1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Bobby belunteer to introduce you to a new weekly 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: podcast out every Sunday featuring five of my favorite podcasts 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: on the Nashville podcast Network, The Bobby Cast, Four Things 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: with Amy Brown, Sore Losers hosted by Lunchbox and Ray Mundo, 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Get Real with Caroline Hobby, and Mike D's Movie Mike's 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Movie Podcast. All these podcasts cover a variety of topics 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: from music to movies, the healthy living, to self care 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: and sports, and the hosts usually have a well different 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: guests or expert or they're an expert in their own mind. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: So each Sunday we're going to share highlights with you 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: guys to get us started. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Highlighting some clips. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Here is Lily Rose on The Bobby Cast talking about 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: being defined by only one genre and how she really 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: didn't take off until she downloaded TikTok. You're figuring out 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: who you are and again you didn't have a genre. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: But Naturville you can kind of come to just because 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: the just the guts of the town's music. Of course 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: it's country, yeah, but it's more than that because the 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: Satan writers are here, the studios are here, the pope, 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: So I feel like your country. I just wouldn't have 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: ever thought you weren't. 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: I didn't grow up listening to country like my parents didn't, 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: and none of my friend's parents did either. But seventh grade, 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: somebody put on I go back on a boombox in 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: my backyard and I was like, what is that? 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: But that's also okay. Who I really don't like are 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: the people that are well if you didn't know, if 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: you can't, you know, differentiate Merle from Whalen, And it's like, 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: that is not fair, Yeah, because you're cutting out such 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: a wonderfully talented group of people that have the same 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: fundamental country storytelling we I don'd say country, but like 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: storytelling sensibilities. I mean, you just happen to be from 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: the Southeast, but heck you could have been from southern California. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: But it's all an understanding and how you're doing the 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: art more than anything else, hundred percent. 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: I mean sometimes you know, when I first when Villain 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: exploded and I was really starting to do these interviews 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: and press and stuff like that, I would get so 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 4: nervous when people rapid fire questions, you could have any 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: genre or any era of country music, what would it be? 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: And I was like, ah, should I just be fake 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: and say the nineties? And I'm like, you want to 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: know what, screw it? The Rascal Flats era? I am 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: like five to twenty eleven. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: And that's honestly the most fun answer to get whenever 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: you're an interviewer talking to somebody. Yeah, and I've made 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: jokes about how people have to be like, oh, you 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: know cash. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: Now. 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: Luckily for me, I grew up in Arkansas and Johnny 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Cash was from Arkansas. My grandma was obsessed with him, 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: So I had all that forced on me. Yeah, had 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: and I had a forced all me. I probably wouldn't 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: have found it right. So I don't think that there's 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: a difference really in you hearing I go back in 59 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: seventh grade and my grandma going, you have to listen 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: to Johnny Cash because he's like Gus, he's from Arkansas. 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: No difference. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there is either. 63 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: And I'm so excited when people tell me I never 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: liked country music and then I heard you and I'm 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 4: in and it was like my gateway. And I think 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: Morgan does that for the genre the best right now 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: for everyone. But it's like, what is the difference of 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: you know, everyone has, whether it's your grandma's playing it 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: for you. 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: And I got a bit I mentioned this maybe one 71 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: of the last two. I got a bit that I 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: do in my stand up act that I talk about 73 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: how people make fun of well I ain't country. Well, 74 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: then the only things that are country are artists of 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: color from Africa that brought the banjo over or Europeans 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: that brought the fiddle. Yeah, like that's lid to relief. Yeah, 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: none of that's the genesis of country music. That's where 78 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: the banjo it comes from in the Southeast was slaves 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: coming a from the slave ship. 80 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's like, well I ain't overalls and chewing 82 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: on a straw and talking about a truck that I ain't. 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: It's like you have your The most uneducated people are 84 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the ones that say that. 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean there's there's a lot of truth 86 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: in country music that doesn't have to revolve. 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: Around absolutely trucks. It really fires me up. Yeah, I'm 88 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: talking about me too, just and I you know country, 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: I was not a cowboy. I was more of a hillbilly. Yeah, 90 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: some would say a redneck even at times, just from 91 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: where I was. And so yeah, I never wore a cowboy. 92 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I won't wear a cowboy head now because I'm a 93 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: cowboy and I don't want to even act like I 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: was a cowboy ever. But when I first moved here, 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: but because I had done pop and hip hop and 96 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: sports and alternative, and it was like, well, you're not country, 97 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, why don't you come to the trailer 98 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: park in Arkansas? Tell me what I ain't? 99 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: You know? 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: We're all. 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I hate that for you, that not. 102 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Just for you, but you, the understood you of people 103 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: that are super talented, have a voice, an authentic message, 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and then you're told what you are and what you aren't. 105 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like and if you look at it, 106 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: I've now loved country music for more years than I haven't, 107 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, like I've loved it for more than half 108 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: of my life now, So. 109 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Well that'd be said too. If there's like a pop 110 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: star that is like struggling and they come over and 111 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: want to do country, I'm like, all right, I mean right, 112 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: But then there are some who love it, who come 113 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: over who like actually like like Diplo, Diplo loves country music. 