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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for being here with us. Lines are open eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and two A two two eight A two. About to

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Speaker 2: dive into a couple of different topics. Biden on student

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Speaker 2: get student loan relief, basically socializing the debts of certain

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Speaker 2: people to buy votes. Also, the Trump VP sweepstakes continues,

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Speaker 2: the cash cards, debit cards for illegals in New York City.

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into all of that.

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Speaker 2: And we just finished a discussion on Joe Biden's dog,

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Speaker 2: which has bitten.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four times in the White House twenty four times.

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Speaker 2: German shepherd Oh, one of our listeners text me and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: you said your dog trainer is great. Our dog trainer's

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Speaker 2: name is Tecla and her website is University offdog dot com.

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Speaker 2: She's phenomenal, phenomenal you.

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Speaker 3: I bet that website gets knocked offline. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just she's not a bad not a bad problem

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Speaker 1: for her to have necessarily, But I bet a lot

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Speaker 1: of times with advertisers on this show, the first time

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Speaker 1: they come on, we knock their site off so I

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Speaker 1: bet the Universityofdog dot Com is not usually del whatever.

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Speaker 2: The web's amazing. She does virtual virtual training. We sent

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Speaker 2: her videos because we love like Ginger. Those of you

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Speaker 2: who watch on the stream playinbuck dot com go sign

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Speaker 2: up for it. You will see occasionally I'm bending down

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Speaker 2: and dealing with something. It's usually as Ginger is pawing

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Speaker 2: out my foot to play with her or something. But

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Speaker 2: she's so much better with us leaving her than she

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Speaker 2: used to be. She had terrible separation anxiety. Dogs have

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Speaker 2: separation anxiety from her owners like baby, like a baby

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Speaker 2: that's left alone. And Tekla got us to get that

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Speaker 2: totally under control of some ingenious training stuff. So it's

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Speaker 2: University offdog dot com for her if you want to

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Speaker 2: go do that and just helping the dog owners out there.

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Speaker 2: I'd I'd never had a dog trainer before, and now

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Speaker 2: it's like I would never not have a dog trainer

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Speaker 2: as somebody was a dog.

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Speaker 3: All right, Now, let's dive.

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Speaker 2: Into the latest here with you want to do VP

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Speaker 2: or student loaned at first class?

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, yeah, okay, let's do let's do VP.

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Speaker 2: So so Trump was he was talking to Laura Ingram

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Speaker 2: about this and uh, he brought up the V or

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Speaker 2: she brought up the VP issue. And here's here's what

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Speaker 2: he said. Here's how he's thinking, at least about this

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Speaker 2: play fifteen.

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Speaker 1: What qualities are you looking for in your vice presidential pick?

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Speaker 4: Well, always, the first quality has to be somebody that

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Speaker 4: you think will be a good president, because if something

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Speaker 4: should happen, you have to have somebody that's going to

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Speaker 4: be a great present. Lot of people are talking about

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Speaker 4: that gentleman right over there. He's been so great, He's

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Speaker 4: been such a great advocate. I have to say, I don't.

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Speaker 4: This is in a very positive way. Tim's cutt He

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Speaker 4: has been much better for me than he was for himself.

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Speaker 4: I watched this campaign and he doesn't like talking about himself,

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Speaker 4: but boy does he talk about Trump. And I said,

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Speaker 4: you know, I called him. I said, Tim, you're better

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Speaker 4: for me than you were for yourself. But he's fantastic

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Speaker 4: and he's a fantastic person. Uh, I want somebody who

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Speaker 4: can step into the role. Most importantly, have to view.

