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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Beck del Cast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Backdel Cast. My name is Jamie, my

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Speaker 1: name is Caitlin, and this is our podcast about how

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Speaker 1: women are portrayed in movies. Yeah, it's the Beck Dol

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Speaker 1: They're like, how do you strap in a car seat

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Speaker 1: never having kids? Was that not an option? That was

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Speaker 1: let's talk about movies. As we mentioned, this is a

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Speaker 1: A lot of movies don't do it very well. We're

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Speaker 1: Mike's hard? Where is it? Anyway? Our guests here with

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Speaker 1: and she has her own podcast called Angry Little Goats,

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Speaker 1: which she co hosts with Will Weldon, who you might

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Speaker 1: remember from our Mad Max Fury Road episode Friend of

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Speaker 1: the Cast, Friend of the episode we got all that

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Speaker 1: hate mail about, Yeah, we did from all those steam punks,

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Speaker 1: Our guest, Ali is this skinner. Thanks for being here,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Yeah kind of? Did you

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Speaker 1: really get hate mail? When Will came on? We well,

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Speaker 1: and like looking out for each other, and she's the

421
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Speaker 1: one who's being the jerk. The way I saw that

422
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: dynamic was like she's the boss, and the boss does

423
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: not break the rules, and all the I guess subordinates

424
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: as it were, are way more likely to break the rules.

425
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: But she's not even the boss, Like she's not the

426
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: captain and the ship or anything like that. She's not

427
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: even his first command. Until a few other people die

428
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: ashes like the science officer, I thought she and we

429
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, I'm not entirely Yeah, I don't

430
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Speaker 1: really know what her role is because they're the ones

431
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: who she she's like the they bicker about it. Because

432
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: he clearly being who and what he is is like filled,

433
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: let's get him in the ship. Yeah, I want to see.

434
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: And then when when they bring him in and it's

435
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: the face hugger through the helmet is just like an

436
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: egg with a vagina in it. It's like the most there.

437
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: This is like scary. Yeah. Apparently the pods, you know,

438
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: the the eggy pod things that they find um and

439
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: they kind of like open with the four pedals. It

440
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: originally was just too it was just like yeah, and

441
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: again the network was like, um, that's too much. Yeah

442
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: there's yeah. They were like they said that they were

443
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: scared they wouldn't be able to show it then like

444
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: Catholic countries or so. Yeah, double the flaps, double the fun,

445
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: that's what I say. Yeah. Oh I got an audible

446
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: laugh from Aristotle. I got it. You earned it into

447
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: Aristotle loves stubble flap. You guys gonna put that on

448
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: a T shirt And I'm suggesting you should put that

449
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: on the We're an enamel pin. Those are hip now

450
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: right Oh yeah, people love the pins. Yeah, buttle picture

451
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: of the egg the pod and a banner on it

452
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: that says Aristotle loves double And then just let the

453
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: people interpret it as sure that was Geiger hr Geiger,

454
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: is that his name that does? Yes? Yes, yes, yeah.

455
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: We needed all the like creepy space sex design there

456
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: there seemed to be I mean, I don't know that,

457
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: but like the practical effects in this movie we're so cool,

458
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: especially for the era. Yeah, I mean even the scene

459
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: where Ash's head is off and his body is like

460
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: flapping around, um and he's clearly just like there with

461
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: like the head flap kind of over him, but it

462
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: still looks kind of flawless. It's pretty cool. Yeah, because

463
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: there's I mean just a big mess these days. I

464
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: don't know that. It just looked really I the crap

465
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: out of it, and it would fake and it would

466
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: be and the head would be floating. Uh. Yeah. The

467
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: only part where I was like, oh, this is kind

468
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: of dumb is like when the baby alien bursts out

469
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: of the chest and like you see it kind of

470
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: like scamper across the tape like that, like that it's

471
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: clearly like someone doing some puppet tree that's not very good,

472
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, cute baby, or even the look like

473
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: it burst out and it sort of looks at everyone

474
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: but a baby. Yeah, it's a very like not the mama,

475
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: are you my mama? And then uh or what's the

476
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Alison beckdel book that I can never remember the name of?

477
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Are you my mother? Yeah? Okay, yeah, that's what it

478
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: says when it bursts out of are you my mother? Yeah.

