news breaks.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to We got you covered in a

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Speaker 1: lot of different angles, So thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Continue to like, subscribe, and review. However you watch our

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Speaker 1: podcast here Spotify, iTunes, Atlanta Falcons dot Com and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: We will have a whole lot more coverage coming up.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to join us on behalf of DJ and Arch.

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Speaker 1: I'm d RAC otherwise know as Derek Rackley. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us on The Falcons Autible presented by

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Speaker 1: AT and T there you go, Yes, yessir, mhm hm

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Speaker 2: M hmm