WEBVTT - #304 - Eric Bellinger

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all. It's good as your boy, Eric Belinger, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you check me out on a bootleg CAV podcast, It's

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<v Speaker 1>Easy Boulet CAV podcast. We got a special guest in here,

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<v Speaker 1>my guy, one of the most prolific R and B

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<v Speaker 1>singers and writers. Come on, baby B just finished this tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Bellinger is here. Yeah, man, we're here, We here.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats on another successful tour. Thank you, dog. I appreciate you. Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Always amazing. To finish up, relax and chop it up

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<v Speaker 1>with the home. What's the first thing you do, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you get off tour? Like? Is it like? How's

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<v Speaker 1>that first day? Are you relaxing your kids? Very first day? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very first day. I came home. When I was unpacking

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer and unloading all the suitcases, they came home

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<v Speaker 1>from school. Daddy got that moment off and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything for the rest of the day. I make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I just dedicated that night to them. But better believe,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up the next day back to it, back

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<v Speaker 1>to it, multiple interviews, multiple sessions. So yesterday I went crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and today it's the second day off and we already

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<v Speaker 1>back at it. At the second interview to day. You

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<v Speaker 1>definitely you have a song you're pushing, you got an album, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get your your tours over. But the work,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was saying, man, that's what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to sign up for both. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ourtists don't know that. They just like

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<v Speaker 1>they just want to drop it and to go viral.

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<v Speaker 1>But you really really got to go crazy with the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing once the songs out, to let the people know

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. Man. Yeah, I was gonna say for you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do the work life balance with the family.

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<v Speaker 1>And because you're a hard working guy, you're always in sessions,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always moving around, Like what's the key to that?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's like, especially you can start off

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<v Speaker 1>with like weekends, like trying to be like, yo, weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a day where we hang aside for

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. Yeah, set aside for the kids, wifey. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make sure we do a day night at

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<v Speaker 1>least every two weeks or something, you know, every week

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah, you would love that, but you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>real with yourself and not set too high expectations. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you get that extra day, then you're good. But

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to really push and not have the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure while still having the support has been a blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Every two weeks. I like that minimum. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>push that to my wife. But to go eat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you know, we gotta get a sitter, got

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<v Speaker 1>to get the babysitter. Man, gotta do it because it's important. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep falling in love your new album. How many

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<v Speaker 1>records is it? Fourteen fourteen? Obviously the core day record

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<v Speaker 1>in Fabulous record is dope. I guess actually popping on

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<v Speaker 1>the video shoot for that you shot at super Bowl, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl weekend in AZ Yeah, man, you were, you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at you like the pivotal moment for me

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<v Speaker 1>even shooting a video, shooting the curious video, Bro, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean Like JD told me that you had

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<v Speaker 1>booked fab for the weekend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah for

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<v Speaker 1>the club, for your club, and I saw a window

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<v Speaker 1>of being able to be in the same place at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. We had a show in a z

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<v Speaker 1>as well around the same time. Yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the same week it was, yeah, yeah, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, let's make it happen. Corder, can we

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<v Speaker 1>get him there? He was down. We flew him in town,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was started because you and you guys. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to y'all for putting my club in the video.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yes, we were like yo. The club

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<v Speaker 1>scenes are definitely from eleven eleven in Scott Still. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good times man man for you, like how because

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<v Speaker 1>when you're an album mode and you're because you're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that. We did a radio interview in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, but we got to kind of reflect on

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<v Speaker 1>how many bodies of work you have at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>How many is it now? It's like thirty eight, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like closing of forty if you include like mixtapes and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like on the on the album is on just

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes. I have like twenty eight or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's so many that I couldn't put on iTunes,

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<v Speaker 1>so like Spotifyune last twenty eight. Yeah, do you damn

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<v Speaker 1>When did you first like really dive into the full

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<v Speaker 1>time artist grime? Yeah? When I dropped Got twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen. It doesn't feel like very long ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you've been on that way now because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been dropping. I would say like twenty ten twenty ten

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<v Speaker 1>is when I put my very first mixtape out ten

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<v Speaker 1>ten ten, and I think it just was a grind

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<v Speaker 1>of me dropping projects just out of I create so

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<v Speaker 1>many that I'm dropping, not knowing that they would eventually

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<v Speaker 1>amount to streams that pay monthly royalty, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It was just like I'm dropping. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an independent, Damn, I should be signed to a major.

