WEBVTT - Attorney Gary Friedle Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, I have to start off by saying

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<v Speaker 1>apologies to Ohio, the whole state.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole state.

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<v Speaker 1>You're apologizing to Ohio. I have no idea why. Indy

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<v Speaker 1>has has started a bit and this started like a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago and he has continued it to this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He was singing about it that Ohio is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>place on the on the planet Earth. What And I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, Like as I can't. I've asked him

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<v Speaker 1>so many times, like where does this come from. We

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<v Speaker 1>drove through Ohio with him on our road trip and

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<v Speaker 1>he kept the bit going the whole time and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Indy, we're stopping, We're gonna we have a

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<v Speaker 1>we had a great pic nick and he's no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>awful here.

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<v Speaker 3>So and part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like wants to like say, Indy, you gotta stop this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it, But then the other part of me

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<v Speaker 1>finds it very funny. Yeah, it's like basically the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of our Connecticut bit. And it doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only thing I could think of is

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<v Speaker 1>he somewhere you know, you guys know slender Man and

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<v Speaker 1>Last Siren Head. Okay, Well, somewhere along the way he

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<v Speaker 1>decided that all monsters come from Ohio, like all of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys come from Ohio. And when I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, first of all, those things aren't real, and

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<v Speaker 1>the second of all, like, what does this have to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this particular state?

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't make any sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's just and he's never caved, He's never like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 3>He keeps the.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit, keeps the going. He's committed.

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<v Speaker 3>He's committed.

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<v Speaker 1>So today he was saying that they wear wooden clothes

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, wouldn't let the lastic couches that give you

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<v Speaker 1>a rash, That there's a ninety percent chance of getting

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<v Speaker 1>hit by a car in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>Likes it sounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Like he's making up these statistics as he goes along.

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<v Speaker 6>This doesn't seem like this is Wikipedia or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he says, did you know it's illegal to

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<v Speaker 1>buy cornflakes on Sunday in Ohio?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, look it up, look it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, on one of these like wacky old

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<v Speaker 1>timey law sites, it says it's illegal to buy cornflakes

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday in Columbus. I then continue, I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be true, and I continue to look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't true, but it is listed on a series

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<v Speaker 1>of websites. So he's sharing and gaining information about Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>with other kids and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, like the other kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Who are allowed searching the web.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I'm trying to get out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when are you accent? And when he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to his grandparents' house and I'm like, bo, wait, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a no YouTube rule, and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is safari And I'm like, that's the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's your web browser to search for video, which yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Maybe this is an internet meme

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I don't know about, like.

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<v Speaker 5>The internet is. Because we were just in Ohio and

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<v Speaker 5>it's lovely. Yes, this was the first time in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This year was the first time I've been to Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I have now been to Ohio twice. I drove through

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<v Speaker 1>on our road trip and then we just had an amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Show and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>So and we're going back in December. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>in Columbus, Ohio in December. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean also Skyline Chili is from Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 5>Scinnati is WKRP in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, Aglamsi's Brothers is some of the best ice cream

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever had in my life is.

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<v Speaker 5>From Cincinnati Brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>Aglamsi's Brothers, and you can order it. I've sent it

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<v Speaker 4>to sou before. You can order it and it ships.

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<v Speaker 4>You can get six pints shipped in dry ice.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's the one. They delivered it at the wrong

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<v Speaker 5>time and it was just melted, massive nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lost it a curse. Maybe it.

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<v Speaker 5>Was slender Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Slender Man delivered it.

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<v Speaker 5>Slender Man delivered it. That was the problem. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 5>opened Sue. It was the nicest gift Soe and.

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<v Speaker 6>I love ice cream. Su especially loves ice cream. And

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<v Speaker 6>Daniel's like, we have the best ice cream. We're sending

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<v Speaker 6>it to you, and then we couldn't find it for

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<v Speaker 6>days and ice cream is like not the kind of

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<v Speaker 6>thing you want to lose for days at a time. No,

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<v Speaker 6>And we finally it gets delivered to our porch and

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<v Speaker 6>it was just even.

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<v Speaker 4>Just it was ice cream. It was an ice cream pool,

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<v Speaker 4>a mini ice cream pool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was sad.

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<v Speaker 5>It was because it was like she just wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>eat it. She's like, do you think you think I

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<v Speaker 5>can eat it?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I don't think the pool of nastiness on

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<v Speaker 6>our front porch is something you should.

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<v Speaker 5>Be eating, babe. Sorry, sorry, crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I appreciate Indie's commitment to the bit, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think you need to do a little bit more digging

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<v Speaker 4>about where. I think you need to start tracking search histories.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, I mean I think now he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of disappointed in this spit, and we also

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<v Speaker 1>find it funny, but we're also kind of like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't just trust everything on the internet or listen

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<v Speaker 1>to your friends. I mean, we literally were driving through

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio being like, Indy, what is wrong with And he

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<v Speaker 1>won't he will never.

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<v Speaker 3>Say like, oh it's a joke, Oh it's this. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>he keeps it going.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now, of course, because we keep laughing and

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<v Speaker 1>saying when are you going to stop this?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's ever going to stop.

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<v Speaker 4>For the rest of his life. The rest of his life,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to have a thing about Ohio. Kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, he doesn't even know like that it's a state,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like he'll be like, wait, wait is that

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<v Speaker 1>a city.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, no, no, whole state. Do you know who

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<v Speaker 5>you're making exactly? And least know?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Indy, Well, welcome to Pod meets not Ohio. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Danielle Fischel.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Right or Strong, and I'm will Fordell.

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<v Speaker 4>Today we have a very special guest. In keeping with

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<v Speaker 4>our parents of Boy meets World tradition, Will Fredell has

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<v Speaker 4>somebody to introduce us to.

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<v Speaker 6>I do all right, So here we go. So we're

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<v Speaker 6>all doing our own intros. I'm back here in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 4>In your childhood bedroom, in my childhood.

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<v Speaker 6>Bedroom, which makes it for RO ninety two sticker the

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<v Speaker 6>craziest perh ninety two. Of course, I got all my stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>So here we go. I'm going to try to get

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<v Speaker 6>through this. Okay, as I once again sit here in

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<v Speaker 6>my childhood bedroom in Connecticut, surrounded by the same posters, hats,

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<v Speaker 6>and hockey sticks that have hung on my wall since

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<v Speaker 6>I was a kid, I've racked my brain to come

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<v Speaker 6>up with the perfect way to begin this introduction. I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to start with a quote about parents. I tried

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<v Speaker 6>to channel my best right or Strong and search for

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<v Speaker 6>something by Shakespeare or Chaucer. I looked for words from

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<v Speaker 6>Nietzsche or maybe even whoever the hell David Hume is. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a Podmeats World Live joke, and if you'd like

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<v Speaker 6>to hear more obscure Scottish philosopher jokes, go to Podmeats

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<v Speaker 6>Worldshow dot com for all of our upcoming tour dates.