114 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: He loves country. 115 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: It's not even his first Foray, into it, like with 116 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: what you have are doing together. 117 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: That man loves country music. It is a it's been 118 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: really fun to watch him. 119 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do country music, no, I guess 120 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: is my point. Sometimes they'll be like, and I don't 121 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: want to take a shot at him, like Brett Michaels 122 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: who was in Poison, who decided a lunch of country career, 123 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: who's super nice. Sure, but it's like you're doing a 124 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: country because the other stuff's not working new, so you're 125 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: gonna come. 126 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: Up that I don't love. 127 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 128 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I came here from Austin, I was killing it. 129 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 130 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I did not have to come here. Yeah, I wanted 131 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to come here. 132 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 133 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: And that I like that was me too, Like I 134 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: could have gone to LA, Like I really had thoughts 135 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: of like, if I'm gonna go more in a pop 136 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: direction artists wise, LA seems like the place to be. 137 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: But I was like, I want to write country songs. 138 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Whenever you said hey, I'm a country artist and you 139 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: started to talk to managers or publishers where. 140 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: They were like, uh, you got a dated dude. 141 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Can't date girls and country? Oh no No. 142 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: Also, like no one gave me the time of day. 143 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: Until Villain, So. 144 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: It was that just they didn't say that. 145 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I legit had never been contacted or answered by 146 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: a single person in town until I downloaded TikTok and. 147 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 5: Did it a little late. 148 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 4: I guess, not really in retrospect, but it's like twenty 149 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: twenty and I saw Priscilla and Janakis both get deals 150 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, I have good songs too, I'm 151 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: a download it. I feel too old for the app. 152 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: I was twenty seven at the time. I was like, 153 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm not dancing or anything like that, and I put 154 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: up every demo I had and one of them did 155 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: pretty well. I was coming over from Instagram with like 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: two thousand followers. 157 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: What was the one that did pretty well? They gave 158 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: you a little hope, but wasn't Villain. 159 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a song called two Lonely People. People 160 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: still comment and want it all the time, but it's 161 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: not happening. But where Kaya Marshall actually slid into my dms? 162 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: She was working, so she was working as a publisher 163 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: at BMG at the time. She also dated Seth England. 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: They now have a kid together and are engaged. But 165 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: little did I know she was trying to start her 166 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: own company. But I just saw her as like she 167 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: works at BMG, Holy cow, I can get a thirty 168 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year pub deal. She likes my voice 169 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: all this, and I went over to her house like 170 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: three days later, met Seth and we just listened through 171 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: fifteen songs, Villain being one of them, and I still 172 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: give them hell of this day that They were kind 173 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: of like, let's keep in touch, Like I don't think 174 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: the songs are there yet, but let's keep in touch. 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: And I was listening to that Matthew McConaughey book Green 176 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Lights while I was delivering groceries at the time, and 177 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: I was like, you want to know what this is 178 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: not a red light, this is a yellow light. I've 179 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: just got to post everything and I have to really 180 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: dive into this TikTok thing. And we posted Villain and 181 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: I think I got like thirteen million views in like 182 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: three videos in a week, which like no one had 183 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: done that yet in country. And Rakaya Marshall was my 184 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: first call. She was like, hey, you want to do 185 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: a fifty to fifty master deal to meet with some 186 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: record labels and get you a team together. 187 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: It was like absolutely, Hey, it's Amy Brown. 188 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: From Four Things with Amy Brown, and here's what we 189 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: talked about this week on my podcast. You know, divorce 190 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 6: is heartbreaking for any family, but it can be uniquely 191 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 6: brutal for the family of a megachurch pastor and my 192 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 6: guest Brandy Wilson is on telling her story of healing 193 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: and wants women to know that divorce is not the 194 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 6: end of their story and they will be better than Okay, yeah, I. 195 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 5: Think in doing that, I had three kids watching how 196 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: I was going to react or respond, and I did 197 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 5: a week at on Site, which is right outside of Nashville, 198 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 5: Cumberland Furnace, and one of the therapists there, Bill Loki, said, 199 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: your child's resilience is directly impacted by the way the 200 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: parent chooses to own their story, understand their story, and 201 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: communicate their story. So at that point, when I kept 202 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 5: saying like I got to take care of my kids 203 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: and myself, I realized that taking care of my kids 204 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: meant taking care of myself first. So could I own 205 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: my story what had happened to me, not deny it, 206 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 5: not avoid it, Like own this is what happened to me, 207 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: Understand it, unpack the patterns, the habit, the unhealthy habits 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 5: that had gotten me there, and then how can I 209 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 5: communicate what I'm learning about myself and then even practice 210 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 5: healthy communication in the other relationships that are in my life. 211 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: So that kind of gave me a roadmap of how 212 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: I wanted to be able to move forward, and it 213 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: was a lot of trial and error. I have not 214 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: always gotten it right, but that just allowed me to say, 215 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 5: if I'm going to take care of my kids and myself, 216 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: this is what it looks like to take care of 217 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: myself first. So, yeah, my kids have watched every step 218 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: of the way, as I've done lots of counseling and 219 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: therapy and yoga, And we were talking about Ali Fallon earlier. 