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Speaker 1: You're apologizing to Ohio. I have no idea why. Indy

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Speaker 1: He was singing about it that Ohio is the worst

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Speaker 3: So and part of me.

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Speaker 1: Is like wants to like say, Indy, you gotta stop this.

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Speaker 1: Last Siren Head. Okay, Well, somewhere along the way he

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense?

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Speaker 1: Now, it's just and he's never caved, He's never like,

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Speaker 3: He keeps the.

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Speaker 1: So today he was saying that they wear wooden clothes

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Speaker 6: Like he's making up these statistics as he goes along.

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Speaker 1: But then he says, did you know it's illegal to

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Speaker 1: And he's like, look it up, look it up, and

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Speaker 4: Who are allowed searching the web.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, when are you accent? And when he goes

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Speaker 1: This year was the first time I've been to Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean also Skyline Chili is from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Scinnati is WKRP in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Also, Aglamsi's Brothers is some of the best ice cream

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Speaker 4: Aglamsi's Brothers, and you can order it. I've sent it

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Speaker 4: Just it was ice cream. It was an ice cream pool,

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Speaker 4: Oh, Indy, Well, welcome to Pod meets not Ohio. I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm Right or Strong, and I'm will Fordell.

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Speaker 4: Today we have a very special guest. In keeping with

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Speaker 6: I do all right, So here we go. So we're

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Speaker 6: I call him simply pop. So, dear listeners, with no

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Speaker 4: Hello, How you doing, Captain?

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Speaker 2: I am doing fine.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, good to see you again.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you guys too, And will say

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're excited to go back to Connecticut and

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Speaker 6: It's an on, running, on running joke between these two

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Speaker 6: That Connecticut is a little backwards, and that we tend

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Speaker 4: Well, I we did. We did say that there was

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Speaker 4: So I want to start with a very hard hitting question.

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Speaker 4: Do people often call you Attorney Gary Friedel?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, the the very few people ever pronounced the

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Speaker 5: Well, half of our family are the Freedles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean the family reunion in our Hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: Who what really if your family says it freed that's

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Speaker 2: No, that's true. The brothers divided on how to pronounce

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Speaker 1: Is So you could have at that moment just decided

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Speaker 1: my wife's family. They're the Burrettos, and there's a lot

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Speaker 6: Yep, we're the Fredell's. They're the Freedoles in your family,

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Speaker 2: Oh that. Of course, we found it out later that

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Speaker 5: Oh that's okay, yeah, And so this is.

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Speaker 1: Your acting agent that you have that's in New York, right, correct?

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Speaker 2: We walked in and there were eight million kids there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was That was it? And then how did

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Speaker 2: He debug bit him, and he made it very clear, repeatedly,

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Speaker 2: And I placated him for some period of time, and

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Speaker 2: Now my immediate thought, I will tell you bluntly is okay.

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Speaker 2: Now here it comes and I said, and what do

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Speaker 2: We signed up. Within ninety days, he got a CBS

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Speaker 2: In the third grader, you were just some kind of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I was the first. I was the first

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Speaker 6: it was. It was a whirlwind. It happened very quickly.

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Speaker 6: And you guys, I mean you saw the Kids and

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Speaker 5: You saw my lean acting. You saw you stood out,

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to go back really briefly. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: for that, and then the next year he directed another

440
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: film in Bridgeport, Connecticut that won first prize in the

441
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: Manhattan Film Festival the following year.

442
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: Well, where do you think their artistic side came from?

443
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 5: Not from me, are you kidding? Of course, it's from you.

444
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 5: It's from you and Pop.

445
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 6: So my grandfather, Pop, he was the first person who

446
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 6: ever did character.

447
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: Voices for me.

448
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: Oh, he would.

449
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 6: He would put me into bed at night and he

450
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 6: would do cartoon voices. And then my dad, who says

451
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 6: he's not an entertainer, would stand up in front of

452
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 6: a jury and he would entertain and you would. So

453
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 6: everywhere we were, there's times he reminded me of Bill

454
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 6: Daniels and that when Bill said to us, an entertainer

455
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 6: entertains wherever they are. If you want to act, you act.

456
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 6: That was my dad, and my dad would do it

457
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 6: to embarrass us a lot of times. But so you know,

458
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 6: I remember one time in the midd We're at an

459
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 6: ice cream shop, you know, an ice cream shop in Massachusetts,

460
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 6: and I'm probably seven or eight, and so my brothers

461
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 6: are teenage years, the prime prime time to be embarrassed.

462
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 6: And there's a whole group of young kids around, young

463
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 6: girls around, and so my dad starts moonwalking through them

464
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 6: while pointing at my brothers and be in the cool guy.

465
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 5: I mean, that was my dad.

