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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's our number two. On a Monday

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Speaker 1: playoffs Baseball playoffs Dodgers tonight, Brewers Mariners take a one

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Speaker 1: zero lead in Toronto over the Jays. Bits surprising considering

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Speaker 1: the highly emotional series the Mariners just escaped from wild

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Speaker 1: weekend to college football is in the end of the

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Speaker 1: best team in college football. Penn State fires their coach.

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Speaker 1: J Mackett was a I said in from of a

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Speaker 1: TV for a lot of the weekend, it is it's

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Speaker 1: getting to be you know, it's crazy time. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you get to the point now people are going to

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Speaker 1: start getting fired with nil and the portal. There's so

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Speaker 1: much money in college football. It would have been you

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Speaker 1: would have never considered firing a coach a year after

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Speaker 1: he won thirteen games because he lost three close games

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Speaker 1: in a row. But that's the world we live in now.

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Speaker 1: It's like prage. College football feels more pro than ever.

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Speaker 3: And he was in the semi final in overtime against

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Speaker 3: the Irish.

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Speaker 4: By the way, how did you go an.

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Speaker 3: Hour without mentioning USC's romp over Michigan?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley's waiting.

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Speaker 1: For the for the props, I will say they pushed

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Speaker 1: Michigan around. That was that is what you have to

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Speaker 1: now they have to go on the road. Leached Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame where they're like an eight point dog and should be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're built to beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Weather's getting a little chili in the Midwest. But they pushed,

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Speaker 1: they pushed Michigan around. It wasn't that they won, it

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Speaker 1: was how they won. They won in the trenches with

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Speaker 1: a third string walk on running back King Miller was unblable.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Colin Wright, Colin wrong on a Monday

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Speaker 1: where Colin was right. Well, when the Eagles started four

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Speaker 1: and oho, I said they got a coaching issue. You

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Speaker 1: can't tell me they're beat up and injured. A lot

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Speaker 1: of teams are beat up and injured. They had a

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Speaker 1: player's only meeting and aj Brown sort of denied it.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't I don't buy the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They are They're in trouble right now. They're twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: total offense. Even when they were winning, I said, this

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Speaker 1: isn't going to last. This is the drip, drip drip.

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Speaker 1: And last week we saw the Fawcet burst where Colin

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Speaker 1: was wrong firing James Franklin. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. Apparently insiders at Penn State are saying it

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Speaker 1: was untenable. But I will tell you he'd won ten

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Speaker 1: plus games in three straight seasons. Are you telling if

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Speaker 1: if he beats you cla at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: you'd keep him. It feels very reactionary to me. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're a playaway from beating Notre name last year. What

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Speaker 1: did they finish fifth in the country. But this is

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Speaker 1: the world we live in. Get rid of the coach

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Speaker 1: if there's any questions. And I just don't like the

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Speaker 1: way it looks I was wrong. I would have never

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: To Pittsburgh, Oh, MVP Baker Mayfield. Yeah, a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, I said, I think he's MVP. He's never

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Speaker 1: been this good. And again, players get better, players get worse,

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Speaker 1: they regress. Look what's happened to Justin Field. Baker is

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Speaker 1: his confidence. He's got nothing to work with. Bucky Irby,

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Abuca got hurt. I said, two

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Speaker 1: or three weeks ago, let's not get ourselves here. This

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Speaker 1: it was a poor fit. It's a bitter fan base

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Speaker 1: and an angry media poking them in the rips. Tampa's chill,

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles high IQ high EQ opening all the doors

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Speaker 1: for him every weekend. More and more. Baker's the MVP

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers four and one? Are they

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Speaker 1: Aaron right now, smartly is getting rid of the ball

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Speaker 1: tell you, with the size of his targets in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: the last seven years, and this is not the best Aaron.

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Speaker 1: This is old Aaron. This is an offense in the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks. He's got a one to twelve passer rating.

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Speaker 1: to me. Where Colin was right, I said, New England,

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL. This will be my fourth year

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Speaker 1: in a row. If I hit this after the Raiders loss,

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Speaker 1: I said, slow down between free agents and draft picks.