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Speaker 2: That somebody who could step into the role at some level. Clay,

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Speaker 2: I think you could argue this is a lesson that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats learned. You can't think of the vice president

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Speaker 2: as just an kind of adjunct for the optics to

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, we've got a vice president who's a woman

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Speaker 2: and a minority, and therefore it's at more complete the

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Speaker 2: ticket for Democrats. It has to be if something happens,

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Speaker 2: this person can step in and do it. So that's

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Speaker 2: what he's saying, which is really the pro that has

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Speaker 2: always been support. I mean from the beginning the mission

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Speaker 2: of the VP. You saw the list. There were some

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Speaker 2: names on there that were mentioned and Trump said, yes,

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Speaker 2: In your mind? Is there a favorite right now? Is

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Speaker 2: Are you putting your money on.

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Speaker 3: Who would have?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 1: If if I were betting right now, my analysis is this,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump is going to want someone who is

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Speaker 1: I think would be the most qualified person, Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: There's also complicating factors associated with the Florida issue. Whether

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Speaker 1: did you see what Ron said?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ron said yesterday, No, no thanks, I don't

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Speaker 3: Ron was never running to VVP. You will absolutely not

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Speaker 3: take a VP job. So I think Trump's going to

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say when I just said somebody

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Speaker 3: I think there are. I think there will be one.

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Speaker 1: If I were betting right now, I think Christy Noam

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Speaker 1: I would put my money on Christy Noam. Here's a

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Speaker 1: haven't heard hardly anybody talk about this. I think Katie Britt,

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Speaker 1: that would help Trump with women. I'm just gonna say this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all know this. This isn't a knock

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Speaker 1: know the guy, right. He likes that she's pretty. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna want a pretty woman, ye know. And Christy knowam

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Speaker 2: I actually said this yesterday, and the more I think

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Speaker 2: looking for a future in corporate America and so whatever

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Speaker 2: the huge money donors want her to do she'll do

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Speaker 2: right now, which means staying in the race because she

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Speaker 2: has no chance of winning it.

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Speaker 3: We all know it. What's the point at this phase?

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Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis, to his credit, went to Iowa didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: He's like, all right, the people have spoken. I'm at

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Speaker 2: the right call, the right call, and uh, you know

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Speaker 2: the Niggi Haley thing. I don't think she's helping her

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Speaker 2: I just still think it's gonna be JD Vince.

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Speaker 3: You know, I like JD.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean when I say I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons why, but that's just my

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Speaker 2: So I don't think you know, I think that with

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Speaker 2: and also you know, best selling author, he'll Billy Elogy.

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Speaker 3: Sure many of you have read it.

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Speaker 2: It would seem to me like there's a the passing

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Speaker 2: of the baton would be obvious, and therefore there'll be

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Speaker 2: no overshadowing of Trump or attempt to overshadow Trump, because

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Speaker 2: everyone's very clear.

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Speaker 3: Whereas if you.

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Speaker 2: Bring somebody who's a little bit older and has more

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Speaker 2: national level ambitions. I mean, if you were to even

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like, clearly, if he picks JD. JD knows

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Speaker 2: that he's in the on deck circle, he's not that bad.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that I think that's important. And you

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Speaker 1: let's just run through. Bill Clinton picked Al Gore, and

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Speaker 3: George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush picked Dick Cheney, and everybody said, Okay, this guy's

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Speaker 2: They also said Dick Cheney was running the presidency though

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Speaker 2: remember correct, Dick Cheney was the stealth president. Was the

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Speaker 2: whole claim of the left for eight years, and from

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Speaker 2: what I understand it wasn't that untrue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's why I don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of frankly love for Liz Cheney, because she's ripping Trump now.

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Speaker 3: And my position would.

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Speaker 1: Be, your dad made probably the most disastrous leadership decision

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush that we had to invade Iraq, spend

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Speaker 1: And now you're gonna lecture me about threats to democracy.