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<v Speaker 1>I should be signed to a major. Little do I

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<v Speaker 1>know that me owning my masters would give me a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger piece of the pie at the end of the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can only assume when you have twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>projects out, it's like kind of like residual income. Just

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<v Speaker 1>hitting that account every month. That's it. That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Once started piling, I was like, oh, why do they

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<v Speaker 1>need it? Like what is that for? It's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>if you need the really the label is if you

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<v Speaker 1>need the upfront nut at that time. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is like, so you don't you don't use

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<v Speaker 1>your own money, you know, that's time. That's fine. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>like some artists, like you know, I think a major

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<v Speaker 1>label system probably better suit some artists like lazier guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, guys who kind of lazier guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just like if you're going to be independent,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the work is it's strenuous, it's a lot. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta wear multiple hats for sure. You know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to take a note and you know, flip

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<v Speaker 1>it and be on for you Like, uh, talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about just like the day to day stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you handle being independent. Obviously you're with Empire, who's doing distribution,

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<v Speaker 1>who helps the label services, but like what are you

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<v Speaker 1>handling as eb Yeah? Man, so I'm tapping into the

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<v Speaker 1>storyline of the album. So you got the writing creative

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, then you got the mixing process. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to think of what the artwork is gonna be,

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<v Speaker 1>the colors, the aesthetic. Now you got single artwork, every

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<v Speaker 1>single attached and coinciding with the previous to remind people

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<v Speaker 1>that this is all for one body of work. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you got a photo shoot that is intentional to take

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<v Speaker 1>people back to a time. So I'm bringing out the leather.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leather headed toe with the R and B energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we got to talk about music videos, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the line with the directors I'm planning, I'm picking,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm casting, I'm looking for the for the ladies. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking to emails, shout out the emails. Diddy always came through.

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<v Speaker 1>We shot four videos with my guy and brought nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but beautiful ladies to go crazy in the videos with

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<v Speaker 1>us Man, the styling of the videos. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the marketing. You're putting your fingerprints on everything. Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that I don't know that's happening. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like I just heard Russ say this

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<v Speaker 1>recently that he feels like music videos aren't as effective

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<v Speaker 1>as they used to be at this point. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a branding thing in terms of in terms of just

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<v Speaker 1>like the ROI on streams, Yeah, see that. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>we spend more on music videos then you'll get from

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<v Speaker 1>the music video stream wise. You have to stream like

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<v Speaker 1>or it has to have like certain amounts, so many commercials. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before you can even get the return on investment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can think like a good music video, like

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<v Speaker 1>a good one, Yeah, spend at least five grand exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking about that today. A good one, good one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get a decent one for like twelve. Look

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a homie with a camera and you

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<v Speaker 1>got some fucking aspirations and you're willing to take some

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, you nat Yeah, get that right, lighting You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna make a difference in the long run

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<v Speaker 1>to just do it right the first time instead of

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to go back and shoot another music video

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<v Speaker 1>and now the streams are you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta do it right the first time. Talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about your uh your just I feel like every

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Brown album you somehow have your fingerprints on and

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<v Speaker 1>some capacity. Yeah, how did you guys first link up

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<v Speaker 1>and just talk about why he trusts you so much? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's also a great writer. He is, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I you know, I definitely don't take it lightly,

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<v Speaker 1>just that you know that trust. The first song we

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<v Speaker 1>did was called Champion. It was for a London artist

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<v Speaker 1>named Chipmunk. Harmony called me in for the session. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the hook and he just recut the hook and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, whoever did that, whoever that was singing,

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to work on my next album. So

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<v Speaker 1>he brought the whole team with Harmony and myself and

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney and we all went to the man straight in

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Brown. You know what I mean. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually in London working and had to get

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<v Speaker 1>a call to come back the next day. Literally like

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<v Speaker 1>I landed, had to go right back. I didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>no work, and we got in with him and wrote

