Speaker 1: Doctor.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the new Rory and
Speaker 2: Maul Podcast. I am Maul and Roy and today we
Speaker 2: are joined by Rory. This is a friend, friend of
Speaker 2: the show, friend of the family. Haven't seen this gentleman
Speaker 2: since our lives, our last live show on the yere correct,
Speaker 2: but he's been working his ass off. One of my
Speaker 2: favorite rappers right now.
Speaker 3: He here to kick it with us.
Speaker 2: Today's new album out now, sock into my pocket. We
Speaker 2: got Queen's very owned. Wrong Streets is in the building.
Speaker 2: We got Netflix Zip here to your ain't gonnaz zip.
Speaker 2: As soon as room got here, he was like, yo, Zip,
Speaker 2: ain't are you queens Niggas said, look at queens. It
Speaker 2: makes your Queen's always in the building. So Netflix hip
Speaker 2: is here with us today.
Speaker 1: Rome.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Family?
Speaker 1: Cool man'll listen.
Speaker 2: I told you when you got here, I said, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm opening my phone all week. Soon was out my phone.
Speaker 2: The first person I see is Roan Streets going and
Speaker 2: you sitting down talking to anybody good moving around. I
Speaker 2: love seeing that. I love seeing people, you know, really
Speaker 2: patching in and tuning in to Rome Streets because I
Speaker 2: you know you know this, but you're one of my
Speaker 2: favorite rappers. And to see everybody finally, you know, bring
Speaker 2: you on their platforms talking to you socking to my
Speaker 2: pocket is crazy since we since we saw each other
Speaker 2: last at our last live show here in New York.
Speaker 3: What's been up with you, man?
Speaker 2: Besides working like just just roam, what's been going on
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 1: I've been good, man. I've just been enjoying this ship.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I've really been doing a lot of shows, like touring,
Speaker 4: just going places.
Speaker 1: I went to fucking Thailand. I went.
Speaker 4: I was that ship was different first of all, Like
Speaker 4: I didn't really even expect to be going out there.
Speaker 4: Like these producers that I did a joint with a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. It hit me up and was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: we want to do like a mixtape with you, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I like, all right, fuck it.
Speaker 4: I did it, and they're like, yeah, we want to
Speaker 4: fly you out to Thailand to perform and ship. And
Speaker 4: then I was out there for like a week just
Speaker 4: running around. I'm like, damn, I'm really in Thailand. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like over wrapping the way I want to rap, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And the way they perceived the music over there.
Speaker 1: The way and it was just like seeing how like.
Speaker 4: Modern the city is like my my like perception of
Speaker 4: how it would have been versus how it actually was
Speaker 4: was like two different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you expect.
Speaker 1: It was gonna.
Speaker 4: Basically like I talked to a lot of people and
Speaker 4: they was like, yo, son, don't drink the water, like
Speaker 4: brush your teeth with motherfucking on bottled water, don't eat this,
Speaker 4: don't eat that, don't do this. And when I went there,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, that shit felt like I was in
Speaker 4: New York. Certain places. I'm just saying, like, just how
Speaker 4: people was interacting with me. It wasn't like they didn't
Speaker 4: understand me. Man, people were speaking English. It was a
Speaker 4: lot of people from America out there. I was running
Speaker 4: into them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of people are moving there. Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of people moving different It's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool.
Speaker 4: And then also like I did like a Europe tour,
Speaker 4: so I was all over Europe running around. I was fun,
Speaker 4: do you.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you get more.
Speaker 2: Like love overseas, because like there's a lot of guys
Speaker 2: that say, you know, when they go overseas Europe and
Speaker 2: age and things like that, they're like amazed at the
Speaker 2: amount of love that they get when they leave their
Speaker 2: own country.
Speaker 5: Like those fans give a fuck because they don't get
Speaker 5: to see the ship all the time.
Speaker 1: That's true, but.
Speaker 4: I feel like they just have a different appreciation for shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And then, like I guess,
Speaker 4: you know, being from New York, like there's always something
Speaker 4: going on, you always got mad options, Like there's probably
Speaker 4: a concert going on right.
Speaker 1: Now, you know what I'm saying. Like other places in Europe,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 4: If I have a concert in certain places, that's the
Speaker 4: only thing.
Speaker 1: It's like if you like rap, you gon be there.
Speaker 4: And then the way they just interact is different, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Certain places out here, fans
Speaker 4: is like they'll be fucking with it, but they'll just
Speaker 4: be standing there watching it. Yeah, and they'll probably be
Speaker 4: having the time of their life.
Speaker 1: But they just move differently. Over there.
Speaker 4: The niggas be jumping out, they skin like I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm a fucking soccer player and ship like.
Speaker 1: The way you mean.
Speaker 4: It's fun though. It's a lot of love our here too, though,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just different when you go out of the country
Speaker 2: and and that just like you said that, they don't
Speaker 2: get it as often as we do. We become kind
Speaker 2: of spoiled with it because we can living in New York,
Speaker 2: somebody's performing somewhere every night. But when you go to
Speaker 2: these different different countries and things like that, even if
Speaker 2: they don't know you, they know that, Okay, this is rap,
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 3: To see that Americans American rap.
Speaker 5: When we were in London and went to go see
Speaker 5: Rock Marcy at that this is a festival too much.
Speaker 5: It's not just a Rock Marcy show. And usually festivals,
Speaker 5: obviously people are there to see a different bunch of
Speaker 5: different acts. I've been to Rock Marcy shows in New York,
Speaker 5: but the London show, the whole festival, knew every fucking work, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah London, Yeah, But then London is like the place
Speaker 4: that's most like here because you feel like I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 4: London is like yeah, yeah, London is like another state.
Speaker 4: Like if you go there and really like interac with
Speaker 4: niggas and ship like it feels like you hear, it's
Speaker 4: just you in a different place, whereas like if you
Speaker 4: went to like Germany, like yeah, you in a whole
Speaker 4: nother country where coach is different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4: You don't really feel out of place in London like
Speaker 4: when you in certain places like you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because London is like that ship is hood too, like
Speaker 4: niggas be thinking. Honestly, it's hood everywhere because it's not necessarily.
Speaker 1: Like hood. Ship is the mentality of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Like you could be in a place that
Speaker 4: probably don't look run down and ship, but it's the
Speaker 4: hood because of how niggas act in the area, So
Speaker 4: you can't never think you go someplace in it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because people's getting high everywhere, so there's a hood somewhere,
Speaker 4: just like what you might be.
Speaker 1: Used to, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I've been doing a lot of ship just based
Speaker 4: off of this rap ship. You mean, like I honestly
Speaker 4: don't really be having time to do nothing else. But
Speaker 4: then it's like I really don't want to have time
Speaker 4: to do nothing else, you know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 4: when I had all the time in the world to
Speaker 4: do ship, I was getting in the ship right.
Speaker 1: So now it's so.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, this is what I gotta
Speaker 4: do every day, Like down.
Speaker 1: For it, you know what I'm saying. You want to
Speaker 1: do more? Yeah? What what was your favorite stopping Europe?
Speaker 1: This time of Amsterdam? Amsterdam is always lit?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What else? Paris is fun? You know what I'm saying. Germany?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But I would say, besides, like going to London and
Speaker 4: ship Amsterdam is always fun.
Speaker 2: It's London, like because obviously you was born there. How
Speaker 2: much time did you actually spend in London though?
