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Speaker 1: Welcome back, another episode of All the Smoke dugout? Well,

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Speaker 1: my man, see why running through them today? Let's go, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm in La, so I get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: this guy's greatness. Two World Series championships. Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Glassnan, thank.

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Speaker 2: You man, appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that you guys are just talking. And obviously I've

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Speaker 1: I've been on teams that you know. I was on

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Speaker 1: the Lakers when they had one tune, we were going

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Speaker 1: for three. I mean, you guys in La are playing

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Speaker 1: for rings with such a long season. What is your

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Speaker 1: approach because again, on the basketball side, we play eighty two,

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Speaker 1: you guys played one sixty two. What is the approach

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Speaker 1: on a team that knows that when it's all said none,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be playing in October most likely fingers crossed.

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Speaker 1: But is your approach any different coming into seasons than Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have been on other teams.

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Speaker 2: I think so for sure. Like early when I was

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Speaker 2: at the Rays, it was more about I feel like

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Speaker 2: I had to kind of not carry the load. But

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Speaker 2: you want to you want to go in and do

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Speaker 2: a full season, and you have like that. I want

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Speaker 2: to hit the two hundred, and you want to go

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Speaker 2: in and do all that and like have your like

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Speaker 2: the personal accolades and then be in a good position

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Speaker 2: to go into playoffs. But I think with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: like I've had injury history in the past, and like

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Speaker 2: it's been like the one sixty two has always been

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Speaker 2: a grind. But I think going in, I think their

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Speaker 2: strategy has been more like let's prioritize later in the season.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean like let's not have you pitched for

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Speaker 2: the reason, but it's like if things aren't feeling great

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Speaker 2: or you're trying to iron some stuff out, let's just

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Speaker 2: prioritize like the last month, last two months and then

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Speaker 2: head into the postseason. Because last year I did really

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Speaker 2: well in the beginning of season, I couldn't participate in

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Speaker 2: the postseason and it was like kills you. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it was this year or this last year. I got

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Speaker 2: hurt in the beginning and they were like, silver lining

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Speaker 2: is you'll be healthy by the time we go in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. And it was like I was feeling good,

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Speaker 2: feeling healthy, and I got to participate in it.

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Speaker 1: There's a little so there is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: load management in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well it is now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were starting pitching for the Dodgers, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's a low management. But I guess how tough is

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Speaker 4: that on the mental to be able to shift to that,

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Speaker 4: because in Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Like you're in it.

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Speaker 4: I know you had your fair share of injuries, but

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Speaker 4: the mentality is for a starting pitcher, go out there,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get two hundred innings. I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: get one hundred and sixties on hundred seventy innings, whatever

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Speaker 4: it may be. And then it's like you found the

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Speaker 4: perfect home for yourself from the injury histor that you had,

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Speaker 4: from what the team really needed, knowing you're going to

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Speaker 4: be in the postseason and how dominant you can be

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Speaker 4: in the World Series and how us having Tyler last

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Speaker 4: now could win us a World Series and the value

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Speaker 4: of that. So tell us about the process of when

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers even approached you and how you felt like

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Speaker 4: this would be a perfect fit for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the hardest part for me, Like

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Speaker 2: I never want to hear and I haven't had The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers haven't come up to me at all at any point,

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Speaker 2: been like, hey, let's slow it down. It just kind

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Speaker 2: you map it out to where it just so happened

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Speaker 2: to where i'd be in the postseason. But I think

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Speaker 2: I'm in that in between part of like coming up

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Speaker 2: in my brain that like I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: slower than I like I want to throw two hundred innings,

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Speaker 2: and like I want to do it as much as

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Speaker 2: I possibly can, And like I think with injuries comes lessons,

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Speaker 2: But that's still like I really want to do that,

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Speaker 2: And I think like learning how to pitch and learning

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Speaker 2: have been great with. It's like something I still I

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Speaker 2: don't want to have to like slow it down, but

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Speaker 2: if it does happen, it's the it's the best place

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Speaker 2: the postseason. So if it doesn't work out, if anything

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Speaker 2: and just be ready to go in the postseason. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's the best place to be. And as

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Speaker 2: far as going to the Dodgers, it was I was

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Speaker 2: there on a trade and then I got to sign

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Speaker 2: an extension later and it's my hometown team, so it

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Speaker 2: was like a no brainer. I knew that they wanted

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Speaker 1: Do I Santa Clarita, Yeah, okay, I just moved up

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Speaker 1: to Porter Ranch in Santa Cruz from my son's played

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Speaker 2: All nice. What where do they play? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, they're Calabasas, but we always have games inside and

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's huge football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you and my wife went to the same high school,

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Speaker 4: really very different years. Heart, I don't think you know,

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Speaker 4: but if you want, but let's relive the World Series

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Speaker 4: just a little bit before we move on to this year.

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Speaker 4: What stands out to me. The conversation was Yamamoto, which

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Speaker 4: he deserves it pitching back to back games, but you

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Speaker 4: were right there with them.

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Speaker 3: Even though it was only three pitches.

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Speaker 4: They had to be the highest stress three pitches of

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Speaker 4: your life going to the ninth inning, Game six up,

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Speaker 4: three to one. Sosaki's in the game. I'm just paying

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Speaker 4: the picture for everybody. Saki's in the game. I remember

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Speaker 4: Alejandro Kirk hitting with a O two count gets hit

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Speaker 4: by pitch Barger gets the craziest ground rule double that

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Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, and you starting

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Speaker 4: pitcher Tyler Glass now has to now enter in a

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Speaker 4: situation that has to be the worst for even a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was definitely wild because the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the game I had gone in, I'm like, kay,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go game six, Like it's it's if

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Speaker 2: I do my routine, but like not, there's no part

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Speaker 2: They called down, and I remember walking out of that

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Speaker 2: And I I, for one, I kind of if it's

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Speaker 2: But they were talking mad shit. And I hit the

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Speaker 2: then I just I kind of like not blacked out,

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Speaker 3: I always remember the uh.

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Speaker 4: I remember Miggy's reaction on the Crazy Game and in

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Speaker 4: double play, Yeah, I remember key K's clearly, and they

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Speaker 4: your reaction. What was your reaction right there?

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Speaker 2: And I didn't have one because I like, he throws

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Speaker 2: He does it all.

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Speaker 2: Have you. I think I worked with them a little

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Speaker 4: I think I think that's a great point you make,

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Speaker 4: Like all of you guys, although like you and Otani

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Speaker 2: I think for the most part, I bounce ideas off

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Speaker 2: Culturally as a whole, I think it kind of it

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Speaker 2: They're like it's like Plato, but it's strong under the

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Speaker 4: Was frowned upon if we were doing that exactly. So, yes,

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Speaker 4: You're seen like very in tune with your own body

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was younger, I would do I did

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00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,320
Speaker 2: like it was like Daycarre gymnastics. Like I don't think

436
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,080
Speaker 2: anyone looked at me and was like gymnasts. I was

437
00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,920
Speaker 2: always like a big human being. My mom's like five

438
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 2: nine two and she did in college and she coached,

439
00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,160
Speaker 2: so she if she chose a different sports, she probably

440
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 2: could have done. She's a very very good athlete. But

441
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,479
Speaker 2: she put me in everything as a kid, and like

442
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,199
Speaker 2: I'd go look at old gymnastics like home videos and

443
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 2: we're doing like ninety nineties and like like stuff baseball

444
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,880
Speaker 2: players are doing now. It's crazy how like I had.