220 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: They do a self care workshop that I think this year. 221 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: I went the first time they did it, and it's amazing, 222 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: And that was even part of my healing to realize 223 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: that I could change the neurologic pathways in my brain 224 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: to not hear the negative talk that I had been 225 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: experiencing for so long. 226 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 6: So which it directly impacted your self worth, directly. 227 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: Impacted my self worth and what I thought I was 228 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: capable of. 229 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 6: And you're capable of so much, and that's what's beautiful 230 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: to see is because I think that sometimes in certain relationships, 231 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: depending on the dynamic, if it's not a healthy dynamic, 232 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 6: then someone's stunted. 233 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: Right for sure, someone's totally stunted. And honestly, I was 234 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 5: very stunted because I was trying to function in an 235 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: unhealthy dynamic. I'm a two on the Enneagram, so I 236 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: don't know. I was just about to ask you your 237 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 5: two number. Okay, so you're a helper. Yes, I'm a helper. 238 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: So I'm really good at taking care of other people. 239 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: And I'm a great support system person and let me 240 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: cheer you on and let me show up and help 241 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 5: you out. And I think I'd spent so many years 242 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: doing that that I'd lost who I was. So honestly, 243 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 5: one of the biggest parts of my divorce and moving 244 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 5: forward was identity and figuring out who am I, What 245 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: do I want my life to look like? What does 246 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 5: it look like for me to think about dreaming again? 247 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: And instead of just supporting other people who were chasing 248 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: their dreams, began to chase some of my own. 249 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 6: What's almost like since your early twenties, Yes, you've not 250 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 6: just been you know, a wife, but you're a pastor's wife. Yes, yeah, 251 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 6: so that's a whole nother identity in itself. Just living 252 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 6: in a fish bowl amy and you know, just knowing 253 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 6: sometimes how your life is and then having to walk 254 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 6: through those double doors every Sunday yep, and being like 255 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 6: here we are. 256 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: Yes, stuff it all down, just to like simplify it. 257 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 5: I had three sons in five years, so three boys. 258 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: So by the time the third one was born, it's 259 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 5: like I had one that could hold my hand or 260 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: hold the stroller, one on my hip, and then the 261 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 5: baby and the stroller. And my goal was to get 262 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 5: to church on Sunday mornings without looking like I was 263 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 5: crazy because everyone was going in all these different directions. 264 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: So I remember just telling myself, if you can get 265 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: there and get into childcare and drop everyone off and 266 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 5: still look like you're saying, then that's a win. Because 267 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 5: everyone was watching. You knew as soon as I got 268 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 5: out of the car and I had the three blonde 269 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: haired boys, and everyone knew that you were married to 270 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: the pastor, and they're watching to see how things happen, 271 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: and lots of them are cheering you on. But at 272 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: the same time, you're just aware you're being watched, and 273 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: that's kind of an uncomfortable spot to be in. 274 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 6: How did the boys feel about your writing a book? 275 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: They were great about it, honestly, they cheered me on 276 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: My oldest he was one of the first people to 277 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: read it, and he read every page and called me 278 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 5: when he finished. He actually was so funny. He called 279 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: me midway and he was like, You've got some good 280 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: stuff in this dating chapter that I'm going to start remembering. 281 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, great, not sure how I feel about that, 282 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 5: but great. Then he called me at the end, and 283 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: the last story I tell is actually an interaction between 284 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: he and I that was really beautiful because I think 285 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: behind women asking am I going to be okay? Okay, 286 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 5: the second question they ask is will my kids be okay? 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: And I can tell you that I never ever wanted 288 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 5: divorce to be part of my personal story, nor did 289 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: I want it to be part of my kid's story. 290 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: I did not want it to be a journey that 291 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 5: they had to walk. And there's a lot of stress 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: in just trying to and we can never get it perfect, 293 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: but trying to do the best job that we can 294 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: raising our kids as we're grieving, as they're grieving as 295 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: we're figuring it out again, and super early on I 296 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: decided like I wanted to redefine family, like nothing was missing. 297 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 5: We were now a unit of four. My sons are 298 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 5: currently twenty two, nineteen, and seventeen, and we were this 299 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: unit of four that I referred to as US four. 300 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 5: But we were having to refigure out how our family functioned. 301 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 5: I chose to sell my house that I had lived 302 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 5: in for twelve years, bought a new house for us, 303 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: started creating new memories with the four of us, new 304 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 5: tradition around the holidays, and just really focused. I don't 305 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: even know that I said it out loud as much 306 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: as I was just aware as a mom one of 307 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: my goals was to redefine family like nothing was missing. 