WEBVTT - Ken Rosenthal's Inside Scoop: Padres sale, Angels coaching changes, Rays on fire + Mariners checkup

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<v Speaker 1>Scoop is back two days in a row for Scoop,

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<v Speaker 1>Little Scoop. We'd like to call him and Fox Fox

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<v Speaker 1>one little Scoop. Ken Rosenthal's here, KP. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>got for us today, Little Scoop?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Never heard him better? Never heard him better? You're muted? Ken, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I couldn't hear you hear me A J I

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<v Speaker 1>do Now that wasn't muted. So I have nothing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have no Scoop, you have no scoop.

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<v Speaker 1>A what do you, Dick Castianos? We have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you questions out and give us answers. That's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you can at all. All right, all right, Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the Padres and Nick Casianos, what does the Padres sale

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<v Speaker 1>takeover mean for not only the Padres.

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<v Speaker 2>But for for the rest of baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's supposed to become official on Monday, that's when

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<v Speaker 3>the owners vote on it. And I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 3>it means for the operation of the team. Now, we

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<v Speaker 3>did see them take on at the deadline with miz

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<v Speaker 3>and Robbie Ray almost five million in salary, So it

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<v Speaker 3>seems that to some extent the financial restrictions that the

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball operation staff have been under for the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years. With the ownership kind of in question, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems they've been listed to some extent. Now, how far

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<v Speaker 3>they go in the future, that is a question that

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<v Speaker 3>we're probably not going to get the answer to, and

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<v Speaker 3>it will only be told by the actions now. As

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<v Speaker 3>for what it means for the sport, it's clearly a

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<v Speaker 3>healthy number for a team that I don't know, ten

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, before Peter Sidler bought them, was considered small market,

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<v Speaker 3>not all that much of a factor in the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>They transform themselves into a factor in the sport with

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<v Speaker 3>the way they spent, and they made the team relevant.

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<v Speaker 3>Not every move has worked out. We all know that

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<v Speaker 3>they still don't want a World Series. We know that,

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<v Speaker 3>but for years now they've been competitive. They been packing

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<v Speaker 3>that ballpark and that is why, in part they commanded

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<v Speaker 3>the value it did. Another part of it is it's

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<v Speaker 3>a California franchise. There are a lot of wealthy people

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<v Speaker 3>in California and there aren't many franchises available for sale.

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<v Speaker 3>So from that perspective too, it's still a healthy number

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<v Speaker 3>for a team like the Padres. And we saw the

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<v Speaker 3>Yankees valued at ten million yesterday with the private equity investment,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know what MLB people are thinking this morning

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<v Speaker 3>with the Lakers sale coming out and the valuation being

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<v Speaker 3>twelve point five billion, why can't we be like that?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of the whole driving force behind the

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<v Speaker 3>salary cap argument for the owners, it would increase franchise values.

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<v Speaker 2>Can do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that there are some of these other small market

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<v Speaker 4>teams that see this number? And I do you believe

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<v Speaker 4>that we'll see some more teams potentially sell in the future,

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<v Speaker 4>like the near future?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know about the near future, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 3>because they want to see people buying the teams, whether

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<v Speaker 3>the labor negotiations go toward a cap or toward a

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<v Speaker 3>current system with revisions. So I would want answers to

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<v Speaker 3>that if I was a person interested in buying a

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<v Speaker 3>team now, once there is an agreement, and particularly if

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<v Speaker 3>there is a cap, Yes, I believe a number of

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<v Speaker 3>owners will get out and try to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 3>the enhanced franchise values. But I still believe that a

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<v Speaker 3>cap is going to be a difficult thing for the

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<v Speaker 3>owners to achieve if they ever achieve it, And there

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<v Speaker 3>are ways, as I've said, and written about many times before,

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<v Speaker 3>to affect change in the economic system of the sport

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<v Speaker 3>without imposing a cap and therefore allowing this renaissance to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>The owners don't see it that way. They are cap

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<v Speaker 3>or nothing, but there has to be in my view,

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<v Speaker 3>some middle grounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Well, the putter has changed the way they do

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<v Speaker 1>business at all now that the Seidler family is officially

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<v Speaker 1>being getting out by selling the team, because that was

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<v Speaker 1>one one of the great things about Peter Siler. He

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're considered a small market, they get forty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand plus fans a game. He was signing the stars,

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<v Speaker 1>the people were coming out, they were making it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they're making money. I know they're saying they're losing money,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like there's somehow, some way the team

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't Someone wouldn't come in and buy the team for

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<v Speaker 1>this much if they were losing their butts every time

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<v Speaker 1>they took the field.