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<v Speaker 6>At the end of the day, the quote that I

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<v Speaker 6>thought summed it up better for me than any of

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<v Speaker 6>the others was said by legendary basketball player Kobe Bryant,

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<v Speaker 6>who said, quite simply, my parents are my backbone, still are.

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<v Speaker 6>They're the only group that will support you if you

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<v Speaker 6>score zero or you score forty. Thanks Kobe, and may

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<v Speaker 6>you rest in peace. This was the perfect quote for me,

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<v Speaker 6>because as amazing as you all are, dear listeners, I

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<v Speaker 6>will never have fans that are more proud, dedicated, or

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<v Speaker 6>supportive of me as my parents.

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<v Speaker 5>The three of us all feel that way about our parents.

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<v Speaker 6>We as listeners, loved hearing about how Jennifer Fishel would

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<v Speaker 6>stay up until all hours of the night, crimping young

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<v Speaker 6>Danielle's hair while running lines with her so she could

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<v Speaker 6>walk onto the set the next morning ready to be

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<v Speaker 6>that wonderfully weird and nurturing girl that was Topanga we

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<v Speaker 6>were amazed when Lenny king Strong told us they didn't

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<v Speaker 6>know where Ryder got his talent, then spent the next

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<v Speaker 6>twenty minutes talking about all the movies that they would

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<v Speaker 6>star in and shoot at redwood Shire, dressing up in

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<v Speaker 6>funny costumes so their two young boys could run around

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<v Speaker 6>the majestic Redwoods pretending to be heroes, villains, monsters or magicians. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>now it's my turn, and thus we will learn the

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<v Speaker 6>origin story of super fil Free, or more accurately, about

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<v Speaker 6>the two people whose absolute and unwavering love helped to

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<v Speaker 6>turn me into the man I am today. Unfortunately, my mother,

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<v Speaker 6>Patricia's under the weather and won't be able to join us,

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<v Speaker 6>but she did ask me to relay a message to

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<v Speaker 6>all of you listening. Tell him I'm gorgeous and incredibly smart.

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<v Speaker 6>She said it with the same dry witch she's always had.

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<v Speaker 6>But she's right, she is gorgeous and incredibly smart. She

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<v Speaker 6>went to Simmons College in Yukon undergrad and then Yukon Law, where,

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<v Speaker 6>in a starting class of eighty one, she was one

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<v Speaker 6>of only three women still left standing when by the

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<v Speaker 6>end of the course half of the class had dropped out.

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<v Speaker 6>She immediately went to work for the court and eventually

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<v Speaker 6>rose to the rank of Executive Assistant to the Chief

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<v Speaker 6>Justice of the Supreme Court, and was then promoted to

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<v Speaker 6>Chief Administrative Officer for the Supreme and Appellate Courts in

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<v Speaker 6>the state of Connecticut. When she finally retired, she wrote

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<v Speaker 6>and published three historical fiction ya novels with her sister,

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<v Speaker 6>my aunt Janette, about a circle of young friends who

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<v Speaker 6>find themselves pivotal to the events around the birth of

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<v Speaker 6>our nation, and did all this while raising three sons

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<v Speaker 6>and a husband and being there for us whenever we

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<v Speaker 6>needed her. So representing the Frudell parents today will be

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<v Speaker 6>my father Gary. Though few call him that, most call

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<v Speaker 6>him Attorney Fredell or Captain. I will say that he

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<v Speaker 6>is the perfect person to represent my parents because of

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<v Speaker 6>how much he loves people and loves to talk. When

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<v Speaker 6>I asked him to do this, my mom said he

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<v Speaker 6>would be wonderful. But she hopes we're doing forty episodes

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<v Speaker 6>with him so he can tell all the stories that

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<v Speaker 6>he wants to. Born in nineteen thirty nine in Flushing,

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<v Speaker 6>New York, he spent his early years on Long Island,

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<v Speaker 6>where Gary Fridell is only the second person I've ever

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<v Speaker 6>met my life other than my beautiful wife, Susan, who.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely loved high school.

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<v Speaker 6>He was the class president, played soccer, and generally was

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<v Speaker 6>the popular kid in college, first at Saint Lawrence, then

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<v Speaker 6>at Colgate. He found his first found the first love

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<v Speaker 6>of his life, the military, and joined the Army ROTC.

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<v Speaker 6>When he transferred to Colgate, he was cruited by the

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<v Speaker 6>Air Force and switched briefly to Air Force ROTC. After college,

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<v Speaker 6>he was accepted at Yukon Law School, where he met

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<v Speaker 6>the true love of his life, my mom, Patricia, and

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<v Speaker 6>his military dreams were briefly put on hold while he

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<v Speaker 6>finished law school, got married and started a private practice

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<v Speaker 6>in New Britain, Connecticut. Once he'd established himself as a husband, father,

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<v Speaker 6>and lawyer, the military once again came calling, and he

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<v Speaker 6>was recruited by the Judge Advocate General or JAG Corps

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<v Speaker 6>in the United States Navy Reserve. You know that show

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<v Speaker 6>JAG where the guy's lawyer but also runs around flying planes,

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<v Speaker 6>shooting guns and saving people. Yeah, my dad didn't do

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<v Speaker 6>any of that, except for the saving people part that

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<v Speaker 6>he did all the time. Legally speaking, of course, as

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<v Speaker 6>a young boy, I spent many a weekend running around

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<v Speaker 6>the submarine base at Groton, Connecticut, all the time marveling

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<v Speaker 6>that people were saluting my father everywhere he walked. When

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<v Speaker 6>I were to remark about how cool that was, he

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<v Speaker 6>was always the first to remind me that they weren't

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<v Speaker 6>saluting him but the rank. It was never about him

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<v Speaker 6>but the country. He served during the First Golf War.

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<v Speaker 6>He was sent to Italy to help with the legal

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<v Speaker 6>aspects of the war, and eventually retired to captain the

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<v Speaker 6>Navy after thirty years of service. The Navy, though, is

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<v Speaker 6>the only thing he's retired from. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty four would be my parents' sixtieth wedding anniversary,

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<v Speaker 6>as well as the sixtieth anniversary of him as a practicing.

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<v Speaker 5>Lawyer at the age of eighty four.

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<v Speaker 6>He still goes to work every day, seize his clients,

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<v Speaker 6>and takes new cases.

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<v Speaker 5>He is, to say the least, a tough act to follow.