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Speaker 1: They're they're starting like a dozen new guys. Don't freak out.

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Speaker 1: When they lost to Pittsburgh. Guy said, let it play out.

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Speaker 1: No team is starting more new bodies. Vrabel's brilliant. Guy,

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Speaker 1: Drake May's really good. And this is one of those

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Speaker 1: things where not all opening losses are the same. Detroit's

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Speaker 1: obviously a good team. They got housed in the first game.

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Speaker 1: New England lost to the Raiders. I kept saying don't worry.

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Speaker 1: They'll figure away. They're building a culture. And we were

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Speaker 1: right where Colin was wrong. I had Dante More as

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Speaker 1: the number one pick last week. He got out played

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Speaker 1: by Fernando Mendoza and it wasn't particularly close. Couple of

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Speaker 1: particularly well, sacked six times. Listen, Indiana's really good. Indiana's

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Speaker 1: a really good football team and really well coached. But

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Speaker 1: Dante More it did not look great. Let's just be

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Speaker 1: Considering the quality of the staff and the quality of

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I said the Dolphins, I don't trust the culture

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Speaker 6: Starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys,

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Speaker 6: and then what we're expecting out of the guys. Right,

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Speaker 6: we're expecting this? Are we getting that? Are we not

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Speaker 6: getting that? We have guys showing up to only player

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of things.

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Speaker 6: Of that nature that we got to get cleaned up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, till little late three picks had the game one

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Speaker 1: toa basically saying is yeah, we don't have a culture

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Speaker 1: here of accountability. Not good.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with this. The Mariners to go

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Speaker 1: one on lead in the American League Championship Series. I

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Speaker 1: said two weeks ago. Despite having the number fifteen payroll,

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Speaker 1: they are a more balanced even team than the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: They can defend, they have good starting pitching. Right now,

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Speaker 1: opposing hitters in the playoffs are hitting a buck eighty

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Speaker 1: three on Mariners pitching. Mendoza is a great closer. They

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Speaker 1: can hit for power station to station baseball. They can

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Speaker 1: do whatever you want. It's a very complete team. You know,

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Speaker 1: cal Rawley's their star. There's no question they're not as

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Speaker 1: Yankees don't do a lot well outside of hit home runs. Mariners,

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Speaker 1: I believe will make the World Series and they'll face

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Speaker 1: the Brewers when they get there. Colin Wright Colin wrong

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, and let's go to Matt Hasselbeck, three

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Speaker 1: a Monday. I want to start with the Dolphins, which

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Speaker 1: is not the sexiest team, But when Tua calls out

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Speaker 1: as coach, it's like, Okay, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: Like this thing has gone sideways? What do you make

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously they're gonna make big changes. They

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Speaker 1: a bow on what is wrong with Miami?

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Speaker 7: Well, I thought he called out himself.

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Speaker 8: Really, I mean, you're the franchise quarterback and you're saying

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Speaker 8: an indictment on you, Like no offense. Sometimes when you're

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Speaker 8: not like an alpha personality as a quarterback, you kind

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Speaker 8: of need an alpha head coach. But if you're kind

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Speaker 8: of like a soft spoken, Hey, I'm not really that guy,

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Speaker 8: then I don't know if you can have a head

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Speaker 8: coach that really isn't that guy either. I'm just thinking

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Speaker 8: about it like that, That to me was as bad

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Speaker 8: as it gets at the podium. That's not the time.

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Speaker 8: It's not the place. Listen, no one likes the players

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Speaker 8: only meeting, but sometimes they need to happen, and it's

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Speaker 8: but that that was just a bad look all the

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Speaker 8: And uh, you know, that's a team that needs some

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Speaker 8: leadership to step up. And it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 8: the guy that gets to call the plays in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, I said them in the Kansas

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about the Ravens injuries. It

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Speaker 1: looks different. Turn the sound on your TV. Down watch

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Speaker 1: the speed. They they're not letting people over the top.

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Speaker 1: And I watched last night and they no penalties, no

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Speaker 1: turnovers in one punt, like you know what it felt like. Man,

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Speaker 1: You probably played on a veteran team at one point.