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Speaker 5: gave it to this man because you met him on

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Speaker 5: the campaign trail and he liked him allegedly.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, that's good for that guy. I guess if

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Speaker 1: you meet him on the campaign trail, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: meet people. Give me fifty three million dollars out on

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Speaker 1: the campaign trail. Carol, I wanted to get your read

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Speaker 1: and again I encourage everybody to go check out Carol

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Speaker 1: marco It's podcast as part of the Clay and buck

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Speaker 1: podcast network story came out from Sienna. We've had this

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Speaker 1: conversation with you. You're from New York, originally relocated to Florida,

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Speaker 1: like Buck, Jewish voters in the state of New York

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Speaker 1: fifty three to forty four that CNN polls said that

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Speaker 1: they were supporting Trump over Biden. Now, as Buckets pointed

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Speaker 1: out and we talked about, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: Orthodox New York Jews who tend to be more conservative.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's not representative of the Jewish population nationwide. But

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Speaker 1: when you saw that in the wake of October seventh,

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Speaker 1: you know, they tried to say Trump is Hitler, Trump

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Speaker 1: is a Nazi for seven years, eight years. Now, are

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Speaker 1: you feeling Jewish voters moving? Do you think that's representative

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Speaker 1: of maybe the Jewish electorate being up for grabs in

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Speaker 1: a way in twenty twenty four that they never have

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Speaker 1: been before.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think the Jewish electorate has been moving rightward

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Speaker 5: for a while. It's I've written about it in the past.

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Speaker 5: Trump got i think thirty five percent of the Jewish vote.

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Speaker 5: Ron DeSantis got forty percent of the Jewish vote in

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Speaker 5: his run in Florida. It really depends where. But when

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Speaker 5: I saw that those numbers, obviously I'm taking it with

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Speaker 5: a green of salt. We don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like the campaign has begun yet where

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Speaker 5: the Democrats are going to come after Donald Trump with

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Speaker 5: everything they have. He's going to be in you know,

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Speaker 5: insurrectionists who want to destroy our democracy, and he's going

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Speaker 5: to be painted as an anti semi and all of

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Speaker 5: these things. So we'll see where these numbers really end up.

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Speaker 5: But I think Jews have been moving rightward for a while.

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Speaker 5: Of course it's the Orthodox that are leading the way

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Speaker 5: on this. It's it's the same as in non Jewish population.

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Speaker 5: If you're if you go to church, you're more likely

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Speaker 5: to vote Republican. If you if you go to synagogue,

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Speaker 5: you're more likely to vote Republican. So what's really happening

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Speaker 5: is a secular Jews, who would be the Democrats, the

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Speaker 5: Woody Allen Jews that you kind of think of when

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Speaker 5: you think of a New York Jew are really breeding

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Speaker 5: themselves out of existence. They don't. They're not having as

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Speaker 5: many children that having as many Jewish children. There's this joke,

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Speaker 5: you know, what's the difference between the secular jew and

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump he has Jewish grandchildren.

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Speaker 3: That is gat That is a great joke. Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 5: So that's where we are, and I think that we're

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Speaker 5: going to see a shift. I hope it's that big,

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Speaker 5: but I you know, I'm counting on small moves for

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Speaker 5: now and hoping A trends and writer.

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Speaker 2: You think that some of the issues Carol around around

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Speaker 2: parents and parenting stuff, and we're running the whole. We're

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Speaker 2: running the whole cyclier. We've got Carol on New York City,

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Speaker 2: on the Jewish vote, and now on mom stuff. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it seemed like such a big issue,

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Speaker 2: you know, we still see higha from libs of TikTok

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Speaker 2: doing what she does and showing the indoctrination programs ongoing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it has the left. They haven't stopped

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Speaker 2: this stuff, but are they less aggressively in our faces

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Speaker 2: about what they want to how they want to indoctrinate kids,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it feels like we're not talking about

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Speaker 2: it very much. And to me, the electorate, that's a

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Speaker 2: sixty forty maybe seventy thirty, maybe even higher issue on

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Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 5: For a lot of it it is, but I have

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Speaker 5: to say that Republicans just don't fight back in the

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Speaker 5: same way. So, for example, the porn in school libraries