308 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: And a couple of years ago, I was speaking at 309 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: a conference out west and my oldest son is in 310 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 5: college at Birmingham, and he had said, can I watch 311 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: you your talk? I was like sure, so I sent 312 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: him the link so he could stream it. And in 313 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 5: that talk, I actually revisit a moment when the four 314 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 5: of us were at the beach together and we're sitting 315 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: by a fire outside at the beach and we just 316 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: had this really wonderful week, just the four of us 317 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: on vacation, like family vacation US with one mom and 318 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: single mom and three kids, and studying by that fire 319 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: and just realizing like I did it. We did it, 320 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: We redefined family and nothing is missing. We don't go 321 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: on this trip and think like, oh, this would be 322 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: better if we go on this trip and enjoy being together, 323 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: the four of us. So I'm retelling story and I 324 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: say like, I didn't want divorce to be part of 325 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 5: my story. I didn't want to be part of my 326 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: kid's story. However, at this point in my life, I 327 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: wouldn't change anything. I love where we are, I love 328 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 5: who we are as a family. And when I wrapped 329 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: up that talk, I went backstage to the green room 330 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: and I picked up my phone and I had like 331 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: seven text messages from my oldest son and they were 332 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: super sweet. It was like, I like the outfit you 333 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: have on and that joke was funny, and the audience 334 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: they're loving you. And then I got to the last 335 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: two text messages. I have goosebumps every time I talk 336 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: about it. But the last two text messages said I 337 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 5: couldn't agree more. And then the last one said I 338 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: wouldn't change our lives for anything. And I think just 339 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: to know that my kids recognize that we went through 340 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: a lot together and we chose to allow that to 341 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 5: bring us together rather than push us apart. And we're 342 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: actually cemented together. 343 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 7: You know. 344 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: I would say initially, I keep my nest really tight 345 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: because we had been through so much. I was super protective. 346 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: And we've been able to expand our nest and let 347 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: other people close to our family, and that feels good too. 348 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 5: So I think to have made it through what we 349 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: went through as a family unit. Man, I'm just super 350 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: grateful that they recognize that it took a lot of 351 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: work from all of us to be able to redefine 352 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: family like nothing was missing. 353 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 8: Let's do a live we are the world were sore losers? 354 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. 355 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 9: I know the most about sports, so I'll give you 356 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 9: the sports facts, my sports opinions because I'm pretty much 357 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 9: a sports genius. 358 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: What up, y'all? Had hiscison, I'm from the North. I'm 359 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: in Alpha Male. 360 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 8: I live on the West side of Nashville with Baser, 361 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 8: my wife. We do have have a white picket fence 362 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 8: at the apartment complex. Soon I'm gonna have two point 363 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 8: five kids, and yes, sadly, I will die of a 364 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 8: heart attack when I'm seventy two years old. Here's a 365 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 8: clip from the last podcast. But because golf is all 366 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 8: about getting under the ball, gracefully, taking the ball with 367 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 8: your club and throwing it in front of you, it's 368 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 8: not too far, not too short, just right, Jim Nantz CBS. 369 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 9: And here's a great thing about Brian Harmon. That dude 370 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 9: could go to publics today and no one know who 371 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 9: the hell he is. Dude, yeah, no one would know 372 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 9: who he is. Like he could just wear a hat, 373 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 9: a T shirt and shorts go to the damn publics 374 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 9: and not a dang person would bother him. And he 375 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 9: just won the Open championship. 376 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 8: And those other guys, I'm not gonna name the sites, 377 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 8: but they dig up the crap about their wife. Next thing, 378 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 8: you know, his chicks pictures all over the internet. 379 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't see that. 380 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 8: I'd never even seen what she looks like. And they go, 381 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 8: who is Katie May Jane? Oh great, thanks for the 382 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 8: bikini photo. I mean, just because the guy wins, all 383 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 8: of a sudden, she's everywhere. 384 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 9: I would assume that she was there. I was assumed 385 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 9: she was there and they probably kissed on the green, 386 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 9: but I didn't watch it, so I don't know. 387 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 8: I quit watching the fourteenth. 388 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 9: So usually the you know, the wife comes out at 389 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 9: the end and they kiss and then she's thrust in 390 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 9: the spotlight because oh, here's Brian Harman. 391 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: Here's Brian Harmon's wife. So I don't know. I don't. 392 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: That doesn't bother me as much. 393 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, if I'm winning one of those things, my wife, kids, 394 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 8: family ain't there because I'm gonna reverse jinx. It ain't 395 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 8: no way I'm bringing my family there. I'll be there 396 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 8: just snapping one off by myself. 397 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 9: But maybe the family comes to every tournament. Yeah, maybe 398 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 9: the wife comes and goes shopping or it gives you 399 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 9: some normalcy so you're not just pulled up in your 400 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 9: hotel by yourself in your room and just like thinking 401 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 9: about it. With your wife there, your you can take 402 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 9: your mind off things. But maybe they have kids. I 403 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 9: don't know if they have kids. 404 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 8: What patience and what beautiful wives to go and watch 405 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 8: their husband golf? Would your wife ever come and watch 406 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 8: you golf? 407 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: No? Does your wife couldn't watch you golf? 408 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 8: Oh she's come before, Hey, would you hurry up? 409 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 7: Hey? 410 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 8: Seriously, though, let's get to the clubhouse. We gotta go 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 8: do happy hours, coach. It's I'm like, Sweetie, Baser, the 412 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 8: two things in golf you can't have is impatience and 413 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 8: impatience it totally throws off my entire swing. 414 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 9: Also, you know what you can't have in golf, honey, 415 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 9: is talking. Like golf is a quiet sport. You see, 416 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 9: when that guy's about to hit, you're not allowed to 417 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 9: talk in his backswing. Hey, you know how you're watching 418 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 9: TikTok on your phone, not in my backswing. 419 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 8: Did One of the bigger fights that we got into 420 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 8: is on the golf course, so we ran, we ran here. 421 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: It was her. 422 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 8: It was kind of windy out and she felt the 423 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 8: storm was gonna be there now, and I knew it 424 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 8: wasn't coming for about twenty minutes, and so I'm trying 425 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 8: to hit and she goes, would you please hurry in 426 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 8: my back swing with the hybrid? 