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Speaker 1: Guys, we are back on Bromley The Show with Romalis

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Speaker 1: takes for when the news gets weird. I am markasan

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Speaker 1: him and.

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Speaker 2: I am Karl Marks Big News, Mary Katherine. Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is not that and he didn't resign. That was the

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Speaker 2: other insane thing that people were speculating that he was

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Speaker 2: going to hold a press conference and resign because they

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Speaker 2: had never even heard of Donald Trump before to imagine

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Speaker 2: that he would do.

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Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, I just what, guys.

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Speaker 2: The left has their own conspiracy theory insanity like this.

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Speaker 2: But then it makes me feel worse overall, you know,

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Speaker 2: like it's like, I'm glad the right doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: monopoly on crazy people believing crazy things and just asking questions,

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Speaker 2: just asking really stupid questions. But then it does make

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Speaker 2: me worried about the country as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we also have a troll in chief, which

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Speaker 1: means once he knows that this is what people do

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Speaker 1: when he takes two days off, he's going to we

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Speaker 1: aren't taking two days off so that people will just

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Speaker 1: absolutely spin out online and then he can come back

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Speaker 1: and be like trick yah, I'm alive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other thing about that troll in chief is that

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Speaker 2: he has an incredible ability to unmask the other side.

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Speaker 2: I think that he really makes them do and say

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Speaker 2: crazy things. Let's hear from Tim Walls, who was Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris's VP pick, because he was such a normal guy,

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Speaker 2: Mary Catherine, he was such a normal guy. He would

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Speaker 2: appeal to other normal guys. And then he said.

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Speaker 3: This, you get up in the morning and you doom

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Speaker 3: scroll through things. And although I will say this, the

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Speaker 3: last few days you woke up thinking there might be news,

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Speaker 3: just saying just saying there will be news sometime, just

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Speaker 3: so you know there will be news.

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Speaker 2: Really there will be news. Donald Trump will die someday.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're sharing with us.

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Speaker 1: Walls also, just like, in addition to being creepy and trashy,

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Speaker 1: it's so online because unfortunately we to some extent, we

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Speaker 1: have to live our lives on the internets, on the

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Speaker 1: social media's. But for normal people over Labor Day weekend,

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Speaker 1: they were not experiencing the crash out of the left

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Speaker 1: fantasizing that Trump was dead. But Tim Walls, of course

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Speaker 1: was because despite being a very normal football coach, this

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Speaker 1: is the life that he this is the circle he's in,

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Speaker 1: and he knew that everyone he was talking to at

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Speaker 1: that event would be conversant in the idea that this

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Speaker 1: was the big fantasy over the weekend, and I just

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Speaker 2: Guys are weird. You guys are weird. Stop being weird.

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Speaker 1: Okay. In addition to coming back, you know, from his

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Speaker 1: weekend hiatus, Trump came back strong.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say weekend at Bernie, but okay, close.

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Speaker 1: He came back strong with announcements that, you know, when

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Speaker 1: we had sort of anticipated this, that National Guard will

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Speaker 1: possibility list. The announcements have kept it mostly to immigration enforcement,

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Speaker 1: which is a federal issue, but it's clear that Trump

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Speaker 1: going to go do it. We're going to go do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And for some reason, the governors of those states

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Speaker 2: just not sure is the right strategy here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sympathetic to governors or mayors who are like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: this isn't within your power, and there are certain things

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Speaker 1: Now everybody sees that there could be a way to

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Speaker 1: I get their concerns, and I have concerns too, But

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Speaker 1: So a lot of folks just go like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: And as we pointed out in a previous episode, there

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Speaker 2: with that. That's not fascism. This is fascism.

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Speaker 1: Let's also note national Guard in the nation's capital after

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Speaker 1: January sixth, for like six to eight.

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Speaker 2: Months, right, they were there was fascism in very large numbers.

