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Speaker 1: Nothing is more expensive than making money. That's the fact

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Speaker 1: that I don't say no anxiety episode. But the more

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Speaker 1: dead ass. Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devoured and we're

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Speaker 1: the Ellises. You may know us from posting funny videos

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Speaker 1: with our boys and reading each other publicly as a

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Speaker 1: form of therpy. Wait. I'll make you need therby most days. Wow. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and one more important thing to mention, we're married, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: we are. We created this podcast to open dialogue about

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Speaker 1: some of life's most taboo topics, things most folks don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about. To the lens of a millennium

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Speaker 1: married couple. Dead ass is a term that we say

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Speaker 1: every day. So when we say dead ass, we're actually

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Speaker 1: saying facts one hundred, the truth, the whole truth, and

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Speaker 1: nothing but the truth. Were about to take Philoso off

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Speaker 1: to a whole new level. Dead ass starts right now.

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Speaker 1: This story is going to take us back to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen. Jackson's won twenty eleven, and you was

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Speaker 1: able to retire from makeup full time when Jackson was

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Speaker 1: about a year and a half. About a year and

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Speaker 1: and the reason why I'm choosing this story is because

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Speaker 1: I want to lead into what our discussion is going

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Speaker 1: to be for today. Kaunin was working at MAC. You

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Speaker 1: But I was in there like those of the fifty hours,

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Speaker 1: I was probably making about fifty eight, fifty and sixty ten.

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Speaker 1: And I remember saying to Condein, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: because I was able to make SAG and you focus

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Speaker 1: how like a clients come here, I have my products here,

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Speaker 1: So rather than relying on the store to have the products,

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Speaker 1: Rather than spending the time that you would spend going

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Speaker 1: you utilize your email list and you use that time

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Speaker 1: going to people's homes or you vite them here. This

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Speaker 1: she was like, I kind of makes sense. Give it

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Speaker 1: some time, and I guarantee you you'll be making three

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Speaker 1: was like, the value you sure? I said, I'm positive.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward about a year and so said, so done.

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Speaker 1: Kadeen had doubled up her rate. And when we get

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Speaker 1: being an independent artist. Li la la la wait to

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Speaker 1: lie get my money right? Oh? Good money? Bad? Your

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Speaker 1: money made? But um, I know you know, Kanye West

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Speaker 1: people think it's only because of what he said about

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Speaker 1: saying disparaging comments about George Floyd, Like there were a

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Speaker 1: making money. Yes, all right, we're back. Man. When I

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Speaker 1: remember all of my boys, we all got fake coogie sweaters.

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Speaker 1: but also within your escort. Now, this is important for

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Speaker 1: people to understand. Your LLC is just a shell that

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Speaker 1: protects you against liability, which means Kadeen has color and

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Speaker 1: Contour by K. Say, for example, she does somebody's makeup

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Speaker 1: and there's an earthquake as she posts a woman in

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Speaker 1: the eye. She can't Suekdein for poking her in the eye,

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Speaker 1: but she can sue coloring Contour by K and she

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Speaker 1: can sue the company which will protect protect codein and

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Speaker 1: all of her personal assets. That's what an LLC is.

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Speaker 1: An LLC doesn't change your tax status. The ESCORP changes

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Speaker 1: your tax status. And as you operate as a small business,

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Speaker 1: which means when you're an escorp, you get different tax breaks.

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Speaker 1: Why is that important? When Kadeem makes money as a

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Speaker 1: sole proprietor which is an individual, and if she makes

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Speaker 1: over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in New York City,

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Speaker 1: you are now in the highest tax bracket, which means

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Speaker 1: you're going to get taxed close to fifty percent. When

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Speaker 1: your company makes one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: you're a scorp, your company only gets taxed thirty three percent.

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Speaker 1: Look at that, You see the difference. Plus you get

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Speaker 1: to keep all of that money. First, write off whatever

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Speaker 1: it is you want to write off on your business.

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Speaker 1: So if you make one hundred and fifty k, if

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Speaker 1: you have fifty thousand in expenses, you write off that

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand. Now the government can only tax you on

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, so they'll take only thirty three k

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you, meaning a sole proprietor, and you

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Speaker 1: make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and they're going

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Speaker 1: to take close to fifty percent, which means they'll take

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Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars. Not letting them do it. Not

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Speaker 1: letting them do it. I'm gonna tell you how we

459
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Speaker 1: repeated that the same thing in a gym. We started

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Speaker 1: an LLC in a gym and an s corp. And

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Speaker 1: we made money as a company as opposed to trying

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Speaker 1: to make money as an individual. So when people paid

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Speaker 1: me for personal training, they didn't pay devout. They paid

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Speaker 1: Elite Prototype Athletics the same way. People paid Color and

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Speaker 1: Contour by k the same way. Now I'm an actor.

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Speaker 1: They don't pay Devolis as an actor. They pay my

467
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Speaker 1: shell company, which is ultimately my production company, Savage Savant.

468
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Speaker 1: So when they paid Savage Savant, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: pay fifty percent on them taxes. It's called a loan

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Speaker 1: out company. Or you actors who are listening, or you entertainers,

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Speaker 1: there's a such thing called a loan out company. You

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Speaker 1: are allowed to get your loan out company paid as

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Speaker 1: opposed to being paid as an individual. If your loan

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Speaker 1: out company is then an scorp, you pay thirty three

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Speaker 1: percent on taxes as opposed to fifty percent on taxes.

