Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail.
Speaker 3: This is Robert Land, and this is Joe McCormick. And
Speaker 3: it's Monday, the day of each week that we read
Speaker 3: back some messages from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind mailbox.
Speaker 3: If you've never gotten in touch before, why not give
Speaker 3: it a try. You can reach us at contact at
Speaker 3: Stuff to Blow Your Mind. Any kind of mail is
Speaker 3: fair game. Obviously, we like feedback on recent episodes. If
Speaker 3: you have anything interesting you want to add to a
Speaker 3: topic we have covered on the show, If you have questions, corrections,
Speaker 3: suggestions for new topics, or if you just want to
Speaker 3: say hi, tell us your story, or just share something
Speaker 3: generally interesting. Any of that's all right, send it on
Speaker 3: to contact at stuff to Blow your Mind dot com.
Speaker 3: All right, As we've been saying for a few weeks,
Speaker 3: we've been working through all of the responses we got
Speaker 3: to our series on childhood amnesia. Lots of people wanted
Speaker 3: to share their earliest childhood memories or other commentary on
Speaker 3: these episodes, and so of course we still have not
Speaker 3: gotten near the bottom of all the messages we received
Speaker 3: on that, but we're keeping on working through them, doing
Speaker 3: a few at a time. So Rob, do you want
Speaker 3: to kick us off today? Reading this message from column
Speaker 3: who has written in before and we have called him Calm.
Speaker 2: Oh well I don't remember that. Well apologies. Column. Column
Speaker 2: rights then and says, hi, guys, thanks for reading out
Speaker 2: my very short email about the orca looking after the
Speaker 2: juvenile whale of another species. Oh yeah, that was just
Speaker 2: a week or two ago. Yeah, this is my third
Speaker 2: time writing in, and I thought i'd give you some
Speaker 2: help in pronouncing my name. It's spelled Colm, but is
Speaker 2: pronounced column like there are three columns in this spreadsheet.
Speaker 2: The Irish spelling is Colm, the Scottish spelling is c
Speaker 2: A L l Um, and the England version is colin
Speaker 2: the old alien. Anyway, I wanted to tell you about
Speaker 2: a very specific and very early childhood memory I have.
Speaker 2: I was in my pram and I was being brought
Speaker 2: around to our local corner shop by my mammy. Yes,
Speaker 2: grown men in Ireland call their mom or mom mammy
Speaker 2: their whole life. It's a small grocery shop that is
Speaker 2: still there today. This was in late nineteen sixty nine
Speaker 2: or early nineteen seventy as it was cold outside, and
Speaker 2: I remember being well tucked in and setting up in
Speaker 2: the pram. My Mammy parked me up outside and went
Speaker 2: in to get her shopping. I remember some kids hanging
Speaker 2: around outside the shop and one of the boys was
Speaker 2: eating crisps. You call them potato chips. This boy gave
Speaker 2: me a crisp, and what I remember is that I
Speaker 2: had no teeth to chew it, and it felt hard
Speaker 2: and salty against my gums. This leads me to believe
Speaker 2: I must have only been between twelve and eighteen months old.
Speaker 3: This is just such a British Isles first memory. It's
Speaker 3: gotten risps, it's got a pram, It's got boys giving
Speaker 3: you crisps at the corner grocery.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, you both do trojan work, lads. Fair play
Speaker 2: to you, and please do something about the subject of
Speaker 2: lighthouses in the future. I mentioned it to Joe a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and he said it was a
Speaker 2: great idea. As far as I'm aware, you have never
Speaker 2: covered the subject before, even in the Invention series.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great topic. Yeah, I guess we
Speaker 3: just never got around to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why not. Because I'm always I'm
Speaker 2: like you, Joe. I mean, I'm always going on trips,
Speaker 2: and I bet you often find yourself at strange lighthouses.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what I do. It's like, there's a
Speaker 2: weird lighthouse in the area, I'm gonna go see it.
Speaker 3: So I wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3: I am standing on a rocky shoreline, staring up at
Speaker 3: the lighthouse, and it's calling to me. It's saying something.
Speaker 3: Do you hear it? What is it saying. It's saying,
Speaker 3: put the mask on now.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're so excited about the mask as we just
Speaker 2: we just recorded that episode this morning.