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<v Speaker 1>all the songs on Fame, Oh My Love. Champion ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going on there say It with Me and then

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<v Speaker 1>that joint. One of his first Grammy was Fame, the

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<v Speaker 1>first album after kind of the whole shin dig Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with the graffiti kind of art yep. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of his comeback. That was the one and

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<v Speaker 1>it got a Grammy. So it's like we was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in such a pivotal moment. I felt like it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep doing it. Yeah, And then you did find Channa,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, Find China record. Man, That's that's my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, when you write a song like find China,

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<v Speaker 1>are you with him or do you send it to him?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you send it to him, are you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hoping he doesn't want it so you keep it

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself? Nah? I'm with him, Okay, Yeah, I'm with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the songs that are like the big ones

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<v Speaker 1>like New Flame and Love More There. Yeah, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm by my myself, a lot of them songs nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't be playing him for nobody, you know. For one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I'm gonna keep this and I can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I want with it, and it's gonna benefit me

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<v Speaker 1>more low key to have ownership of the song, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to if I go to a session and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody else, that's their studio time, they pay for that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's most likely they beat. So I'll never really be

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<v Speaker 1>too connected. I'm always like pouring all my energy into

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. Was Usher in the session for New Flynn?

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<v Speaker 1>Usher was not? Usher was not he's on that song? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on that song. Who else? Somebody else? Someone else's

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<v Speaker 1>singing a song. Yeah, I feel like there's a rapper room. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't Rick Cross. Somebody's on that song. It might

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<v Speaker 1>just be him an Usher, it might be I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm missing a rapper. You're fucking no, you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby bab my guy over there, big Yeat fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you listened to Yeat? I've just seen his logo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's popping this fuck just seeing it pop up on

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<v Speaker 1>the page. I don't get it. It's not for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get the name. Hey, it's so many things that

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<v Speaker 1>come out now. I'm like, Wow, it's so many different

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<v Speaker 1>names of new people and artists, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>I just respect it because I remember when it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this Ic Bellinger guy? Up? All? We gotta stop

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<v Speaker 1>what do you feel like, because I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there has been a dopeer surgence in like R and

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<v Speaker 1>B in the world right now, but you've been pushing

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<v Speaker 1>through the whole wave. Yeah, And I feel like your

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<v Speaker 1>first project comes out in twenty ten, which I refer

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<v Speaker 1>was like this was like the lady guy guy and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only one still Yeah, And so like you're

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<v Speaker 1>like for you, like you've been through so many eras

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<v Speaker 1>what was it like to not be cool to be

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<v Speaker 1>the R and B guy? Mm? Because you're thinking Neo's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest songs are the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean or on the floor joints. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was not only did the R and

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<v Speaker 1>B not become as popular, but I was also I

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<v Speaker 1>was also I was also singing at a time and

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the cool, Like everybody wasn't bowed up. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like bagels, Like we were being married and making

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew like yo. Also shout out to Miguel

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<v Speaker 1>going big time the jump, Sure this is the big boy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you really in there, yeah and you in there walk, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different. Different, So the commitment was like I was dedicated.

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<v Speaker 1>We've ribe, we've we vibed it out, and she held

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<v Speaker 1>So that sustained me and my fans really just let

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<v Speaker 1>me know, like, yo, thank you for being the only

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<v Speaker 1>so me just giving people another option, it became the standard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it became the new wave after people got tired

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<v Speaker 1>of disrespecting and being disrespected. Yeah, there was also, like

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<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, there was the super toxic R and

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<v Speaker 1>B ship where it was like, Jesus Christ, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it was going crazy. Trey song, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>talks R and B of all time, Jesus Christ. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like where the love go. God damn it, it was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gone. I was just like, yo, I'm here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it for applause. I do it for

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<v Speaker 1>a cause, you know what I'm saying I love that. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this a little bit, but okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole album with hit Maker. He has had

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<v Speaker 1>very different guys, so different. Hit Boy is obviously touching

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<v Speaker 1>an NPC in front of hip Boy, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I look at hip Maker

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<v Speaker 1>a hit record. What are your thoughts on this whole thing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hit Boy and hit Maker, Oh man, I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about that music, that's it, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Like hit Maker is, you know, conducting the

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<v Speaker 1>session and hit Boy is literally producing and musically engineering

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<v Speaker 1>the session. But hit Maker's argument wasn't about the talent

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But to hit Boy's argument,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not even tripping on the radio, I don't eve

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<v Speaker 1>think he's trying to be on the radio. He's not.

