Speaker 1: Hey, how is August treating you? It's been long and hot,
Speaker 1: hasn't it. Have you taken any vacations? Have you spent
Speaker 1: any days by the pool or by the side of
Speaker 1: a lake. August, with it sometimes almost unbearable heat, invites
Speaker 1: us to slow down, to relax, to take a few moments,
Speaker 1: to check out of the hustle, the bustle, the crazy making,
Speaker 1: and soak in everything that makes life wonderful and worth living.
Speaker 1: I've spent many an hour watching my kids playing the
Speaker 1: big plastic pool we set up every summer. They splash,
Speaker 1: they shriek, the giggles come lifting out of the water
Speaker 1: and drift across the yard like effervescent bubbles of joy.
Speaker 1: Whether it's your kids or grand kids or the neighbors kids.
Speaker 1: I hope you've been witnessed to this type of unfair,
Speaker 1: uttered glee this summer. If not taken afternoon and head
Speaker 1: to your local park, a child's laughter works like a
Speaker 1: powerful infusion of happiness. That's today's medical advice from dr
Speaker 1: to Lilah. A dose of happiness just one kitty park away,
Speaker 1: one splash pool away. I've also taken a whole lot
Speaker 1: of photos this summer hundreds of photos to the ad
Speaker 1: to the tens of thousands of pictures I've taken over
Speaker 1: the years. I love my pictures of summer, Shenanigan's first day,
Speaker 1: last day of school, concerts, performances, new babies, birthdays, celebrations,
Speaker 1: kids jumping in the pool. I love my pictures of
Speaker 1: my farm, the flowers, the critters, the changing seasons, and
Speaker 1: I keep all of them in a jumbled mess, in boxes,
Speaker 1: tucked into corners of my closet, up in the attic,
Speaker 1: on my phone, on my laptop. There has to be
Speaker 1: a better way, and in fact, there is a better way.
Speaker 1: I've discovered a service that's going to solve my problems
Speaker 1: of too many photos and not enough organization. It's called Forever.
Speaker 1: Forever is an online company that provides permanent storage of
Speaker 1: all your digital memories permanent as in Forever. Unlike cloud
Speaker 1: services or other photo services, there are no monthly or
Speaker 1: yearly subscription fees to pay at Forever, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about missing payments and losing access to
Speaker 1: all your digital memories. I know you're intrigued, just as
Speaker 1: I was, so I invited CEO and founder of Forever,
Speaker 1: a brilliant guy named Glenn meekom out to my farm
Speaker 1: today to have lunch in the garden and then give
Speaker 1: us the rundown on how this all works. Before we
Speaker 1: are talking about forever, though we already ate our lunch outside,
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Speaker 1: friends with me in the studio for today's edition of
Speaker 1: Love Someone. Is a fascinating man that I've had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to have lunch. I think it to know a
Speaker 1: little bit better, and now you're going to get to
Speaker 1: know him a little bit better. Glenn Meekom, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Delila Studio to Love Someone today, and uh and
Speaker 1: to my farm. Well great, hey, Delia, it's great to
Speaker 1: be here with you. You have you have yet to
Speaker 1: meet the emos. But did you see them over your
Speaker 1: shoulder while you were dining? I did. I saw some
Speaker 1: sort of animal like that in the distance and just beautiful.
Speaker 1: Delila's farm is amazing and it's an honor to be here.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. I used to do
Speaker 1: a weekend radio show, so I kind of like having
Speaker 1: the sound of my ears. You used to do a
Speaker 1: weekend radio show where I did, and uh, well it
Speaker 1: was it was in Pittsburgh and it was the FM
Speaker 1: News Talk one or four point seven and then Katie
Speaker 1: Ka because FM News Talk, so it was a serious program.