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Speaker 1: That was one of those where the veterans are like, guys,

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Speaker 1: we have to play our cleanest game of the season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, do you see and they

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Speaker 1: look different than four weeks ago? But I didn't play

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Speaker 8: I think there's a confidence that comes with having a

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Speaker 7: I think they feel really great about this offensive line.

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Speaker 8: There's also a confidence with the teams that are still

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Speaker 8: playing with their starting quarterback. And then if you're starting quarterbacks,

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Speaker 8: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game ever,

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Speaker 8: and then you've got the best offensive play caller designer

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Speaker 8: in our era and Andy Reid like literally, how are

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Speaker 8: you gonna like? That gives me confidence as a player.

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Speaker 8: That gives me confidence as a locker room and as

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Speaker 8: a defense like you got Mahomes over here running like

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Speaker 7: Like sixx young or something like, you got to defend

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Speaker 8: And so listen, as they're getting healthy, they get worthy back,

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Speaker 8: they're getting rice back. You can tell that this is

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Speaker 8: a team. There's no panic, there's no players only meetings there.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're they're three and three. The sky's not falling.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're like, hey, we're going to we're gonna

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Speaker 8: And I could promise you there last week was tough.

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Speaker 7: That's what he really probably should have been doing with

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Speaker 7: the Jets. He's doing it great. This is a nice fit.

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Speaker 7: I think everyone was wondering how the fit would be.

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Speaker 8: But just notice the next time you watch the Steelers

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Speaker 8: where that launch point is, where he's letting the ball

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Speaker 8: go from. It makes it difficult on the defense and

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Speaker 8: it protects a guy in his forties.

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Speaker 7: I'm a fan. I think they're doing great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more Chris Paul than Steph Curry. I can

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Speaker 1: hit the jumper, but I'm gonna get this ball out

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Speaker 1: because they have some unique body types. I mean, Washington

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Speaker 1: is he's six seven and a half. I mean, they've

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Speaker 1: got massive By the way, you were staff just said this,

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Speaker 1: you were five and three as a starter in your forties.

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Speaker 7: That's probably like banged out all two and banged up.

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Speaker 8: You know, that was a you know, I do think

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Speaker 8: like as a quarterback sometimes you know, sometimes when you're younger,

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Speaker 8: you don't know enough.

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Speaker 7: But I'm sure Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 8: He knows it all and he's like, man, I don't

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Speaker 8: trust this situation. You know, we got a tight end

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Speaker 8: blocking backside on a defensive end like this, ball's coming

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Speaker 8: out quick like he's been through the fire, He's learned

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Speaker 8: the mistakes.

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Speaker 7: I know that was true for me.

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Speaker 1: Great Sanior, Matt as always, Thanks Sikon all right, I

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Speaker 1: love that twenty minutes with Matt Hasselbeck and right and

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Speaker 1: Wrong one of my favorite twenty minutes of the week.

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Speaker 1: Bruce s Feldman's going to join us next hour, Albert Rereer.

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Speaker 1: The trade deadline is creeping up. The Rams could use

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Speaker 1: a corner. The Chargers could use another tackle, swing guy

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Speaker 1: that can play either way. Joe alt It will come back.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia may need a new offensive coordinator. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline helps for that. And Kansas City doesn't

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Speaker 1: need anything but Rashi Rice. Sorry. J mckinne's right around

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Speaker 1: the corner. Hey, just kind of call it as I

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Speaker 1: see it last night. That looks like a good football team.

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Speaker 4: Just stop it. What about the Niners?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: The Niners are interesting? Right, Bosa out, Warner out. Do

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Speaker 3: you make a play to add a linebacker? Do you

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Speaker 3: make a play to add a Quinn Williams from the

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Speaker 3: Jets who Sala knows, well, do you do something?

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Speaker 4: Because the Niner schedule.

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Speaker 3: Still leaves the door open for them to make a

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Speaker 3: deep playoff runner. Remember the offense, we'll have Ayuk, presumably Jennings,

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Speaker 3: Piersoll Rock party like they're gonna have pieces.

