1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, Hello guys. I would just like to say 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: that I got a lot of people that were very 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: supportive of your dream. Yep, and I can't And what 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: if I told you I reached out to Applebee's. I'm 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: kidding on a date. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: So we went from Bricktops to Appleby's all you loved it? 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Did you have you been at Applebe's before? 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Like? 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Have you? I'm Applebee San? Have you waitressed? Have not? Okay, 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: So Friday's Macaroni girlshot to say, keep a job, you 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: are definitely a Joe's crabshot with the coordinated dancy waitress 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: and then get fired. That'd be great. A lot of 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: people wrote to me and said that they'd like you 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: to be a celebrity singing waitress, apparently sending just said. 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Results on the Instagram polls, fifty five percent of people 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: think you should waitress. What are the other forty five language? 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: But I did talk to my therapists about it, Okay, 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: we had a lovely conversation. I brought up kind of 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: what you said too about mourning the loss of freedom 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: and just she had said something to me too, and 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: a lot of people were like, I pick up one 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: day just to go bartend because it's like my own time. 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: And I told Amy, it's not about actually waitressing, even 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: though yes, I very much enjoyed it, but it was 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: just we know you have a deep passion. 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: I really do, but. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: It was to help other people. And so we have 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: come up with a game plan of what to do, 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: which I will roll out eventually, but I'm working on 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: it and she's helping me with it. So I'm very excited. 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: But it'll be a way to help other people, not 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: in a restaurant, but people that are more aligned with 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: who I want to help. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Yeah, so not that I'm totally 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: against the waitressing, but. 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Like you just wanted to make fun of me. That 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: was she just wanted to be a client. 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I did not want to make of you. 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a client, and she did to 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: be like I'll take this and I'll take this. 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: She's like this, I want No, I said, I wanted 43 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: that without you. He said like, no, you didn't. 44 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: And I would literally never actually do that at a restaurant. So, 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: even though that might be surprising, literally would hate to 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: do that. 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Get with you. 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 4: I would do it for sure, totally so supportive. 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would not wait on a legitimately he 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: would legitimately. I forget what Alan hates. I'm always like 51 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: Elan tomatoes, right, and he's like, I love tomatoes, and 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm like that's not a good accent. Okay. So we 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: have something that I want to discuss. What shouldn't. I 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: just wanted to bring it up. 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: Uh. 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Jolie came home. By the way, this is a if 57 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: you're listening around children under fifth grade, just turn me 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: down for the next five minutes. That's a good warning. Yes. 59 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: So Jolie comes home from school and she's like, Mommy, 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: can I talk to you for a second. I'm like, okay, 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: of course, absolutely. So I was like, we're going to 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: jump in, you know, like go in the room or whatever. 63 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: She goes and the Jason was fall She's like, jac 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: you can't be in here. And I was like, oh, 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, she's probably tell me she has a boyfriend 66 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: or something. You know, they're the third grade, like something's 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: going on. So Jace, you know, went into the room. 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, go clo your little cars 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: or whatever, and Jolie goes, Mommy, I was talking to 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: this girl at lunch. I will not name her name 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: if she told me the name, but just out of respect, 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: it won't say her name. We're not going to blast her. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Anti Kristin to Anti Kristen is feeling like I'm blowing 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: up the Michigan. I can feel it rising. I was like, 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: I really want to, I won't. So I was like, okay, 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: what did she say? She's like, she said that Santa 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: is not real. I knew this was coming, and she goes, 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: so is it true, mommy? Is Santa not real? And 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: I just stared at her and I was like, what 80 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: do you believe? What do you think? Because in my mind, 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: it's not time for her not to know that Santa's 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: not real. I think I would agree fifth grade and above. 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Personally for me, I think third grade is too young. Personally, 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I would endorse that as well. So I just trying 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: to turn the question around in her and I just 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: said what do you believe? And she said yeah, and 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: I said yes. I was like and I was starting 88 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: to like stumble over words. I was like, yes, Santa 89 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: is real, and a part of me was like, okay, 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: but I don't want to lie to her in this. 91 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: So what I did was this is how I I 92 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: concocted the thing I said, but I do want to 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: have a conversation around it. She goes because she also 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: said that magic isn't real, and I was like ooh. 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: I was like, baby, the magic of Christmas is like 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: the most beautiful time. And she's like, but I mean 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: the Easter Bunny isn't real. And I was like, one 98 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: hundred percent not real. Oh. I was like, okay, no, 99 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: so I cause she's like, mommy, like a bunny jumping around. 100 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: I was like, one thousand percent that's not real. And 101 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: she's like, in the Tooth Fairy isn't real either, is it? 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: And I was like no, baby, oh wow. So she 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: got those two because I'm like and on my I'm like, 104 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: how can I tell my? Then your daughter almost that 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: like the bunny, like there's not a big bunny hopping in. 