Speaker 3: Oh. But also to summarize the end of column's message here,
Speaker 3: he lets us know that he makes ambient music and
Speaker 3: sends us a link to his band camp page. Of course, listeners, always,
Speaker 3: if you make music, you are welcome to send it
Speaker 3: our way. We can't promise we'll always have time to listen,
Speaker 3: but if we get a moment, we will do our best,
Speaker 3: and yeah, send us links to band camp pages. We
Speaker 3: love music. We love band camp in particular as a
Speaker 3: music hosting website. I'm a pretty big fan, so yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Listen to some of what he's in in. I like
Speaker 2: the vibe. I love a nice ambient track. Lexicon of
Speaker 2: sound dot bandcamp dot com. Well, thanks for writing in column.
Speaker 2: I love the suggestion, and of course I love this
Speaker 2: tidbit of a very early childhood memory with the crisps.
Speaker 3: Okay, This next message about childhood amnesia is from Jen,
Speaker 3: who says, good morning, love the podcast does a fellow
Speaker 3: science geek and trained neuroscientists, I have a few questions
Speaker 3: about your research into childhood amnesia. One, how does the
Speaker 3: growth of the brain impact childhood memories, especially the tripling
Speaker 3: in size during the first year of life. And how
Speaker 3: does the growth of subcortical hippocampus and cortical regions e g. Language, auditory,
Speaker 3: visual motor areas also impact early memories. Well, Jen, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure of the full answer to your question, and
Speaker 3: it's been a few weeks now since our episode, so
Speaker 3: I hope I'm remembering what I do remember correctly. But
Speaker 3: I do think it's commonly assumed that rapid structural development
Speaker 3: in the young brain weakens the connections that form the
Speaker 3: basis of long term memories. So whatever early episodic memories
Speaker 3: are made kind of fall prey to that expansion and
Speaker 3: development process you talked about, So I think this would
Speaker 3: entail both the rapid growth and the plasticity of the
Speaker 3: young brain that probably directly undermines the stability of episodic
Speaker 3: memories formed in early life. The metaphor we used in
Speaker 3: the episode, I'm still not sure if this is the
Speaker 3: best metaphor. I'd be interested in getting feedback from more neuroscientists,
Speaker 3: But we were thinking about it sort of like trying
Speaker 3: to rebuild or renovate a house and moving into the
Speaker 3: house at the same time. So you might be like
Speaker 3: making memories in terms of setting up furniture and decorations
Speaker 3: and a certain arrangement. But then if you have to
Speaker 3: like rebuild the walls and rebuild a room and make
Speaker 3: it bigger and add on new things to the house,
Speaker 3: you will probably also have to end up rearranging all
Speaker 3: of the things you've moved in as the house is rebuild. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is jens second question. Most of the events I
Speaker 3: remember from childhood involved getting into some kind of trouble.
Speaker 3: I do remember many happy times too, as well as
Speaker 3: some moments within daily routines, but I cannot remember day
Speaker 3: to day routines at all. For example, when I got
Speaker 3: up in the morning to go to school, did my
Speaker 3: mom fix me breakfast? Did I fix it myself? Who
Speaker 3: chose my clothes and helped me get dressed? During early
Speaker 3: primary years? I remember snippets from upper elementary school, much
Speaker 3: like the research you reported supports and looking at old
Speaker 3: photos jog sum memories. But I find it fascinating that
Speaker 3: such daily, routine events occurring over years of my childhood
Speaker 3: would be gone. Is it because they are routine and unimportant?
Speaker 3: Is it because I was cared for, well fed and
Speaker 3: dressed ie growing up in a secure, safe and comfortable environment,
Speaker 3: Jen another good question. I don't know for sure, but
Speaker 3: this does connect to one of the things that we
Speaker 3: talked about in our interview with David Eagleman, who is
Speaker 3: a neuroscientist, and you know, when we were talking with him,
Speaker 3: he brought up the idea that, of course, the brain
Speaker 3: records fewer memories for event sequences that we perceive as
Speaker 3: routine and mundane, and studies show the brain tends to
Speaker 3: increase the density of memory detail for events that are
Speaker 3: unusual and or highly salient for some reason, maybe they
Speaker 3: have intense social salience, or survival salience. Also, some of
Speaker 3: the studies we looked at made it seem like events
Speaker 3: that are actively remembered more often are more likely to
Speaker 3: be remembered for a longer time. They're less likely to
Speaker 3: just fade away into nothingness, with the caveat being that
Speaker 3: revisiting memories through storytelling or reminiscing often introduces changes to them.