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<v Speaker 6>Like my mother, He's managed to walk and blaze an

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<v Speaker 6>incredible trail all while being the best and most engage

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<v Speaker 6>parents my brothers and I could ever have hoped for.

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<v Speaker 6>I often tell people that I was blessed before I

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<v Speaker 6>was ever born and all the rest is just a

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<v Speaker 6>wonderful bonus with no insult intended to my mother. My

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<v Speaker 6>father is, with no shadow of doubt, my biggest fan

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<v Speaker 6>to this day. I can't go anywhere with him without

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<v Speaker 6>him asking everyone who meets whether they've seen Boy Meets World,

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<v Speaker 6>my date with the President's daughter, or if they listen

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<v Speaker 6>to this podcast. Some call him Gary, most call him Attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>I call him simply pop. So, dear listeners, with no

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<v Speaker 6>further guilding of the lily, nor any more ado, I

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<v Speaker 6>give you my father, Gary Furdell.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I've got to text him, come up.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, How you doing, Captain?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, good to see you again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to see you guys too, And will say

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming to Connecticut next year. Be sure you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>all of you again.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we're excited to go back to Connecticut and

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<v Speaker 4>see all the things. Will speak so highly of.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's an on, running, on running joke between these two

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<v Speaker 6>here that Connecticut is Yes, now you've got to face

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<v Speaker 6>the piper.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dare you?

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<v Speaker 6>That Connecticut is a little backwards, and that we tend

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<v Speaker 6>to ride ride horses and buggies and churn on and

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<v Speaker 6>butter and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, stuck in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I we did. We did say that there was

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<v Speaker 4>once a breaking news report that there were four cows

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<v Speaker 4>on the highway. Do you remember that, Will?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>And it was true, wasn't it. That was actually a

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<v Speaker 5>breaking news report in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, four Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, there were four cows loose on the highways, breaking news.

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<v Speaker 5>Breaking news, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because that's kind of unusual to have four

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<v Speaker 2>cows on the highway.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's usually only two. With four cows, you can

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<v Speaker 6>use the express lane, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to start with a very hard hitting question.

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<v Speaker 4>Do people often call you Attorney Gary Friedel?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah, the the very few people ever pronounced the

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<v Speaker 2>name correctly, and it's stale mole because how do you

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<v Speaker 2>get tell out of dlle right?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So yes's that happens more often than not.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, half of our family are the Freedles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean the family reunion in our Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Friedel.

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<v Speaker 4>Who what really if your family says it freed that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's true. The brothers divided on how to pronounce

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<v Speaker 2>the name and when we had our first family reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>I was twenty eight years old and was introduced to

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<v Speaker 2>my cousin and I said, oh, Bruce Gary Fredell, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Friedel, and I just kind of stared at him,

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<v Speaker 2>and half of them pronounced the name Friedel and the

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<v Speaker 2>other half.

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<v Speaker 1>Is So you could have at that moment just decided

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<v Speaker 1>to change the pronunciation, right. It made it easier for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>just gone.

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<v Speaker 2>With, I don't like Freedel. Isn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 1>You get hooked on your own. Yes, this is in

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's family. They're the Burrettos, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Retto's in the world, but they all spell it differently,

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes it's two rs to teas, two rs and

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<v Speaker 1>to Te's and it's a huge debate, like, and everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>stuck on the way they spell it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, we're the Fredell's. They're the Freedoles in your family,

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<v Speaker 6>in the same family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Captain, what was raising a young Wilfredell like? Was

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<v Speaker 4>he always this naturally funny?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, truthfully, even from when he was very very young,

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<v Speaker 2>he has the ability to make people laugh. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was a very easy child to raise. Actually very well tempered,

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<v Speaker 2>good demeanor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think maybe it's because at eleven years old

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<v Speaker 4>he decided he was just going to wander the streets

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<v Speaker 4>of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that. Of course, we found it out later that

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't always accompanied as at the bus stop, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to, and he didn't tell us that because

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<v Speaker 2>the arrangement was very clear. The bus driver watched him,

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<v Speaker 2>he would get off the bush what was the name

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<v Speaker 2>of that place, port authority, port authority, and the agent

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<v Speaker 2>would meet him as he stepped off the bus. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the plan, and it always go that way. I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't know how the percentage of how it was.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say it was it was probably seventy percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the time he met me at the bus or

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<v Speaker 6>somebody from the agency.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's okay, yeah, And so this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Your acting agent that you have that's in New York, right, correct?

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get that agent in the first place?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you guys get Will into all of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually he had a third grade teacher who had a

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<v Speaker 2>contact at the Hartford stage and apparently said to the contact, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this this cute little kid in my class, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're ever doing a play involving children, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to consider him. And then they were going to do

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<v Speaker 2>Ibsen's a Dollhouse. And we got a call and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember it because it was one of the weekends that

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<v Speaker 2>I was supposed to go away with the Navy on

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<v Speaker 2>a slow the flag cruise up the coast, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go to this thing. And we go and is

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<v Speaker 2>what we now know, of course, was a cattle call.

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<v Speaker 2>We walked in and there were eight million kids there

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<v Speaker 2>and laughing and running around. He said, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he goes and he comes out, he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this was fun. We left and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the next day or a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>thereafter we had got a call that they had selected

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<v Speaker 2>him as to be one of the three kids in

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<v Speaker 2>the play, and of course we were dumbfounded and watched.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he went into the auditions, and his mother and

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the first night, were soaking wet as

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting there watching and with sweat. He comes out

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<v Speaker 2>as if he's sitting in our living room with Mary McDonald.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh and David Aaron, Mary McDonald, Jerry Bamman. It was

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<v Speaker 6>Mark Lamos was the artistic director, but actually acted in

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<v Speaker 6>the play as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it was one of those.

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<v Speaker 6>And I still to this day have never seen the

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<v Speaker 6>end because if I had to be home before, so

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<v Speaker 6>I left halfway through the play and never got to

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<v Speaker 6>see how it ended. It's ibsen, though I've always said,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure it ended well and it was happy and

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<v Speaker 6>it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was That was it? And then how did

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<v Speaker 5>how did we get from there to meet to finding

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<v Speaker 5>the places in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>He debug bit him, and he made it very clear, repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 2>very clear, I want to go into acting. Sure, sure, honey, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>And I placated him for some period of time, and

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<v Speaker 2>as it turned out, he never gave up to his credit.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the guys working in my law firm,

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<v Speaker 2>he was our billing clerk, I think, was an amateur thespian,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, I know an agent in New York

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested. Another client, slash Navy colleague, was a photographer,

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<v Speaker 2>a Navy photographer. He did his first head shots. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was August of nineteen eighty eight when

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<v Speaker 2>we sent down the pictures and I said, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>I've sent everything down. There's nothing more. Dad can do

