WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, August 19 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:08.360 It is Wednesday, August. This is Jack Bars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.240 And now that guy who could easily shotgun a can 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.680 of gatorade or beer or six pounds standing rib roast 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:24.000 j Peace shiit Rick, the man's not wrong. Welcome into 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.720 Jaguars Happy Our our first Wednesday show of the campaign, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.760 and we've got plenty to get to today. Bucky Brooks debut, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.040 will get to the offensive installation and a short time 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.360 frame for this Jaguars offense. What can they get done 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.680 over the next week and a half. We'll talk about 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.720 the defensive attrition that has happened so far and how 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.440 the Jaguars battle that. And a report this afternoon that 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.279 a trade is from what imminent of Unike and goc Way. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.600 We'll touch on that, and we'll go around the National 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.520 Football League. John Osier, Jaguars senior writer with us as 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.320 always is on Wednesday, but we welcome in the newest 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.360 member of the Jaguars broadcast team from NFL Network and 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.000 former Jaguar, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, it's great to have you. Hey, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.880 thanks so much for having me home, and I'm excited 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.160 to be a part of the team. No doubt, John, 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.520 you've known Bucky for a long time, going back to 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.440 the I guess the mid nineties, right, well, we had 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.080 two years together. As writers like to say of players 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.639 they cover, uh covered Buckey nine six, part of nineties 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.360 seven with the Jags, and then you know, in the 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.640 last few years as as a lot of us to 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.040 Jaguars dot Com and around the NFL have have gotten 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.160 a no Bucky again in his work, you know, through 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.280 the NFL, especially leading up to the draft. He's been 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.240 on a lot this offseason as we geared up for this. Obviously, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.120 I'm looking forward to it. I can tell you JP 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:55.320 as a reporter, when I saw that Bucky was doing 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.600 well as an analyst, it didn't surprise me. He was 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.080 one of the better guys to talk to in the 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.080 locker room back then, and he's still one of the 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.040 better guys to talk to on television and the media now. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.640 So Bucky, I'm looking forward to any Buddy, thanks so much. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.160 Thanks for the kind of words we need, some like 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.320 classic nineties six stories. We've got a whole season to 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.360 get to some of those, but you know, I'm excited 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.760 to hear some of those as we move along here. Bucky, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.920 for sure, you see his work on NFL Network the 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:27.239 Move the Sticks podcast with Daniel Jeremiah. Five years of 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.239 the National Football League, including some time here in Jacksonville. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.919 And you know, it wasn't long after that, Bucky, you 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.320 went straight into media work. You were pretty quick into 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.840 it right after you retires that right well, that Scott 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.120 it for about seven years. So that kind of gave me, Um, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.639 I guess uh feel for the business in a way 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.760 because I was writing so much within Man in two 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.040 thousand seven, had an opportunity to start writing for sports 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.320 to illustrate it, and away I went. But it's been 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.080 a very, very enjoyable experience and I'm really loving what 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.600 I'm about to do. What you got us. Yeah, the 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.560 scouting part of it is interesting because you put you 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.679 in Daniel on a podcast together. It's like, Okay, now 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.639 you guys know exactly what you're looking for, what you're 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.640 talking about when it comes to two prospects. The pre 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.840 draft process is unbelievable with you two guys. But having 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.760 that scouting background gives you an insight that not a 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.080 lot of people have. Yes, you need, man, I feel 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.240 like I've been blessed enforcunate it in my career. It's 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.200 not only played for a bunch of great hit coaches, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.880 but to be around a bunch of great person nail 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.079 Man uh, from Ron Wolf to some of the other 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.080 guys that I've also been around, Scott mccluen and John Snyder. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.360 I feel like I've really learned a lot about the 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:44.000 business and the team building process. John. It's uh, it 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.240 is a different view of things than we would have 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.160 right as a as a writer and a broadcaster. You know, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.800 if you haven't been inside those war rooms, it's it's 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.040 a little different John. To get his point of view, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.680 there's no question. And a couple of weeks ago, when 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.680 Bucky was on the Ozone Pie Cast, we talked about 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.760 that a little bit and I was fascinated to learn 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.160 how being a scout, which is much different than how 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.560 you see things as a player. I think players often 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.080 just see things from their own individual position point of view. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.960 If you're a wide receiver, that's how you see the world. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.000 You're wanting the ball, you're trying to learn the offense. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.080 As a scout, you have to step back and look 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:27.360 almost down on the game from a higher point of view. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.320 Not that many media types, which Bucky unfortunate for you. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.000 You are a media type. Now, uh not that many 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.640 in the media have both of those who have seen 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.440 as a player and know how players think, and who 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.640 have seen it from a scout. So I don't want 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.320 to say it's absolutely the only one, but it's a 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.119 very unique point of view that he comes with. Yeah, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.720 that was definitely unique. But I'm excited. I'm excited to 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.640 offer up some analysis for the Jacks. Let's do it, man, Well, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.800 let's get right into it. Let's start off though, with 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.560 the big picture. Look here, guys, it is a strange 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.919 training camp around the National Football League, no preseason games, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.560 you know, it's it's difficult to get work in with 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:16.479 only fourteen padded practices. Actually eleven of those are full practices. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.839 There's a ramp up period even in pads that I 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.839 think we're still in right now, maybe one or two 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.560 more practices before you can go a full practice in 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.839 full pads. So the time and the opportunity for players 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.360 that are maybe on the roster bubble to show off 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.000 and shine is limited at best this year. Bucky. How 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.680 much of a challenge is evaluation for a coaching staff, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.320 for a scouting staff, a GM decision makers when there's 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.640 no action under the lights at all. Yeah, this is 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.720 really really tough because there are certain guys that play 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.279 well during practices, but there are other guys that shine 0:05:51.360 --> 0:06:07.440 in game. We'll get back with Bucky at a moment. Well, John, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.800 this is you know, as we talked about before the 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.320 evaluation process, it comes down to paddent practices. That's difficult. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.479 Would think that there's a pretty good idea of four 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.599 of the football team, which those those bubble guys are 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.000 going to be the real question mark this year. Who stays, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:31.000 who goes in the practice squad? Who? You know, forty 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.000 two of the guys, Uh, we're gonna be in the team. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.359 Five they have a good idea. I think what's interesting 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.240 about this is the reality is with sixteen practice squad guys, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.800 and this is gonna be a year where I think 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.120 you use more than that. You're gonna have some floaters 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.240 as I call them, guys who are on and off 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.279 the practice squad. You know, I get the cut down 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.440 days a big deal in the NFL because you know 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.960 you're either making the team or not. But when you 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.200 talk about the numbers, when you get to eight guys 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.800 in camp, sixteen plus fifty three. All of a sudden, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.040 you're at sixty nine guys. I don't know that that 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.760 many guys here are actually fighting for jobs. I think 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.360 the teams trying to figure out who do went on 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.400 the practice squad, who do we want to sort of 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.600 have in that minor league, if you will, the quick 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:22.440 call up. So yes, it'll affect some jobs at the end. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.880 But I almost get the feeling in this COVID season 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.200 that there's gonna be so much opportunity because there's some turnover, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.840 that this all sort of works out, and in the 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.600 long run, a lot of the guys who get cut, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.360 I think we're going to be on active rosters before 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.400 the end of the season. So maybe it all will 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.320 sort of work out over the course of the next 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.280 hopefully four months. Bucky Brooks back with us. Now we 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.320 lost you, they're glad to have you back, of course. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.080 So yeah, the the challenge here is trying to figure 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.679 out who is your core part of your football team, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.840 who do you want on that practice squad. How do 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.440 you get them to the practice flood without getting them 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.040 selected off waivers. Yeah, no, that is a big challenge. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.720 And John, you bring up a great point about the 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.240 monor league system and using the practice squad like that, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.760 because that's where a lot of the draftees or the 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.320 undrafted free agents that normally would have a chance to 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.320 make the team, they may find themselves on the practice squad. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.680 But because the practice squad is so critical this year, 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.920 the coaches have to continue to develop the young players. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.800 It has to be a priority for the Jaguars to 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.080 make sure they developed the young players because you're gonna 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.640 need them to play about around the middle of the season. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.560 When it comes down to a cutdown. It's not like 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.920 the roster is at eighty now, right, um, and then 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.640 you've gotta be at fifty three and maybe they've added 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.040 one I can't remember, and then the practice squad is sixteen. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.280 So there's true like nine to ten actual players that 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.840 won't be around the organization unless you poach somebody off 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.679 another waiver wire, right, Bucky. That's that's kind of the 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.880 big thing. We always think about the huge cut down 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.440 from fifty three, but it seems a much different this 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.480 time around. Yeah, it's much different. And when teams decided 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.000 to become skinny, meaning only bring eighty guys into camp, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.240 you pretty much cut your team almost all the way down. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.600 As John was refercenting, you have fifty guys that can 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.960 be on the active roster, another six team in that 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.360 practice squad mixed. So right now we're talking about severyone guys, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.360 eight or nine guys that are in play on the bubble. Typically, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.800 the team kind of has a general idea who they 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.880 want to carry on their squad, but they do leave 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.680 a spot or two for a surprise they may emerging camp. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.720 All right, let's move along. Now. The other part of 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.840 this thing is teams affected by this new field. And 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.280 you know, I get the feeling, guys that a more 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.920 veteran football team, a team that has an established offensive scheme, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.080 defensive scheme, uh players who have been around an organization 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.160 for a long time, will have an advantage in this 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.440 situation without preseason games, where a team like the Jaguars 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.559 is young with a new offensive coordinator, a second year quarterback, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.679 a lot of young players on the team, they're trying 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.960 just trying to get an offense going bucky. This is 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.800 I think an advantage for a veteran team rather than 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.120 a team really like the Jaguars, it's young and trying 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.360 to figure things out. Typically, I would say It is 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.320 advantageous for a veteran team because they already understand the system. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.600 There's a level of chemistry and continuity that already exists 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.840 with the team. However, with a team that you have 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.680 an offensive coordinator this new and you have young players, 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.160 you can maybe catch some early opponents by surprise because 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.240 they haven't seen what you're doing because they haven't been 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.760 any preseason games. That's an excellent point in fact, John, 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.080 you know that the next trick, John, is Jake Gruden 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.200 has to figure out what type of offense this is 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.719 and can those guys pick it up? And uh, it's 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.520 still He said the other day that this team is 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.640 in diapers, but they've got to put those big boy 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.719 pants on pretty quick here, John, and be ready to 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.120 go week one. That's not cocking on the door quick. Yeah, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.200 you better change out the diaper's fast. And he knows 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.240 that there's I think it's a twelve practice in the 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.800 next thirteen days something like that. Absolutely critical for Jay 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.840 Gruden to figure out what he's got during that. You know, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.760 I'll say this, I agree with Bucky. Teams with veteran 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.280 quarterbacks and coordinators who have been together, I think have 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.640 a tremendous advantage. Right now, I think I will say 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.720 I get the Gardner man, she's young. I am glad 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.280 for the jaguars sake that they at least have a 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.680 veteran coordinator, meaning Jay Gruden has been through this before. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.560 And I think Doug Morone to a point he didn't 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.439 anticipate COVID, but he did say when he hired Jay 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.800 Gruden he didn't want a young guy this time. He 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.560 wanted somebody who had been there before. He didn't know 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.600 about COVID. But I think the fact that COVID has 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.920 come along and really cut down the learning time absolutely 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:55.040 means that Jay Gruden, I think, will have a distinct 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.280 advantage any veteran coordinator over a guy who's coming in 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.880 and also trying to learn how to be a coordinator. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.880 Jay doesn't have to worry about that. He knows how 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:07.720 to do this. Yeah, let's say I guess the next 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.800 point here of go ahead, Bucky, No, I'm saying that's 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.120 a really good point, And the trick will be how 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.120 quickly can Jake Gruden adapt to going to minsh you 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.600 and what he has around him. How quickly can he 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.280 cut down a big playbook and make it small and 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.160 digestible for all these young guys to be able to 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:28.160 play fast. Yeah, what what is this offense going to 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.720 look like? That's the next question, right, Are they gonna 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.760 lean on the quarterback, second year guy with some young 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.319 playmakers around him, or are they gonna pound the rock 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.640 with Leonard for that and a contract here? Bucky, what's 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.679 your gut on what this thing's gonna look like at 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.559 the start? You know, my my gut would normally say, hey, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.360 let's lean on the running back, because if you have 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.760 a veteran running back that you can lean on, it 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.240 makes the game easier for everybody else. But when you 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.120 look at what Jake Gruden does schramatically and how Garner 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.680 minsh You's place, it's kind of like a marriage made 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.160 in a quick rhythm passer running a West Coast offense 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.560 that gets the ball out to the playmakers. You look 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.440 at the playmakers that are on the outside, D J Chard, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.360 d D Westbrook, Lebiscus, and there are a lot of 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.920 weapons that can make place. And then don't underestimate the 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.679 impact of Chris Thompson. Chris Thompson could be a critical 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.440 factor out the backfield as a wide receiver, and oh, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.400 by the way, Lena Finette also called the ball will 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.600 out the backfield. I think it may still be past 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.120 centric with Lena Fernette Steel having a heavy workload as 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.440 a runner. It's the great unknown for the Jaguars in 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.800 what is this thing even gonna look like? Nobody knows. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.400 Let's come back. 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If they need me to get 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.600 to the quarterback, I feel like I got the ability 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.280 to do both, you know what I mean. All I 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.240 need to really do it's just proved to to to 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.760 everyone that I'm ready for that. You know, that's the 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.320 biggest thing. I gotta prove my point here within the 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.960 next three weeks that you know, uh, I'm ready for 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.480 the task and I think I can do it. Timmy 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.240 Journ again the defensive tackle signed by the Jaguars this 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.560 week and he joins the defensive line room that has 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.760 a whole lot of new faces over that time period. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.160 Welcome back, Jaguars. Happy our j P Shadrick with Bucky 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.640 Brooks and John Osier and we're discussing the defensive line. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.080 This has been a revolving door. The last few weeks 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.040 around here, a couple of opt outs, some guys put 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.960 on reserve, are the injured reserve list, Uh, some guy 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.840 has signed. I mean, there's a lot of moving parts here. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.639 And then this afternoon reports are surfacing that there is 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.320 a trade that is somewhat imminent for the Jaguars of 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.639 Unique and Dockway. Bucky. You know, we've we've heard about 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.840 this all off season, that Unique is franchise tag. He 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.919 doesn't want to play for the Jags, he wants to 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.240 be moved and not play here anymore. But this is 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.359 the most definitive, at least reporting we've seen close to 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.080 a deal so far. Yeah, it seems like it's imminent 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.520 that he is going to leave Jacksonville and was being 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.120 floated out there maybe a second or third round pick 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.520 and a player coming back. And I would say it 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.040 would be a significant loss for the Jaguars. Obviously. He's 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.360 a sack artist, approven sack artist who is disruptive off 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:50.320 the edge. He plays with a tremendous motor. But they 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.720 already put some safeguards in place. We saw Josh Allen 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.479 going into his second year, is ready to play. Caleb 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.280 and Chase and was drafted in the first round, so 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.399 they up with a younger, more athletic set of bookends. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.040 They may not be fully polished and ready to go, 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.400 but they certainly can get it done with these young 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:16.119 guys on the edges. John, They've counted on those draft picks, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:20.240 as Bucky mentioned there, Josh Allen and Chason. Chason hasn't 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.920 been on the practice field yet, but it doesn't seem 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.160 to be. At least the word is that that hamstring 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.679 issue is not too much of a big deal. But 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.399 obviously this will be huge if the Jags move forward. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.560 It's a big piece of the organization the last few 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.720 years around here. Well, it's huge, and there's no way 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.239 to say that it's going to help you on the 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.200 field this year because taking a got way eye of 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.680 the equation takes away not just the sack. Then. I'm 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.760 on record. I've said before, I don't know that he's 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.000 elite in terms of sack guy don't. I don't if 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.320 he's an elite in terms of defensive ends, in terms 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.479 of completeness, but what he's exceptional as when he has 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.480 a chance at the quarterback, making the play and getting 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.560 the ball out. I don't know that you replace that element. Uh, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.399 Chason would need to step up in a way that 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.080 most edge rushers in their first year dun't. Josh Allen 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.639 was an exception double digit sax that's rare. I wouldn't 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.000 expect that out of Chason. I think the person that 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.480 it really puts the onus on would be Smooth, meaning 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.199 he's not really a pure sack guy, Dwayne Smoot, but 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.520 he's a guy who with effort can give you a lot. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.119 I think he would play a big role at the 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.240 big end over there. Um, those are the kind of 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.800 things that would have to happen in terms of really 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.520 having the rotation. Defensive line is always rotational. The rotation 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.199 would have to play big. The only good news is 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.040 I think Josh Allen is ready to become a guy 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.400 that is the equivalent of two players. He's that good 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.520 in terms of his impact. He can his development this 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.840 year into a year two elite guy, which I think 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.720 he will be. Could make up for the loss of 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.639 a talent like in god Way have a lot to 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.000 put on Josh Allen. But yeah, think Josh Allen's that good. Look, 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.000 he's a dominant player. UH. Ten and a half sacks 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.639 right out the Gate Pro Bowl caliber player, and you 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.560 could probably say that he kind of kept Hall back 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.840 a little bit in terms of the leadership qualities. Well, 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.960 now their room is his, so he can fully be 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.439 the guy that we saw at Kentucky coming off the 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.840 edge sparking the interests. But on the inside, Tavin, Brian 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.440 and Tim Joern again they have to step up. They 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.640 have to get someone on the inside that can give 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.760 them an inside presence. You can have one outside guy, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.560 but someone on the inside has to be able to 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.840 collapse the pocket. Yeah, collapse the pockets, stop the run. 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.200 That's been the thing around here offseason. All that combined 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.240 on the interior here, let's go, let's go a little 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.200 more in onto on the table. Brian here. Bucky obviously 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.959 a late first round picked for this Jags team, at 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.719 least so far, has not had the statistical performances to 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.080 to really ignite the fan base and get everybody fired up. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.600 But he's a big, strong guy who did at the 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.320 end of last season start to come into his own 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.600 a little bit. That's got to be a good sign 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.359 for him moving ahead here. Yeah, there has to be 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.520 a good sign. Normally for most young players, particularly they 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.760 were drafted high. We said the third year is the 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.480 critical year. That's when the light bulb should come off. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.040 So this is the big year that everyone is expecting 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.560 Brian to be the player that he was drafted to be. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.280 He's tough, he's physical, he's very athletic for his size. 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.840 He has a really good motor. He just hasn't been 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.040 able to put it together consistently. This is the year 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.840 that we have to see the consistency because if he 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.199 plays at a consistent level, he certainly can offset some 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.840 of the disruption that will be lost if you in 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:45.160 Gokway is no longer part of the team. John how 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.679 big was the signing of Journegan. I know that you 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:52.200 know there's been so many changes recently that's add him 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.480 to the list of a new face around here. But 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.480 what are the Jaguars expect from Journegon on the interior 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.400 this defensive line. I think it's more than we think 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.240 it is right now. Well, he's got to be a 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.720 run stuff for first and foremost, because that's what they 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.840 lost and they lost Woods in Gunter. If Joern again 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.199 is the guy that has he has been most of 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.400 his career, especially have pre injury, and I actually think 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:22.840 they're okay. A defensive tackle. Haven Bryant's gotta play, maybe 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.560 not to his absolute potential as a first round pick, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.919 but he's got to play between what that and what 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.239 he's played. You still have Avery Jones, you still have 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.880 journ again, and you still have Davon Hamilton's who they 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.399 like a nose tackle. The the issue with losing the 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:43.120 tackles is now all of these guys have to max out. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.640 There's not a whole lot of debt. But Jern again, 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.560 I'll kind of leave this to Bucky. He watches more 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.200 film of these guys and I do my impressions. He 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.040 can give you a little pass rush, but really he 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.560 has got to help them stop the run because the 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.400 whole thing with the pass rush, I get that there's 0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.240 concerned about in Gokway not being there. They're probably him 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.719 last year was never getting pass right. It was not 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.320 being able to stop the run enough for a lot 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.520 of good pass rushing to do their job effectively. So 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.440 maybe Journagin can help them get to that situation where 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:17.080 Josh Allen and Jason can make plays. Yeah, John, I 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.080 think that's a big part of it. Tim Joern again 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.120 when he was coming out of Florida State Like there 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.640 were people who thought he was gonna be a five 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.800 star playmaker. He had found his way a little bit 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:27.520 at the end of his tenure with the bottom of 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.359 Ravens and then with the Philadelphia Eagles. 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Ron Middleton tight ends coach for the 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.920 Jacksonville Jaguars from Robin Tiger has a Super Bowl ring 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.840 with Washington as a tight end and now has been 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:14.080 around this organization. I think he's on his fifth offensive coordinator. 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.800 That's something else. Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our JP Shadrick 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.560 John Osier for the final segment. He's gonna jump out 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.720 a little early today. Bucky Brooks with us making his 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.400 Jaguars dot Com video debut. He was on the ozone 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:30.040 podcast last week check the archives on the official Jaguars 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.560 podcast network. You know he was discussing Tyler effort there 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.600 and Bucky the route running ability of a guy who 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.520 was a first round pick. So obviously he has some talent, 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.400 but the injury bug has bit effort throughout his career. Finally, 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.919 last season, he plays a full season, stays healthy. When 0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.720 he's healthy and ready to roll, what can this guy 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.200 bring do a j Gruden offense. He's an outstanding steam stretcher. 