Speaker 1: I talked. I talked politics and economics and history and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it was funny. You know, I never went into
Speaker 1: talk radio as much as I love talking and as
Speaker 1: much as I love because you have to know stuff
Speaker 1: like you have to be educated and informed. I would
Speaker 1: much rather be out playing in my garden. I would
Speaker 1: much rather be, you know, building volcanoes with my six
Speaker 1: year old than like actually being informed. I mean, the
Speaker 1: things I'm passionate about. I know a little bit you do.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. We listen to you on my
Speaker 1: member myself, members of my team, we listened to you.
Speaker 1: We listened to Delilah, and you give great advice. I've
Speaker 1: been I've been listening to you in the last two
Speaker 1: weeks a lot, and you give and I've listened for years,
Speaker 1: but just recently because we've we're working together, I've been listening.
Speaker 1: And you give great advice to people. Thank you. When
Speaker 1: you've made many terrible life choices as I have, I
Speaker 1: can say I don't really know what you should do,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you what you shouldn't know. You
Speaker 1: should not marry somebody just because they're cute and funny.
Speaker 1: Cute and funny got me into a lot of trouble. Glenn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you've been married. So first let's talk about who
Speaker 1: you are and Wicker here on this podcast with me
Speaker 1: and love someone today. UM, and then we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to you've been married forever, but you are the
Speaker 1: founder of Forever dot com cor. When I had this idea,
Speaker 1: was the whole idea was I thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a family guy. I've been married all these years.
Speaker 1: I've got five kids, my wife and I and we
Speaker 1: have and I love, as I told you at lunch,
Speaker 1: I love family history. I love history in general. And
Speaker 1: I have all this stuff video tapes to my grandparents
Speaker 1: video tape. But before my father died, I got a
Speaker 1: great video tape of him talking about his life and
Speaker 1: his experiences and what do you do with all that?
Speaker 1: And I and I realized, if it's sitting in a
Speaker 1: on a tape or something in a box, no one's
Speaker 1: enjoying it. No is experiencing it now, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: get lost. So I said, okay, it's got to be
Speaker 1: in the cloud. It's gotta be in the Internet cloud.
Speaker 1: But I started reading all the terms of service, so
Speaker 1: all these different you know, cloud storage places, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna delete it if you stop paying every month, they're
Speaker 1: gonna try to get you back for a year, then
Speaker 1: they're gonna delete. If it's social media and they're basically
Speaker 1: data mining your stuff and then using that information to
Speaker 1: sell access to you to advertisers, Okay, that means it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's not really free because they're data mining you.
Speaker 1: But um, but even if you're not, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, you get old, you get Alzheimer's, you die.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna die someday. Right, you're no longer valued valuable
Speaker 1: to an advertiser. Well if if if the whole economic
Speaker 1: model for keeping your stuff is because you're valuable to advertisers,
Speaker 1: when you're gone, you're not valuable, So they're gonna delete
Speaker 1: your stuff. And I was reading all the terms of
Speaker 1: service to all these different services and realize that this
Speaker 1: is not what I need. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to place. I want a cloud storage and sharing service
Speaker 1: where I know all these photos, all these videos, audio files,
Speaker 1: special documents, special precious memories are going to be there,
Speaker 1: not just for today and tomorrow, but for generations into
Speaker 1: the future. It didn't exist. So I said, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to start a company. That's right, I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I've started a number of companies, and so you started
Speaker 1: forever dot com because you told me this at lunch,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to bust you on it. Because you
Speaker 1: had a video tape of your grandparents that you gave
Speaker 1: to family members and they all lost them but one,
Speaker 1: and you said, wait a minute, this is they're gone.
Speaker 1: Now you know our grandparents are gone. We need a
Speaker 1: better way to store and share these great memories and
Speaker 1: these great traditions, traditions. So who was the one that
Speaker 1: actually kept the videotape of your grandpa? It was my uncle.
Speaker 1: Your uncle kept the video table. Yeah, my brothers asked
Speaker 1: them and they didn't know where they when I shared
Speaker 1: this years ago now, but I shared the VHS tape
Speaker 1: And people people lose things all the time. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. The people who really care about the family memories,
Speaker 1: that would be my sister. My sister is the keeper
Speaker 1: of our family memory, right, and your sister Dianna. Right.