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<v Speaker 2>So will they change the way they do business?

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning will Aj Preller be handcuffed and tied down and

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to go out and do what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Aj that will ever see them operate

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<v Speaker 3>the way they did under Peter Seiler. He was aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that most owners considered too aggressive, and

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps that is a fair assessment. They have some deals

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<v Speaker 3>on their books now that are going to age badly.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that. I do expect though that, as I

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<v Speaker 3>said earlier, they'll be less restrained than they've been the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years. So I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 3>means for them going forward. They've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money on the books already, obviously, so it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a delicate balance, I would say. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, generally speaking, when new ownership comes in, they

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<v Speaker 3>want to make a splash. They want to show the

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<v Speaker 3>fans that hey, we're here, We're serious, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>be good owners, good stewards of the franchise. I would

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<v Speaker 3>expect they're not going to go backwards in payroll.

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<v Speaker 4>And speaking of another team that there's probably a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of baseball fans out there wishing what sell the Angels.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you make of the firing of Mike Maddox,

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<v Speaker 4>and what do you make of the job that John

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<v Speaker 4>Mazelex done, And do you give him a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>credit for kind of getting Artie's attention and actually making

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<v Speaker 4>some moves during the trade deadline and do you believe

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<v Speaker 4>that they keep them long term.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of questions, but I'll try to answer. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I forget them, Kevin, you can remind me.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe he's going to stay long term. I

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<v Speaker 3>do believe he did a good job at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, it was a different direction for them. They

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<v Speaker 3>have not sold in the past and they sold here

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<v Speaker 3>and they seemingly did fairly well and it was impactful.

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<v Speaker 3>So from that perspective, yeah, that's a healthy thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>if John Mizelak has the confidence of Artie Moreno to

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<v Speaker 3>make those kinds of moves, that's a healthy thing. They

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<v Speaker 3>need someone with some gravitas running the ship. He from

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<v Speaker 3>everything I've heard, wants to stay in the job. He

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't actually said that, but all the people around baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>his colleagues, think that he definitely wants it now. As

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<v Speaker 3>for the pitching coach and the other two coaches that

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<v Speaker 3>were fired Maddox, Dom Chidy and Darryl Scott, what Miszelac

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<v Speaker 3>said is telling. He said they weren't using the technology

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<v Speaker 3>available to them, and that's something that he's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to tolerate, quite clearly, because he took their jobs away

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<v Speaker 3>from them, and Miszaelac in the past has shown that

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't do it the way he thinks you

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<v Speaker 3>should be doing it, he is the boss. He may

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<v Speaker 3>make a change. Mike Schilt remember Saint Louis Cardinals, they

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<v Speaker 3>make the playoffs, had this amazing run to end the season,

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<v Speaker 3>and he loses his job because him and Mizelocke were

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<v Speaker 3>not on the same page. So this is a team

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<v Speaker 3>clearly that needs a lot of help. They recognize that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is kind of step one. Recognize the problem and

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<v Speaker 3>then step two act on it. It seems that they

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<v Speaker 3>are doing that. And obviously, when you change coaches after

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<v Speaker 3>saying you wouldn't, something that resulted in friction happened. And

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<v Speaker 3>that is what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I listen again. I love John Mosallic. I

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<v Speaker 1>played for under him at the Cardinals. I know Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Maddox I played for him under the Texas Rangers. They're

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<v Speaker 1>both great.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've known Dom Chidy for thirty years since I was

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<v Speaker 2>in high school. Okay, what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Find ironic is that John Mosallic isn't this one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big things they had about him in Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 1>was that he didn't use the technology and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>use all the analytics, and now he got rid of great.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh jeez, Mike Maddics, not Greg Madics, Mike Maddics because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't use the technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't this kind of weird thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, j That wasn't the issue in Saint Louis. The

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<v Speaker 3>issue was they kind of let the player development system.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Okay, wither Away and Katie Wu reported extensively on

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<v Speaker 3>this at the time. For the athletic they didn't hire

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<v Speaker 3>enough people. They were short. It wasn't an analytics based thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to say in Mike, yeah, Mike Mannix's

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<v Speaker 3>defense that they had some really good things happen with

