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Speaker 2: It is Sunday Night, November twenty first year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. One of the most jam packed shows

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Speaker 2: I believe we've ever had. These are the shows that

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Speaker 2: you can't miss. Told you Thursday night, don't miss this

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Speaker 2: Sunday show. I didn't know exactly what we were going

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Speaker 2: going to be jam packed.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: That means it is rapid reaction night, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of Week twelve. In the rear view mirror.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen is out at Florida. Those of you that

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Speaker 2: may have been tuned out of college football today, tuned

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Speaker 2: into the pro game, and you're just coming back for

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Speaker 2: the show tonight, which is more people than you may think.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of folks who don't even know

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's been fired. Well, he's out, So of course

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that. I'm also going to

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Speaker 2: look backwards and forwards. I've already got a few names

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Speaker 2: to keep an eye on in the Florida coaching search,

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Speaker 2: which is what about eight hours old. We will discuss

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Speaker 2: the play off picture still really foggy. There's some questions

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Speaker 2: about which teams control their own destiny, which teams don't

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Speaker 2: too lost Bama? How does the committee handle them? Does

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati have a better shot? Now, I'm going to discuss

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Speaker 2: it all tonight. So we're going to be jam pack settling.

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Speaker 2: We're not going anywhere. We don't have time constraints. This

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Speaker 2: is not traditional television or radio. We'll just end when

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Speaker 2: everything that needs to be said has been said. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: you guys joining us. We were in Columbus yesterday. Renaissance

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Speaker 2: Tour announcement coming in just a second. Also, we have

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Speaker 2: got how many Jesse four or five? I think five

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Speaker 2: early best bets tonight.

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Speaker 1: The ram Noodle.

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Speaker 2: Express is so hot that you get second degree burns

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Speaker 2: just by uttering its name. And so we put the

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Speaker 2: pedal down the last two weeks. It has paid off

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Speaker 2: for us. We've already put it down this week. It

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Speaker 2: is whatever the word that is stronger than imperative is.

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Speaker 2: It is stronger than imperative that you are following on

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Speaker 2: Twitter or you are missing line value at late kick Josh.

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Speaker 2: We put five of them out. Two of them have

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Speaker 2: already moved. I'm going to give you those before the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. So we've got all that to come,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna do it somehow in under two hours.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, even under an hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. We will not press our luck.

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Speaker 2: Go. So we were in Columbus yesterday. I have got

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Speaker 2: actually in my pocket right here. Hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I've got.

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Speaker 1: A button nut.

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Speaker 2: It's the first one I have ever held in my hand.

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Speaker 2: You can hear it if I drop it. Actually has

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Speaker 2: a little more mounce than I thought these things had.

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Speaker 2: A member of the Ohio State Band handed that to me,

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Speaker 2: may have gotten in trouble for getting out of formation,

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Speaker 2: I said, Luke, I'm gonna throw it on the show

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Speaker 2: for you. So Luke, there you go. It came back

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Speaker 2: to Nashville with me last night. Got it through TSA.

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Speaker 2: They had no problems. That's the thing about a button nut.

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Speaker 2: It's not very metallic, so you can get it through security.

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Speaker 1: The trip to.

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Speaker 2: A Columbus was great. The splattering the funeral of a

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Speaker 2: game not so much. But I will discuss that in

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Speaker 2: great detail on this show, and then in much greater

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Speaker 2: detail on the Tuesday morning Late Kick Extra podcast. But

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Speaker 2: what you want to know as we kick off every

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Speaker 2: Sunday show with is where is the Renaissance Tour headed

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Speaker 2: for this upcoming Now, let me.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what this week entails.

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Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving week, right, so that means a lot of

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Speaker 2: you are gonna be on the road traveling. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be on the road travel and I'm headed home. Home

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Speaker 2: for me is Columbus, Georgia. That is just forty five

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Speaker 2: is where Jorden Here Stadium is and that's where they

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Speaker 2: play the Iron Bowl this year between Alabama and Auburn.

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Speaker 2: And I have not missed an Iron Bowl and I

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Speaker 2: don't know how long. So where is the Renaissance Tour

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Speaker 2: ahead of this week? Well, Director Colin, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we need to keep them waiting any longer. Let's tell

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Speaker 2: the folks where the Renaissance Tour is headed this week

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Speaker 2: because I'm not taking the drive. I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: I doubt it gets that high.

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Speaker 2: But this is a massive game, fresh off Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: just splattering Michigan State last night. Yesterday, this line comes

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are shocked by that. A lot

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Speaker 2: B I've never been able to square it with previously,

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Speaker 2: got one request. Okay, yesterday I got a bucknut in Columbus.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I need. Parking in ann Arbor, Michigan is atrocious.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you six days at vance notice. Someone's got

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Speaker 2: I need is I need someone in close proximity to

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen has been fired at the University of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's tenure is very, very interesting because it was

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Speaker 2: just this time last year he was about to head

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Speaker 1: They were going to end up playing Bama.

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Speaker 2: of a job, and you know, as I thought about

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Speaker 2: it driving in today, dan Mullen's tenure went in a

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Speaker 2: Dan mullen poured the gas on the fire, that's about

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Speaker 2: the time he's explaining to you why it's okay that

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Speaker 2: Football was ever checked back in under Dan Mullen after

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Speaker 2: wasn't that Dan Mullin was going to lose his job

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Speaker 2: after the LSU game. It wasn't that Dan Mullen was

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Speaker 1: The snowball kind of got kicked down the hill that day.

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Speaker 2: That's where I draw it back to that afternoon, as

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Speaker 2: they weren't ready to play. I know there were some

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Speaker 2: That's the point in history where I think things started

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Speaker 1: But as much as it has sounded over.

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Speaker 2: The past let's say three weeks, like I'm anti Dan Mullen,

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Speaker 2: I don't. And I also don't think Dan Mullen's overrated.

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Speaker 2: always overrated. Dan Mullen was overrated only if you didn't

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Speaker 2: had a pretty good feel for who Dan Mullen was.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen really good Saturday guy, a really good game

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Speaker 1: I think there are a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of people who believe he's a little overrated in

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Speaker 2: his ability to develop the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: I think he's pretty good developer of quarterbacks. But I

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Speaker 2: a really good offensive mine. But there are certain limitations

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Speaker 2: because of his approach, because of his style, and in

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Speaker 2: some ways because of his personality and view of the

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Speaker 2: game that put a really hard cap on what his

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Speaker 2: he wasn't overrated. No one ever compared him to Sabman.

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Speaker 2: I don't think many smart people were comparing him. No

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Speaker 2: pun intended to Kirby Smart. This past year, there were

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Speaker 2: some people who said, well, because they won in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: that must mean Dan Mullen has surpassed Kirby Smart. We

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Speaker 2: if you watch this show, you know that as a

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Speaker 2: And I think Dan Mullen's going to succeed somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Than you think he'd be.

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Speaker 2: First off, let him see a side of you they

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. Hello, It's almost like they had

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Speaker 2: So here you go, Colin a natural end for you.

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Speaker 1: Needed to see more from him. You didn't need to

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think it's pathetic that some folks believe,

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Speaker 2: But he was asked, I believe by Andy Staples, what

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Speaker 2: This is not some developmental project of a program. No,

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Speaker 2: Number two, This is what I've been harping on for

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Speaker 1: So it's not Dan Mullen's fault.

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Speaker 2: Expectations are just too high because for some reason, there

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Speaker 1: And I say that right, media ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: That believe the expectation there, for whatever reason, should not

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Speaker 2: That's what everyone wants to know. Where's the Florida coaching

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Speaker 2: look at that whole Ted Lasso Sam Pittman model where well,

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Speaker 2: They want to win the way Steve Spurrier did it.

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Speaker 2: They don't care about rubbing you the wrong way. They

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Speaker 2: here's what I think about Kiffin at Florida. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: Here's what I believe the case to be.

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Speaker 1: This is the world college athletics at a high level.

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Speaker 1: And it's been very hard.

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Speaker 2: that consensus sign off. Normally, what it is is there

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Speaker 2: And then there's this other person over the corner, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you the guys handled himself very well at all,

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Speaker 1: Levy doesn't get enough credit there. Jeff Levy does a

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, Like I'm not gonna I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: getting those former Baylor assistants can't really go anywhere else

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Speaker 1: Well, good for Lane Kiff.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, all you've just accused him

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Speaker 2: I believe that wouldn't be the case at Florida? I

436
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Speaker 2: can tell you this, here's what I think because I've

437
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Speaker 2: got my number one. It's not Lane Kiffin, and I

438
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Speaker 2: got my number one, and I'll list him in a second.