466
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 6: So he says, he doesn't know where I got my entertainment,

467
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 6: but I think you, had you gone a different route

468
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 6: in your life, there's a very real possibility you could

469
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 6: have been an entertainer.

470
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I do like I did

471
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: enjoy court room work and acting before, you know, with

472
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: jury presenting ideas and things like that.

473
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: So maybe that's what I would say.

474
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

475
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we have tried to

476
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: disagree about with Will about his own life. But I

477
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 4: feel like you're the perfect person to answer this. I'm

478
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: going to consider you the expert. Will claims no girls

479
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: liked him before he became famous, and we just find

480
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: that very hard to believe because he was always a

481
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 4: very good looking, charismatic kid. Did Will have girlfriends before

482
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: he became famous?

483
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: Well, friends is not really he had. I don't think

484
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: he dated a lot. He's often says that that I

485
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: wasn't aware that they didn't like him, but he really

486
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: didn't have a girlfriend per se.

487
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 4: All Right, I mean, I guess you believe me yet,

488
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: I mean I guess so. I did say I was

489
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: going to consider your dad to be the expert.

490
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: But were you ever now so once the agents were

491
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: calling and signing up, were you ever worried about what

492
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry might might do to young Will?

493
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Extremely so. We yeah had a lot of misgivings.

494
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, one of the things that

495
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: we said when he started getting interested in it was Okay,

496
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: you can go to New York one day a week.

497
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: We are not going to become stage parents. My wife

498
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 2: went down a few times with him and said every

499
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: single afternoon this people would be there. They'd come in

500
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: from Pennsylvania for the auditions with their kids, five days

501
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: a week. We said, we're not going to do that.

502
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: You can go once a week. Also, the most important

503
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: thing is we told him the minute you stop liking this, quit,

504
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't care at what stage you are. Life is

505
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 2: too sure. And with that in mind, we really did

506
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: hold to it. With one interesting exception. I can remember.

507
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: It was a show called True Blue and Christopher Mitcham,

508
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: Bob Mitcham's son was starring in it, and they needed

509
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: a kid of Will's age. And the phone rang. It

510
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: was like a He'd already been to the city that week,

511
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: and it was the second phone call. I said, mister gold,

512
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: you know the rule. He said, Listen, they called. They

513
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: really need somebody. I think he's got a real shot

514
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: at getting this role. And it's an NBC national television program. Okay, Will,

515
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: we're going to go to New York. Well, he actually

516
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: starts crying, I'm tired, Daddy, I don't want to go

517
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: to New York again. Okay, here's what we'll do. I'm

518
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: going to put your blanket and the pillow in the

519
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: back seat of the car and we will drive you

520
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: to the city and you can sleep. Oh okay, So

521
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: we do that. We get about twenty minutes outside of

522
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: New York City and I say, will you better read

523
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: the script? Now you have a looked at it. So

524
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 2: it comes into the front seat, which, of course today

525
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: you get arrested for doing.

526
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. You climb from the back seat into the.

527
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: Fuse literally paging through and I'm kind of glancing peripherally saying,

528
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: oh my god. So he closes it. Did you learn

529
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: your lines? I memorized everybody's lines, Dad, I said what

530
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: he had. He had memorized the entire script that he read.

531
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: So we go down for the interview. He gets it,

532
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: and that was also interesting because he's a kid. We

533
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: go on the set, it's like seven point thirty in

534
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: the morning, and about seven o'clock at night, they come

535
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: to us and say, oh, an hour or so, we're

536
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: going to get to you. And I said, no, you're not.

537
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: You've already violated New York state law. You are holding

538
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: a child more than beyond the allowable time. We are leaving.

539
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: You can't leave, I said, we are leaving. You have

540
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: a choice. You can put us up at a hotel

541
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: and we'll be back tomorrow, or we're going home. Well,

542
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: of course, they put us up at a suite in

543
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: the Mayflower. So the next and then we go back

544
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: and one of the guys comes over and he says, wow, congratulation.

545
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Nobody ever does that. He said, they call these kids

546
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: here all the time. You're the first parent that's ever

547
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: spoken up.

548
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: That's great. Good for you.

549
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the same show he's supposed to roll

550
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: off a cliff and be caught by somebody down eight

551
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: or nine feet. Is that okay with you, mister Fradell,

552
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: I said, absolutely not. That's what you have doubles for.

553
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: So a double did it. But it was we had

554
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: some interesting experiences. I mean, there's a big I remember this,

555
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: the big, heavy, big guy. They sent over the big

556
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: gun to say, you've got to stay here. I said, no, no, no,

557
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: familiar with the law, We're not staying here. And that's

558
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: scared of them enough so that we left. But this

559
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: was just oh another time. I'm getting ready for a trial.