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Speaker 1: If you make over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: write that down. That is a fact. Now different states

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Speaker 1: have different rules, like, for example, in Georgia, you still

479
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Speaker 1: have to play a six percent like processing tax for Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, and don't work in California. California's taxes is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: California is still coming for us. I'm like, we ain't

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Speaker 1: been there in a long time. That's another We barely

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Speaker 1: even worked in California because it was the freaking pandemic.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why y'all right in me? Every two point

485
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Speaker 1: five seconds, y'all get it together over there. Literally, California

486
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Speaker 1: is one of the worst places to work. And when

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Speaker 1: you played in the league too, Remember every state you

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Speaker 1: played in, you had to have to pay taxes in

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Speaker 1: every state. Every state you make money and you have

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Speaker 1: to pay taxes. The two are the best states to

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Speaker 1: live in our Texas and Florida because neither one have

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Speaker 1: state taxes, So that's another layer of money that you

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Speaker 1: don't have to shell out to people. So that's why

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Speaker 1: a lot of people choose where they're going to live

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Speaker 1: based on where the taxes are, especially if you're an

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur and you live and you you provide a service

497
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Speaker 1: that's electronic and you can live wherever you want. Two

498
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Speaker 1: of the best places to live are Florida in Texas.

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Speaker 1: But the whole point of this is to show you,

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Speaker 1: guys that you do not have to be an entertainment

501
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Speaker 1: or be an athlete to have a dream and to

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Speaker 1: find yourself in a position where you can live autonomously

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Speaker 1: and enjoy your life. But it does take time and

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Speaker 1: it does take money to sacrifice. This is the first

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Speaker 1: thing I'll say to someone because I know they said, well,

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Speaker 1: how do I start devout? If you're in an industry

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Speaker 1: that you love, say you're a teacher. Same thing I

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Speaker 1: did with Roger. If you follow Roger's journey a teacher

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Speaker 1: man on social media, Roger went from being a teacher

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Speaker 1: and now runs his own tutoring and teacher mentorship business.

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Speaker 1: And Roger I think quadrupled his earnings over the last

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Speaker 1: four years. It was impressive. He literally did the same

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Speaker 1: thing he worked as a teacher, got all the certifications,

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Speaker 1: took all his classes, realize where the deficiencies were in

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Speaker 1: the educational system, and then started mentoring and tutoring kids

516
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Speaker 1: at a premium because he was educated enough to do it,

517
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Speaker 1: built that whole program, multiplied himself by teaching other teachers

518
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Speaker 1: how to do the same thing, and now has moved

519
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Speaker 1: on retired from teaching and has her own successful business

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Speaker 1: making six figures, which means it can be done in

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Speaker 1: any industry. It doesn't only have to be makeup. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't only have to be in sports or sports performance.

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Speaker 1: You can be done in any industry. The biggest thing

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Speaker 1: is creating a niche market for it. Yes, trying to

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Speaker 1: see where the demand is or where you can be

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Speaker 1: successful in that, because certain industries are kind of flooded,

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Speaker 1: so you might feel like them, like, how am I

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Speaker 1: going to make a splash in this industry because it's

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Speaker 1: already oversaturated, Whereas I think with Roger, for example, you

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Speaker 1: don't really needn't hear about many teachers doing this. But

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Speaker 1: also too, I don't know people who are willing to

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Speaker 1: put in the hours that he put in. This kid's kid.

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Speaker 1: I know him as a kid. Sorry, Roger, you're not

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Speaker 1: a kid anymore, your girl man, but I've known since

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Speaker 1: he was literally a kid and see him work the

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Speaker 1: hours he works. Rogers now living in Georgia. He comes

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Speaker 1: here twice a month to see the boys in person

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Speaker 1: because they love to have him over in person to

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Speaker 1: do sessions, and he'll ask to come earlier so he

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Speaker 1: can start his sessions here. He'll tutor our children, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then stay back to finish the rest of his team.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we're like, it's eleven o'clock, I'm still here. He's

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Speaker 1: like doing later clients from ten to eleven PM on

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Speaker 1: a Friday. He works a lot of hours, so that's

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Speaker 1: the sacrifice component at the time. Time investment. But also,

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Speaker 1: and this is a point you talked about it, do

547
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Speaker 1: you know what you have to be to be an entrepreneur.

548
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Speaker 1: You have to be an elite in your field for sure.

549
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Speaker 1: You can't just be an entrepreneur by being regular. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: for example, lots to codeindein you should go to be

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Speaker 1: she has be a part of Impact Team. Like what

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Speaker 1: does that mean? Like, I don't make any more money

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Speaker 1: being a part of the Impact Team. No, you don't

554
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Speaker 1: make any more money and you have to pay for

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Speaker 1: the classes to start and traveling to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the Impact Team. But when you decide to become

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Speaker 1: your own boss, having that on your belt that you're

558
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Speaker 1: a member of the Impact Team puts a notch on

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Speaker 1: your belt that makes you greater than just any other artists.

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Speaker 1: And that it did, That's exactly what it was. It

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Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, like you have all of these

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Speaker 1: accolades under the title of just not just a manager,

563
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Speaker 1: because I mean that's also a big responsibility in itself,

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Speaker 1: but it makes you multifascinating your industry. Yes, you were

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Speaker 1: part of the Impact Team, you're also a manager, but

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Speaker 1: you also were number one in sales. Yeah, it's a

567
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Speaker 1: big part portion of it too. For me, it's working

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Speaker 1: in the industry and being elite in the industry so

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Speaker 1: that once you branch off, people can recognize and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why she's branching on, and people want

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Speaker 1: to know that you're an expert in that actual field too.

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00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: You can't just walk cry here just doing anything. Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like after the pandemic, everybody became a coach

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00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: or something, right like, did you realize, Yeah, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to coach a class. And I get it

576
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Speaker 1: because the hustle and people wanted to work and I

577
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Speaker 1: had to pivot. Yeah, that's it. People had to make plans.

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Speaker 1: So I respect that for sure. But it's like, at

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Speaker 1: the same time, what makes you an expert in this

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Speaker 1: particular field? Yes, this industry? You know, what have you

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Speaker 1: done or what accolades have you achieved, or what certifications

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Speaker 1: have you gotten under your belt that makes you worthy

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Speaker 1: of people investing their money now into you. That's a

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Speaker 1: big question, absolutely, and I think people need to understand

585
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Speaker 1: that in order to be an entrepreneur, people have to

586
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Speaker 1: aspire or have to be inspired by what you've done

587
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Speaker 1: in order to trust that they should give you their

588
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Speaker 1: money to do or provide a service for them. Right.