Speaker 4: All Right, So I was born in London. I moved
Speaker 4: to New York and I was one, okay saying, and
Speaker 4: then I started getting in trouble, like once I got
Speaker 4: to like junior high. By the time I got to
Speaker 4: like ninth grade, I was, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: wiling out, you know what I'm saying. So my mom
Speaker 4: sent me back to London to go like stay with
Speaker 4: my aunt and shit. So I was going to school
Speaker 4: out there, but I was coming back to New York
Speaker 4: during the summertime.
Speaker 1: So like from like fourteen to seventeen, that's what I
Speaker 1: was doing there the Jamaicans. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like in total, probably like four years out of
Speaker 4: my life, I was really.
Speaker 1: Like in London and good years though, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from like you know, I mean fourteen to like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you went in high school, layer, that's growing up.
Speaker 3: That's a very unique part of life.
Speaker 4: It was interesting because, like, you know, I was already
Speaker 4: I was already into ship by the time I went
Speaker 4: to London, Like I was smoking weed, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I was already selling weed, I was rapping.
Speaker 1: I was just into shit.
Speaker 4: So by the time I got to London, when I
Speaker 4: went to school, like motherfuckers already knew like oh yeah,
Speaker 4: you the kid from America and yeah, so it's like
Speaker 4: I was popular and I started rapping niggas after the
Speaker 4: fuck yeah you.
Speaker 2: Go over there, But did you go over there? Because
Speaker 2: you could get some shit off. You can get some
Speaker 2: six shit off in London. Like as an American, you
Speaker 2: go to London and you rapping in high school, you
Speaker 2: could be spitting somebody balls.
Speaker 1: A day, my own shit.
Speaker 4: Because you gotta understand, that's the ship that made me
Speaker 4: start rapping in the first place, because I was like
Speaker 4: I went to school, like I'm saying out here, and
Speaker 4: then like niggas that I knew. My whole life was
Speaker 4: at the fucking lunch table.
Speaker 1: Rapping.
Speaker 4: I'm like, O, yeah, niggas rap, but they was like
Speaker 4: stealing rhymes from like cash money nigga. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: those ain't your raps? Like, let me try to write
Speaker 4: my own shit. So then I just started. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm actually good at this shit. So I kept going.
Speaker 4: So by the time I got to London, like and
Speaker 4: then the thing is, I got cousins. They older than me.
Speaker 4: So one of my cousins, he's like twelve years old
Speaker 4: than me, but he from the Bronx, so he moved
Speaker 4: to London and like because he was wild and and shit.
Speaker 4: So I'm fucking with him. I'm fourteen, this nigga like
Speaker 4: twenty five. My other cousin is twenty four. So it's
Speaker 4: like they got niggas that the crowd. Yeah, but they
Speaker 4: knew niggas that had studios okay, so I was like
Speaker 4: they was like, Yo, my little cousin rap. So I
Speaker 4: was in the studio fucking with those niggas because when
Speaker 4: I was out here, I never had no access to
Speaker 4: nose studio.
Speaker 3: So it's like that you recorded your first raps in London.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was like the shit that my mom
Speaker 4: was kind of like trying to send me to London
Speaker 4: as a punishment. That kind of got lit because even so,
Speaker 4: like the weed was better out there, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I just had like more pull because I
Speaker 4: was a unique nigga, Like, oh, you're a Meria from
Speaker 4: New York and you you like into shit. So I
Speaker 4: was like influencing niggas out there too, like like one
Speaker 4: of my friends from out there is like a big
Speaker 4: time rapper in London and shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, well there was the grind ship popping at that
Speaker 1: time when.
Speaker 4: You want, Like I was there when the ship first started,
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so I see all of that ship.
Speaker 1: What did you think of it? Out the gate?
Speaker 5: Like I've learned to appreciate a lot of but it did.
Speaker 5: It did take me a little bit to get into it.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 1: I like that ship. I like it because I understood it,
Speaker 1: like I fucked with it. I like the vocabulary it
Speaker 1: like they used a lot of words.
Speaker 3: And the flow like the London flow like a lot
Speaker 3: of the rappers.
Speaker 4: That because you gotta understand this, Like me, when I
Speaker 4: went there, I realized.
Speaker 1: Like they ship was mad ahead of ours, like.
Speaker 4: As far as like even fashion, like them niggas was
Speaker 4: like when I went to school, Like the niggas was
Speaker 4: wearing prid is and gucchiese and he was playing soccer
Speaker 4: and ship, you know what I'm saying. But like like
Speaker 4: the Grim Ship, like they flows was different. But now
Speaker 4: if you really listen to how like niggas wrapped now
Speaker 4: the drill niggas and the trap like that's the same
Speaker 4: type of flows.
Speaker 1: They use the same flow patterns. It just got better
Speaker 1: word Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Like that's why like the London Ship, it's like lit
Speaker 4: now in that drill scene because the London nigga's been
Speaker 4: rapping like that.
Speaker 1: That's their original style of rap. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like they said that they like they rap like how
Speaker 4: I wrap too, But that's separate, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like they they call grime ship, am seeing they call
Speaker 4: this ship like rapping like hip hop, two different things.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the guys over there that I like,
Speaker 2: like pot of paper, you know, like Jay Huss with
Speaker 2: Dave Daves get busy. Yeah, Like it's a lot of
Speaker 2: guys over there that you know, really get into that raption.
Speaker 3: And really like put words together.
Speaker 1: We ever heard of cast is dead?
Speaker 3: Cash is dead?
Speaker 4: No, he wear a mask, but the mask looked like
Speaker 4: a real face, but it's not his face.
Speaker 3: No, I never heard him.
Speaker 1: That nigga's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cash is dead. I gotta check him out, home boy.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, London definitely was ahead of a lot of ship.
Speaker 5: But I'm still never gonna let Central Ce get that
Speaker 5: off that they was on Nike text before before us.
Speaker 5: That was the one thing that London was tripping on.
Speaker 4: Nahna, But I could say this, this is what London
Speaker 4: niggas was doing back then. They was wearing like they
Speaker 4: was heavy into like Nike track suits, like back in
Speaker 4: the early two thousands, like and when New.
Speaker 1: York niggas was wearing like.
Speaker 4: Those niggas went like jibols and just mad low or
Speaker 4: just like Rockaway.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 4: When I went to London, them niggas was wearing like
Speaker 4: the track suits with the with the the TN air maxes. Yeah,
Speaker 4: or they was wearing like like they was wearing mad
Speaker 4: Pradas and shit, they was wearing just mad low top
Speaker 4: shit like Jordan's was not lit like I was wearing
Speaker 4: Jordan's and they was like yo, take them fucking stace
Speaker 4: shoes off. I'm like, yo, yeah, niggas is retarded and
Speaker 4: now they wear Jordan's O D. But when I had Jordan's,
Speaker 4: they was not jacking the shits. Actually, thing was always
Speaker 4: big and na, I feel like but then I don't
Speaker 4: know because I was over here, But back then they
Speaker 4: was wearing a lot of like track suits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some West Indian ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's definitely, but Nike Tech specifically, Yeah, we'll take that.