560
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: It's like a two day afternoon and the phone rings.

561
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: They want Will in Los Angeles on Thursday. I said,

562
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: mister gold, I'm starting a trial. I don't know that

563
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: I can do it. I said, let me get back

564
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: to you. So I called the other lawyer explain to oh, god,

565
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: that's great, Gary, go for it. So I get on

566
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: the phone with a judge. Tell the judge, Oh, that's fantastic, Yeah,

567
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: go ahead, we'll continue the trial. So the next day

568
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: we're on the plane to Los Angeles and that I

569
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: don't think that was the time you got it.

570
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 6: No, that was the that was I think almost home.

571
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 6: That was when we first met Jason. Remember the first

572
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 6: time we met Jason. Because you got to meet Perry

573
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 6: King from Riptide.

574
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: Is because you auditioned for this role.

575
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: Corraow.

576
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: Course I couldn't help. But when I saw some of

577
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: these people I recognized from television, I would want to

578
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: talk to him. Dad, don't do that, you know. And

579
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: I remember this the Riptide guy. I said, I so

580
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: enjoyed your show, and he said, we started. He started

581
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: telling us all about it. You know, the days were

582
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: fourteen sixteen hours long and we but we really enjoyed it.

583
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, all these people, Richard Pryor at the Big

584
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: Boy in Burbank. Oh, don't say anything to him, Dad,

585
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: mister Pryor, I just want to thank you for so

586
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: many years of pleasure and entertainment. Oh, thank you so much.

587
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: He got up and shook my hand. I mean another one.

588
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: It's mister Daniels, mister Feenie, who was one of my favorites.

589
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: He'd walk up to me, mister Fredell, it's so nice

590
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: to see you again.

591
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: Oh.

592
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Will reminds me so much of myself when I was

593
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: his age. And I said, mister Daniels, thank you so much,

594
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: You've done so much for my son, and you know.

595
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: Then he would smile and we chat for five minutes

596
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: and he turn and retreat to his dressing room. Yeah,

597
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of fun experiences. When you guys

598
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: were doing a show, My wife and I would usually

599
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: try to out for the opening show and the closing one.

600
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: Okay, good. Yeah.

601
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: One of them, if you remember, was a scene where

602
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: you guys were sitting around at least Will was at

603
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: the table and they were gambling something like that, and

604
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: he was eating pretzels.

605
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: Oh, it's the episode we just saw.

606
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: We just watched it.

607
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cut and a group of girls in the

608
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: audience cried out, Will, we love how you chew? He

609
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: heard it. He spits out the pretzels that he's chewing.

610
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: His mother and I are hysterical. We're just seeing there,

611
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: we love how you chew.

612
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: From being a big old ugo who nobody liked as

613
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: a kid to all of a sudden can't even choot

614
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: pretzels without being fond over.

615
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: He doesn't even mean who knows what that means?

616
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: We love? I forgot about that. And then the one

617
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: another one when the scene when he's sitting on the

618
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: couch and his father, Rusty comes out. The first take

619
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: is Eric, get your ass off the couch and go

620
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: get a job. I said to my wife, Jacobs will

621
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: never let that go. Second take, Eric, get your butt

622
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: off the couch and go. I said to r He's

623
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: not gonna like that either. Third take, Eric, get off

624
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: that couch and go get a job. And that gave

625
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: us getting back to one of your earlier questions. When

626
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: we first met with Jacobs, he assured us you do

627
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: not have to worry about anything that is going to

628
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: take place on this set. And I have to admit

629
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: everything we saw, I had more people come in and

630
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: say to me, you know, we could sit there with

631
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: our children, our daughters, our sons, seven eight nine year

632
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: old kids that never have to worry about what we

633
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: were going to see, which doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, and

634
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: it's it was. It was a refreshing thing to watch

635
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: a truly well done family show. But and I admit

636
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: I would never prejudice at all. It was completely unbind.

637
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: Of course, so as Will would start booking more and

638
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: more jobs, were you looking at every single one of

639
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: his contracts for him?

640
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: Of course? Still does I still do? Yep, yes, we

641
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: just put part I think it's called Middle Part Productions.

642
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. We've got our own little production company that.

643
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 5: There still does. Look at everything that I do.

644
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 6: I get again, when you've got a brother in finance

645
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 6: and two parents that are lawyers, you are set up

646
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 6: for a nice base when you're going into the acting industry,

647
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: that's for sure.

648
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: Well Will also mentioned that you once called Michael Jacobs

649
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: because you were concerned his role was going to be dwindling.

650
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: What do you remember about that conversation and do you

651
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: remember the circumstance? What what made you concerned?