439
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Speaker 2: I will at least say this, one of the most

440
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Speaker 2: fundamental things I've always wanted to achieve in a coaching

441
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Speaker 2: search is making my opponent sweat when I make the announcement.

442
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Speaker 2: And God bless Mark Stoops and some of the other

443
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Speaker 2: names who are going to be mentioned in this search.

444
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: There are going to be a lot of quality candidates.

445
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Speaker 2: I think Billy Napier would be a very good hire here.

446
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Speaker 2: I would never leave Kentucky if I were Mark Stoops,

447
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: but he'd be a quality higher. None of them and friends,

448
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Speaker 2: I mean, none of them would make the folks in Athens,

449
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: Georgia sweat more than if they woke up tomorrow morning

450
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Speaker 2: and Lane Kiffin had been hired at the University of Florida.

451
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Speaker 2: That's not me telling you he's necessarily the right one.

452
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. You know good and wealth what

453
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. If you're a Georgia fan, you wake

454
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Speaker 2: up tomorrow morning and you see Billy Napier hired, and

455
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Speaker 2: you see in an alternate universe Lane Kiffin hired, which

456
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Speaker 2: one makes you sweat more?

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know the answer to that. Now.

458
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Speaker 2: The guy I'd go after if I had an open

459
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Speaker 2: head coaching position right now, coast to coast would be

460
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Speaker 2: Dave Randa. I don't think he is restricted to succeeding

461
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Speaker 2: in a specific region. I could not care less if

462
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Speaker 2: I had an opening in San Diego, California, or bangor Maine.

463
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Speaker 1: They need to take football a little more seriously in Maine.

464
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Speaker 1: And you know, I've always thought that.

465
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Speaker 2: But if I had a job opening at the University

466
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Speaker 2: of Florida, Southern cal LSU, anywhere in between, Dave Randa

467
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Speaker 2: is my number one call. Dave Randa is the guy

468
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Speaker 2: who checks every single box that I want. Dave Randa

469
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Speaker 2: knows how to build and the lead an organization. He

470
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Speaker 2: knows how to get buy in. He knows how to

471
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Speaker 2: instill championship culture. Scott Strickling at Florida Today spoke about

472
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Speaker 2: a sustained product of excellence. That means you can't have

473
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Speaker 2: the wild swings. It can't be a roller coaster. You

474
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Speaker 2: got to get to a cruising altitude. You gotta have

475
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Speaker 2: a guy who knows how to get it off the ground.

476
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Speaker 2: But then once you get it off the ground, you

477
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Speaker 2: also got to have a guy who knows how to

478
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Speaker 2: fly it. And it's not up and down, it's not

479
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Speaker 2: up your trade tables, not having to stay in its

480
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Speaker 2: upright and locked position.

481
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Speaker 1: Because there's so much turbulence. No, you cruise at a

482
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Speaker 1: high level.

483
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Speaker 2: Dave Randa is the guy I believe that is uniquely equipped,

484
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Speaker 2: even unto any of these other candidates out there, to

485
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Speaker 2: achieve that. He would do it at Florida, he'd do

486
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Speaker 2: it at USC, he'd do it at LSU. Dave Randa

487
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Speaker 2: is while he may not be represented by the right folks,

488
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Speaker 2: Dave Randa is the right guy for your job. And

489
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Speaker 2: so that's the one I would push for at Florida.

490
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Speaker 2: And if I were running both organizations, then I would

491
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Speaker 2: compete against myself at LSU and Florida for the same person.

492
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Speaker 2: Dave Randa is the guy for all these jobs. There

493
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Speaker 2: is going to be a lot of regret down the

494
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Speaker 2: road for I think some programs, not just Florida.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to do. I don't

496
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Speaker 1: think LSU is pursuing him hard.

497
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Speaker 2: Enough, and I hope that that changes for their sake,

498
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Speaker 2: because it would be a shame for Randa to have

499
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Speaker 2: come through the South and then get locked.

500
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Speaker 1: Down by USC.

501
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Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily have the best feel for where

502
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Speaker 2: USC is in their search, but I do think there

503
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: have been some names mentioned in their search that probably

504
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: in reality aren't at the forefront nearly to the degree

505
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Speaker 2: that let's say, the college football media sphere has led

506
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Speaker 2: you to believe. I think Dave Randa is there, and

507
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: if USC does end up locking him down, then that

508
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Speaker 2: would be a home run.

509
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Speaker 1: Florida should very much go after Dave Randa. That is

510
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Speaker 1: my field.

511
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: Billy Napier is going to be a name that's mentioned

512
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: a lot here. As I said a little while ago,

513
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Speaker 2: Billy Napier has waited for this job. Billy Napier has

514
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: slow played some other programs with JABO in hopes of

515
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: seeing something like this come open. And it's open now,

516
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: and the folks at Florida I think would be very receptive.

517
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: And by folks I mean fans. I think the fans

518
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: there would be very receptive to a Billy Napier hiring.

519
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Speaker 2: The thing about it is and I'll move on here.

520
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a lot more about this week.

521
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Speaker 2: There are not five Grand Slam candidates out there as

522
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Speaker 2: you would define Grand Slam, but I want you to

523
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: remember how many Grand Slams have fizzled out and how

524
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: many barks have ended up being Grand Slams. You know,

525
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: Daboswiney is the most famous example that comes to mind,

526
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: but I think most recently about Ryan Day. You know,

527
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Speaker 2: Ohio State had the unique opportunity to not even have

528
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Speaker 2: to leave the ZIP code up there to find the

529
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Speaker 2: right guy. But Ohio State could have had their choice

530
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Speaker 2: of almost anyone, and they went with Ryan Day. Why

531
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Speaker 2: because they ignored all the hot boards out there, and

532
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: they just knew the characteristics they were looking for and

533
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: they got the guy that fit the most of those characteristics.

534
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: It's exact same thing Florida has to do. What are

535
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Speaker 2: the critical traits and teristics they're looking for. We expect

536
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: to learn a lot more about that in the coming days.

537
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Yesterday was a very cold day, a very cold day

538
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Speaker 2: indeed in Columbus, Ohio. Luckily for yours, truly, I have

539
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Speaker 2: the proper relationships with folks at Academy Sports and Outdoors.

540
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Speaker 1: Otherwise I am not equipped.

541
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Speaker 2: My closet itself is not equipped for me to withstand

542
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Speaker 2: such conditions. But the folks at Academy got me hooked

543
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Speaker 2: up and so I was.

544
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Speaker 1: Relatively toasty yesterday. And here's what I want to tell

545
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Speaker 1: you, you can be too.

546
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Speaker 2: This cold weather is going to envelop the nation. It's

547
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Speaker 2: called winter, and it's not going anywhere. But here's the

548
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: good news. Neither is Academy Sports and Outdoors. And every

549
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: time I go north of where I live right now

550
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Speaker 2: in Nashville, where the frequency of seeing Academy Sports and

551
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Speaker 2: Outdoors locations gets less and less, the more and more

552
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Speaker 2: I get told, well, it's okay because you told me

553
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Speaker 2: about Academy dot Com. Yes, I did, Sioux Falls or Tucson.

554
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter Academy dot Com. As long as you

555
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: we got Internet, it works. So Academy Sports and Outdoors

556
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: a great place to go. And if you need tailgetting equipment,

557
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: they got it. Or if you just need a fleece

558
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Speaker 2: with your school's logo on it, they got that too.

559
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Speaker 2: But make sure you do it, and you do it.

560
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Speaker 1: For the right reasons.

561
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Speaker 2: The right reasons, in my humble opinion, is that they

562
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Speaker 2: support the show, and so we keep this thing totally

563
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Speaker 2: free of charge, in large part because of Academy Sports

564
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Speaker 2: and Outdoors. So I'm not telling you go out of

565
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Speaker 2: your way to do something you weren't already gonna do.

566
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Speaker 1: You've got to.

567
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Speaker 2: Make purchases, guys. And if you are benevovent or benevolent

568
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Speaker 2: is the word I wanted to use, you can tell

569
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Speaker 2: they didn't write benevolent in the a copy they would

570
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Speaker 2: have written benevolent if you are benevolent like director Colin

571
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Speaker 2: for example, or producer Jesse, always looking to do for others.