445
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,880
Speaker 2: It was so weird. I remember looking at the video

446
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 2: of being like damn, like we're doing back bends. We're

447
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 2: doing all this stuff. And I was a huge high

448
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,400
Speaker 2: jumper and like back bends and high jump was huge.

449
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,679
Speaker 2: So I've been doing that since I was a kid,

450
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,000
Speaker 2: and like, I think a lot of my like back

451
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,359
Speaker 2: and hit mobility has come from doing that stuff. And

452
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,920
Speaker 2: my mom was my coach for a while in high jump.

453
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,879
Speaker 2: But I think as far as like the the like

454
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 2: tangible things, it's so different like from she was like

455
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 2: a it's like kinesiology major in college. Show It's like

456
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 2: the stuff you got taught back then is so much

457
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 2: different than the stuff you got taught now. It's like

458
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 2: everything is so different and it's trial and error. But

459
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 2: what I took from both of them for sure is

460
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 2: like the work ethic thing. I always remember them like

461
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 2: they still to this day. Go to the gym all

462
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 2: the time. My dad would wake up about like five,

463
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 2: go to the gym, go to work, come home like

464
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,880
Speaker 2: clockwork all the time. My mom like lives in the gym.

465
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,479
Speaker 2: They were just very like always working, and they never

466
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 2: complained and they work together and the only time they

467
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 2: ever fought was about work. So it was just a

468
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 2: constant like their relationship was very much of like, how

469
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 2: do we this thing, this problem at work? How do

470
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 2: we work together and fix it? And then they were

471
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,120
Speaker 2: both just like like business owners and they were stressed

472
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: in their own world of work, and I would see

473
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 2: them work it out and then they'd go to the

474
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 2: gym and work. Like I just saw how to like

475
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: take care of yourself mentally and physically in a healthy way.

476
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 2: And I think me and my brother both saw that

477
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: at a young age and like implemented it.

478
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 3: Young at age.

479
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like too much for sure at a young age.

480
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I had like a lazy bug in me.

481
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 2: And I think my family was good at like when

482
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 2: I was younger and I started to get good in baseball,

483
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 2: it was kind of like you like they kind of

484
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: like especially my brother something. It was like I would

485
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 2: watch him train like a madman. He's still like that,

486
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,719
Speaker 2: And I learned from That'd like you need to go

487
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 2: into the gym you need to like get it going,

488
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: and what is it.

489
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Speaker 1: You really turn on training? Because I'm mean, I know

490
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: when I came up, we never trained. We just played

491
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: all different sports and when I don't played our sports.

492
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: Now it's really specific on what you're doing. What age

493
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: did you really personally want to turn it on? Like

494
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: I hate my parents don't need to tell me, brother

495
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 1: doesn't need to tell me. I know I need to

496
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Speaker 1: do this.

497
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Speaker 2: I think junior year of high school, which is like

498
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 2: relatively late in comparison, but I was the same as you.

499
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: I played every sport like basketball, baseball, track, and it

500
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: was like I just go sports sports, do it. And

501
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: I hated running, I hate the conditioning. And then something

502
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: my junior year like flipped and I just became like

503
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: obsessed with it and I would just do it every day,

504
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 2: probably in a bad way, and I was just like

505
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 2: doing too much. But then you doesn't it doesn't matter.

506
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: When you're like sixteen, you can do anything. You will

507
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: coverts like bounce back. Yeah, which is is a.

508
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 4: Weird dynamic because you're known as you're a skate guy

509
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 4: and a skater guy, and like normally a skater guy

510
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: in the weight rooms, pass and even the people that

511
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: you hanging out with, yeah, are normally not going to

512
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 4: be people that are going to be attracted to the

513
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 4: gym exactly. So did you have a moment where you

514
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: had to separate yourself from it a little bit? And

515
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 4: how did you bring that culture with you when you

516
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 4: were identified more as a baseball.

517
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: Player but you still at heart, yeah, a skater guy.

518
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: I early on, like I skated from like fourth grade

519
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: to ninth grade, and I remember I was always like

520
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: pretty much in the like I think like culturally, and

521
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: my friends were always like in the skate type of

522
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: like my good friends still now for high school, all

523
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: the guys I skated with, I still have good friends

524
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: from baseball, but like the people I really keep up

525
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: with and still hang out with, Like even now in

526
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: spring my best friend I skated with is like four

527
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 2: doors down for me. So like I'm still very much

528
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: that at heart. But I knew going into even in

529
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: like fifth grade, I was like, when I go to

530
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: high school, I'm done skating. Like I knew it early on.

531
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: I loved it. I would skate hours and hours a day,

532
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: but I loved I knew like baseball was a career,

533
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: Like I could actually I can't go make money skating.

534
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: I could make money playing baseball or go to college

535
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: at least. So the second my freshman year started, or

536
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: I was in eighth grade summer camp to go play football,

537
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done skating, and I just dropped

538
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: it and I never did it again. Or I would

539
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: do couple here and there, But I was fully focused

540
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: on base and.

541
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 3: Of the major sports, you knew it was baseball.

542
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I was either track and field or baseball.

543
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: But like to the I'm not making money in tracking, Yeah,

544
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm not doing the future. But I liked it.

545
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: Obviously, huge Japanese presence on your guys side. I came

546
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: up in locker rooms where no way it was off limits,

547
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: Like do you guys have fun? Talk ship to them?

548
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: If they do, If you do, how do they react,

549
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: how do they take it? Like what is that interaction like.

550
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: When it's not the game, just like the banter in between,

551
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: Yea's all the same, nothing's off limits. That's so I

552
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: feel like to as a baseball player, as an athlete,

553
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: like we're very fortunate to have that. My whole life

554
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: has just been that, like there's no you can do this.

555
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: You can't do that. There's no like hr type of thing.

556
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: So you really you develop like a good sense of

557
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: humor and tough skin and like and learn how to

558
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: talk ship yourself exactly like you know, exactly, Like it's

559
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: a good It can't just be like, well, I'm gonna

560
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: tell on you and then now this is going to

561
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: be a thing. It's like you kind of have to

562
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: learn how to.

563
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: Become language all you do. Yeah, but the fee from the.

564
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great, like they'll they got tough. Like we

565
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: everyone talks shit to everybody and it's like, you know,

566
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: it's out of love. You're not like trying to be mean,

567
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: so it's no one cares. Everyone's like talking, especially Keik

568
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse, like he's talking shit to everybody. So

569
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: it's perfect keep loose and.

570
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: It has to be a dream come true for you

571
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: to be a Solkhac kid.

572
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, playing for the Dodgers was that was the dog

573
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: where the Dodgers always your squad.

574
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, growing up, we live like thirty five minutes, which

575
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: could be like two hours to the field, so like

576
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: we would go to games sparingly, but like on weekdays

577
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: generally and like lead before traffic. But I've always liked them.

578
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: We'd always go to games. I remember watching games in

579
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: the backyard of my dad all the time, and it.

580
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: Was like I always liked to dottery not only a

581
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: hometown team, but when with your hometown team, that's got

582
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: to be different.

583
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: Insane, yea crazy, And I think it'll really sink in

584
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: when I'm like done.

585
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: And had that moment yet. Have you had that moment

586
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: standing on the mound looking around like.