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.880 He's a guy that can take the top all the defense, 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.679 split the two deep zone, and really create problems between 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.000 the hashes and because he's a big buddy guy that 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.600 has some wide receiver like skills. I can envision Jay 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:14.200 Gruden using him very much like he used a Jordan Reed. Remember, 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.600 Jordan Reed became an All Pro caliber, a Pro Bowl 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.119 caliber tight end under Jay Gruen because he were empty 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.399 formation out and played games with the deployment of the 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.439 tight end Tyler. Iford is athletic enough to do some 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.600 of those things, he could be a huge weapon for 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.679 the Jaguars offense. And John, I heard you this morning, Bucky. 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.080 I don't know if you know John scheduled, because John 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.480 is on about six hundred and twenty five shows a week, 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.200 whether it's here on Tintin XL radio, he is all 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.360 over the place. So I believe John, and correct me 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.040 if I'm mistaken. I heard you this morning on Jaguars 0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:55.120 Drive Time, on this website and on this app discussing 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.920 Josh Oliver and that his loss, now a second year player, 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:01.920 was banged up a lot last year. He has a 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.080 broken bone in his foot. This loss could be even 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.840 more meaningful for the Jaguars than all the defensive line changes. 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.680 Was that this morning? Was I right with them? I 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.760 think it was? And J P. Here's where I'm not 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:22.360 as good as Buck. Bucky does few shows for much money. 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.959 I do any shows for little money. So cowar long. 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.400 Bucky's got to teach me his game, and he doesn't 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.520 want to know my games. But Josh Oliver, I think 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.240 is a huge loss. I wrote this morning for Jaguars 0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.880 dot Com and in the quick thoughts that I think 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.400 it could be as big a loss as either defensive tackles, 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.440 simply because Josh Oliver is a guy that they believe 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.600 is on the very it's hard to stay on the verse. 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.400 He doesn't et me on the field. They believe he's 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.120 capable of being a breakout tight end, a versat tight 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.960 end who can block, who can get down the scene. 0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.520 They think he had the potential of this year to 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.520 break out and be big time with him being out, 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.880 Tyler Eifford, if he's healthy, is going to love being 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.440 in Jacksonville because he's gonna get every opportunity he's gonna get. 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.080 Jay Gruden knows just how to use him and from him, 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.960 and from what Middleton says, there will be no lining 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:20.760 up in the backfield and taking on blockers in goal 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.000 line for Tyler Eifford. He will be a pass catching 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.440 tight end and if he's healthy, maybe the best one 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:33.040 the Jags have had in a long long time. There's 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.240 tight end. I absolutely agree. Um. The one thing that 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.880 Jake Ruten typically does from a schematic standpoint, look for 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.840 a lot of empty formations to create mismatches if they 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.160 like the young wife receiver corps, which they should with 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.800 DJ Chark and those guys. Going empty gives Tyler Eifford 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.840 an opportunity to go one on one with linebackers and 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.800 defensive backs, and that has advantaged There's been a history 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.600 on here the last few years, Bucky of of not 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.440 having a fullback on the roster, so lining up the 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.080 tight end in the back and and doing that whole deal. 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.280 But certainly not the case. There is a fullback on 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.280 the roster currently. So uh, that's a little bit of 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.680 a change for the offense, at least in training camp 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.920 so far. So let's uh, we've touched on tight ends. 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.200 Let's discuss this offensive line a bit, and you know 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.160 it could be the same starting five to start this 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.920 season that ended last year. Uh, Tony Basselli and Pete 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.160 Prisco are with us on Monday nights, Bucky and we 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.480 get a lot of insight from Basselli about the offensive 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.760 line position, especially at left tackle. Of course, Cam Robinson 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.840 is in his fourth year contract year. He's healthy coming 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.800 into training camp for the first time in a long time. 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.560 But there's also there might be a little competition there. 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.360 Will Richardson Jr. Has moved over to left tackle. He 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.520 played right tackle in college throughout his entire career at 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.920 n C State. But Cam Robinson seems to be the guy, 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.280 at least early in camp. That's fourth year player, he's 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.640 been around the league. What have you seen from Cam 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.160 in the last few years. There's a lot of talk 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.280 about footwork and things and and where could that stand. 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.640 I mean, robin center, Will Richardson could be your left 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.640 tackle this year. Yeah, it'd be interesting because when I 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.880 look at Cam Robinson, he is what we would call 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.240 a Mahler brawler type. His his best traits are to 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.960 lock on defensive ends and just kind of move them 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.040 off the ball. He is not necessarily what I would 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.360 call the technician that you want to leave on the 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.240 island down after down and pass protection. And so when 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.080 you're looking at Jake Gruden and what Jake Gruden wants 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.480 to do, he has to make a decision based on Okay, 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.560 here's my office in line. They played really well going forward, 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.240 but my quarterback likes to get the ball out quick. 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.240 I think it leads us to think they're gonna run 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:54.880 the ball where they're gonna get the ball out quick. 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.160 They're gonna try and get it to the hands of 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.920 the playmakers and hope that the quick rhythm of the 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.880 passing game for text the offensive line from having a 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:07.560 block extended periods against talented players. John, It's interesting this 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.920 this change for will Richardson. He's you know, he started 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.760 a couple of games earlier in the year left tackle 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.560 in place with Cam when he would had the other 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.240 leg hurt earlier in the season. Then Cam came back 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.480 in Week three, but moving over to left tackle. That 0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.600 they really praised Richardson's play and in last year's work 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.680 with this football team, John, yea, they did. I still 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.240 believe that Richardson's likely role this year. I think he'll 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.080 wind up being the swing tackle and they moved in there. 