572
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Speaker 2: Christmas time is rapidly approaching, and so I'm just telling

573
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Speaker 2: you I will give you my guarantee that if you

574
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Speaker 2: were ordering, not their guarantee, mind you my guarantee.

575
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Speaker 1: So I'm responsible.

576
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Speaker 2: If you're ordering from Academy dot Com, little Susie and

577
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: Johnny are going to love it when they unwrap it.

578
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: How could they not? And quite frankly, if they don't

579
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: love a.

580
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Speaker 2: Present from Academy dot Com or Academy Sports and Outdoors,

581
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: I question their character a lot more than the quality

582
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: of the product. Again, you can tell them and you

583
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: can quote me on that. So you may have a

584
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: little soul searching to do with your kids that they

585
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: don't like the present from Academy Sports and Outdoors, but

586
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: they'll like it, so you probably won't have to worry

587
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: about it. It seems that every time I talk about

588
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Speaker 2: Academy by the way, the vo of the Virginia Tech

589
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: mascots and the fans and whatnot jumping up and down,

590
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: it always plays at the exact same time in the background,

591
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: which is my favorite part of the show. So yesterday

592
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: there were varying degrees of just utter blowout all across

593
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Speaker 2: the country, and I was at one.

594
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Speaker 1: Let's start with that, shall we.

595
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Speaker 2: Ohio State just completely and totally annihilated Michigan State yesterday

596
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: in biblical manner. Fifty six to seven is the final score.

597
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Speaker 2: They could have at least hung eighty if they wanted to.

598
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that there was anything standing in the

599
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Speaker 2: way of them rewriting the entire record book for the

600
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Speaker 2: Big ten Ohio State college football everywhere in between a

601
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: complete TVMA special in the Horseshoe yesterday, I had not

602
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: even lost the feeling in my fingers before it was

603
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: already out of reach. That's how quickly it went sideways

604
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: for Michigan State. Sometimes you see a team get up early,

605
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: and your nature is to say, okay, long game, still

606
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: the first quarter, still plenty of time. But then there

607
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: are other occasions where you see the manner in which

608
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Speaker 2: a team gets up fourteen or twenty one nothing, and

609
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: you say, there's no prayer, there's no way that team

610
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Speaker 2: in green right, there might as well be a pinata.

611
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Speaker 1: And they were they were friends. It was bad, bad, bad.

612
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Speaker 2: So I don't know that there's ever been a more

613
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Speaker 2: violent first half in a consequential game. Mind you, there

614
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: was a number next to Michigan State's team and it

615
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: was I think seven. What were they ranked going into this,

616
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Speaker 2: like seventh? I'm going to talk at Michigan State. It

617
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: sounds like a hate fest. I'm not hating on them.

618
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Speaker 2: In fact, I got a lot of good things to

619
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Speaker 2: say about them, just not from yesterday. The first half

620
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: here is as violent as anything you will ever see

621
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Speaker 2: in major college football. Ohio State hangs five hundred total yards.

622
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: And this is the time where I already need to

623
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Speaker 2: pause and remind you I am not giving you game totals.

624
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Speaker 1: These are not two or three week totals.

625
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Speaker 2: This is after thirty minutes of football or something along

626
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Speaker 2: those lines.

627
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Speaker 1: Five hundred yards total offense.

628
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Speaker 2: Ohio State ran forty nine plays in the first half,

629
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Speaker 2: and really it could have been a lot more.

630
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Speaker 1: They just kept scoring too fast.

631
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Speaker 2: In fact, it's a miracle it even took them forty

632
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Speaker 2: nine plays to amass the totals that I'm giving you.

633
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Speaker 1: They only had two third downs.

634
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Speaker 2: I want you to think about this for a second,

635
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: as I adjust already getting uncomfortable reading this stuff. Ohio

636
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: State ran forty nine plays. They were so lethal. Only

637
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: two of the forty nine plays were third down plays,

638
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: and it should be noted they were two for two

639
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: on those third down plays. And it also will shock

640
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: you they didn't have to go forward on fourth down.

641
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Speaker 1: CJ. Stroud.

642
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Again, these are first half totals twenty nine to thirty one,

643
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety three yards. This is not the

644
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: metric system. This is just good old fashioned stat keeping.

645
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: Six touchdowns in the first half could have had double

646
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: digits if you wanted to. I mean, they really ground

647
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: to a halt second half by choice. I want to

648
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: stress that by choice. They had ten point two yards

649
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: per play in the first half. So yes, ugly, I

650
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: saw parents shielding their children's eyes and it was a

651
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: really good idea. They finally found that ignition. Man, we

652
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: talked about this. It seems like for years. In reality

653
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: it's been a month. Ohio State finally found the ignition.

654
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: When you get a rental car, when you're in an

655
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: unfamiliar vehicle and it's dark and you sometimes got to

656
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: fumble around, especially in the older cars where we actually

657
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: had to take the physical key and put.

658
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: It in the ignition.

659
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard, and so what do you do, Well,

660
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: you just kind of kind of feel your way around.

661
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

662
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: If that battery is worth anything and that key fits,

663
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: once you get it in the ignition, all you gotta

664
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: do is turn it. And so Ryan Day has racehorse

665
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: after racehorse after racehorse. He has a whole stable of them.

666
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: At wide receiver, he's got one of the best quarterbacks

667
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: in the country who was a first year starter. They

668
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: got future NFL guys all over their offensive line. They

669
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: probably got the best running back in football, even though

670
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: you hadn't heard his name as much as guys like

671
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker. They just had to get the key in

672
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: the ignition. Well, yesterday you saw what happens when Ohio

673
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: State gets that key in the ignition and turns it.

674
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: It goes, and then he goes.

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: And then Michigan State goes splat, and several other teams

676
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: would if they were on the field with Ohio State yesterday.

677
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: So what does this mean for the future?

678
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Because I almost got to a point yesterday where I ask,

679
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: how much do I really take away from this? Because

680
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: at some point it is quite literally like beating a

681
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: dead horse, and yesterday the freeze point came into effect.

682
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: The freeze point we used to talk about with twenty

683
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: eighteen Clemson or you know, twenty twenty Bama, twenty nineteen LSU.

684
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: And we have not talked about the freeze point with

685
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: any team this year because you have not seen any

686
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: team be good enough. I haven't even talked about it

687
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: with Georgia because Georgia is not a lethal offensive team.

688
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: Georgia may be the best team in the country, but

689
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: they don't fit these parameters that we normally talk about.

690
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: The freeze point is this. It is the theory. It's

691
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 2: not a theory, it's just a fact. In the modern

692
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 2: college game, there are offenses in any given year, like

693
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: I just mentioned twenty eighteen clubs in nineteen LSU twenty

694
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Bama that are so good that a vast majority of

695
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: college football has no prayer of competing against them. It

696
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: is called the freeze point. It's how we defined it.

697
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: And it's the same way if you think about liquid,

698
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: if you think about water, it could be fifty three

699
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: degrees or thirty three degrees in your freezer as long

700
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: as you put the water in there, and that number

701
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: is above thirty two. No matter how high above thirty

702
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: two it is. If it's above thirty two, that water

703
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: will never freeze. Fifty three or thirty three, you've believe

704
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 2: it in there for one hundred years, it's not going

705
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: to freeze. However, once it gets down to thirty two

706
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: point four, which is freeze point in fahrenheit terms, for

707
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it's no longer a question

708
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: of can it freeze or it'll freeze, it's how long

709
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: will it take it to freeze? And so then the

710
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: question becomes how far below the freeze point can you go?

711
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Thirty two point four.

712
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: Twenty two point four will freeze it a lot faster,

713
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: fourteen point four will freeze it even faster. Michigan State

714
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: wasn't below the freeze point. They had no shot yesterday,

715
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: and so it didn't really matter.

716
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Fifty three to thirty three.

717
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: It didn't really matter if Ohio State scored thirty three

718
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: or fifty six, as they did. The point was Michigan

719
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: State had no shot, and that was apparent early on

720
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: by how free receivers were running all throughout the secondary. Honestly,

721
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: it was like watching DeVante Smith against Ohio State in

722
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: the title game last year. The question moving forward if

723
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: you play a Michigan on Saturday is do they meet

724
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: the freeze point. I'm a believer that Michigan meets the

725
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: freeze point. I'm not a believer Michigan's a better team,

726
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: and I'm a believer they should be an underdog in

727
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: their own building because Ohio State is that much better.

728
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: The question is not whether they're better. The question is

729
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: do they at least have a punch's chance of competing?