587
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think comparatively, because there's been some postseasons that

588
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: I haven't won, and you go into the off season,

589
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: Like with the Rays, you go to the off season

590
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 2: and it stings for like three months, like you think

591
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: about I wake up in the middle of the night

592
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: like damn, Like you know what I mean. Like if

593
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: you don't pitch well this or that, there's always like

594
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: that ruminating thing that happens randomly, like you get a

595
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: little anxious thought of like it just got you think

596
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: about it, and it's like a little virus that's always there.

597
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: And you didn't win, and you think about it and

598
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: it's it's like I'll be at Thanksgiving dinner, like having

599
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: a good conversation, I'm like, oh we lost. Yeah, like

600
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: so it's just I can I can feel that, and

601
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: then after twenty five feeling that at Thanksgiving being like,

602
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: oh my god, we want like I pitched on, I participated,

603
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: and so it's cool to feel the contrast of both.

604
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: But I think the real zoom out part of it'll

605
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: be when I'm done, and I'll appreciate it a lot more.

606
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: What's the Atini experience been, Like, I mean, arguably the

607
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: most famous athlete on the planet.

608
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that like? Just a day to day traveling

609
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: with that and seeing it. He's a man, he's he's

610
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: kind of a unicorn in a sense of obviously, like

611
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: his physical talents and stuff, but his like, like the

612
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: mental fortitude part is pretty insane. Like I think for

613
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: the most part, when you're around you know this when

614
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: you're around dudes for seven months a year, Like how

615
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: up and down people can be. And there's all different

616
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: flavors of up and down, but everyone has like good

617
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: and bad days. Some people are a lot more volatile

618
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: than others. But some people hide it, but no doubt

619
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: you can tell. But with him, I really have. It

620
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: helps when he hits like four hundred and a million

621
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: home runs every year, but he's had some tough times

622
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: and bad starts and things have gone on, and he's

623
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: the same even dude all the time. And he does

624
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: the same thing on the flight. He's always smiled, smiley, happy.

625
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: He has to do like all the extra media compared

626
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: to what we do after the game. He's got like

627
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: five hundred people sitting there talking to him. He's always smiling,

628
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: he's always respectful, and he's just like he's it's crazy,

629
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: like he'll he sits on the flights no matter how

630
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: long they are, and he reads comic books. It's crazy,

631
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't look at like electronic screen. He does

632
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: like it's like perfect. It's crazy. He just reads comic

633
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: books and sleeps and sleeps like so much. I'll ask

634
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: him how many hours of sleep. He guess He's like

635
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: eleven hours, Like no problem.

636
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: That's part of the culture. I guess.

637
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

638
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 4: I remember being teammates play with him with the Angels

639
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 4: when he was a rookie and seeing his ability to

640
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 4: make adjustments, never get down on himself. Like he has

641
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: is this interconfidence of knowing everything is gonna work out,

642
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: like things that you would tell your boy, like you

643
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: know you're gonna be fine.

644
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: You know.

645
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: It's like he knows that.

646
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he decides early in the season, all right,

647
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: who am I gonna be this year? If he has

648
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: Tommy John and he know he won't be able to pitch,

649
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna be a slugger, stolen based guy. Yeah,

650
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: all right, well this year I'm gonna pitch. All right,

651
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: I'll take it back on the stolen bases. I'll, you know,

652
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: be able to mix and match do this. But to

653
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: see somebody have to balance out the workload of locking

654
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 4: in and all the work that goes into it being

655
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: a starting pitcher and flip it on as soon as

656
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: he gets through the ending, he has to turn it

657
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: on and go to the back rack, get his helmet,

658
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: get his back and be locked in. For one of

659
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: the nastiest pictures in the game. Because everybody's discussing these days,

660
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: like how do you feel like he's able to manage

661
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: the mental workload that that that comes with it and

662
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: have some level of personal life or do you just

663
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: not have a personal life.

664
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

665
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't you have to ask him. I'm not sure

666
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: what his personal I mean, he's married as a kid,

667
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: like he loves his dog and his dog as well

668
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: try so clearly, there's some times I think it's sleeping

669
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: comic books. I don't know, like I don't know what

670
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: else he's doing, but he just seems I don't know,

671
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, like what he does all the time

672
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: at home, but he's always chilling on the road and

673
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: just hanging out. And I'm not quite sure everything. But

674
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: I think for the two most obvious things are like

675
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: the sleep.

676
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: I think.

677
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: For you personally, starting off with Pittsburgh, going through you know,

678
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: being a top tier prospect, huge expectations, has some success,

679
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: had a little time in the bullpen, going to Tampa

680
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 4: and then going to the Dodgers, And this is something

681
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 4: I wanna talk to you about too, Matt, Like you

682
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 4: went to two of the best organizations that you could

683
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: possibly go to as a pitcher. The Rays and the

684
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: Dodgers are both well known organizations when it comes to

685
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: getting the finding out what a pitcher does best and

686
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: being able to get him to do that on the

687
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: field and have a lot of success. How much do

688
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: you think and you can answer it this too. Afterwards,

689
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: the organization that you're with can somewhat predict or enhance

690
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: the player that you end up becoming. And I think

691
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: it's a wide range of the type of player you

692
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: end up becoming, dependent on the organization that you're with.

693
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're sample sized this based off

694
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: of the things you've done, like in Pittsburgh, if you

695
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: were to because these algorithms are crazy. I don't know

696
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: if you've seen these things, but they can like take

697
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: a player and be like, this is what he'll do

698
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: this year, and they're generally pretty active really for the

699
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: most part. And the biggest one that I've seen is

700
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: they'll take a team because there's more variables, like twenty

701
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: six guys, and they'll plug it in and be like

702
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: they'll win seventy seven games, and by the end of

703
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: the year they are like at least two to three

704
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: games above or below. It's insane. So I think if

705
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: you take like if in Pittsburgh you took all of

706
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: the data collected for me, like I had really good stuff,

707
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: but you punched it in and you'd be like, this

708
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: guy just doesn't throw strikes and he sucks a little bit,

709
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Like you could just make that pretty obvious. I was

710
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: really good to minors, but I just couldn't do whatever

711
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: it was mentally or whatever it was. I just wasn't

712
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: confident with Pittsburgh at all, but they could still kind

713
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: of get your raw talent. I think Tampa was, Yeah,

714
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Tampa was the best at that early on, like they

715
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: like in Tampa, you'd see our clubhouse was, however many

716
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: twenty six people, and then their R and D team

717
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: was like fifty. Like you'd go up into these the

718
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: front offices or like the upstairs, and they had like

719
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: they put just as much money into R and D

720
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: as they did into the players, because like, if we

721
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: spend forty mili on players, we maybe win. We get

722
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: like one or two more guys win like three games.

723
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: But if we can put forty mil into R and D,

724
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: we might win like ten. So they were like gung

725
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: ho on trading for me, and I knew some play

726
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: previous years they wanted me, and I never got traded,

727
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: and then they got me, and they were so stoked,

728
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: like just me getting traded and how excited they were.

729
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: I was like that helped me, Like my confidence was good,

730
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, you're starting tomorrow. I'm like I'm

731
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: in the bullpen at this point, like in the worst

732
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: role in the bullpen, like You're gonna start tomorrow against Angels,

733
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: and I was like what it was just I flew

734
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: in and they would just poured so much confidence into me,

735
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: and we're like, hey, you have really good stuff set

736
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: up down the middle, stop with the sinker slider stuff.