479
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I know that she's that Ripley is not

480
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: like a warm character. She's like very by the book

481
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: in terms of but and she does become like more

482
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: in the Director's Cat there's a scene where, um, man,

483
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: what's the other woman's name, Lambie now, where she straight

484
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: up hits her when they come back in, just slaps

485
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: her across the jaw. Yeah. I made a note that, like,

486
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: it was kind of a bummer to see, like the

487
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: two women characters that there are in this movie be

488
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of hostile to each other. But then I was like, wait,

489
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Ripley's just stile towards everyone because she's almost always telling

490
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: someone to funk off or screening at their face, and

491
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: it's justified. I think that, you know, women should these

492
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: female characters should be allowed to have to be a

493
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: full range. You don't always you're I also find it

494
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: a little um obnoxious when it's all like cat fighting.

495
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: But I didn't feel like that. No, no, I don't

496
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: think that's happening here. Yeah, that was just really like,

497
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: if you want to be real technical about it, not

498
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the only female character mother the ship, Mother the ship.

499
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Speaker 1: So I was really hoping Jones was a girl cat

500
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: so we could just have one more. Did they Did

501
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: they nail down with the kind of cat? No? I

502
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: guess not, but jon Z, maybe I just assumed based

503
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: on the name that it was a boycat. But and

504
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: again in Aliens, the cat becomes a little girl. I mean,

505
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't become a little girl, but like the same

506
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: trans figures and to a girl. Like same role as

507
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Power one. The same role is done, but the plot

508
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: device is a little girl instead. Oh and then um,

509
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: and then yeah, the Queen Bee is a lady, a lady,

510
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: she say, she calls mother a bit in this I

511
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: think she calls the alien a bit to get away

512
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: from your bit. YEA great line. Basically, I just like

513
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: how throughout the entire story, Ripley is given a bunch

514
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: of agency. She's making decisions that are usually not obeyed,

515
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: but she's definitely playing an active, like a very active

516
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: role in the story. So we're used to seeing female

517
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: characters like, you know, I want to like, I'm just

518
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and not really do anything. You can

519
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: stress about the decision, right, But she's just like, this

520
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. Listen to me, this is what

521
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: has to happen. No one does and they pay the

522
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: price for it. Yeah. So I just thought it was

523
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: super cool to see her being like, funck off, you guys,

524
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: listen to me, here's the right choice. Do what I say.

525
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: You're painting a picture of yourself, like Ripley is badass.

526
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about Lambert because

527
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: of I read some background on her character, because I

528
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: guess that Veronica cart Right arrived on set believing she

529
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: was going to play Ripley and then they were like, actually, sorry,

530
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: bitch your Lambert, and she was not happy with it.

531
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: And but particular took issue with the character of Lambert

532
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: and how Lambert is more fearful and expresses a lot

533
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: of the fear. And I guess the function of that

534
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: character or the way she was written was, you know,

535
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: she represents the audience and like what we're feeling. Um,

536
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: But I guess that Veronica cart Right took issue with

537
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: that of like, why does that have to be the

538
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: only female care trip besides Ripley Slash. What didn't no

539
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: one tell me? I'm definitely that's the big question. That's

540
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: actually what happened. Um, Because on the other hand, you

541
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: could make a case for it's very interesting to have

542
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the audience to to expect the audience to relate to

543
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: these two female characters in the most significant ways in

544
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: this sci fi alien movie. Instead, because yeah, I didn't

545
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: really feel any connection with anything that one except maybe

546
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: Ash because we're introduced to him mostly as the one

547
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: who's kind of pushing against Ripley. Everybody else was like

548
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: they seem like cool dudes. I also find it interesting

549
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: that it was it's a very classist kind of movie

550
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: that you. I mean, they kind of moved away from that.

551
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: But the whole beginning is then being like, you know,

552
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: how many shares do we get? Like clearly they were

553
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: willing to do whatever within reason just to get this payday.

554
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: There's no executives aboard, there's no like higher socio economic

555
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: class people in there. Um. The guy who comes across

556
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: as though he is the one with the British accent,

557
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: who seems much fancier he's not a human, right, it's

558
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: not a person at all. I love the fancy British.

559
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: It's the best. They couldn't program him to have an

560
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: American accent on the design right there, Like he's he's fancy,

561
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: and that's the hint that you should have picked up

562
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: on the whole time, the only fancy one. Of course,

563
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: he's an Andrews. They're an evil people, yes, the fancies. God,

564
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: that's like Bill Knight and so many movies, especially my

565
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: favorite bad movie I Frankenstein. Where boy, is that a

566
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: remarkably bad one? I love like, that's a fun one.