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<v Speaker 2>at this point nothing. Six or seven months later, as

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<v Speaker 2>normally I was in the office late, the phone rings

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, mister Ferdell, yes, mister Goles Goal from

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<v Speaker 2>New York. I drew a blank. He could tell it

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<v Speaker 2>because like, who is this go start talent? Oh, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at the headshots now and we really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're interested. We'd like to see them. And I thought, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we made arrangements to go down there. We walk in

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a room that's tiny, little place run by

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<v Speaker 2>the man and his son. Yep. So they come out

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<v Speaker 2>and they get him and I hear laughing and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>The kid walks out. They say, a kid the sun

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<v Speaker 2>was probably twenty twenty one years old, comes out and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, we want them. And I said, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Now my immediate thought, I will tell you bluntly is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here it comes and I said, and what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want is fees? Miss? Oh no, we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any fees. We work solely on commission. I should fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We signed up. Within ninety days, he got a CBS

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<v Speaker 2>commercial for kids. Then he went on to Skittles and

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<v Speaker 2>Nico nickelode and then he was on this don't just

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<v Speaker 2>sit there program and it just escalated from there. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was I think he wore a pumpkin or something.

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<v Speaker 2>In the third grader, you were just some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>play and that's where the teacher.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I was the first. I was the first

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<v Speaker 6>performance I did for third grade. It was the one

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<v Speaker 6>that Indy did. We were both the scarecrow in Wizard

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<v Speaker 6>of Oz. And then we did a play called Kids,

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<v Speaker 6>which was a musical in the fourth grade. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>when I realized I couldn't sing, so I dropped the

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<v Speaker 6>singing part and was just acting from there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it was. It was a whirlwind. It happened very quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>And you guys, I mean you saw the Kids and

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<v Speaker 6>Guns commercial, the first one I did.

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<v Speaker 5>You saw my lean acting. You saw you stood out,

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<v Speaker 5>a real natural nice I stood well, I stood crook

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<v Speaker 5>it out. So yes, it was we saw where I

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<v Speaker 5>was going right away with that lean acting.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to go back really briefly. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that you have three sons. One is involved investment banking,

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<v Speaker 4>the other followed your footsteps into law. And then there's

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<v Speaker 4>Will the consummate entertainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he did, and you're talking about Greg. Greg became

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<v Speaker 2>a paralegal, but he's also a filmmaker. He made the

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<v Speaker 2>film Fake that he wrote and directed and one awards

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<v Speaker 2>for that, and then the next year he directed another

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<v Speaker 2>film in Bridgeport, Connecticut that won first prize in the

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<v Speaker 2>Manhattan Film Festival the following year.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, where do you think their artistic side came from?

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<v Speaker 5>Not from me, are you kidding? Of course, it's from you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's from you and Pop.

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<v Speaker 6>So my grandfather, Pop, he was the first person who

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<v Speaker 6>ever did character.

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<v Speaker 5>Voices for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he would.

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<v Speaker 6>He would put me into bed at night and he

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<v Speaker 6>would do cartoon voices. And then my dad, who says

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<v Speaker 6>he's not an entertainer, would stand up in front of

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<v Speaker 6>a jury and he would entertain and you would. So

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<v Speaker 6>everywhere we were, there's times he reminded me of Bill

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<v Speaker 6>Daniels and that when Bill said to us, an entertainer

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<v Speaker 6>entertains wherever they are. If you want to act, you act.

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<v Speaker 6>That was my dad, and my dad would do it

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<v Speaker 6>to embarrass us a lot of times. But so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember one time in the midd We're at an

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<v Speaker 6>ice cream shop, you know, an ice cream shop in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm probably seven or eight, and so my brothers

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<v Speaker 6>are teenage years, the prime prime time to be embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's a whole group of young kids around, young

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 6>girls around, and so my dad starts moonwalking through them

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 6>while pointing at my brothers and be in the cool guy.

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that was my dad.

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 6>So he says, he doesn't know where I got my entertainment,

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 6>but I think you, had you gone a different route

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 6>in your life, there's a very real possibility you could

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 6>have been an entertainer.

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean I do like I did

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 2>enjoy court room work and acting before, you know, with

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>jury presenting ideas and things like that.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 5>So maybe that's what I would say.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things that we have tried to

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 4>disagree about with Will about his own life. But I

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're the perfect person to answer this. I'm

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 4>going to consider you the expert. Will claims no girls

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 4>liked him before he became famous, and we just find

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 4>that very hard to believe because he was always a

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 4>very good looking, charismatic kid. Did Will have girlfriends before

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 4>he became famous?

0:24:55.000 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, friends is not really he had. I don't think

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>he dated a lot. He's often says that that I

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>wasn't aware that they didn't like him, but he really

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a girlfriend per se.

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 4>All Right, I mean, I guess you believe me yet,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean I guess so. I did say I was

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 4>going to consider your dad to be the expert.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But were you ever now so once the agents were

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>calling and signing up, were you ever worried about what

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry might might do to young Will?

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Extremely so. We yeah had a lot of misgivings.

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, one of the things that

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>we said when he started getting interested in it was Okay,

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you can go to New York one day a week.

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>We are not going to become stage parents. My wife

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.719
<v Speaker 2>went down a few times with him and said every

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 2>single afternoon this people would be there. They'd come in

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 2>from Pennsylvania for the auditions with their kids, five days

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>a week. We said, we're not going to do that.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>You can go once a week. Also, the most important

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 2>thing is we told him the minute you stop liking this, quit,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't care at what stage you are. Life is

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:30.239
<v Speaker 2>too sure. And with that in mind, we really did

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>hold to it. With one interesting exception. I can remember.

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>It was a show called True Blue and Christopher Mitcham,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Bob Mitcham's son was starring in it, and they needed

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>a kid of Will's age. And the phone rang. It

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>was like a He'd already been to the city that week,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and it was the second phone call. I said, mister gold,

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you know the rule. He said, Listen, they called. They

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>really need somebody. I think he's got a real shot

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>at getting this role. And it's an NBC national television program. Okay, Will,

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to New York. Well, he actually

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 2>starts crying, I'm tired, Daddy, I don't want to go

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to New York again. Okay, here's what we'll do. I'm

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>going to put your blanket and the pillow in the

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>back seat of the car and we will drive you

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to the city and you can sleep. Oh okay, So

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>we do that. We get about twenty minutes outside of

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>New York City and I say, will you better read

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 2>the script? Now you have a looked at it. So

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 2>it comes into the front seat, which, of course today

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>you get arrested for doing.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. You climb from the back seat into the.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Fuse literally paging through and I'm kind of glancing peripherally saying,

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. So he closes it. Did you learn

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 2>your lines? I memorized everybody's lines, Dad, I said what

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>he had. He had memorized the entire script that he read.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>So we go down for the interview. He gets it,

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and that was also interesting because he's a kid. We

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>go on the set, it's like seven point thirty in

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the morning, and about seven o'clock at night, they come

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to us and say, oh, an hour or so, we're

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>going to get to you. And I said, no, you're not.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>You've already violated New York state law. You are holding

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a child more than beyond the allowable time. We are leaving.