Speaker 5: But you're right, there was always on that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of the soccer, you know, and
Speaker 2: they was wearing a lot of slim ship.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like how niggas dressed probably like you know,
Speaker 4: niggas wear baggy shit again now, but like all that
Speaker 4: like slim fit and sh that was all yeah, but
Speaker 4: they've been rocking that ye like they like like their
Speaker 4: exotic drip was like fucking academic sweatsuits. Like when I
Speaker 4: used to go back to New York, like we used to,
Speaker 4: me and my cousin used to go to like twenty
Speaker 4: eighth Street and buy all that ship for the low
Speaker 4: and then like go back to London and sell that
Speaker 4: ship for the high.
Speaker 1: Like the academic sweatsuits.
Speaker 4: Was the ship over there because you couldn't really get Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: all that ship was like ill to them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So said, you was born there?
Speaker 1: Do you have like dual citizenship?
Speaker 3: How does that work?
Speaker 4: I guess like I've been over in my whole life,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, So it's not like a.
Speaker 1: I guess I probably do.
Speaker 4: But I got an American passport, so I mean, but
Speaker 4: I'm a citizen over.
Speaker 3: Here having a passport over there, and I want to
Speaker 3: move to London. So yes, but.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you went over there, you will
Speaker 1: love that ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love London, but I love having a passport as well,
Speaker 2: because then you can go to all the different other countries.
Speaker 2: They're like you know what I mean, that's part of
Speaker 2: having the part about having the European passport.
Speaker 3: Let's talk soccer too, my pocket.
Speaker 2: You got a song on here with I d K,
Speaker 2: but the DreamCatcher joint as well, And the one thing
Speaker 2: that stuck out to me listening to this project was
Speaker 2: the different flows you jumped in on Dream Catcher and
Speaker 2: Time and Place with I d K. Like your flow
Speaker 2: is like you've you're I guess you could say that
Speaker 2: they would categorize.
Speaker 3: As one of the more lyrical rappers from the city.
Speaker 2: But like on those two records, in particular, to me,
Speaker 2: you sounded like a different version of Rome Streets. Is
Speaker 2: that something that you want to start showing more of?
Speaker 2: Like Rome got different styles, I could jump in different
Speaker 2: pockets because I didn't expect to hear Rome Streets id
Speaker 2: K record, Like I would never put y'all together, you know,
Speaker 2: even though i DK is ill, but I just would
Speaker 2: never pay y'all two together on the record. But what
Speaker 2: y'all did on that Time and Place record, y'all killed that.
Speaker 2: But in terms of changing your flow and your style,
Speaker 2: is that something you want to pay attention to more?
Speaker 2: Because we know the Rome Streets prototypical sound that we
Speaker 2: come to love you for. But like hearing you on
Speaker 2: those it sounded like a whole different room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, because I could do shit like that,
Speaker 4: And I'm saying I've been doing shit like that, like
Speaker 4: my old shit, like before, like.
Speaker 1: I was putting out the ship. I used to suck
Speaker 1: around stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But you know, like I feel like just being an artist,
Speaker 4: you can't just keep doing the same shit you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then it's like I just go
Speaker 4: off of energy. Like a niggas sent me to beat,
Speaker 4: I might go, that's fire, Like let me do some
Speaker 4: shit like that just because one nigga's not expecting it
Speaker 4: and I could do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And it's music at the end of the day, Like yeah,
Speaker 4: I wrap, Yeah, I'm lirical, but like.
Speaker 1: I make music. Yeah, you get what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: let's get.
Speaker 3: To that, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of niggas just be bought up, and
Speaker 4: it's like that's ill, but eventually you gonna hit the ceiling,
Speaker 4: like you gotta do something else. You don't have to,
Speaker 4: but it's good too. Autistreet is never just in one box.
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Speaker 3: The IDK record, How how did that come about? Did
Speaker 3: he send the joint or.
Speaker 4: Noah, No, nah, Like I've been I've been on i
Speaker 4: DK for a minute, like probably since like twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: maybe twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Like we just he reached out to me.
Speaker 4: You chopped it up, and I'm saying, I say him
Speaker 4: a verse for some shit a while ago. But like
Speaker 4: I had made the song already and I'm like, you
Speaker 4: know what, it'd be ill if I put somebody on this.
Speaker 4: So I was just trying to see, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, who could go on it? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, send it to I d K. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, sent it to him, and Nigga
Speaker 4: sent that shit back like the next day. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But it's ill because that wasn't the
Speaker 4: original version of the song, like the song was longer,
Speaker 4: like my verse was longer and shit. And then i
Speaker 4: DK was like, yo, you know, be Ill was like
Speaker 4: this song is hot, but he's like, yo, I got
Speaker 4: an idea, let me like arrange it in an ill
Speaker 4: way that I just think, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and I'm like being ahead, yeah, yeah, go ahead, because
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I'm never like
Speaker 4: super stuck in my ways when it comes to creating,
Speaker 4: you understand saying the only thing I'm stuck in my
Speaker 4: ways in is writing my own shit. But other than that,
Speaker 4: like when it comes to working with other creative niggas,
Speaker 4: like I'm open to doing shit like that because one
Speaker 4: all my shit is really just me working by myself.
Speaker 1: So now when niggas be like, yo, I got an idea,
Speaker 1: some big yo, go ahead, let me see.
Speaker 4: And then you know what I'm saying, he pieced it together,
Speaker 4: how he pieced it together, And I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 4: shit hard yeah, And then I'm like you know what,
Speaker 4: run it like that and then it just came out.
Speaker 1: Ill what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's definitely one that I got to shoot the album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all got to see myself if I mean from
Speaker 5: London and then moved to Maryland too.
Speaker 1: I think he was born in London as well. I
Speaker 1: think so moved to DC Maryland. I like non five
Speaker 1: mega non five mega.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that staf with Styles? Yeah, that's that had to be.
Speaker 2: Was that the That's the first time I worked together,
Speaker 2: right and Styles?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How was that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: That was fin I mean obviously that gotta be one
Speaker 2: of your favorite Yeah, hell you awesome?
Speaker 1: The shit?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's p one of my favorite rappers ever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was how I even met Styles. I was doing it.
Speaker 4: This was a couple of years ago, like I was
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, maybe twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I was. I was doing a photo shoot. Were awake okay.
Speaker 4: And me and Styles is in the shoot, but I
Speaker 4: got there first. So I was shooting ship and I
Speaker 4: was playing like some music that I had or whatever,
Speaker 4: and in the midst of it, Styles came we shooting
Speaker 4: and then he was like, yo, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 4: I'm like, goes like goes my ship. He's like, go,
Speaker 4: this is you my gig. He's like, go this shit hard.
Speaker 4: So then like you know, we just tapped in from there.
Speaker 4: And then I did that joint in ninety five Mega Ship,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, who can I put on this?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Obviously being no brainer to put Mega on there, but
Speaker 4: I had mego on my last album, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, the ship I did with Darrender and I
Speaker 4: got I got more shit with Mega too. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, who else could I funk with on there?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, send it to Styles and then like
Speaker 4: sent it to his manager and then he sent it back.
Speaker 4: He was like, go, it's cool if he just blackout
Speaker 4: on it. I'm like yeah, because he spent a couple
Speaker 4: of I'm like, Nigga's that's like you could drop a hundred.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give.
Speaker 5: Like that.