427 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: What do you think I did? Yeah? 428 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 8: I shanked apotomist it one hundred yards to the left, 429 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 8: And I'm like, I literally that's virtually it was a 430 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 8: hard swing already, but with Utah talking with the wind. Yeah, 431 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 8: my ball's now on number seven. I mean, good God. 432 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 8: So so she's like, what are you doing, Like we 433 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 8: paid to play this, you can't she get that bad storm. 434 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 8: And I'm like, the storm isn't here yet. We paid 435 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 8: a significant money. Let me hit the shot. And then 436 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 8: we're in a bad mood. And so then I go 437 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 8: to do the next shot, and what do you know, 438 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 8: I'd hit another bad one because I was being rushed. 439 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 8: And then we go to the clubhouse. We're in a 440 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 8: bad mood. We didn't go out to dinner after that, 441 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 8: all because wife was watching golf. Blessed Brian Harmon and 442 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 8: all the wives that do watch golf. 443 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 9: I also find it interesting when I go to the 444 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 9: driving range, and I saw this the other day. A 445 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 9: dude's girlfriend sat on the bench and watched him at 446 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 9: the driving range. Bleuss her like not not reading a book, 447 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 9: not on her phone, didn't have EarPods in like where 448 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 9: she's listening to a podcast, so she losers. 449 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: She literally was sitting on the. 450 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 9: Bench watching this dude hit golf balls at the driving range. 451 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 8: And that's a dutiful wife. Much like this the wife 452 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: at the sportsbook that goes to the sports book with 453 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 8: her guy. That's being a dutiful wife. 454 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: Not dutiful. 455 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 9: My question is, does she have nothing she can do 456 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 9: besides sit there and watch him hit golf balls at 457 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 9: the driving range? What does she get out of watching 458 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 9: him hit golf balls at the driving range. She didn't 459 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 9: hit any golf balls. She didn't get up and swing 460 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 9: the club. She didn't have any entertainment. Is there any 461 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 9: entertainment value in it for her to sit there and 462 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 9: watch her dude hit golf balls at the driving range. 463 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 8: Spending time together, But five feet away is middle management 464 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 8: guy that's one hundred pounds overweight and his guts hanging out. 465 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 9: She was the supervisor a making sure is this like, oh, 466 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 9: maybe he cheated on me before when he said he 467 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 9: was going to the driving range, So we're gonna go 468 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 9: make sure he's going to the driving range. So every 469 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 9: time he says driving range, she has to go to 470 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 9: make sure he goes to the driving range. But then 471 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 9: maybe he's giving her a swing every five No, she 472 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 9: never swung the club. 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: See then that's amazing. What a beautiful woman. 474 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 9: But do you want like, I don't think I would 475 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 9: want my wife to say I don't think I would 476 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 9: go to my wife and be like, hey, honey, you 477 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 9: know what, You're not doing anything right now? Would you 478 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 9: like to go sitting on the bench in the ninety 479 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 9: three degree heat and watch me hit golf balls? Oh yeah, 480 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 9: that sounds like fun. Then when my wife is sitting 481 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 9: there just doing nothing, not on her phone, not listening 482 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 9: to a podcast, not reading a book, just staring at 483 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 9: me hit golf balls, guess what I'm gonna feel. 484 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Rushed. 485 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 9: I'm going to feel the pressure to hurry up and 486 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 9: get done with the driving range because my wife is 487 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 9: having zero percent fun, zero percent enjoyment, zero percent entertainment. 488 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 9: She doesn't know what the hell is going on. She 489 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 9: doesn't want to be there. She is dripping sweat like 490 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 9: a in church on a Sunday. So I don't understand 491 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 9: why a like I get maybe a little bit like 492 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 9: your wife riding in the golf cart with you, because 493 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 9: you're actually spending time together, and we. 494 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 8: Would sneak in a swing if there's not a marshall. 495 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: Right, And she can drive the cart, she can have 496 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: some fun, she can. 497 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 8: Talk no no, no, no, not drive the cart. 498 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: That led to another fight? 499 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 8: What did that lead to a fight? She'll never find 500 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 8: she never finds the ball. She doesn't know how to 501 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 8: go towards it. And Dodd got in this with me too. 502 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 8: DoD agrees that it's very difficult because we're used to 503 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 8: driving the cart and finding our ball. With your wife 504 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 8: driving it throws off exactly how you would drive the 505 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 8: cart to the ball, and it leads to losing at 506 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 8: least fifty percent more balls. Dodd agrees with me on 507 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 8: this one. 508 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 9: I can also see how you're like over there, over there, 509 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 9: over there, over there, and it's like you have to 510 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 9: be a back seat driver. You don't want to be 511 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 9: a back seat driver. It's brutal, so you put in 512 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 9: the passenger seat, yes, and. 513 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 8: Then then she's not having any fun and you're getting rushed. 514 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 9: So I would like And maybe I don't understand it. 515 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 9: Maybe I don't get the point of the wife or 516 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 9: girlfriend going to the golf course if they're not gonna play, 517 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 9: don't I don't get the driving range. I can see 518 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 9: riding in the golf cart maybe being fun, but I 519 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 9: feel like it's more of like, okay, I'll do this, 520 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 9: like and it may be fun for a couple holes, 521 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 9: but is it really fun? I mean for eighteen holes, 522 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 9: which is about four hours after about hour one? Is 523 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 9: she still enjoying herself or is it like, oh my god, 524 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 9: I wish this guy would hurry up. And then you 525 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 9: feel the pressure. Your golf game goes to crap. Then 526 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 9: you're in a bad mood and you're not and you're 527 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 9: in a bad mood because you felt like she was 528 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 9: rushing you. She doesn't, no, no, let's just take your time. 529 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 9: And then you're mad because your golf score is bad. 530 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 9: Then the day is ruined, and then it's like, why 531 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 9: did I even play golf? 532 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: Anni? 533 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 8: Did you meet Arnold Palmer? I had five Arnold Palmers. 