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't leave, I said, we are leaving. You have

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a choice. You can put us up at a hotel

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and we'll be back tomorrow, or we're going home. Well,

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>of course, they put us up at a suite in

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the Mayflower. So the next and then we go back

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and one of the guys comes over and he says, wow, congratulation.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever does that. He said, they call these kids

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>here all the time. You're the first parent that's ever

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>spoken up.

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 3>That's great. Good for you.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then the same show he's supposed to roll

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>off a cliff and be caught by somebody down eight

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>or nine feet. Is that okay with you, mister Fradell,

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, absolutely not. That's what you have doubles for.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>So a double did it. But it was we had

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>some interesting experiences. I mean, there's a big I remember this,

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the big, heavy, big guy. They sent over the big

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>gun to say, you've got to stay here. I said, no, no, no,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>familiar with the law, We're not staying here. And that's

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>scared of them enough so that we left. But this

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was just oh another time. I'm getting ready for a trial.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.959
<v Speaker 2>It's like a two day afternoon and the phone rings.

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>They want Will in Los Angeles on Thursday. I said,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>mister gold, I'm starting a trial. I don't know that

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I can do it. I said, let me get back

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to you. So I called the other lawyer explain to oh, god,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>that's great, Gary, go for it. So I get on

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the phone with a judge. Tell the judge, Oh, that's fantastic, Yeah,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>go ahead, we'll continue the trial. So the next day

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>we're on the plane to Los Angeles and that I

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think that was the time you got it.

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 6>No, that was the that was I think almost home.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 6>That was when we first met Jason. Remember the first

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 6>time we met Jason. Because you got to meet Perry

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 6>King from Riptide.

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Is because you auditioned for this role.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 5>Corraow.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Course I couldn't help. But when I saw some of

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>these people I recognized from television, I would want to

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 2>talk to him. Dad, don't do that, you know. And

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember this the Riptide guy. I said, I so

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed your show, and he said, we started. He started

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>telling us all about it. You know, the days were

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>fourteen sixteen hours long and we but we really enjoyed it.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all these people, Richard Pryor at the Big

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Boy in Burbank. Oh, don't say anything to him, Dad,

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 2>mister Pryor, I just want to thank you for so

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>many years of pleasure and entertainment. Oh, thank you so much.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>He got up and shook my hand. I mean another one.

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>It's mister Daniels, mister Feenie, who was one of my favorites.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>He'd walk up to me, mister Fredell, it's so nice

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>to see you again.

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Will reminds me so much of myself when I was

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>his age. And I said, mister Daniels, thank you so much,

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>You've done so much for my son, and you know.

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Then he would smile and we chat for five minutes

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and he turn and retreat to his dressing room. Yeah,

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of fun experiences. When you guys

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>were doing a show, My wife and I would usually

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>try to out for the opening show and the closing one.

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, good. Yeah.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>One of them, if you remember, was a scene where

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you guys were sitting around at least Will was at

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the table and they were gambling something like that, and

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>he was eating pretzels.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's the episode we just saw.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>We just watched it.

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they cut and a group of girls in the

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>audience cried out, Will, we love how you chew? He

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>heard it. He spits out the pretzels that he's chewing.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>His mother and I are hysterical. We're just seeing there,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>we love how you chew.

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 4>From being a big old ugo who nobody liked as

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 4>a kid to all of a sudden can't even choot

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 4>pretzels without being fond over.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't even mean who knows what that means?

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>We love? I forgot about that. And then the one

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>another one when the scene when he's sitting on the

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>couch and his father, Rusty comes out. The first take

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>is Eric, get your ass off the couch and go

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 2>get a job. I said to my wife, Jacobs will

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>never let that go. Second take, Eric, get your butt

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>off the couch and go. I said to r He's

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 2>not gonna like that either. Third take, Eric, get off

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that couch and go get a job. And that gave

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>us getting back to one of your earlier questions. When

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>we first met with Jacobs, he assured us you do

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>not have to worry about anything that is going to

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>take place on this set. And I have to admit

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>everything we saw, I had more people come in and

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 2>say to me, you know, we could sit there with

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 2>our children, our daughters, our sons, seven eight nine year

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 2>old kids that never have to worry about what we

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>were going to see, which doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, and

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it was. It was a refreshing thing to watch

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 2>a truly well done family show. But and I admit

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I would never prejudice at all. It was completely unbind.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Of course, so as Will would start booking more and

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 4>more jobs, were you looking at every single one of

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 4>his contracts for him?

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Of course? Still does I still do? Yep, yes, we

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 2>just put part I think it's called Middle Part Productions.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 4>You're absolutely right. We've got our own little production company that.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 5>There still does. Look at everything that I do.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 6>I get again, when you've got a brother in finance

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 6>and two parents that are lawyers, you are set up

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 6>for a nice base when you're going into the acting industry,

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 6>that's for sure.

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Well Will also mentioned that you once called Michael Jacobs

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 4>because you were concerned his role was going to be dwindling.

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 4>What do you remember about that conversation and do you

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 4>remember the circumstance? What what made you concerned?

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I I think I call the agent, not Jacobs.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you guys remember the trio that came

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>on in I think the second season. Yeah, I found

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 2>them very interested and no in a good way, A

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 2>feeling a bad feeling that they could very well eclipse

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>somebody like the older brother in this series. And what

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw, we wait, I waited a while, was a

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>couple times he was on camera for ten seconds for

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, you know, zoom in for a family shot.

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 2>So I called the agent, I said, what's going on here?

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I said, he was almost not on for most of

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>this The last three shows and they looked into it.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Whether I don't know what happened. Unfortunately, I had this

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>feeling that he could overpower Will's a character. Yeah, but

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 6>This is again I did not hear about this until

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 6>years later. Where I called the guy was like, you

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 6>actually called my agent? Yes, because you did you know

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 6>the episode? He told me that that was the final

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 6>straw was It's the one where Corey's making the video

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 6>and Eric finally it says like you know, I'm the

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm the guy for you and I'm I you know,

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 6>he's being interviewed. He's later gals on the couch and

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 6>that was the only I had like three lines in

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 6>the episode.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 5>And that was the final straw for my dad.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 6>So from from not being a stage parent to picking

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 6>up the phone and calling my agent like that.