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Speaker 1: My biggest cell when I owned my gym was that

590
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Speaker 1: I understand fitness, speed and agility because I played in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I ran afoord to eight in the forty

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Speaker 1: you know, I made the football team. I practiced this

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Speaker 1: art and I've done it and had been successful at it,

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Speaker 1: so you can trust and value my word. So many

595
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Speaker 1: people try to put the car in front of the

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Speaker 1: horse and just be like, I want to be an

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur and I want to do this, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you have to offer me that I should

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00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: pay you for your service? And that's the time investment

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Speaker 1: that people need. And I know a lot of the

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Speaker 1: younger generation just want to graduate from college and own

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Speaker 1: their own business. I would say, work, and I told

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Speaker 1: Roger this. I said, Roger, give yourself a five year

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Speaker 1: plan in this industry. Work as a teacher for five

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Speaker 1: years so that you have it on your resume that

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Speaker 1: you were a teacher, learned the deficiencies that kids need,

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Speaker 1: so you can build a business around that need so

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Speaker 1: that you can then sell them. I'm an expert at

609
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: this because and this is where this is how it started.

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Speaker 1: He realized that math was an issue for young men

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Speaker 1: and young women in middle school. So he said, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to build out a math program for elementary school

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Speaker 1: that's going to provide them what they need for middle school.

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Speaker 1: And they were like, where are the results. Roger had

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Speaker 1: because he was working for five years the results from

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Speaker 1: all of the kids in middle school who were failing

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Speaker 1: those standardized tests. So what he did during those five

618
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: years would show people this is what's happening. I can

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Speaker 1: fix this problem. I'm e lead at fixing this problem

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Speaker 1: because I worked for five years fixing this problem from

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Speaker 1: my school. These were the grades when I first got here.

622
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: These are the grades here now. But it took a

623
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Speaker 1: five year investment. Reason why I keep saying investments because

624
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: people say the value when you talk about you invested,

625
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: what did you invest in? Did you invest in Nike?

626
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: Did you invest in Disney? No? I invested time and

627
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: resources into myself to make myself a better entrepreneur, to

628
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: be honest, in order to actually make the type of

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Speaker 1: money you want to make in investments like that, you

630
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: would have to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars. If

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Speaker 1: you want to make money in the stock market and

632
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: do it and have longevity and be able to reap

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: the fruits of your benefits. You have to have the

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Speaker 1: capital to invest. This is no knock on anybody. But

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Speaker 1: if you're working in a job and making fifty or

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Speaker 1: sixty k a year, right, that means you make what

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00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a month, that's before taxes. After taxes,

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00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: you're looking at about three thousand dollars a month. You

639
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: still have to pay. Right, if you live in New York,

640
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: you still got to pay rent, transportation and each You

641
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: may have five hundred dollars at the end of the

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00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: month invest and you haven't party yet. Why you talked

643
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: about the bard sesters. You have five hundred dollars, You

644
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: want to be stressed out, You want to go buy

645
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: some some clothes. They'll travel a little bit. Most people

646
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: don't have the type of money they need to invest

647
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: to see that money, reap the fruits of those benefits

648
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: and be able to retire early. So no, don't worry

649
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: about investing in the stock market. Now investing yourself that

650
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: you can make additional revenue doing something else. Kadine, if

651
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: she was by herself, this is what I would have

652
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: told her to do. Listen, stay a full time artist, right,

653
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: but on the weekends. Sacrifice for the next year, sacrifice

654
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: going on any trips and going on any parties. Stay

655
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: a full time artist, and then do weddings on the weekends,

656
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: and then you can triple your money. Do that for

657
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: five years. Right. If you do that for five years

658
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: and you say you save twenty five k every year,

659
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: that's one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars cash you

660
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: have now without one hundred twenty five thousand dollars capital.

661
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Now you could then invest in the property and that

662
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: property could now do what give you residual income? Make

663
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: some money? Yeah, and then once you get that one property,

664
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: you put the money down, you hold on to that

665
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: property for five years. Now you take the equity out

666
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: of that property. You do it again, and you do

667
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: it again, and before you know it, now you have

668
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: a multiple, well a conglomerate of property to help bring

669
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: you residual income. Plus you have tax write offs from

670
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: those properties. Plus you have your job. But now I

671
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: got these properties, I don't have to work full time anymore.

672
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna quit

673
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: this job. I'm gonna be a full time freelance makeup artist,

674
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna triple what I make because now I

675
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: don't have to be stuck at the full time job

676
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: and I have the properties. Now. It took you ten

677
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: years to get there, But guess what, ladies and gentlemen,

678
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: it took ten years for Cadeen and not to get here.

679
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: That's a whole fa It's funny because think about it.

680
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: When I hear you say this stuff, and it just

681
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: like literally just rolls off your tongue, like, oh, you

682
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: could do this, is that the third and carry this

683
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: and carry the one and the bad by two. I'll

684
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: be like, oh right, it sounds amazing. But I feel

685
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, me included, even in that moment,

686
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: just could not see that. And it's like, I don't

687
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: know what it is that with you. Even when we

688
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: met early on eighteen and nineteen year old, You're like, Yo,

689
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: if I get some money from the NFL, I could

690
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: put down in the house, sprint out the two apartments

691
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: of stairs lived. And I'm just like, damn, you just

692
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: have to actually do it. You have to actually do it,

693
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: but you have to have the foresight to understand it.

694
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: It's not going to get done overnight. Every time I

695
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: made a plan. Even when I make a plan for

696
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: us now it's like, give me five years, give me

697
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: ten years, right, because this right here. It's often said

698
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: that more than half of new businesses failed during the

699
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: first year, but this isn't necessarily true. According to the

700
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: US Bureau of Labor Statistics, approximately twenty percent of new

701
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: businesses failed during the first two years of being opened,

702
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: forty five percent during the first five years, and sixty

703
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: five percent during the first during the first ten years.