534 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 8: He was in the club house. Did you not see 535 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 8: him at Butler Cabin? Hey? 536 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 7: Hey, hey you guys, it's Caroline Hobby. I am so 537 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 7: excited to introduce you to this clip with Mobi, the 538 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 7: one word legend, Moby. When your name is one word, 539 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: you know you are like on a level all of 540 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 7: your own. MOBI is so passionate about animal rights. He 541 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 7: has it tattooed on his arms. He's using his entire 542 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 7: platform to help change the animal food industry and give 543 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 7: animals more rights. It is so profound to hear what 544 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 7: he has to say and how he became a superstar accidentally. 545 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 7: He never planned on being a superstar. His story is 546 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 7: phenomenal and he also has on the podcast with him. 547 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 7: I talk with Lindsay Hicks, his partner in crime, on 548 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 7: his new podcast, The Mobi Pod, which is so awesome. 549 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: Lindsay produced the first movie about Mobi and then they 550 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 7: realize they have so much in common that they need 551 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 7: to talk about all the time that they formed a podcast, 552 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 7: the Movie Pod. So check it out. It is such 553 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 7: a great interview. You will be enlightened and it's just 554 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 7: awesome to hear from the one and Only movie. I 555 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 7: am so impressed with what you guys are doing because 556 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: y'all are so so so deeply rooted in your calling 557 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 7: to protect animals and the environment and movie especially for 558 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 7: being a superstar. It's like I've interviewed a lot of 559 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 7: famous people and a lot of stars, and people are 560 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 7: so many wonderful people doing huge things of their platform 561 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 7: and following their dreams and their callings like you have. 562 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 7: But you are one of those people who music is 563 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 7: just like I just feel like you are music. That 564 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 7: is who you are, that is your innate being. But 565 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: it's like you say this too, like your actual calling. 566 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 7: You're so talented at music, you're a worldwide legend, but 567 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 7: you're true calling and heart is animal saving animals and 568 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 7: like being a voice for animals, and that's not always 569 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 7: the case with superstars, you know, and I feel like 570 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 7: you it put you in a whole different league and mindset. 571 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 10: Well, it's funny because for a while I really wanted 572 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 10: to be as selfish as I possibly could. 573 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: And what did that look like? 574 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 10: Well, in early two thousands, because I had never expected 575 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 10: to have a career as a musician. I thought I 576 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 10: was going to be a philosophy professor really and make 577 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 10: music in my spare time that maybe someone would listen to. 578 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 10: But for the most part, I thought I was going 579 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 10: to be an obscure musician who never had any success. 580 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 10: And then in the nineties into the two thousands, I 581 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 10: started having surprising levels of success. 582 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 7: You weren't trying to find it, you weren't trying to 583 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 7: get it. It just happened. 584 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, just I never expected it for a second, and 585 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 10: all of a sudden, you know, like my most successful 586 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 10: album play I recorded in my bedroom, and you know, 587 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 10: the first show I did on the tour for that 588 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 10: album was to thirty people in the basement of a 589 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 10: record store, and then it just kept selling and selling 590 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 10: twelve million copies, which is sort of unprecedented for a 591 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 10: record that you make in your bedroom. 592 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 7: Why do you think it resonated? What? What connected? 593 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 10: The only thing I can think of is that it 594 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 10: stood out from everything else because no one else was 595 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 10: making records in their bedroom that way like it everyone else, 596 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 10: like you know, whether it was the Backstreet Boys or 597 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 10: Brittany or the eminem or Limp Biscuit, Like everyone was 598 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 10: spending millions of dollars going into huge studios and I 599 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 10: made a very sort of intimate, low fi record in 600 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 10: my bedroom. And somehow I think that that ethos, that 601 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 10: approach made it to stay out to people. But then 602 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 10: what happened to your question? I kind of and I'm 603 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 10: a little ashamed of this, but I actually learned a 604 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 10: lot from it. I bought into that world. Is like 605 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 10: going to red carpet events and you know, at one 606 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 10: point having my own tour bus with an assistant who's 607 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 10: pretty much only job was to throw parties for me, Like, 608 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 10: I went fully down the selfish rabbit hole. 609 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 7: But you know what, why not try it when you 610 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 7: had the access of it? Being available. You know, it's 611 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 7: not like you were doing anything wrong to have that 612 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 7: kind of lifestyle. It just was what was unfolding. I 613 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: don't think there's anything wrong with trying it if you're 614 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 7: not harming yourself until you realize maybe you are. 615 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 10: Yeah. And also I made the mistake that so many 616 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 10: of us make is I thought that externalities could fix 617 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 10: my issues right right right, you know. I thought that 618 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 10: the love of one hundred thousand people in a stadium 619 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 10: was going to that was going to be the love 620 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 10: that I needed. That good reviews in a magazine was 621 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 10: the validation I needed that, you know, And not surprisingly, 622 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 10: it didn't work, and I kept bottoming out and bottoming out, 623 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 10: doing more drugs, drinking more. And in two thousand and 624 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 10: eight I finally got sober and I was reading an 625 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 10: interview with the Dali Lama that annoyed me so much 626 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 10: because he was talking and I'm not a Buddhist, I'm 627 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 10: not really, I'm just a I don't know what my 628 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 10: belief system is. But he talked about the importance of service, 629 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 10: and I started hearing people in twelve step meetings saying 630 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 10: the same thing, like you have to be of service, 631 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 10: and that idea irritated me so much because I didn't 632 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 10: want to be of service. I wanted to be selfish. 