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Speaker 5: conversation that should be a complete win for Republicans has

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Speaker 5: started to pull badly for us. For the of sanity

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Speaker 5: who don't want pornography in their children's school library, that's

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Speaker 5: no longer a winning issue somehow, because they've painted us

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Speaker 5: as book burners and oh, you know, if you don't

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Speaker 5: want pornographic images and you want to get rid of

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Speaker 5: you know, classics, and obviously it's all ridiculous, but there's

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Speaker 5: no real fight back, and a lot of you know,

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Speaker 5: a lot of the groups are fighting back, but I

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Speaker 5: think that the Party does not do a good job

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Speaker 5: of mounting the attacks back. I also there was a

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Speaker 5: story in pre press today about a Brooklyn's public school

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Speaker 5: in my old neighborhood of Park Slope that the parents

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Speaker 5: they had a snow day and the parents found out

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Speaker 5: that they were giving out coloring books BLM coloring books

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Speaker 5: to their kids. And they only found out because it

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Speaker 5: was a snow day and the kids were home and

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Speaker 5: they had the coloring books with them. So this is

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Speaker 5: still being pushed in all of our schools. We just

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Speaker 5: don't always know about it. Insidiousness is really a large

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Speaker 5: part of it. I wrote about this in my books

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Speaker 5: Still in Youth. It's they know that most parents will

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Speaker 5: not want their kids in doctrinated, even the far left

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Speaker 5: ones won't want it coming from the school necessarily, and

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Speaker 5: so they do it really quietly, really secretly. And parents

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Speaker 5: need to stay on top of what their kids are

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Speaker 5: getting in school, otherwise they're going to be definitely susceptible

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Speaker 5: to getting BLM color and books.

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Speaker 3: They better be careful with what those kids color the

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Speaker 3: people in the BLM coloring books, because God forbid you

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Speaker 3: mis gender or miscolor an individual in the BLM coloring book. Carol.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking. Buck and I have been a lot

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Speaker 1: and we took some calls on this. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the data, men are overwhelmingly voting. If assuming it's

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Speaker 1: Trump v Biden for Trump, right men, if only male

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Speaker 1: voters were involved, Trump would win. And I'm not even

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Speaker 1: kidding about this. Arguably Trump would win all fifty states

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Speaker 1: if only women voted, Biden might win fifty states. I

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Speaker 1: mean this, we're talking about one of the biggest gender

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Speaker 1: divides that we've ever seen. So, Carol, when you look

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Speaker 1: at this, does who Trump picks his v matter if

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Speaker 1: it's a woman.

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Speaker 3: How can Trump cut.

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Speaker 1: Into what is going to be a huge advantage for

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Speaker 1: Biden in your mind when it comes to female voters.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's so tough because, like I said, the

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Speaker 5: campaign against him has not truly begun yet, and I

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Speaker 5: think when it does, we're going to see some, you know,

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Speaker 5: serious attacks on him. I think the abortion thing is

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Speaker 5: going to be big for the suburban, you know, women voters.

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Speaker 5: But I think a lot of the comments that he's

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Speaker 5: made over the years, all of that's going to be

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Speaker 5: playing in our faces over and over again. In theory

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Speaker 5: of female vice presidential pick should maybe help, but I

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Speaker 5: don't see it necessarily being the case here because of

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Speaker 5: these liberal women are very good at compartmentalizing conservative women

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Speaker 5: into being not really women, not really the kind of

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Speaker 5: women that we want. So I don't think it Christy

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Speaker 5: Nome or at least Dephonic or whatever. I don't think

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Speaker 5: any any of these kind of left leaning suburban women

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Speaker 5: are going to look at them and say, oh, you

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Speaker 5: know that he picked a woman, therefore I'm going to

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Speaker 5: vote for him. I wonder if he picks Nikky Haley,

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Speaker 5: if he picks up more kind of Republican leaning women

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Speaker 5: who would maybe go out for him if he had

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Speaker 5: a woman as a VP, I'm not so sure. I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I think he should pick the candidate that

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Speaker 5: he thinks would be best to take over should anything happen.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what we should be doing in all

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Speaker 5: facets of our lives. Perhaps we shouldn't be doing, you know,

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Speaker 5: this demographic thing that we keep doing. We end up with,

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Speaker 5: you know, the Kamala Harrises of the world as our VP.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps we should choose based on Meret. I know that's

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Speaker 5: a that's not right.

