WEBVTT - Episode 209 “First Round 2020” 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.840 And his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.239 He's agreed, is your boy in the r He's a 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.200 Miami hippop pioneer US d J e f N. Together 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.279 they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.920 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one sorts 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.720 for drunk Factory Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. Every day is 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.559 New year Z. That's time for drink Champs. Trick up, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:45.280 motherfuck motherfuck what a good being hopefully for the ship 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.080 BTC your boy in Oh and what up is d 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.840 J e f N and his Drink Chess motherfucking militated 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.040 crazy brol motherfucking some ship. I don't even know what 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:01.560 it is. When we are here right now, I want 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.880 to introduce one of the most genuine people I know 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.640 and right now when it comes to legends, when it 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.600 comes to people that are kings in our community, if 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.160 you put these guys together, you might get Rihanna. If 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.200 you get one of the DJs. The DJ is one 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.399 of the first DJ to break Rihanna not only a 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.759 part of discoverning them and one of the first people 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.760 not in Miami I ever heard Rick Ross before in 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.800 my life was on Hot ninety seven and this man 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.640 played this. This man has headphones, he got speakers, he 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:37.120 got wallets, he got glasses, he got oxygen, he got oxygen. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.400 He gives you ambitious. He makes hustlers happy. He makes 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.400 street niggas happy. When when when street nigga see him win, 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.200 they feel like they win. If you had to get 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.600 ice out in your mouth, you had to go see him. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.200 When we talk about media rappers being media, this guy 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:59.040 had what they considered the hip hop fight. This guy 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.600 belongs everybody's mouth. Ruck Mare cannot only out wrap you. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.120 We'll get your girl her draws as Wow. I know 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.560 I know the brothers very humble. I'm gonna say this. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.200 I want to say this. When we talk about the 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.400 best rappers alive right now, this man is at this table. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.560 I knew him on his first album right now. When 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.519 it comes to journalists, these two brothers right here are 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.239 the forefront of it. One brother is a goal. The 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.919 other brothers on his way to be a goal. One 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.520 brother has been in every magazine from EGO, Trip to 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.120 five to the X Excel to the Source. The other 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.120 brother has just landed a multiple Monkey foot Job and MTV, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.360 and he's pushing the culture. People don't cash money records, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.639 your money records and don't limit records. God damn it. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:54.400 The one and only. I think he was like the 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.480 first is like like like R and B gangster singer, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.480 like it was, who's going on? He said, Look, I 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.640 wasn't ready here, wasn't read. What is that you still 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.240 that your brought up to yourself? Little too? Oh yeah, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.079 I'm my sights motherfucker's sound. We'll be calling out my 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:30.040 fishing motherfucker's mother. Hold me, Floyd May, Molly, you don't move, Bunny, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:41.160 jesus me drink chasm. Let's make some noise for Tory mother. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:50.080 I'll to my bus zero makes you beat down all 0:03:50.200 --> 0:04:02.320 your money? Now now currency, who shall make up three 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:08.360 champs alumni? See, we don't know if you know currency, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.560 but our show is about bigging up our legends. So 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.320 many people when you get ten years in this game, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.080 they want to tell you that you're washed up. I 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.800 want to tell you, but not over here. We want 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.440 we tell you you have ten years and more that 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.880 your season, that we understand who you are and we're 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.640 gonna pick you off. Because in every other culture, in 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.800 every other culture, their motherfucking praise you when you get old, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.200 and ours the only culture that when we get older, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.520 it's not even a word called washed up. In fucking 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.200 rocking bro, they don't even have sure you know what 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:43.880 I'm saying. So we're gonna celebrate you tonight. We celebrate who, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:48.440 We celebrate nis careers. Here you are not only my friend, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:54.000 but your motherfucking legend. Here, you still as the times, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.920 you still vibe and you stood there through the good, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.280 the bad, the worst, and you are the definition of 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.080 a loyal nigga. I'm gonna tell your story, tell a 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:17.559 story that speak your notes right there. Oh my god. Again, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.520 we like to celebrate our people's careers. There's so many 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.640 people in this leafe that every time you got ten 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.360 years and more in this game, they want to say 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.400 you walk up, they want to say you're old for you, 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.520 they want to say you've done but he had drink chance. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.680 We celebrate your life, We celebrate your career, we celebrate 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.200 your accolades, we celebrate what you do. We celebrate you 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.680 being six seven niggas in one movie. And this is 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:42.040 what we're gonna do. Goddam well, A Little, We celebrate you. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.000 We celebrate you by cell pig on your living, killing you, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:54.040 making you old because we trate you. That was terrible. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:06:01.600 That's her ain't so bad. I want you to That's 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.760 why we set up this format because we want to 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.600 get people their flowers while they hip and wanted that 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.039 people to know and we appreciate it. Like I really 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.080 look at hip hop like superheroes, like I can really 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.080 live off for hip hop, like for real, like for real, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.279 Like I'm one of those guys, like I've really probably 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.440 never listened to a whole other genre of album, Like 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.920 you know what I mean, because I'm not I'm that insane. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.359 But I want you to know that that I nor 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.800 because I'm alive, You're gonna keep hip hop alive. You 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:42.440 know what I'm saying. Ah, yes, you've seen that bad. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:47.960 You're Jamaica, Jamaica. You know this is a room staring 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.360 the whole of Little but he's held down the whole 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.480 label then had a whole career. I feel like he's 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.280 like the hip hop Michael Jackson, Like I'm you doing 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.880 in the most respectful way, Like you know, Michael had 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.120 three different careers like a child star, then the middle star, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.040 grown man star. I feel like this is a lot 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.520 of In case you don't know what, By the way, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.480 went platinum in a week twice on Nicks like the 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.760 first time. First thing I know, they went platform in 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.840 a week, Holy Mom only and represents for hip hop. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.760 In case your howl long is, I got so much accolades, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.560 I'm gonna keep telling that this is one of the 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.920 most genuine people I've ever met. If Rain tell you 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.920 he's gonna do something, he's gonna do it, and he's 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.240 always had and I just want to pick him up 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:43.520 to his face, makes him up their motherfucking dot gonna 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.440 because first those we want to thank you for. When 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.680 you went on the show and they talked about the show, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.680 you said drink chaps, you addressed us and a drink chat. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.680 I appreciate that, but let's move on. It was it 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.240 was some white people ship. I thought he was gonna 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.640 avoid us. He's gonna say, yeah, yeah, I're gonna say 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 my homeble a show. I'm getting little high right now, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.160 but no one isn't even smoking. Yeah I think not smoking. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.880 And don't worry. He started fight on the mouth the 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.560 mouth of the station. See you are in the house, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:21.560 I said on man the whole coroner for me. But 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:37.880 that's that's the fucking out of corners working. Just need time, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:48.600 just that should go. So my jersey has hung up 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.120 to me every stadium all around the world, every stadium 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.200 in every stadium of that of that shin rub ship. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:02.200 I mind you, I should have a jersey. I've been 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.000 a person who followed your career from the beginning, and 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.160 let's take it from the Olympics. Olympics is the time 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.160 that I feel like it created the monster that you 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.559 are because I feel like you you whipped the guy 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.679 in the Olympics. You tore him down, and then they 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.800 gave him the decision that was your only like time correct, Well, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.719 we know we're want to drink drink champs, so I 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:28.000 mustn't have a drink first. Um. You know. Far as 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:32.559 the Olympics, UM, I felt like it was a learning 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.640 experience from me, you know, small learning experience. UM. At 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.760 that particular time in ninety six, I was very very 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:44.920 upset upset. Wow. UM. I cried about it, why, you know, 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.439 by myself at that time right a nineteen you know, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.240 I cried about it. I cried. I cried about it 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.480 by myself because my dad was in prison and that's 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.880 the one that taught me everything. So I cried about it. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.559 You know, it was nothing. I feel like it was 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:05.199 a a learning experience. The origin of the source, so 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.480 like the beginning the genes. Okay, all right, um so 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.560 everybody knows that the source started. Um in Boston, Dave 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.719 May's went to Harvard. I met Dave. I was in 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.760 a group called the Almighty Arvars. So go on my 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.679 street thing. You didn't go to Harvard though, clear I 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:27.400 lived around the corner from Harvard Street. That Harvard and 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.840 Washington was four corners, so I had a little something 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.840 to do with Harvard. But school so so and then 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:40.360 um ours before the source, yeah, and already managed by 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.880 Flavor Union. Um No, that came after. But I think 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.319 the Harvards so got established in eighty five, and the 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.439 Ovius was probably like eighty four maybe three, you know, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.160 I say, yeah, yeah, like we feel as