Speaker 1: So Dianna needs a permanent digital home where she knows
Speaker 1: that just that that if she organizes and keeps all
Speaker 1: the family memories in that place, it's gonna be there
Speaker 1: and it's never gonna be lost because not every one
Speaker 1: of the children, not every one of the grandchildren is
Speaker 1: going to really care, but there will be some who
Speaker 1: really do. There will always be those family memory keepers
Speaker 1: in every generation who want that stuff, who want to
Speaker 1: have the photos and want to have the videos. And
Speaker 1: how good of my sister is. If I say, do
Speaker 1: you remember that picture blah blah blah, do you remember
Speaker 1: that time? She says, yes, I have that. Can I
Speaker 1: have that? No, No, you cannot because you will lose it,
Speaker 1: she says, which I will. Well, and this is what
Speaker 1: and forever solves that problem because now she can make
Speaker 1: she can be the keeper, and she can share the
Speaker 1: digital file with you, and you can lose the digital
Speaker 1: file all you want. She's still got the core her
Speaker 1: digital home intact, it will never get lost. So back
Speaker 1: to your relationship, because you said you've been listening to
Speaker 1: my show and to my advice, and clearly you don't
Speaker 1: need my advice because you've managed to stay married for
Speaker 1: more than three decades. Yeah. Well, Um, I'm lucky. I
Speaker 1: I've I've met a wonderful woman. Um, we had both
Speaker 1: had our you know. One of my favorite, um, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite country songs is that song and you're
Speaker 1: the you're the music expert, not me, but God bless
Speaker 1: this broken road, broken road that led me straight to you.
Speaker 1: And I think that love that song. I love that
Speaker 1: song because you know, and this is the thing. Everyone's
Speaker 1: got a broken road. Oh some of us have really
Speaker 1: broken roads. Some of us took the off road ramp.
Speaker 1: You know. I've never been one to stay on a freeway.
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay on a freeway. I want
Speaker 1: to take the back road. I want to take the
Speaker 1: off road. I want to go on the road last travel.
Speaker 1: But that's oftentimes a really broken road. Yeah, yeah, it's good,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Me. I think it was um. I forget
Speaker 1: what famous poet wrote about that. You know, there was
Speaker 1: that they were on the road and there was a
Speaker 1: fork in the road and they took the road less
Speaker 1: travel than that made all the difference was that. I
Speaker 1: think it was Robert Frost, But I think about that recently.
Speaker 1: I was driving it was COVID. I was driving from
Speaker 1: my home I live outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I was driving
Speaker 1: on the highway and there was nobody in the highway.
Speaker 1: It was just completely empty because I was like the
Speaker 1: only one in the city. Going to going to work,
Speaker 1: and of course the safest place to be was it
Speaker 1: the office because no one was there. But I'm there
Speaker 1: and I'm driving, and I'm thinking to myself, well, you
Speaker 1: know the nice thing about going And I've gone my
Speaker 1: own way too. I'm different from you. Maybe I haven't
Speaker 1: um had as many um obvious stumbles, but um, but
Speaker 1: everybody has their stumbles. And but I've definitely gone my
Speaker 1: own way. I don't I don't copy anybody else. And
Speaker 1: the great thing about going your own way and choosing
Speaker 1: your own road is you don't spend much time in traffic.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that about here. You know, here at
Speaker 1: your farm, there's not a lot of traffic here, no traffic,
Speaker 1: my traff I laughed, because people talk about the me
Speaker 1: that commute home was miserable, and I always laugh. Say,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you want to make, if people
Speaker 1: want to make a find real meaning in life. And
Speaker 1: of course you know, you and I are both churchgoers,
Speaker 1: and um, you know there's real meaning and believing in
Speaker 1: God and trying to find your purpose of God and
Speaker 1: having faith. But in terms of your professional activities or
Speaker 1: your life making a living, it really helps to go
Speaker 1: your own way. It helps to really say what what
Speaker 1: do I want to do? What do I love to do?