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.120 Maybe they lost a bay he so in the off 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.440 season they were left if Cam starts and if Joan 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.360 Taylor starts, which I would expect, they were left with 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:49.120 no experience behind those guys. Richardson allowed them not to 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.560 go out and have you sign a swing tackle. So 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.280 the good news is it was a remarkably healthy offensive 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.760 line last year. Now they've got a guy who they 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.440 can plug in if there's injury. I don't know that 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:06.320 Richardson is going to beat out a Cam Robinson. If 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.640 Cam plays to his level. That's always been a big 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.560 thing that he has a level that he hasn't reached yet. 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.200 I don't know how to predict that he'll do that 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.560 or not, because he's probably better at that than I am. 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.759 But I do think that Will Richardson could be the 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.160 left tackle next year because we don't know about camp 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:29.799 situation at the end of this year. Yeah, Bucky, big 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.920 year for Cam obviously, and we're talking about a contract 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.960 here for a left tackle. If he comes out and 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.480 plays well, whether it's here or you know, next year, 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.960 whether it's here or somewhere else, we're gonna pay this 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.319 guy a lot of money. That left tackle money is 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.680 is big on the open market, even for Cam Robinson. 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.520 But this is a huge year for him to come 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.759 out and play well. Obviously, Yes, a huge year, and 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.160 if he's motivated by money, you're talking about playing well, 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.799 a sixty million dollar annual pay day that he could 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.759 be looking at. I think the big thing for Cam 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.400 Robinson is just understanding who he is and how he 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.480 plays and making sure that the offensive coordinating and the 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.839 line coaches and everybody understand what they have upfront. When 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.560 I look at this offensive line, this offensive line still 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.080 can move people off the ball. They still have the 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.359 capacity to run the ball. Well. How committed will they 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.960 be to the running game? That could determine what we 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.200 say about the office lot when it comes to their 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.560 performance and production. The arrest for the group. Of course, 0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.680 Andrew Norwell left guard veteran player in this league. Brandon 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.920 Lender has has a second contract with the Jags, a 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.040 j Can veteran in the league all with the Jaguars, 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.920 and we mentioned Juwan Taylor and Bucky. This is a 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.400 guy who had fifteen penalties last year. I think that 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.560 led the league in fact. But there is still tremendous 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.320 talent there. Obviously, just gotta work through some of the 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.839 hiccups as a young player and get some things going right. 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.680 But the future is for Jiwan Taylor on the right side. Yes, 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.239 certainly is right and what we have to understand. We 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.480 got to train our minds. Did not think about the 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.040 right tackle being different than the left tackle. The right 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.320 tackle now faces tough matchups on the outside the killio 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.560 Max Devon Miller's those guys play on that side now, 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.600 So you have to have the footwork to be able 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.880 to do it. And so when when Taylor has been 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.680 plagued by penalties, it's because his technique has been off. 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.200 Some of that will be corrected by being able to 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.480 work on it. The other part will be able to 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.879 be corrected because he is better acclimated to the pace 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.200 in the rhythm of the game. John, I'm excited to 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.479 hear from Juwan. I think he's on the schedule next 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.360 week to speak with the media over a video conference 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.959 on Microsoft Teams. His mindset has always been great. He's 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:49.800 super approachable, obviously, but he's got the mental capacity is 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.320 certainly down to to be a really, really good player 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.480 in this league for a long time. John, And you 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.600 mentioned penalties, and I get they were concerned for him 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.640 last year, but it's ranking when you talk to Jaguars 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.279 people about who the core of this team going forward is. 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.560 And I'll leave out the rookies because you don't know 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:10.000 about guys coming in. It's chart, it's Alan and it's 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.680 Juan Taylor. They feel like they've hit on those guys. 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.080 Two of them made the Pro Bowl last year, and 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.839 they feel I've never talked to anybody within the Jaguars 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.239 who doesn't think that Juan Taylor has Pro Bowl ability. 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.440 Every time Doug talked about him last year, Jaguars head 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.640 coach Doug Moron, you know, he would talk about the penalties, 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.239 but he would also say, look, I can tell that 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.920 this guy knows what he's doing. He's going to be 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.040 very very good. Again. I don't know how you find 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.320 out if he's making that jump until the season starts. 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:43.520 But those three guys are everything you want in core players. 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.319 And to me, those three, along with some other guys, 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:51.560 those three are the future of the Jaguars. To me, hey, Bucky, 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.759 do you believe in the whole cohesion with an offensive 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.239 line thing that you need some time together and that 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.680 this group is coming back from last year into this year? 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.560 Is that a real thing for you and for scouts 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:14.040 that that look at this thing, we'll get back with that. Bucky, 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:19.640 In just a moment, I lost, but I'm back down. Yeah, 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:26.279 I lost you for a minute, but I'm back. So look, 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.839 when you talk about the core, I think here's what's 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.960 apparent about the core for the Jacksonville Jaguars and turning 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.400 over newly for trying to re establish this culture. The 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.920 guys that you talk about are tough, hard working and 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.040 competitive and you always want to take chances on those guys. 