652
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I I think I call the agent, not Jacobs.

653
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you guys remember the trio that came

654
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: on in I think the second season. Yeah, I found

655
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: them very interested and no in a good way, A

656
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: feeling a bad feeling that they could very well eclipse

657
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: somebody like the older brother in this series. And what

658
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: I saw, we wait, I waited a while, was a

659
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: couple times he was on camera for ten seconds for

660
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: the whole thing, you know, zoom in for a family shot.

661
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: So I called the agent, I said, what's going on here?

662
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: I said, he was almost not on for most of

663
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: this The last three shows and they looked into it.

664
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: Whether I don't know what happened. Unfortunately, I had this

665
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: feeling that he could overpower Will's a character. Yeah, but

666
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: that didn't happen.

667
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: This is again I did not hear about this until

668
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 6: years later. Where I called the guy was like, you

669
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 6: actually called my agent? Yes, because you did you know

670
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 6: the episode? He told me that that was the final

671
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 6: straw was It's the one where Corey's making the video

672
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: and Eric finally it says like you know, I'm the

673
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 6: I'm the guy for you and I'm I you know,

674
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 6: he's being interviewed. He's later gals on the couch and

675
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 6: that was the only I had like three lines in

676
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: the episode.

677
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: And that was the final straw for my dad.

678
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 6: So from from not being a stage parent to picking

679
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 6: up the phone and calling my agent like that.

680
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, certainly an interesting transition.

681
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: Well there's one other one that that Will might remember,

682
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: and this one still shakes me up. I was homesick

683
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: and it was before well before boy the phone rings

684
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: and it's the agent. There's an opening I think he

685
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: can go on saved by the bill, which I said,

686
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: what's saved by the bell. It's it's blah blah blah program,

687
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: a national program. Yes, but I don't recommend it. Why

688
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't specifically recall his reason.

689
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 5: Oh I do. It was the money.

690
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: Money.

691
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: It was that it was money.

692
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, the money was so low that you got now

693
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: again I did. I was not privy to any of this.

694
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 6: The money was so low that it would actually have

695
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 6: cost me money to.

696
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 5: Live in La to do. It was paid by the Bell,

697
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 5: the New Class.

698
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't on a network, right, they were. They

699
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: were like an independent studio. I just remember because they

700
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: figured out some way that it was it was an

701
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: after contract.

702
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: It was not a sad contract. I think.

703
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: Really there was a different unions and they somehow managed

704
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: because it was like children's programing or.

705
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: Something, Saturday morning program Saturday mornings.

706
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: They paid so much less than like a network television show.

707
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: But then they it was still a nationally aired show,

708
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: so it was like you'd get the exposure. But yeah,

709
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: there was not as much money. And say about the Bell,

710
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: I remember that well.

711
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: But what concerns me was saying no. And of course

712
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: I said no without consulting him, and I'm thinking, wow,

713
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: what if I'm wrong? But the agent had said, no,

714
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: I really feel he's going to get something, and I

715
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: thought memory serves me correctly. It's less than two months

716
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: later when the call came for Boy and we flew out.

717
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: I was pissed, though, when you finally told me, I

718
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 6: was pissed because it was saved by the Bell the

719
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: New Class. I was a saved by the Bell fan.

720
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 6: You know obviously big James Vanderbeek guy always have been.

721
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: Course, we love James Vanderbeek.

722
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: Saved by the Bell and so he.

723
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 5: When they finally told me and you, I remember you.

724
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 6: I think probably wanted to keep it a secret for me,

725
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 6: but you are very bad at keeping secrets, and you

726
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: felt guilty. So you, you and Steve sat me down.

727
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: My who's my agent? Sat me down and told me

728
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: we turned down saved by the Bell the New Class,

729
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 6: And I what it was.

730
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: All I wanted to be was on a sitcom. I

731
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: was a huge saved by the Bell fan. How could

732
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: you do this? And then like two months later I

733
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: got Boy? Yeah?

734
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: So wow?

735
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: And had you been on Saved by the Bell the

736
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: New Class, you wouldn't have been available for Boy Me's world.

737
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 4: Just so, our dear listeners, understand that he would have

738
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: been contractually obligated to save by the Bell the New Class,

739
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: and you wouldn't have even been able to audition for Boy.

740
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 5: Correct and the Bell.

741
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: The New Class did not last long, right, that was

742
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't think two seasons, Max.

743
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, Saved by the Bell. The New Class only went

744
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 5: a season or two.

745
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: I think, I yeah, wow, Well, there's no doubt that

746
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: was the right decision. But at the time, I can

747
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 4: see why you would have been upset.

748
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well it was scared because I said, what

749
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: if I made the right decision, I'm talking about his career.

