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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August. This is Jack Bars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now that guy who could easily shotgun a can

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Speaker 1: of gatorade or beer or six pounds standing rib roast

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Speaker 1: j Peace shiit Rick, the man's not wrong. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our our first Wednesday show of the campaign,

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Speaker 1: and we've got plenty to get to today. Bucky Brooks debut,

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Speaker 1: will get to the offensive installation and a short time

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Speaker 1: frame for this Jaguars offense. What can they get done

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Speaker 1: over the next week and a half. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the defensive attrition that has happened so far and how

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars battle that. And a report this afternoon that

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Speaker 1: a trade is from what imminent of Unike and goc Way.

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Speaker 1: We'll touch on that, and we'll go around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. John Osier, Jaguars senior writer with us as

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Speaker 1: always is on Wednesday, but we welcome in the newest

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Speaker 1: member of the Jaguars broadcast team from NFL Network and

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Speaker 1: former Jaguar, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, it's great to have you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me home, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the team. No doubt, John,

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Speaker 1: you've known Bucky for a long time, going back to

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Speaker 1: the I guess the mid nineties, right, well, we had

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Speaker 1: two years together. As writers like to say of players

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Speaker 1: they cover, uh covered Buckey nine six, part of nineties

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Speaker 1: seven with the Jags, and then you know, in the

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Speaker 1: last few years as as a lot of us to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and around the NFL have have gotten

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Speaker 1: a no Bucky again in his work, you know, through

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Speaker 1: the NFL, especially leading up to the draft. He's been

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Speaker 1: on a lot this offseason as we geared up for this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I can tell you JP

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Speaker 1: as a reporter, when I saw that Bucky was doing

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Speaker 1: well as an analyst, it didn't surprise me. He was

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Speaker 1: one of the better guys to talk to in the

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Speaker 1: better guys to talk to on television and the media now.

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Speaker 1: So Bucky, I'm looking forward to any Buddy, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the kind of words we need, some like

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Speaker 1: classic nineties six stories. We've got a whole season to

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Speaker 1: get to some of those, but you know, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to hear some of those as we move along here. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: for sure, you see his work on NFL Network the

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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast with Daniel Jeremiah. Five years of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, including some time here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't long after that, Bucky, you

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Speaker 1: went straight into media work. You were pretty quick into

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Speaker 1: it right after you retires that right well, that Scott

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Speaker 1: it for about seven years. So that kind of gave me, Um,

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Speaker 1: because I was writing so much within Man in two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven, had an opportunity to start writing for sports

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Speaker 1: to illustrate it, and away I went. But it's been

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Speaker 1: a very, very enjoyable experience and I'm really loving what

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Speaker 1: I'm about to do. What you got us. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: scouting part of it is interesting because you put you

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Speaker 1: in Daniel on a podcast together. It's like, Okay, now

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Speaker 1: you guys know exactly what you're looking for, what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to two prospects. The pre

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Speaker 1: draft process is unbelievable with you two guys. But having

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Speaker 1: that scouting background gives you an insight that not a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have. Yes, you need, man, I feel

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Speaker 1: Man uh, from Ron Wolf to some of the other

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've really learned a lot about the

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Speaker 1: business and the team building process. John. It's uh, it

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Speaker 1: is a different view of things than we would have

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Speaker 1: a little different John. To get his point of view,

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Speaker 1: there's no question. And a couple of weeks ago, when

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the the challenge here is trying to figure

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Speaker 1: And John, you bring up a great point about the

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Speaker 1: When it comes down to a cutdown. It's not like

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Speaker 1: another waiver wire, right, Bucky. That's that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: any preseason games. That's an excellent point in fact, John,

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Speaker 1: with Washington as a tight end and now has been

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Speaker 1: around this organization. I think he's on his fifth offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: That's something else. Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our JP Shadrick

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Speaker 1: John Osier for the final segment. He's gonna jump out

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Speaker 1: a little early today. Bucky Brooks with us making his

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Speaker 1: podcast network. You know he was discussing Tyler effort there

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Speaker 1: and Bucky the route running ability of a guy who

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Speaker 1: was a first round pick. So obviously he has some talent,

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Speaker 1: but the injury bug has bit effort throughout his career. Finally,

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Speaker 1: last season, he plays a full season, stays healthy. When

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Speaker 1: he's healthy and ready to roll, what can this guy