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.520 And so as Doug Marone and Dave carle Will are 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.040 rebuilding this team, they want to get like minded, blue 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:50.239 collar dudes who really embrace the team concept and want 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.279 to do it the right way. It may not show 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.799 up immediately and the win lost column, but eventually they 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.239 will rebuild it, repaired, and they'll get back to where 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:03.360 Jacksonville was a few years ago. All right, John, I 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.360 know you've got to run early Sunday. What do you 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.560 have coming up in the next few days on Jaguars 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.680 dot Com. Hey, yeah, JP, we're on the field six 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.359 days in or ow. I'm just trying to get through it, 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.640 and uh, it will be covering the video conferences and 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.040 after the next six days it will be a lot 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.160 of what's going on on the field, what people are saying. 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.239 I was going on the field to me. These next 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.680 six days and a few practices after that. This is 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.960 training camp. This is the key, and I think we're 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.400 gonna find out a lot about how Doug Moron and 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:37.640 some of the leaders feel about this team. 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Miked up training 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.879 camp practice earlier this week, and the full segment will 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.200 be available very soon on Jaguars dot com and on 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.200 jack social media. Check out the guys do a great 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.560 job with the miked up segments. J P. Shadrick, Bucky 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.960 Brooks Jaguars Happy Hour continues. Bucky is great to have 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.200 you John Osier a little earlier today. We'll be back 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.560 with him, uh next week. Of course, let's touch before 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.840 we go around the league. I'm interested in like a 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.759 scouts perspective on all this college football news. You know, 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.320 the Big Ten and Pact twelve of postponed the season, 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.360 SEC Big twelve and the A C C are still scheduled, 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.480 but now schools are starting to send kids away again, 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.520 and now Ohio States talking about putting their own schedule together. 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.440 What in the world does that do, not only for 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.600 scouting staff trying to look at players, but players who 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.600 might have to decide to opt out and go to 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.560 the draft and or or play the spring. That's it's 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.000 a lot of decisions to be made, a lot of 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.960 decisions to be made. Jp first for the players. The 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.960 players that are most effective right now by the college 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.680 situation will be not the top guys, but the guys 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.960 they were developmental types. Just so we understand, the last 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.560 three number one picks when they entered the season, they 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.399 weren't viewed as first rounders, and so they worked their 0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.600 way into the conversation not only as first rounders, but 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.440 as guys they were at the top of the charts, 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.160 so we won't do that luxury this year. From a 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.480 scouting standpoint, it makes it very very difficult if you're 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.759 a Dave cold Will and you have kind of stockpiled 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.160 these uh draft hicks so that you can rebuild your 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:12.200 team with these guys. Now there's more uncertainty about the 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:16.120 readiness of the players that will be in the one class. 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.200 So how hard do you go in on those guys 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.040 when you may not have been able to see them 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.239 play for twelve to eighteen months. It makes it very 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.600 very tricky for team builders when it comes to the 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.080 one draft and how do you build your team with 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:35.319 those guys in mind? Nick Saban the other day, head 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.600 coach at Alabama, you might have heard of him. Uh, 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:43.239 He said that if these conferences moved to a one 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.840 spring season, that it could be a j V field. 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.239 Juniors and seniors might say, you know what's Sionara, I'm 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.560 not playing two seasons. I'm getting out of here. Uh. 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.439 That's gotta be tough to play a spring schedule. I mean, 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.840 especially if players are sticking around and having to se 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.400 reasons in one calendar year. That's a huge ask. I 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.440 mean it's a huge ask. But I think it can 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.360 certainly be done. Now the key will be can college 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.120 coaches find a way to come up with practice schedules 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.520 that take care of the players. But if you have 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.560 seen the change that has happened in the National Football 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.000 League when it comes to practice, you don't see as 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.960 many padded practices. You don't see a lot of live tackling. 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.600 It's more about the sports science and getting your guys 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.360 ready to play. If you took that approach with college, 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.520 you certainly can do it. It would take some alterations 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.280 when it came to the schedule. When does this spring 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.680 schedule start, when does it in? More importantly, when does 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.000 the fall portion of the schedule start, and when does 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.280 it in? It is not ideal, but it certainly is doable. 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.600 Something to watch for sure, And I think we're well 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.280 over a month until the SEC is scheduled to begin. 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.600 They just put out the schedule the other day, so 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.239 a little time, and as we know these days, a 0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.799 lot can happen in a short amount of time, not 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.879 only in sports, but around just life in general. Let's 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.359 go around the National Football League, shall we, and start 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.480 off with Joe Judge of the New York Giants making 0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:14.000 players run in response to mistakes at practice. Kim Jones 0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:15.759 was on the Zoom Call and Judge this week and 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:22.359 tweeted about the the situation there, and you responded as 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.920 well on Twitter that you know it's uh, you know this, 0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.560 here's the tweet right here, being tough ball coaching players. Um, 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.040 they're not gonna sing Kumbaya together and think we're going 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:37.040 to advance. Well, you've responded to this that he better 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.239 be real about this or they're gonna stiff it out 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.640 pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, look, I played for one 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.560 of the toughest coaches that you can find in Coach Coffin, 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.480 and I think the thing that you have to be 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.000 mindful of is when you take this approach, you have 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.480 to give real investment from the players, and that investment 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.840 calls from the results. Players will tolerate and deal and 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.680 handle the demanding nature of your coaching style if it 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.120 leads to results. However, if you're demeaning players and you 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.200 don't get the results, your players will bail quickly. So 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.200 Joe Judge just needs to make sure that he is 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.359 being himself, that this isn't an act. He's not trying 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:18.080 to imitate Bill Belichick. But these are his core values 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.719 and the things that he believes in in terms of 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.480 what helps a team win games. I would like to 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.080 think that when you played for Tom Coughlin that it 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.000 was not an act. It was that accurate. Uh, It 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.719 definitely was not an act, and it was challenging in 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:38.879 terms of growing accustomed to it. But the results were 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.319 what The results were. Won a lot of games during 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.399 that period. But it is hard to sustain it if 0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.799 the connectivity is not right between the coaching staff and 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.120 the players. I'm not saying you have to be friendly, 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.600 but there has to be some communication and some effective relationships. 