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Speaker 1: I think the Niners are a week to week team.

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Speaker 1: If two of their receivers came back next week, I'd

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Speaker 1: say no. I mean with the Niners, we just watched

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Speaker 1: their practice reports every week. I mean, so I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do have some offensive firepower coming back,

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Speaker 1: but I mean listens, and they had moments in that game.

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Speaker 1: That loss was not on mac Jones. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: had their moments. But Tampa's really good right now, and

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Speaker 1: they're there punishing you over the top if you have

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Speaker 1: if you try to you bring too much heat on Baker,

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Speaker 1: he'll burn you. They'll go right at you over the top.

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Speaker 1: And as Matt said, Baker's throwing the best feet ball

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Speaker 1: of his life.

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Speaker 3: He has eight touchdown passes of twenty or more are yard.

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Speaker 3: That's double the second most quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 4: Who's your guy? Bo Nicks?

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Speaker 3: All right, Colin, Let's start with college football. Indiana taking

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Speaker 3: down Oregon was a major upset. Your boy Dante Moore.

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Speaker 3: He just his offensive line let him down. I think

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Speaker 3: that was the big story. I didn't think he was terrible.

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Speaker 3: I thought the offensive line was total trash. But the

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Speaker 3: real story here is Kurt Signetti. This guy has hit

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Speaker 3: the big ted like a comet, and he talked about

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Speaker 3: the difference between last year's Hoosiers and this year's Hoosiers

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Speaker 3: after the big win.

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Speaker 10: Last year, I was the way I was because I

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Speaker 10: thought I needed to be taken over this program, kind

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Speaker 10: of lead the charge the way I was out there

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Speaker 10: a little bit. I knew that early on in December. Okay,

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Speaker 10: I thought we established credibility last season. Our team was

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Speaker 10: in a good place. The most important thing to me

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Speaker 10: was our mindset going into this game that we believed, expected,

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Speaker 10: prepared to make it happen, and could handle the ups

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Speaker 10: and downs of the game without flinching, showing frustration and anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's an argument Ohio State's the best

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Speaker 1: team in the country in Indiana's second Texas A and

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Speaker 1: M's pretty good, but I don't know that that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: last year Ohio State won the Natty. They went to

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Speaker 1: Oregon and they couldn't pull this off. Dante War was

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Speaker 1: on fire. They I mean, they got after Dante More

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Speaker 1: got sacked six times. And I don't think you'll leave

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Speaker 1: this job to go to Penn State. Penn State right

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Speaker 1: now is a bit of a hot mess. Bloomington's a

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Speaker 1: great place to live. It's one of the best college towns.

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Speaker 4: Bloomington. Have you been. I've never been there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, great top ten college town. It's a great

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Speaker 1: place middle of the country. You know, whether it's not ideal,

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Speaker 1: it's not ideal in Penn State. Serve if you've got

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Speaker 1: the nil money. His staff is being well compensated. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, Indiana again, now that they're winning, well,

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Speaker 1: watch what this Oregon win does for recruiting. Watch what

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Speaker 1: it does. You may find another couple million bucks in

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Speaker 1: the nil off a win like this.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, sorry to back up a little.

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Speaker 3: Miami Hurricanes, you forgot about that. They're certainly one.

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Speaker 4: Of the time.

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Speaker 1: They're very good.

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Speaker 4: But Indiana is right there. Knock it on the door.

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Speaker 3: I do need to ask you if you're the Hoosiers

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Speaker 3: and you see all these coaches getting run around the country,

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Speaker 3: the Oregon State fired their coach. I mean we're in

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Speaker 3: early October coming. I wonder do you go to Signetti

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Speaker 3: and say, hey, bro, we know the big boys are.

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Speaker 4: Coming after you.

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Speaker 3: We want to lock you up. We want to go

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Speaker 3: from eight million a year to I don't what did

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Speaker 3: they boost him to twelve. I mean Colin in two years,

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Speaker 3: he's made Indiana football relevant. I couldn't tell you one

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Speaker 3: Indiana player you know, five ten years ago, could you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember when they were good at.