567
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: That's a fun bad I got one of my one

568
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: of my biggest Twitter pops everr was after I walked

569
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: out of that and tweeted that it was the best

570
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: movie ever written by an Evanescence album in the Sega Genesis,

571
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: and it's still one of my top ranking tweets. It's

572
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: a good one. I didn't know why people cared about that.

573
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: It was a fun one. And also that was like

574
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: the kind of peaceful cinematic experience where like there was

575
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: never anyone else in the theater to experience. I Frankenstein

576
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: felt very personal. Oh my God, like that movie, and

577
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: they thought that they you know, they thought that they

578
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: were like launching a franch franchise because they left it

579
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: open beds, like who you know, Frankenstein Frankenstein. They Frankenstein Frankenstein.

580
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: But Bill Knight in that movie? Anyways? Is is the

581
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: fancy man who that wonderful thing? Like Christopher Walking and

582
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Jeelie do they are they aware that they're in a movie?

583
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: Did they just walk in there, like say something British

584
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: and he's like all right, and then I like say

585
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: something science e and then he does that and then

586
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: he just steals a b just food from craft services

587
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: and goes home like that's the kind of anyways. By

588
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: the way, I'm pretty sure it's the fancy guy. I'm

589
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: pretty sure you hold the record for number of references

590
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: anyone who has made ever. I wait, when you said

591
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel bad, I say it like when everyone's like,

592
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Christopher Walking and Jeli when you were evasive

593
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: about your wheelhouse, did you mean it was Jelie? I

594
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: think it might be only the films of Martin Brest

595
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: are really speak to me. Titanic and is what your wheelhouse? Man? Yeah?

596
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: I have to unsubscribe from HBO now because I told

597
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: myself I would do it when The Little Lives was over.

598
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I do want to watch the Jinks again,

599
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole thing. I've seen it nine times,

600
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: but it's time to see it ten times. I gotta

601
00:35:52,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: crossover in a double days baby anyway, Well, oh yeah,

602
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: in I just want to keep harping that. I just

603
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: love how persistent she is, because like everyone keeps feeling like, no, Ripley,

604
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: shut up, We're gonna stay this life, and she's just like, no,

605
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: you're putting us all in danger. Yeah, she doesn't doubt herself.

606
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. Also impressive was how white the white

607
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: areas of the ship were constantly given, how dirty and

608
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: nasty the rest of the ship was, and that there

609
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: was no cleaning crew, the janitorial situation there. I would

610
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: have loved, I really. I tweeted about this morning. I

611
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: got so many actualise from dudes. I was like, I'm

612
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: taking this down fine, because I was like, it's too pristine.

613
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: This and Discovery one from two thousand one, just like

614
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: pristine and white spaceship interiors, and it's like, I don't know,

615
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm filthy, but I have white walls

616
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: and I gotta I gotta touch those up. From time

617
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: to time they turned to eggshell. And especially if you're

618
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: going from moon or into pods, there's no footprints, no

619
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: nothing coming on, and then the dirty parts are like

620
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: very dirty, gusting. Yeah, yeah, especially when yeah, there's I

621
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: mean there's distribute that there's a little bit blood spraying everywhere,

622
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: there's acid blood. Who's cleaning it? And which just eventually

623
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you got enough jizz blood, enough acid blood, you know,

624
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: there's got to be acid jizz someplace. That's true, or

625
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: acid jazz pretty much the same. Did you know that

626
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: the genre of music in the Cantina in Star Wars

627
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: is called jizz jizz? Yeah? Really? Yeah? You know if

628
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: straight z that's that's smooth rocking jazz right there. Yeah,

629
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh man, I want to that's a j jazz. I

630
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: want to play some some jizz, super intiz, super into

631
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: jiz music. Guys. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. If if

632
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: someone asked you what you're like, they're like, what do

633
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: you listen to you? They're like, oh, we're gonna, we're

634
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: just we're just getting to it. Is it called jez?

635
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: And the way that like elevator music is called like

636
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: music is that Maybe I don't know, it's just it's

637
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: it's one of those like the world, sort of the

638
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Star Wars world. I'm disappointing Aristotle so intensely because it

639
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: means so much more to him than thinking about double flaps.

640
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, Ariostole is putting on his triggered hat right now. Yeah,

641
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: it's people who love Star Wars so much. They've just

642
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: created every Every question that could be asked about Star

643
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Wars has been answered someplace and agreed in the Star

644
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: Wars universe. That's what that type of music is. Like.

645
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: No one there's never a scene where somebody's like, hey,

646
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: what are those fools playing in the corner and someone

647
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: else is like, don't you know that's jizz. It's just

648
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: something that you know if you if you google it though,

649
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: that's the answer you look at and I get it.