Speaker 1: And if you can find a way to earn a
Speaker 1: living doing what you love to do, life is just
Speaker 1: so much better and you make such a bigger contribution,
Speaker 1: so much better. I call it the sweet spot. You
Speaker 1: know where you find that spot where your great passion.
Speaker 1: For me, it's connecting, it's connecting. My great passion. I
Speaker 1: love to connect people. I love to introduce people. I
Speaker 1: love to play matchmaker and introduce people that fall in love.
Speaker 1: I love connecting people. So when I took that passion
Speaker 1: and married it with the world's great need, which is
Speaker 1: people are lonely at night. You know, radio reaches different
Speaker 1: people at different times for different reasons. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're listening in morning drive, you want to know where
Speaker 1: the traffic mess is, unless you're taking a back road
Speaker 1: like you and I do. But people, you know, want
Speaker 1: to know what happened in the news, or they want
Speaker 1: to know where the traffic problems are, and they want
Speaker 1: to be entertained. But at night, people want to slow
Speaker 1: down and they want to process the day, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people are desperately lonely. Especially it's so Funny,
Speaker 1: people in big cities are the loneliest people I've ever
Speaker 1: talked to. The bigger the city, the lonelier the soul.
Speaker 1: And so when I can take my passion, which is connecting,
Speaker 1: and share it on the radio to meet that need
Speaker 1: of reminding people that they have great worth and great value,
Speaker 1: then it works. Your passion is being an entrepreneur, but
Speaker 1: your real passion, you know, out outside talking over lunch,
Speaker 1: is your family. Family. Every two seconds, who would come
Speaker 1: back to your son, Matthew, every you know, or your
Speaker 1: wife or this or a ski trip or so you
Speaker 1: took that passion, yeah, and and and figured out that
Speaker 1: there's a need families have. And if as I told you,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of entrepreneurs do this, they
Speaker 1: see a need that they identify themselves. It's a need
Speaker 1: in their own life. And then you say, well, gee,
Speaker 1: do other people have this need to when you do
Speaker 1: a little research and realize yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: have this need and that's a business opportunity. And that's
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about the free market, right My
Speaker 1: first company was called free Markets, And the great thing
Speaker 1: about that economic freedom is, hey, I have the freedom
Speaker 1: to go start a business and meet a need and
Speaker 1: hopefully I can create a lot of jobs and create
Speaker 1: a lot of value and create a great service for people.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's creating that UM, it's it's helping
Speaker 1: society by meeting a need people have. And in our
Speaker 1: case with Forever dot Com, it's how many how many
Speaker 1: people do you have that that are now being able
Speaker 1: to support themselves or their families because they work with you.
Speaker 1: Seventy five full time employees at Forever and UM we
Speaker 1: also have twenty seven hundred UM affiliate salespeople, so people
Speaker 1: who earn a commission as being a Forever ambassador. And
Speaker 1: these are the people that I need, because the ambassador
Speaker 1: actually comes and hand holds you through the process of
Speaker 1: collating and putting together the videotapes the VCRs. Absolutely, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there are there are we have ambassadors. So we have
Speaker 1: some in Australia, some in New Zealand, some in England,
Speaker 1: but mostly in the US, and quite a few in Canada.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, there are people in pretty much every
Speaker 1: community out there, every major metro certainly who can come
Speaker 1: and help and uh, and many of them are organizers,
Speaker 1: will help you organize your stuff and get it digitized
Speaker 1: with you know, with Forever, because we digitize everybody's old
Speaker 1: stuff and we also VCRs. You can digitize this. We
Speaker 1: can dig ties anything, old family movies, my sister, I know,
Speaker 1: I know she's hoarding themselves, movies, everything. We can digitize everything.
Speaker 1: And then of course, you know, you create your photo books,
Speaker 1: you create holiday cards. You don't need to go when
Speaker 1: people are going to this service for their holiday cards,
Speaker 1: their Christmas cards, and they're going over here to print
Speaker 1: a photo book, and then they've got stuff in storage
Speaker 1: over here, and then they've uploaded stuff over there, and
Speaker 1: they've got a bunch stuff on their phone, and then
Speaker 1: they got stuff at home and boxes. That is the mess,
Speaker 1: that's the photo or the memory mess most people have.