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Speaker 1: I you know. I again, Indiana's in the big ten.

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Speaker 1: Penn State's in the big ten. Penn State has more history,

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Speaker 1: probably has a little bit more money. They got a

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Speaker 1: huge Adidas deal. Yeah, but I I don't know. I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's in his fifties. He may not want

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Speaker 1: to bounce around anymore.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's sixty four. He's getting up.

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Speaker 1: There in an he's sixty four years old.

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Speaker 4: He was you know, I graduated from JMU.

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Speaker 3: He was at JMU and then left for Indiana and

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Speaker 3: brought a ton of his players. So it's like Belichick's

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Speaker 3: just grabbing guys in the portal. Signetti got specific guys

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Speaker 3: his own that fit his system, so it was a

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Speaker 3: seamless transition. I think he's gonna listen, we got a

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Speaker 3: Michigan guy on staff who's like, listen, I would take

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Speaker 3: him in a heartbeat over Sharon Moore, who is he

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Speaker 3: was the interim guy. Remember you with your whole interim thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, Hardball kind of hand picked him.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if.

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Speaker 3: Sharon Moore is long from Michigan. Does Signetti get a

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Speaker 3: bite from the Vereens? The dude is killing it right now.

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Speaker 3: We'd agree on that, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you're winning at Austin just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: People don't go there and win. Ohio State couldn't go

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Speaker 1: there and win it. It's one of the loudest places.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I would. I

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Speaker 1: don't think i'd move. I don't want to go into

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Speaker 1: that Penn State mess.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you remember last week I told you

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Speaker 3: the biggest college football better I know was on Indiana

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Speaker 3: plus seven, and I was reluctant.

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Speaker 4: I did pull the trigger, but some.

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Speaker 3: People out there I did not think that game was

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Speaker 3: going to be close. Colling, that was one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest surprises of the season, because you know Oregon's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, because USC throttling Michigan was not a surprise. It

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Speaker 1: should be known.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on Colin to your boy Baker

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Speaker 3: mayfield Man Tampa Bay. I even won looking like a

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Speaker 3: legit contender.

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Speaker 4: In the NFC.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite plays was after this Baker scramble,

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Speaker 3: just elusive stuff, almost like that page out of Justin

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Speaker 3: Herbert's book. He throws a bomb touchdown to Tes Johnson,

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Speaker 3: young fella who catches it like a fingertip touchdown catch.

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Speaker 4: It's just spectacular.

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Speaker 1: He was an Oregon kid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then it has flipped.

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Speaker 3: And after the game he was like, I heard m

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Speaker 3: VP chance And then a teammate woke him up and

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Speaker 3: was like, bro, it's not about.

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Speaker 4: You, Baker.

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Speaker 1: This the city has rallied around you. His fan base

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Speaker 1: loves you when you had to have a run and

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Speaker 1: the chance MVP to start reading and make you feel.

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Speaker 6: It's week six, so got a big one next week,

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Speaker 6: so it's it's awesome to have the support.

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Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong, but we're we're just getting started.

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Speaker 1: I'm mature. Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 4: He's a different dude. Now, remember what he.

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Speaker 1: Needs to do Like that. He doesn't like when you

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Speaker 1: say that.

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Speaker 4: No, No, he's different, you Colin.

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Speaker 3: He used to favorite my tweets when he was coming

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Speaker 3: out of Oklahoma, where I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if this guy's going to make it as a pro.

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Speaker 4: He would.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like his team either that was him, he

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Speaker 3: would he would look on social media and exact revenge

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Speaker 3: on those people. He's grown up a lot now. I

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Speaker 3: will just point out, you know, when you I have

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Speaker 3: a good weekend, you start looking at the card Buck

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Speaker 3: set Lions.

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Speaker 4: This week Tampa Bay Ride and high. They might be

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Speaker 4: number one in the herd hierarchy. Detroit. You filling the lion.

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Speaker 1: Troit's not going to have their safety branch. And Baker

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Speaker 1: lives on the deep ball.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you taking Tampa.