Speaker 1: Like, so that's how that ship came up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now obviously you know going things going on in
Speaker 2: the industry now with you know, rappers doing the small
Speaker 2: tooth thing. Yo, Like you said, yeah, so d D
Speaker 2: is it something that you look at that like a
Speaker 2: sign of respect? Like when Style send it right back
Speaker 2: when I d K sends it right back. Like if
Speaker 2: a artista, YO, send me something, let's do something, you
Speaker 2: actually send it, versus if you do send it and
Speaker 2: they don't ever give you a verse back. How do
Speaker 2: you view that as a rappers, like like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: I gotta just step my shit up.
Speaker 3: Maybe he don't respect my shit.
Speaker 4: Like that yet honestly, it's levels to it. It depends
Speaker 4: on how it happened. But I come to not take
Speaker 4: that personally because rappers be doing mad shit. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: there's times where niggas send me versus and I'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it, But sometimes I just don't get
Speaker 4: to it because one mad shit be going on two.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I might forget three. Sometimes it's like I just
Speaker 4: can't get to it. You understand saying, And then it's
Speaker 4: like I'll double back, cause it just happens. Bro, that
Speaker 4: shit happens. Sometimes you want to do it, you just
Speaker 4: can't get to it.
Speaker 1: Bro, It just happens. But like it be happening.
Speaker 4: So it's like once you get to a place and
Speaker 4: understand it, it's like you can't like you can't really
Speaker 4: be mad. You understand saying I've only been in one situation.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say a nigga name, and I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say I take it personally, but I'm gonna say, like,
Speaker 4: this is a situation where you might feel like, yo,
Speaker 4: I send you a verse, but I got you, I
Speaker 4: got you, I got you, and then I got you,
Speaker 4: give me scou, give me school, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: I got it. I record it, and then it'll be
Speaker 4: like all right, and then I see where you like,
Speaker 4: I got it. I hear it, and you be like,
Speaker 4: but I want to do it again.
Speaker 1: But I hear it.
Speaker 4: We go that's you hard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, you did it. I'm cool with it. You
Speaker 4: might not be cool with it, but it's cool enough.
Speaker 4: I understand why you'd be like, all right, I want
Speaker 4: to do another one.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, what can I ask you?
Speaker 5: Did he want to do any one because he heard
Speaker 5: your verse and wanted to re record his, or I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you feel like.
Speaker 4: The thing is though I don't look honestly with me personally,
Speaker 4: I don't even look at it like who got the
Speaker 4: better verse? It just depends on how the song goes.
Speaker 4: If I send you the song with my verse on it,
Speaker 4: you supposed to have a better verse. Yeah, because at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you got all day to
Speaker 4: listen to my shit. You to have the better verse.
Speaker 4: I'm already setting you up to have the better verse.
Speaker 4: I do not care, because I'm good at this already.
Speaker 4: If you spit a better verse than me, that means
Speaker 4: the song is fucking ex your fans gonna run to
Speaker 4: it because it'd be like, Yo, this might be the
Speaker 4: best verse I ever heard from this. So I don't
Speaker 4: care if you have the better verse. The only time
Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, who got the better verse?
Speaker 4: If we're right here, if me and you are in
Speaker 4: the same place, then it's like okay. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, it happens with rap because everybody
Speaker 4: listening for something different. You understand saying, it just is
Speaker 4: what it is, like that, I don't be heart broke.
Speaker 4: You're supposed to have a better verse if you send
Speaker 4: me your ship first, I'm supposed to have a better
Speaker 4: verse on that shit. I don't care, Like I don't
Speaker 4: really that shit don't dominate my mind. You understand saying,
Speaker 4: because it's like if if that ship is, if that's
Speaker 4: all I care about, I might as well have been
Speaker 4: a bad rapper, you understand saying Jay had.
Speaker 5: The best response when someone I forgot he was on
Speaker 5: ninety seven asked him how he felt about not saying
Speaker 5: m killed him on his own shit sad? What do
Speaker 5: you think I want Eminem to have a bad verse
Speaker 5: on my own so my album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're supposed to, because it's like I know I
Speaker 1: want a shitty Eminem verse.
Speaker 4: Like I'm the type of nigga like if I'm gonna
Speaker 4: send you something, I already know I'm sending you some ship.
Speaker 1: I already know who I'm sending it to you.
Speaker 4: I already know what I'm getting into, so I know
Speaker 4: that I gotta spit some ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm standing on it.
Speaker 4: So if you can have a better verse than me,
Speaker 4: that mean you jumped mad high. So it's like I
Speaker 4: want you to do that. That's you know, ship.
Speaker 2: But but the rapper's ego is something that we all understand.
Speaker 2: It's like if it's your song and you send somebody
Speaker 2: a verse and they they they you know they're going
Speaker 2: crazy on it. Sometimes the rapper ego shows up like.
Speaker 1: Nah, man, he can't.
Speaker 2: I can't let him do that to me on my record,
Speaker 2: Like looking at it, you gotta have a dude verse
Speaker 2: to do that though.
Speaker 4: But I put it like this, most niggas that I
Speaker 4: do songs with, I have multiple songs with them. So
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like you could get me,
Speaker 4: let's get it, you know what I mean? Because I
Speaker 4: want to for niggas that could rap r for real.
Speaker 4: Because it was a time when I thought I was
Speaker 4: the only nigga doing this. Everybody was doing jumping, jump
Speaker 4: up and down ship you understand sayings was like, damn,
Speaker 4: there's nobody for me to rap unlet's do the jump
Speaker 4: up and down ship now the mad people for me
Speaker 4: to rap with at.
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, you're having a good time right now. The
Speaker 2: MC for sure, Yeah it's cool.
Speaker 4: Like I want to rap with niggas, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I want to rap with NADS and Ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah you understand saying like anybody else is all right whatever,
Speaker 4: like we could get it going.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, that that picture went went kind of viral
Speaker 5: with you and NADS And obviously the last joint was
Speaker 5: a mass appeal, which was Nods, the owner of But
Speaker 5: all the comments when that photo went up was like
Speaker 5: we're expecting a record now, that's how the audience sees
Speaker 5: a photo. That means y'all better go to the booth now.
Speaker 5: Yeah the fuck being in that event. But what was
Speaker 5: like your first interactions with nas Like.
Speaker 1: It was cool because.
Speaker 4: I got like it's like some ob ship like I
Speaker 4: got sent for you got it, go get him? Yeah,
Speaker 4: like your son now's going to meet you. Come here
Speaker 4: at this time under still saying like at some restaurants,
Speaker 4: like I'm telling you, it was like I had to
Speaker 4: go to some restaurant in the back like it like
Speaker 4: I was like yo, he was like yo, I love
Speaker 4: what you're doing. It's like keep it up like we watching.
Speaker 4: It's like, y'all I'm proud, like I'm I mean, it's
Speaker 4: dope just to see what you got going on, like
Speaker 4: anything I could do to be behind you. And the
Speaker 4: thing is before that he had said no, no, actually wasn't.
Speaker 4: He had yad called me to go meet him, but
Speaker 4: then like he was just doing interviews mentioning me and ship.
Speaker 4: But you, I mean I was just unbeknounced to it.
Speaker 4: You mean, niggas just tagging me and ship, like, yo,
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's just ill.