730
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: And you can't compete if the things like you're watching

731
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: right now on YouTube are happening. You can compete if

732
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: you are a certain caliber. Michigan is probably at least

733
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: that caliber of team. They're probably thirty two thirty two

734
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: point three, thirty two point four kind of team. Then

735
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: the question becomes how long does it take? Well, Also,

736
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: if you play Georgia down the road, george is well

737
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: below the freeze point, obviously, so the question is how

738
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: much success could you have against them? There is a

739
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: breakpoint for every team, and a lot of times the

740
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: breakpoint when you're playing a team as good as Ohio

741
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: State is well short of four quarters. You know, yesterday

742
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: the breakpoint was as soon as they kicked it off

743
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: from Michigan State. But a lot of times a team

744
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: has a breakpoint of about two and a half quarters

745
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: when they're playing good teams, even if you get their

746
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: best effort. Think about how many times you see a

747
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: game go into halftime and it's close, and then the

748
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: better team extends the margin in the second half and

749
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: you say, wow, yeah, it was a blowout, but man, I.

750
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: Thought this was a game in half. It was.

751
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: That's because that team's break point was about two and

752
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: a half quarters of football, maybe three orders of football. Well,

753
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State is going to come up on some teams

754
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: who have break points. Every one of them does, and

755
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: some of them may be shorter than four quarters, some

756
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: of them may be a little longer than four quarters.

757
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: And that's gonna be the question moving forward. And so

758
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: that's why that line, when you looked at it against

759
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: Michigan and it came out today and it's only seven

760
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: and a half, a lot of you said just that

761
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: it's only seven and a half. It's not only seven

762
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: and a half. That's a very sizable number, especially when

763
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: you're in a rivalry game of this magnitude going into

764
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: someone else's backyard and the stats and trends of the

765
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: past don't really factor into that number nearly as much

766
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: as you want to believe they do. It's just this

767
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: year's teams facing each other. It's the freeze point. They

768
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: may term it a different way. It's the freeze point,

769
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: and when you got a team that meets it, it

770
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: can radically change an outcome. It can take you know,

771
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: the simple concept of just your DB's being able to

772
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: run fairly decently with a receiver could flip that score

773
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: yesterday three or four touchdowns. You have no clue because

774
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: of how intricate now bounce off the ball this game is,

775
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: but it could happen. And so I wanted to close

776
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: this particular game recap with one thing. There were a

777
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: lot of jokes yesterday about mel Tucker and he's got

778
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: this big contract extension, which hasn't publicly been finalized, by.

779
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: The way, but I believe it will be finalized.

780
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of jokes about how they need

781
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: to keep the receipd or you know, maybe they could

782
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: rip that thing up before the inksdrive.

783
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Look, some of that's just good nature ribbing, But anyone who.

784
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: Properly contextualizes this season from Michigan State understands.

785
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: It's been a miracle.

786
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: The over undertotal in wins for this team preseason was four.

787
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday's loss sets them back to nine and two sets

788
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: them back to nine and two. So I heard some

789
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: of you say, oh, I knew they were fraudulent all along.

790
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: What in the world are you talking about fraudulent? They've

791
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: hit the over by what five games or six games

792
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: or something like. They're not fraudulent. It's just the fact

793
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: that because they've been such an overachiever, then they got

794
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: lofted up into a stratosphere. They probably didn't below quite yet.

795
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: You know, when we power rate them, for example, I

796
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: haven't had him higher than fifteen. But if you're ranking

797
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: them in playoff terms, of course you had to have

798
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: them up in the top ten. They had earned that.

799
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: This is not a fraudulent team. It's one of the

800
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: best stories in college football this year. They ran into

801
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: a buzz saw. I would ask you this, if you

802
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: think that team it was fraudulent, or you think that's

803
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: on mel Tucker, I'd ask you, who do you think

804
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: the best coach in college football is?

805
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban? Whoever?

806
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: Just take Nick Saban for example, if I put Nick

807
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: Saban in East Lansing, Michigan last week, and had him

808
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: take that team into Columbus.

809
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: How would the outcome have been any different? It wouldn't.

810
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: You're stuck with the players.

811
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: You're stuck with, and those players, by the way, that

812
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: sounds pejorative in nature, those players have gotten you to

813
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: nine wins, may get you to ten wins. Who knows

814
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a really nice ball game out of this.

815
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: So good for Michigan State, Like yesterday was horrible for him,

816
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: but overall good for Michigan State.

817
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Really good for Ohio State. No a lot to play for.

818
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: Now we move on Alabama forty two, Arkansas thirty five.

819
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: I think that first number doesn't really fool you all

820
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: that much. The second number may surprise you at the

821
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: very least, so you pull up the box score. Most

822
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: of you got to watch this. I got to watch

823
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: most of the second half on the flight home. But

824
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: there are padlock stats that we use a lot of

825
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: times on this show, and there are a lot of

826
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: what should be padlock stats in this stat sheet that

827
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: are not padlock stats.

828
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: As it turns out to be clear.

829
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: When I say padlock stats, those are the stats that

830
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: if I were to tell you on Friday, you wouldn't

831
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: even need to watch the game.

832
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Because you're so sure you know the outcome.

833
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: Well, Bama did win this game, but the numbers I'm

834
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: about to give you should be padlock. In terms of

835
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: covering in a blowout. They nearly had seven hundred yards

836
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: total offense.

837
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Yesterday.

838
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: Bryce Young was thirty one to forty five hundred and

839
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: fifty nine yards, five touchdowns. I think he set all

840
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: kinds of new passing records, and yet still forty two

841
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: to thirty five is the final. They had a lot

842
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: of things in terms of like turnovers down to the

843
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: goal line. They had a field goal flat out fall

844
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: short was under fifty yards.

845
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: That was kind of weird to see.

846
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: So there were every one of those things that needs

847
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: to go wrong for you to lose a game. They

848
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: started to happen for Bama. Now they still won it,

849
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: but there's such an uncharacteristic Alabama team relative to the

850
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: last few years for being this late in the season.

851
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: So we got the outcome we expected. We picked Bama

852
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: to win, we thought Arkansas would cover. So here's the

853
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: first thing you need to know. There's a lot of

854
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: lying going on about the Arkansas Razorbacks football team. The

855
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: first reason this was close yesterday, make no mistake about it,

856
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: is because Arkansas's good.

857
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: That's the first reason it happened.

858
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Bama's not elite and Arkansas is good contrary to what

859
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: the record may tell you. Because one of the big

860
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: lies in this sport is you are what your record

861
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: says you are.

862
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: No, you're not. Case in point, University of Arkansas.

863
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Arkansas, if I did nothing else other than give them

864
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati schedule, would probably be a one loss team, maybe

865
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: better than being a one loss team. They would have

866
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: only been a dog in one game. I can tell

867
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: you that, and they'd be the same team. But you'd

868
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden think Bama beat a playoff contender yesterday.

869
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: Why because you are not always what your record says

870
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: you are.

871
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: So the first thing you need to know about yesterday's

872
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: outcome is it's.

873
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: Doing large part to the fact that Arkansas is a

874
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: good team. I've heard some folks suggest otherwise, I don't

875
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: know what else. Tell you they're wrong.

876
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: They don't.

877
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: They're not understanding how to interpret what their eyes are

878
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: seeing on the field and how to kind of cross

879
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: compare it to if you changed different external factors about

880
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: a team. If I just changed external factors about Arkansas

881
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: in terms of schedule, and it would make them five

882
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: games better, that means they're not bad. They never have

883
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: been bad. It's just they got a really, really hard schedule.

884
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing you need to know. Second

885
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: thing you need to know is Arkansas only had one

886
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: hundred and ten yards rushing yesterday and they still were

887
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: in this thing late. Why is that, Well, it's because

888
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson had himself a day. It's because the Alabama

889
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: secondary is not remotely on par with secondaries in the past.

890
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: But Jefferson was thirty for over three hundred and twenty yards

891
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: through the air, didn't throw any critical interceptions.

892
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: So good on Arkansas.

893
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean, like they almost they almost found a way

894
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: to win this game, because they are good enough to

895
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: almost find a way to win this game. But as

896
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: for Alabama, you know, if you've been watching the show

897
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: every week, when they lost to Texas A and M,

898
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: it was the wake up call that they really should

899
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: have had when they almost lost to Florida. But a

900
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: lot of times you gotta lose in order for guys

901
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: to kind of get that jolt. What we said about

902
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: Alabama after the A and M loss still rings true today,

903
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: and you're starting to see a little bit more of it,

904
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: at least attempted by Nick Saban. What we said after

905
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: that A and M loss is this Alabama team can

906
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: still win the SEC. But this Alabama team will not

907
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: win the SEC with the current lineup they have on

908
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: the field. The only shot they had, and I still

909
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: maintain today, the only shot this Alabama team has of

910
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: beating Georgia and winning the SEC in a couple of

911
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: weeks is their young guys coming through that twenty twenty

912
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: one sign class has to be utilized.