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: So I was like, but we're still going to make 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: it fun for Jason Roman. So she's like absolutely, But 108 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: I did adult like age her into the like bunny 109 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: and the tooth Fairy because she just lost a tooth too, 110 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: and she's like, mommy or the tooth fairy and I 111 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: was like, well, that still hasn't caught on to me. 112 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: I think or love is the kind of personality actually 113 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: that would have caught on. But protecting, Yeah, she just 114 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: would keep going, Uh, you. 115 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: Want my opinion on all of it? 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Sure, Well, this coming from a mom who's both of 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: my older kids at nine. 118 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: Figured it out. 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I think there is something about that age and I don't. 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I will completely disagree with you in this sense that 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's an age. 122 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a grade. I don't think it's a. 123 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm just personally not ready for I think I will either. Yeah, 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: but I don't. 125 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Think, in my opinion, there's a too young. I think 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: it depends on the kid. Like Ramsey's eight, I don't 127 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: foresee her necessarily at nine. But at the same time, 128 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I did the same thing, well do you believe that 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: he is real? And both of my kids said no, 130 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't, and I said, okay, maybe I did differently, 131 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: she said, and I was the same way. I didn't 132 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: want to lie, so I said, well, what do you believe? 133 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: And both of them, in those situations says he's not real, 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, and then we had a 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: conversation and then now they helped me with Christmas Eve 136 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: and all the things. But there's something about that age 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: and it's and maybe it will be this year for Ramsey. 138 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's very much something about that age, school, 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: all the things that it just seems to be pretty 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: consistent for us. 141 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: So we went through it in kindergarten. Oh wow, that's 142 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: really real, huh. And we're into Jesus School and they 143 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: said they're truth tellers. And she came home and was like, 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: so and so said, and I will not name names. 145 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: Santa isn't real. And I said, well, that's really interesting. 146 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that, you know, because it's 147 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: like you're in kindergarten. Yeah. So I actually addressed our group, 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: our class because I thought, and I I don't remember 149 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: how I put it, but I simply said, there was 150 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: very little magic in my life growing up, and Santo 151 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: was something that I could believe in and felt like magic. Yeah, 152 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: and I am preserving that in our home. And so 153 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: if you have truth tellers, I would kindly ask that 154 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: they have a certain responsibility in their truth. 155 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, and that was another thing I said to I 156 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: was like, it is not your jobs to ever say 157 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: this to other children. And another thing is like some 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: kids like me for instance, growing up, like you just 159 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: never said anything to your parents. You just kept on 160 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: going about as But if you have the type of kids, 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, they don't want to talk to you 162 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: about it and want to have a conversation. That's where 163 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: it was very important to me to not lie about 164 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: it and to just if they didn't believe, allow them 165 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: to not because they actually wanted to have the conversation 166 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: with me, which isn't always the case. 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: I think if she would have said no, then maybe 168 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: it would have been different conversation. But in the meantime, though, 169 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: what I did do is when she had said yes, 170 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: I go, Can I just have a one second to 171 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: try and gather my thoughts? I called Pam and I 172 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: was like, does heart Because I'm like, maybe this is 173 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: the right age, I don't know. She's like, no, no, 174 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: too young. So that's what she said to me. I 175 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: was like, all right, I agree, I'm calling like me back, 176 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, you call her reckon because I'm like, maybe 177 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to keep her young Like these I just. 178 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Don't think it has to do necessarily with like a 179 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: certain age, different kids are different, and you know, this 180 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: is when they start talking about it though, So I'll 181 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: be interested to see when it gets over to Harlow 182 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: how she handles it. 183 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: She's smart though, I mean they're all smart, you know, 184 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 185 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I just think that someone like Carlo shan't gonna say anything. Yeah, yeah, 186 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Love probably wouldn't either. 187 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: She has Love asks really specific questions and I answer 188 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: them to the best of my ability. Yeah, but I'm 189 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: also like, I'm not gonna lie to her either. Yeah, 190 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: but we don't sit on this lap. There's no like, 191 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things about it, and we do 192 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: believe in the tooth fairy, and I think she might 193 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: be skeptical of that Easter bunny. But yeah, changing complete 194 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: gears right now. Uh. There is a new Housewives or 195 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: is it new or is it? Have you watched given 196 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: watch it? I don't even know what it is. The 197 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: it's newer, I know that, yes, real how Wives of Dubai. 198 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: So let's get Caroline Stanbury on the show. 199 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: Hello, nice to see you all. 200 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Nice to see you. I'm Jan and this is Kat 201 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: and Kristen. 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: Hi. 203 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Where are you currently at are you in Dubai. 204 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: I'm in Dubai, sitting in my bedroom closet where I 205 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 5: have my podcast. 