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Speaker 1: bring do a j Gruden offense. He's an outstanding steam stretcher.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that can take the top all the defense,

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Speaker 1: split the two deep zone, and really create problems between

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Speaker 1: has some wide receiver like skills. I can envision Jay

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Speaker 1: Gruden using him very much like he used a Jordan Reed. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Reed became an All Pro caliber, a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: caliber tight end under Jay Gruen because he were empty

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Speaker 1: formation out and played games with the deployment of the

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Speaker 1: tight end Tyler. Iford is athletic enough to do some

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Speaker 1: of those things, he could be a huge weapon for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense. And John, I heard you this morning, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know John scheduled, because John

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Speaker 1: whether it's here on Tintin XL radio, he is all

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Speaker 1: over the place. So I believe John, and correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm mistaken. I heard you this morning on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Drive Time, on this website and on this app discussing

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver and that his loss, now a second year player,

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Speaker 1: was banged up a lot last year. He has a

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Speaker 1: broken bone in his foot. This loss could be even

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Speaker 1: more meaningful for the Jaguars than all the defensive line changes.

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Speaker 1: Was that this morning? Was I right with them? I

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Speaker 1: think it was? And J P. Here's where I'm not

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Speaker 1: I do any shows for little money. So cowar long.

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Speaker 1: Bucky's got to teach me his game, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: dot Com and in the quick thoughts that I think

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Speaker 1: it could be as big a loss as either defensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: simply because Josh Oliver is a guy that they believe

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Speaker 1: He doesn't et me on the field. They believe he's

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Speaker 1: end who can block, who can get down the scene.

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Speaker 1: They think he had the potential of this year to

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Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford, if he's healthy, is going to love being

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville because he's gonna get every opportunity he's gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Jay Gruden knows just how to use him and from him,

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Speaker 1: and from what Middleton says, there will be no lining

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Speaker 1: line for Tyler Eifford. He will be a pass catching

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Speaker 1: tight end and if he's healthy, maybe the best one

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Speaker 1: the Jags have had in a long long time. There's

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Speaker 1: tight end. I absolutely agree. Um. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: Jake Ruten typically does from a schematic standpoint, look for

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Speaker 1: a lot of empty formations to create mismatches if they

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Speaker 1: like the young wife receiver corps, which they should with

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Speaker 1: DJ Chark and those guys. Going empty gives Tyler Eifford

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to go one on one with linebackers and

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Speaker 1: defensive backs, and that has advantaged There's been a history

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Speaker 1: having a fullback on the roster, so lining up the

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Speaker 1: But certainly not the case. There is a fullback on

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Speaker 1: a change for the offense, at least in training camp

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Speaker 1: so far. So let's uh, we've touched on tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss this offensive line a bit, and you know

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Speaker 1: it could be the same starting five to start this

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Speaker 1: season that ended last year. Uh, Tony Basselli and Pete

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Speaker 1: Prisco are with us on Monday nights, Bucky and we

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Speaker 1: line position, especially at left tackle. Of course, Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: is in his fourth year contract year. He's healthy coming

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Speaker 1: into training camp for the first time in a long time.

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Speaker 1: But there's also there might be a little competition there.

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Speaker 1: Will Richardson Jr. Has moved over to left tackle. He

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Speaker 1: n C State. But Cam Robinson seems to be the guy,

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Speaker 1: at least early in camp. That's fourth year player, he's

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Speaker 1: been around the league. What have you seen from Cam

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Speaker 1: in the last few years. There's a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: about footwork and things and and where could that stand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, robin center, Will Richardson could be your left

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Speaker 1: look at Cam Robinson, he is what we would call

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Speaker 1: a Mahler brawler type. His his best traits are to

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Speaker 1: lock on defensive ends and just kind of move them

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Speaker 1: off the ball. He is not necessarily what I would

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Speaker 1: call the technician that you want to leave on the

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Speaker 1: island down after down and pass protection. And so when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at Jake Gruden and what Jake Gruden wants

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Speaker 1: to do, he has to make a decision based on Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my office in line. They played really well going forward,

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Speaker 1: but my quarterback likes to get the ball out quick.