650
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta ripley self assurance. I found very compelling

651
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: and good to why you know, it's it's it's great

652
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: to see it seem like character They that, but it

653
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: didn't make me it harder for me to relate to her.

654
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, because she's so good at her

655
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: job and so on it and knows the rules backwards

656
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: and forwards, but the I don't know, like and this

657
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: isn't even a criticism, but it's you know, I'm pretty

658
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: good at my job, but I feel like I only hesitate,

659
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: like there's so many, you know, points in any day

660
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: where you're just like, like like there was I don't know,

661
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: maybe I would have liked to maybe see like a

662
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: crack like in a character of any gender, though well

663
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that it Also it's a little bit more

664
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: justified in the sequel, when she's already gone through all

665
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: of this and so she's she's not, she has more

666
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: even more reason to be like, no, I'm sure you

667
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: really got to me. This is gonna suck. But this

668
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: is her first rodeo in regards to a lot of

669
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: jizz music or oh no, not the music, the explosive

670
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: milk blood okay, yes, yeah, oh yeah. And this is

671
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: where again in the sequel, you know, when she's confronted

672
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: with Android, she's like, I hate you guys. No, I'm

673
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: not gonna you can't be on the chip. Um and

674
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: he's like, but I'm a nice one, and he does

675
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: and um, but also we do see his just his

676
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: blood too. But I think one of the weirdest scenes

677
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: in the movie that I was like, we don't need

678
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: this was the magazine rape. Yeah, I was very I

679
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: guess he was choking her. Yeah, but yeah, like you

680
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: got hands, man, if you got hands to if you

681
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: have hands to hold a rolled up magazine and try

682
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: to shove in a woman's mouth, you have hands to

683
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: wrap around her neck and choke her that way that

684
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: speaks volumes. Thank you, I did. You can put it

685
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: on a pin. It's going to be along with them,

686
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: it's two pins. Like, yeah, I found that to be

687
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: a very confusing way to try to like suffocate or kill.

688
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: I think that there was just a nut. They were like, oh,

689
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: we've gone a couple of minutes without rape imagery. What

690
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: can we do? Oh? I know, They're like, let's pay

691
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: tribute to the genre and traditionally you can't break too

692
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: many brriers because yeah, it wouldn't suffocate her. You can

693
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: still because it's a rolled up magazine's I mean it hurt,

694
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: it would be uncomfortable. Also, were her arms pinned down?

695
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Why was she not? I think she she was. I

696
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: feels like an easy thing to fight off. Easily then

697
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: when everybody comes in and yeah, yeah, yeah Parker. So

698
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if like robots have super strength or

699
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: if they do, then again, choke her. That's so much.

700
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, like how we're advocating for it's just

701
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: a very cooker. It's like handy, this happens in every episode,

702
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: and it's like them cos like really Scott or whoever

703
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: made this choice was like challenging themselves to like, what's

704
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: a more creative way, what's more out of the box

705
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: way to get a rape on the screen, Like we've

706
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: already had the face hugger. Jeez, what's next? I guess yeah,

707
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: this magazine thing. Now, let's talk about the part where

708
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: John Hurt. A man gets essentially impregnated by an alien

709
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: species and then essentially gives birth to it. Beautiful, beautiful

710
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: thing in any man's life. It's just a natural, partial time.

711
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as someone who is terrified at the

712
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: just very idea of childbirth, I really enjoyed having to

713
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: see a man sort of go through with it. You see,

714
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: that's like, now you know that pain. It seemed less

715
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: painful to me the idea of actual childbirth because it

716
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: came through his chest, not as nanny or as cuckoo

717
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: and dying not having to raise that would have been fun, though.

718
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: He was like, sorry, guys, I gotta go. I got

719
00:42:53,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: somebody to take care of. No, yeah, I don't know.

720
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many just like sources of horror

721
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: in this movie that don't come just from like this

722
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: big alien attacking people, which is one of the ian

723
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: It's the nies and the cuckoos, right, that's where all

724
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: the Christmas, where all the terror comes, I mean, And

725
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: it really that bummed me out because I was like, oh, no,

726
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: our pussies like intrinsically terrifying, because like when they looked

727
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: into when they went into the it was an alien

728
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: ship they went into right when they when they leave

729
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: their ship. I think that they did, yeah, because there's

730
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: like the there's the space Jackie there and it's it

731
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: looks terrifying. And I was like, if they had walked

732
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: into a thing that was like full of broken glass

733
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: and like swords and sticks all point, it would have

734
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: been more physically dangerous, but it would not be as terrifying.