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Speaker 1: Right, So this is not an unprecedented thing. And the

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Speaker 1: fact is there are real problems in these cities. And

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Speaker 1: let me let you hear Jamie Pritzker, the governor of Illinois,

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Speaker 1: who should be on top of solving these problems, tell

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Speaker 1: especially pat his past weekend, fifty four shot, seven dead.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say the city's not safe. Would you

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Speaker 4: Look, big cities have crime, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is

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Speaker 4: doing targeting shadow. He's overlooking red states that have much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't say that, Oh, just big

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Speaker 2: and expect that to be okay. Donald Trump is actually

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Speaker 2: saying we can help solve this, we can help with this.

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Speaker 2: You can't be the governor of Illinois and say no,

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Speaker 2: thank you. This is just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: What it does is say and Brandon Johnson is the

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Speaker 1: same way. Who's the mayor of Chicago. Brandon Johnson? Oh gosh,

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Speaker 2: Right, Indiana is always like, why are you guys looking

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Speaker 1: No, And what it does is it absolves him of

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Speaker 1: to someone who will solve the problem.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. In as Stepman, she lives in New York now,

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Speaker 2: but she used to live in DC, and she tweeted

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Speaker 2: a single solitary bum in or around Union Station. I

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Speaker 2: the idiocy. I mean that is huge. I see Union

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Speaker 1: And I also one last point on this. I am

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Speaker 1: Like I'm open to that idea. What I'm not open

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Speaker 1: but my friend Matt Connetti, who writes for Commentary and

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, another Donald Trump thing that he did

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Speaker 2: once he confirmed that he was still alive. Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 2: US military forces conducted a kinetic strike against positively identified

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Speaker 2: trend Ragua Narco terrorists in the southcom Area of Responsibility

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Speaker 2: TDA is a designated born terrorist organization operating under the

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Speaker 2: control of Nicholas Madura, responsible for mass murdered, drug trafficking,

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Speaker 1: makes that very clear. However I call it however, however,

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Speaker 1: I call it occasional bellicosity. Like he likes the flex

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was expecting actually some pushback. It's

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Speaker 1: feel okay about that, We feel good about that.

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Speaker 2: Will be right back on normally with the story of

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Speaker 2: a British comedian being arrested for some tweets pathetic written.

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Speaker 2: Don't like it at all. Be right back. We are

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Speaker 2: back on normally with the story of Graham Linehn and

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Speaker 2: A pass absolutely. A Prime Minister spokesman said this is

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Speaker 5: In Russia last year, four hundred people were arrested for

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Speaker 5: What sort of things get you up? One example I've

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Speaker 2: My goodness in Britain.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll be right back on normally where we're going

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Speaker 2: Well. Derek Thompson, he is the author of the book

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Speaker 1: Well it's funny because this is like a warning sign

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Speaker 1: They just mean they just need people, right. Their argument

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Speaker 1: Uh And so I don't know, I'm really not sure

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Speaker 2: Especially especially as on our last episode we talked about

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Speaker 2: the writer at the Financial Times who discovered that maybe

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Speaker 2: liberals should be having more kids and the kids who

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Speaker 2: are being born in the US are larger being born

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Speaker 2: and all of that. So, now that you guys have

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Speaker 2: made that leap, maybe make the next leap of yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going to need more kids.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the big demographic issues for New York City,

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Speaker 1: these are these little time bombs planted during COVID and

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Speaker 1: before because there was some you know, as cities began

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Speaker 1: to turn way left and liberals began to turn way

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Speaker 1: left and to forget about governing, which is what Derek

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Speaker 1: People started leaving. People started leaving, and then I term

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Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty, I watched cities commit suicide exactly.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you're telling commercial real estate to hollow

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Speaker 1: itself out. You're telling your entire tax space that commutes

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Speaker 1: in not to come. You're telling people that they're going

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Speaker 1: to spend a lot of money to live in this city,

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Speaker 1: but it no longer has any of the perks that

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Speaker 1: and museums. And also they're going to get mugged more often.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to go well for you, and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't gone well for them, And this is going to

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Speaker 1: have electoral con sequences moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Only someone had seen this coming, Mary Catherine, If only

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Speaker 2: someone had said something.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we said a few things.

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