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, certainly an interesting transition.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Well there's one other one that that Will might remember,

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and this one still shakes me up. I was homesick

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>and it was before well before boy the phone rings

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's the agent. There's an opening I think he

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>can go on saved by the bill, which I said,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>what's saved by the bell. It's it's blah blah blah program,

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>a national program. Yes, but I don't recommend it. Why

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and I don't I don't specifically recall his reason.

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh I do. It was the money.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Money.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 5>It was that it was money.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the money was so low that you got now

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 6>again I did. I was not privy to any of this.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 6>The money was so low that it would actually have

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 6>cost me money to.

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.919
<v Speaker 5>Live in La to do. It was paid by the Bell,

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 5>the New Class.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they weren't on a network, right, they were. They

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>were like an independent studio. I just remember because they

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>figured out some way that it was it was an

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>after contract.

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 3>It was not a sad contract. I think.

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Really there was a different unions and they somehow managed

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>because it was like children's programing or.

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Something, Saturday morning program Saturday mornings.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>They paid so much less than like a network television show.

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But then they it was still a nationally aired show,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so it was like you'd get the exposure. But yeah,

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>there was not as much money. And say about the Bell,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember that well.

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>But what concerns me was saying no. And of course

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I said no without consulting him, and I'm thinking, wow,

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>what if I'm wrong? But the agent had said, no,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I really feel he's going to get something, and I

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>thought memory serves me correctly. It's less than two months

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>later when the call came for Boy and we flew out.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 6>I was pissed, though, when you finally told me, I

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 6>was pissed because it was saved by the Bell the

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 6>New Class. I was a saved by the Bell fan.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 6>You know obviously big James Vanderbeek guy always have been.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Course, we love James Vanderbeek.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 6>Saved by the Bell and so he.

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 5>When they finally told me and you, I remember you.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 6>I think probably wanted to keep it a secret for me,

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 6>but you are very bad at keeping secrets, and you

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 6>felt guilty. So you, you and Steve sat me down.

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 6>My who's my agent? Sat me down and told me

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 6>we turned down saved by the Bell the New Class,

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 6>And I what it was.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 5>All I wanted to be was on a sitcom. I

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 5>was a huge saved by the Bell fan. How could

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 5>you do this? And then like two months later I

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 5>got Boy? Yeah?

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So wow?

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 4>And had you been on Saved by the Bell the

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 4>New Class, you wouldn't have been available for Boy Me's world.

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Just so, our dear listeners, understand that he would have

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 4>been contractually obligated to save by the Bell the New Class,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 4>and you wouldn't have even been able to audition for Boy.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 5>Correct and the Bell.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>The New Class did not last long, right, that was

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think two seasons, Max.

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Saved by the Bell. The New Class only went

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 5>a season or two.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 4>I think, I yeah, wow, Well, there's no doubt that

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 4>was the right decision. But at the time, I can

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 4>see why you would have been upset.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well it was scared because I said, what

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 2>if I made the right decision, I'm talking about his career.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>This is a national program. But then again, this is

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 2>what we had an agent for. And I do believe

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>in listening to the professionals, you know, because what you

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>have them for. Right, he felt very confident. I don't

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 2>really feel you should accept this, But he wouldn't have

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>if we said, yes, oh yeah, if you.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Left it up to him.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yep.

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about your you know, fears that he

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>was going to get written off the show.

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, clearly that did not happen. In fact, the opposite happened.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Will became sort of a show unto himself with enjoy

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Mitsworld What was that like for you to see as

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the show went on and his part get bigger and bigger,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, frankly, he got funnier too. As an actor,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>he got better and better. How was that for you?

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, you all did the show. The

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>show got better, You all got better if you watched

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>from the viewpoint of an adult, and then particularly from

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a family member of one of you. Guys, We just

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>watched as you all developed, and the show just got

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 2>better and better and better. And yeah, I was very

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>proud because I had, whether they mentioned or not, I

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>can't tell you the number of clients I had come

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>into my office and said, we watched that program because

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 2>of your son, Funny And yeah, I mean you guys,

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I said a long time ago. And Will disagree with me.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, you have created a cult. You wait and see. No, Dad, No,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. The people who have come in and

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>talked to me about it, did you. This is a

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>cult in the making. And I think I've turned out

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 2>to be right.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 4>It is you were, but a wonderful cult.

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the good the good kind, the good kind. Yeah,

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 5>good healthy family what.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 4>This healthy family cult? Exactly? So Will is living let's

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 4>say Will gets the Boy meets World. He's living alone

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 4>in Los Angeles, working on Friday nights. Were you all

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 4>the Fredell family sitting down together to watch every episode?

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Of course? And even more than that, his mother would

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 2>pick the phone up as soon as the episode would

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>finish and call on them and say, honey, that was

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>so great. And I said, you know, this is filmed

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. I know, but she would religiously call him

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>after every single episode.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that is so nice.

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Will.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Were you also watching in your apartment in La Do

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you watch it?

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 5>That's the last time I saw again.

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 6>I was never the guy to go to clubs or

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 6>bars or any of that stuff.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.280
<v Speaker 4>So far, no girlfriends, no girlfriends.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 5>A little later I had go around, okay, okay, watch

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 5>it with my girlfriends. That's the five part. Sit there

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 5>and you know, watch boys.

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 6>So yes, I saw every episode when it aired, and

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 6>that was the last time.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 4>And then you'd count down to the phone ringing, and

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 4>you knew it'd be.

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 6>Your mom and dad, My mom would my mom would

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 6>be calling me right after the show was done.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 5>Yep, every week.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 4>So what did you guys think? When then he started

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 4>a relationship with Jennifer Love Hewitt.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>We first of all, we didn't know too much about

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>her because she was on this swa Party of five

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, which we never watched. We knew

0:43:55.080 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>her name, but she seemed very nice. I mean she

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>was I think seventeen and he was nineteen, and she

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>couple times called during the week to speak to my wife,

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 2>just to say hello and how a thing was going.

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 6>He did, Yeah, I don't think.

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I was like she was.

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Said. One time we started watching the program. We felt

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>we had to, so we watched the program and one

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes, she's kissing another boy. Sold I said, love,

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 2>you were kissing another boy on the screen. All mister

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Fredell said, that's just part of playing and the other

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 2>acting or something like that. But she was, she was

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 2>very nice.

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 5>She was.

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 2>She did come to stay around I think it was

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the holidays, and they stayed up the road. She had

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 2>her mother and visited with us for about a week.

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 2>But she was always, I have to say, very very pleasant,

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>very sweet, very nice. She was.

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 5>She was a very sweet girl.