0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.600 Let's continue, we go out to the desert DeAndre Hopkins 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.560 and camp for the Cardinals, but he's not participating in 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.200 padded practices. You know. On Pro Football Talk today, Mike 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.920 Florio brought up the idea that this might be a 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.799 situation where he's kind of holding off to the side 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.040 until a deal gets done. Do you think that's the 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.600 case and does he get a number close to Julio 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:22.719 Jones if he gets the news. I mean, I know 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.319 he would like to get a deal. I know there 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.800 was a point of contention while he was in Houston, 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.080 but man I don't know if you can fork over 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.799 that kind of money. Um, right now, you haven't even 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.760 seen him in your system. Uh. The Julio Jones money 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:39.320 is extraordinary. I just don't know. Look, DeAndre Hopkins is 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:43.360 certainly in that conversation. Man. To give a wide receiver 0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.920 that much money, I don't know, but I certainly understand 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:47.439 it because you want to put it around. You want 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.239 to put in a level player around Cala Murray. So 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.480 I expect the cordiners to eventually pony up when they 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:56.399 have to. It's gonna say. I mean, he is one 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.640 of if you your name and receivers right now, he's 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.880 in the top two three right here. Yeah, Michael Thomas, 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.439 m Julio Jones, whatever flavor ice cream you like, that's 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.560 who you're going to go with. Man, big money, big money. 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.360 You have to call up in the desert to keep him. 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:15.120 Start running some sprints here soon. Um, let's move to 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.400 New England, where Cam Newton, Brian Hoyer, and Jared Steadham 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.600 are reportedly splitting reps at Patriots camp. Belichick is not 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:28.080 named the starter publicly yet. This has to be Cam's gig, right, 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.920 that's not They didn't bring him there. For nothing. I mean, 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.440 I would think so. Cam is far more talented than 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.760 either candidate. We've seen Brian whore you play. It doesn't 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.160 necessarily excite you. Jared Stidham was a fourth round pick. 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.919 We don't know what it can be, but I will 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:43.960 say this, Kim was a number one pick. He was 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.359 an m v P. Unless he just absolutely stinks up 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.160 the joint, I would expect him to be the starting 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:53.160 quarterback for the Patriots. Are you concerned about his health 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.279 at all? Yes, naturally you have to be concerned about 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.240 it because the last two seasons we've seen him go out. However, 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.480 if he he's healthy, he gives the pages an opportunity 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.080 to do some stuff that they haven't been able to 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:08.040 do for years. And with Bill Belichick seeing Lamar Jackson, 0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:12.320 Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, these mobile playmakers had his success, 0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.360 I'm sure he's tempted to put in some packages for 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.759 Cam Newton to allow him to create the kind of 0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:22.120 headaches for others. Yeah, he can certainly create headaches. There's 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.200 no doubt about that. Then. Our final thought today around 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.480 the National Football League, Drew Pearson and Tom Flores selected 0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.640 as finalist for the Hall of Fame class of one. 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:36.120 Pearson selected as the senior finalist for his the senior 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.839 finalists from the coaching ranks. Pierson, of course at three 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.400 time All Pro and All Decade team member in the 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:46.800 nineteen seventies Super Bowl twelve champion with the Dallas Cowboys, UM. 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.360 And then of course Flora has played quarterback for the 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.400 Raiders in nineteen sixty. He was their first quarterback and 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.360 ended up coaching them the second winning is coaching Raiders 0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.520 history behind John Madden. Congratulations to those guys, UM. You know, 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.480 you know, obviously Pierson had a great career, But for me, 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.480 the standout moment, and at least, you know, I'm a 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.800 little younger, was his troll job on the Philly fans 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.960 at the draft that year from the stage. That was incredible. 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.520 I mean, does go jacket worthy in itself, the way 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.640 that he trolled them at their draft party. Yes, he 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.960 deserves to be in the consideration and in the Hall, 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.319 and I think this is great that he's finally made 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.000 it past the barrier. He's one step closer to getting in. 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:31.840 And then Tom Flory's certainly deserves to be in the 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:35.000 Hall of Fame. You talk about his record his second 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:39.560 highest playoff winning percentage behind Vince Lombardi. Nobody talks about that. 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.000 You think about a two time Super Bowl winner with 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.399 that kind of winner forcentage, you would like to think 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.319 that he gets in. All right. There'll be eighteen finalists 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.799 on Super Bowl weekend, including Pearson Flores a senior contributor 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.400 to be named a little bit later, and then fifteen 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.560 modern era finalists. Let's see if we get Baseli in 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.359 there this year to the vote needed. As we all 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:03.520 know by now, um, Hey, what do you think, Bucky? 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.920 First show? First show man? I loved it. I'm so excited. 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.120 I promise I'll be better next time. I have a 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.480 little more chemistry and flow. But I loved it. It It 0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:14.680 was great, all right, first time out. We've got a 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.680 lot of these to go and we look forward to 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.160 them all. We appreciate your time as always there thanks 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.040 to John Oser, our entire crew for putting these together. 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.920 For everyone involved. I'm JP Shadrick and we'll catch you 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:39.399 next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.