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Just a heads up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not betting against Baker right now. He is on

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Speaker 1: a col Rawley streak. I'm not betting against him.

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Speaker 4: Smart.

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Speaker 3: I've lost some money betting against Baker this season.

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Speaker 4: Final story, Colin, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Move to your other favorite quarterbacks. Sammy d will slinging

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Speaker 3: Sammy Darnald, I think I texted you yesterday on the

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Speaker 3: JSN touchdown. I mean, look at this strike in stride.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Donald is clicking on all cylinders. Here's Sam

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Speaker 3: Darnald after dispatching the Jags twenty to twelve.

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Speaker 11: Last year. They never played us in single high safety,

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Speaker 11: which I'm not sure I've ever seen in the game before.

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Speaker 11: And you know, they kind of took advantage of me

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Speaker 11: being a little greedy out there, and I told myself,

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Speaker 11: I was gonna, you know, take what they give me,

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Speaker 11: and if they give me a check down, I'm going

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Speaker 11: to take it. Today a great team and you know,

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Speaker 11: we're really excited about, you know, kind of where we're

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Speaker 11: at as a team. And you know the result of this.

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Speaker 1: One, Yeah, Seattle is they got some dudes, and they're

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Speaker 1: they're a young team, green Bay kind of young team

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Speaker 1: sometimes or no, I mean they should have they should

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Speaker 1: have closed this game down about an hour before they did, right,

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Speaker 1: But it was my second favorite bet of the week.

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Speaker 1: My first is tonight Washington. But I see Jacksonville ten penalties, turnovers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jacksonville coming off that Kansas City win, you

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Speaker 1: knew they were going to step back. You knew they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to handle sick. It's not about how

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Speaker 1: do you handle losing it? How do you handle success?

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Speaker 1: And Jacksonville did not play particularly well well.

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Speaker 4: So you love Seattle.

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Speaker 3: You tried to talk me into it, and I said,

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Speaker 3: three guys in the secondary are down.

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Speaker 4: I can't do it. I'm an idiot for that.

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Speaker 3: Let me just point out one of the craziest stats

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Speaker 3: I saw from Sunday.

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Speaker 5: The Seattle Seahawks had seventeen quarterback hits seventeen Colin that's

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Speaker 5: more than Justin Fields got hit and he was sack

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Speaker 5: nine times. So I don't know what happened with the

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Speaker 5: Jags offensive line, but if Seattle's d line plays like

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Speaker 5: that and they get their guys in the secondary back,

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Speaker 5: you know we got three.

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Speaker 4: Teams that are four and two in the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we would agree San fran is a little

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Speaker 3: behind due to the injuries.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we think the Rams now Puka.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like he's gonna miss this week in London,

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Speaker 3: so I think the Rams take maybe a step. Is

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Speaker 3: Seattle gonna win the division and Coward's gonna have.

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Speaker 4: Called another one in the offseason?

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Speaker 1: Rights, it's Seattle is young, and the good news about

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Speaker 1: being young is when you get banged up, players get

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Speaker 1: healthy faster. So it's all I know. I always use

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Speaker 1: to turn the audio down when you watch a game.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City looks fast. Kansas City just looks and Seattle

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Speaker 1: looks too good not to be a playoff team. They

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Speaker 1: look fast, they get after it, like him jmck of

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Speaker 1: the News, Well, that's.

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Speaker 2: The news, and thanks for stopping by The Herdline news.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's official. We have a worst coach team in

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Speaker 1: the league. There is nothing nothing the Jets do well,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. The Herd live in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, a Fox NFL doubleheaders starts with Saint Quon and

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Speaker 3: the Eagles taking on the Vikings or other regional action.

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Speaker 4: Then in America's Game of the Week, Jaden.

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Speaker 3: Danuels and the Commanders battle Dak and the Cowboys for

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Speaker 3: Packers Cardinals. Check local listings for the games in your area.

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Speaker 1: Mentally on Fox mend there's some interesting ones. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you Eagles, Vikings. Keep your eye on there's a

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Speaker 1: couple interesting lines this weekend.