Speaker 3: But that seems like at least a partial two part
Speaker 3: explanation for why mundane routine events would be remembered less.
Speaker 3: You know, they're less likely to be recorded in detail
Speaker 3: to begin with, because they're not these unusual or highly
Speaker 3: salient events. And then second, routine events are not likely
Speaker 3: to be revisited in memory very often, which makes them
Speaker 3: more susceptible to fading over time. Again, as ral Julia
Speaker 3: put it in the role of m Bison, for me,
Speaker 3: it was Tuesday.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean, I mean that's one of
Speaker 2: the things about we've discussed before, like going on a vacation,
Speaker 2: it messes with your routine or forces to take on
Speaker 2: new routines, and that routine may This may apply to
Speaker 2: something as like, oh, well, on this trip, I'm going
Speaker 2: to read first thing in the morning, whereas usually I
Speaker 2: don't have time. Usually I don't have time for that
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Or it can just be like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I'm making my coffee here instead of instead of where
Speaker 2: I normally make it, I'm using a slightly different machine.
Speaker 2: It introduces all of these novel factors and new factors
Speaker 2: and altered factors into indo your existing routines, and allows
Speaker 2: the fostering of new routines, and therefore the whole trip
Speaker 2: will then be more novel than you're just your average
Speaker 2: daily week, even though you know, we find a lot
Speaker 2: of comfort in routine. Yeah, it doesn't mean that the
Speaker 2: comfortable moments are as memorable.
Speaker 3: But all that novelty means you're going to have way
Speaker 3: more detailed memories about your vacation than you would an
Speaker 3: equivalent length of time where you were just doing your
Speaker 3: normal things staying home and working or whatever. Jen's third question,
Speaker 3: what about our memory or lack of memory surrounding traumatic
Speaker 3: events in childhood? How does our brain choose to block
Speaker 3: or embed traumatic memories parentheses? This is a huge area
Speaker 3: of research in recent years, and as a current elementary
Speaker 3: school teacher in a low income community, the impact of
Speaker 3: trauma on behavior on behavior and cognition is an ever
Speaker 3: present concern. Jen, I would say, yeah, that is. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but that is a very interesting and very
Speaker 3: important question. Finally, Jen says, most of the research I
Speaker 3: did as a neuroscientist involved language processing in adults and
Speaker 3: studying impacts of brain trauma on disruption in language. So
Speaker 3: my knowledge of the memory literature is lacking and focused
Speaker 3: on adult memory. Plus, since switching careers, I haven't kept
Speaker 3: up with current research. I know there are several theories
Speaker 3: of how our memories, especially episodic memories, are quote organized
Speaker 3: or quote stored in the brain. So my last question
Speaker 3: is how do these theories inform childhood amnesia? Thanks for
Speaker 3: reading this. I don't expect you to answer these questions. Phew.
Speaker 3: Well that's a load off, but rather raise them as
Speaker 3: things to keep in mind as you work on future
Speaker 3: episodes of the topic. Well, this is kind of out
Speaker 3: of order, isn't it now that we're reading this after
Speaker 3: we finished the series. But yeah, this does raise important
Speaker 3: questions and maybe we will return to the topic in
Speaker 3: the future. This will give us more things to plow into.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, what do we have next? Looks like
Speaker 2: we have some comments regarding our episode or episodes, I
Speaker 2: guess at this point on the Telephone Game, right, So.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess. First of all, I want to summarize
Speaker 3: multiple responses we got concerning the version of the telephone
Speaker 3: game that you play by switching back and forth between
Speaker 3: text and drawings. So the game might begin with a
Speaker 3: text phrase and then somebody has to draw that phrase,
Speaker 3: and then the next player has to look at the
Speaker 3: picture only and come up with what text that drawing
Speaker 3: is supposed to represent, and then you just go back
Speaker 3: and forth. Three Oh sorry, what.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say? I think what the
Speaker 2: title that we threw out there for it was something
Speaker 2: like cat Vomit poop Machine or something like cat Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: something just horrible that we just had to read multiple
Speaker 2: times off of our notes. And it turns out there
Speaker 2: were better names for this.