913
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's full proof. I'm not saying

914
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna work.

915
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying if they are going to win, those are

916
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: the guys who will have to do it. They did

917
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: not have enough difference makers at receiver. Well, what have

918
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: you seen last night? You saw Christian Leary score his

919
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: first touchdown. You've seen Jacory Brooks had a good catch

920
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: to last night. A Ji Hall has found his way

921
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: on the field of time or two. And so there's that.

922
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: There is also this guy by the name of Dallas

923
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: Turner who is flashing more and more as he gets

924
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: more and more opportunity. There's a guy named Jaquincy McKinstry.

925
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: You probably know him as kool Aid. Josh Job has

926
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: underachieved mightily for Alabama this year. McKinstry, therefore, has gotten

927
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: more and more opportunity. I would argue he's the better

928
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: player of the two right now. So there are a

929
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: lot of young guys who are starting to find their

930
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: way on the field. This is not the ideal blueprint.

931
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: This is the mandatory blueprint. When you lose the kind

932
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: of talent Bama lost. In no world, even one where

933
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: you recruit like they do, in no world do you

934
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: lose the.

935
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Kind of talent they lost and just keep on tickets,

936
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: just keep on cruising. You can't do it.

937
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: You've got to have a whole lot of young guys

938
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: really come into their own really quickly. So Bama's gonna

939
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: be a small underdog against Georgia in a couple weeks

940
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, as.

941
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: They should be. It is a winnable game.

942
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: The things that have to go right for them are unknowns, though,

943
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: and that's what's different. This team normally has everything figured

944
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: out by this point, and they're just they're going into

945
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: battle with the stuff that's already figured out.

946
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go into battle with unknown.

947
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks. Could turn out really good.

948
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: They could get beat by three touchdowns, like anything's on

949
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: the table in that game in a few weeks. But

950
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: as for one more time with Arkansas before we move on.

951
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: As for Sam Pittman, it is Sam Pittman versus Shane

952
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Beemer for Coach of the Year in the SEC. And

953
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm actually invested in this one. We're gonna talk about

954
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: Beemer in a second. I'm actually invested in this because

955
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: these are straight up phenomenal coaching jobs that have been

956
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: done against all odds. I mean literally against the preseason odds.

957
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer and South Carolina are going to a bowl

958
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: game now. They beat Auburn and Florida in year one

959
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: with a very inadequate roster, if we're being real with ourselves.

960
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: And then Sam Pittman's over at Arkansas doing what he's doing.

961
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: You know, they started four and oh so Arkansas. It

962
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: seems like a long time ago, but Arkansas was the

963
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: talk of college football a little while ago. But then

964
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: they lost three games in a row. That's the point

965
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: right there where it starts four and oh, but then

966
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: they're four and three.

967
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: That's where it's supposed to go off the rails.

968
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: Then they rebounded though, and they won three games in

969
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: a row, and that includes wins over LSU and wins

970
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: over Mississippi State, and then last night they pushed Bama

971
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: and so now they're seven and four. They are a

972
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: two touchdown favorite against Missouri this week. We love them

973
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: so much so that they are going to be one

974
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: of our best bets. We think they're gonna finish eight

975
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: and four, and that is several games above. Obviously, the

976
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: preseason Vegas went total phenomenal job by Sam Pittman and

977
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: Shane Beemer. Bama's favored by three touchdowns in the Iron Bowl.

978
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: Everybody gasps and holds their breath. I'm just telling you

979
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: what the odds makers have put out there. Bama's favored

980
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: by three touchdowns. Will break the game down Tuesday. Several

981
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: more added takeaways from this A very busy week twelve.

982
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, the live chat is popping so

983
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: much so that I'm going to give you three hellos

984
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,600
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985
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,959
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986
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,360
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987
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,400
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988
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989
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990
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991
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992
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993
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400
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994
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995
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997
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998
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,040
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999
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: Several more Week twelve takeaways. South Carolina beat Auburn yesterday.

1000
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: I get off the plane in Nashville. I'm walking through

1001
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: the terminal and this game's wrapping up, and so I

1002
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: just see a bunch of grown men with their arms

1003
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: folded and their heads shaken violently to the left and right,

1004
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: and I know, Oh, Auburn found a way to blow

1005
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: another one, didn't they? Alternate headline? Oh South Carolina pulled

1006
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: it out, didn't they? And sure enough there it is. Well,

1007
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: one of them was watching Oregon get pasted. I'm about

1008
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: to talk about that in a second. He was off

1009
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: on a side monitor, the main monitor in BNA.

1010
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: It's the code for Nashville.

1011
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: Was Auburn falling to South Carolina and I saw how it.

1012
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Ended and did the punt touch him? Did it not

1013
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: touch him?

1014
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: I know what the argument has been today, but look,

1015
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: I want to talk a bigger picture about this. I

1016
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: don't think people have any idea how big an achievement

1017
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: it is that Shane Beemer has got South Carolina headed

1018
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: to a bowl game in year two. Oh oh wait,

1019
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: he's not in year two. This is year one. It

1020
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: is year one under Shane Beemer. And the talk preseason

1021
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: when I did media hits in South Carolina, and I

1022
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: do a bunch of them in that state and in

1023
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: the entire kind of area over there was what do

1024
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: we think here?

1025
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Four wins? Five wins?

1026
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: There were very few people talking about six wins.

1027
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: Because of the schedule was to often because the team

1028
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: didn't look good. I mean, you got what you got

1029
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: to work with in year.

1030
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: One, Shane Beemer's got South Carolina going too a bowl game.

1031
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Speaks volumes, and no one cares whether Florida's down. No

1032
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: one cares whether Auburn's down. South Carolina's down too. That's

1033
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: why you've got a new head coach. And the fact

1034
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: that they pulled games off against both of them in

1035
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: year one. It will pay such dividends for them in recruiting.

1036
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: But it's so great to be able to sell and

1037
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: it's so great to package up, you know, is that

1038
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: vision we always want to package up in year one.

1039
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: It's so great to at least for the time being,

1040
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: validate the hopes that a lot of folks had there

1041
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: when they backed one of their guys to be their

1042
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: head coach.

1043
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: You look at Shane Beemer. He's everything you want a

1044
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: South Carolina head coach to be. It sucks for you.

1045
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the experience, you know. It sucks for you.

1046
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: He hasn't gone and won at two other stops and

1047
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: you can just hire a sure thing. But you know what,

1048
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: some folks around there were willing to gamble and roll

1049
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: the dice on an unproven commodity because he was theirs.

1050
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: He was one of them. And now Shane Beemer's come

1051
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: in and he's giving them immediate turn on investment, which

1052
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: is a rare commodity in this day and age to

1053
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: read any.

1054
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Good news on the newspaper page. Some of you get

1055
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: it if you know, you know, but this was so

1056
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: it's a good look. It's a good look for South Carolina.

1057
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: But boy, on the other side of that coin, as

1058
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: most coins tend to do, there's another side.

1059
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: It's a tough look. There's no way to sugarcoat this.

1060
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: This is a tough look for Brian Harson, it's a

1061
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: tough look for Auburn. There were some very sketch decisions

1062
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: made in this game yesterday. I'm not questions the play

1063
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: calling guy, I don't do it, but even I look

1064
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: at that fourth down and you got very very very

1065
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: very short to go and my man Tank Bigsby down

1066
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: on the field and you're throwing it deep, and that's interesting.

1067
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: It's an interesting concept.

1068
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: Now, Blake or Brian Harriston said afterwards, well, you know,

1069
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: if we would have completed it, it would have been a

1070
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: good play. It's accurate. That did check out, So we

1071
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: fact checked that, and it did check out. Independent fact

1072
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: checkers confirmed. But it didn't work out, and it wasn't

1073
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: a good play call. Even if it did work out. Actually,

1074
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm messing around with you. It's a horrific decision. And

1075
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: he knows that, and they know that. There's gonna be

1076
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about Brian Harson and the Washington

1077
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: head coaching position this week. I'm just getting you ready

1078
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: for it. This has been bubbling beneath the surface for

1079
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: two weeks now. That's been some of the whispers in

1080
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: the industry. It's been made public enough where I feel

1081
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: comfortable talking about it. I think there's some legitimacy to it.