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Speaker 3: And if there's Jets, does that get you excited yet?

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Speaker 1: But keep your eye on the Colts and the Chargers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna giveaway. I mean what it was

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Speaker 1: I this week I forgot four to zho. Keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on that Colts line. Very interesting. So a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, I said this. NBA players, especially stars,

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Speaker 1: have often spoken out against their coaches, like you don't

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Speaker 1: do that in the NFL. But I got two, two

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Speaker 1: or three times kind of calling out Mike McDaniel and

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Speaker 1: I'll get to it in a second. But a member

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Speaker 1: of the Jets called out Aaron Blenn, the coach. So

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Speaker 1: what I saw yesterday was bewildering how bad it was

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Speaker 1: before half the Jets tried a fake punt risky given

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Speaker 1: the situation. They converted, and the next play they run like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? If you're going to risk that,

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Speaker 1: then go into the two minute offense? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: And then you know, justin fields. I just doesn't make

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Speaker 1: any sense. They have him justin fields. In the second half,

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Speaker 1: something happened. He would not let go of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and there were times he had there were times he

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Speaker 1: had ample time to throw. So Garrett Wilson confronts the

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Speaker 1: coach on the sideline on going for it on the

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Speaker 1: fake punt, and then the first play is a running

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Speaker 1: play like, dude, two minute offense, let's go. Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. You know, the announcers are bewildered,

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Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson after the game, was upfront about it.

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Speaker 12: I just didn't know exactly what the plan was, and

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Speaker 12: once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed.

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Speaker 12: I'll just say that once we, you know, converted the

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Speaker 12: fourth down, I just thought we were going for the

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Speaker 12: you know, trying to make the play, and then obviously

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Speaker 12: we get to another fourth down and it's a tough

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Speaker 12: spot to be in. So, you know, in High said,

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Speaker 12: I get why they did that, but in a moment,

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Speaker 12: I was just like, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so organationally think about this. So you

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Speaker 1: pay forty million dollars thirty million guaranteed to Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: who's athletic, but he's regressed badly. That's on the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers leaves the Jets, look of the

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Speaker 1: year he's having. Justin Field's had a pretty good six

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Speaker 1: game stretch, goes to the Jets. Look what's happened to him?

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Speaker 1: This is the Sam Donald thing. We can keep blaming

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Speaker 1: the players, but Sam Darnold is a top ten quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league. Now. He looked like he was a

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Speaker 1: bust in New York. Aaron Rodgers looked old in New York.

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Speaker 1: He actually looks good. Justin Fields, I said four and

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Speaker 1: two in Pittsburgh, he looked pretty good. They moved into

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Speaker 1: the bench. Jets were like, okay, we'll pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody stinks in New York. They can't get they can't

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Speaker 1: get the GM right, they can't get the trades right,

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Speaker 1: they can't get the players right. So I can keep

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Speaker 1: blaming the quarterback. But I mean I would have gone

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Speaker 1: to Tyrod Taylor in the second half. I would have

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Speaker 1: kicked a field goal to win it. But Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: last year did not look like that. Sam Ernold watch

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Speaker 1: him now, it didn't look like that. This is an

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Speaker 1: organizational has Matt spill This is the worst team Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I think has a worst roster. The Jets are the

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Speaker 1: worst team, And so what do you do? Do you

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Speaker 1: fire the coach? Well, it's got a very Freddie Kitchens

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Speaker 1: feel to it, where it just doesn't feel like some

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Speaker 1: guys are great position coaches. Some guys are great coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Not all vice presidents can run the country. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are vps. Not all vps can run the company.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, VP is a great gig, But nothing works

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Speaker 1: for me. The explanations don't work Garrett Wilson calling him out.

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Speaker 1: The good news is there's a couple interesting quarterbacks we're

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Speaker 1: going to be available. Dante Moore had a bad weekend.

