WEBVTT - Assessing AFC South Strength After Draft | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.720 It is Thursday, May Night. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:12.240 This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.160 to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:18.840 And now a guy. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.960 Who married his wife for her looks just not the 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.520 ones he's been getting lately. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:31.280 Brian Sexton. That's for sure, because her birthday was last weekend. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.120 Yet Mother's Days this weekend and our anniversary is the 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.159 week after. You want to talk about pressure, right, but 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.400 how do you how do you do that? 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.240 Can you bundle gifts? Listen? 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:41.800 I did last year because it was our twenty fifth 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:48.800 wedding anniversary. Happy birthday, Jen, Yeah, yeah, we went to Croatia. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:49.520 Listen. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.320 I can't do that again this year. Once is enough, everybody. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.360 Brian Sexton in for JP Shadwick. You know the dulcent 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.600 tones of Jeff Logoman. How are you? 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.400 I'm good. I'm I'm really good. And what I'm excited 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.440 about also is this time of year football is starting 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.440 to crank up a little bit. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.759 Just it just gives you the teas though, right. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.360 Yeah, yeah, that's all you know. Look, the schedule coming 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.200 out what next week I think is when the schedule's 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.520 anticipated on Wednesdays, what they're talking about a lot of 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 teams last week had their rookie men in camp. The 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.240 Jaguars Rookie Minute Camp starts tomorrow, so so yeah, it's 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.400 gonna be nice too. Also, the OTAs are going to 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:26.959 be getting started after the Rookie minutie. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.559 So how much do you get out of it? Let's 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.039 go with rookie minicamp first. Because Kai asked me on 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.039 jag Zam the other day, what do you expect to 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.440 get out of this weekend? I said nothing. 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.040 You're not going to get a ton, you know. I 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.760 think you're gonna be on the field about an hour 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.280 each day, maybe a little over an hour. And I 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.040 don't think they're going to have the numbers that they 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.520 had in the past, right, So how much do you learn? 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.200 Not a whole lot. But the one thing that you're 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.480 going to be able to do is you're gonna be 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.360 able to look at the athleticism of the players that 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.720 they've got. Beyond that, there's not a whole lot. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.680 So, I mean, I've done this a long time. I 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.800 don't know what to look for, but you look at 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.400 it through a completely different lens. So let's start with 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:06.120 we didn't. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.840 Have a rookie minicamp. By the way, when I got drafted. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:09.799 No, you just went right to training camp. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.640 Yeah, well, now we had we had a mandatory mini 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.240 camp typically every team had won. If you had a 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.880 new head coach, then you were allowed to have two 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.160 even back into that early era, but there was no 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.200 such thing as a rookie minicamp. I mean, the first 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.000 time that I met every one of my teammates was 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.119 at the mandatory mini camp, which typically was held right 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.640 at or soon after the draft. And then that we 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.520 didn't have a lot of what there is today, which 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.280 is the OTAs and those things. They didn't start until that. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.360 Came in post Jimmy Johnson. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.920 Right, he was the change, the creation of Jimmy Johnson, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.840 which he started doing it when he went to Dallas 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.040 in nineteen eighty nine. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.120 And then uh college guy coming in changing the dynamic. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.080 Trying to bring some of that college stuff into the pros. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.720 And then when he started to have success, then everybody 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.680 in the league wanted to do that, but they started 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.400 to regulate it, and then they put a app on 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.520 a number and all that kind of stuff to what 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.120 it is today. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.360 All right, So let's back up one more step before 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.400 we talk about individuals and what you might be looking at, 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.200 what do you expect from a rookie mini camp. But 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.120 remember twenty fifteen, incomes Dante Fowler, right the third pick 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.440 of the draft. He had been training, like all of 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.720 these guys training, and all you're doing is running forties 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.440 in three cone drills and explosive movements so that you 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.200 can jump high and turn fast. And he he towards 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.120 ACL in a non contact moment in a pass rush. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.520 Year and it wasn't a practice that was extremely challenging 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.960 from a conditioning standpoint. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.000 There's warm to that day, really warm. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:47.080 And totally wrong approach in my opinion, because you got 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.720 to remember that a lot of these guys that you're 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.240 bringing in right now, they were training for the Combine. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.760 They were training for all these drills with coaches. They 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.360 weren't training to do football. And so there's got to 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.720 be a little bit of a period where you'd say, hey, look, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.480 let's just get them back in the football shape and 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.360 let's not just come in and try to kick their 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.960 rear ends and say, hey, you're going in the NFL now, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.600 and anything less than being in great shade, then it's 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:13.320 not gonna work, is it. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.960 Not a tough guy sport anymore. That's the old school approach, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.960 you know, look as a caveman approach. Yes, and now 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.200 it's a scientific approach totally. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.359 It's got to be a sports science approach. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:26.840 So what are they going to get done this week? 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.920 I mean, besides stretching and getting to know each other? 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.200 What's on the to do list? If you're in charge, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:32.760 let alone, what. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.360 Dock's going to ask? You know. I had a conversation 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.120 with Trent Balky a little bit today and he used 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.680 a word a lot called the onboarding process. And if 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:47.000 you go back to the postseason analysis that they talked about, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.479 they felt like that they can do a better job 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:54.080 of that onboarding process. And so this weekend is going 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.080 to be a lot of that. A lot of the 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.760 rookies they all rolled in today, they're doing testing and 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.600 all that kind of thing, and and so over the 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.200 next couple of days it's going to be kind of 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.800 an acclamation period more than anything, or onboarding period, you know, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.000 so to speak to where you're trying to get them 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.800 in the best mindset so that over the course of 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.280 a couple of days they're going to learn a lot 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.680 of things. One learn some of the scheme, learn some 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.440 of their coaches learn what they need to do between 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.000 now and the next time that they come back, and 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.320 learn what they're going to be doing in the future. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.440 So I think that that's a it's a great approach 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.080 because look, you're not gonna win any games in May, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:35.680 for God's sakes. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.640 And really, if you figure out where the bathroom is, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.560 where the cafeteria is, the short cut to the locker room, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.680 to the field, to the weight room, those sorts of things, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.320 it's probably a win, yes. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.159 And you're probably not going to have enough guys to 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.680 be able to have like a team type of practice, right, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.919 so you're more than likely going to be having some 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:01.600 type of controlled drills. And and that's fine. That's fine. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.000 There's plenty of time as you as you move into 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.599 the off season training activities, which are the OTAs or 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.360 the practice days the team has that these guys will 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.280 have plenty of time in the future to get up 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.480 to speed, so to speak. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.800 Right, and before we talk about individuals, and now I 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.200 want to get your thoughts on this. A couple of 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.640 these guys are signing today and you'll probably see the 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.839 notification at some point. The lower round guys, it's pretty 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.120 much set what each guy's going to make now with 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.480 the collective bargaining agreement the way that it is. The 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.440 high picks in the first round, those are guys where 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.160 there's some nuances to their contracts. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.359 Yeah, but everybody else, you know where it's spotted in, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.800 you know where it's at is. It shouldn't be any 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.040 problem at all for these guys getting contract signs. And 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.080 I think you're starting to see the rookies around the 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.640 National Football League. Some teams almost have their entire draft 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.200 class sign already. Yeah, at their getting red camp, which 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.880 is great. I mean why delay? And if you're a 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.960 rookie player, there's something to be said for if you 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.320 don't have a contract, you shouldn't participate in any of 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:01.520 the team activity. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.480 We're trying to remember the last holdout, true holdout. Gabert 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:11.440 was late to camp in eleven and that's the last 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.440 one in twelve. How do you remember all this stuff? Well, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.520 you know, you know me, I'm trying to remember. I 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.400 think that's the last guy that really held out. The 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:22.760 collective Barney ger has changed. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.520 Yeah, rookie, yeah, yeah, once a collective bargaining agreement changed, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:31.080 you had a rookie cap. It's very straightforward as to 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.360 what the contract should be, all right. There there was 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.080 a little bit of haggling over should the contract be guaranteed, 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.840 but then he finally realized the teams that, look, we're 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.920 not going to cut a first round pick after four 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.000 years or anyway. So I mean, just go ahead and 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.080 guarantee the whole thing. Which that's what teams are doing. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.360 That's what this team did from a very early standpoint, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.600 and that's better business than my opinion. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.760 Well, between Blaine Gabbert and Justin Blackman in twenty twelve, 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.640 you had basically the rook wage salary cap come into 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.840 play in that collective bargaining agreement and it pretty much 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.040 set the stage and it gets everybody into camp on time. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.280 The guy gotta show up. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.160 It's a good thing, all right. So I know you 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.840 and JP have probably gone through this, but I didn't 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.600 hear it. So I'm gonna ask again. You've had more 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:20.240 time to absorb the selection of Brian Thomas twenty third overall. Now, look, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.200 it was the best offensive line class I've seen in 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.720 thirty years of covering the draft. I mean it was good. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.440 Ten first round picks, right, nine first round picks. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.640 I would say a good I don't want to say great. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.200 Okay, not the best you've ever seen. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.480 I think as far as the depth of it in 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.240 the first round, it it might be one of the better. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.240 Maybe not the high end superser the high end superstars. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.760 I don't know if it's that great. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.800 If it had that guy. So I really thought this 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.480 was a great value year to pick offensive line. And 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.960 when they started backing up from seventeen, I realized they 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:57.760 weren't picking offensive line. So were you surprised that receiver 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:58.360 was the pick. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.480 No, because I didn't really know where they were going 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.360 to go. I thought maybe corner could be a possibility, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.520 and an offensive line could be a possibility. But at 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.240 the end of the day, when you're in the first round, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.439 you want to take the best player that you possibly can. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:18.200 I mean, you're talking about the elite players. There is Latham. Latham, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.760 the offensive tackle for for Alabama from Alabama, ended up 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.880 going to Tennessee. You could make the argument that he 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.440 was one of the top guys in the draft, and 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.760 he went earlier than many people thought. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.640 Because Joe All went five to Los Angeles and All. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.040 It's an interesting case study. It's going to be real 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.760 interesting to watch him. He's uh, he's got jeans. Obviously 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:44.000 he got the trades. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:45.560 You probably rushed against his dad. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.360 I did. I played against his dad. And this young 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.200 man from Notre Dame is very long in the legs 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.440 and so it's going to be interesting to watch watch him. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.200 But Latham is an effortless player from Alabama, just athletic. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.400 He's big, strong, you know, could he play left? I 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.600 think he can play left. I guess that's where they've 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.319 got him slotted to play in Tennessee. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.000 And Bill Callahan is considered one of the best offensive 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.760 line coaches in recent memory. The dad the dad, right? 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.880 The dad? Uh is the sons? I don't I don't know. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.120 If it's not Bill is. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.160 Bill is the dad. Bill is the dad who was 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.400 the head coach at Nebraska. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.400 And the son I don't know remember, I don't remember 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.560 his first name. We'll figure that out. But but the 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.280 receiver had I had Brian Thomas as the third best 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.439 receiver in the draft. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.920 Class one and two were obviously neighbors. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.160 Neighbors and Harrison and I thought that they were interchangeable. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.840 So you had Brian Thomas ahead of Roma Doon today. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.679 Yes, Wow, Odosa is a is a catch and kind 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.520 of go down guy. He's not one of those guys 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:50.240 that can get the great separation that Neighbors got or 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.760 that Neighbors is special, or that Thomas can get because 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.600 he's got great speed. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.920 I ran into Cortes Hankton, who is the offensive coordinator 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.200 l issue. I ran into him in Detroit one hundred percent, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.480 and he sought me out to say, Hey, Brian, these 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.240 are my guys, and the guy that you got might 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.680 be the most physical athletics specimen that I've ever covered. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.520 Six foot three and he runs a four three three, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.480 legitimate four three three and interesting. As part of that 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.640 conversation that I had today with Trent Balk, he said 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.959 that at the combine, they do all kinds of measurements, right, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.199 I mean you know, and in the forty yard dash 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:31.520 time they have ah, they time them or they get 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.920 a miles per hour speed in that twenty to forty 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.520 yard range. He generated the fastest speed of any player 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.600 at the combine in the twenty to forty yard range 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.199 running his forty years. And at the speed game, it's 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.120 a total speed game. But this guy's six foot three. Yeah, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.480 It's not like he's, you know, five foot eleven burner. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.080 This is a six foot three burner. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.200 Do you see a six foot three burner who's willing 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.360 to go over the middle. I don't know that they're 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.840 gonna ask him to do that as much here, but 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.040 is he a willing physical guy? 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:02.280 He's willing to do anything? 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:02.560 All right? 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:03.240 Well, that's a good sty. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.800 He's the ultimate team player. I actually got an email 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.680 from a friend of mine who was a former executive 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.960 of this football team, who's obviously a very still big fan, 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.559 and he said, have you watched the film of Thomas 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.840 where he's blocking on Jade and Daniel's eighty five yard run? 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.160 So I had to go and watch it, and he's running. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:25.960 Down the field and blocking. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.640 Yes. Good. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.160 Those are the little things that the normal, the average 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.880 fan isn't paying attention to because they're following the ball. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.040 Matters, It totally matters. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.240 You see that kind of effort a receiver. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:42.760 The interview that Cannannie Stevens had with Thomas was exceptional 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.520 because it showed how humble he was, and Conan had 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.040 some great questions and I think Ki did a great job. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.200 But what impressed me was some of his answers about 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:56.000 how that he was willing essentially to do whatever it takes, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.040 and that he's there to help the team win. You 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.720 know a lot of wide receiver come in. Is I 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.120 want the ball? Keith and Johnson, just give me the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:03.640 dang ball. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.559 Listen, dang. But I go to the draft. I get 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.120 these guys if they're there pretty quickly after their draft 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.560 and for the interview, for the party, and I'm always 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.040 interested to see their composure level. Are they way up 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.840 in the clouds? Are they calm? He was nicely balanced 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.280 between two. The energy level was high in him because 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.800 he was excited about being here, but he was calm 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.120 and relaxed, which I kind of I'm looking through that 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.720 to see how are you going to be when the 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:28.280 game has. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.800 Been did and you wonder where he gets it from. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.760 Did you see the interview with his parents? I sure did, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:33.679 I sure did. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.480 I loved it. I was right around the corner from 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.400 him at that moment. That's when Cortes is like, come 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:38.480 on over here and need everybody. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.360 That was the best. Yeah, good people. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:41.440 They really enjoyed it. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.040 So are you amazed at how far you've come or 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.080 where you've come come from? Bat Well. We came from 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:48.720 Baton Rouge. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.520 Yes, I love it. Hey, just transparent. Right here we 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.760 are and we're ready to go. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.640 The dad was asked about doing a du ball and 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.440 he's like, what's that? Yeah, and he'll be leading it. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.160 He'll be leading it. He's the kind of guy who 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.719 will be leading it. Let me ask you about the 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.160 defensive lineman in this before we take our first break. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.280 Mason Smith. He tours ACL two years ago. I kind 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.880 of liken him physically to a Jeffrey Simmons or even 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:17.440 a Chris Jones, big strong, tall, long impact kind of player. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.960 More like Jeffrey Simmons in that you're you may be 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.600 catching lightning in a bottle if he gets help. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.880 I think Jeffrey Simmons is a little bit different player. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.960 I would compare him more to an Eric Armstead or 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.760 it's a good conduct nerve, just because he's got a 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.280 little bit leaner. He's got the length the size to 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.960 go along with it. Was his production real high his 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.320 last year at LSU No because he was still trying 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.800 to find his way back from the ACL, And you 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:48.320 could tell. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.320 Trent said that at the end of his twenty twenty 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.440 three season, you started to see the guy that they 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.200 were talking about. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.120 Yeah, and I think even still at the end, you 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.280 could still tell that he was favoring it just a 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.960 little bit, but not as much earlier in the year. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.080 I mean, you watched the bulk of the film that 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.720 I watched, which was early to mid point of the year, 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.520 it was very apparent that he wasn't back completely healthy yet. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.000 So in the defensive line, coach, what do you want 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.200 from him? 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.080 I think it's going to be interesting to see where 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.120 he plays. I think he's going to be a defensive tackle. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.000 I think he could probably play both, but he could 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.960 also play a big end position for this football team. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.360 I mean, he's you know, he's similar in stature as 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.880 an Eric Armstead, you know, so, I mean, I think 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.479 those two guys can end up, you know, being interchangeable 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.480 in a lot of different ways. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.920 With Trayvon Walker up there too, who's almost that not 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:32.560 as heavy, but. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.480 Yeah, Trayvon's not that you know, he's not two hundred 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.840 and ninety bah. He's strong as an ox, right, So 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.440 it'll be interesting to see how they end up utilizing 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.160 I can tell you this, They're gonna win the Get 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.360 Off the Bus Club. I mean when they get off 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.080 the bus. I mean it's you know in high school 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.400 when you had the other team, they get off the 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.480 bus and you're just like, first, you know, the first 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.680 thing you're looking at is how big are they? You know, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.840 you have no idea how good they are, you know 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.400 from a lot of teams that you played, but you 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.200 just looked at how big they were. When these guys 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.360 get off the bus, you want them to be first 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.800 off and then your other team is going to be going, 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.200 oh my god, we're in trouble. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:16.000 One other guy, Jordan Jefferson, the defensive interior, the tackle, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.800 short hands, thirty four reps at two twenty five if 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.160 that matters. But if you're going to be a guy 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.240 on the inside, it matters. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.360 I mean that you know, look, strength matters on the inside. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.920 Big guy, strong hands, not a you know, he's not 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.680 a pass rusher, he's a he's a nose tackle, right and. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.520 He's a crusher. You want him to crush. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.240 Bounced around a little bit, you know. And and this team, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.920 I don't know what the contractual situation is with some 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.160 of the other defensive linemen that they have going forward, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.680 but you know, or the health of Devon Hamilton. Last year, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.480 he finished the year you know where it wasn't his 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.080 best year. He didn't have a normal off season, didn't 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.080 have a normal training camp, didn't have a normal in 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.880 season with the with the back end injury that he had, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.560 and so where's he had I don't know, But you know, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.359 at the end of the season, I was talking to 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.680 Miselli and him kind of both agreed that this football 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.600 team needed to get more physical, both on the offense 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.160 and the defensive lines had to be a priority, right, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.439 And they did. They did with this draft on the 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.640 defensive side of the ball and with the offensive side 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.240 of the ball. They're going to have to get better 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.880 from within. But remember now, okay, last year Cooper Hodges 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.919 was gone on the shelf because of the knee, and 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.160 then you brought in the guard from Minnesota on the trade, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.720 and Ezra ended up getting hurt because you moved in 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:41.320 the tackle against the Cleveland Browns, which I didn't like that, right, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.840 because I'm not a big fan of weakening two positions 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.720 because of one injury. Moved him out to tackle and 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.480 he got hurt and he wasn't healthy the rest of 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.440 the year. So but Ezra healthy is a really good 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.040 football player, right, but you got to have some competition 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.080 on the inside, and you had that with Morse being 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.560 brought in. Also have that with Cooper Hodges hopefully healed 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.240 back up and being able to play again. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.919 You know the problem with the show is we'll have 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.480 an hour you and I could see her talk about 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.640 this forever. Cant I get two quick answers from you? 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.240 Stay on the offensive side. Well, maybe I know you 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.360 got all you want to say. Javon Foster from a Zoo. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.320 I like him because he's got a lot of starts 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.160 under his belt. Two time captain, showed some traits of 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.639 being a really good tackle, and he played in the 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.240 in the best conference in college football. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.879 And the defensive coordinator was reportedly pounding his hand on 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.000