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<v Speaker 3>they're pitching this year. That is true, Deptbur's and Soriano

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<v Speaker 3>the way they've pitched, Irana the way he is pitched.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched Sammy and Natara last night close out the

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<v Speaker 3>game against the Rangers pretty good. So I know from

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<v Speaker 3>an ERA standpoint, they ranked twenty third or so, and

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<v Speaker 3>they lead the league in walks. Okay, but they did

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<v Speaker 3>have some good things happen. This was clearly as it

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<v Speaker 3>was with shild years back, a philosophical difference, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is why the move.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened, staying in the division. Can what do you make

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<v Speaker 4>of the Seattle Mariners? And you've been covering the game

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<v Speaker 4>a long time, have you ever seen a bigger drop

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<v Speaker 4>off from what cal Rawly did last year to what

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<v Speaker 4>he's doing this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin, Off the top of my head, probably not, And

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<v Speaker 3>certainly if I had time to think about it and

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<v Speaker 3>took some time to think about it, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that if I calculated biggest drop offs since I've been

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<v Speaker 3>covering the game, this would be one of the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't go from sixty home runs to where he

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<v Speaker 3>is right now. And he took accountability for it last

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<v Speaker 3>night speaking to reporters in New York. He said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been very good, but their team hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>very good, and it's so surprising to me. They were

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<v Speaker 3>tied for ninth in runs last year. Now they are thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 3>They are last with on their club Randy Rose, Arena,

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<v Speaker 3>Julia Rodriguez, cal Raley, Josh Naylor, Cole Young is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good player. Cole Emerson, of course, has struggled a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. JP Crawford. They have on this team a

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<v Speaker 3>number of quality offensive players and it just isn't happening

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<v Speaker 3>for them. I don't know the reason for that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of curious, and sometimes if your number one guy

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<v Speaker 3>falls off, as Rally has, that can have this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of effect.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an awful lot to put on cal Raley. The

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<v Speaker 3>other guys have not performed either, and it's a team

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<v Speaker 3>wide thing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, they did fire their third hitting coach Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know that they should definitely get a

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<v Speaker 1>huge difference huge They've done nothing but score ten runs

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<v Speaker 1>every game since they did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken. What about cal Rawley?

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're going to get into this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later, but cal Rawley came out instead of Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson or someone out coming out to answer the questions,

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<v Speaker 1>it was cal Rawley. Do you does that mean anything

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mariners team organization or was it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of something to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Wilson answers questions every night, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>he's ducking them. But cal Raley is the best player

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<v Speaker 3>on the team, or the most accomplished player I guess

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<v Speaker 3>in certain ways on the team, and they're in New

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<v Speaker 3>York last night, and there are more reporters in New

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<v Speaker 3>York and there were probably more questions being asked. So

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<v Speaker 3>he stood there, he answered the questions, and yeah, he

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<v Speaker 3>took a broad approach in saying that the team is

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<v Speaker 3>not performed and they've got to get it together and

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<v Speaker 3>they've got to put yesterday behind them and go forward

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<v Speaker 3>all of the things that you might expect him to say.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't see it as Dan Wilson shirking his responsibilities. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Wilson might be held accountable for all this if

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<v Speaker 3>they missed the playoffs, different story. But Raley was simply

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<v Speaker 3>doing what often players do when they are considered the

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<v Speaker 3>leaders of the team, kind of giving a team wide assessment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna transition to the Blue Jays because talking

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<v Speaker 4>Mariners blue Jays, both teams, you know, went really deep

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<v Speaker 4>in the postseason last year. Blue Jays have been playing

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<v Speaker 4>better baseball recently. They've done a great job keeping themselves

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<v Speaker 4>relevant and they're three and a half games back as

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<v Speaker 4>we sit today. But as a Trey Ya Savage injury

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<v Speaker 4>and the uncertainty coming back just too much for this

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<v Speaker 4>team to overcome.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be Kevin and they have played better. They've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten an injection of talent from the young guys that

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<v Speaker 3>they have. Brett Bateman, Charles McAdoo. Bateman came over, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Gosspan trade has made an immediate impact. Kind of

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<v Speaker 3>shocking to see it happen this quickly. And all that

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<v Speaker 3>is good, but pitching injuries, rotation injuries have kind of

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<v Speaker 3>been the story of their season, along with Lad's power

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<v Speaker 3>outage and all of that. It might be difficult, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>with You Savage going out for them to sustain it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they have played better, and that race for the