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Speaker 2: This is a lot of wisdom, and I love all

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Speaker 2: of it, by the way, because first of all, I

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Speaker 2: totally agree with you. I don't think that we're conservatives.

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Speaker 2: So there's a problem that you've identified I keep talking

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Speaker 2: about here on the show, and it is that conservatives

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Speaker 2: don't get credit for DEI it doesn't matter. If you

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Speaker 2: have a black vice president, you're not going to win

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Speaker 2: more black votes. If you have a female vice president,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna win more. We keep doing this, and

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Speaker 2: it's a little weird because, on the one hand, conservatives

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Speaker 2: say it's about the not the color of their skin,

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Speaker 2: not their gender, not any of those things. But then

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Speaker 2: we play that game too sometimes because we think somewhat cynically, oh,

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Speaker 2: we can benefit from it as well, and we don't,

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Speaker 2: and we kind of undersell our own principle with that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like, if there's a a black female vice president

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Speaker 2: who's the best Republican for the job, it shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: because of the fact that she's a black female. It

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Speaker 2: should be because we think she's the best, so it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, right, But I think we get away from

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Speaker 2: that far too easily.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And look, you know, Republicans have picked up more

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Speaker 5: Hispanic voters in the last few years. They picked up

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Speaker 5: again more Jewish voters, they picked up more Asian voters.

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Speaker 5: And they haven't had a Hispanic presidential candidate or Asian

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Speaker 5: presidential candidate or whatever. It hasn't mattered. They they've earned

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Speaker 5: these votes in other ways, not saying like, look, I'm

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Speaker 5: going to pick a diversity higher and look, this person

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Speaker 5: you know looks like you, therefore you should vote for them.

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Speaker 5: That's just not how it works.

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Speaker 3: Ferrel.

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Speaker 1: On the way out, I think I made fun of

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Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys last time, and afterwards, you said your

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Speaker 1: son wanted to fire back at me, so on the

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Speaker 1: biggest radio show in the country, I will give you

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to allow your son to take shots at

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Speaker 1: my favorite teams.

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Speaker 3: So the fire away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so my eight year olds, I said, you know,

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Speaker 5: Clay Travis made fun of the Cowboys not being at

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, and he said, who's his team? And

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Speaker 5: I said, I think it's the Titans. And he said,

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Speaker 5: a Titans fan is making fun of us.

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Speaker 3: Which you know, it's a good response. I mean your

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Speaker 3: eight year old. I mean he dunked on me. He

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Speaker 3: dunked on me.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to give you a chance congratulate your

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Speaker 1: eight year old. I you know, there was a study

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Speaker 1: out recently, Carol. My friend Jacob Olman at Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: sent me that said that Tennessee Titans fans drink more

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Speaker 1: than any other NFL fan base. And I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I can see it. I'm guilty as charged.

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Speaker 1: We lose a lot.

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Speaker 3: on demand. Carol Great to have you here?

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, thank you.

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Speaker 3: She's always good Buck. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans fan base was as the biggest drinking

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Speaker 1: fan base in the entirety of the NFL, and I

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Speaker 1: looked at this list. My buddy Jacob Ollman sent to

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Speaker 1: me he's been at Fox Sports for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, this makes a decent.

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Speaker 3: Amount of sense. It's the Titans, It's the.