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Yep, you guys are such a cute family. She came

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 4>with her mom and they stayed up the street. You

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 4>guys had the two families together for the holidays. Yes,

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 4>it's so cute.

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 6>Well, my parents had a very very strict rule in

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 6>our house where unless you were married, you did not

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 6>share a room. So even when my brother and sister

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 6>in law were engaged, they were not allowed to share

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:29.720
<v Speaker 6>a room under right.

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Because you could just get engaged just to sleep in

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 4>the same room.

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 2>And then.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 6>You know, of course, also assumed that the second the

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 6>lights went out, everyone wasn't changing rooms.

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Which we found that they did.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 6>Of course, we found that they found that out later,

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 6>but at the time we all stayed in our proper rooms.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Do you think Will and Eric have any similarities?

0:45:53.239 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Certainly not intellectually. We'll tell you. I was bothered by

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they made him appear stupid with things

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 2>like going to Yali and ridiculous things like that. That

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>part I didn't want.

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 5>I ad lived that. I just.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Know that that part of his his character was inconsistent

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>with the Will we knew. And of course as the

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>show developed, you saw that it really wasn't the true

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Will that underneath and he was quite smart and he

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.919
<v Speaker 2>knew what was going on. So I think that too

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 2>developed over the seventy years of the show. That that,

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>but I do think that some of the stuff, of course,

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>was comedic when he was supposedly campaigning for an office.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And I still have said to him Eric for governor

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of California. I think he should run. I think he

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 2>could win.

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 4>What is your favorite project Will has done professionally.

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I've never really thought of that.

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we liked By Date with the President's Daughter.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wasn't crazy about Trojan War.

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, too many sex hijinks going on.

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean other than the show. I mean, obviously

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>our favorite was Boy Meus World. I mean that was,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, an amazing performance by all of you guys.

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 2>So it would be that and probably My Day.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I can tell you for answering for my mom.

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 6>Other than Boy, which is their number one, My mom

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 6>loved h Double Hockey Stick, Yes, okay, he was a

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 6>big fan of H Double Hockey Sticks with myself and

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 6>Matti Lawrence, so she was a fan of that. My

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.399
<v Speaker 6>dad liked My Day with the President's Daughter.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.760
<v Speaker 4>How did you guys feel when Will ended up stepping

0:47:53.800 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 4>away from acting, you mean on camera from on camera acting?

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, we knew what the problem was, and we were

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>supportive of that. I was, of course disappointed, hopeful that

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 2>he would get over it, which he did and cut

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 2>over it. Not over.

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 5>You never really get over it. You learned, you learn

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 5>the better ways to deal with it.

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, that's one way of putting it.

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's true though, because it still hits you. I

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 6>mean I had a panic attack yesterday. They're they're always,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 6>of course there.

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 5>It's in. It's in you usually forever.

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 6>You just learn how to how to call it and

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 6>different skills to get through it that I didn't have

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 6>as a as a younger man.

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously I was disappointed because I felt he had

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a real future and in in the profession, and I

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 2>was hoping that in time, somehow the problem would work

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 2>itself out, which which it has. I mean, you said

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to me just the other day, you walk out of

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>this and you haven't taken a pill in years, and

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that you love doing it. Yeah, and just watching you guys,

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>all of you look so natural, so that, yeah, it

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>was a bad I had that. I mean I had

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 2>panic attacks that came out of nowhere in the nineties

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and it got so bad that I was fearful I

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 2>got a major promotion in the Navy, and I was

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 2>going to have to address a group of senior officers,

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:39.320
<v Speaker 2>including a handful of admirals, at a conference in Louisiana.

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>And as it turned out, one of my clients was

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 2>a psychiatrist who was injured in an automobile accident. And

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 2>she came in for a conference and I said, look,

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to deal with this. Oh, you

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about that, and she prescribed I

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>believe it was called indo all and she said, you

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 2>take one of these capsules an hour before you're going

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to do anything like that and you'll be fine. I did,

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was, and from that point on the problem

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>went away if I took the medication. Eventually it just

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 2>disappeared and I needed nothing. So I was well aware.

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these attacks are if you've ever had them,

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:33.919
<v Speaker 2>they are devastating. You're totally unable to function. But fortunately

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>they usually they come and go rather quickly. It's not

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 2>something that goes on for days, but it is totally incapacitating,

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 2>so that in time it works itself out and it

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>has well.

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 6>Again dealing with it, dealing with it better than I

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 6>ever have been is the best way to do it.

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 5>But it's always there. I mean, that's just the way

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 5>it works.

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 6>But you had panic attacks, whereas a lot of people

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 6>have the general anxiety, so it is something that is

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 6>days weeks long.

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 5>But you never had that, which is good.

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 2>So for some reason, if I faced I mean, I

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>went to a Navy drill in Newport one weekend and

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 2>forgot the medication and had to deliver a lecture. And

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I had to sit down and deliver the lecture because

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.959
<v Speaker 2>I forgot the pill, which convinced me though that hey,

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 2>you take the pill you find.

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that worked for you, didn't that one didn't work.

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Out, and it didn't work for him, but it fortunately

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 2>did for me. Right.

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 4>I want to ask you. Will is, obviously, for writer

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 4>and I one of our most favorite human beings on

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 4>the planet. And there are so many incredible characteristics he has.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 4>But if I were to put you on the spot

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 4>and ask you to say, what is your most favorite

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:50.439
<v Speaker 4>thing about Will?

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 2>His kindness, Yeah, and his love. I've seen him do

0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 2>things that most people wouldn't do. For instance, since a woman,

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>an old woman, attempting to get out of a car,

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 2>he will go and open the door and help her

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>out a guy for looking for a hnd out that

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people will walk through Stan and talk

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>to him a little bit and give him money. He's

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 2>one of the most charitable and kind men I've ever met.

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he has a bad bone in his body.

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean bone, and that to me is the most

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>important thing, because that's what people need today to really

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>make the world better. And that, to me is his

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 2>strongest point is his humanity, his love for people. And

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's been a wonderful song. Really. Ah, he's

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 2>sitting with sitting in his room now and he just

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>told me, and this is you're the first to hear this. Well, Pop,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>next time I come home, I think I'll start taking

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 2>my posters down. And I said, no, I don't want

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you to do that. He doesn't like. No, this is

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>his room. Nobody sees it will the members of the family.

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>But this is all the other rooms have been upredated,

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, with neutral colors and all this. Yeah, all

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 2>this crap. That the real estate.

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 1>He's still got the pink Floyd Dark Side of the

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Moon poster exactly.

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>This room is is his. And now I hope that

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 2>he leaves it. Eventually we're going to leave here and

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it won't take it wouldn't take half a day to

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>clear this place out, so hurry. So he's already said,

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of course.