737
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Just throw the ball down the middle and like throw

738
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: a strike and they're probably not going to hit it.

739
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: And then my first start it was like four innings,

740
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: nine k's, and then the next I just was like

741
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: going and I'd have some dips and but for the

742
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: most part, I was like kind of shoving, and so

743
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: I just was like, I'm gonna listen whatever these guys

744
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: have to say. And just the attitude overall with them.

745
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It wasn't. There was no like fakeness. There

746
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: was no like haikups. And some places do you'll have

747
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: like the the haikup, like the whatever organizational name, and

748
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: they'll have like loyal and it's just like they're like,

749
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: are you play baseball? Just don't worry about all the

750
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: other stuff, like come in, have fun. It's not that

751
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: big of a deal and play baseball. Was very much

752
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: like are you good or are you bad? That's all

753
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: we care about and it was just freed me up

754
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: a ton. And then I learned a lot there and

755
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: went to the Dodgers and it's crazy there.

756
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: Very similar or do they function different?

757
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: It's similar in the fact that Friedman was the GM

758
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: of the Rays, so I think like the template, like

759
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: the foundation is the same. It's analytics based more so

760
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: I think in Tampa like they lean on the analytics more.

761
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: And what I've noticed with the Dodgers is it's a

762
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: lot more like Doc is. It's emotional and analytical. They

763
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: don't go all in on one. He'll kind of take

764
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: all that stuff into account, but then he'll use his

765
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: like baseball expertise to make decisions where he thinks he

766
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: needs to, or the coaches in general, and the front

767
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: office too. Even Andrew is very analytical, and they're really

768
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: good at all the database stuff, but he's still very

769
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: much like he knows the game and he's and he'll

770
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: let like the emotional stuff is also very real. And

771
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: I think that's why they do so well in the postseason,

772
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: because you can control all the controlled variables. Work very

773
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: well in a controlled atmosphere like one hundred and sixty

774
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: two game season, but when you go into the postseason,

775
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: like I remember, I'm not gonna name any names. In Tampa.

776
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: After we lost in twenty twenty, someone in like the

777
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: analytic department was like, you know what I've I've noticed

778
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: is like, I really do think there is like an

779
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: emotional part to this game. And I was like, just now,

780
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: you think.

781
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: That's why you have to have You can have an

782
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: amazing analytical department, but you still have to have somebody

783
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: who can take that information and translate it to the

784
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: first year to where you can actually, yeah, capture that.

785
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: Does that? Does that exist in basketball?

786
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: The analytics side the human parts of where.

787
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: You feel like if I'm with this team, I may

788
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: become this player, but if I'm with this team, I'll.

789
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Become Unfortunately, you know, my first handful of years I

790
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: wasn't with very good organizations, but they stick out like

791
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: a sort thum when you get to them. I'd probably

792
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: say the first good organization I was with that was

793
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: used to winning with the Lakers, and it ran a

794
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: completely different way than other organizations. The expectations were high.

795
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I was playing with Phil Jackson and Cobe and you

796
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: name it. So I'm in year eight or nine by then,

797
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: so you just want to bring it out. It's going

798
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: to bring out the best in you. And then I

799
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: circled back around the Golden State and won a championship

800
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: before I retired. And I was there earlier where it

801
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: was terrible. Different ownership. This time around, they took care

802
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: of absolutely everything. It freed your mind on tickets traveling

803
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Bro, they had a whole giant seven

804
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: forty seven. Your family jumped on it for free, and

805
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: the hotels were free, and the tickets were all taken,

806
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: like you don't have to worry about anything but playing basketball.

807
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: So on those days with that team, that's when Katie

808
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: was there too, Like even the off days that the

809
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: gym was full, like you wanted to come in and

810
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: get your work, your treatment, your shots or whatever it was.

811
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: So there definitely are organizations, and I think obviously they're

812
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: more pivotal early on. But like I said, I didn't

813
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: get any good organizations early on, but I got to

814
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: taste some of those greatness later on. And you can

815
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: see that the teams that have the championships, the Laker

816
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Dynasties and the and the Golden State run that they

817
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: went on. It starts at the top and it's just

818
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: a completely vibe, different energy, approach techniques than when I

819
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: played four And I don't even mention any of the

820
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: piss poor organizations I played for. But when you play

821
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: for those organizations, you can tell why they're not why,

822
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: you can tell why they're not winning. So yeah, definitely,

823
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: I think of the translators.

824
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: And you have Mark Pryor over there with the Dodgers

825
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: and somebody who's been there, done that has the experience

826
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: one of the best at the time when he was

827
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: doing at the top of his game, top five guy. Yeah,

828
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: you know, having him as a pitching coach, what does

829
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: that bring to us staff? And how much are y'all

830
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: chopping it up trying to talk through things and allow

831
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: you to make adjustments a lot.

832
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. He's we've I think to

833
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: the longer I'm there, Like we develop a relationship together

834
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: and understand each other a lot more, and like it's

835
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: the best we have. Connor McGinnis to whichs cool about

836
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: the Dodgers is like it's not like a traditional They

837
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: have like two pitching coaches and then you have some

838
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: people in the front office that can help you, and

839
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: you have like guys in the minor leagues that are

840
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: good at like movement, and so it's like if you're

841
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: messed up at all, you have so many different resources

842
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: to go to And I can go to Mark and

843
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: go to Connor, I can go to a bunch of

844
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: different people and be like what do you think about this?

845
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: And they're open and they're cool about you getting information

846
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: from different places and like they just want you to

847
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: be as good as you possibly can't can be, and

848
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: like Mark is good at that too. There's not an ego,

849
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: there's not like a it's not like you have to

850
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: get all this information from me and only me. It's like,

851
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: go and find what you need to find. And he's

852
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: so good at facilitating and taking that information and working

853
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: like with you on it. But he's the best, Like

854
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: I think too, like the he's so good at like

855
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: the end game stuff, and like he's a dude who

856
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: watches me warm up, and like as you have more

857
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: reps in front of a coach, they start to learn

858
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: you more, and like it doesn't take as long of like, oh,

859
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: what do you think about this? And this? And that

860
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: He'll just be like I'll be like what do you think?

861
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: And he kind of gives me that that queue or

862
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: that thing that he knows I like, and you just

863
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: start to roll from there and like he's a good

864
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: resource to have in between innings, like I always bounce

865
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: stuff off of him between and Connor McGinnis is amazing too,

866
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: with like if I'm in between innings, I'm like, how

867
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: is my heater today? If I'm cutting a little bit

868
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: on it, I know that I'm not, I'm like ripping

869
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: open and that then affects my slider, that affects my curveball,

870
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: and there's all these things. They're like remember the things

871
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: you say and then all right, well you said that

872
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: in last game when you said that, now you can

873
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: do this, and so you're just it's like this workshop

874
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: in between innings. And it's like every time I talk

875
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: to him in between innings, like if it's not this

876
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: tangible physical adjustment, it's like a nice like all right,

877
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: we've kind of iron through this thing. We've talked a

878
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: little bit, and then on my next inning and go

879
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: out and like attack a guy differently, and it's just

880
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: it's just a sick little workshop that got gone. Is

881
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: that a picture thing though?