Speaker 2: There's a rapper from especially being from Queens though. That
Speaker 2: had to be the moment where he was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: like I'm really ahighty. I'm like, Nas, I'm an ill
Speaker 2: nigga if NAS has got my name in different rooms
Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying. And then obviously he
Speaker 2: sent for you to come meet him and sit down
Speaker 2: and kick it into now releasing all mass appeal. I
Speaker 2: mean that gotta be a as a queen's and see
Speaker 2: that gotta be like that shit is crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really crazy because you know, like when you're
Speaker 4: in it sometimes you don't realize how it may appear
Speaker 4: to the outside looking in, but it's like from the
Speaker 4: inside looking out, it's still crazy to me, Like damn, yo,
Speaker 4: I got here, yeah, because like I remember, like I said,
Speaker 4: doing this shit, I didn't know nobody that could get
Speaker 4: me anywhere close to being seen.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like my first trying to get on was like all right,
Speaker 4: like let me try to get it on a smack DVD.
Speaker 4: I didn't know nobody who fucking knew smack. Like I
Speaker 4: used to go record in the coliseum. You understand saying
Speaker 4: like I used to go used to be a little
Speaker 4: studio right in the coliseum. I used to go there
Speaker 4: and record, you understand. I used to just play the
Speaker 4: app trying to run into niggas and ship like because
Speaker 4: back then it was like, Okay, you probably have to
Speaker 4: meet a rapper to go rapping. I just did know
Speaker 4: no rappers, you know what I'm saying. And now it's
Speaker 4: like nigga talking about me and sit in between all
Speaker 4: of that. Niggas used to just be like, Yo, rom Son,
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta make trap music, bro, Like this
Speaker 4: type of ship ain't lit no more, Like yeah, you
Speaker 4: ill at it, but you gotta switch it up, like
Speaker 4: you gotta do that first, and then that will get
Speaker 4: people to listen to that.
Speaker 1: You understand created you gotta understand.
Speaker 4: It's like that's what everybody's saying because they can't look
Speaker 4: past what they're eddy.
Speaker 1: C If everybody on the radio, everybody.
Speaker 4: On TV, you know what I mean, All the New
Speaker 4: York rappers is making down South music.
Speaker 1: It's like Rome, you gotta switch it up, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like to be able to get here doing
Speaker 4: what I do niggas.
Speaker 1: Is still trying to figure out if I can do
Speaker 1: some of that exactly. That's why I said I can
Speaker 1: funk around.
Speaker 2: And do that now based established now they want to
Speaker 2: step outside the box.
Speaker 5: With we're getting a know, Nas, are you very careful
Speaker 5: with certain things? Maybe you'll send him or like you
Speaker 5: have a certain folder that's like, this is just the
Speaker 5: Noad ship if he come to the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm saving all this to play for NAS. I put
Speaker 1: it like this.
Speaker 4: I'm not like it's going to happen like the way
Speaker 4: shit happened for me in just my whole career. It's like,
Speaker 4: I don't be forcing the issue. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like it's going it's gonna come to me if I
Speaker 4: just continue doing what I did that made things come
Speaker 4: to me already. So it's like, yeah, I might make
Speaker 4: some ship and I may Yo. I want Nads to
Speaker 4: get on this, so I'm gonna wrap my ass off.
Speaker 4: But if he don't get on it, it's like the
Speaker 4: level that I rapped on it once a nigga, even
Speaker 4: if it ended up being my own song, You're crazy.
Speaker 4: So it's all right. That just forces me to rap
Speaker 4: on a higher level. In general, because Okay, in my mind, yo,
Speaker 4: NOAs could get on this, send this to the A
Speaker 4: or see. But it's like if it don't, it's just
Speaker 4: another I probably just leveled up the way I rap
Speaker 4: just because it's like I'm trying to do something with
Speaker 4: the nigga that wraps the greatest, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, so it's still cool.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's gonna come and
Speaker 4: I least expect it, and it probably would just be
Speaker 4: some whole other ship.
Speaker 5: Like, man, yeah, what's so, what's your relationship like with Alchemists?
Speaker 4: Hey, that's the bro man, Like, honestly, I've known I've
Speaker 4: known Alpha for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1: Queens. Yeah, and it's like Queen.
Speaker 4: The thing is, it's like this whole ship to me
Speaker 4: is a full circle because like I said, I come
Speaker 4: from the era of like the j Arms mix tapes,
Speaker 4: the Sycamore fucking instrumental ships, where I'm just writing rhymes.
Speaker 1: To the ship and like umb sometimes I just get
Speaker 1: the CD.
Speaker 4: So it's like, unbeknownst to me, like my favorite ship
Speaker 4: just ends up being the Alchemist shit all the time,
Speaker 4: just subconsciously. So then it's like once I finally meet him,
Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, I already know who you is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's like, wow, I
Speaker 1: love man beat. Yeah, it's actually I've done. Yeah, I've done.
Speaker 1: I've done more show with al you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 4: But then also like just understanding how this ship works.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not always just about meeting a person.
Speaker 1: Like do some ship.
Speaker 4: I kicked it at our spot man at times, and
Speaker 4: I ain't right or rap nothing, just hanging out, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, While other niggas is doing it.
Speaker 4: I'm just on the wall, just kicking it, absorbing, chopping
Speaker 4: it up, you know what I'm saying, Because.
Speaker 1: That's how it be too, you know what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4: Like, because a lot of artists, you might want to
Speaker 4: do songs with them, oh yo, do some ship, and
Speaker 4: they might be like yeah saying it, but it's like
Speaker 4: they won't do a song with you unless you hang
Speaker 4: out with them. Because sometimes you like niggas be busters.
Speaker 4: You understand I'm saying, like, oh, y'all, do some ship
Speaker 4: and you do a song with a nigga and like
Speaker 4: it's happened. He just do some cornball ship like I'd
Speaker 4: rather just do music with niggas that I can hang
Speaker 4: out with without doing music that way, Like yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a better vibe. Like you understand I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: You find out your.
Speaker 1: Get that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I get it is
Speaker 4: it don't all always be about the niggain't do the verse.
Speaker 4: A lot of artists you gotta meet them, meet them
Speaker 4: on the spot. A lot of producers, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. You might meet them and be like, yo,
Speaker 4: you don't send me beat, But it's like they don't
Speaker 4: send beats. You gotta you gotta find your way to
Speaker 4: the lab, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean our studio is definitely that vibe too,
Speaker 5: Like all I'd be there, it'd be Earl not working,
Speaker 5: just chilling their evidence, be there with his daughter Like
Speaker 5: that's yeah. If you come in there on the let's
Speaker 5: work right away vibe. You're sucking up that place. We'll feature,
Speaker 5: will feature you.
Speaker 1: They get that had you fuck them, Like damn, I
Speaker 1: really got a feat from this person ship.
Speaker 4: Everybody sp you know what I'm saying, Just like banks,
Speaker 4: like I be trying to do songs with niggas, Like
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to do songs with niggas that I'm
Speaker 4: like real fans of you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So everybody who are you see me? Might do a feature?
Speaker 1: It is like, that's like corny, right crazy?
Speaker 4: Let me let me say this because I've seen what
Speaker 4: the I got that verse from Banks before all this
Speaker 4: ship going understand Niggers thought he was shooting and he
Speaker 4: actually got that verse from him. Crazy ship was going on? Man,
Speaker 4: because I see.
Speaker 1: Man on the interviews is corny?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you know one thing about rapping and
Speaker 4: ship A lot of times you might say something and
Speaker 4: they manifest. You know what I'm saying, Words is really
Speaker 4: like words got a lot of power for sure.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, as far as producers he worked with, obviously the
Speaker 2: chemistry I think you and Darren you have.