735
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't cause as much like terror and uncomfortableity as

736
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: this thing that's like looks like pussies. Right, they're walking

737
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: into two huge vaginas and then the walls are all

738
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, with the production design is very higd, very spooky.

739
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: Giger is a real weird though. He's a real for sure.

740
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: That must have been they were like, we gotta make

741
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: this movie. Oh you know who's a perv? We should

742
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: call up there us? But yeah, and so I was

743
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: because like, like you know how humans are like hardwired

744
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: to hate snakes, and the in any language will get attention.

745
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: And with most animals too. If you're having trouble with

746
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: your cat and you're like get off the counter and

747
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: he just won't listen, try throwing us at him, they

748
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: really don't like it. Yeah, because it sounds like a snake.

749
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: And everything that is evolved. This is what I have

750
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: read that everything that's evolved now that is currently an

751
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: existing species. We're the ones who have not been murdered

752
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: by snakes, um, among other things other predators. But snakes

753
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: are the ones that they're just all over the place.

754
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: They they're they're they're trying to get everybody. So we

755
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: are hard wired to dislike snakes. So the way they move,

756
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: you can't figure out how they how they moved, except

757
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: for like neighborhood we weed dealers who love snakes. Yeah,

758
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: but even that, I feel like those people are like

759
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: doing it to test themselves. Like, yeah, I don't, I'm

760
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: not even because you know their one has a pet

761
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: snake and doesn't tell everyone about it. But in the

762
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: same way, I was like, oh, no, are we hardwired

763
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: to be grossed out by pussies? Um, coming from someone

764
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: who does not find pussies sexually attractive, I'm not sure.

765
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm not grossed out by them, even though they are disgusting.

766
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Dicks are much grosser, though, I think, well, yeah, I

767
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: mean we had some gross dicks in there too, I

768
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: mean their heads. That's like, come on, take a second pass.

769
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: That's just so obvious. Well, it's like double dicks, Like

770
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: it's like Aristotle is double flaps. The scene where after

771
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: the face hugger alien has like dislodged itself from John

772
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Hurt's face and comed all into his throat and it's dead.

773
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: It's dead, and they're like kind of poking and prodding

774
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: and it to be like it's like stop, I can't

775
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: right now, I just down, give me, just need a

776
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: few minutes. I mean it's very vaginal slash volvic. I'm

777
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: going to bring that word into just it's not a word.

778
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: Is that a bot? I was like, can I stick

779
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: poke that word into my life? So I don't forget it.

780
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: I often say whenever people say vagina, what they mean

781
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: to say is vulva. It's like saying throat when you

782
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: mean neck exactly, or throat when you mean face or mouth.

783
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing I don't anyway. Vulvic is a new word.

784
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: That is, it is a thing now. So you're welcome, everybody.

785
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: The end, Okay, kayle and I loved that story. Thank you. Hey.

786
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Does anyone have any like final thoughts about the movie?

787
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it yet, we ruined. Yeah, it's

788
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: ruined for you, um, but you should see it. If

789
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: you're a fan of Group, if you're a fan of

790
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: Sigourney Weaver or a fine looking Tom Scarrett really look

791
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: at that hot history teacher. Yeah, if you're a fan

792
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: of deceptive fancy men. And I mean if it's a

793
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: fun I mean it's a fun movie. As a person

794
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: that's not that into the genre, I enjoyed this movie. Okay,

795
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: I want to say that, I dude, enjoy very much

796
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: that the last three remain like surviving characters are two

797
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: women and a black guy because all the other four

798
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: white dudes they're like, bye, you know, yeah, wasn't Hubris?

799
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: Who knows? But they did? They got dead, they did.

800
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: They got their diet very did. That's all that matters.

801
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: As long as they get diad cool. Hey does the

802
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: movie pass the Bechdel Test? I say yes. With flying colors?