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: Is it fabulous Dubai? I've never been? You love to go? 207 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: I hear it just smells great, smells great the malls 208 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: or whatever. Someone said, the big old mall smells like amazing. 209 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 5: Well, everything's clean and very fresh and they've sort of 210 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: pumped sent through it. 211 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: And yes, doesn't smell like Abercrombie, is what you're saying, 212 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: which is what we're used to over here. 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: No. 214 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: Wait, so how long have you been living in Dubai for? 215 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: This will be my nine nearly nine years years. 216 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Wow. What is the biggest difference that you see from 217 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: moving from London? 218 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 5: Well, just the safety aspect is amazing. You know, I 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 5: don't have to lock my doors. I you know, we don't. 220 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: We don't sleep. 221 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: We could if you take off your watch at the 222 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: beach and put it on the bed and go for 223 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: a swim, it will be there when you get back. 224 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh really, I feel like London is so safe. 225 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: No mm hmm, you're crazy stabbing No, yeah, it's getting 226 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: it's pretty bad. 227 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, every day there is stabbing and I'm like, oh, 228 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: it's safe, safer than. 229 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 5: Your everybody's getting robbed with mop heads and like, no, 230 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: it's not safe. 231 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: So we don't have any of that here. 232 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: I love that and you are okay. The call to 233 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: get the Real Housewives of Dubai. How did that come together? 234 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: Bravo just contacted me and truly, so you know, I 235 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: don't know how it came together. I mean, I guess 236 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: it was in the planning and then Bravo when they 237 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: planned to make it, Bravo told told the production house 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 5: I was here. 239 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: And you were originally a Lady of London, right and 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: that series? Yeah okay. So was it an instant yes 241 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: for you to go back into reality TV or were 242 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: you like I need a second with this. 243 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: No, I mean i'd had a second. I had six 244 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: years off, so. 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a good break. I mean, were you 246 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: like eager to go back or did you think, hang on, 247 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: I need to Like. 248 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: I was eager. I was ready. I wanted to go back. 249 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: I was really excited, Like I think, you know, I 250 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: was equate doing something like this, like being pregnant. You know, 251 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: when you're in it, you hate it, and then afterwards 252 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: you're like, let's do it again. 253 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: Just long enough to forget all the things you didn't. 254 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 3: Like, right, Yeah, one hundred percent. 255 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: That's right. It becomes charming in your brain again. Yes, 256 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: And is your your now husband, Sergio? Was he all 257 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: on board or was he needing a minute as well? 258 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Was this like a unanimous yes for you guys that 259 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: were No, he. 260 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: Was straight on board. 261 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: You know, Sergio's had a level of fame I suppose, 262 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: paying for you know, such a big soccer team for 263 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: seven years. You know that going into the stadium you 264 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: always had like people around you and people talking about 265 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: you and knowing who you are. So he was ready 266 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: and he kind of I think things don't phase him. 267 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: Is there anything off limits for you too? You know 268 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: I would I'd imagine in the reality world like this, 269 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: they want all the dirt and they want all of 270 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: the things, right. That's what makes these shows so wildly 271 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: popular as they get to see all the behind the scenes. 272 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you two kind of sat down 273 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: and agreed upon ahead of time and said we're absolutely 274 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: not doing this on camera, we're not showing that, or 275 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: we're not talking about this to protect any sort of privacy, 276 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: or do you just go all in. 277 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, we won't be making a sex video. 278 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: Well just really myth by Yeah that's the line. 279 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: We found that. No, not really. 280 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: We you know, we understand that we're on a show, 281 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 5: and even when we're off the show, we we are 282 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: pretty prolific on Instagram and all of the you know, 283 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 5: YouTube and things like that. I believe that it's quite 284 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: fun to see because we've such an age gap relationship. 285 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 5: You know, there's so many misconceptions about how this works, 286 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: why he's here, what, you know, how our what our 287 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: dynamic is. So no, I'm not embarrassed or ashamed about 288 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 5: any of it. You know, we've we love hard, we 289 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 5: fight hard, you know, we have we laugh all the time. 290 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: And I think it's nice to show people that this 291 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 5: relationship how it works, you know, because people don't understand, 292 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: you know, that the age gap relationships this way round 293 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: can work. You know, before I got I became when 294 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: sorry married Sergio, I googled every sort of made to 295 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: December relationship this way round, and I was like, no, 296 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: cannot work. You know, there's just there's no one. There's macron, 297 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 5: you know, and that's about it. Like it's not gonna work, 298 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: but you know it's working. 299 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: What was the biggest thing that worked in that nineteen 300 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: year gap, and then what's the thing that's been working 301 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: against you? Guys. 302 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: The biggest thing that works, I think is the fun aspect, 303 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: like love, the laughter and at my age and being 304 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 5: where I am in life, like honestly, there's something about 305 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: belly laughing that is priceless, like literallyking priceless. 