Speaker 3: Working with alchemists.
Speaker 2: Who was the producer that you haven't got a chance
Speaker 2: to sit down and build something with. But y'all know
Speaker 2: that it's gonna happen you already and you know you
Speaker 2: have some type of relationship, but you just haven't had
Speaker 2: that chance to really sit down and build nothing.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Someone that I that I've met, yeah, y'all, which
Speaker 1: I just didn't work with.
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure honestly, Like I feel like the
Speaker 4: niggas who I want to work with, Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: Hit Boy. I could say that hit Boy, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I would say, besides hit Boy, a lot of
Speaker 4: the producers that I've met, I've done something with them,
Speaker 4: whether it's come out or not. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Some most niggas that I want to work with, I
Speaker 4: haven't met them yet. But hit Boy is one of
Speaker 4: the producers that I've met. I mean that I see
Speaker 4: around hit.
Speaker 3: Boy makes sense. Yeah, he definitely would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. We talked about it.
Speaker 4: But every time, you know, like I'm in I'm in La,
Speaker 4: I'm saying he's probably not around or I mean like schedules,
Speaker 4: probably just saying yeah, any time I see him, be
Speaker 4: like Aromas cooked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit Boy for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's not small talk from hit Boy.
Speaker 1: He actually you want to come. It's just about you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, pulling up.
Speaker 4: And then also a lot of this ship like like
Speaker 4: like Alchemists Crib that's some invite only ship.
Speaker 1: You can't just can't pop up there because you don't.
Speaker 4: Know where it's at, like you. I mean, it's some
Speaker 4: mob shit, like someone who's already accustomed to go in there.
Speaker 4: Gott to bring you there, and then I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 4: next time you're around.
Speaker 1: Pull up.
Speaker 4: So it's like hit boy ship. It's like, all right,
Speaker 4: I spoke to him as ago, pull up next time
Speaker 4: you're around. I just you know, I mean, just be
Speaker 4: doing mad ship. But I already got the invite you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just got to hit him up when
Speaker 4: I'm there man shout out to hit boy though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, what's up?
Speaker 5: What's Darrener's I think Deren jerieds his own imprint in
Speaker 5: label as far as what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Do you think I agree him? And I've had conversations
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 5: Being in New York and they're not being as many
Speaker 5: artists as it used to be, as opposed to other cities.
Speaker 5: Do you find that same problem the way Darren may have.
Speaker 5: It's like I want to cook with everybody, but I
Speaker 5: don't want to send b packs like I want a
Speaker 5: new shit in person. Being in New York, it's kind
Speaker 5: of tough the last ten years as far as collaborating,
Speaker 5: you know what it is?
Speaker 4: I put it like this, I feel that same thing
Speaker 4: all right in New York it's man artists. But then
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of artists that do this. Ye,
Speaker 4: But then let's say there is, there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of artists that do this that are necessarily like on
Speaker 4: the same level.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, there's a lot of artists that
Speaker 4: is nice that I will work with, that I do
Speaker 4: work with, but they not necessarily as known as me.
Speaker 4: There's not you understand saying, Like, there's not too many
Speaker 4: artists that do what I do that are let's say,
Speaker 4: as known as me, that are from here, and if
Speaker 4: they are, they do a whole different type of shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like most of the niggas
Speaker 4: that do this necessarily ain't from here or they're not
Speaker 4: they don't care to be as visible because they was
Speaker 4: like a nigga like Ransom, but he's he already did this.
Speaker 4: The way he do it now is how he want
Speaker 4: to do it. You understand I'm saying. But I would say,
Speaker 4: there's not really too many artists from here that do this.
Speaker 1: There is, but like.
Speaker 4: I would say, Darren just picky and as he should be. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: like everybody's picky when it comes to art.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You pick and choose who
Speaker 1: you really want to work with.
Speaker 4: But it's not an array of fuckers like let's say Atlanta,
Speaker 4: where it's like Atlanta has like twenty artists that are
Speaker 4: popping on a on a high level where it's like,
Speaker 4: if you was to be a producer and you want
Speaker 4: to go to Atlanta to get your ship off, there's
Speaker 4: mad people you could work with, and it's mad artists
Speaker 4: that you can end up working with. All you gotta
Speaker 4: do is just have a session in this studio right here.
Speaker 4: You're gonna damn there. See everybody, every connected to everybody
Speaker 4: in here, and it's so it's so community based where
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what, you might meet this person
Speaker 4: and then you're just chilling this session.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know what, listen to his beats
Speaker 1: and then you know what I mean, like young thug walking.
Speaker 4: There's no place like that here where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: if you wanted to get your shipped off, you know,
Speaker 4: as a producer, you could just go to this studio
Speaker 4: and you'll see mad artists from New York and then
Speaker 4: you might go there, but Nigga won't say nothing. It's
Speaker 4: not you understand saying I was all go here, say.
Speaker 6: It's like yo, I'm such and something like all right, okay,
Speaker 6: this is man like, you know what I think it is,
Speaker 6: but not for not for this, not for what you do.
Speaker 3: Injured Room kind of feels like that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can go on in Jury Room and
Speaker 2: it'll be you know a little bit, but again, not
Speaker 2: the type of raping shit that you get one.
Speaker 1: Of a comeback every drill.
Speaker 5: I'd probably let me ask you with your talent level,
Speaker 5: I don't think you'd sound weird on that. I think
Speaker 5: you could adapt to that. Not to say, go do
Speaker 5: a sexy drill album, but if you wanted to hop
Speaker 5: on a record with like a cash co man, I
Speaker 5: don't think you'd sound weird on it.
Speaker 1: It could work. Baseline works like that.
Speaker 4: It could work. It could work, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It just depends on how it's done. Like I could
Speaker 4: do some ship like I could rap over them beats
Speaker 4: and could sing the hook, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Or he could have it like it could work. It
Speaker 4: just depends on how to get put on. And I'm
Speaker 4: not opposed to doing it, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Some of the guys that may not have heard this era,
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Speaker 4: Because I'm gonna put it like I'm a highbrid like
Speaker 4: I grew up in Queen, but I lived in Brooklyn
Speaker 4: also too, so that's why I, oh, yeah, you read Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I live in Brooklyn too, ye and fucking long. I
Speaker 1: love that, Elma. It's like the board up Queens.
Speaker 3: You could literally walk across the stream.
Speaker 1: I mean I always been in Queen's much.
Speaker 4: But I would say, like if you're talking about an
Speaker 4: older era or just now, because I feel like a
Speaker 4: lot of this, yeah now, like niggas like Cello, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Star Jella from Queens, that's really
Speaker 4: like putting on that's ill, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like niggas like trap Hefe. I'm saying like, those are
Speaker 1: the niggas that do this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That get busy for me? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's it's been a little while.
Speaker 5: But during that whole Joey Badass first Daylight, then it
Speaker 5: turned into a bunch of New York rappers also hoppened.
Speaker 5: Did you feel any any temptation to hop into that
Speaker 5: back and forth because it turned into somewhat a distant difference.