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 6>That of course that I'll keep I'll keep the room.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 5>I'll keep the room here. That's fine.

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like a time capsule.

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 6>It is very time capsule.

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 4>So final question for you, how does it feel to

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 4>see will continue to be successful and live out the

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.720
<v Speaker 4>dream he had and created for himself as a child

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 4>of being a professional entertainer in the entertainment industry.

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. I have to tell you that that I

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 2>marvel at it. Sometimes I say, this is just hard

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 2>to believe, you know, and I he sent a note.

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Look at we're on the billboard in Times Square and

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 2>you look up and you see your son on a

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 2>billboard or you know all and of course the two

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of you when you look back nineteen ninety three, I've

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 2>known both of you for thirty years. You wish just

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>little kids. Yeah, when we're starting about the high voice voice,

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 2>I remember Ben Savage had a squeaky little voice and

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>by the end of the show was all the hell.

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're all aged and it's been wonderful. Yeah,

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just really there's no reason for it to stop.

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You're I know this sounds corny, but you're filling a void.

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 2>And you look at the people who go to your shows.

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 2>They're genuinely enthusiastic and happy because you're bringing to them

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:17.320
<v Speaker 2>something that doesn't exist too much in this world anymore.

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's become so callous and nasty, and you've brought back

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the sense of this program that you could sit with

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>your family and never have to worry about what you

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>are going to see because you don't steal, you don't

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 2>lie to your parents, you don't cheat on your tests

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 2>because mister Feenie's there and he's all going to watch

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 2>out for you. So yeah, I think what you're doing

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely marvelous.

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you very much, and thank you for your

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.800
<v Speaker 4>service not only in the Navy, but as a lawyer

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 4>and most importantly as the parent to one of the

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:03.760
<v Speaker 4>most most beautiful human beings on the inside and the out.

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 4>We just our lives have been completely altered by the

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 4>work you did as his father, and of course to Patricia,

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.879
<v Speaker 4>his mother as well, So thank you both for who

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 4>you are and for brightening our lives. Without even realizing it.

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you so much, and we thank you guys

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 2>for all the happiness and that you have brought to

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the family and to will.

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, we're going to invite ourselves to your home. Ye,

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.240
<v Speaker 4>when we are in Hartford, we're going to I'm taking

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity now to just say prepare a seat, will

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:40.720
<v Speaker 4>be there. I want to see the room in person.

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 5>We'll be fine.

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:44.760
<v Speaker 6>As long as the three of us do not spend

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 6>the night under the same roof because we are not married.

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:54.080
<v Speaker 4>We will get a place up the street. We will

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 4>follow the rules exactly. Well, all right, thank you.

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Again, you thank you for having me on.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:14.879
<v Speaker 7>Our love to Patricia.

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 4>What a guy.

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 5>He's a great guy.

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 6>And he could just tell he will just tell stories.

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 6>He loves telling the stories everywhere we go. You were

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 6>at the lumber yard and he's talking to the guy

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 6>about boy Mets World or the podcast or something like that.

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's amazing, amazing.

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the way that he, you know, was able

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to bring his lawyer legal expertise and protect you like

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that's such a clear you know, you know we now

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>all of our parents had no clue about the entertainment industry,

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>right it seems so terrifying.

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Get these head shots.

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And some agent comes in and says, I know everything.

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take care of all of this. And

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're so fortunate that you're dad did

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 1>have one area where he was very comfortable.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 3>It was like, send me the contract.

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to look at this.

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I know when my kid's gonna get screwed over or not,

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>or I'm going to defend him.

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 3>That's so amazing, sood.

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 6>It's I mean, again, I can't even count the number

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 6>of times that he'd finds something in the contract that

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 6>some other entertainment lawyer or somebody missed where it would

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 6>change everything and like, oh, yeah, that's right, we got

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 6>to take this out or do whatever.

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you look at every conject I've had since

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I was eleven.

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, when you think about it, I mean, it

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 4>is the way it should be. Not every kid actor

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 4>is as lucky, but in our case, no one has

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 4>your best interest in mind the way your parents do.

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 4>And so your dad having that you know, law expertise,

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 4>is like absolutely, there will be no word skipped over.

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 4>There will be no skimming at least on these contracts

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 4>and other.

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Like amazing thing which is exactly like, I know my

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>dad said a similar thing to me. But then also

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>when he was on the podcast, is what your dad

0:58:58.680 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>said about like when.

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 3>You don't like this anymore, we can't be done.

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>That is like, and that's to me, that's the difference

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>between like the awful stage parent and the good stage parent,

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because the awful stage parent says, once you've made a commitment,

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>we have to you know, this is good for us,

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You're making money, and it's like, hold on, this should

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>all just be a bonus. Like the idea of being

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a kid actor is insane. It's a crazy thing and

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>changes everybody's life. And to have boundaries and to say no, no, no, no,

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>my career, my life, our family's life is still important.

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 3>And if you're not having fun, if you're unhappy, we

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 3>don't do this. That is like, I know, that's the

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 3>essential ingredient.

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 4>My mom My mom really taught me not to complain

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 4>if I really didn't mean it, because the minute I

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 4>would complain about something, my mom would go, should we

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 4>be done, let's be done, Let's not do this anymore.

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 4>If you don't want to do this anymore, if you

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 4>don't want to go on auditions. I totally understand. It

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 4>is a drain. It is exhausting, it is tiring. We're

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 4>doing this for you. Are you saying you don't want

0:59:56.520 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 4>to do this anymore? And be like, no, I really do. Okay,

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 4>then then let's not complain. And so it really did

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 4>you know.

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:04.800
<v Speaker 5>It's the same they had.

1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 6>They had that mentality coupled with the other thing I

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 6>heard all the time was and writer, I think you

1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:11.880
<v Speaker 6>and Danielle, we've all talked about this. My parents were

1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 6>constantly harping on me, have something you love equally as

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 6>much to fall back on.

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 5>I would hear that all the time.

1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Be a well rounded person.

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this is awesome and this is extraordinary, but it's

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not defining you.

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 3>There's so many other aspects to you.

1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 6>And well, I mean again, if you keep the analogy

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 6>we always use of the entertainment industry as a child

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 6>being like a roller coaster.

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 5>A roller coaster ride stops.

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 6>You don't ride a roller coaster forever, right, And yet

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 6>somehow we found a way to stay on the ride.

1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 5>It's really rare and really weird.

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:46.960
<v Speaker 6>So it's a benefit to all of our parents that

1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 6>they were like, there's a really good chance this is temporary.

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.680
<v Speaker 6>A much better chance this is temporary than this is permanent.

1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:54.880
<v Speaker 6>So let's figure out what else we want to do.

1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 6>And that's what made our parents our parents.

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