Speaker 1: And my life, that's my life. It's everywhere, it's everywhere,
Speaker 1: and it's nowhere, like I don't have a spot where
Speaker 1: everything is. And that's and it's a process, right, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's not like anybody's going to click their fingers
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they have all their memories organized.
Speaker 1: But what people really need what I identified as a
Speaker 1: problem ten years ago, and the solution is people really
Speaker 1: need a permanent digital home a place where they can
Speaker 1: over the months, in years, with the help of an
Speaker 1: ambassador or on their own, they can you know, sink
Speaker 1: their phone and get all their photos and videos that
Speaker 1: are new. You saw how many are on my phone?
Speaker 1: How many? Isn't that insane? We need to get that
Speaker 1: all on your new forever account. Isn't that insane? And
Speaker 1: they're not really organized to They're probably just all a huge,
Speaker 1: massive photo role. Yeah. So I do have a lot
Speaker 1: of albums because you know, I put pictures of you know,
Speaker 1: baby Paul in this one, and Little Delilah this one,
Speaker 1: and goats. I have just an album of goats, just goats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. Goats are important in my life. They're very important.
Speaker 1: Why ask me, why what do I do with my goats?
Speaker 1: What do you do with your Absolutely nothing but love
Speaker 1: on them. Sometimes we have milk goats. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: no goats milk. I love goats, making goats cheese and
Speaker 1: lavender soap out of goat's milk. But right now I
Speaker 1: don't even have a goat in milk, so we're not
Speaker 1: milking any goats right now. So No, they're just adorable
Speaker 1: and I just loved them. One thing I've learned in life,
Speaker 1: and I've been around long enough to have learned a
Speaker 1: few things, is what makes life so rich in the
Speaker 1: world so rich, is that everybody is different, and everybody
Speaker 1: has different interests. And when you get into the detail
Speaker 1: of anything, it's like, I had no idea you could
Speaker 1: make lavender soap out of goat's milk. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of smart people working really hard and making a
Speaker 1: contribution and and and worrying about all different kinds of things.
Speaker 1: And that's what makes society go around. And your part
Speaker 1: right now is helping. Especially. It's got to be like moms. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we always say it's something because dads have one
Speaker 1: picture in their wallet. Right, it's moms and grandma's are
Speaker 1: are primary, that's right. Our primary clients are mothers and grandmothers.
Speaker 1: Um not a lot of teenagers. Because we we find
Speaker 1: once once a woman's had that baby, now she's thinking
Speaker 1: about twenty years, thirty years, forty years ahead of her
Speaker 1: before that. She's not thinking so long term. But once, no, no,
Speaker 1: not even once she has the baby. It's once they
Speaker 1: start school and and they have the kindergarten graduation and
Speaker 1: they have their first recital, and they learned to play
Speaker 1: the little recorder, and then they learned to play the horn,
Speaker 1: or they go into choir. All of a sudden, you've
Speaker 1: got pictures and videos and and you need something to
Speaker 1: do with them, right, And you also know as a mom,
Speaker 1: as a parent, you know, because we have a few
Speaker 1: good we have a lot of great moments. We have,
Speaker 1: you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of fabulous women.
Speaker 1: We have a few good men. We always kid about
Speaker 1: that that, you know, the old Marine Corps tagline, A
Speaker 1: few good We definitely have a few good men at
Speaker 1: Forever who really care about the family memories too. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, there's an expectation now that hey, that rehearsal
Speaker 1: dinner party is going to be coming up in twenty
Speaker 1: five years, and you're going to need the baby pictures.
Speaker 1: Where all the baby pictures go, where all those videos go?