1082
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it at that. I don't think

1083
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: anything's decided. I'm not telling you anything like that. I'm

1084
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: telling you there is reason to take it seriously, and

1085
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: that's all I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna move on.

1086
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: Utah thirty eight Oregon seven. I think fourteen points were

1087
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: scored in this game after Oregon mentally had already gone

1088
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: to the locker room for the half. I was watching

1089
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: this game at I think we were at thirty seven

1090
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 2: thousand feet last night, and it was one of those

1091
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: aisle seat specials where you got the game on and

1092
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: then the guy next to you is pulling this, and

1093
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: then the guy on the other side, pretending like he's sleeping,

1094
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: but he's pulling this and eventually I just had to

1095
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: tell him it's.

1096
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, you can watch.

1097
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: And so we're watching this game together and it's about

1098
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: a minute minute change left until the half. You know,

1099
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: if you watched it, those of you who did, it's

1100
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: already fourteen to nothing.

1101
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's already going to be a.

1102
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 2: Tall task to ask of the Ducks and the second

1103
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: half to come back.

1104
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: But they can do it now.

1105
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: But then they give the ball back to Utah and

1106
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Utah just carves them up. They go down the field,

1107
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: boom boom boom, touchdown, and it's twenty one to nothing.

1108
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: That is the cattle prod effect.

1109
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: When we talk about the cattle prod that is the

1110
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: stun gun to the neck, and you are completely staggered.

1111
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: You don't know what to do.

1112
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: And then Utah ends up running a kick or a

1113
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: punt back, whichever, when it was right before the half,

1114
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there thinking, Oregon thinks this thing is

1115
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing, it's twenty eight to nothing just like that.

1116
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: As it turns out, the game was over either way.

1117
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: This is the worst loss for Oregon under Mario Christoval.

1118
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: Everyone around the Oregon program seems to agree with that.

1119
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Today.

1120
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: The Padlock stat all you needed to know Friday was

1121
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: Oregon ended up watching Utah go eleven for fourteen on

1122
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: third down. Had I told you that game was gonna

1123
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: have Oregon watching Utah go eleven of fourteen on third down,

1124
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: you would have said, that game is gonna have Oregon

1125
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: watching Utah celebrate on their home field afterwards. And that's

1126
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Utah is another example of why you

1127
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: don't sell teams down the river. In September. Utah started

1128
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: this season off very poorly. Utah has had so much

1129
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: off the field heartache, tragedy literally off the field for Utah,

1130
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: but they kept searching for the ignition. They've been in

1131
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: that dark rental car too. They keep searching for the ignition.

1132
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: And you know what happened. As teams with adequate talent

1133
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: and good coaching tend to do, if you didn't give

1134
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: up on them and they didn't quit on themselves, they

1135
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: find it. They find a gear. Good teams aren't just

1136
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: bad all year. It's too long a season. It's twelve weeks.

1137
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: So guess what happened Utah started getting better. When Utah

1138
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: came into the season, we picked him to win the

1139
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 2: PAC twelve South. Utah is playing at that level now,

1140
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: they're playing at that caliber level now. Now they've already

1141
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: got three losses, so they're out of the playoff picture.

1142
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: But Oregon, Oregon got a handful last night.

1143
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: That's the kind of team that Utah I thought was

1144
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: gonna be capable of being all year. For whatever reason,

1145
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: it didn't pan out early. But man, don't quit on teams.

1146
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: Don't quit on teams like that early in the year.

1147
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: Here's the second thing you need to know. They may

1148
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: face off again in the PAC twelve title game, but

1149
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: Oregon's got to take care of some business first. Oregon's

1150
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: got to play well. They got to play Oregon State.

1151
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: They also got to play coach Stewart up there at

1152
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: Oregon State. Who, by the way, I'm gonna credit my guy,

1153
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: George George W. I'm gonna call him George W out

1154
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: on the West Coast. He knows who he is.

1155
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: He's got that beautiful blue check mark next to his name.

1156
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: He knows who he is. He's been campaigning.

1157
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: He's been campaigning for a certain head coach at Oregon

1158
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 2: State to be more predominantly mentioned in the USC coaching search,

1159
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: and George Reister is right. I don't like acknowledging it

1160
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: because he's wrong a lot of the time, especially when

1161
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: referencing me, but he's right. Jonathan Stewart's up there doing

1162
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: really good things at Oregon State. This is not going

1163
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: to be an easy game. I don't even know if

1164
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: it's Friday or Saturday right now. It's not going to

1165
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: be an easy game. And Oregon they got to make

1166
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: sure they win this thing first, and they didn't last year,

1167
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: so they're going to make sure they win that one first.

1168
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Cripplingly disappointing outcome for Oregon esday, to say the least,

1169
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: so they're out of the playoff picture. We're going to

1170
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: talk about that more in just a second. Clemson, well,

1171
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 2: they took care of wake Forest, just what they did,

1172
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: and to put a finer point on it, they smoked

1173
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: wake Forest yesterday.

1174
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: Just had a bad feel on this one.

1175
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: We had a great red hot weekend, but one of

1176
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: the games we whiffed on spectacularly was this one. We

1177
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: had Wake plus four and a half, never had a shot.

1178
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: It was just the wrong side. Everybody and I mean

1179
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: everybody scores on wake Forest, even Clemson in their darkest

1180
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: offensive times. Clemson scores on wake Forest five hundred and

1181
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: forty three yards. Yesterday they had three hundred and thirty

1182
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 2: three on the ground, They had six point two yards

1183
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: per carry, and they finally made some place seven of

1184
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: eleven on third down. Their receivers looked like Clemson receivers.

1185
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: It was just it was a great day to be

1186
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: a Clemson Tiger. Great weather, it looks like, so maybe

1187
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: some of you get a nice little late November Base

1188
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: ten as well. Clemson is now well they always were,

1189
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: but they are still in position to believe it or

1190
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: not potentially when the ACC.

1191
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: What do they need to have happen? Well, don't worry.

1192
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: I was reading one of Chip Patterson's pieces on cbssports

1193
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: dot com.

1194
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: This is what they need.

1195
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Clemson needs Boston College to beat wake Forest. That just

1196
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: has to happen because Wake's only got I think one

1197
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: conference loss right now. Now, you may think to yourself,

1198
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: but it says they've got two losses there, and if

1199
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: I'm remembering correctly, one of those losses was to North Carolina,

1200
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: an ACC team, and obviously Clemson's an ACC team. So

1201
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: you fool, what do you mean they've only got one

1202
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: conference loss. Well, I'm not gonna make it make sense

1203
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: to you, but I am telling you the North Carolina

1204
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: loss does not count as a conference loss because the

1205
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: North Carolina game, even though they shared the same conference,

1206
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: was scheduled as an out of conference game. That's why

1207
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: I love college football. It's sometimes you just got to

1208
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: go shruggy emoji. So yes, even though they're nine to

1209
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: two with two losses to ACC teams, they have one

1210
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: conference loss and therefore Clemson does need weight to lose

1211
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: another conference game, So they need them to lose against

1212
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: wait Force, and then the only other thing Clemson needs

1213
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: to have happen is North Carolina State to lose to

1214
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: either Syracuse.

1215
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Or North Carolina.

1216
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: There's a halfway decent shot that still happens. So the

1217
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: Tigers are still in it. Texas Tech's not. They got

1218
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: body bagged yesterday twenty three to nothing at the hands

1219
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma State, which is a team that has a

1220
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: lot of Clemson resemblance.

1221
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: This is an Oklahoma State.

1222
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Team that started off very slow and now they've really

1223
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: found their group.

1224
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Here's the difference.

1225
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State did not lose multiple games in the process.

1226
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: While Clemson was dropping some games, Oklahoma State was beating

1227
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: Missouri State by seven and beating Tulsa by five, and

1228
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: beating Boise by one and beating Texas by eight, but

1229
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: they all count as wins, and so in this case,

1230
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: as it turned out, wins were wins.

1231
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: Well, then Oklahoma.

1232
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: State found a different gear and now they're running it

1233
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: up on folks, and they also happen to be playing

1234
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: lights out defense, and now they're surging Texas Tech. They

1235
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: got over one hundred yards total offense yesterday, but it

1236
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: took all sixty minutes for him to do it.

1237
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: I think they had one.