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<v Speaker 3>third American League wild card is sort of wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much every team is in it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>rule them out because they are too good. They are

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<v Speaker 3>a team that we saw last year what they could

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<v Speaker 3>do when they are clicking, and they really haven't clicked

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<v Speaker 3>offensively the same way. But the pitching thing, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be tough to overcome. Now they have Cese who

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<v Speaker 3>was good last night, Schureser Bieber, They're not bereft of

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitching, but obviously You Savage was a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of that mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the AA least is tough this year Ken because

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<v Speaker 1>of the rays. The rays won't lose. They won eight

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<v Speaker 1>in a row. Nick Martinez CG in Sacramento. Or it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to pitch last night, right, he's thirty six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the Rays now officially put enough distance between themselves?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's six games now between them and the Yankees?

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<v Speaker 1>Or we can say the Raiser probably going to win

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<v Speaker 1>this division.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we probably can say that, and the odds would

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<v Speaker 3>indicate that six games on August twelfth is not inconsequential.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also not insurmountable. We've seen teams blow leads of

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<v Speaker 3>this nature Detroit Tigers last year, and it can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rays have been quite consistent. The only thing that

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps can stop them is if they slow down a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. They've been playing some weaker competition lately, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the Yankees get healthy and get hot. Can that happen? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>it can happen. But the Rays are for real. We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen that, and last night Taylor Walls home runs from

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the plate. He's the one guy, the

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<v Speaker 3>shortstop who hasn't hit. Actually, they've had a few guys

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<v Speaker 3>who haven't hit, but they have the three big pillars

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<v Speaker 3>in their offense. It's Ronda, it's Kemenero, and it's Yondi Diaz.

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<v Speaker 3>Those three guys plus now Liam Hicks. It's an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>Rays team for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt, no doubt. Can All right, this weekend, you're working?

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<v Speaker 1>Which game are you working?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm working Dodgers at Brewers. I'm sorry, Brewers at Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers State.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, Thank goodness for me that I am not

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<v Speaker 1>in LA this weekend, because two weeks with you is

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<v Speaker 1>enough ken for me. So if I would have had

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<v Speaker 1>to go three weeks in a row, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>had to think about calling in sick this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you. How worried are you about the Brewers

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<v Speaker 2>and their injuries? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>With Terang Joey Ortiz, they're starting to pile up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, ij First of all, I always enjoy working with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry the feeling is not mutual. But anyway, the Brewers, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Pratt is on the injured list and they've got also

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<v Speaker 3>Joey or Tis out right now, so it's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a concern than Terrang. Pat Murphy last night

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<v Speaker 3>revealed he's been playing with the spring thumb. None of

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<v Speaker 3>this is great, none of this is also devastating. So

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<v Speaker 3>they've had an interesting week. They've moved Yellich and Contrasts

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<v Speaker 3>down in the order, and the Padres have beaten them

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<v Speaker 3>around a little bit the last couple of nights. Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Harrison wasn't very good last night. But against the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a measure a test for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll be interesting to see how that turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>The Brewers have been the better team overall this year

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<v Speaker 3>than the Dodgers. Right now, while the Dodgers aren't playing

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<v Speaker 3>particularly great, they might be catching the Brewers at the

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<v Speaker 3>right time because of these physical things that the Brewers

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<v Speaker 3>are dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense, Kenn, Why did you not get a Pope

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<v Speaker 2>at on Saturday? That's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Aj, the Hats didn't do them much good last night,

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<v Speaker 3>did they.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I cannot believe they lost last night. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a four to nothing lead and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself. I was like, man, the number one lock

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<v Speaker 1>in my life should have been the White Sox winning

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<v Speaker 1>on Pope night, and then they blew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, don't thank goodness, but I still lost

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<v Speaker 2>my luck. But anyways, Ken, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean they won on a night. They did win on

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<v Speaker 3>that night. They came from behind, but Pope night not great.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, Ken, that's that's sacrilegious of you

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Ken, So I'm gonna not hold it against you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken this weekend, uh Dodgers Brewers, Brewers, Dodgers actually in

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's welcome on Seattle Times. Be reporter for

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Mariners that cannot seem to win a game,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Davis. Check out his great articles in the Seattle Times. Hey, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>looks like you're in a hotel. You must be in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City. This ain't Montana. Even though your shirt

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<v Speaker 1>says Montana Till I Die. New York City is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different than Montana.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just kind of slightly. I mean, my hometown has

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<v Speaker 7>got about seven thousand people. They're probably more than that

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<v Speaker 7>in Central Park today when I was out walking around.