Speaker 1: Where are we gonna get all that? You know? Where
Speaker 1: do you keep all that stuff for my sister? Isn't
Speaker 1: that horrible? How I just I naturally a zoom that
Speaker 1: Anna is just going to handle all that. She's always
Speaker 1: been the one to handle not just the family memories,
Speaker 1: but the family business. You know, the family get together as,
Speaker 1: the family trips, the family stuff. She's like always been
Speaker 1: even before mom and Dad passed. They were really young
Speaker 1: when they died, but even before they passed, somehow she
Speaker 1: stepped into that role either she decided she wanted to
Speaker 1: or by default that that she is the keeper of
Speaker 1: our family traditions, our family stories. Yeah, that's important, and
Speaker 1: that's I would say that I have this I have
Speaker 1: this chart where you have some people are really big
Speaker 1: memory keepers, like Deanna, and they're the ones who really
Speaker 1: really need to have that permanent digital home at forever
Speaker 1: dot com and organize all the family memories and keep it.
Speaker 1: But then you have other people who are the satellite people.
Speaker 1: They need to be able to have an account to,
Speaker 1: they need to be able to share and see, but
Speaker 1: maybe they're not as in to the really being the
Speaker 1: big organizer. But we we want to provide that permanent
Speaker 1: digital home for that big organizer person and all of
Speaker 1: her family around her, and that's that's what we do.
Speaker 1: So back to your story, is in your family your
Speaker 1: wife the keeper of all this or have you always?
Speaker 1: I would say Diane and I my wife is Diane.
Speaker 1: We both how many years how many years together. God
Speaker 1: were this summer? Thirty three years we've been married. Good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've kept it together. It's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: work in process, you know, it's not I think keep
Speaker 1: having a successful long marriage is about UM marrying well,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta find somebody who's compatible and who
Speaker 1: you really love, and but it's also a question of
Speaker 1: UM really loving each other, respecting each other, and listening.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I've learned to do. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were I think every marriage has its really tough moments,
Speaker 1: and a lot of marriages blow apart when those tough
Speaker 1: moments come. But um, I think I gotten a lot
Speaker 1: better at listening than I used to be. And that's
Speaker 1: been one thing that's been important in keeping our marriage together.
Speaker 1: Is that because you've just naturally evolved into this better listener?
Speaker 1: Or did Diane say you never listened to me and
Speaker 1: I am so sick and tired of this? Like did
Speaker 1: she actually lay it out there or did you just
Speaker 1: come to a realization? Oh no, I think that, Um.
Speaker 1: One of the keys is communications. So no, we one
Speaker 1: thing about our marriage is we we communicate. That means
Speaker 1: sometimes we fight and sometimes you know, we we we
Speaker 1: we can weather all the time. You need to be
Speaker 1: able to fight with your your spouse or your significant
Speaker 1: another so long as you fight kindly. When you have
Speaker 1: a disagreement or a problem that arises and you become mean,
Speaker 1: mean spirited or say mean spirited things, you just you
Speaker 1: just destroyed the fabric of your your marriage. Agree with
Speaker 1: your union. But if you can disagree kindly, like still
Speaker 1: respect the other person, but veheimately disagree. Um, that's that's
Speaker 1: how you work through things. I agree with you, And
Speaker 1: I think that where so many relationships go off track
Speaker 1: is that people just can't talk and can't be honest
Speaker 1: with each other. And you're totally right. I always this
Speaker 1: is the way I like to run a company too,
Speaker 1: Is you think about it, It's the same in the marriage,
Speaker 1: same in apparent child relationship, same in a company relationship
Speaker 1: where you gotta be honest if you're not gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: and you gotta respect one another. And I call it,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like honesty and then graciousness. If you
Speaker 1: can be honest with each other and gracious with each other,
Speaker 1: and by the way, that takes this thing called courage.
Speaker 1: I really think in our society today We don't talk
Speaker 1: enough about courage that it it takes courage to actually
Speaker 1: speak the hard truths and be honest. It takes courage
Speaker 1: to confront your own past, be honest with yourself. And
Speaker 1: that's the way it is in life. In marriage, if
Speaker 1: you can actually speak the truth, have the courage to
Speaker 1: speak the truth, and then speak it in a great
Speaker 1: as you're saying, in a gracious way, then you can
Speaker 1: have a conversation and and respect each other and work
Speaker 1: through whatever the issues are and keep a marriage together.