704
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: You see that, you see how many businesses fail. Most

705
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: of these business fail. You want to know why because

706
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: people quit quite because people quit because their plan was

707
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: never a ten year plan. Their plan was always I

708
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: gotta do this in ten minutes, right and when that

709
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in those full ten minutes, she also to

710
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: requiring you not to jump out the window and be like,

711
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to start this right now. You have to

712
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: have a plan, like there needs to be a plan

713
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: in place, especially when we get a lot of people

714
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: who write into us about, you know, having a partner

715
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: who may want to start a new business, or a

716
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: partner who's not happy with their job, and it's like,

717
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: how do you support the person through the process, because

718
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: it's now it's now becomes a wee thing. Right, you

719
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: want to take on a business that's not just a

720
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: stress on you, that's a stress on both of us

721
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: because we're trying to figure out how to financially stay

722
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: afloat to also support this person through their business and

723
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: their vision. Although sometimes you may not see it, you

724
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: know it's sometimes it's almost going off of a blind

725
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: faith situation and hoping for the best. Right, So it's

726
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: learning when to lean in, when to kind of let

727
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: go sit back, I let your partner do their thing.

728
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Having a plan is so necessary, particularly for partners who

729
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: are doing these things together. But having a plan and

730
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: speaking that plan truthfully. For example, I never told you, baby,

731
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have us back in the year next year.

732
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I always told you give me time. And if y'all

733
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: ever go back and listen to the podcast, I said,

734
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: give me time. And only promise I can make you

735
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: is that every year is going to be better than

736
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: the last. That's the only promise I made because I

737
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: knew it was going to take time. But when you

738
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: have that level of patience, right, you're able to fight

739
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: through those hard times because every business week came up

740
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: with the three that I gave examples are successful. But

741
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: there were moments during those during those ten years where

742
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: it wasn't as successful. For example, I had to learn

743
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: the hard way that there are peaks and valleys in

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: the fitness industry. So September, when the kids go back

745
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: to school, we used to get a big jump, a

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: big jump of people who are wanting to get into

747
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: business because we're get into fitness because the summertime was over,

748
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: kids were back in school, parents wanted to get their

749
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: lives back. The wintertime came right before the holidays. It

750
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: was a valley. Nobody wants to train. From Thanksgiving all

751
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: the way through December and New Year's January. First peak,

752
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: everybody's in the gym. They're going in the gym for

753
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: like three months. Then it gets nice outside in New

754
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: York May, June, July, August, it is the darkest of

755
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: the darkest valleys. And the first two years when I

756
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: owned my own gym, I used to have to take

757
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: all of my resources of the money I saved and

758
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: putting into paying the rent for those months because I

759
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: hadn't I didn't realize that that moment yet like dang,

760
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: like this, we're not getting no money, ye, And it's

761
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: a good thing you planned for that, yes, because imagine

762
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: if you were like, yo, we could ball out because

763
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: we just all this money in the number peak season

764
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: and then the valley comes and you're just like, well,

765
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: this is why we got two nickels erupted. This is

766
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: why you're a good wife, because you also got me

767
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: back on on plan with even this conversation. When you

768
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: start making money in your business, don't spend all the

769
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: money you're making your business. You always have to have

770
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: a reserve, and you always have to have a reserve

771
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: for those valleys. Every time I made money in the business,

772
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: the first thing I did was put money aside for

773
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: our rent. And I used to say, Yo, this is

774
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: going to cover three months of our rent just in

775
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: case there is a bad spot. I know, I at

776
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: least got three months covered that I can figure it

777
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: back out. Once we got our own gym, I was like, shoot,

778
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I got to have three months for our rented home

779
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: and three months for our rent at the gym. So

780
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: even though we were making more money, we were even

781
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: more broke because I had to play He's just like,

782
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: we have to pay our rent and the rent at

783
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: the gym. And I was like, they couldn't put that

784
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: on pause because in the meantime I was then I

785
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: became the one with the business. I was like, so

786
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: what about if we did this, what if we ain't

787
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: somebody trying to buy? Do you remember, No, do you

788
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: remember the idea you came up with married to the gym? Oh? Yes,

789
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: you're right, because the time we had the downtimes was

790
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: when the moms of the athletes I wanted to train

791
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: wanted to train. So it was like, not only do

792
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: you prepare for the downtime, but you pivot. Let's create

793
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: another business within this business we're training athletes, Let's train

794
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the moms during the time when we don't have the athletes.

795
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: And then that business sustained us through those valleys. And

796
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because sometimes it's good

797
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: to lean on your partner when you're when you're so

798
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: head down and you're into the business, you only see

799
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: what you see. Sometimes your partners see something and you like, no,

800
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. I've been doing this.

801
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: But no, they have a different perspective and they can

802
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: see things from a different angle. And when Kay was

803
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: just like, and you start and she said it as

804
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: a joke. We were doing married to the gym, and Kay,

805
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: you need to start training these moms. These moms sitting

806
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: out here watching me and stuff like that, and it

807
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: was like that's a fact light moment. And it developed

808
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: such a beautiful camaraderie like to this day, a lot

809
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: of those moms from that group will message and be like,

810
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: nothing's been the same since you guys left, because we

811
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: had such a great group of women. Yeah, really just

812
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: like invested in each other and taking their time to

813
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: come out together. It was like a session. And then

814
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: what it did was kind of cross promote my makeup

815
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: business because you see that you have no idea how

816
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: many women were like you should not do makeup class

817
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: because you make up looks good and you were for

818
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: mac right. Yeah, so I'm like, oh, y'all want to

819
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: make up class? Say less, Oh we got an empty gym,

820
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: let's put in some lights and tastes makeup, and I'm

821
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna give y'all a makeup class. Okay. So we started

822
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: infusing each other's businesses together and making even more money

823
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: because once people started feeling better about themselves physically. They

824
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: wanted to look better, so all that the women were

825
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: getting their makeup done, they want to do makeup classes.