803
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: With flying colors, yeah, I mean there's a there's no

804
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: question about whether or not it passes, because I do

805
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: agree that it does. There's a couple of different scenes

806
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: were Ripley and Lambert talk to each other, but mother,

807
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: what did you throw? Mother? There? That's where I'm talking

808
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: flying colure because she's never like, Mother, how's Dallas? I

809
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: worried about his feelings? She's like, shut this down? What

810
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: are we doing? Well? There's sometimes I feel like I'm

811
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: never gonna start dating mother. I know it's going to

812
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: make a weird period joke. Something's happening to my past,

813
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: can you uh? Yeah. There's a scene towards the beginning

814
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: whenever they have woken up and they're like, where are

815
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: we even? Ripley is like, that's not our system. That's

816
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: not that we're not in the right solar system or

817
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: that's that's the first clue things are wrong. And then

818
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Lambert is like, I know that, So that's a conversation

819
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: do iman are talking about? Not a man? And then

820
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: later on the other part that I noted where it

821
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: passes the test is when it's after Dallas dies and

822
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Ripley's like, we're just gonna proceed with Dallas's plan. We're

823
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: going to try to trap this alien in like the

824
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: air events, get the alien where we can't see it

825
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: and there has access to the entire ship. It's a

826
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: great plan, perfect And then Lambert's like, and end up

827
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: dead like the others, you're out of your mind. And

828
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: Repy's like, you got a better idea. And then she's like, yeah,

829
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: that's abandon the ship. And everyone's like, so that's a

830
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: like un conversation. But like, there may be other scenes

831
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: where it passes the test, but those are the only

832
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: two that I really nobody up on two. But I

833
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: also wrote down Mother. I don't know if I'm willing

834
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: to count Mother. It was it wasn't. First of all,

835
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: it was named, which is part of this, So it

836
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: wasn't just like computer, and they decided to gender it.

837
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: They could have called it X five seven And in

838
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: two thousand one it's how do you think? How? And

839
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: mother they fuck in time In SpongeBob's Carrepants, it's Karen

840
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: oh Flankton's computer wife. Cool. So anyways, I'm more of

841
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: a cartoon person. There's a there's a computer friend in

842
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: um that movie Moon as well, that Kevin Spacey the

843
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: boys computer. To forget what his name is, though, I

844
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: just remember that the landing pod that he's waiting for

845
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: is Eliza. So through the whole movie, they're like, Eliza

846
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: is a lot closer, and I'm like, stop to get there,

847
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: and you keep saying it cool. Yes, the movie passes

848
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: the Bechtel tests. We are now going to rate the

849
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: movie on our nipple scale. So we have a scale

850
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: that is zero to five nipples. We read it based

851
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: on it. Who is that? That's not right? It? Okay,

852
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. This is a

853
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: great scale to be rating a movie on, and I

854
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: feel like you should never have nipples and fives that's

855
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: not the number that they should ever come in. It's

856
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: like a pegleg of nipples. So Nates. You just got

857
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: one and then the other one is Wooden. Kay, all right,

858
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: yeah it's not the same, but it gets the job done.

859
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like three and a half women

860
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: three Yeah, yeah, I give it three and a half women.

861
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah is that your real? Okay? Cool? Wait, assuming that

862
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: women have two nipples each, so wait, that's like seven nipples.

863
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Wait one to three, four, five, three and a half

864
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: times two? Said two and a half? Oh oh sorry,

865
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a three and a half. Did I

866
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: say I will never know? There's no way to go

867
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: for us, you know? Yeah, half women? I like, I

868
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: will say that this most recent viewing, and some of them,

869
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a movie. This is so

870
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: gross as a movie. Gussie on the big screen. I

871
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: got to see you on the big screen, and I

872
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: tried to watch this during the day in my apartment

873
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: flooded with light, so it waited for night. Yeah. I'm

874
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: giving it an idealized five. I'm gonna maybe don't give

875
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: it a half. I'm going to walk out, but I'm

876
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: going to give it a whole number. Okay, and it is.

877
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give it a four based

878
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: on its portrayal of the women in it. Um. I

879
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: do think Ripley is a total badass. I like that

880
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: she is very persistent and she's intuitive. She knows I

881
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: mean maybe it's women's intuition. Is that even a thing?

882
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, do I have any I don't make

883
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: a mistake. She's just smart, right, she's smart. She's good

884
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: at her job, and she is persistent, and I really

885
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: enjoy seeing that on screen. She sort of Elizabeth Warren type,

886
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: is what she never said. Oh yeah, right, I don't

887
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: know how quotes were. Yeah, if I had any like

888
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: complaints about it, I guess I don't know. I just

889
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I was like maybe helping to see the relationship with

890
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: the other female character to be like a little less hostile.

891
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: But that's not really who really is. So I'm just

892
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: like nitpicking here. I think it maybe deserves a five nipple.

893
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Get back to me. I'll tell you

894
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: in a month. Okay, I'll give it. I'm gonna give

895
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: it for But they're all they're all sliced down the middle.