306 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't swap it for the world, and like, you know, 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm not. I've never been motivated by money. 308 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: I'm not looking for a rich old man on a 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: super yacht, which a lot of the women and. 310 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: These shows are. 311 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: I'm fully aware of what I got and what Sergio 312 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: and I are building together, and I really love the 313 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 5: journey with him. That's what the hustle and the fun 314 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: of what we're doing, you know, keeps us alive. 315 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: So that's the bit I enjoy. 316 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 5: The biggest factor against us, I suppose is maybe the 317 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: children thing, because you know, my children are leaving home 318 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: and I'm I've become quite selfish and I love my 319 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: I love my crazy life with Sergia. We get on 320 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 5: a you know, a plane and we're you know, we're 321 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: just booking Iceland now, you know, and all of that, 322 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: and then we're going to London next week and then 323 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: he's off to Spain and and I'm like, that has 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: to change, that will stop. It can't happen with the 325 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: top with a baby. It doesn't doesn't work. 326 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: It's definitely more challenging. Yeah, you know, I mean that's 327 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: is that something he wants there. 328 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: Desperately, and I'm desperately trying to persuade him out of it. 329 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: Called you are I'm forty eight. 330 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay, oh you don't look forty eight. Yeah, I mean, 331 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: well listen, I mean it's you're in a different age 332 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: with your kids. I mean, that's just something we talk 333 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: about all the time because it's like, you know, she's 334 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: got older kids, you know, oldt so that will be 335 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: on the other side, you know, to start again. And 336 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: it's like, so my. 337 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: Son fourteen, I've got two at fourteen and one at eighteen. 338 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be tough. 339 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: And it's like I had another one with my now husband, 340 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: and it is I mean, like granted, both my kids 341 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: they're still like youngish, it's like almost six and nine, 342 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: but then you know, having a baby again, I mean 343 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: it really because it's like, okay, you're back to you know, 344 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: being back for nep schedules in this and you can't 345 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: really travel as much you have to, so that's it's 346 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: limiting certain things that you want to do, right, And 347 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: we had it in the beginning, it was like all right, 348 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: this weeknd, we don't have any kids, and it's like no, 349 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: now we're always going to have a kid. There are 350 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: now like kid free weekends, you know. So it's like 351 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: but so, I mean, that'd be hard, but it's also 352 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: something he doesn't have. So that's got to be really 353 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: tough because if he really wants a baby, you know, 354 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: it's like. 355 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's staying. 356 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: That's always the question. But again, you can't live in 357 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: fear of these things. And I don't believe in ever 358 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 5: living in fear. You know, what what will be will be. 359 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm not going to also have a 360 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: baby because I'm scared of that for all the wrong reasons. 361 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: And I'm also you know, I'm also very relaxed about 362 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: life and pragmatic about life. You know, you can't force 363 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: somebody to stay for any reason. And I think you know, 364 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 5: having a baby right now for me, I mean, we 365 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: just started building a hotel in Bali. 366 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: We're back and forth with I love my life. 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 5: As you said, you know, being divorced, you have one 368 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 5: week on, one week off. 369 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: I quite like being myself again. 370 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: I film. 371 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: We've just been on a speaking tour. We're never you know, 372 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: we are all over the place, you know, and the 373 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 5: thought of like as you said, once you have a baby, 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: you know, when school starts, you can't even get on 375 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: a plane. You have to stay. So you know, I'm 376 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: looking forward to those days. So I really don't know. 377 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 5: That is the biggest biggest challenge and age gap relationship 378 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 5: this size is because you're right, he doesn't have a 379 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 5: baby and he deserves to experience being a father obviously. 380 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: If do you think'll come down to that like ultimatum 381 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: where he's like, I want a baby or I'm out. 382 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: He says not. 383 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: But you know, I can't be sure of that. But 384 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: you can't be sure of anything in life, you know, 385 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: And that's the decision I'll have to live with for 386 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: the rest of my life. 387 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: You know. Whether I make the right one or the 388 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: wrong one, you just don't know, but you know it 389 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: is what it is. 390 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: Right on this season of Real Housewiods of Dubai, you 391 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: mentioned that you think that your relationship will be ten 392 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: to fifteen years. Is this a piece of that or 393 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: is there something else that goes on in your brain 394 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: that just gives you this like decade decade and a 395 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: half kind of time frame. 396 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a big piece of it. 397 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: You know, he will want to start a family, and 398 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 5: if I can't or don't want to that, you know, 399 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: he has every right to. And that's the way it is, 400 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 5: you know, And I can't fault him for that. If 401 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: I decide not to and he really decides he can't 402 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: live without a baby, that's a very very big decision 403 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: for him to live childless because I've decided I've got 404 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: my own. 405 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: How is his relationship with your children and how do 406 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: they get along? 