Speaker 3: There are many names for it, So three different listeners
Speaker 3: told us three different names for it. Eric writes in
Speaker 3: to say he knows this game as Telephone Pictionary. Lindsay
Speaker 3: says she has played a boxed version of this game
Speaker 3: called Telestrations, and then Renata says she played an online
Speaker 3: version of this game called draw Sception. So it seems
Speaker 3: like the idea is so good it has come about
Speaker 3: many times through conversion, evolution.
Speaker 2: Bravo, yeah, or rebranding at least. I mean, all of
Speaker 2: these titles are just far classier than what we were
Speaker 2: dealing with. I like it draw sception especially. That's a
Speaker 2: nice one, all right. Now here's one from Dan. Dan
Speaker 2: writes in and says Kia Orra Robin Joe. I am
Speaker 2: writing in response to your episode on the Telephone Game.
Speaker 2: As my trade is in theater and comedy. Your discussion
Speaker 2: around the recounting of stories via oral tradition and the
Speaker 2: omission of detail via retelling got me thinking about the
Speaker 2: stage play Mister Burns by Anne Washburn. The play deals
Speaker 2: with many of those themes in a very clever and
Speaker 2: funny way. The play is in three distinct acts. The
Speaker 2: first is immediately after a series of simultaneous nuclear meltdowns
Speaker 2: across the grid have reduced the United States to a
Speaker 2: post electrical civilization. A small group of survivors sit around
Speaker 2: a campfire and pass the time and reconnect to their
Speaker 2: pre meltdown lives. They attempt to recall an episode of
Speaker 2: The Simpsons, the spectacular Cape Fear episode. While some of
Speaker 2: them weren't familiar with the show. We see others teaching
Speaker 2: the other individuals the material secondhand. No, No, it's excellent.
Speaker 2: And then he does the thing with his fingers or
Speaker 2: and is it then that he steps on all of
Speaker 2: the rakes. We watch them change a televised story into
Speaker 2: an oral tradition, teaching the characters, the gags and the
Speaker 2: references initiating.
Speaker 3: The acolytes love this already.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, this sounds fun. The second act is
Speaker 2: set approximately twenty years later. The group have become a
Speaker 2: company of traveling players and travel the post electrical wasteland
Speaker 2: performing episodes of The Simpsons Live for Water, Coin and Food.
Speaker 2: We see them rehearsing the couch gag at the start
Speaker 2: of the episode and all dressed in costume as the
Speaker 2: various characters, and see how the Simpsons characters are shifting
Speaker 2: from cartoons to mythic archetypal characters. They're obsessed with getting
Speaker 2: it right. They even do ad breaks, and there's tell
Speaker 2: that over in sector nineteen there's a guy who use
Speaker 2: to work on SNL. The final act, and the hardest
Speaker 2: to pull off, is set seventy five years later. It
Speaker 2: is the staging of what is, to all intents and purposes,
Speaker 2: a religious ceremony where the personal history of the nuclear
Speaker 2: disaster is superimposed onto the narrative of Cape Fear, and
Speaker 2: the Simpson's characters become a representative rather than literal. For example,
Speaker 2: mister Burns aptly becomes the fear of radiation, and add
Speaker 2: in random Britney Spears lyrics you know that He's toxic
Speaker 2: and eminem references you get an incredible glimpse of a
Speaker 2: possible future of storytelling and myth making, all assembled from
Speaker 2: pop culture. The characters in the play build their own
Speaker 2: legends and ways to understand the world, ways to pass
Speaker 2: on their oral history, to warn of the dangers of
Speaker 2: going into nuclear facilities and the hazard of invisible radiation,
Speaker 2: all through song, dance, plain, song, ceremony. The demons Itchy
Speaker 2: and Scratchy, the everyman Homer and his beautiful family, the
Speaker 2: law in order of Chief with them, and always always,
Speaker 2: the encroaching minutes of a spindly nightmarish mister Burns. It's
Speaker 2: quite a ride, and if you get the chance, I
Speaker 2: highly recommend it. Thanks for all you do. The show
Speaker 2: is a regular part of my week and I always
Speaker 2: look forward to new episodes.
Speaker 3: Dan, Wow, that sounds great. I think I would love
Speaker 3: this play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's inventive to keep an eye out
Speaker 2: for anyone putting this on. And indeed, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: a This is something that, like I said, probably capture
Speaker 2: my imagination the most in those episodes. It's the society
Speaker 2: of oral transmission of things that that are culturally important
Speaker 2: and what happens to those things over time and something
Speaker 2: like The Simpsons. I mean it is culturally important. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that we don't think of.