896
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh no likes just no crusts. Well there shouldn't be

897
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: crust on them either. I mean, I don't I just

898
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: I supports crusty nipple. I just I wanted to need

899
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: a bucket? Where how is this four of them? And

900
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: then you just what's the name of the production designer

901
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: who who also production podcast put a little crest in

902
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: there if that's his favous call for he has a

903
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: four because, um, I like the genderless aspect to all

904
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: of the characters, but that means that we don't really

905
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: get a lot of perspective on gender in the way

906
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: that a five nipple movie usually Well maybe maybe the

907
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: perspective is it gets to be defined by the individual,

908
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: right maybe, yeah, maybe this movie, just to be clear,

909
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: it is raising the roof right now. Yeah, I mean

910
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: maybe one day we'll all live in a society where

911
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: our gender doesn't even need to be recognized. Probably not

912
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: though probably No, No, it's the We're like four or

913
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: five months away from a handmaids Tale. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

914
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: I've not seen that, but I did recently see A

915
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Night's Tale, so I think I'm caught up the same thing.

916
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I think they have seen the Hulu one, But I

917
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: highly recommend the book terrific very much. Upset you right now.

918
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: It feels like a not too far away dystopian future.

919
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: What am I going to recommend this week? I'm gonna

920
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: recommend season two of Golden Girls and The Jinks preferably.

921
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Do you like the back to back to back to

922
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: back to back? Yes? This? Well? I okay, I have

923
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: a Jinks viewing planned with my friend this weekend and

924
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: it's the best way to watch the Jinks is the

925
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Jinks with no bathroom breaks. Oh right, So do you

926
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: guys talk during it at all? Or is there no speaking? Oh,

927
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: it's more like screaming. Okay, if you scream at the

928
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: same time, do you ever, Um, well, I've never watched

929
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: it with this person before. I was about into a

930
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: very long explanation of like, well, sometimes you know if

931
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: it's someone you've watched it with before. And I work

932
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: with a bunch of British people because of the Late

933
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Late show, and then also this s been off show

934
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: that I worked on. The British people like employing other

935
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: British people. But there's a lot of that kind of

936
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: stuff about American culture. They don't know Jinks. Yeah. Oh interesting,

937
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: So I lied a lot about the different things that

938
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: you could get done with the chains. That's great, yep,

939
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: I love I love a good like slow Burn white

940
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: lie that'll embarrass them like months in the future. And

941
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: I got him the showrunner on the show, very nice guy,

942
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: but he got him so nervous about what phrases were

943
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: actually not used here. He would be like, m well,

944
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to go get a mug of coffee. Do

945
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: you say that? Do you say muggy here? What is

946
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: that a bit of coffee? Wait? I just thought something

947
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: else about the movie that I have to say. It

948
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: takes longer for the alien fetus to like just j

949
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: in John Hurt's chest than it does for the baby

950
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: to reach adulthood. That that's why you know, that's a

951
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: precious life you can want us inside. I mean, life

952
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: begins hug face, hug whenever a weird alien species comes

953
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: into your throat and plants a baby in your chest.

954
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: It's just what mommy told you, right, Yeah, oh man,

955
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: this is ripe dirty talk too. Yeah. Yeah, next time

956
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: you're with the with the fella, tell me want to

957
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: make them plant his alien seed in your guts, in

958
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: your face hug me. I shudder to think how many

959
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: different disturbing way as a man could interpret that sence. Um,

960
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: he's hung me. Also, um like they since it sounds

961
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: like you guys are kind of new to hr gagor

962
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: this is like kind of the first time you here,

963
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: uh the mark of a real creepy dorm room. A

964
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: Geiger poster? Interesting? What other movies has he done? It's

965
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: not a movie like you could if you google him,

966
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: you'll find like lots of concept art m and uh.

967
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Like when I was in school, at least they would

968
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: have those poster affairs for all the kids to go

969
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: and decorate their post or less rooms. And there's always

970
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of Gaiger stuff. Every poster in a college

971
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: room is the morning Horn. Yes for these sticky robots.

972
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of sticky robots. My college roommate

973
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: had a cardboard cutout of major pain and our room

974
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: for a full year and then I never asked her

975
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: how she got it. But eventually it started next to

976
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: her bed, which I didn't like. But then it started

977
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: to inch out into the room, which I really didn't like,

978
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: and then at some point I was like, I like it.