882
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: Because it sounds like you sought out, like you want

883
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: the feedback, you want the information.

884
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: I know.

885
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: I obviously my sport is different, but as position players,

886
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: the position players look for as much back and forth

887
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: with coaches.

888
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: That more picture thing. I think it's unique to the

889
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: end of visual because I know some pictures that go

890
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: like get away from I own. You only look like

891
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: you want to talk to anybody exactly, And I think

892
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: that's like, if that works for you, that works for you.

893
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: I think certain dudes think if you think less generally

894
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: in competition mode, like thinking less is probably good, and

895
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: I like doing it in between innings, but on the mound,

896
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm not really trying to locked in. I'm trying to

897
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: just go and let my body. Like if I'm not

898
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: consciously thinking, I feel like I'm operating in my subconscious

899
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm move moving smoothly and like everything's going well. And

900
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: then the times I'm not good, I'm like stiff, thinking about, okay,

901
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: is this messed up? Is this you know what I mean?

902
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: Same as hitting Oh yeah, probably more for sure, And

903
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: I think it's like that takes confidence with that the

904
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: days you don't have it, just being like fuck it,

905
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: like I'm going to go out and relax and just

906
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: even if I don't have my normal mechanics, if I

907
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: can stay loose, it's going to be better than not.

908
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy how difficult it is sometimes when you're not

909
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: when something is off, you just like you get into

910
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: like I can fix it mode, as opposed to being

911
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: like this is what I got and I'm going to

912
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: be loose with it. And so I think the best

913
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: ones can just be like this is what I got today.

914
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Being at piecewitcher game is important for.

915
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: When you have so much experience in knowing what works

916
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: for you and you fill a team with guys. If

917
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: you took a lot of guys from your team and

918
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: put them on a squad, they would be the leader.

919
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: Of that team.

920
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: But when you put all those guys onto one team,

921
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: move Freddie, Oh Tani, tuck yourselfs on and on. But

922
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: you understand what I'm saying. When you have that many

923
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: leaders in one clubhouse, is there's still a leader needed

924
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: or if somebody if something needs to be said, who

925
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 4: is the guy amongst all of those guys that will.

926
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Be the one to say something.

927
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: I think it probably depends on the situation or what

928
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: it is. Like. Miggy's very vocal. I feel like as

929
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: far as like off field, not off field, but like

930
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: away from the field, clubhouse stuff. Miggie he's like the

931
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: mic guy and he's doing a lot of that stuff.

932
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: But it is like leadership stuff too. It's not all

933
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: about like the like talking about it. It's like lead

934
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: through example, like Freddie. You watch him go about his

935
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: business and like how he does everything. He's like methodical

936
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: with everything and like the work, and the consistent thing

937
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: amongst all those guys is the work they put in.

938
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Like they're at the same place every day doing the

939
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: same stuff. Like there's not this like I'm tired, I'm

940
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: gonna maybe it's like baseball is such a routine oriented

941
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: sport and it's such a marathon game. There's never like

942
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: a wasted rap. Like you watch Mooki go do his

943
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: thing in the infield before and like you watch him

944
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: go hit, you watch him do this, You watch show

945
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: Hey do his thing, you watch Freddy do his thing,

946
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: and it's just vast differences with everything, but it's so

947
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: similar in their little circle, like they're doing it and

948
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: they're so locked in of what they're doing. It's like

949
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: the second nature subconscious operation and it's it's just crazy.

950
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: So you see that if you're a young guy, like

951
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: you're leading by example and like none of those guys

952
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: are afraid to say anything, like everyone is a leader

953
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: in their own way. But I think it's in a

954
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: room full of veterans, like you know what you gotta do,

955
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: and if shit hits the fan, you gotta have a

956
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: meeting or whatever. Everyone's in there ready to like collaborate

957
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: and figure out whatever they need to figure out.

958
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: And when everybody's moving like that and that, then a

959
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: lot of times never needs to be said because usually

960
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: this entire culture has been built over there. It's where

961
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: you know the expectation when you walk in and y'all

962
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: have become this evil empire that everybody talks about. Granted,

963
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: if y'all would have lost it to RUNO, I don't

964
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: know if it's still the same storyline. But you want,

965
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: like you went back to back, you're going for a

966
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: three p at this point? Do you just embrace being

967
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: the avil evil empire? So many conversation Dodgers are bad

968
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: for baseball. You know, it's not it's not fair. What

969
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: are your thoughts when you hear all those things say?

970
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that is so much more

971
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: for like the outside of the clubhouse type of thing.

972
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: It's like a fan narrative type of it's fun, like

973
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: that's that sh it's fun, like it's exactly exactly, but

974
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: it's like that's not I don't think how. I don't

975
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: know how much like players are like looking at all

976
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: that and like thinking about it because you already got

977
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: so many things to think about, you know what the

978
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: season is like I gotta worry about my swing. I

979
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: gotta worry about this. It's like I think it's more

980
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: for the It's like wrestling. You got like the heel

981
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: you got that you need that, like it's good for baseball.

982
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: I think it's just we're there to play. You signed

983
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: your contract, you're a professional. You go and you play,

984
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: and it's not my problem to think if we're evil

985
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: or not. It's like it's you want to play for

986
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and you sign a contract, you play, you

987
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: do what you gotta do, like no one if you

988
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: really think about it and strip it away like put

989
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: yourself on our shoes like you would do it too,

990
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna like if you're you want to go to

991
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: the best organization and you want to win and you

992
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: want to like learn from the and it just so

993
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: happens a team that's winning the most is also the

994
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: best at everything. And if you want to be the

995
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: best possible player, you're incentivized to go to I want

996
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: everyone knows in the league. Like if you if you're struggling,

997
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: you at a bad year and you're a free agent

998
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: or something, it's like if I can go to the

999
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: Dodgers and like learn from what they have to offer,

1000
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: or like another like ash. There's a lot of different

1001
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: organizations that have a reputation of like if you can

1002
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: go there and they can kind of mess with what

1003
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: you're doing or like give you a different view of

1004
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: how to pitch or like maybe hold it this way

1005
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you go there to be the best

1006
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: you possibly can be. It's hard not it's like I'm

1007
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: not going to go there because they're evil. It's like

1008
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: I want to be good.

1009
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: I want to tell true because you know the organizations

1010
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: yeah that players go to die too. Yeah, organizations like yeah,

1011
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: he's probably on his last season.

1012
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: Exactly see behind the mic soon? Yeah, is this year

1013
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: nine or ten for you? So I have like just

1014
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: it under nine years now, so sitting where you are

1015
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: as a veteran, what do you wish you knew? What

1016
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: is something you know now that you wish you knew

1017
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: coming into the game.

1018
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: It's not that serious, I think, if I could tell

1019
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: myself that is because I was so even talking on

1020
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: like when I was younger, like the mores more thing.

1021
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: I was so like, if I'm not nervous about it

1022
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: all the time, then I don't care type of thing

1023
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 2: like I have to think about this and stress about

1024
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: it all day long. And I, for some reason in

1025
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: my little kid brain, I just like thought, you know

1026
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: what I mean, It's like, well, if I'm thinking about it,

1027
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: it's like I clearly I care, and I so I

1028
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: just would like away from the field. I would like

1029
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: try to study and do things I could do. It

1030
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: would do mechanics all the time. And it was just

1031
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: like this all consuming thing that like took me away

1032
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: from my personal life for me more just enjoying the

1033
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: exenjoying which there is none of that. I was like

1034
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: dominant in the minor leagues and I think back to

1035
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: the minor leagues and it makes my my fucking hair

1036
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: stand up. I like so anxious I would die I

1037
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: had like a one era in most of my minor

1038
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: league seasons, and I think back when I was like miserable, But.