1238
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: Hundred and eight at the end of regulation. And now

1239
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: we've got Bedlam this week. And that is for those

1240
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: unfamiliar Oklahoma State versus Oklahoma Sooners three and a half

1241
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 2: point dogs in Stillwater three and a half point dogs.

1242
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: So here's what you need to know about the Big

1243
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: Twelve picture. Oklahoma State is, for my money, easily the

1244
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: best shot that this conference has of the playoff team.

1245
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it more in a second.

1246
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: These are the Big Twelve standings if Oklahoma State beats

1247
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: Oklahoma this Saturday, or Friday. I get mixed up on

1248
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: the days for these rivalry games. There is no Sooner rematch.

1249
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: It is Oklahoma State versus Baylor.

1250
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: I believe if.

1251
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: It pans out that way, if Baylor takes care of

1252
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 2: business this week, so Oklahoma their shot is to beat

1253
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and then do it again.

1254
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: That's what they have to do.

1255
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: So it is a very tall order and we'll break

1256
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: that game down on Tuesday. Also, Cincinnati really handled SMU yesterday.

1257
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: Forty eight to fourteen was the final. They had four

1258
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: different guys with at least thirty five yards rushing. So

1259
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: this is obviously the way that you've expected them to

1260
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 2: play for a while. First question that comes to mind

1261
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: is what took so long? But then the compliment you

1262
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: give is Okay, we'll better late than never, obviously, but

1263
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: is it better late than never? Well, I guess the

1264
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: obvious answer is yes, did it come too late? And

1265
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about more in a second. Boy,

1266
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: a lot of teases in this segment, huh. I say

1267
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 2: that because we put these videos as individual videos on YouTube,

1268
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: so there is no in just a minute, you got

1269
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: to be watching the long form show for this to

1270
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: make sense Cincinnati's got one more game before they go

1271
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: to the conference title game, and that is not going

1272
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: to be easy. And it's against a team that we've

1273
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: been high on and we've been riding for several weeks.

1274
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: We went three consecutive weeks winning betting on them. We

1275
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: hit the pause button yesterday, and I'm speaking about East Carolina.

1276
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: We hit the pause button yesterday just the right time. Well,

1277
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: since he's got to go to East Carolina this week,

1278
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: they are a fourteen point favorite. Make no mistake, this

1279
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: is a losable game. It's not if they are surging

1280
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: at the right time. But I don't know what to

1281
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: make of yesterday's result. So Cincinnati's got one more game,

1282
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: then they got the conference title game. If they win

1283
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: both of those games, this is by far the G

1284
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: five's collective best shot ever of having a team in

1285
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: the playoff. And I figure, since we're talking about that,

1286
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 2: now is as good a time as ever to ask

1287
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: that question if since he wins out, are they gonna

1288
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: make the playoff? And that's where I pause, so Colin

1289
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: can cut that video and now I can transition into

1290
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: what I wanted to talk about. For like the last

1291
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: five minutes, the playoff picture coming out of Week twelve.

1292
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: In some ways it's cleared up. In other ways, it's

1293
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: still very murky. So let's very very quickly talk about

1294
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: what we know now that we did not know going

1295
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: into yesterday morning. We know Oregans out of this thing.

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Speaker 2: They were a top four team twenty four hours ago.

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: We know that the ACC is not going to have

1298
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: a team in the playoff, which we already did know.

1299
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: We now know the Pac twelve is not going to

1300
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: have a team in the playoff. We did not know

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: that twenty four hours ago. We know Michigan State is

1302
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: now done officially. We did not know that twenty four

1303
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: hours ago. So the number three team and the number seventeam,

1304
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: we can remove them. They will not be in the

1305
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: college football playoff. Tuesday's rankings are coming, and there is

1306
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: going to be a very big deal made about where

1307
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is in relayship into Michigan. I do believe Ohio

1308
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: State may jump Alabama. We had Ohio State above Bama

1309
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: last week. We already made that move in the JP

1310
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: pole two weeks ago. We made that move. I think

1311
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 2: it may happen with the committee Tuesday night inconsequential, don't care.

1312
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: Here's my favorite sentence, it'll sort itself out. Well, I'm

1313
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: about to use my favorite sentence again because I don't

1314
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: really care much whether Cincinnati and Michigan are four or

1315
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: five respectively. I guess I think Michigan may be above Cincinnati,

1316
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: but I don't think I care all that much, because

1317
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 2: here comes the sentence, it'll work itself out, and it'll

1318
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: work itself out because I happen to have it on

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00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: good authority. Michigan is playing Ohio State Saturday, and we'll

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: be there right there on the sideline for it.

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00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: So it actually will work itself out.

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00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Now, here's where it may matter whether Cincinnati is placed

1323
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: ahead of Michigan come Tuesday. It matters maybe because it

1324
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: gives you a little preview of how the Committee views

1325
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: Cincinnati against other elite or approach elite Power five teams. Now,

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Speaker 2: that won't matter when it compares them versus a Big

1327
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Ten champion, because you will not have a scenario where

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Speaker 2: it is Cincinnati or the Big Ten champ.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: If it's a two loss Big Ten champ, they're out,

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Speaker 2: and if it's a one loss team, they're gonna be

1332
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Speaker 2: in regardless where it may matter, and what it may

1333
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: come down to is measuring Cincinnati, an undefeated AAC champ

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Speaker 2: against let's say, like a two loss Alabama who just

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Speaker 2: lost by three to Georgia. A lot of you are

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Speaker 2: already rolling your eyes at that. Well, I'm not here

1337
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: to arbitrate this between you and the committee. I'm just

1338
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: telling you that may be what it comes down to.

1339
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: So if you see Sincy at four instead of five,

1340
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: maybe a good indication that they've got a little more

1341
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: respect from this blowout win over Cincinnati or over SMU.

1342
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna help their resume, and their actual resume

1343
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: didn't get boosted at all yesterday. They just beat up

1344
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: on another inferior team. I mean, that's what on paper

1345
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 2: it looks like. We'll see if the human beings agree

1346
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: with that. What about Notre Dame? So Notre Dame is

1347
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: so floating around there, there are shark fin in the

1348
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: playoff waters this year. They are At last check they

1349
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 2: were number eight. We'll see where they are this week.

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 2: This is the first time that I think Notre Dame

1351
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: may be in line to cost themselves a shot at

1352
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: a playoff because they're not in a conference that's has.

1353
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: Never happened before.

1354
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: They've gotten in despite not being at a conference, but

1355
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: they've never had a spot taken from them because they

1356
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: didn't play in a conference.

1357
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: And it may be happening.

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, as I've said for a long time, is

1359
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: not going to join a conference because you want them to.

1360
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: They're not going to join a conference because it would

1361
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: make everything look more congruent harmonious. They're in my estimation,

1362
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: has only been one thing that was going to entice

1363
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame to join a conference, and that is if

1364
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: the time ever came that they clearly cost themselves a

1365
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: spot in the playoff because they did not have a

1366
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: conference championship game to go play for and win. If

1367
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Speaker 2: this team were in the ACC this year, they would

1368
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: be obviously headed to Charlotte to play for the conference championship,

1369
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: they would be the favorite to win the conference championship,

1370
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: and they would be in prime position to make the

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. As it stands right now, they are

1372
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: in all likelihood going to finish eleven and one. They'll

1373
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: be sitting at home as they always do on Conference

1374
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: Championship Saturday, and it may very well be that they

1375
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: get boxed out of this thing. And even though I've

1376
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: agreed that Notre Dame belonged in in the years they've

1377
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: been put in, I don't think they're going to belong

1378
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: in this year unless some things happen. And so there

1379
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: are certain disaster scenarios that are still out there. If

1380
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati loses either of these next two games, that's a

1381
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: disaster scenario that could put Notre Dame above them. I

1382
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: think that very well could happen. Also, if you have

1383
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: the Big twelve or the Big ten bumper car scenario

1384
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: where we have a spot open up that maybe we

1385
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: didn't think was going to open up. Notre Dame's not

1386
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: out of this. I'm just telling you largely, if the

1387
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: chalk holds, they will be out of it, and it'll

1388
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: be largely their own doing. There's going to be a

1389
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: lot of top I can go ahead and get you

1390
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: ready for it. There's gonna be a lot of talk

1391
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: Tuesday night about a twelve and one Big twelve champion.