Speaker 4: The reason why is because just me personally, like, if
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it that type of energy, you gotta
Speaker 4: at least dis me. Yeah, you got, you gotta at
Speaker 4: least throw a missile at me for me to like
Speaker 4: feel like, all right, I'm gonna give it that energy
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, it's like, one, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm from here, but I know a lot of them
Speaker 4: TD niggas, you know what I'm saying. So with me,
Speaker 4: it's like I don't really have no issue with them,
Speaker 4: you understand. Like I go to Cali and I chill
Speaker 4: with them niggas, you know what I'm saying, not even
Speaker 4: on no like trying to I'd be going. I go
Speaker 4: and just hang out with one of my boys who
Speaker 4: don't even make music and Cali and then go be
Speaker 4: here and it just end up picking it, you understand
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it's like, ain't no really no need
Speaker 4: for me to jump in that shit because I didn't
Speaker 4: really take offense to it, you understand I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: like I don't know, like if I'm gonna really go
Speaker 4: back and forth with another rapper I wanted to be
Speaker 4: for real.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to just be because like you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just for the sport.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm saying, for the sport is cool.
Speaker 4: But I just felt like at the time I didn't
Speaker 4: need to really get into it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because that ain't really That wasn't really my whole spiel
Speaker 4: at the particular moment, like I was putting, I was
Speaker 4: trying to make a tape, I was dropping an album
Speaker 4: and ship. If I would have just jumped in that ship,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that shit would have overshadowed every single thing.
Speaker 4: Like not saying that's a bad thing, but it's like
Speaker 4: I feel like niggas held it down, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like niggas held it out like you
Speaker 1: only need to joy.
Speaker 4: And it was just like the fans that rone need
Speaker 4: to get in roll need to get It's like, bro, yeah, niggas,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get in because I want to, not because
Speaker 4: niggas is tweeting me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you undertee what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told I definitely understand and respect that the
Speaker 2: Belt to Ash record hm hm.
Speaker 3: Tough, Yeah you was. I ain't gonna looking at this track.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To find a song that I mean, like like like
Speaker 2: Zip said ninety five Mega on Shrooms Belta ass son
Speaker 2: of a gun, Uh proud in the Polaroid marathonal race
Speaker 2: with West DreamCatcher. Time it plays, I think this story,
Speaker 2: which one is his story that's belt to ass.
Speaker 1: Tough.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it yet because I think you
Speaker 2: know this is too soon. But for me personally, from You,
Speaker 2: this is one of my favorite projects because I think,
Speaker 2: I think, I think from from top to bottom just
Speaker 2: looking at the track, let's looking at the songs. The production,
Speaker 2: your rhymes is always at a at a high level.
Speaker 2: But I think the music on this, it's probably some
Speaker 2: of my favorite music that I've heard room room streets on.
Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna say yet because it was probably
Speaker 2: just came out a few days ago. But this, this
Speaker 2: I could talk into my pocket is definitely from You
Speaker 2: personally one of my favorite projects.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the one we put the most,
Speaker 4: like effort into I put effort into it all, but
Speaker 4: this one, like we really like fine tuned the hell
Speaker 4: out of this, you know what I'm saying, Like remixed it,
Speaker 4: went back in the studio, put this song there, rewrote
Speaker 4: record this song, you know what I mean. Like, so
Speaker 4: this was the one that like I was really like
Speaker 4: I put the most into this, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and I can't.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm picking up from it is
Speaker 2: that it's just it seems like it's just more attention
Speaker 2: to detail. It's more fine tune again, you know, playing
Speaker 2: with different flows on the joint the IDK Like I
Speaker 2: said that that feature to me somebody that I think
Speaker 2: is super ill but never would probably play Shot two together.
Speaker 1: But it works.
Speaker 2: What's next though now for Rome as far as just
Speaker 2: an MC and artist, like what's on your vision board?
Speaker 2: As far as what you want to do moving forward?
Speaker 2: From coming off a SOCKETO my pocket?
Speaker 4: Keep putting outdop music. I'm the type of is that
Speaker 4: I have. I always got more ship, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like I could drop a fucking tape every
Speaker 4: month if I wanted to, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But it's like a lot of this ship just be
Speaker 4: me experiment with different approaches. So it's like now that
Speaker 4: I see how me approaching a project like this can
Speaker 4: affect the listener, Like, okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I never really went this hard putting out putting together
Speaker 4: a project, but it shows once I put the people
Speaker 4: know they loving this ship. Like you said, it's one
Speaker 4: of my best and it is I put the most.
Speaker 4: So I guess, like, all right, all my ship gotta
Speaker 4: be like this from now. But it's like I got
Speaker 4: mad ship already, so I got Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the standard. So it's like at this particular time,
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to grow, keep keep approaching ship like that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like I have other ship.
Speaker 4: You probably gonna here and mean mixtapes and ship that
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna put out that I mean, and
Speaker 4: I ain't going.
Speaker 1: As crazy as I did with this.
Speaker 4: But now every time I put an album out, like
Speaker 4: a real studio album, I'm gonna jump in the bag
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: So that's what's next to me. More videos.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I got a bunch of artists that
Speaker 4: I funk with that I really want to, like what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, showcase put on the forefront, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that too, I want to act, do.
Speaker 4: Movies or sort of as much as I could do.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not trying to go back to running the streets.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, like this is it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was at the Speaks the other day.
Speaker 1: Flicking around like oh yeah, curry over there.
Speaker 4: I'm at Mike Tyson like I gave him that, Like
Speaker 4: it's the same hand't even knocking.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's one person that me and Roy was talking about
Speaker 3: when we had a chance to meet Mike's It's just
Speaker 3: it's and like you know, obviously just me and him.
Speaker 2: It's really no words that could just because everything you
Speaker 2: think Mike Tyson is, he's the exact opposite. Like his personality,
Speaker 2: his energy is aura. It's like you looking like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: that's Mike. But then he's accepting in a room where
Speaker 2: he's like I'm a regular guy, you know what he is?
Speaker 4: Like it just be a crazy thing for me because,
Speaker 4: like I said, bro, like I grew up in this ship,
Speaker 4: Like I grew up watching this ship all day.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, watching.
Speaker 4: Everybody on TV, whether it's fucking Video Music Box was
Speaker 4: Bobby Simmons, whether it's fucking Rap City, whether it's b
Speaker 4: Cat See Cat whatever, you understand saying Queen's Public, all
Speaker 4: that shit, you understand them saying to being like now
Speaker 4: it's like I'm on the other side of the curtain
Speaker 4: and I see like, oh shit, that niggas like this
Speaker 4: shit man regular. But then it's also like, damn, I
Speaker 4: went from watching the ship on the TV to now like,
Speaker 4: motherfucker's seeing me on the TV. You understand. I'm saying
Speaker 4: there's a kid that was just like me looking at
Speaker 4: these rap niggas on TV, like, oh shit, this is hard.
Speaker 4: Now I'm on the TV and kid, like, I got
Speaker 4: promise you. The other day, I went to what's that
Speaker 4: family fest complex? Shit I'm walking through and I met
Speaker 4: a Nigga's like, you probably.
Speaker 1: Don't remember me.
Speaker 4: Like one day we was walking down Merrick. He's like
Speaker 4: I was twelve years old and you was like, yo,
Speaker 4: be a rapper. Watch I'm be lit And he's like
Speaker 4: now I see you. I'm like, damn, I don't even
Speaker 4: remember him. And I'm like, damn it, you look like
Speaker 4: you're like thirty twelve.
Speaker 1: Like I said that, like.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So like just to like be that person now was
Speaker 1: like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: But I'm still like starstruck over the people that I'm
Speaker 4: still meeting, Like, oh wow, I think it's healthy.