826
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: They wanted to just feel better about themselves. And it

827
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: just it showed Cadine and I that if you put

828
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: your mind towards something together, you can be successful and

829
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: continue to grow, especially if you're not stepping on each other. Right,

830
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: No one business was more important than the other business.

831
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: It was how can these businesses help create more opportunities?

832
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: But like you said, though, there was a point where

833
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: Codine and I were making and this is y'all gonna laugh,

834
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: because we were living in this apartment. If I told

835
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: you how much money we're making this department. When we

836
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: did our taxes, there was one year we had made

837
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: about three hundred and seventy K, which everybody was just like, yo, yeah,

838
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: y'all bawling, y'all making this amount of money. And we

839
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: were broke because, like I said early on, one thing

840
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: it does to make money is it costs money to

841
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: make money. You could make that much money, but I

842
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: had hired employees, I had rent to pay for the gym,

843
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: we had bought more products. We continue to invest in

844
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: both businesses so the businesses could make more money, but

845
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: we didn't have excess money because we were always planning

846
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: for when something bad was going to happened. Because after

847
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: getting cut in the NFL and having to move back

848
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: to book, we was like, we're not going back here.

849
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: So we weren't poor in the apartment, but we were

850
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: broke because we weren't like we were constantly investing back

851
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: into the business. And I solely, I honestly believe that

852
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: if we didn't decide to do business, do TV and

853
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: do social media, we would have been thriving in the

854
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: fitness and makeup industry because we were growing, like we

855
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: were going NonStop. If that's where the heart was, yeah, sure,

856
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: then you know, I feel like that was just a

857
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: transitionary period for us. Yeah, neither one of us super

858
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: super invested in it, but it was using a trade

859
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: or using a yeah a skill that we had skill

860
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: or a trade. Talk about it, you know, because sometimes

861
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: you think about the people who are just not for

862
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: schools and not for college, just not that's not their path.

863
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: And I know quite a few people actually who didn't

864
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: go to college. And for example, my cousin, he's a

865
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: firefighter and didn't go to college because he just knew

866
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to be for him, and freaking

867
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: went to the academy for the fire department. And it's thriving,

868
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: I mean, working crazy over time, and I'm just born

869
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: a property and second property. I mean, so sometimes you

870
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: just have to know where. You know yourself better than

871
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: anybody else, so you know where you'd be able to

872
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: delay those bricks in that foundation. Um so yeah, good stuff.

873
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: And Ellis we dat me up, bro, We know when

874
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: I think back to them days, so many stories, so

875
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: many stories, so many moments. Let's let's just to bring

876
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: you out back to where where we were in two

877
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: thousand and nine when we moved back to the apartment. Officially,

878
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: I had zero income. I didn't have that. We had

879
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a fifteen thousand dollars credit card bill, which there was

880
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: another story because the Codean ran that up when I

881
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: was in the league Codean was making no money because

882
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: I just retired and I was in two thousand and nine.

883
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: Two thousand and ten was when you started working at

884
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: MAC full time in New York. In New York, so

885
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: you were making between you said about fifteen sixty fifty

886
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: to sixty K. In twenty ten, I was making ten

887
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: dollars an hour working at Parisi's p School. My expenses

888
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: were still more than what I made. Had to pay rent.

889
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I had to pay two uh mortgages Tennessee and Detroit

890
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: three car notes, so I was pretty much hemorrhaging our

891
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: savings account at that point. And that wasn't two thousand

892
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: and ten. That was probably the most hurtful part for me,

893
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: because we're just money's bleeding in places that we're not

894
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: even existing in. I get my servants from the NFL

895
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: that holds us over in two thousan eleven. UM twenty eleven,

896
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Jackson is born, You're working full time. I'm working at

897
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: MSG Varsity. At this point, I was probably making around

898
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: between MSG Varsity and working at Parisi's Speed School. I

899
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: was probably making around fifty sixty so collectively we were

900
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: about a hundred K. And that was in two thousand

901
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: and eleven. Two thousand and twelve was the Times picture

902
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: when people got introduced to us the Viral family from

903
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the Tims picture we had on the white shows with

904
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: the blue jeans was twenty and twelve. He was so

905
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: little there. We were collectively making a hundred K. Two

906
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, thirteen is when I started doing commercials.

907
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: I was working at MSG Varsity. I was a substitute.

908
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: You had dropped back and started doing freelance, and our

909
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: income had jumped to about two fifty and that was

910
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and thirteen. By the time Cairo had

911
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: got here, we were comfortable in the apartment. We're making

912
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: about over three hundred K collectively in the apartment, abot

913
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: three hundred about twenty and sixteen. Yeah, we had Jackson,

914
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: we had Cairo. I vowed to not have any more

915
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: kids in that apartment. I said, is it If we

916
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: have any more kids, it's going to have to be

917
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: in our own home somewhere. We don't know where it's

918
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna be, but it's gonna be somewhere. And we said

919
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: we wasn't having no more kids in a cascad literally

920
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: like right. And as I was saying it, by the

921
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: time Cairo and Catz came, Kadeen wasn't doing um makeup

922
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: as much anymore because social media started to pop for us.

923
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, you don't got to do makeup.

924
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: Take care of the kids. May take care of yourself,

925
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: be at home till take care of me. Yes. At

926
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: that time we were making That's when we first started

927
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: with the Noora Twe was a couple of months old.

928
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen was when I met de Nora. We made

929
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: about four hundred, okay, because of the commercials and everything.

930
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Two thousand nineteen was when I made my first million dollars.

931
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: So think about that. Two thousand and nine, we retired,

932
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: came back, moved back to Brooklyn Broke. In ten years,

933
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: I made my first million dollars at Die Booked Sisters.

934
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: We were doing social media. That was the first year,

935
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen, I made my first million dollars

936
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: and then it's been up ever since with the up comes.