1392
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 2: Let's just say it's Oklahoma State, because I've already gotten

1393
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: a lot of you in my inbox asking about this,

1394
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: so I'll ask you again. You can talk in the

1395
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: live chat if you want to, even though I got

1396
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: to crane my neck to see it. But you can

1397
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: talk in the comment section if you're watching the replay,

1398
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: how would you measure a twelve and one conference champ

1399
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State against the likes of a two loss Alabama

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: or against the likes of a Notre Dame or a Cincinnati.

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm putting them in. That's where my head's

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01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: at right now. I'm having trouble with two los Bama

1403
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: because the way we're normally talking about Bama.

1404
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: We've done this before, not two losses, but we've.

1405
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: Done this whole Alabama as a non conference champ thing before, and.

1406
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: I've advocated for them to be in.

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: But it's because those Alabama teams were dominant teams that

1408
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: just happened to play in the wrong division. It was

1409
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: a year where more than two of the best teams

1410
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: were in the same division. That is not the kind

1411
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 2: of Bama team we're looking at this year. And I'm

1412
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: not on the committee yet, but I'm telling you if

1413
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: it comes down to a twelve and one conference champ

1414
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, to show you I had no bias in

1415
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: twenty eleven when I was so hardcore on the other

1416
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: side of this, I'd probably advocate for Oklahoma State over

1417
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: at too Los Bama.

1418
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm pretty sure I would.

1419
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: The only thing that's giving me a little trepidation is

1420
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna see in Atlanta in

1421
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. And let's just assume Bama's gonna

1422
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: win Saturday in the iron Ball. Let's just assume that

1423
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: for argument's purposes, I don't know what I'm gonna see,

1424
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, Like if I go to Atlanta and I

1425
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: watched them play a two overtime classic with Georgia and

1426
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: they lose by a point or something like that, that's

1427
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: a lot different than what I may think happens, you know,

1428
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, Like I think Georgia is

1429
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: solidly the better team. And so what I'm saying is

1430
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: it may change my mind and I may come out

1431
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: of it. And I can tell you a lot of

1432
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: other people if that were to happen, they're gonna come

1433
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: out of it saying the same thing. They're gonna come

1434
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: out of it, and they're gonna apply logic and power

1435
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: to a merit based argument, because logic and the more

1436
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: power rating mentality would say, hold on a second. If

1437
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: you're telling me Bama's number two or three and they

1438
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: played the number one team and they barely lost to

1439
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: the number one team, doesn't that just validate that they're

1440
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: the second or third best team. The answer is yes,

1441
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: it would, But that's not how this works. This is

1442
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: a resume, merit based competition that is blended with power,

1443
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: So there is still a healthy respect if Alabama is

1444
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: that caliber team. But that's why you don't go lose

1445
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: to Texas A and m as A eighteen whatever point favorite.

1446
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: You lose the opportunity to make that argument. You got

1447
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: one loss on that resume. That's a little bit different story.

1448
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, whether it's right or wrong, whether

1449
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 2: I power rate them highly or not, they are going

1450
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: to have lost that ability. Now they're still going to

1451
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: be in the conversation. But as for me and my household,

1452
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: as of the Book of Joshua, would start to say

1453
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: to you, and I believe twenty four to fifteen, it

1454
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: doesn't finish with the way I'm about to It's the

1455
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: sentence I would put Oklahoma State in. That's who I

1456
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: probably would go with. But I think there's going to

1457
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: be a lot to talk about that Tuesday night, and

1458
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 2: that's where a majority of this conversation is going to center.

1459
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: Now you're going to start to hone in more and

1460
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: more on how a two loss Bama is going to

1461
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: be accepted or not accepted. Will the one loss big

1462
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: twelve champ if we have one have a good enough resume.

1463
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: There's a thought out there that Oklahoma.

1464
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: May be out of it.

1465
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: Regardless, I got to see that to believe it. I'm

1466
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: just saying that's the thought out there. Does the Big

1467
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: ten end up being Ohio States? Does Michigan upset Ohio

1468
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: State Saturday and all of a sudden change the conversation entirely.

1469
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: Will Wisconsin be able to fulfill the Big ten bumper

1470
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: card disaster scenario where we don't even have a Big

1471
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: ten team in the playoff? That's what could really turn

1472
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: it upside down. So, as you can see, there is

1473
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: a lot that's still very hazy about the playoff picture.

1474
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: What's not hazy is we are extremely red hot right now.

1475
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: We went i want to say, ten and two yesterday.

1476
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: So the Ramnul Express is cruising, cruising and really padding

1477
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: that percentage at the end of the year.

1478
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: So why stop That's my question. Why stop now?

1479
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: This was the year or this is the week. By

1480
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,959
Speaker 2: the way, last year that I was made a fool

1481
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: of is one of the weeks. Let's just put it

1482
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: that way, where I've been made a fool of this

1483
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: time last year, we gave out our single biggest bet

1484
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: of the season. Anyone remember it, longtime viewers, will I

1485
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: cannot even begin to describe to you how confident an

1486
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: I was in Virginia over Virginia Tech last year and

1487
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: it just never happened, and I was stunned.

1488
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: I was the.

1489
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 2: Shocked monkey gift mouth wide open, look into the left

1490
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: and right stun So, what I'm trying to tell you

1491
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: is I'm giving you these responsibly, and I'm giving you

1492
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: them with the proper caution in mind. Let's jump on it.

1493
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois plus three and a half. This is a

1494
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: weeknight game, Ohio minus five and a half. I believe

1495
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: also a weeknight game NC State eight minus six and

1496
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: a half.

1497
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: Get it.

1498
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: I think it's going to seven Arkansas minus thirteen and

1499
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: a half. You have several of these out there, but

1500
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: there are also some fourteens. Have yourselves, multiple shops, have yourselves,

1501
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: multiple outs Texas A and M minus six and a

1502
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: half against LSU.

1503
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: I can also tell.

1504
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: You unequivocally we will be on Minnesota and if you

1505
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: see a seven out there, they're playing Wisconsin. If you

1506
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: see a plus seven, grab it. It's one of our

1507
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: favorite games this week. We're not moving on it yet

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: because it's plus six and a half. We think Minnesota's

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: got a shot to pulling out right upset this week,

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: so we're gonna like it in any number. There is

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: no sense in us moving on it at six and

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Speaker 2: a half at the moment, so we are going to

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Speaker 2: stick with these five A and M minus six and

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01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: a half, Ohio minus five and a half, Arkansas minus

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half, Love Arkansas, NC State minus six

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01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: and a half, and Northern Illinois plus three and a half.

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01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: I imagine we're moving on at least five more games.

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: We'll probably have double digit games again this week. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna end very strongly. Do me a favor, by the way,

1520
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 2: I've just put the advice there in the live chat.

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: We have a huge week coming up. There's going to

1522
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: be a lot of coaching news. There is going to

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: be obviously a lot of more betting picks. There is

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Speaker 2: so much happening December. Late November and December is our

1525
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: highest trafficked month of shows that we do for obvious reasons.

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: Make sure you're following on Twitter and Instagram because we

1527
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: don't have a show every hour at late kick Josh,

1528
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: make sure you're following. So much is happening, so many

1529
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: different things the eye Josh, I got to keep the

1530
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: battery charged. But we are very blessed to have a

1531
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: lot of information coming in here, kind of like a

1532
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: hub of information. Try and get to you what I

1533
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: can get to you. You got to make sure you're

1534
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: listening to the pods and following there as well as

1535
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: watching the shows on YouTube to get everything. We try

1536
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: and talk about everything you need to know on this

1537
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: show and leave out all the garbage you don't need

1538
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Speaker 2: to know.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much.

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: For watching tonight well over an hour, probably the longest

1541
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: show we've done. Told you we were jam packed. Direct

1542
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: Colin and producer Jesse did a heck of a job

1543
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: getting this show ready. Today I just sat here with

1544
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: my little button nut and talk. So thank you so

1545
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: much for you guys being tuned in. As I said,

1546
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: make sure you're following Twitter, and Instagram at Late Kick.

1547
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: Josh full story about the trip to Columbus coming up

1548
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: on the Tuesday morning edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast,

1549
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: So keep that in mind, and also keep in mind

1550
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: anyone in ann Arbor in close proximity to the Big House.

1551
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 2: I need parking for Saturday. I need parking, okay, and

1552
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: I want you to.

1553
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: Help me out. That's as plain as I can put it.

1554
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: So I'll be waiting to hear from you. Until then.

1555
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: Again for calling and Jesse, I'm Josh Baton. Have yourselves

1556
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: a great start to your Thanksgiving week

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Speaker 1: And God bless