750
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: This is a national program. But then again, this is

751
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: what we had an agent for. And I do believe

752
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: in listening to the professionals, you know, because what you

753
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: have them for. Right, he felt very confident. I don't

754
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: really feel you should accept this, But he wouldn't have

755
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: if we said, yes, oh yeah, if you.

756
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: Left it up to him.

757
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep.

758
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: So we talked about your you know, fears that he

759
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: was going to get written off the show.

760
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly that did not happen. In fact, the opposite happened.

761
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Will became sort of a show unto himself with enjoy

762
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Mitsworld What was that like for you to see as

763
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: the show went on and his part get bigger and bigger,

764
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: and you know, frankly, he got funnier too. As an actor,

765
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: he got better and better. How was that for you?

766
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you all did the show. The

767
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: show got better, You all got better if you watched

768
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: from the viewpoint of an adult, and then particularly from

769
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: a family member of one of you. Guys, We just

770
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: watched as you all developed, and the show just got

771
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: better and better and better. And yeah, I was very

772
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: proud because I had, whether they mentioned or not, I

773
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: can't tell you the number of clients I had come

774
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: into my office and said, we watched that program because

775
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: of your son, Funny And yeah, I mean you guys,

776
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: I said a long time ago. And Will disagree with me.

777
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: I said, you have created a cult. You wait and see. No, Dad, No,

778
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. The people who have come in and

779
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: talked to me about it, did you. This is a

780
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: cult in the making. And I think I've turned out

781
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: to be right.

782
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: It is you were, but a wonderful cult.

783
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the good the good kind, the good kind. Yeah,

784
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 5: good healthy family what.

785
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: This healthy family cult? Exactly? So Will is living let's

786
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: say Will gets the Boy meets World. He's living alone

787
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, working on Friday nights. Were you all

788
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: the Fredell family sitting down together to watch every episode?

789
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: Of course? And even more than that, his mother would

790
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: pick the phone up as soon as the episode would

791
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: finish and call on them and say, honey, that was

792
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: so great. And I said, you know, this is filmed

793
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I know, but she would religiously call him

794
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: after every single episode.

795
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that is so nice.

796
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: Will.

797
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Were you also watching in your apartment in La Do

798
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: you watch it?

799
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 5: That's the last time I saw again.

800
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 6: I was never the guy to go to clubs or

801
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: bars or any of that stuff.

802
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 4: So far, no girlfriends, no girlfriends.

803
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 5: A little later I had go around, okay, okay, watch

804
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: it with my girlfriends. That's the five part. Sit there

805
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: and you know, watch boys.

806
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 6: So yes, I saw every episode when it aired, and

807
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 6: that was the last time.

808
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: And then you'd count down to the phone ringing, and

809
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: you knew it'd be.

810
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: Your mom and dad, My mom would my mom would

811
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 6: be calling me right after the show was done.

812
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 5: Yep, every week.

813
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: So what did you guys think? When then he started

814
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 4: a relationship with Jennifer Love Hewitt.

815
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: We first of all, we didn't know too much about

816
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: her because she was on this swa Party of five

817
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: or something like that, which we never watched. We knew

818
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: her name, but she seemed very nice. I mean she

819
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: was I think seventeen and he was nineteen, and she

820
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: couple times called during the week to speak to my wife,

821
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: just to say hello and how a thing was going.

822
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 6: He did, Yeah, I don't think.

823
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: I don't think I was like she was.

824
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Said. One time we started watching the program. We felt

825
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: we had to, so we watched the program and one

826
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: of the episodes, she's kissing another boy. Sold I said, love,

827
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: you were kissing another boy on the screen. All mister

828
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: Fredell said, that's just part of playing and the other

829
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: acting or something like that. But she was, she was

830
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: very nice.

831
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 5: She was.

832
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: She did come to stay around I think it was

833
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: the holidays, and they stayed up the road. She had

834
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: her mother and visited with us for about a week.

835
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: But she was always, I have to say, very very pleasant,

836
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: very sweet, very nice. She was.

837
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 5: She was a very sweet girl.

838
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: Yep, you guys are such a cute family. She came

839
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: with her mom and they stayed up the street. You

840
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: guys had the two families together for the holidays. Yes,

841
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: it's so cute.

842
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: Well, my parents had a very very strict rule in

843
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 6: our house where unless you were married, you did not

844
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 6: share a room. So even when my brother and sister

845
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 6: in law were engaged, they were not allowed to share

846
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 6: a room under right.

847
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: Because you could just get engaged just to sleep in

848
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 4: the same room.

849
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: And then.

850
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: You know, of course, also assumed that the second the

851
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 6: lights went out, everyone wasn't changing rooms.

852
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Which we found that they did.