979
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: You want me over, Eliza, Thanks a ton for being here,

980
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks a that for having me. Where can

981
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: people find you on the internet. They can find me

982
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Addie Eliza Skinner or on Instagram at

983
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: at the Skins. Shouldn't shouldn't have done that, should have

984
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: made it all the same thing, but it didn't. And

985
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: they can listen to my podcast, Angry Little Goats. That's right. Hey,

986
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: what's making you a happy little goat today? Oh? Wow? Today,

987
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer. I mean, I recommend The

988
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: Handmaiden's Tale, but I feel like I've done that a lot. Actually,

989
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: I really want to go watch all of the Alien

990
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: movies now because also the the new one coming out.

991
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for hoping it will be a redemption

992
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: from the awful that I have not seen. Alien three.

993
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's the one with the was it Charles has Dotte.

994
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's the um it's the one where

995
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: she's in like like space jail, just a shaver head,

996
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: bald bald women rule. The bald women rule. Yeah, that's

997
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: the rule. I think at that point she's a clone

998
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: because they start cloning Ripley, I believe, keep starting in

999
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: the third movie, because she's been the first suited to

1000
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: funk up all these aliens exactly. Sigourney Weaver Kanna's Women

1001
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: in Stem for this one I think so. Yes, yeah,

1002
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: I think she's a science officer. Yeah, hell yeah, she's

1003
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: a stem head. I thought of another bald woman woman movie,

1004
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: which is I love I love it. This theory actually works.

1005
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it works. Are in charge? It's

1006
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: just large, it's what who is? What about Empire records?

1007
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: Does that ruin it? Oh? You know what? I have

1008
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: not seen that movie in so long that I don't

1009
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: remember what they look like. I recently tweeted about loving

1010
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: dramatic haircuts and movies, and so all these people were

1011
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: like sending me head shaving scenes and I was like, well,

1012
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that. I meant grab your hair scissors, slink.

1013
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I like that. Mulan gets her haircut

1014
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: with a fucking sword. Yeah. But the movie I was

1015
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: thinking of it was a V for Vendetta y. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1016
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: gets a head shaven. But is she in charge? She's

1017
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of in charge of her own life, so she's

1018
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: maybe argue that she's an authority figure. I mean, she's

1019
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: not the authority figure. And she's didn't work for Brittany. No,

1020
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: I leave Brittany alone. There's okay. I still think it's

1021
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: a triumph that she survived that year. I oh god,

1022
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: I think she's great. I'm going to Vegas for the

1023
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: first time next month and I and I'm like, I

1024
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: really want to go see Brittany. I really do know.

1025
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: I understand it. I did you did? Did you enjoy it? Oh? No,

1026
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: it's not a great She's also tired. Yeah, And that's

1027
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: when you feel like like you're like, oh, you didn't

1028
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: have to do this for me, Brittany, I'm sorry, I'm

1029
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: sorry I had to make you. And also when they

1030
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: line up her songs like that, like one after another,

1031
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: you realize that it's like it spells out like um

1032
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: like cut out newspaper letter style, like a huge cry

1033
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: for help. It's just like the songs are basically all

1034
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: like I'm a sexy baby, and no when this since

1035
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: to me or knows what I want or feel like,

1036
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: how long has it been since Brittany has actually felt

1037
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: that way like a sexy baby? Like I said, oh, well,

1038
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: I feel like she still does feel like a sexy Yeah.

1039
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: I feel like she's like the message of all of

1040
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: her songs are basically like you just you just want

1041
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: to suck me. That's it. I might still go see it. Yeah,

1042
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell you not to take

1043
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: pictures with her costumes. But also you do know that

1044
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Mine Freak is there too. Oh ship, I'm only there

1045
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: for three days, I would say, what's I am? Mine Freak?

1046
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: I was recently considering going there just to like line

1047
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: up a bunch of magic shows and just go see

1048
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of magic shows. Dude, I am that kind

1049
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: of dark. Would love to see Mine Freak. I used

1050
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: to love that show. I used to I don't know why,

1051
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: but Mine Freak was my free was miship and I

1052
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: used to love the Jamie Kennedy experiment. So I were

1053
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: finding out about your whale house. It's garbage. Never wheelhouse

1054
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: fucking sucks. I like how this episode has become like

1055
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: the last half hour of Lord of the Rings Return

1056
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: of the King, where every time you think it's over,

1057
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: sorry we keep going. No, I've had so much fun.

1058
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: Keep you again, Eliza for being here. It's wonderful time

1059
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: ghost seeing the new alien movie. Uh it might be good,

1060
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: all right bye