1039
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: It worked for you because it's like I kind of

1040
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 4: fell in that same boat, like, yeah, I did all

1041
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: the extra work because I never wanted anything in the

1042
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: back of my mind if it didn't work out to

1043
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: be like damn you exactly.

1044
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: So how did that change? Like what you find in

1045
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: that freedom? Now?

1046
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: How did that change your routine from when you were

1047
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 4: in the minor leagues to now? How did you change

1048
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: how you go about it to allow yourself to have

1049
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: more freedom and have more of a life while still

1050
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 4: giving the game what it deserves.

1051
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: I think it's like you you have your plan for

1052
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: the day, so you say it's a five day routine.

1053
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: I do what I have to do at the field,

1054
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: and then it's when it's done. The things that I

1055
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: can control are over, then I have to move on.

1056
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: It's harder said than done. But like if I can

1057
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 2: find a clear separation in my schedule of like, Okay,

1058
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: this is the physical stuff and the thinking stuff ultimately

1059
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: end here, Like all I can do is think and

1060
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: do physical stuff up to this point, and then if

1061
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it after this point, that's just a

1062
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: it's a detriment on what I'm doing. I'm going home

1063
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: and like I'm not getting any better doing mechanics in

1064
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: the mirror, I'm not. I'm getting a lot worse if

1065
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm doing anything like So I think it was just

1066
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: finding that and trying to stick to it, and it

1067
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: doesn't always work. You get those like I gotta do

1068
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: something type of thing. But I think the more I

1069
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: would like just be consistent with that and and failing

1070
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: for me was the biggest shifter, Like doing all that

1071
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: stuff and putting all that extra work in and then

1072
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: going into seventeen and being like the worst pitcher in

1073
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: the league. I was like something's kind of changed, Like

1074
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: this shit's not working. So I got sent down in

1075
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen, and I remember as I like we

1076
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: were in Triple A and like we're going out to bar,

1077
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: and I was like all right, and I would just

1078
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: start to like live my life. I'm telling people to

1079
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: go out and drink. But I had a nice separation

1080
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: of like you work and then you're allowed to go

1081
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: have fun when you write an off day or something,

1082
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: and it just changed everything. You got to enjoy the

1083
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: journey though, for sure.

1084
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: And I think that's we can sit back and say

1085
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: that once we're done, because you're in the myst and

1086
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: like you said, you'll probably appreciate stuff when you're done

1087
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: and you look back. But enjoying understanding the journey is

1088
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: the most important and the funnest part of all of

1089
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: this because it's it's not like you're I mean, you're

1090
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: already your nine, so you're beat the odds, you know,

1091
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: hopefully another you know eight nine other you know, play

1092
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: as long as you want. But just the journey during that,

1093
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I think is a hard time. I think is current.

1094
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Like when you're in the moment, you kind of forget, like, okay,

1095
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: let me just enjoy this shit too, because it's it's dope.

1096
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: Give me your obviously a very routine oriented guy. Give

1097
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: me your game day routine from the time you wake

1098
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: up until you throw your first pitch. For fans that

1099
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: are interested in that, I'll go, I'll wake up.

1100
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: Generally, what are you eating, what's going on? If it's

1101
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: a night game, I'll wake up and I'll eat up breakfast.

1102
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: Then I'm not hungry at all, Like the day before.

1103
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: I don't have issues even when I'm at like my

1104
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: worst nervousest, Like I can sleep the day before. It's

1105
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: never been like an issue. Some guys it's hard for

1106
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: them to sleep. But I'll get like a good night

1107
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: sleep usually the day before. And then I wake up

1108
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: and I get a breakfast. It's usually like a ton

1109
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: of eggs. It's like not fried potatoes, like a carb,

1110
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: like a starchy carb, a bunch of fruit, some protein,

1111
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: and just like I'll try to load up on the

1112
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: calories in the day because it just gets harder, and

1113
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: already eat as the game gets closer. Some home before

1114
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: I go to the field, I do like a twenty

1115
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: minute my whatever you want to call it mindfulness. I

1116
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: just sit in like silence and watch all the shit

1117
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: go on in my brain and try to like bring

1118
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: it back to just let it do it at once,

1119
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: but try to observe it in a way like not

1120
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: get carried away and all like my nervous thoughts. And

1121
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: then I'll drive to the field. Always a podcast, it

1122
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: could be something whatever.

1123
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: I just want to like a lot of time not

1124
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: to get you off. So say this is a seven

1125
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: o'clock pitch, what time are you head into the field.

1126
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm leaving for the field. If it's a seven o'clock game,

1127
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm leaving at to be traffic generally at like twelveth

1128
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: no day on a game, probably one thirty, I'll leave.

1129
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: I'll get to the field at like two thirty ish

1130
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: three sometimes if traffic sucks, so I'm podcast on the

1131
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: way there trying to like externally focus on something else,

1132
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 2: just like not go internal yet. I get to the field,

1133
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I go and I get food again, like I'll wrap

1134
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: a turkey something. I'm at this point, I can't eat,

1135
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm smoothie, whatever it is. I go. I either, depending

1136
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: on how I feel, I'll like roll out or I'll

1137
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: just go straight to like we have like a nap

1138
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: room and I'll do like I'll either like the Immortal

1139
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: or I'll lay down and try to take a nap

1140
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: and do like another little mindfulness thing. And then I'm

1141
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: going on the training table. It's like two hours and

1142
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: ten minutes before I think so, and then I'm on

1143
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: there for like forty minutes doing whatever, fixing whatever issues

1144
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: you have in the middle of the season, trying to

1145
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: do that electron plus is this thing we do, or

1146
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: it's soft tissue or whatever. And then I go upstairs,

1147
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: put my pants on, socks on, no belt, no, no,

1148
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: it's just because I'm about to go roll out out

1149
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: of my belts. It's annoying, so I cleave the belt off,

1150
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: I roll out, I do my warm up. It's about

1151
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: thirty five forty minutes every day, waited balls, and I

1152
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: go back upstairs, belt cleats, walk around a little bit

1153
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: more like take it easy. Sit in this little coaches room.

1154
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: I sit in, and then at the third I have

1155
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: to look at my phone at the exact time, but

1156
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: it's thirty five minutes before. It's ten minutes window before,

1157
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: ten minutes on the mound, ten minutes of throwing, and

1158
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: there's way of balls before. So about thirty five minutes

1159
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: I throw, and then I mound, and then I have

1160
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: ten minutes to sit in that little office before I

1161
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: go out and just chill. I got a little fan

1162
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: i'd think called the cool met. If I'm sweating my

1163
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: beak off, I'll go and and like get cold, chill,

1164
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: just try to be as calm and as focus as

1165
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: I can, and then I head up, get out, dap up, Freddy,

1166
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: dap up tail. I everyone there right now, yeah, right now,

1167
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: I want try to track a joke or something, and

1168
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: even tho, I'm like, I'm doing something and then we

1169
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: go up to go and then and then I'm ready

1170
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: to go.