633 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 10: But if I looked at the evidence, I realized that 634 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 10: my selfishness was paradoxically not making me happy. 635 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 7: Wow, that's some deep thinking, that's some deep diving. 636 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 10: But it was also just the evidence was so overwhelming, 637 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 10: you know, like I kept buying fancier things, and I 638 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 10: kept going to fancier places and ironing fancier people. And 639 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 10: the more I spent, the more I partied, the more 640 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 10: I tried to be selfish, the less happy I was. 641 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 10: And I was like, oh, huh, I guess that doesn't work. 642 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 10: Maybe it would work for someone else, but it didn't 643 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 10: work for me. 644 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 7: And so. 645 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 10: My sorry for the long winded answer, but the question 646 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 10: and becaing. You know, if the selfishness, the materialism and 647 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 10: the selfishness simply wasn't making me happy, what do I do? 648 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 10: And I just thought, Okay, let me try to be 649 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 10: of service, let me try to have values that are 650 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 10: hopefully not selfish. And the irony the paradox is by 651 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 10: pursuing activism, by pursuing you know, animal rights activism, climate activism, 652 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 10: that activism makes me so much happier than degenerate selfishness 653 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 10: ever did. 654 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 7: I would love to hear your take on this, Lindsay, 655 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 7: because you're so deeply rooted in like you're you're a 656 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 7: producer and an actor right in a creative Yeah, you 657 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 7: produced his movie, his movie? Is that how y'all met? 658 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 659 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 11: No, We've been friends for years and a few years 660 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 11: ago I was I was working at a kind of 661 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 11: big TV production company and during the pandemic, I was 662 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 11: having this conversation with Moby of I want to do 663 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 11: work where I feel like it it matters in a 664 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 11: bigger way, where it moves the needle toward a world 665 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 11: where less people are hurting animals every day, where everyone 666 00:32:47,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 11: is making decisions that make for a more sustainable planet. 667 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 12: Hey, it's Mike d from The Bobby Bone Show, and 668 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 12: I have a podcast called Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. If 669 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 12: you're like me and love movies, I would love it 670 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 12: if you check it out. I give you spoiler free 671 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 12: movie reviews, movie history topics, and I keep you up 672 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 12: to date on what's coming out in theaters and streaming. 673 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: But right now, here are my thoughts on Barbie. 674 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 12: This was one of my top ten most anticipated movies 675 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 12: of the summer. I think the reason is because it's 676 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 12: from one of my favorite directors right now, Greta Gerwick. 677 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 12: And really, there are only a handful of directors that, 678 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 12: in their first few films know exactly what they want 679 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 12: to say and how they want to say it, and 680 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 12: are perfectly able to execute all the elements when it 681 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 12: comes to just filmmaking at its finest, and Greta Gerwick 682 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 12: is one of them. So I just knew that this 683 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 12: was going to be a movie that we weren't expecting, 684 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 12: and that's exactly what it is, because all I really 685 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 12: knew going into this movie is that it's going to 686 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 12: be about Barbie having an existential crisis forcing her to 687 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 12: leave Barbie World and go into the real world. And 688 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 12: I am glad that is all I knew, because somehow 689 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 12: this movie was nothing what I was expecting, but yet 690 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 12: everything I wanted. And I want to start first with 691 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 12: my theater experience. The lobby was a sea of pink 692 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 12: and you could feel the electricity. Even myself and my 693 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 12: wife Kelsey, we got all dressed up like I wore pink. 694 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 12: This pink shirt I'm wearing now, I wore pink shoes. 695 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 12: My wife wore her pink blazer, and I thought to 696 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 12: myself as we were eating dinner before the movie, are 697 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 12: we gonna look like, you know, losers going to watch 698 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 12: this movie because we get so excited that. 699 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: We wanted to dress up. 700 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 12: But almost everybody in the theater was dressed in some 701 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 12: form of pink, and that just made it feel like 702 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 12: much more of an event and like a bonding experience, 703 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 12: one that I haven't experienced in all of my years 704 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 12: of going to movies, not in a Marvel movie, not 705 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 12: in a DC movie, not in any legacy action movie. 706 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 12: This was something truly unique. So I think, aside from 707 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 12: the movie, this is gonna be a moment that we 708 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 12: remember in cinema forever. I'm always gonna remember the day 709 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 12: I went to see Barbie and this entire weekend, Barbie 710 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 12: Oppenheimer Weekend is something we needed in film, and Barbie 711 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 12: is what we needed right now. So I was all 712 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 12: in and invested in this movie. And from the very beginning, 713 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 12: this movie just grabbed me in a way that I 714 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 12: wasn't expecting. And very few times now when I go 715 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 12: watch a movie do I get fully immersed in every 716 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 12: aspect of it. And allow myself to just lose myself 717 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 12: in the movie going experience. This was one of them. 718 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 12: Once we were in Barbie world, I was fully transformed 719 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 12: and living in that world. And I loved it because 720 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 12: Greta Gerwig DIDs such a great job nailing every single 721 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 12: aspect from the fashion, the music, the set design. This 722 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 12: movie is gonna win all the Oscars when it comes 723 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 12: to set design and fashion, like that's just a given. 