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<v Speaker 1>And also for the record, I mean, this guy's done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that song is still you know, and hit Maker is

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<v Speaker 1>only about your current right now, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. But hit boys like Yo, I'm playing seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the generations to come to discover my music,

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<v Speaker 1>not for sure. And he's like the the Nash is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tapped in. That's

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<v Speaker 1>influencing a generation of making beats like that can't go undermine.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever worked with hit Boy? Yeah, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times. What was the difference kind of I guess studio.

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<v Speaker 1>So with hit Boy it was a much slower process

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<v Speaker 1>with hit Maker, he's speedy gon solid in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>But we we got the next one. Okay, you got an

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<v Speaker 1>idea going to book? Okay, next one, Okay, next one,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a next one, next one, next one. In

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<v Speaker 1>three hours, you got five songs. He's worrying about it tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing tomorrow? And then a week later he

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<v Speaker 1>what you been working on? He has thirty options to play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>He's selective who he's working with, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's more of like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like because I've been in the studio, I've

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:20.879
<v Speaker 1>been in the studio with him, make us for a

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<v Speaker 1>sec But hip Boy is very like intentional. That's what said.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to go over to Childie and work

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>with him, like block out the night exactly exactly were chilling,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a loop on. We might fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with something and then he might be like, hold on,

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>let me switch that idea, start something over, because you

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>know the foundation is music, and you know I just

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 1>think they they they they They stand for different things,

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>but they both represent the same thing, a hit, and

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they're both very good at what they do. Yes, sir,

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>at a high level, like when you get with hit Maker,

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<v Speaker 1>because do you feel like you guys are like his

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 1>factory process. I feel like you're kind of a go

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<v Speaker 1>to asset for him in terms of like when you're

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>laying hooks down for him, do you know that they're

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>just they might end up somewhere else? Yeah, for sure,

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>for sure, because he's shopping them actively with your hook

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>on it tell the artists immediate. He was like, Yo,

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I got a tie coming by this week. I got

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>this beat. I need you on it. This one, it

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>got your name all over it. Boom, I come through.

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's such a great song. By the way, that album

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is super slept on. Yeah, my TI album was fucking raw.

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what made me be like, oh no, no, no,

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going over there. Were about to work. What's up Chrishan,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>what's up? Hit Maker? What's up? Source? You know, and

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>when you link up with them and you can add

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 1>your own flavor, I think that's when you be able

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to differentiate it yourself and keep your uniqueness. I also

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>think Jeremih is another one of the great songwriters of

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>our time who don't get enough credit in that aspect.

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree. I think he's another person that's

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>not really tripping on like the fame, the bride lights,

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the music videos, like the tour like he's just like, man,

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I love I'm from Chicago, I love making music, and

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>all the shit that I'm spending is real and the

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>real niggas connect with it and that's it. And you know,

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that keeps his core and his solid foundation stable.

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Why did you never decide to sign with a major label.

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I always felt like I had more that I could

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>do on my own, you know, like I felt like

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I still can do this, or I haven't got all

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>this off, or I haven't exhausted my resources, or I

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't you know, had the right timing of the right album.

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know. It was just never anyone that

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>saw what I saw in myself. Was it because you

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>never got the Because I would say that, like the

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>deal terms got to be right. Yeah, the bread gotta

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>be right. If you're smart, like you can just sign

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>it's put in front of you. You You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so,

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 1>and it was like we always had enough success to

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>make me feel like we were good, Like we're good,

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>We're good. But I don't know. We live in a

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>new day and age. Man. I definitely feel like, you know,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with where I'm at, I'm not at the same place

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was trying to break myself to gain my

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>own fan base. You know, now that I have a

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>fan base, now, let's market on a heavy scale, on

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a heavy you know scale. But before then, it's like, man,

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you got to build it, you know, And I was

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I was happy with just building the building it for

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the sake of leverage. You and AD did a whole

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>album together in twenty eight nineteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that was like eighteen. It was definitely like pandemic times.