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Speaker 1: I think it leads us to think they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: the ball where they're gonna get the ball out quick.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna try and get it to the hands of

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Speaker 1: the playmakers and hope that the quick rhythm of the

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Speaker 1: passing game for text the offensive line from having a

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Speaker 1: block extended periods against talented players. John, It's interesting this

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Speaker 1: this change for will Richardson. He's you know, he started

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Speaker 1: a couple of games earlier in the year left tackle

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Speaker 1: in place with Cam when he would had the other

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Speaker 1: leg hurt earlier in the season. Then Cam came back

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Speaker 1: in Week three, but moving over to left tackle. That

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Speaker 1: they really praised Richardson's play and in last year's work

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Speaker 1: with this football team, John, yea, they did. I still

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Speaker 1: believe that Richardson's likely role this year. I think he'll

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Speaker 1: wind up being the swing tackle and they moved in there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they lost a bay he so in the off

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Speaker 1: season they were left if Cam starts and if Joan

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Speaker 1: Taylor starts, which I would expect, they were left with

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Speaker 1: no experience behind those guys. Richardson allowed them not to

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Speaker 1: go out and have you sign a swing tackle. So

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Speaker 1: the good news is it was a remarkably healthy offensive

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Speaker 1: line last year. Now they've got a guy who they

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Speaker 1: can plug in if there's injury. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: Richardson is going to beat out a Cam Robinson. If

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Speaker 1: Cam plays to his level. That's always been a big

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Speaker 1: thing that he has a level that he hasn't reached yet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to predict that he'll do that

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Speaker 1: or not, because he's probably better at that than I am.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that Will Richardson could be the

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Speaker 1: left tackle next year because we don't know about camp

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Speaker 1: situation at the end of this year. Yeah, Bucky, big

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Speaker 1: year for Cam obviously, and we're talking about a contract

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Speaker 1: here for a left tackle. If he comes out and

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Speaker 1: plays well, whether it's here or you know, next year,

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Speaker 1: whether it's here or somewhere else, we're gonna pay this

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Speaker 1: guy a lot of money. That left tackle money is

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Speaker 1: is big on the open market, even for Cam Robinson.

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Speaker 1: But this is a huge year for him to come

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Speaker 1: out and play well. Obviously, Yes, a huge year, and

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Speaker 1: if he's motivated by money, you're talking about playing well,

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Speaker 1: a sixty million dollar annual pay day that he could

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Speaker 1: be looking at. I think the big thing for Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson is just understanding who he is and how he

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Speaker 1: plays and making sure that the offensive coordinating and the

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Speaker 1: line coaches and everybody understand what they have upfront. When

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Speaker 1: I look at this offensive line, this offensive line still

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Speaker 1: can move people off the ball. They still have the

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Speaker 1: capacity to run the ball. Well. How committed will they

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Speaker 1: performance and production. The arrest for the group. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell left guard veteran player in this league. Brandon

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Speaker 1: j Can veteran in the league all with the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: and we mentioned Juwan Taylor and Bucky. This is a

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Speaker 1: guy who had fifteen penalties last year. I think that

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Speaker 1: led the league in fact. But there is still tremendous

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Speaker 1: talent there. Obviously, just gotta work through some of the

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Speaker 1: hiccups as a young player and get some things going right.

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Speaker 1: But the future is for Jiwan Taylor on the right side. Yes,

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Speaker 1: certainly is right and what we have to understand. We

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Speaker 1: got to train our minds. Did not think about the

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Speaker 1: right tackle being different than the left tackle. The right

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Speaker 1: tackle now faces tough matchups on the outside the killio

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Speaker 1: Max Devon Miller's those guys play on that side now,

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Speaker 1: So you have to have the footwork to be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. And so when when Taylor has been

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Speaker 1: Some of that will be corrected by being able to

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Speaker 1: work on it. The other part will be able to

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Speaker 1: be corrected because he is better acclimated to the pace

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Speaker 1: hear from Juwan. I think he's on the schedule next

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Speaker 1: week to speak with the media over a video conference

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Speaker 1: on Microsoft Teams. His mindset has always been great. He's

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Speaker 1: super approachable, obviously, but he's got the mental capacity is

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Speaker 1: certainly down to to be a really, really good player

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Speaker 1: in this league for a long time. John, And you

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Speaker 1: mentioned penalties, and I get they were concerned for him

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Speaker 1: last year, but it's ranking when you talk to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: people about who the core of this team going forward is.

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Speaker 1: And I'll leave out the rookies because you don't know

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Speaker 1: about guys coming in. It's chart, it's Alan and it's

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Speaker 1: Juan Taylor. They feel like they've hit on those guys.