Speaker 2: They're certainly not high culture, but they help us understand
Speaker 2: our lives that it helps us sort of take whatever
Speaker 2: kind of challenges we're facing or Monday details of our
Speaker 2: life and kind of like cast it into some sort
Speaker 2: of maybe not sacred form, but at least some sort
Speaker 2: of like humorous and timeless form that corresponds with the
Speaker 2: with the saga of the Simpsons. Now, as with any
Speaker 2: religious text, there are a lot of books that are
Speaker 2: gonna end up being thrown out. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not a Simpson's completest. I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that you're gonna end up cutting in order
Speaker 2: to have a nice concise scripture.
Speaker 3: Cape fears are gooding to work from, though, Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: This next message is a short response to our Vault
Speaker 3: episodes on the Vegetable Lamb of Tartary. This is from Cindy.
Speaker 3: Cindy says, I submit to you the vegetable ram of Tartary.
Speaker 3: Picture and link to real included below. I think this
Speaker 3: is a screen grab from Instagram. Cindy says, I really
Speaker 3: listened to the Vault episodes on the Vegetable Lamb, and
Speaker 3: then Amy Sidaris posted this video. Decided the coincidence was
Speaker 3: too great not to share. Thanks for all the great
Speaker 3: podcast episodes. They keep me entertained as I progress through
Speaker 3: my day. Cindy, what we're looking at here is like
Speaker 3: an outdoor grill that that has a ram with curling
Speaker 3: horns that might be made of like carrots or peppers
Speaker 3: or something. But the ram's body with all the wool
Speaker 3: is a head of cauliflower and it looks really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. This looks nice. I remember seeing this
Speaker 2: on Amy Sedaris's Instagram. She's one of the few celebrity
Speaker 2: types that I followed because her Instagram game is on point.
Speaker 2: But I didn't put that together. I didn't think, ah,
Speaker 2: vegetable ram of Tartari here very solid.
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing, Cindy, as I'm not on the GRAM
Speaker 3: so I never would have seen this otherwise.
Speaker 2: All right, shall we dive into a little weird house
Speaker 2: cinema listener mail? Oh? Yes, this first one comes to
Speaker 2: us from Carl Sennen, says Dear Robin Joe, thanks for
Speaker 2: featuring the nineteen fifty three House of Wax. This is
Speaker 2: one of the first I remember well do a lock
Speaker 2: to its three D effects and vincent price. I really
Speaker 2: liked learning that it featured several actors and actresses that
Speaker 2: I later liked, but had no idea who they were
Speaker 2: at the time. The scenes I remember the most were
Speaker 2: when Professor Jared drops Burke's body down an elevator shaft
Speaker 2: and when he swings with the grappling hook to Kathy's window,
Speaker 2: both with max three D jump scare effect. Also I
Speaker 2: remember the paddleball sequences, But over the years I lost
Speaker 2: the association with House of Wax. Maybe my nine year
Speaker 2: old mind was trying to make sense of an otherwise
Speaker 2: somewhat random but fun insertion in the plot.
Speaker 3: When you're nine. It's like, you see the thing where
Speaker 3: he like fits that he like knocks the three different
Speaker 3: balls from the paddleballs into his mouth all at the
Speaker 3: same time, and you're just like that, is that unique
Speaker 3: to this or is that just something adults do?
Speaker 2: Or is this the first movie. It's like, I guess
Speaker 2: all movies have this. You're gonna want to have somebody
Speaker 2: doing paddleball tricks during the middle of the movie just
Speaker 2: to keep things rolling. Remember that scene in The Godfather
Speaker 2: where a guy comes out with a pair of paddle balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, We're in the middle of Solaris and
Speaker 3: here comes the paddleballs. The balls go in the mouth,
Speaker 3: the three in the mouth, all in a row, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Carl continues here. At that age, I related much
Speaker 2: more to the Professor Jared character than any others, and
Speaker 2: was rooting for him all the way to the tragic end.
Speaker 2: Price's portrayal of him really brought out the pathos and
Speaker 2: sympathy for his character with formative me As for Vincent Price,
Speaker 2: he was a favorite of my parents, dad, especially later on.