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<v Speaker 7>So it is a little bit of a culture shock.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been coming here for twenty years and it still

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<v Speaker 7>gets to be a little overwhelming. You put me in

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<v Speaker 7>the mountains, I'll find my way out. I can tell

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<v Speaker 7>you which way is north. You put me in a

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<v Speaker 7>city and I end up getting lost in Central Park

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<v Speaker 7>and ending up in Harlem wandering around going where the

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<v Speaker 7>hell am I? So it's always fun coming to New York,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's just it's a little bit culture shock for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you know this or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but the streets are numbered, so you can just count.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just just throwing that up.

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<v Speaker 8>I have to wear my glasses and I can't be

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<v Speaker 8>doing in public.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Question for you, is this season over for the Seattle

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<v Speaker 4>Manners or do they have any fight left in them?

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<v Speaker 8>It's certainly circling the drain.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys were talking about the Rays, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the Mariners just got swept by the Rays before coming here,

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<v Speaker 7>and I was I've covered Bowl series, but absolutely impressed

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<v Speaker 7>with how the Rays do everything, and the Mariners are

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<v Speaker 7>just doing all the opposite things of that. They're not

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<v Speaker 7>playing well, they're not hitting with runners in the scoring positions,

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<v Speaker 7>they're not hitting for any power to make little mistakes

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<v Speaker 7>in the field.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, their their middle relief is pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 7>But really they just they can't put together a complete

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<v Speaker 7>nine innings right now to save their lives. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>like you watch them play and it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like mind numbing to see what's going to go wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>They take an early lead, they give it right back.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no shutdown innings, you know, or they they have

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<v Speaker 7>a close player. They need to make a play in

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<v Speaker 7>the field. It doesn't necessarily have to be like a

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<v Speaker 7>highlight reel play, but it needs to be a winning play.

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<v Speaker 7>They aren't making it, you know, things like that. And

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<v Speaker 7>like even last night when they gave up two runs early.

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<v Speaker 7>They hit a ball Grisham, it's with Christian Wore maybe

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<v Speaker 7>it's Hedges hits the ball, or well it's hits the

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<v Speaker 7>ball into the triangle and right field. They don't make

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<v Speaker 7>the play. You know, Taylor Word's playing too deep, doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>get a read on it. Cul Young can't get back

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<v Speaker 7>Julio is playing the other way. They came back. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>the ball drops, it loads the bases again, another single

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<v Speaker 7>on a ground ball through. So it's like all the

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<v Speaker 7>things you need to do to be a winning team,

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<v Speaker 7>they're just not doing it. And that you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>have seen nothing that says they're going to come out

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<v Speaker 7>of this. You know, this is trip is pretty brutal.

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<v Speaker 7>It's New York all by three in Houston, all by

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<v Speaker 7>three in Milwaukee. You know, you can get away with

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<v Speaker 7>going four and five or even three and six if

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<v Speaker 7>you win a couple against Houston. You know, if they

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<v Speaker 7>if they go three and six but leaves two to Houston,

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<v Speaker 7>I think that, you know, mathematically'd be pretty difficult.

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<v Speaker 8>Even with the easiest their schedule is in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't ease up after that.

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<v Speaker 1>They go they play the Cubs at home and the

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<v Speaker 1>Phillies at home, two teams that are really I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it must get reallyas in September because the end of

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<v Speaker 1>August is a is a bastard to get through. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how much blame falls on Dan Wilson for this, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not advocating for Dan Wilson to lose his job,

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<v Speaker 1>So please don't don't confuse this at all. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're the manager and you're Jerry Depoto and you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it and you say, man, we made this. We

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<v Speaker 1>were two innings away from going to the first ever

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<v Speaker 1>time to the World Series last year, and now this

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.959
<v Speaker 1>year we can't get out of our own way. How

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<v Speaker 1>much of this, unfortunately falls on the manager.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you ask the fan base one, but

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 7>it comes with the territory of the job. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think anybody believes that Alex Cora is a bad manager.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know what, the Red Sox were just in

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<v Speaker 7>a position where it wasn't working. Nothing was working. It

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<v Speaker 7>didn't seem to be like anything he could do to

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<v Speaker 7>make it better.