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Speaker 1: Two of them made the Pro Bowl last year, and

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Speaker 1: they feel I've never talked to anybody within the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: who doesn't think that Juan Taylor has Pro Bowl ability.

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Speaker 1: Every time Doug talked about him last year, Jaguars head

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Speaker 1: coach Doug Moron, you know, he would talk about the penalties,

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Speaker 1: but he would also say, look, I can tell that

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Speaker 1: very very good. Again. I don't know how you find

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Speaker 1: But those three guys are everything you want in core players.

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Speaker 1: And to me, those three, along with some other guys,

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Speaker 1: those three are the future of the Jaguars. To me, hey, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: do you believe in the whole cohesion with an offensive

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Speaker 1: this group is coming back from last year into this year?

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Speaker 1: Is that a real thing for you and for scouts

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Speaker 1: that that look at this thing, we'll get back with that. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: In just a moment, I lost, but I'm back down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I lost you for a minute, but I'm back. So look,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the core, I think here's what's

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Speaker 1: over newly for trying to re establish this culture. The

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Speaker 1: And so as Doug Marone and Dave carle Will are

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Speaker 1: collar dudes who really embrace the team concept and want

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Speaker 1: will rebuild it, repaired, and they'll get back to where

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville was a few years ago. All right, John, I

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Speaker 1: days in or ow. I'm just trying to get through it,

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Speaker 1: I was going on the field to me. These next

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Speaker 1: gonna find out a lot about how Doug Moron and

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Speaker 1: The next few days are critical. And then that's not

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Speaker 1: you John Osier a little earlier today. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with him, uh next week. Of course, let's touch before

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Speaker 1: we go around the league. I'm interested in like a

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Speaker 1: scouts perspective on all this college football news. You know,

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Speaker 1: What in the world does that do, not only for

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Speaker 1: scouting staff trying to look at players, but players who

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Speaker 1: a lot of decisions to be made, a lot of

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Speaker 1: players that are most effective right now by the college

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Speaker 1: situation will be not the top guys, but the guys

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Speaker 1: so we won't do that luxury this year. From a

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Speaker 1: So how hard do you go in on those guys

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Speaker 1: those guys in mind? Nick Saban the other day, head

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Speaker 1: He said that if these conferences moved to a one

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Speaker 1: mean it's a huge ask. But I think it can

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Speaker 1: Something to watch for sure, And I think we're well

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Speaker 1: leads to results. However, if you're demeaning players and you

852
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Speaker 1: don't get the results, your players will bail quickly. So

853
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Speaker 1: Joe Judge just needs to make sure that he is

854
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: being himself, that this isn't an act. He's not trying

855
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: to imitate Bill Belichick. But these are his core values

856
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: and the things that he believes in in terms of

857
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: what helps a team win games. I would like to

858
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Speaker 1: think that when you played for Tom Coughlin that it

859
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Speaker 1: was not an act. It was that accurate. Uh, It

860
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: definitely was not an act, and it was challenging in

861
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: terms of growing accustomed to it. But the results were

862
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: what The results were. Won a lot of games during

863
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: that period. But it is hard to sustain it if

864
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Speaker 1: the connectivity is not right between the coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: the players. I'm not saying you have to be friendly,

866
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: but there has to be some communication and some effective relationships.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue, we go out to the desert DeAndre Hopkins

868
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Speaker 1: and camp for the Cardinals, but he's not participating in

869
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: padded practices. You know. On Pro Football Talk today, Mike

870
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: Florio brought up the idea that this might be a

871
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: situation where he's kind of holding off to the side

872
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: until a deal gets done. Do you think that's the

873
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: case and does he get a number close to Julio

874
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Speaker 1: Jones if he gets the news. I mean, I know

875
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Speaker 1: he would like to get a deal. I know there

876
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: was a point of contention while he was in Houston,

877
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: but man I don't know if you can fork over

878
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: that kind of money. Um, right now, you haven't even

879
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: seen him in your system. Uh. The Julio Jones money

880
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: is extraordinary. I just don't know. Look, DeAndre Hopkins is

881
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: certainly in that conversation. Man. To give a wide receiver

882
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: that much money, I don't know, but I certainly understand

883
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: it because you want to put it around. You want

884
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: to put in a level player around Cala Murray. So

885
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: I expect the cordiners to eventually pony up when they

886
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: have to. It's gonna say. I mean, he is one

887
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: of if you your name and receivers right now, he's

888
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Speaker 1: in the top two three right here. Yeah, Michael Thomas,

889
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: m Julio Jones, whatever flavor ice cream you like, that's

890
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Speaker 1: who you're going to go with. Man, big money, big money.