407 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: It's it's you know, it's up and down. Sometimes it's great, 408 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: sometimes it's just not. That's the relationship that many stepparents have. 409 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: The more people I speak to families, it just is 410 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: the way it is. When they love you, they love 411 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 5: you and you're cool and like they love to play 412 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 5: you off the other the father, and there a lot 413 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: of times they use a step parent as you know, 414 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: as bargaining and all of these things to get what 415 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: they want and kids, A kid's a you know, it's 416 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: not easy being a step parent for anyone, you know, 417 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 5: and throw in an age gap as well, you sort 418 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: of miss a lot of the respect level that maybe 419 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: they would have for an older parent. You know, it's 420 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: it's challenging. It's very challenging, but as good as it 421 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: can be. 422 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: We have it right now good. 423 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Can imagine those older ages and with the age gap, 424 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: that would be tough, Like if you had younger kids 425 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: like you've had, you know, I mean just that would 426 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: be that I feel like that would be a really 427 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: hard thing to maneuver for sure. 428 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also feel like I'm just like in this, 429 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, what would I do? You know, because 430 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: Alan and I were just having yet again another conversation 431 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: about a baby, and it was one of those things 432 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: where ketherne where you know, eat it. I wonder if 433 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: you're just like, if your hard no is now so 434 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: that way it doesn't have to be a thing that 435 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: continues to just linger on in the relationship where it's 436 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: just like this is just what it is. It's a no, 437 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: and you know, let's continue our lives and not have 438 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: this thing that is on our back the entire next 439 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: ten years. You know, it's really you can. 440 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 5: Make a hard no because it's not you know, I waiver. 441 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 5: It's not like I do give the children and go okay. 442 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: You know, friends bring over their babies and I'm like, no, no, 443 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: I can't do this, you know, I just I don't 444 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: feel that maternal. But then maybe he always tries to 445 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: persuade me that, you know, when it's our baby, it'll 446 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: be you know, different, which is true. 447 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: You know, do you feel maternal to other people's babies. 448 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: To Janice only to Janice's baby? But I don't. But 449 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: when I do. When I was pregnant with and you 450 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: and you had I was pregnant and she had just 451 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: what last year you were had Lion, and I was 452 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, what did I do? Because 453 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: I just I was I wasn't ready to step back 454 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: into that again. And I'm just like I'm forty and 455 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, and like you know, and just I'm like, 456 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 2: this isn't And I had this and I remember Sarah 457 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: came up to me and she was like, you will 458 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: love your baby, and I'm like, well, I ca, can 459 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: you give us a minute? I think that I love 460 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: I love lying. I'm just saying. But in that moment, 461 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I'm ready to 462 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: step back into this, and I but now I'm eight 463 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: months pregnant and oh my god, and like that anxiety 464 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: of like, I will say this, though, I think for 465 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: the is deeply and as deeply as you feel about 466 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: him and the things that you have to say about him, 467 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: I think that I'm just gonna I'm gonna sit back 468 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: and watch because I feel like there's such a respect 469 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: for him that I think this would be really beautiful. 470 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: And I will say this, it is much different. Our 471 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: gaps are the same. So almost nine six and a 472 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: baby one year old. Oh wow, this time around has 473 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: been and I'm forty two, but it has been so 474 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: special and different because we know how fleeting it is, 475 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: I think, and we know how fast it goes, so 476 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: like I didn't travel for the end of pregnancy year 477 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: and for a lot of the first year. But I 478 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: also just, oh, I just like soaked it up because 479 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: I know how fast it goes, you know. And I 480 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: think when you get to look at like a little Sergio, 481 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are just a stunning couple and 482 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: you seem to have really beautiful respect for each other, 483 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: which is something that a lot of couples are missing. 484 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: And just like this idea that you get to build 485 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: a fun life together, I would say baby over split exactly. 486 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: He is my best friend. 487 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: We have so much fun, and I think on the 488 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: show you don't see as much fun as that we 489 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 5: do have. So you know, that's why I don't want 490 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 5: to give him a hard note. It's not a hard note. 491 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: You know what's sad. Actually it is that we're just 492 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: starting to build our brands together and we've really got 493 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 5: into the rhythm of working together as husband and wife. 494 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 5: And in an ideal world, you know, we would we would. 495 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: He doesn't want a baby today, you know, we would 496 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: have it in two to three years, except I'm forty eight, 497 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 5: so that makes me, you know, fifty one before we start, 498 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 5: and that's a whole different thing. Right, So if the 499 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 5: time crunch wasn't there, then you know, we do it 500 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 5: in just not while we're in the middle of all 501 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 5: of this, but as it happens, we don't have a choice. 502 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: It's like everyone's like, you don't have long like you 503 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 5: have to do it now. If you're going to do it, 504 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 5: you've got to do it now, and I'm I'm that piece. 