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Speaker 1: Steelers, the Colts, the Falcons, and the Saints are the

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Speaker 1: biggest drinking fan base is in America.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of Southerners on that list. So

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh people, it doesn't really surprise you, but maybe

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Speaker 1: you're tired of losing. If you're tired of losing, Have

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: you'll get Tutor Dixon. Bill Malujin shared this a couple

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Speaker 1: Internal data we've obtained. These are the numbers top ten

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Speaker 1: countries crossing into San Diego. You know, Buck, have we

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Speaker 1: talked about Guess what when they put razor wire up

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Speaker 1: into the border. It's interesting how they will adjust in

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Speaker 1: real time. Now there are a lot more people crossing

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Speaker 1: in Arizona and down into California area. Top ten countries

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Speaker 1: crossing into the San Diego sector since the fiscal year

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Speaker 1: began in October. Buck, this is crazy. Twenty eight thousand

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Speaker 1: people from Colombia, twenty one thousand people from China, Mexico,

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Speaker 1: eighteen thousand, Brazil eighty seven hundred, Ecuador seventy seven hundred,

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Speaker 1: Turkey sixty one hundred, India five thousand. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is this is crazy numbers. Buck, This is really important

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're putting these numbers out there, and

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Speaker 1: Bill Malugin is it doesn't it also show you so much.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit like what you have had in

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Speaker 2: conservative sports, where if it was market driven, not ideologically driven,

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Speaker 2: there'll be more people who are willing to compete.

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Speaker 3: But because they're ideologically no.

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Speaker 1: One competes with us, and no one competes with Bill.

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Speaker 1: You're right exactly. I mean there should be people at

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Speaker 1: every major network down the border constantly. Bill Malusian has

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Speaker 1: the space to himself because it's not about journalism, it's

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Speaker 1: not even about content that gets clicks and attention.

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Speaker 3: As this is a huge issue.

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Speaker 2: Everyone agrees immigration is like the biggest policy issue in

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 3: It's ideological.

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Speaker 2: They won't cover it, sort of like the anti or

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Speaker 2: the you know, sports communists who won't live in reality anyway.

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Speaker 2: What you see though with those numbers is it is

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Speaker 2: an open border, because for someone to come from China

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Speaker 2: to the US Mexico border, it means that they are

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Speaker 2: basically certain they're going to get in and be able

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Speaker 2: to stay in. No one's going to take that risk

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Speaker 2: if they think that they're not going to be let in.

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Speaker 2: So the market is speaking. When people say it's not

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Speaker 2: an open border, really tell that to the people who

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Speaker 2: are showing up from the other side of the world

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Speaker 2: and coming into the country illegally.

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Speaker 3: It is an open border.

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Speaker 1: And this is also so important buck about the intent

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Speaker 1: of what the people entering the country are doing. You

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Speaker 1: can still say, I think, hey, people crossing over from Mexico,

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Speaker 1: they might be coming here seasonally. Their families may still

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Speaker 1: be in Mexico. They may be here six months. They

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Speaker 1: may cross the border, they may go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: There may be a transit component to it. Colombia, China, Brazil, Ecuador, Turkey, Guinea.

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Speaker 1: I don't even five thousand people from Guinea, five thousand

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Speaker 1: people from India. These people buck can never go back home.

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Speaker 1: They're not turning around and walking back to India. They're

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Speaker 1: not turning around with walking back to China.

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Speaker 3: They're flying here. Do you get a people with a

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Speaker 3: lot of money.

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Speaker 2: And paying coyotes for the cartels thousands of dollars to

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Speaker 2: let them transit. These people are spending ten or fifteen grand.

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Speaker 2: They might be spending every dollar they have to come

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Speaker 2: to the country from the other side of the world.

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Speaker 3: This isn't an open border. What is an open border?

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Speaker 1: They're never leaving and the intent is once they get

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Speaker 1: here that they're never going to be forced out. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that in more next hour Thursday edition.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for hanging with us.

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