937
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: For example, twenty twenty three, here we are in real life,

938
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: present time, just had a book tour and our podcast

939
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: tour and we were like how much feeling broke again

940
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: literally feeling broke, No serious feeling broke, because when you

941
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: have a company, many expenses. I'm like cringing every time.

942
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: When you have a company, you you become like an economy, yes,

943
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: and you're responsible for a tam of people's livelihoods. And

944
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: one thing I do, I never want to be in

945
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: a position where I got to tell my employees I

946
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: can't pay you, right, So when I make a large

947
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: sum of money, the first place that money goes is

948
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: to my children's well being. First. We have a wealth

949
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: home wealth management team that's all set up. But then

950
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: it's the solvency team for the company. When you spit

951
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: money aside for like the gym rent and the house rent. Yeah,

952
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: now it's putting money aside for the folks that work. Yes,

953
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: this is for employee salaries. It's got to be coming

954
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: for the years they got to get paid for. And

955
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing when an entrepreneur, your employees always

956
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: have to get paid first. So we put all that

957
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: money aside first, and then Codeine and I now have

958
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: we right ourselves a salary for the year, and those

959
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: salaries for the year pay out whatever we make it work.

960
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: I spoke to our financial in at the top of

961
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: the year. I spoke to our financial because we've debound

962
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: night we have a collective meeting with him, and then

963
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: we have individual meetings and stuff, so we're planning out

964
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: budgets and whatnot. So since I normally purchased everything for

965
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: the household. I know about the house builds, all that stuff.

966
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, kay, So do you need more

967
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: money in your you know, monthly salary? Do you need

968
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, weekly salary? Do you need more? I was like, no,

969
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: don't give me no more money because I've been doing

970
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: a great job of saving money. I've been doing a

971
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: good job. I have no complaints. Yeah, because I've learned

972
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: the hard way over the past twenty years. I said,

973
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: I was not the financially savvy one, and I've made

974
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, and I've put this meet through

975
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot of stress when it came to finances because

976
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: it was almost like you had to teach me how

977
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 1: to learn together. We learned together. And that's also too,

978
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I think a real life thing that a lot of

979
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: couples deal with. It's it doesn't matter who's the breadwinner

980
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: quote unquote, or it's just how finances are managed. You'll

981
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: be a big stress factor. So Sean said to me,

982
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, do you need any more? I said, Sean,

983
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: don't give me the warning. Okay, put that money into

984
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: the savings, put the money into my children, do what

985
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: you gotta do with it, but don't give it to me. Yeah,

986
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, um, I just don't want to see it

987
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: to know that it's there. I'd rather it's one of

988
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: those things where you don't you take your savings out,

989
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: but at the time before your paycheck comes to your account,

990
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: let me know what I have to play with. That's

991
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: all I want to know. And the good thing is

992
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: we've been through all of those tough times. So if

993
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: we lost money and be like, hey, we've been here before, no,

994
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel that may be one of

995
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: my my like big deepest fears. It's to follow myself

996
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: back to where we were because we worked so hard

997
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: to We worked a decade to get to get back

998
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: to where we are. And I just want to be

999
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: clear to you. When you watch somebody and you like

1000
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: when they make so much money, please consider the amount

1001
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: of expenses they have to make that money. Make money, right,

1002
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: That's why I said, Kadina, and not make way more

1003
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: money now than we made before. But we still feel

1004
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: broken times because we are constantly investing in ourselves and

1005
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: in our company to make sure that we can always

1006
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: make money. Right. Your assets are not only defined by

1007
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: how much money you have in your cash account. Your

1008
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: assets are also defined no now your assets. Your value

1009
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: is also defined by the asset you have, whether it's

1010
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: property and the solvency in your business. So there you go.

1011
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and pay some bills now we

1012
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: talk about money, listen. I hope that helps too. And

1013
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: we're also going to have a financial advisor on our

1014
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: financial advisor on in a later episode, just to go

1015
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: over some more details, more detailed stuff, because I mean,

1016
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: finance is so so many different routes that we can

1017
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: take to talk about it, but at least we want

1018
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: them to let y'all know how we over here trying

1019
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: to make things and how we building, how we continuously building.

1020
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: We're not gonna stop building. We comfortable, but we're not.

1021
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: We're not settled in now for sure. All Right, y'all,

1022
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: we'll be back. All right, we're back in this time

1023
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: for our listener litteral portion. Let's see what y'all got

1024
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: to talk about today. All right, do you want to

1025
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: go first, pay or shy? I'll go first. Okay. I'm

1026
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: thirty and this is my first serious, healthy relationship. Six

1027
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: months before getting with my new boyfriend, I was in

1028
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: an emotionally abusive relationship. Before that, I was always single.

1029
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: But wanting a relationship. I never got the commitment I

1030
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: wanted from the guys I dated, so I spent most

1031
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: of my twenties juggling multiple men. Some I would date

1032
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: and some would be friends with benefits. On top of that,

1033
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: the guys I did date tended to be emotionally unavailable

1034
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: or didn't treat me the best, which is why when

1035
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: I met my boyfriend, I took that as an opportunity

1036
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: to try to date someone different who could actually be

1037
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: good for me. But my boyfriend is about a year

1038
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: younger than me and it's never been in a serious

1039
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: relation before. He grew up as a devout Catholic and

1040
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: is a bit of a mama's boy. But he's a gentleman,

1041
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: loving kind, he lays down the pipe. It's a man

1042
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: of God that always matters, don't it. But because he

1043
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: wasn't what I was used to being with, meaning some

1044
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: of his immature ways or him running to his mom,

1045
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: it drove me to It drove me to get validation

1046
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: from other men. About a month ago, he found text

1047
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: messages on my phone where I was texting other guys.