505 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that too, and that's the piece that 506 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: is stopping me. Is like age, you know, I just 507 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: I hate that. And my husband's older, so I feel 508 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: that on the other side, you know, like I'm like, 509 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: our babies don't deserve to have, like, you know, an 510 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: eighty year old dad when they're graduating college or whatever. 511 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: So we have to stop. I mean not that I 512 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: feel young. This last one really did me and it 513 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: was beautiful. But okay, moving on from the baby talk. 514 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: If you could fire one member of the cast, who 515 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: would it be? Oh my god, that's only one, Carolyn said. 516 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: I agreely. 517 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 5: Actually, I've just got to a place where they don't 518 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: all hate me, sob I'm sure you will know my 519 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 5: answer really, but I'm not going to say that. 520 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: Why why do they not like you? I don't because 521 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: I have not I have not watched yet, which now 522 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to. But what why don't they like you? 523 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know, just never have I guess probably intimidated. 524 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: Who knows. 525 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I love you a lot, well, usually because you're 526 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: you're the big housewife watching in this and it's like 527 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: most women hate the women that yeah. 528 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely know, and yeah, yeah that's usually the case. 529 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely confident and happy in my own skin 530 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: and I don't want to be anywhere else. 531 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: So maybe that just bothers them. 532 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: That is very intimidating for a lot of women, insecure 533 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: women in general. 534 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So then are you hated by the fans too? 535 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: Then no, not at all. That's why I don't think 536 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: a lot of women. 537 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I've get a lot of love from women, 538 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: believe it or not, like a lot because they feel 539 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: like I get a lot of words that, you know, 540 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: I give them hope that I show, you know, like 541 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: I left my. 542 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: Very stable, normal life. 543 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: I've you know, done marrit a twenty four year old, 544 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: I've done everything that's different, moved to the Middle East, 545 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: you know, gone onto the reality show. I think I've 546 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: shown women, you know, a totally different side of what 547 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: is possible, you know, outside of what we've been told 548 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: is possible or what society says we should be doing. 549 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have your podcast uncut and uncensored. What is 550 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: one of the biggest lessons that you've learned in life just. 551 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 5: To be able to pivot? I think that life never 552 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: goes the way you think it's going to go. I mean, 553 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: I could not have foreseen this journey at all. I 554 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: mean if you told me. And when I moved to 555 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: the Middle East, I did not think Housewives was coming 556 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 5: to the Middle East. You know, I didn't know. I 557 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 5: didn't know I'd be married to a twenty four year 558 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: old my age. You know, all of the things that 559 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 5: have happened to me, I did not foresee. And I 560 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 5: think being able to be resilient, to be able to pivot, 561 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: and to be able to make those choices and just 562 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 5: go with the flow, is that is the biggest thing. Like, 563 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: don't turn things down because you're scared. You know, if 564 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: you're scared, you should do them. 565 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: If you're scared, you shouldn't marry him. How did you 566 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: meet your husband? 567 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: He had just come back from playing football in Europe 568 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: and he was in Newport Beach and I was doing 569 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: a podcast live in Newport Beach, so and he it 570 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 5: was like women's empowerment and he was one of the 571 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 5: only men in the audience. 572 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: Can you believe it? 573 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: And then how did he get your attention? He was 574 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: the only man in the audience. 575 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: He came to the. 576 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: Meet and greet with a friend of his because it 577 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: was all women basically, and I actually thought he was 578 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 5: quite good looking for a single girl friend of mine. 579 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 5: So we got talking and I was like, oh, you're single. 580 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 5: He said yes. I said I've got a girl for 581 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: a few and so we swapped numbers and that was that. 582 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 5: Then it just ended up being me and me en. 583 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: So cute. 584 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: That's so cute. Oh, I really love Carol. Everyone watched 585 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: Real Housewives is Dubai, Aeron and Bravo, and listen to 586 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: Uncut and Uncensored podcast new episodes every Wednesday. Thank you 587 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: so much for coming on the show. We appreciate it. 588 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 589 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait for your birth announcement. I'm pretty pumped 590 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: for you, Carolyn. 591 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I will thanks bye bye you too. 592 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: Can we hit two pop culture things really fast? 593 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Sure? 594 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: Thoughts on Ben and Jen I'm thoughtless. 595 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: This one just makes me sad. 596 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't make me a little sad too. I just 597 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: can't imagine all the layers they navigate. 598 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: So that the announcement was interesting to me. 599 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't even see. I think people read into things 600 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: too much. Like, for example, Mica texts me, I can't 601 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: remember now, but this was uh when we had released 602 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: a story we actually released on his birthday. I had 603 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: no idea. No, I'm like, I'm like, I don't think 604 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: she purposely planned to do it on that day. I 605 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: don't think. 606 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: I meant, Okay, you know that means nothing to me. 607 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: That I was like, I don't even as your birthday 608 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: and I would never purposely, ever plan a single really 609 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: on your birthday, calmed down, happy birthday. 