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>It was before the pandemic. It had to be yah, yeah,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I was. I met to you guys released part of

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it was it was before. It was the last one

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>before the pandemic. It was called nine. And I remember

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>coming back from Mexico. We went to the session and

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I had all these different memorabilia from Mexico. I was

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>wearing a poncho and h they hit you with that

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're in line waiting to get over the border.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>There's all those people just try selling everything. So I

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>went to the studio, still in formed, talking Spanish, playing

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with them. He was like, Man, I'm calling you Pancho Belly.

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling Poncho Belly. And then we started like joking

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>around and bro. We did like nine songs in two days,

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, I was a project. What you

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>like to see him kind of evolve into a media

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>personality and do his podcasting. Dope, it's the evolution of nine.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when we were dropping that, we were

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>making videos and being community characters and yeah, but now

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to see him with community, it's like dog, that's who

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he He's a character, you know. So now for him

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be himself make everybody laugh even

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in his music, I got the juice. When you hear that,

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to laugh. You know. It's a good guy.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>So happy for him. Who's on your mount? Rushmore of

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>R and B music, R and B music. Let's say,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>let's let's say from nineteen ninety two to now. All right,

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go with man, that's a tough one because

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to go laugh a little bit, but you can't.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't really avoid people like Cisco back in the day,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>love Cisco. Cisco big inspiration for you because you've done

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the other hair things. Yea completes my ship. Drew's my favorite.

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>All is my song that I sing that at all

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of the fucking nineties R and B groups. Drew Hill's

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>my personal favorite. Nice enter the dwip. Okay you you

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you tapped in the red joint? Yes, and then you

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>gotta you gotta go with Usher after that? Two more

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>man Cisco Usher? Who else? I gotta also throw Joe.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing love Joe joking blow. And I don't want

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to just be biased and put myself in there, you

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, I can't do that, don't

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm trying to put like somebody who I

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like. You know, it's different from me to have

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the artists, but I want to also include somebody that

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>writes their music too, you know what I mean? And

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say Kels, of course, say what you want.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about R and B right now, we're talking

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>about art only. I've been talking about art from the start.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I love R. Kelly's music and his talents. The boy

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>is a bad one. When it comes to the studio

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and the songs and the and the and the concepts

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and the melodies and the endless amount of hits for

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>himself and others. I don't think a lot of people

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>talk enough about like he wrote for so many other artists. Yeah, Seline, Dion,

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson, Aliyah, like boy B two K, like he

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>could go on, So you gotta give him his love

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the music. What's your favorite R

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Kelly album? TP two ah TP two dot com? That's

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the one I feel like was that dot com? And

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>then was a chocolate factory after that? Oh, chocolate factory

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was a vibe. But you know where I gotta go

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>after that. I love something Both worlds with jay Z.

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Really yo, that album is crazy, it is. It is

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a good album. I feel like because of the drama

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that's arounded that album, Like people don't really be like

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>tapping in with it like that, but there was some

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>ship on there. Oh my god, that it was a

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I love the self titled album that you remind me? Yeah,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously a White one twelve No, it was black he was.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the White One's twelve play okay, the White

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>One okay, and then the the white shirt. Then r

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was great. Yeah, it was a double disc. It had

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>they had the rest of the brothers on there on

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a baby coos. No the record, what was the record

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>with the brothers in the music video, that's not contagious. No,

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>he's fucking he's fucking the dude's girl behind his back. Yeah,

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>ain't that you all containe? Oh oh oh oh oh,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about. It's gonna bother me.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Now he's fucking ron Eisley's girl in the video. He's like,

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Frank shot up. Can't you see too many that one? No, no,

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now. No, that's still your contagious

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>here it is. It is not half fun. Oh, when

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a woman's faed wait, women, when a woman's fed up?

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>The video, Yeah, video is contagious, I'm telling you, is it?

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it contagious? It's contagious when a woman's fed up?