Speaker 1: Always be a part of the journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you always gotta you know, like have that
Speaker 2: keep that part of you that was always in awe
Speaker 2: and just loved, you know, the art, the culture, being
Speaker 2: a fan and looking at certain individuals and just appreciating
Speaker 2: what it is that they do. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: as we become a part of the shit, a lot
Speaker 2: of people shed that because now you're on the other
Speaker 2: side of it. But I think in order to really
Speaker 2: be successful in entertainment and music and whatever art it is,
Speaker 2: that you got to keep that that that little thing
Speaker 2: that you had as a kid and just watching it,
Speaker 2: being a fan of it and appreciating the little things,
Speaker 2: like you said, going home watching everything, studying seeing what
Speaker 2: gods was wearing in the videos and things like that.
Speaker 2: I think as an artist you still keep that and
Speaker 2: that helps you create. That helps you, you know, again
Speaker 2: be inspiration to somebody else. Now thats home watching Rome
Speaker 2: Streets on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ill because.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I look at it like I gotta stay like
Speaker 4: enjoying this shit because I remember times like a lot
Speaker 4: of this shit happened for niggas that's like eighteen seventeen,
Speaker 4: Like I remember back then, Like yo, if you don't
Speaker 4: get lit by the time you like twenty five. It's
Speaker 4: old like, Yo, one of my friends like, y'all, I
Speaker 4: promise you, like I know a nigga. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: if I don't get famous before I'm twenty seven, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna kill myself. And then nigga killed himself. Yeah, nigga
Speaker 4: what that nigga was a dope ass rapper. Nigga that nigga,
Speaker 4: y'all promise you all them like all these niggas now
Speaker 4: that you see they all jacked the nigga swag, you
Speaker 4: understand I'm saying, Like, but yeah, I know a nigga
Speaker 4: like that, and if he probably would have way that,
Speaker 4: he'd have been the biggest shit ever damn. But you know,
Speaker 4: like so to be me in my thirties and then
Speaker 4: it's like, oh shit, like I'm just now like yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean even though like I've been you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, in the in the midst of this shit
Speaker 4: for like a couple of years now, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But like I would say, today, I'm the
Speaker 4: most like popular I've been, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I just remember when niggas to be like bro,
Speaker 4: by the time you think if you don't become a
Speaker 4: fucking rapper, nigga, you might as well up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like shit, just start getting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just stay down, stay down.
Speaker 1: So I can't even be mad at it.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the the importance that guys like.
Speaker 2: All the guys that have been doing, you know, the
Speaker 2: things that you're doing as far as you know, just
Speaker 2: the art of it all and the music, how important
Speaker 2: they are to what it is that you do. Guys
Speaker 2: like Rock Marshie and West Side Gun. How important are
Speaker 2: those guys to.
Speaker 1: What it is that you do? Very because like I said,
Speaker 1: them niggas is like the leaders of the culture. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Rock Marcy, he damned there started this ship, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like, and then West Side Gun he
Speaker 4: just took that ship to a different level, Like he
Speaker 4: made that ship mainstream, he made it popular in them,
Speaker 4: like he's the one, He's the trailblazer of this ship.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, it's like.
Speaker 4: That niggas the reason for a lot of this shit
Speaker 4: that's going on, even in mainstream shit. Like you gotta understand,
Speaker 4: like the Griselda shit and all this shit, this shit
Speaker 4: was in a pocket and it was just its own thing.
Speaker 4: It's not like it was like a mainstream like none
Speaker 4: of the fucking big time. Yeah, it was super niche.
Speaker 4: Now it's its own industry to the point where it's like,
Speaker 4: like I remember, the niggas wasn't even getting dipped.
Speaker 1: Like listen, I remember when I was trying to do
Speaker 1: this shit. I was trying to get on blogs.
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying, Like, I was trying to
Speaker 4: do the blog thing, trying to figure out how to
Speaker 4: hell I can't even get a blog post.
Speaker 1: So in the midst of it, I always used to
Speaker 1: see this Griselda shit. Oh Griselda shit.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is this? You get what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And then like, I don't know, I just
Speaker 4: played it one day. I was like, oh, this shit
Speaker 4: fire and then I just and it was on SoundCloud.
Speaker 4: Wasn't this was before it was on streaming. It was
Speaker 4: on but I just let it play, and then I
Speaker 4: start hearing other niggas like, oh shit, who the.
Speaker 1: Fuck is this? Who the fuck is this? That's how
Speaker 1: I heard rock Marcy. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And the thing is I probably heard rock Marsy before,
Speaker 4: but it's like that's when it stood out to me like,
Speaker 4: oh shit.
Speaker 1: Then I started to do research that I.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh, this is a whole thing, but it
Speaker 4: was very small, like you could literally just reach out
Speaker 4: to it, be like yo, and then he'll answer like
Speaker 4: so now today where it's like Conductor Williams. I met
Speaker 4: him in a session with Westside Gun when nobody knowing,
Speaker 4: and then off of a West Side Gun song, he
Speaker 4: got shipped with Drake.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. So it's like, now this
Speaker 1: is not no underground, it's his mainstream shit.
Speaker 5: It's just not.
Speaker 1: The type of music. But guess what these niggas from.
Speaker 4: Up there siphon in an energy swag all that shit
Speaker 4: from here, and then it's not like a far fetched
Speaker 4: thing for someone here to do a song with someone
Speaker 4: over there. So at the end of da nigga like
Speaker 4: Westside gunn bridge the gap from mainstream rap to this.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, because you got niggas like Alchemists
Speaker 1: who always been here.
Speaker 4: Because he got songs with niggas like Kendrick Lamar. He
Speaker 4: got songs with niggas like Roame Street. So it's like this,
Speaker 4: it's the same shit. So niggas like Wes is important
Speaker 4: because he opened the door, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like absolutely, he bridged the gap for a lot of shit.
Speaker 4: And Rock Marcy is important because he was literally like
Speaker 4: one of the first niggas to just make his own shit,
Speaker 4: put it out and be like, Yo, this is what
Speaker 4: it is like buck the industry shit, this is how
Speaker 4: we maneuvering.
Speaker 1: But he's still doing things with niggas that's in the industry.
Speaker 3: I hear that, I hear that.
Speaker 5: We appreciate you coming through. Man, you gotta come by
Speaker 5: more often for sure. You touring this album?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. I got a socker to
Speaker 4: my pocket, tool on the way, socket to my pocket
Speaker 4: like that real socker treat man.
Speaker 1: Yeah real, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: We definitely anytime you want to come back, come kicking
Speaker 2: with us. Man, before you get on the road, I
Speaker 2: definitely want to catch you whenever you're here in the city.
Speaker 2: You gotta pull up to twenty of your shows. I
Speaker 2: don't think I never I've never seen Rome perfore. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I never seen I never seen before. So I gotta
Speaker 2: I gottacket pocket. That's just sound like some South Road
Speaker 2: ship man.
Speaker 1: Yeah down, yeah, sack into my pocket. That ship comes
Speaker 1: from socket to get technical man. That story could get South.
Speaker 2: Yeah, socket to my pocket available now Roan Streets go
Speaker 2: get that.
Speaker 3: I'm that nigga, He's just ginger. But Netflix, get that.
Speaker 1: Scared to that. No Worrian now