853
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 6: Of course, we found that they found that out later,

854
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 6: but at the time we all stayed in our proper rooms.

855
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 4: Do you think Will and Eric have any similarities?

856
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Certainly not intellectually. We'll tell you. I was bothered by

857
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: the fact that they made him appear stupid with things

858
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: like going to Yali and ridiculous things like that. That

859
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: part I didn't want.

860
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: I ad lived that. I just.

861
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Know that that part of his his character was inconsistent

862
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: with the Will we knew. And of course as the

863
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: show developed, you saw that it really wasn't the true

864
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: Will that underneath and he was quite smart and he

865
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 2: knew what was going on. So I think that too

866
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: developed over the seventy years of the show. That that,

867
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: but I do think that some of the stuff, of course,

868
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: was comedic when he was supposedly campaigning for an office.

869
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: And I still have said to him Eric for governor

870
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: of California. I think he should run. I think he

871
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: could win.

872
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: What is your favorite project Will has done professionally.

873
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I've never really thought of that.

874
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: Of course, we liked By Date with the President's Daughter.

875
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wasn't crazy about Trojan War.

876
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, too many sex hijinks going on.

877
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: Well, I mean other than the show. I mean, obviously

878
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: our favorite was Boy Meus World. I mean that was,

879
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: you know, an amazing performance by all of you guys.

880
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: So it would be that and probably My Day.

881
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 6: Okay, I can tell you for answering for my mom.

882
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 6: Other than Boy, which is their number one, My mom

883
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 6: loved h Double Hockey Stick, Yes, okay, he was a

884
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 6: big fan of H Double Hockey Sticks with myself and

885
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: Matti Lawrence, so she was a fan of that. My

886
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 6: dad liked My Day with the President's Daughter.

887
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: How did you guys feel when Will ended up stepping

888
00:47:53,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: away from acting, you mean on camera from on camera acting?

889
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: Well, we knew what the problem was, and we were

890
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: supportive of that. I was, of course disappointed, hopeful that

891
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: he would get over it, which he did and cut

892
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: over it. Not over.

893
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 5: You never really get over it. You learned, you learn

894
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: the better ways to deal with it.

895
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that's one way of putting it.

896
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 6: Yes, it's true though, because it still hits you. I

897
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 6: mean I had a panic attack yesterday. They're they're always,

898
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 6: of course there.

899
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 5: It's in. It's in you usually forever.

900
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 6: You just learn how to how to call it and

901
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 6: different skills to get through it that I didn't have

902
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 6: as a as a younger man.

903
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously I was disappointed because I felt he had

904
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: a real future and in in the profession, and I

905
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: was hoping that in time, somehow the problem would work

906
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: itself out, which which it has. I mean, you said

907
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: to me just the other day, you walk out of

908
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: this and you haven't taken a pill in years, and

909
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: that you love doing it. Yeah, and just watching you guys,

910
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: all of you look so natural, so that, yeah, it

911
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: was a bad I had that. I mean I had

912
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: panic attacks that came out of nowhere in the nineties

913
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: and it got so bad that I was fearful I

914
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: got a major promotion in the Navy, and I was

915
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: going to have to address a group of senior officers,

916
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: including a handful of admirals, at a conference in Louisiana.

917
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: And as it turned out, one of my clients was

918
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: a psychiatrist who was injured in an automobile accident. And

919
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: she came in for a conference and I said, look,

920
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how to deal with this. Oh, you

921
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that, and she prescribed I

922
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: believe it was called indo all and she said, you

923
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: take one of these capsules an hour before you're going

924
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: to do anything like that and you'll be fine. I did,

925
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: and I was, and from that point on the problem

926
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: went away if I took the medication. Eventually it just

927
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: disappeared and I needed nothing. So I was well aware.

928
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, these attacks are if you've ever had them,

929
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 2: they are devastating. You're totally unable to function. But fortunately

930
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: they usually they come and go rather quickly. It's not

931
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: something that goes on for days, but it is totally incapacitating,

932
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: so that in time it works itself out and it

933
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: has well.

934
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 6: Again dealing with it, dealing with it better than I

935
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: ever have been is the best way to do it.

936
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: But it's always there. I mean, that's just the way

937
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: it works.

938
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 6: But you had panic attacks, whereas a lot of people

939
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 6: have the general anxiety, so it is something that is

940
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 6: days weeks long.

941
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: But you never had that, which is good.

942
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: So for some reason, if I faced I mean, I

943
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: went to a Navy drill in Newport one weekend and

944
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: forgot the medication and had to deliver a lecture. And

945
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: I had to sit down and deliver the lecture because

946
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 2: I forgot the pill, which convinced me though that hey,

947
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: you take the pill you find.

948
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that worked for you, didn't that one didn't work.