1048
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: It broke his heart and I felt devastated. I truly

1049
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: love him and never wanted to hurt him. However, in

1050
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: a weird way, I feel like it's help strengthen our

1051
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: relationship because we've talked in great detail why I did

1052
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: what I did and now and how I can grow

1053
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: individually to be better in this relationship. I do also

1054
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: believe that since I was the one who did wrong,

1055
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: I have to answer my questions or concerns he may

1056
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: have regarding what he filed in my phone or the

1057
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: things surrounding our previous relationship, our previous issues. But I'm

1058
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: tired of the questions. I'm trying to show him how

1059
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm proving, how I'm improving, and how I won't do

1060
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: what I did before again. But instead of watching, he

1061
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: asked a millions questions and can be relentless. I get it.

1062
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a turn off. I get that too. It's

1063
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: never been with a man who I've never been with

1064
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: a man who asked so many questions and doesn't know

1065
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: how to just sit back and watch before asking you.

1066
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: See how you see how this happens? See how what happens.

1067
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Women ask for vulnerability, They ask you to be honest,

1068
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: But then when you start asking questions and start acting

1069
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: like a woman, They say, won't you be a man

1070
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: and shut up and just watch you ask them too

1071
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: many questions. I do believe he's the one for me

1072
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: because of how we work together and love one another.

1073
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: But I'm ready to get on the other side of

1074
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: this hump. I know you all discussed your indiscretions early

1075
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: in your marriage. How long did it take to get

1076
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: on the other side of truly trusting and having faith

1077
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: in the relationship again? Sometimes I feel like we need

1078
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: a break in order to get over our hump. Sometimes

1079
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: it breaks necessary. We had to have those moments too,

1080
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: You and I where just like, shoot, we don't even

1081
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: know if we want to be here right now in

1082
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: this moment, And sometimes, like you said, the break is necessary.

1083
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: How long have they been together? It doesn't say how

1084
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: long they've been together. It's a six months before getting

1085
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: with my new boyfriend boyfriend. It doesn't say how long

1086
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: they've been together. That I mean, you can't do something

1087
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: wrong to somebody and then put a time frame on

1088
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: when they should get over it. There you go. Do

1089
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? That's like to be fair, Um,

1090
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: you may be over it or you may be wanting

1091
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: to get over it. Because you were the one in

1092
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: the position of a transgression. I would say, right, um,

1093
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: so you feel like the constant reminder is making it

1094
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: that much worse. And then part two, it is because

1095
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: you have to own up to the responsibility of what

1096
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: you did. But nobody also too wants to relive hell

1097
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: every day. I was going to say too once he

1098
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: makes a decision that he's going to get over it, right,

1099
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: and he has to work towards that, Like, you can't

1100
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: just keep rehashing stuff because and a lot of times

1101
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what the world is. People like to

1102
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: be in that that space of you did me wrong

1103
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: because they feel empowering, like they can hold it up,

1104
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: own me. You know what I'm saying, You own me. No,

1105
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: remember you did this. He has to let that go.

1106
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: If he chooses to be with to her, he has

1107
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: to also find time to give her grace, right, you

1108
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and move on. If you're gonna

1109
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: keep holding on and making her relive it over and

1110
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: over again, that's a form of manipulation. Decide that you're

1111
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: going to move on and actively work to move on, right.

1112
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: But but also her saying she's used to guys and this.

1113
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: Remember we talked about this and other listener letter. I'm

1114
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: not used to this type of guy. This guy is nice,

1115
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: he's sweet, he's careful, you know, but he also likes

1116
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: to ask questions and talk. I'm used to guys. So

1117
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: now you're gonna say you're used to the same toxic

1118
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: guys that you're running fright, But now you're you're saying

1119
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't measure up to those guys. So you ran

1120
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: back to one of those guys because this guy was

1121
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: so nice and sweet, but he's a mama's boy. It's like,

1122
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: if you keep chasing after fun boys, you're gonna keep

1123
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: getting fun boys. And then when you get a guy

1124
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: who's nice and you compare them to the fuck boys

1125
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: and you tell him he doesn't match up to the

1126
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: fun boys, you're gonna end up turning him into a

1127
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: fun boy and he's gonna do something fucked up to you. Right. So,

1128
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: and then you're like, I don't understand why keep attracting

1129
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: these boys? Right? But I think that she still you know,

1130
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: she just turned thirty. She's still relatively young, right, you

1131
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: should be a lot more mature at thirty and understand

1132
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: what you don't like. But you still have time to grow, right. Um.

1133
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: The fact that she was honest with him and told

1134
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: him the truth and the fact that she's still working

1135
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: towards it is important for sure. You know. They just

1136
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: have to find the strength to say, you know what,

1137
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to let this go and I'm moving on

1138
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: all right now. Hope that helps us. Good luck to you.

1139
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: And here's our second list of letters. So here's my story.

1140
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Me and this guy have been on and off for

1141
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: eight years, but within those eight years he got two

1142
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: kids and got married and still wants to be with me.

1143
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: What they don't we re read that me and this

1144
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: guy have been on and off for eight years, but

1145
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: within those eight years he got two kids. Ain't got mad?

1146
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: She could have said, was to make this clear? Was

1147
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: hair's my story. I'm a side chick. Next, it's giving

1148
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: sighty vibes. I'm also relationship that has been long distance

1149
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: for six years. Okay, so what are y'all doing? Yeah,

1150
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: what's happening? It's giving entanglement. Every time I tried to

1151
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: leave him alone, I just end up back in his

1152
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: arms because of so much time invested in those eight years.

1153
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: He spends more time with me than with his family,

1154
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: and I always ask him what are we doing? She's delirious.

1155
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: We want to know what you're doing. He never gives

1156
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: me a straight answer because you were, And I feel

1157
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: like I'm stuck and don't know how to leave him. Girl. Wow,

1158
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: somebody gonna tell him he is not leaving his wife

1159
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: due to the fact that he doesn't want to jeopardize

1160
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: his relationship with his kids. And I would like to

1161
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: have kids and have my own family, but I don't

1162
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen, not with him. What should

1163
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: I do? Girl? You just answered all your questions right there.