610 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, not that part at all. 611 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is I feel like we truly 612 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: haven't known what's going on, who wants out, who, whatever? 613 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: And then her sources comments were just interesting to me 614 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: because it was basically like she's tired of waiting was one. 615 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: Of the quotes. 616 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: That makes me sad, And I'm like, interesting because we 617 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: truly don't know like who, and so it made it 618 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: sound like I don't know what the case is that 619 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: she truly and again who knows what the truth is, 620 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: but that she's been wanting to make it work and 621 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: he has just been like done, which I understand most 622 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: people are going to go obviously she's terrible to him, 623 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: like and I hold out hope that she's a nice human. However, 624 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: people have said otherwise so I understand that maybe there 625 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: were things that probably happened and he was unhappy, and 626 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, then she was trying to make it work. 627 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just the quotes were very interesting. 628 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: It sounded like she was trying to make it work, 629 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: but it was sick of waiting so wild and I just 630 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, what I mean, I don't know, it's none 631 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: of our business. But the same time, I'm just like, 632 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: what happened here? 633 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: No, it's not. I just I will always be sad 634 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: for the girl that keeps fighting for love. Yeah, I 635 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: know it isn't that isn't happy and in love. 636 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he looked miserable from the kick go. 637 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: Let's be honest. 638 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: He kind of has resting miserable face though. I mean 639 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: see him like I know I do too, but like 640 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: I don't ever see it. 641 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't did we see him happy before her or 642 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: did all of these memes just start coming out once 643 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: he was with her. 644 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, That's what I'm saying, Like, I don't 645 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: know that. I maybe he just default is you know, 646 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: like guys, I might have and I don't feel like 647 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: I have resting happy face. I'm just a person out in. 648 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: The wild looks extra miserable, and again I love him too. 649 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: That he's just he looks just is it the smoke 650 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: breaks one that you're talking closing the door one that 651 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: that was funny every because I feel like every relationship 652 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: has been in that where just like closing the door. 653 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Opens the door where and shut his face like it 654 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: just makes me laugh every time. 655 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: I feel like that just explains like our relationship. 656 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: It does it totally point but no, I just but 657 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: it makes. 658 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: Sense everyone to be happy, Yeah, but it makes me sad. 659 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: Thoughts on have you guys seen it ends with us? 660 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: It's on Blake Lively stuff, m. 661 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: Someone else go first. 662 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: I feel very out of touch right now. I'm a 663 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: little in the weeds of my own four walls. But 664 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: what I have gathered is that Blake's co star has 665 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: a very different interview process and words to say than 666 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: she does about the movie. 667 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Yes, is that accurate? And I think that he has 668 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: been very kind. I think that he has told people 669 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: to lay off. However, that interview which that woman has 670 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: really again, I don't know much about Blake Lively. I 671 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: don't have an opinion on Blake Lively. To be completely honest. 672 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: With my thing that I posted about my therapists and opinions. 673 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see. Yeah, it was because you had 674 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: told you had told me about it and then listening 675 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: and I understood what you were saying. But it was 676 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: really help and never fully express the way that the therapist. 677 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: It was super helpful to listen to it, and I 678 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: was like absolutely. But watching the clip from that interview 679 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: where she said congratulations on your bump and she said 680 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: congratulations on your bump, that that did not sit well 681 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: with me. I didn't see it's, yeah, I didn't. I 682 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: did not love that. 683 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: But maybe it was a bad day. I don't know. 684 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: I don't know much about it. 685 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: Other than that I did come across that, and that 686 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: woman has spoken out about how it made her feel 687 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: and you know, all the things. So I don't think 688 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: that that And maybe she did something wrong in a 689 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: part I haven't seen in the interview. Maybe there was 690 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: something that set her off. I do not know. However, 691 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that the reporter or the interviewer did 692 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: anything wrong saying congratulations because it was out that she 693 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: was pretty. But it sounds like I'm the only one 694 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: that's going to say my opinion on this, I don't I. 695 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Really don't have one. I just haven't had like enough 696 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: like bandwidth to go in and go Like I didn't 697 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: even know what the movie was truly about. I just 698 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: was the title was intriguing to me. And then I 699 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: kept kind of like it was trying to pop into 700 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: an algorithm and I'm like, you're messing up my therapy 701 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: homeschooling algorithm Instagram, So get her out of here. 702 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: But it was everywhere because they started going down rabbit holes. 703 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: I guess so, And then what about you, Kramer, what's 704 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: your opinion? 705 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think, how did my therapist say this? My 706 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: only opinion goes to what I would hope that I 707 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: would love the messaging to go to dB with media 708 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: instead of talking about riffs and everything else, Like the 709 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: movie is about domestic violence. I haven't seen the movie. 