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<v Speaker 8>So they moved on.

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 7>And Rob Thompson had taken the Phillies to a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of success, but it just wasn't working. You know, in

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 7>any other scenario, I think the Mariners probably would have

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<v Speaker 7>moved on from from the manager.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you look at how they're playing.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think they have one of the worst

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 7>records in baseball since July first. They're playing like three

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.360
<v Speaker 7>thirty three baseball. But I don't know, given who Dan

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 7>Wilson is within the organization. I don't know that they're

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<v Speaker 7>going to go down that road. I do think there

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 7>is some lame on him in the sense that, like

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<v Speaker 7>so much of what he's done about ceding power to

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<v Speaker 7>the players and allowing the players to police themselves and

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 7>kind of turning the clubhouse over the players, that's all

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<v Speaker 7>well and good, but like when you're seeing these mistakes,

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<v Speaker 7>the lack of focus or the lack of attention to detail,

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 7>then that falls upon you to make some changes and

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 7>take some of that power away and say, hey, look now,

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<v Speaker 7>this isn't working. And you know what, we've given you

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 7>the privilege, you've abused it, so we're going to take

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<v Speaker 7>some of it back. And whether that's you know, calling

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 7>out a player publicly or benching a player or doing

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<v Speaker 7>something different, I think you have to look at that.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, it all falls on the manager because

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 7>he's the one who's overseeing it all, and he's overseeing

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 7>the player's police in the clubous, he's overseeing his assistant

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 7>coaches and how they handle stuff, and then also some

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 7>of the endgame decisions.

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<v Speaker 8>They're just kind of curious.

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<v Speaker 7>I know they rely heavily on data points, and which

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<v Speaker 7>is funny because he was more of a managed by

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<v Speaker 7>the gut guy last year, which is why we saw

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<v Speaker 7>Bizardo in Game seven of the LCS, And this year

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<v Speaker 7>he's kind of got regressed to the other side, and

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<v Speaker 7>it feels like he's sticking very rigidly to some of

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<v Speaker 7>the data points or some of the pregame planning that

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 7>they have and not really adjusting with what he's seeing

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<v Speaker 7>within the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And no matter what offensive statistic you look at, the

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 4>Mariner's rank near the bottom in it. My question is,

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<v Speaker 4>with so many teams in the American League still being competitive,

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<v Speaker 4>do you believe the Mariners missed an opportunity to potentially

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 4>trade one of their starting pitchers in order to help

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 4>this offense long term?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean I think so, just because the value

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 7>of this starting pitcher is probably never higher than it

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<v Speaker 7>was going to be.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, like George.

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 7>Kirby, if you put them out there, there are a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of teams that are very interested in George Kirby.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm wondering though, you know, they went.

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<v Speaker 7>And got Taylor Ward, who was one of the better

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 7>bats available on the market as a rental, but I'm

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 7>wondering what.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 8>The hitters market truly was.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, in terms of who was available, maybe somebody

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 7>that's got some club control moving forward. You know, there

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<v Speaker 7>just wasn't a lot of teams selling. You know, like

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 7>even like when Miami was dangling.

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<v Speaker 8>Otto Lopez out there, You're like, okay, well, why are

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 8>they doing that and what's what's it going to cost.

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<v Speaker 7>I do think that they if they don't do it now,

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<v Speaker 7>since they didn't do it at the trade that line,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 7>it's something they have to look at going into the

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 7>off season before that, you know, before the expected lockout,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 7>make a trade, because you're gonna you saw have Kate

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 7>Anderson there waiting to come up.

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<v Speaker 8>You have five stars. Now he's Ryan Sloan. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 8>I think you do have.

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<v Speaker 7>To look at that and say, okay, George Kirby Willing,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 7>is he somebody's gonna sign an extension? Is he's somebody

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 7>they want to sign to an extension? If not, maybe

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 7>you dangle him out there and see what you can get.

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<v Speaker 7>I tell you, like the way hitting is right now,

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<v Speaker 7>like Randy or Roserena couldn't have picked better walk her

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 7>performance than he has because like the lack of right

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 7>handed hitting and competent right handed hitting available and what

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 7>it's going to be available on the market. Randy's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>get a hundred million dollars, no doubt in my mind.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 7>And that's upped considerably to where he was when the

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 7>Mariners acquired him a couple of years ago, and it

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 7>was trending downward with the Rays.