1164
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: This is crazy, bro, Girl, this is crazy right, and

1165
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: I want girl, I know people on the outside right cold,

1166
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: Come on, now, come on, Henny, we know what time

1167
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: it is. She know what time it is too. She's

1168
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: just in denial. But there are two wrong parties here right.

1169
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Clearly she wrong because she's still having sexual intercourse to

1170
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: this man and he's married. She got a whole relationship,

1171
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: so she's she's wrong for that, But he's wrong because

1172
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: he's not telling her the truth. Yo, dude, just be like, listen, listen, mam, listen, mam.

1173
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: You are not my main joint, right I have a

1174
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: wife and kids. We are never ever, ever gonna be married. Now.

1175
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: The only reason why she feels like this, you know, honestly,

1176
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: is because he's selling to her the idea that at

1177
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: some point they're going to be together forever. That's not

1178
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: going to ever happen. That man is never leaving his kids,

1179
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: he is not leaving his wife. I don't know what

1180
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: him and his wife's situation is, because we know through

1181
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: other friends that there have been situations where husbands and

1182
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: wives have not been on good terms. And maybe, like

1183
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: you do you, I'm gonna do, they have an arrangement.

1184
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: So we don't know what his family arrangement is. And

1185
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge him because I don't know him,

1186
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: but I do know that what he's doing to her

1187
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: and not letting her know the truth is fucked up.

1188
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: He got to tell her, like, listen, we have a

1189
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: good time, we have fun. I'm never leaving my wife.

1190
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm never leaving my kids. That's a fact. Stop telling

1191
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: this woman you love her. I mean, he may love her,

1192
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: he may love you know, but he got to stop

1193
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: selling to her the fact that they might be together.

1194
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: That's the messed up part. Girl, you're putting off having

1195
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: kids and having your own family, your relationship because why

1196
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: like he's doing exactly what it is you would like

1197
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: to do eventually in life, and it's prohibiting you from that,

1198
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: and they might really have feelings for each other. It

1199
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: to you, girl, Yeah, you sick and ain't that's messed up, bro,

1200
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: Because she wrote she wrote in here like she was

1201
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: like she like she in love with this man. She

1202
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: loved with this man. And what y'all have is probably

1203
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: that fun like oh rendezvous like yours, escape from whatever

1204
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: home situation he got going on. And you know, you

1205
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: know what, feel bad for her long distance boyfriend. I

1206
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: feel bad for him too, Len, he over there probably

1207
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: being a saint. He got a girl to love him, mean,

1208
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: while this girl over there loving for somebody else's husband. Listen,

1209
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: that's it's a whole movie, right, This could be a

1210
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: whole movie because she wants to have her own kids

1211
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: and her own family. How about a homeboy? You in

1212
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship? And I wish I never met

1213
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: her at all, even though I love her so and

1214
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: she's got love for me, but she still be love

1215
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: to someone else. I wish my bad trouble that's my

1216
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: son though, carry Carr. Good God. All right, y'all, side,

1217
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: don't get my past. All you're missing is the sweater. Yeah, sweater.

1218
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: If you like to be featured as one of our

1219
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: listener letters, y'all be sure to email us at dead

1220
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: asad Advice at gmail dot com. Is that Carl Thomas

1221
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: who's saying that song? That's not called Thomas? That wasn't

1222
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas. No, I wish I never met her. No,

1223
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: that is Carled Thomas. That's oh I thought it was

1224
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: what's his name? The other dude? No, not case Sting.

1225
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: There's another dude that sings um donel Jones. No I

1226
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: thought it was Donald Jones. Donel Jones sings shut you

1227
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: gotta a zone? Oh you right? Damn sure. We've been

1228
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: talking girl. What you're gonna do with me? To go

1229
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: to best three? Gird? What's that's a bomb song? It's

1230
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: on my playlist too, What you do? What we're gonna

1231
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: do is I give him the moment, the truth, my

1232
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: bad one. That's d E A D A S S

1233
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: A d V I C E at gmail dot bro.

1234
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: We scart of bring this fuck today? All right, y'all, um,

1235
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: moment of truth. Time. We're talking money. We're talking making money,

1236
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: spending more money. Uh, spending money to make money? The

1237
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: effects of making money about a simple moment of truth?

1238
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: Tell us what it is. The two most important commodities

1239
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: in building a business is capital in time. Build as

1240
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: much capital as you can and give yourself time. It

1241
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: took us ten years. When you make a plan for

1242
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: your business, make a ten year plan. M M Dane,

1243
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing electric slodowing. What's my moment of truth, y'all? Uh,

1244
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,479
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Okay, I'm at a loss today.

1245
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: I got all distracted by the second karaoke guitar or

1246
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: whatnot that. But I will say, Um, what made me,

1247
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: I guess, confident enough in the moment to be able

1248
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: to step back from a full time job and invest

1249
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: in myself was two things. Being confident in my craft

1250
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: and my ability to be an expert in the field

1251
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: that I was in. Knowing that there was a need

1252
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: and a market for people who wanted my service at

1253
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: an exclusive level too, Because when you have the exclusive level,

1254
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: for example, go into someone's home to provide a service

1255
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: that comes at a premium. So knowing that the services

1256
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: you provide and exclusively at people's homes makeup service. Full beats,

1257
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: full beats, all right, But knowing that I had that

1258
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: to offer was probably the biggest flex for me to

1259
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: be able to say, you know what, I can step

1260
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: away from this. But also having a partner in that,

1261
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're fortunate enough to have a partner, whether

1262
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: it's your romantic partner who can now double down as

1263
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: your business partner, or it's just a business partner in general,

1264
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: having that support can really be paramount because there are

1265
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: things that may slip through the crack that you don't

1266
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 1: quite see that another fresh pair of eyes can see.

1267
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: So if you have someone that you trust, that you

1268
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: and lean on while the process is happening, because it

1269
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: can be a very lonely and daunting and stressful process,

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