949
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: Out, and it didn't work for him, but it fortunately

950
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: did for me. Right.

951
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 4: I want to ask you. Will is, obviously, for writer

952
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: and I one of our most favorite human beings on

953
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: the planet. And there are so many incredible characteristics he has.

954
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: But if I were to put you on the spot

955
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: and ask you to say, what is your most favorite

956
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 4: thing about Will?

957
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: His kindness, Yeah, and his love. I've seen him do

958
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: things that most people wouldn't do. For instance, since a woman,

959
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: an old woman, attempting to get out of a car,

960
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: he will go and open the door and help her

961
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: out a guy for looking for a hnd out that

962
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people will walk through Stan and talk

963
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: to him a little bit and give him money. He's

964
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: one of the most charitable and kind men I've ever met.

965
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he has a bad bone in his body.

966
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 2: I mean bone, and that to me is the most

967
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: important thing, because that's what people need today to really

968
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: make the world better. And that, to me is his

969
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: strongest point is his humanity, his love for people. And

970
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean he's been a wonderful song. Really. Ah, he's

971
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: sitting with sitting in his room now and he just

972
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: told me, and this is you're the first to hear this. Well, Pop,

973
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: next time I come home, I think I'll start taking

974
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: my posters down. And I said, no, I don't want

975
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: you to do that. He doesn't like. No, this is

976
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: his room. Nobody sees it will the members of the family.

977
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: But this is all the other rooms have been upredated,

978
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, with neutral colors and all this. Yeah, all

979
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: this crap. That the real estate.

980
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: He's still got the pink Floyd Dark Side of the

981
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: Moon poster exactly.

982
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: This room is is his. And now I hope that

983
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: he leaves it. Eventually we're going to leave here and

984
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: it won't take it wouldn't take half a day to

985
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: clear this place out, so hurry. So he's already said,

986
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: of course.

987
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 6: That of course that I'll keep I'll keep the room.

988
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: I'll keep the room here. That's fine.

989
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: It's like a time capsule.

990
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 6: It is very time capsule.

991
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: So final question for you, how does it feel to

992
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: see will continue to be successful and live out the

993
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 4: dream he had and created for himself as a child

994
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: of being a professional entertainer in the entertainment industry.

995
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: It's incredible. I have to tell you that that I

996
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: marvel at it. Sometimes I say, this is just hard

997
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: to believe, you know, and I he sent a note.

998
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: Look at we're on the billboard in Times Square and

999
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: you look up and you see your son on a

1000
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: billboard or you know all and of course the two

1001
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: of you when you look back nineteen ninety three, I've

1002
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: known both of you for thirty years. You wish just

1003
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: little kids. Yeah, when we're starting about the high voice voice,

1004
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: I remember Ben Savage had a squeaky little voice and

1005
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: by the end of the show was all the hell.

1006
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: You know, when you're all aged and it's been wonderful. Yeah,

1007
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: it's just really there's no reason for it to stop.

1008
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: You're I know this sounds corny, but you're filling a void.

1009
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: And you look at the people who go to your shows.

1010
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: They're genuinely enthusiastic and happy because you're bringing to them

1011
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: something that doesn't exist too much in this world anymore.

1012
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: It's become so callous and nasty, and you've brought back

1013
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: the sense of this program that you could sit with

1014
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: your family and never have to worry about what you

1015
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: are going to see because you don't steal, you don't

1016
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: lie to your parents, you don't cheat on your tests

1017
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: because mister Feenie's there and he's all going to watch

1018
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: out for you. So yeah, I think what you're doing

1019
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: is absolutely marvelous.

1020
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much, and thank you for your

1021
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 4: service not only in the Navy, but as a lawyer

1022
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: and most importantly as the parent to one of the

1023
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 4: most most beautiful human beings on the inside and the out.

1024
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: We just our lives have been completely altered by the

1025
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 4: work you did as his father, and of course to Patricia,

1026
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: his mother as well, So thank you both for who

1027
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: you are and for brightening our lives. Without even realizing it.

1028
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, and we thank you guys

1029
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: for all the happiness and that you have brought to

1030
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: the family and to will.

1031
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to invite ourselves to your home. Ye,

1032
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 4: when we are in Hartford, we're going to I'm taking

1033
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: the opportunity now to just say prepare a seat, will

1034
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 4: be there. I want to see the room in person.

1035
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: We'll be fine.

1036
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 6: As long as the three of us do not spend

1037
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 6: the night under the same roof because we are not married.

1038
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: We will get a place up the street. We will

1039
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: follow the rules exactly. Well, all right, thank you.

1040
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: Again, you thank you for having me on.

1041
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 7: Our love to Patricia.

1042
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: What a guy.