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<v Speaker 8>He's he's made himself some money this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. They did trade a starting pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>They traded Luis Castio to the White Sox, So thank

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you very much, I think thank you.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean, honestly, like when when Jerry was able to

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 7>trade Luis and they took on all that money and

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 7>they even got money back on that, and they got

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 7>a really good prospect, and they got some guys like

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, okay, this is you know, I was like, man,

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 7>this is almost as impressive when he was able to

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 7>trade Robinson Cano's contract a few years ago. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't think that was you know, it

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 7>was tough seeing Castile go and he was a guy

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 7>that really had a lot of a lot of presence

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 7>in the clubhouse, in a calmbing presence, but you know,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 7>they had to make that move.

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<v Speaker 8>It was just getting kind of counterproductive having six stars.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I wish, I wish you would have had

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<v Speaker 1>you on I don't think we did when they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing the piggyback thing, because we all said it was

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a terrible idea, and they were Everyone was saying, Oh,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they're so happy doing this, Like I know they're not happy.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>These guys want to pitch every fifth day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to get into that because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so long ago. But anyways, I want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Caloraly what happened last night. Cal Rawly was the first

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>one out, not Brian Wu finally pitched ball on the road, right,

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Not Dan Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Cal Rawly.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this just him trying to step up for the

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>team and just put all the pressure on him and

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>take it off the rest of the team.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think so.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 7>I think Cal's very aware of what his performance is

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 7>and how much he's struggling.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 8>And you know, I wrote on Monday.

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<v Speaker 7>Just kind of about the prospects of firing Dan Wilson,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 7>how I didn't think it was going to happen based

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 7>on who he was within the organization, that maybe they'd

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 7>make a decision after the season.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, Cal walked out there. We weren't expecting it.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 8>He still had his spikes on.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 7>I think he had just taken the tape off, but

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 7>like he's sweating, and he just basically had struck out

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 7>tend the game and went in, dropped his stuff off,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 7>and came out and told the PR person that he

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to go talk to these guys. And it's

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 7>it's kind of an old school thing, you know, something

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 7>he probably picked up from Deeger or Mitch Hannagher when

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 7>he was when he was a rookie. They would do

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 7>that at times, stand there and kind of wear it.

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 7>Nelson Cruiz and did it a lot. And I think

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 7>I think he wants to take some accountability for how

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 7>he's playing, how this team's played, and maybe deflect a

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 7>little bit of some of the pressure off the ban

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 7>or his teammates, you know.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 8>And as he said, he's been awful.

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 7>Like if cal Rawley is even a cal Rawley of

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 7>twenty four where he's hitting thirty five bombs, you know,

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 7>driving in ninety or whatever, they're not seven games or

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 7>eight games under five hundred, they're right or probably above

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 7>five hundred. I mean, like the production that you know

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 7>so much was built around him, and he to be worse.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 8>That even his worst year is a huge issue for

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 8>the team and I think he understands it. I think

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 8>he's frustrated that he can't find his way out of it.

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 8>And I think what you're seeing at times is he's

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 8>trying too.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 7>Hard to find his way out of it because he

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 7>knows that so much of the issues kind of stem

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 7>from him and move outward. You know, whether that's fair

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 7>or not, because there's been a lot of failures on

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 7>his team, but like you know, he's kind of what

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 7>makes them go. You know, last year they had some

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 7>issues offensively, but when you have a guy that hit

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 7>sixty bombs and drives in one forty, it covers.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 8>Up a lot of your warts. And that's what happened.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Like when they needed a big hit, they're down too,

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 7>he'd hit a three run homer. They're just not kidding

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 7>that they're not getting anything from him, And I think

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 7>he just felt like he better step up and say something.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 8>He's done this one other time this year.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 7>It was in Miami, I believe they were really scuffling,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 7>and he got up kind of just talked about it.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 7>But in that situation too, they had played unbelievably sloppy

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 7>baseball and all the speed and the pressure that Miami

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 7>puts on teams made them look just slow and kind

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 7>of out of it, and they made a bunch of

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 7>mental mistakes.