710 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: A lot of things. I have a tough time watching movies. Yeah, 711 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: sure deal with domestic violence. Given my history with it. It 712 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: was obviously very challenging to act and that the movie 713 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: that I did this past summer, But I still have 714 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: a tough time. And I had asked Sydney, who's our 715 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: producer on the shows, like, hey, how heavy is the 716 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: because from what I had just heard of things, it 717 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: was more of a I thought it was kind of 718 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: like a rom com bring a Girls to the movie, 719 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: just kind of from what I've like was seeing and 720 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: I love like Lively, So I was like, you know, 721 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: I really want to see the movie and she was like, 722 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: you know, it's really heavy and DV and I'm like, oh, like, 723 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be able to watch it 724 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: then yeah. And I started hearing, you know, stuff about 725 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: the interviews, and for me, I was just like, it 726 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: made me sad because I just want the messaging to 727 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: be about domestic violence and how to help people and 728 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: how to get help. And I think it's hard because 729 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: when you're in interviews, they're going to ask the lead 730 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: a bunch of questions. Like even when we were doing 731 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: my very small movie in New York, they ask about everything, 732 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate that you're just going to get certain 733 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: clips like they asked about my wedding, they asked about this, 734 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: they asked about that, and so, you know, and I 735 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: talked about those things. So because that's in the interviews, 736 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 2: and I don't know if people are just editing certain 737 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: I have no idea. But to your point, the reason 738 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: you may perceive it as a rom com is because 739 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: of the way her interviews seem to have a common thread. Well, 740 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just being edited that way, 741 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, I think that whole thing is I just 742 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: literally just the only thing I will say is I 743 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: think it's hard for people to talk about domestic violence 744 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: when they haven't themselves been in real life had the 745 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: hands of domestic violence on them. So for people to 746 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: say it doesn't define you, it does define you. It's 747 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: now it's not how do I say this any therapists, Well, 748 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't define you, but it has made me who 749 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: I am. So though people can say it doesn't define you, 750 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: it is one of the biggest pieces of me is 751 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: domestic violence and has been the biggest thread in my life. 752 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: So I just think instead of all the media outlet 753 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: it's talking about riffs and this and that, I'm like, 754 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: can we just get to the subject and educate people 755 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: on what to do and those things? And I'm not 756 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: this is this is this is nothing even against like 757 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: because I have I have no real opinion about the 758 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: everything else. I just can we just go to the 759 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: messaging of how I man can get help and project 760 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: this exists? Why exactly? 761 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: You know? 762 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 2: And it's okay to answer other questions in interview because 763 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: interviewers ask other questions. They're gonna they're not just going 764 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: to solely ask questions about domestic violence. It is then 765 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: the media who's picking up the things that are not 766 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: about and that's what makes me frustrated when I did 767 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: my media outlet and this is in defense of Blake, 768 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: because when I was doing again, a very small, not 769 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: big movie, but people picked up, oh about her wedding 770 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: and this, that and the other, and I'm like, where's 771 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: the messaging of domestic violence that we talked about, and 772 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: like that should have been the story, not the I'm 773 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 2: going to be wearing this too. The It's like I 774 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 2: talked about a really heavy subject and that's not even 775 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: the headline because they don't care about that. Not even 776 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: don't care about it, but they're not Like that's not 777 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: the click that they're going to get. People want to 778 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: click oh what, you know, if they're wearing kilts or something, 779 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, And so I think that's the Like I 780 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: just wish with a heavy topic, the media would be 781 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: talking about how people can get help and yeah. 782 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe Blake did talk about that a lot. 783 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: I think the problem is is when people went back 784 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: and dug in in the past, not even just about 785 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: this movie, they found a lot of unflattering interview pieces, 786 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: and then now that's become the story and now that's 787 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: what everybody It did start with, like the riffs and 788 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: like why is there a riff? 789 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: Why are they not following? Which is so silly to me, 790 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 4: and then. 791 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't care about that. 792 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: Now people can get out silly. 793 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so silly. 794 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: But I can see where this has manifested, and I 795 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: hate it because it does overshadow the domestic violent stuff. However, 796 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: I can understand why people are now going, wait, this 797 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: wasn't okay what she did here and what she did 798 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: there in certain interviews, So I can see both sides 799 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: of that. 800 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one. 801 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I will see you guys next week. On 802 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: that note, love you guys. I'm bye. I love you. 803 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: If you or someone you know needs help, call the 804 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: Domestic Violence Hotline at one eight hundred seven ninety nine 805 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: seven two three three. Help is available