Speaker 1: If if you can't speak the truth and you're not
Speaker 1: gracious to each other, it's gonna blow apart. Glenn and
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Speaker 1: So I've been on active duty after college. Then I
Speaker 1: was in the reserves, working normal job and met my wife,
Speaker 1: I got married. Um I was, I was in graduate
Speaker 1: school and then I volunteered went back on active duty
Speaker 1: to serve in the First Call four. This is and
Speaker 1: I was a combat engineer officer. I served was over
Speaker 1: there for six months. I came back. Well, my wife,
Speaker 1: we've been only married about a year year and a
Speaker 1: half when I went, and I had no idea going
Speaker 1: into this. You know, I thought I was the one
Speaker 1: who was serving, right. I had no idea how um,
Speaker 1: how much the spouse or the mother or father or
Speaker 1: brother and sister who are left behind, how much they're
Speaker 1: serving too. I mean, it's really something. It's a really
Speaker 1: it's a huge burden. And yeah, because it's not like
Speaker 1: you're out of sight, out of mind. They're worrying, praying,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where you are, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Are you safe, are you fed? Are you too hot?
Speaker 1: You know, exactly exactly. So she Diane was very supportive
Speaker 1: of me doing this volunteering and serving, and she's very
Speaker 1: patriotic as em I, and she was very supportive. But
Speaker 1: you know, then I'm gone for all this time and
Speaker 1: I got back and it was wonderful coming back, oh
Speaker 1: or you know. But but also, you know, when you've
Speaker 1: been gone a long time, it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: finger and a bucketful of water. You know, you pull
Speaker 1: the finger out. You know, it's kind of like people
Speaker 1: learned to kind of live without you, and then all
Speaker 1: a sudden you're back in and it's it's very stressful.
Speaker 1: So we went and did some counseling. So We've been
Speaker 1: married thirty three years, and we've done counseling at various
Speaker 1: points in our marriage, and this was the first time.
Speaker 1: And we went and uh, and I remember we sat
Speaker 1: down for the first time with this counselor and and
Speaker 1: he looked at me and said, well, why are we here?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, you know, Diane's been very upset
Speaker 1: and this and that and the other thing. And and
Speaker 1: of course he physically moved, because the three of us
Speaker 1: were sitting kind of, you know, like a triangle, he
Speaker 1: physically moved his body, shifted away from Diane, looked straight
Speaker 1: at me and said, Glenn, let's talk about you. So
Speaker 1: he wanted went right for the heart of the matter, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that that, um, you know, when this
Speaker 1: gets back to what keeps relationships together, what keeps family together,
Speaker 1: is when we when we are aware of ourselves. I think,
Speaker 1: when if you're blaming other people for the problems, maybe
Speaker 1: you're the problem. It's it's such a it's such a
Speaker 1: pleasure to talk with you. It's a real honored to
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Speaker 1: more information to go to Forever dot com. Lynn. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for spending time with us today, and thank
Speaker 1: you for being so delightful. God bless you. Thank you, Delia.
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Speaker 1: I've welcomed Forever into my world, and I'm sure I'll
Speaker 1: have much more to say about them in the coming
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Speaker 1: his wonderful ambassadors I met about three d and fifty
Speaker 1: of them are waiting to welcome you aboard. August is
Speaker 1: coming to a close soon, back to school, cooler weather,
Speaker 1: falling leaves, and the apple harvest approaches, a whole new
Speaker 1: season to be excited about, and with many, many, many
Speaker 1: picture taking opportunities that lie ahead. Make the most of it,
Speaker 1: and I'll be right here cheering you on with every
Speaker 1: time you say say cheese. Join me nightly on the air,
Speaker 1: daily on my short form podcast, Hey it's Delilah, And
Speaker 1: in another two weeks be back here on Love Someone,
Speaker 1: when I'll have another fascinating guest to sit down with.
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