1171
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: What if somebody throws your clock off? Fine?

1172
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: I used to maybe care about that in the in

1173
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: the minor leagues and stuff, but like some of my

1174
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: best games, I would fuck up my clock. Like in

1175
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: spring last year, I dominated I had like a fifteen

1176
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: minute window where I messed up, and they were like,

1177
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: you got to pitch in ten minutes, and I was like,

1178
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: here we go, good and I just And that was

1179
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: another thing I talked about with the postseason, like as

1180
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: routine oriented as I am, the best games I've had

1181
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: is when I get thrown off of the clock, it's crazy,

1182
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: like if it just had like no routine, I'm all right,

1183
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: I guess I gotta go pitch now, and it's like

1184
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 2: I just feel good.

1185
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: Thoughts on just what the game is done today with

1186
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: the pitch clock and and and no shifts, they've they've

1187
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: taken drastic measures to kind of change the league as

1188
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: a pitch Sure, yeah that's not necessarily for you, more

1189
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: for the better.

1190
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: How do you feel? And obviously you have to adapt,

1191
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: but put your thoughts on it. I think like since

1192
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: the beginning or when they started making rule changes in

1193
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: like the seventies and stuff, they generally like cater to

1194
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: however its swings. If offense is really good, they'll help

1195
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: out the pitches a little bit more. If the pitchers

1196
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: are dominating, they're going to go a little bit more.

1197
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: Like like Randy Johnson, they lowered them mound. There's a

1198
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff they do. As far as I don't

1199
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: necessarily like if I had to do it from scratch,

1200
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would write it up that

1201
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: way for me personally, Like the pitch clock is quick,

1202
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: but it's good for baseball. Like as a starting pitcher,

1203
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm pitching once every six days. The games I'm not pitching,

1204
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: it's awesome because the games aren't four hours fast, right,

1205
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: so it's a two and a half hour game. I

1206
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: like it. Then I like the rhythm of it more.

1207
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: I think when I'm at my best, I'm not taking

1208
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: too much time in between pitches, so it forces me

1209
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: to get into that like jumper routine where you're just

1210
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: getting it and shooting it and you're not thinking about

1211
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: what's going on. So I like that aspect of it,

1212
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: the automated zone. We'll see the spring. I'm not sure.

1213
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: I heard they're shrinking the zone and like kind of

1214
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: lowering it, and like, I'm a high ball guy, so

1215
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna be great for me, but I

1216
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: don't know. I'll adapt.

1217
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 3: I'll be fine.

1218
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: So all those changes, I think they're frustrating because you

1219
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: people who have like that routine and you do all

1220
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: this stuff and you prepare to master that one year,

1221
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: it's completely different. It's frustrating. But like as someone looking outside,

1222
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: like as a fan, you're catering to the people that

1223
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: are like allowing you to play the game. So I

1224
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: get it, and I think the real changes have been

1225
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: really positive. Once every six days, that's a lot of

1226
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: off time during the season. Golf, Who what do you do?

1227
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: Video games? What do you like to do in your

1228
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: off time? I used to play video games, but I

1229
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: obsessed so hard on them. I had Carpal Tunnel in

1230
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: high school. So I'm ball so hard. I had to quit.

1231
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't play video games. RuneScape the nerdiest

1232
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: game you've ever heard of in your life. And people know,

1233
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: they know it's like a computer game and dylad like

1234
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: I was in there. It was so I would I

1235
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: was on that all the time, and then later I

1236
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: would try to play some call of duty and like

1237
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: I'd feel my hand and I'm like, I'm not doing

1238
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: this anymore. So I haven't played in like years. I

1239
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: don't go. I want to get into golfing, but I

1240
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: just find it to be like so boring.

1241
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: I can't I can't do once you get the bus,

1242
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: are you trying to find them? That state? That state

1243
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: of meditation?

1244
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: I think you got so similar to pitching, and like

1245
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm already like navigating that is like a thing in itself.

1246
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: When I go golf, I'm like, this is the same

1247
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: fucking thing. I don't want to do this, yeah, Like

1248
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: because I get I'd get too obsessed with it and

1249
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: like try to master it and like think about it

1250
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: all the time, and like I am already doing that

1251
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: one thing. So when I'm done with baseball, I think

1252
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: I'll probably try to get into it. But I'm a

1253
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: big u. The most of my time is like podcasts

1254
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: and like books not I'm not good at, Like I

1255
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: suck and watch a movie show like I'll go I'll

1256
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: go shows and movies a lot. I just go in

1257
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: waves to see the podcast or shows and movies and

1258
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: then like Audible and stuff like that.

1259
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Is it true? We was looking up some stuff earlier.

1260
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: Is there a ODB tattoo on your foot?

1261
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: Is this?

1262
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: Is this there? I lived in New York and the

1263
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: off season, and I like Wu Tang in high school

1264
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: with all my skate friends, like as all we loved

1265
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: Wu Tang and like bone Thugs and like it wasn't

1266
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: even California rap, but like we just all were it

1267
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: was amazing and like Andre Nicotina was California but like

1268
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Wrapping all my friends listen.

1269
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: To is a close friend of mine and my wife

1270
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: and I literally just went. He had a premiere of

1271
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: his new film at the African American pan Festival and

1272
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: it's a spoon of chocolate.

1273
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: So we just saw him the other night. Just incredible dude.

1274
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: That's sick, incredible dude, just outside the box thinker, that's

1275
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: harshest to his own beat.

1276
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: But dope dude. Yeah, they that whole cruise, like especially

1277
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: when they came up and even watching stuff on him,

1278
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, it would have been crazy to be

1279
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: in that era. And like I just we love their music.

1280
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: How did you get connected? We wooked it because you're

1281
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: a little younger.

1282
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1283
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1284
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: I loved all like old school raps so much when

1285
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: I was younger, like Nas and Big L and all

1286
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: those dudes I was just obsessed with for some reason,

1287
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: and like New York rap for some reason, I loved

1288
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: it's more grimy and skateboarder exactly.

1289
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

1290
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: I just loved it. And I think it was too

1291
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: like skating with the older kids when you're younger, and

1292
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: like you hear it and you're like whoa, and it

1293
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: just becomes like nostalgic, and then you just keep on

1294
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: like rolling with it. And I still will throw it

1295
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 2: on and like mob deep and stuff. Even we're playing

1296
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: in New York and there it's like their home thing.

1297
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I love this. That's why I pitched.

1298
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: Anytime someone has a good walkout or something, I like,

1299
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're fucked. It's just anytime a good song

1300
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: comes on in between at bats, it's.

1301
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: Like who has the best walk off? Walk off?

1302
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't even it's man. I remember like a few

1303
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, but I don't even know who

1304
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: has like if it's like some old school rap I

1305
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: really like. I like led Zeppelin a lot too, like

1306
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: classic crockets in my walkout Now, I like it.

1307
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: I like it all.

1308
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: I like like future and like that too, any something

1309
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: like that, even like some modern stuff. I really like

1310
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: anything like heavy eight oh eight I love I'm especially

1311
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: before I pitch, and like it just feels different before

1312
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: I pitch.

1313
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: All Right, they're going for the three pet first time

1314
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 4: it would be done since the Yankees did it and

1315
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: at ninety eight to two thousand and run? Are you

1316
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: already thinking about that? What would that mean to you

1317
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: for you'all to go out there and get that three pet?