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 8>So he kind of stepped forward and said, hey, we

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 8>can't play like this.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 7>But this one was just basically him laying so much

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 7>of the blame for everything that's gone wrong on himself

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 7>and promising that he would do better. I mean, like,

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 7>you weren't expecting it. I'm not surprised, but you weren't

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 7>expecting it. But that's kind of who Cal is as

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 7>a player and a person. You know, he's a coach's kid,

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 7>and he understands and he knows how to read the

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 7>room pretty well.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 4>All Right, last one for me, because you're speaking of,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, taking the blame. I was, and I don't

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 4>want to bring up a source subject. I was in

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 4>the building game seven last year when George Springer hit

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 4>that home run.

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Is part of.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Cow struggles and this team struggles a hangover effect from

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 4>that going deep into the postseason, losing in that dramatic way,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 4>and Cal specifically the amount of work he did last

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 4>year in order for this team to get to that position,

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 4>how many games he caught, never taking off day. Do

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 4>you believe this is all catching up to not only Cal,

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 4>but the Seattle Marinerds as well.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 7>I don't think you're wrong in thinking that, Like with

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 7>Cal specifically, you know, he caught a ton last year

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<v Speaker 7>and he always used the word the phrase motion is lotion,

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<v Speaker 7>and that he felt less so the more he played

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<v Speaker 7>that he accumulated a lot of games, a lot of

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 7>it bats. Then you know, he didn't take a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of time off this offseason because.

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<v Speaker 8>He wanted to ramp up for the World Baseball Classic.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 7>He changed up, he started his training earlier, He started

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 7>doing stuff earlier because he wanted to be ready for

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 7>the World Baseball Classic. Obviously that didn't go as planned,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and I think he found out like how

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<v Speaker 7>difficult it was to stay prepared during the WBC when

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 7>you don't have hours upon hours of time at the

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<v Speaker 7>park to do your routine because there's other teams playing.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like a travel ball tournament where you go it's

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<v Speaker 7>almost like a show and go every day. I think

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<v Speaker 7>that was an issue and like he just and what

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<v Speaker 7>happened was I think with all that the WBC and

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<v Speaker 7>kind of the truncated schedule, he tried to cram everything

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<v Speaker 7>that he missed into four or five days leading into

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<v Speaker 7>the season, and I think that's what set him up

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit for that oblique injury that held just

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 7>kind of wore his body down so quickly trying to

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<v Speaker 7>get ready for this season, trying to get everything back,

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<v Speaker 7>you know. I talked with him right before the All

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<v Speaker 7>Star break, and he talked about understanding that they can't

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<v Speaker 7>make what happened, can't find the magic that they had

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<v Speaker 7>last year, and just expected like everything that they did

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 7>last year isn't just going to happen because a lot

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 7>of the same guys are back this year. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>different team, and you can't just fast forward to the

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<v Speaker 7>postseason because you're good or because you believe you're.

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<v Speaker 8>Better, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that's what he realized, that it was

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<v Speaker 7>even harder to get back to doing to where they

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 7>were before, given you know, all they accomplished and all

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.959
<v Speaker 7>the expectations, and they talked about it, they talked about

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<v Speaker 7>going the World Series, and what they found out is

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<v Speaker 7>like you just can't.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't start your season in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 7>The games and April May, April May and June matter,

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<v Speaker 7>and they started playing poorly. And I think it's just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of snowballed on them, and they spent so long

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get back and saying, Okay, we can do this.

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<v Speaker 7>We've done this last year, and maybe it's got to

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<v Speaker 7>be a different thinking because just because they did it

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<v Speaker 7>last year doesn't mean they can do it this year.

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<v Speaker 8>Aja.

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<v Speaker 7>You remember when we were down in Atlanta, I think,

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 7>and they were bad down there, Sal shubbed on and

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 7>then Julio made a couple of ridiculous plays. The next

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 7>day they scored eighteen after that, and then they want

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 7>a heater. I don't know that the team is capable

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 7>of doing that, and nothing we've seen it from them

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 7>says they are. The talent is certainly there, but like

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 7>to sit there and say, Okay, we did this last year,

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 7>we got on a heater late, and we're able to

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 7>get there. I don't think that's logical to say it

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<v Speaker 7>now because it's a different team, a different makeup, and

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 7>a different set of issues than they had a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why making the playoffs is such a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>ryan for teams, and that's why it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs on baseball. We'll see what happens with

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the Mariners, though we know we're all rooting for him,

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and good thing they got rid of Bobby Maggie On

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<v Speaker 1>that's just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a mean spirited fellow. So thanks Ryan, don't

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<v Speaker 1>Forget to Thanks guys, don't forget to check out more

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<v Speaker 1>of his work at the Seattle Times.