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Started it? But the story can Yeah, I don't know.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking of that music video, which was incredible.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Ron Eisley playing a mafioso boss, fucking great. That's that's

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>when I came up, you know, so you know I

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.080
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<v Speaker 1>get back to the interview. What do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>your ideal output is on a yearly basis for dropping music,

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<v Speaker 1>because in an album of years or two hours a

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<v Speaker 1>year is it? I say two is good. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just so much that people miss it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>with you that much. And that's the reality. Is your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest song Goat go and drive By yep which I

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>don't want to which which is the record that we

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>were talking about this in SD You were saying that

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>you had a record that just kind of out of

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>nowhere to started streaming because of TikTok or something. Oh

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that was because you were like you were like there

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>was one that was like like you guys chose to

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>be a single by yeah drive By? We Yeah, we

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>went with Goat and you know, put all the energy

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and all the funds and all the ideas both to

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>your biggest song. Yeah, but damn what, you never know,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe we needed it too. The R and B was

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 1>able to carry yourself just from it being a great song,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and the other one needed a little bit of push

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 1>because it was a rhythmic song. So you would mentioned

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to me that you have sold some of your catalog, Yeah,

0:35:54.480 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>because everybody right now is selling catalog? Yeah, everybody, what

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>did you decide to sell? And what did you So

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like some of the so all the writing that

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I've written for Chris Brown, and sure none of that

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.240
<v Speaker 1>has been sold, that's all. And you can just chilling.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>But I've I've released so many albums, like some of

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my older stuff. I was like, all right, cool, let's

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>experiment because we're hearing all this stuff and it sounds crazy,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound real, but let's give it a shot.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>What am I willing to gamble with to see if

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that really happens? And I still got a new catalog

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm still making new catalog. So he cashed out

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>some of the old stuff. Yeah seven figures, Yeah, bought

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>bought crabs like it brought me my lifestyle, you know,

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>like the music. So to me, it's like I made

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>music that has got me able to provide for my

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>family for real. You know that's amazing. Man. We'll listen

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to what is album comes out? Albums out albums out? Yeah,

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred hit easy line to video, just drop Curious

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>cord fab and that's that's it. Man. We finished the tour.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>So now it's really just about pushing the music promoting

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, going from there. Any placement's coming up. Yeah,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I got some got some heat coming with Big Sean.

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah nice. He singles singles single with Big Sean coming.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. I don't know if it's the first one,

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely one of them ones that when you

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>put on you just you feel good. So, you know,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>just happy with my aries brother. No, no, no, it's

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>all it's all him him. I'm just we've just vibed in,

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I like it. I got

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to be in the vibe and it was just as

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>on areas. What was the session like with Sean ah

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Man also in love? Yeah, exactly someone who's in love,

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, vibe. Great guy. First time I really

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 1>was able to be in the studio with him, and

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he was warm, he was welcoming, he was open to

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>new ideas, and I think that's what makes people great

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>when they they know they're good enough to not have

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the only one coming up with the ideas,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. So once we were able to piggyback and

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I got to see which ones he liked, like I

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>did a couple to see like okay, which one is

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>he gravitated towards the most. You know, I got to

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>really tap in and my boy Childish Major. We got

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in and man just cooked up something real special. Uh,

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming back, because the last time you

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>tried to come on the podcast, you came with hit

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Maker and the Nelk boys were in the studio and

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>they tried to prank you guys, and things went it

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>went left. To say, things went left. Berg did not

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I feel like you were kind of like

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>because I let Nima know that it was happening, he

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>knew and we didn't know. I was like, wait, what

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>haven't the dude came in? What was he was doing

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>an interview? And the dude came in with a sand blaster? Yeah? Yeah,

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>he can't even think it was a It's on YouTube.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>It's got millions of views on YouTube. But your guys'

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>faces are blurred. I gotta see. I thought it was joking. No,

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>that shit is online and it's it went viral. So

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in the comments, everyone's guessing who you got are because

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 1>you guys faces were blurred. Yeah, please send me that link.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Bird, shout out of hit Maker. Yes,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>sir go get the album. I appreciate you man, thank you.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to the rest of the year. That what

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you got in store for us? Broh yeah man, yes, sir,

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>let's go fire.