Speaker 2: We had a coffee table book about him that I enjoyed.
Speaker 2: He was quite a refined art expert, epicurean and enophile.
Speaker 2: That means he was a connoisseur of wines, and that
Speaker 2: part helped me appreciate the finer things of life to
Speaker 2: this day. Later, he got me interested in Edgar Allan Post,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite authors and poets. Another reason I
Speaker 2: remember this movie so much is that it was one
Speaker 2: of the few in my early years that we saw
Speaker 2: in a proper theater. Growing up in a small Nebraska town,
Speaker 2: we attended many movies, but usually at the drive in theater,
Speaker 2: which was way more practical for our family of six
Speaker 2: on a tight budget. I really enjoy most weird house
Speaker 2: cinema reviewed movies. I've collected several of them based on
Speaker 2: your deep dives, but this one was extra special, so
Speaker 2: many thanks. Now I need to screen it again, hoping
Speaker 2: I won't be disappointed in its quality without the three
Speaker 2: D enhancement and with my adult perspective, but I'll enjoy
Speaker 2: following the actors more. Best car. Oh and we have
Speaker 2: an almost immediate follow up from Karl, so I'll read
Speaker 2: this as well. Dear Robin Joe, Again, I just finished
Speaker 2: House of Wax, presumably the rewatch here, and I must
Speaker 2: say I certainly misremembered a lot in these seventy intervening years.
Speaker 2: The scares I remember were not at all that scary,
Speaker 2: and the story was more interesting than I remember. I
Speaker 2: think maybe the three D made some effects better in
Speaker 2: the immersive theater experience or something. I also got the
Speaker 2: window entrance wrong. It was Sue, not Kathy. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: did enjoy it and we'll probably watch it again. Just
Speaker 2: wanted you to know that it was a great trip
Speaker 2: down memory lane and a good example of a kid's
Speaker 2: imagination running them up to generate new impressions of past events.
Speaker 2: And the paddleball guy was amazing. Carl. Thanks Carl, Well
Speaker 2: that's great again. I love anytime we get to hear
Speaker 2: about people who got to see any of these movies
Speaker 2: in the theater, be the older or more recent films.
Speaker 2: And you know, this is spot on about Vincent Price.
Speaker 2: I think the Vincent Price element that he brings is
Speaker 2: that he makes just about any villain he plays likable
Speaker 2: on some level, even no matter how far they lean
Speaker 2: into making them dastardly. It's just his portrayal is so alive,
Speaker 2: it's so charismatic. He'll win you over, at least to
Speaker 2: some extent. Maybe he'll cross the lines. Character crosses the
Speaker 2: line at some point in the movie. But you know,
Speaker 2: also a lot of the films he goes in, there's
Speaker 2: a certain balance of camp that allows you to go
Speaker 2: ahead and root for the villain because you're able to
Speaker 2: separate yourself from it. So yeah, even is he's about
Speaker 2: to cover Sue and Wax, you know, you're still at
Speaker 2: least halfway rooting for him.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe he was right to do that, Maybe
Speaker 3: we all should be turned into wax materials. But no, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I said in the Weird House episode, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the Vincent Price magic. Even as Prince Prospero in
Speaker 3: Mask of the Red Death, the character is supposed to
Speaker 3: be just cruelty, decadence and wickedness incarnate, and yet you
Speaker 3: still you kind of like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think we got to wrap it
Speaker 3: up there for today, but we've got plenty more messages
Speaker 3: to read when Listener Mail comes around again next week.
Speaker 2: That's right. And when does it come around, Well, it
Speaker 2: arises from the miss every Monday, that's when listener mail.
Speaker 2: Or but hey, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, that's when when
Speaker 2: you'll encounter our core episodes of Stuff to Blow Your Mind.
Speaker 2: On Wednesdays, a monster fact or an artifact creeps into
Speaker 2: the scenario, and by Friday while there's no stopping a
Speaker 2: weird House cinema episode from rampaging across the feed.
Speaker 3: Huge thanks to our audio producer JJ Posway. If you
Speaker 3: would like to get in touch with us with feedback
Speaker 3: on this episode or any other, to suggest a topic
Speaker 3: for the future, or just to say hello, you can
Speaker 3: email us at contact at stuff to Blow your Mind
Speaker 3: dot com.
Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow Your Mind is production of iHeartRadio. For
Speaker 1: more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.