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Speaker 1: I still think he's really special, but you know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman is going to stop by next hour, and

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer the trading deadline is coming up. If I'm

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Speaker 1: the Jet, the Jets need a quarterback. But my question is,

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Speaker 1: after watching Justin Fields, what if they get one with

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Speaker 1: this staff, with this organization, will it matter. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: you're watching Donald, I'm watching him. Look what Carolina did

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Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield and Donald, so some of these organizations

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Speaker 1: in this sport, they're just not equipped to handle a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They don't know what they're doing. I mean, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield can go to the Rams and Sean mcvahon

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Speaker 1: have one practice and then engineer a game winning drive.

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs goes I think from Arizona to the Vikings

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Speaker 1: and Kevin O'Connell no practices throws for three hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets are just not equipped. Regardless of

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Speaker 1: who the coach is, could be Adam gaseitz Aaron let

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Speaker 1: They are not equipped to bring along a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: that needs somebody to put their arms around him. They

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Speaker 1: can't do it. The organization's not equipped to do it.

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Speaker 1: So here's the NFL schedule coming up this weekend. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take walks Washington over Chicago. I'll take Buffalo

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Speaker 1: off of lost to New England over Atlanta. That's an

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Speaker 1: easy one. I would say this when you look at

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Speaker 1: this schedule yesterday, everybody thought Denver was going to blow

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Speaker 1: out the Jets. Be very wary of the games that

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Speaker 1: looked like blowouts. We all thought Harball was going to

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Speaker 1: flex against Miami. He was furious. This is the time

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Speaker 1: of the year when teams start getting banged up. The

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Speaker 1: weather's going to cool down, quarterback play is going to

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Speaker 1: be different. I live in a part of the country

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Speaker 1: now it's getting cold and the Jackets are out. So

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Speaker 1: all this seven on seven summer football is over. Can

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Speaker 1: I spend a second on the Bears tonight? J Mack?

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's a fascinating game. Sure, Bears Washington tonight.

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Speaker 1: So I like Washington for two reasons. Number One, the

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Speaker 1: Bears have not shown an ability to win on the road.

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Speaker 1: Over the last several years. Here's the second thing to

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Speaker 1: win on the road. One of the things that's essential

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Speaker 1: in winning on the road is what the sh your defense? Dude,

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Speaker 1: as they say, defense travels. Well, the Bears give up

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Speaker 1: the most yards per play in the NFL. Now think

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Speaker 1: about that. So if you if you give up the

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Speaker 1: most yards per play, what happens? Caleb Williams on the

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Speaker 1: bench watching getting out of rhythm? What have the Bears

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Speaker 1: struggled with getting rhythm offensively? It's why? Like Washington, Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: breaking news. The Titans just announced that Brian Callahan has

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Speaker 1: been fired.

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Speaker 3: Wow, oh my go ahead of the Verbel revenge game

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Speaker 3: this week Patriots at Titans Verbel.

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Speaker 4: Revenge spot that lines up to seven.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Callahan toast, So you gotta find somebody to thick

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Speaker 3: cam Ward strength.

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Speaker 7: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Well, the game yesterday, we know the Raiders aren't great,

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Speaker 1: was not competitive, so obviously the players. So James Franklin

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Speaker 1: fired yesterday. Yeah, Brian Callahan, He's.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're the Titans, Colin, you're getting ahead of

845
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Speaker 3: the Jets and whoever else may fire the coach, you

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Speaker 3: can hit the ground running with who you want.

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Speaker 4: To go after I'll just say this.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna want an offensive coach, obviously, now Callahan was,

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Speaker 3: but you've got a young quarterback. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: go hire a defensive guy, do you. I can't imagine that.

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Speaker 1: I mean I watched it yesterday. Their lasting total offense

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Speaker 1: last on third down, and he's an offensive coach.

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Speaker 4: I mean they were down Ridley, but I don't think

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Speaker 4: it mattered.

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Speaker 3: You're right, it just doesn't look esthetically pleasing or you know,

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Speaker 3: remotely good.

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Speaker 1: How about Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 4: He's not going to the NFL. Come on, I.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't upgrade in the Big ten. I'd take a call

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Speaker 1: from the NFL. I'd go Saturday to Sunday. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going Indiana to Penn State. I'd go Saturday to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'd take the call.