1043
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 5: He's a great guy.

1044
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: And he could just tell he will just tell stories.

1045
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 6: He loves telling the stories everywhere we go. You were

1046
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: at the lumber yard and he's talking to the guy

1047
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 6: about boy Mets World or the podcast or something like that.

1048
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing, amazing.

1049
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I love the way that he, you know, was able

1050
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: to bring his lawyer legal expertise and protect you like

1051
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: that's such a clear you know, you know we now

1052
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: all of our parents had no clue about the entertainment industry,

1053
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: right it seems so terrifying.

1054
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: Get these head shots.

1055
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: And some agent comes in and says, I know everything.

1056
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of all of this. And

1057
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you're so fortunate that you're dad did

1058
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: have one area where he was very comfortable.

1059
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: It was like, send me the contract.

1060
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to look at this.

1061
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: I know when my kid's gonna get screwed over or not,

1062
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: or I'm going to defend him.

1063
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: That's so amazing, sood.

1064
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 6: It's I mean, again, I can't even count the number

1065
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 6: of times that he'd finds something in the contract that

1066
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 6: some other entertainment lawyer or somebody missed where it would

1067
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 6: change everything and like, oh, yeah, that's right, we got

1068
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 6: to take this out or do whatever.

1069
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at every conject I've had since

1070
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: I was eleven.

1071
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, when you think about it, I mean, it

1072
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 4: is the way it should be. Not every kid actor

1073
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: is as lucky, but in our case, no one has

1074
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: your best interest in mind the way your parents do.

1075
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: And so your dad having that you know, law expertise,

1076
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: is like absolutely, there will be no word skipped over.

1077
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: There will be no skimming at least on these contracts

1078
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: and other.

1079
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: Like amazing thing which is exactly like, I know my

1080
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: dad said a similar thing to me. But then also

1081
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: when he was on the podcast, is what your dad

1082
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: said about like when.

1083
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: You don't like this anymore, we can't be done.

1084
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: That is like, and that's to me, that's the difference

1085
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: between like the awful stage parent and the good stage parent,

1086
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: because the awful stage parent says, once you've made a commitment,

1087
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: we have to you know, this is good for us,

1088
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: You're making money, and it's like, hold on, this should

1089
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: all just be a bonus. Like the idea of being

1090
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: a kid actor is insane. It's a crazy thing and

1091
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: changes everybody's life. And to have boundaries and to say no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: my career, my life, our family's life is still important.

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Speaker 3: And if you're not having fun, if you're unhappy, we

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Speaker 3: don't do this. That is like, I know, that's the

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Speaker 3: essential ingredient.

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Speaker 4: My mom My mom really taught me not to complain

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Speaker 4: if I really didn't mean it, because the minute I

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Speaker 4: would complain about something, my mom would go, should we

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Speaker 4: be done, let's be done, Let's not do this anymore.

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Speaker 4: If you don't want to do this anymore, if you

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Speaker 4: don't want to go on auditions. I totally understand. It

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Speaker 4: is a drain. It is exhausting, it is tiring. We're

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Speaker 4: doing this for you. Are you saying you don't want

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Speaker 4: to do this anymore? And be like, no, I really do. Okay,

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Speaker 4: then then let's not complain. And so it really did

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 5: It's the same they had.

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Speaker 6: They had that mentality coupled with the other thing I

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Speaker 6: heard all the time was and writer, I think you

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Speaker 6: and Danielle, we've all talked about this. My parents were

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Speaker 6: constantly harping on me, have something you love equally as

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Speaker 6: much to fall back on.

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Speaker 5: I would hear that all the time.

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Speaker 3: Be a well rounded person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this is awesome and this is extraordinary, but it's

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Speaker 1: not defining you.

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Speaker 3: There's so many other aspects to you.

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Speaker 6: And well, I mean again, if you keep the analogy

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Speaker 6: we always use of the entertainment industry as a child

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Speaker 6: being like a roller coaster.

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Speaker 5: A roller coaster ride stops.

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Speaker 6: You don't ride a roller coaster forever, right, And yet

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Speaker 6: somehow we found a way to stay on the ride.

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Speaker 5: It's really rare and really weird.

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Speaker 6: So it's a benefit to all of our parents that

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Speaker 6: they were like, there's a really good chance this is temporary.

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Speaker 6: A much better chance this is temporary than this is permanent.

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Speaker 6: So let's figure out what else we want to do.

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Speaker 6: And that's what made our parents our parents.

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Speaker 4: Well. Thank you all for joining us us for this

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Speaker 4: episode of Podmeets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 6: Podmeets World is nheart podcast producer and hosted by Danielle Fischel,

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Speaker 6: Wilfordell and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 6: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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