724 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 2: I don't think that's me going out on a limb 725 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: saying that. 726 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 12: There's just so much attention to detail that is just 727 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 12: mind blowing to me. And I experienced something in this 728 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 12: movie that doesn't really happen to me very often, because 729 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 12: I didn't get all the references to all the Barbies, 730 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 12: and I had to look over to my wife who 731 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 12: was laughing at things that I didn't fully get because 732 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 12: I didn't grow up playing with Barbies, but after watching 733 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 12: this movie, I wish I would have. 734 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: So I think there were things in this movie. 735 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 12: That were so much geared towards true Barbie fans who 736 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 12: played with him as a kid. I felt like when 737 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 12: we went to go watch the Super Mario Brothers movie 738 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 12: and I was laughing at some of the references to 739 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 12: all these video games and looking over to my wife 740 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 12: and it wasn't really doing anything for her because she 741 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 12: didn't grow up playing Super Mario like I did. 742 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: The script was turned here. 743 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 12: So aside from that of not getting some of the references, 744 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 12: this movie was really funny. 745 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: It's very smart comedy, and. 746 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 12: I feel like it takes a little bit of time 747 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 12: to get used to it and realize that the movie 748 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 12: is in on the joke. And I think people just 749 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 12: have different tastes when it comes to comedy. You listening 750 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 12: to this now are gonna find something funny that I 751 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 12: probably don't find funny. So I think it's so hard 752 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 12: to make a comedy right now that you don't really 753 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 12: go into comedies anymore and just. 754 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: Ah, laugh like crazy. That doesn't happen anymore. 755 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 12: And I really think that only happens when you're a 756 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 12: teenager or a kid. So I think adults who have 757 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 12: expectations of going to a movie and just laughing NonStop 758 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 12: like that's not going to happen. You have to go 759 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 12: see some stand up comedy for that. What comedies have 760 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 12: to do now is have a unique perspective and be 761 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 12: so good at the writing and have actors who can 762 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 12: deliver it effortlessly, and you almost have to be in 763 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 12: on it a little bit. So this is a metacomedy. 764 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 12: It's very aware of itself. So for those reasons, once 765 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 12: you allow yourself to get into the style of it, 766 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 12: you have to fully immerse yourself and want to be 767 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 12: a part of it for it to be funny to you. 768 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 12: But in our theater people were laughing NonStop, and I 769 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 12: think that also helped for me to find it more funny, 770 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 12: because when you go see a comedy like this and 771 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 12: experience it with other people and hear what other people 772 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 12: are laughing at, sometimes it heightens it a little bit. 773 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 12: So if you wait to watch this movie streaming, you 774 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 12: may think, what exactly is this? 775 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: What did people see in this movie? You got to 776 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 2: experience it with people. 777 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 12: I think that is the same with comedies and also 778 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 12: with horror movies. Sometimes you can watch a good horror 779 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 12: movie at home and still be scared. But there's something 780 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 12: about going to see a comedy and a horror movie 781 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 12: in theaters that just adds to the experience and makes 782 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 12: maybe things that aren't as funny a little bit more funny, 783 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 12: makes things that are actually funny, hilarious. So same thing 784 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 12: with horror, same thing with comedy. Go watch it in 785 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 12: the theater and get the full experience. And I think 786 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 12: the reason this movie was so important for me to 787 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 12: see as a guy is it was a great commentary 788 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 12: on what women have to go through and face every 789 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 12: single day. The different things that apply to women that 790 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 12: don't apply to men, That things men are able to 791 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 12: get away with that women aren't, and all of the 792 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 12: battles and things that women have to go through. 793 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: There's such a great. 794 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 12: Monologue from America Ferreira in this, one of the best 795 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 12: monologues in the last ten years. 796 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: I would say you don't really get. 797 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 12: Monologues in movies anymore, but this one was so impactful 798 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 12: that every single line in her monologue hit it all 799 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 12: made a really great statement. So again, the writing in 800 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 12: this was just excellent, So I think that scene alone 801 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 12: needs to win an award. There is a line in 802 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 12: this movie I related with so much, Barbie just saying you, guys, 803 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 12: ever think about death, which just comes out of nowhere 804 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 12: because she is such a bright and positive person, but 805 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 12: yet she's struggling with the idea of death and us 806 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 12: as humans. I feel like sometimes we mask those things 807 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 12: we are actually feeling. It's easier to just smile and 808 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 12: fake it until you make it, but deep down inside 809 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 12: you could be feeling like the worst. And when she 810 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 12: said that line and how everybody reacted it, sometimes how 811 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 12: I feel like sometimes I just have those dark thoughts 812 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 12: that you don't know what is going on, and it's 813 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 12: so easy to just kind of fake a smile and 814 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 12: you know, move on with your life, and that ends 815 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 12: up being what forces Barbie to leave Barbie Land and 816 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 12: go figure out why this is happening to her. So, 817 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 12: like I said, I was fully immersed in the barb world, 818 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 12: and by the end of the movie I didn't want 819 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 12: to leave it. So not only did it meet every 820 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 12: single one of my expectations, but it set the bar 821 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 12: for movies for the rest of the year. For me, 822 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 12: I'm not gonna soon forget this movie. So for Barbie, 823 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 12: I give it a rare perfect score. It is five 824 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 12: out of five Barbie dream Houses. 825 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. 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