long as 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.400 I knew you, I didn't know that. I thought the 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.520 source came was so and then actually Dave the first 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.199 time we met that. How we met Dave was we 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.240 was at a radio station that went that Wendy Williams 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.800 graduated from Emerson College, like all the there's a lot 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.719 of Yeah in Boston, Emerson College is where everybody went 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.280 to college to be a radio DJ or whatever. Yeah, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.120 I think Stephen Hill went to things. A few people 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.560 went there. Um, so they would do this thing where 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.600 um it was it was like what do you call 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.560 those things when people pick up the phone and they 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.600 get money for you telemarket and so people were there 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.800 telemarketing getting money, trying to raise it for the station. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.679 And Dave and Dave came down. We wish the all 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.679 Souls down there performing live, and Dave came down the 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.800 interview that that was the first time ever there was 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.400 no Source, not you boy, he interviewed us. He wanted 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.800 to come meet us because he had his own radio 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.959 show at Harmon And that's how the Source started. Is 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:53.839 in Toronto specifically, Yeah, well like when it comes from 0:11:55.080 --> 0:12:00.920 from But it's crazy because they showed Like I told 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.800 my publicist, like I don't care. I know we're gonna 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.000 do the breakfast club and all the other shop but 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:12.280 I have to do dreams. Honestly, I told us, if 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.199 we gotta do this, my favorite ship was Focusing. No, No, 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.120 I want to I've been focused later because I but now, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.360 this is not an overnight thing for y'all, Like a 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.679 lot of people might see you be dot on uh 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.040 MTV or see you know Elliott on the Crown episode 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.760 and see he pulled off for Nicki Minaj to see 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.400 pulled off for Ross and people thinking that this is, like, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.439 you know, just some overnight thing. I want to I 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.600 want to describe it from the beginning for both of y'all, 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.679 you know, whichever way you want to take it, from 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.760 the beginning, how did you fall in love with hip 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.360 hop man and get involved with journalist? You know from 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.840 Queen's right. So it's always been part of been part 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.319 of where we at, you know what I'm saying. So 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.000 I just fell in love with listening to people like 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:04.679 yourself not that good? I agree, man, I agree. So 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.280 listening listening to the greats. And when I went to college, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.360 I realized I get a check off of it. What college? 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.319 I went to, Delaware State University. I remember you performed it, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.160 but I didn't come. I never say that. I just 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.800 about to say this performing and was like, YO, say 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:26.160 it's hot, jail get it. I definitely remember that the 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:33.360 girls are easy. You're married down. So so how about you, um, um, Elliott, 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.120 you've been a little bit more season in the game. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.439 We'll same thing. Growing up in Queen Run dmc L 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.120 like those were like the blueprint, like you know, loving 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.559 hip hop and then you know, probably first seeing the 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.280 source that you could like have a magazine it then 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.520 the first time you wanted to like because you know, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.920 because because being a fan of the culture and because 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.960 you know, a lot of people can watch basketball. There's 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.040 not a lot of people who can cover basketball, you 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.839 know what I'm saying. So you know, it started was 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.400 sports with me. My father wanted me to be a 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.000 baseball player because he is dream was to play baseball. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.959 So he actually wanted to name me Roberto Clemented. You 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:12.719 could have been Roberto you know this black and my 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.640 mom is Ecuadorian and green, just like he said. Elliot 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.920 Wilson Jr. Like I was in Franks And so I 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.000 grew up playing sports a lot of baseball growing up. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.400 And then by the time I got fifteen sixty and 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.320 I was like, I'm not good enough to like go pro, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.440 Like I'm good, but I ain't outstanding and ship. Um, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.480 so I looked at sports writing, remember, like going Wanner Wolf. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.040 Let's go to the video tape and how Yeah. I 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.640 got attracted to that. I was like, oh, maybe I 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.200 could do that, could be a sports report, I could 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.520 be a sports writer. Um. And then when you know, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.280 I started losing more interest in sports. The music and 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.760 seeing that the music could be documented, you know, just 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.280 excited me. And I was like, that really was my 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.840 only career goal. I told you only my first career 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.880 goal was to be music out of the source. Well, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.320 I wanted to be I wanted to get all the 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.160 albums before anybody else got the albums, and I wanted 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.640 to give the mix out. That's my only dream. So 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.600 the so the social was already copping prior to you. Yes, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.280 okay I didn't, but they were. They weren't as big 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.240 as I thought they were. But but at the time, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.040 because I had Ego Trip, I had an independent thing 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:16.000 going on with Jenkings. Yeah, so we didn't we thought 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.280 the source. Once they got national, they were so far ahead, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.520 you know, and I was and again I just fell 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.040 in love, I thot because it was the first like 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.200 I want again. I wanted that position. I saw Reginald C. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.160 Dennis with the shades and like the whole thing of 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.200 like getting access to the music. That's the whole thing 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.880 about the streaming era. All fans not get all this 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.160 access to the music. Whatever DSP they signed up to. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.800 And you know it was like Nory, I got you 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.800 remember when your album was rolling out? Your album, so 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.920 album they sent like a four tracks, yeah, and so 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.040 I hadn't even before that because I was just sent 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.880 it to the lab, to the pub, but this department 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.120 sent it to the magazine. So at n R I 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.440 think I had Body of the Trunk, I believe. So 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.600 I had Body of the Trunk, had super Dog. Yeah, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.680 Like this is amazing, Like this is like Dory, Like 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.040 like I want to take it from the beginning because 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.000 obviously all of y'all are from this like the switcher 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.920 house movement, right, So in the beginning, because um, I 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.960 heard you used to write uh pepsie letters and things 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.560 like that. But in the beginning, how did you get started? 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.080 How how did you find your love for the music? 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.640 Me and come in and we grew up together on 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.400 the same street, I know, in my whole life. We 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.400 both was introduced to hip hop around the same age 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.080 and around the same time, through the through the same era. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.080 Especially of Texas artists that inspired us, you know, because 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.000 at that time there wasn't if we look on the 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:37.960 TV or turn on the radio, there wasn't a lot 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:43.680 of people from where we're from that we're professional in music. Yeah. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.040 Even then, it was like, I when you're living in 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.720 Houston and you see, like you turn on the other 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.600 you turn on TV, whatever you see kind of like 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.720 how people treat rapp about sometimes we always kind of 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.960 felt like we got the short into this t we're 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.400 being kind of Houston like maybe being there, we're so 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.240 centrally located at the South, at the bottom of the Midwest. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.760 You know, we're in the South, but we're far west 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.400 on the South, so we're kind of removed from kind 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.440 of what goes on sometimes in Florida, Georgia. Yeah, so 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.840 it's like, you know, although we have a lot of similarities, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.040 it was like, man, you know, we suffer part of 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.080 the South, like said he said that he considered he 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.439 considered that the South like the Texas because it's different 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.359 time zone, right, right? Do you do you agree with 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.240 that statement or that just I mean personally, I never 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.840 looked at the time zone is being a reason for 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.080 where being in the South because there's plenty of people 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.680 in the Central time zone. Is you know, Chicago's the 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.480 central time zone and it ain't south, but you know, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.439 it's just it's just more the southwest. But even then, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.880 you know, California is the southwest because Texas seems so big, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.440 it feels west coast. Yeah. And the one thing that 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.600 gets lost to is it inside of Texas, we all 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.560 got our own culture. So Houston and Dallas is a 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.880 lot different. And if you add in San Antonio and Austin, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.280 all four of them places are four distinct different cultures 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.520 within Texas. Some of the stuff we do share, you know, 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.080 some of the same thing only for sound pop top 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:19.520 Well I didn't know. I like God damn it. But 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.920 as far as I remember, you was the first person 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.920 not only ever sent in Toronto, but sate from He's 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.480 from Toronto, so from Toronto. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.840 from the same right for you. So there's a there's 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.639 a lot of history and this is kind of probably 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.000 the only place where we can talk about it and 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.440 it would make sense. But before me like you gotta 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.680 he definitely have to shout out like what I call 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.200 like the Holy Trinity which is a female MC named 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:52.119 Mischi Me. So Mischi Me. She used to actually be 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.960 signed to um M C Light's father's label, First Priority, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.240 so she was on first Priority. And when you go 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.240 back and check, the lady's first video was one of 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.520 him when he saw like sweet ts them. She was 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.680 in that video. You know what I'm saying. She would 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:14.960 not like yeah, yeah, she was in that video. And 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.520 then you gotta shout out you know what I'm saying. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.280 The Dream Warriors, they were actually the first group from 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.520 Canada to go platinum into nationally, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.080 So it's wild. It's like if you do the knowledge, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.800 you know, shout out to Premier RP Guru. But like 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.960 Gangster I used to open up them, you know what 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.680 I'm saying, So, you know, shout out to Dream Wars. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.639 But then there was also another rapper named Miestro Fresh West. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.600 Miestro Fresh West, he was the first dude UM to 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.320 go platinum in Canada, Like we just celebrated the thirty 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.600 year anniversary. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, okay of him. 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.159 Well he's from Toronto as well. His name, his name 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.840 is Mike Stroke. It's wild because like he's a rapper. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.560 He's a rapper. He trust me. He listened back in 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.399 the early nineties. Yo, like we used to like bug 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.280 out because he was one of the first to you know, 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.600 be able to do collapse. I remember he started rocking 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:11.000 with like show busing them wild, started crazy, make them 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.560 up y'all. So I mean, you know, shout out to 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.720 all of them, but I mean like me, she me. Also, 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.879 if you go back and check like eight seven she 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.520 used to rock with with B D pre because she's 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:28.000 on Melody Melody. This is like rock days, like Karen 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.480 Scott La rock days. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.320 like then they got joints together and I'm site, but 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:40.680 you started with flip DJ's flipping DJs Flip I don't 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.000 smoke weeds. I don't know because when I know, what 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.399 are you talking about? And when I google your squad 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:56.240 flip squad, that was that was squad. But I thought 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.159 Flex was big dog pimples. I didn't know who was 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:05.440 lay what. I'm just so you started out with yeah, 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:09.080 I was like Flex's intern at the radio station, and 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.840 then uh, he put me in the flip squad. But 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.560 it didn't last long because then he left that the 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.400 whole system whatever and then started a big dog peball. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.800 It's great. I remember like Tip came in the studio 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.320 one time. I was in Pats work when I was 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.320 telling you that I was, uh, you know, one and 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.360 one foot out and I was working on trapa die 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:28.920 and he came to patch work was just like a 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.159 famous studio in Atlanta, and he came in. He walked in. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.440 He told me gonna come through. So he came through. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.840 He looked around. You know, I got the lounge going 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.040 at my home, is in the account money, I got 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.600 money in the vocal booth, you know everything. He came 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.520 stood around and do his whole little thing. You know 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.240 what I'm saying, he probably have. I probably had about 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.480 two million in the studio until go let me talk 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:51.879 to you for a minute. So you wanted me in 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.040 the bathroom. I'm like, fun, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.280 He's like, Yo, you know you can't do both right. 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.320 You know what I'm saying. You gotta make your choice. 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.320 You're not gonna You're not gonna get away with both 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.520 of these like something something's gonna fall. Yeah, He's like, 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.600 your talented. You gotta tell him you know what I'm saying, 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:12.520 like you can pull this off. And in my mind, 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.520 you know what I'm saying, I made a decision right 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.760 there and there and everybody that owed me when I 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.440 was in the streets, I just threw my phone away. 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.840 I didn't even called nobody for my money. I made 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.560 a decision right I went to Cold Turkey. You know 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:24.879 what I'm saying, the crazy thing I ever did in 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.679 my life, because yeah, but I knew he was right, 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.720 because I wasn't gonna walk away like that, you know 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.600 what I'm saying. But him telling me that, and I 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.800 was already thinking that just really made me go, like 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.600 You're gonna have to make a decision now or deal 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.919 with the consequence of later. And I made a decision, 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:42.680 and I walked away, and I threw my phone away 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.600 and everything I had. I gave my people their money 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.240 that I owed him, and I was done and I 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.440 walked away. That was there, like it was the best 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.920 words decision in my life, because boy with them with 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.359 the new cars was dropping and I couldn't forward. Damn 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:02.760 you forgetting Zeke is a major part started this dwell. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.800 Zeke was did before your wells, was even before we 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.440 even acquired you wells you did, I ain't a lot. 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.200 One night I had a show with dip Set and 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:15.360 Zeke said his story on Black TV, and we went 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:17.919