891
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: You have to call up in the desert to keep him.

892
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: Start running some sprints here soon. Um, let's move to

893
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: New England, where Cam Newton, Brian Hoyer, and Jared Steadham

894
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: are reportedly splitting reps at Patriots camp. Belichick is not

895
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: named the starter publicly yet. This has to be Cam's gig, right,

896
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: that's not They didn't bring him there. For nothing. I mean,

897
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: I would think so. Cam is far more talented than

898
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: either candidate. We've seen Brian whore you play. It doesn't

899
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: necessarily excite you. Jared Stidham was a fourth round pick.

900
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: We don't know what it can be, but I will

901
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: say this, Kim was a number one pick. He was

902
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: an m v P. Unless he just absolutely stinks up

903
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: the joint, I would expect him to be the starting

904
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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Patriots. Are you concerned about his health

905
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: at all? Yes, naturally you have to be concerned about

906
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: it because the last two seasons we've seen him go out. However,

907
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: if he he's healthy, he gives the pages an opportunity

908
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: to do some stuff that they haven't been able to

909
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: do for years. And with Bill Belichick seeing Lamar Jackson,

910
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, these mobile playmakers had his success,

911
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's tempted to put in some packages for

912
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: Cam Newton to allow him to create the kind of

913
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: headaches for others. Yeah, he can certainly create headaches. There's

914
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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Then. Our final thought today around

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00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: the National Football League, Drew Pearson and Tom Flores selected

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Speaker 1: as finalist for the Hall of Fame class of one.

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Speaker 1: Pearson selected as the senior finalist for his the senior

918
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Speaker 1: finalists from the coaching ranks. Pierson, of course at three

919
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Speaker 1: time All Pro and All Decade team member in the

920
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies Super Bowl twelve champion with the Dallas Cowboys, UM.

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Speaker 1: And then of course Flora has played quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Raiders in nineteen sixty. He was their first quarterback and

923
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Speaker 1: ended up coaching them the second winning is coaching Raiders

924
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Speaker 1: history behind John Madden. Congratulations to those guys, UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Pierson had a great career, But for me,

926
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Speaker 1: the standout moment, and at least, you know, I'm a

927
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Speaker 1: little younger, was his troll job on the Philly fans

928
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Speaker 1: at the draft that year from the stage. That was incredible.

929
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Speaker 1: I mean, does go jacket worthy in itself, the way

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Speaker 1: that he trolled them at their draft party. Yes, he

931
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Speaker 1: deserves to be in the consideration and in the Hall,

932
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Speaker 1: and I think this is great that he's finally made

933
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Speaker 1: it past the barrier. He's one step closer to getting in.

934
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: And then Tom Flory's certainly deserves to be in the

935
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You talk about his record his second

936
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Speaker 1: highest playoff winning percentage behind Vince Lombardi. Nobody talks about that.

937
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: You think about a two time Super Bowl winner with

938
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Speaker 1: that kind of winner forcentage, you would like to think

939
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Speaker 1: that he gets in. All right. There'll be eighteen finalists

940
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Speaker 1: on Super Bowl weekend, including Pearson Flores a senior contributor

941
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Speaker 1: to be named a little bit later, and then fifteen

942
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Speaker 1: modern era finalists. Let's see if we get Baseli in

943
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Speaker 1: there this year to the vote needed. As we all

944
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Speaker 1: know by now, um, Hey, what do you think, Bucky?

945
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Speaker 1: First show? First show man? I loved it. I'm so excited.

946
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Speaker 1: I promise I'll be better next time. I have a

947
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: little more chemistry and flow. But I loved it. It It

948
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: was great, all right, first time out. We've got a

949
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Speaker 1: lot of these to go and we look forward to

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Speaker 1: them all. We appreciate your time as always there thanks

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Speaker 1: to John Oser, our entire crew for putting these together.

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Speaker 1: For everyone involved. I'm JP Shadrick and we'll catch you

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Speaker 1: next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.