1318
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think, uh, it feels similar to what it

1319
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: did coming into Spring this last year. Like everyone's asking

1320
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: that question of like, are you guys really serious about

1321
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: like winning a second time? And I'm like, we're so focused.

1322
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: It's not like we want it once. It's take some

1323
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: time off type of mentality at all. It's same this year.

1324
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: Everyone's locked in. But yeah, that's like such a unique

1325
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: opportunity to be able to go three peat, Like you

1326
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: got to win two in order to do that, So

1327
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: nobody is like trying to not like really take full

1328
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: part of this experience in baseball.

1329
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: I think baseball is the hardest one has to be

1330
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: out of all all major sports. I think it's the

1331
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 4: toughest sport to go back to back.

1332
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: It's just so many different variables and different like a

1333
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: lot of different things, and so many different people. We have,

1334
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: like sixty two guys get called up last year, Like

1335
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: sixty two different.

1336
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: People played on our team. Like that's a lot of

1337
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: moving parts. So in just a season is so long. Yeah,

1338
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's what people don't think. I understand the

1339
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: fans maybe, but it takes a lot of luck. I mean,

1340
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: you can be a very good team, but it takes

1341
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot of luck to win championships. Like shit has

1342
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: to line up the way it's supposed to line up

1343
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: on the time, and so and so forth.

1344
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's you guys, I wouldna argue. I know.

1345
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean we still do seven get we still have

1346
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: the same length the playoff series like you guys. But again,

1347
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: your guys, a season is double rs. You know, you

1348
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: guys have double the amounted games we have.

1349
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: So the spotlighte of basketball is like more stressful though,

1350
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: or like the pressure they put on basketball players seems

1351
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: to be a lot like more unfair than like it's crazy.

1352
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: If you're like a good basketball player, there's just like yeah,

1353
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: but you're not the best. It's just like this constant

1354
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: it's crazy, and it's five dudes out there, so it's like, yeah,

1355
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: it's less guys, is it two like people? I always

1356
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: would hear baseball players sometimes be like, well, baseball is

1357
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: so different, Like it's not like football where it's such

1358
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: a mental game, where like football you don't really have

1359
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: bad games, or basketball you don't really have bad games.

1360
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I think like it's mentally

1361
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: basketball like free throws. And do you guys, when you

1362
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: get fucked up as a BASKETBA player, do you become

1363
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: conscious of what you're doing like a baseball player.

1364
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean obviously everything. Everyone has their quirks on

1365
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: trying to fix and overdoing it and underdoing it. But

1366
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: the game is so fast you can't let your mind go.

1367
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: It's always the next play, the next shot, the next game.

1368
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: Because we're we're up and down like this. You know

1369
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: we can play for us. It's you know, you guys

1370
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: will play the game sets, but we'll play it. We'll

1371
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: be in different three different We can play three games

1372
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: in four cities and four.

1373
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: Nights, you know what I mean. But you can play

1374
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: four games in a week and be in three different.

1375
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Cities, you know what I mean. So there's not a

1376
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: ton of time to ling or doubt. You'll see guys

1377
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: get in the gym after a game sometimes if they struggled,

1378
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: or go to the gym early the next morning.

1379
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: But there's not enough time because we're playing so much

1380
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: to hold on to anything. Have you? Is there ever

1381
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: a time though, if like you're in the middle of

1382
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: a game and someone throws you ball to shoot a

1383
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: three where you're like I got a like you got

1384
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: your or you're so queck.

1385
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: I think it's similar to you like, the less thinking

1386
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: the better, Like if I'm thinking about this, oh shit,

1387
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: here it comes just coming like you gotta like you

1388
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: you naturally just going out a pilot wherebe you're you know,

1389
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: And I remember Kobe saying I'd rather you, you know,

1390
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather go you know, two for thirty than one

1391
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: for five.

1392
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you to keep shooting that thing.

1393
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: So it's just like, you know, kind of having that

1394
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: next play mentality and the next shot is the most

1395
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: important shot. It only takes one shot to get hot, damn.

1396
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1397
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of a faster paced you got

1398
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: to get that shit in and out of your head quickly.

1399
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because I have seventeen year old twins

1400
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: to play basketball, and it's it's teaching them to understand

1401
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: the next moment, the next play, and especially in the

1402
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: social media era where there's so much negative energy towards them.

1403
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm just next play, next game, next situation. It's always

1404
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: the next, you know what I mean. And then if

1405
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: you put the work in, there's no need to be

1406
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: nervous because you've prepared as much as you can from film, training,

1407
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: working out to be in this situation. So there's no

1408
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: need to be nervous because you've done everything you can.

1409
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: I just got to go out and let it happen.

1410
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: Can you get the yips in basketball?

1411
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1412
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: I think so.

1413
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: Double pump let Charles Barkley golf, It's all I think.

1414
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: It's it's I think it's common amongst all sports, you

1415
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And just how you know, as

1416
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: a pitcher, how do you deal with it? As a

1417
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: as a score?

1418
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: How do you deal with it? Or a defender. How

1419
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: do you deal with that and how fast can you

1420
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: get it out of your mind?

1421
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1422
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: This has been dope, man, I've learned a lot and

1423
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Obviously a Dodger guy, I'm a fan

1424
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: of that, but a quick hitters. First thing to come

1425
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: to mind. Let us know, favorite ballpark.

1426
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: Flar like Yankee Stable l A obviously like obvious answer,

1427
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: but probably historical school. Yeah, they feel different. It's least favorite,

1428
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: I think, just as I suck some Now. I can't

1429
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: say Pittsburgh cause that say like visually for me when

1430
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: I think of it, it's like good rough time some people.

1431
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: Tampa actually.

1432
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: He was there.

1433
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 2: It's a pretty shitty stadium if I'm being completely honest,

1434
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: it's not that great. But pitching there the mound and

1435
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: like the inside because the it's the controlled environment. And

1436
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: anytime your sea level with a dome, your your your

1437
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: backsman's way better, like your spin rate is better. Really,

1438
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, se sea level like density and ship it's

1439
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: like so it's always the same and it's always it's

1440
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: a dome, it's air conditioned. Something about like I'm always

1441
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: getting like crazy heaters.

1442
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: So random question. Playing in Colorado does the altitude affect

1443
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: your ball spin and.

1444
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: Your go So say, I don't know if you know

1445
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: the metrics, but if you have a normal eighteen inch heater,

1446
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: like it's like the magnus force of the ball spinning,

1447
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: it keeps it in the air longer. It's like minus three.

1448
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: And anything that's like spinning quickly it's minus three is heat,

1449
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: more break and less.

1450
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: So you're going a heater.

1451
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: It's not like writing. It's going like it becomes like

1452
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: an average heater. And then if you're I think, what

1453
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: do you what do you throw?

1454
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: Normally?

1455
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: What's good in Colorado is like you throw sinker because

1456
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: it's like a gravity type of.

1457
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: Thing on turball, no curveball.

1458
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: The Dogs don't even the Dodgers don't like guys, if

1459
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: you're not pitching in Colorado, they say stay home. We

1460
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: don't even want you to go and like be in

1461
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: the altitude and like they're just they're trying to get

1462
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: every advantage they had.

1463
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: You hit a triple, you got to come in and

1464
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: get like a whole lot of Normally it takes like

1465
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: a whole quarter when we play the Nuggets, like the

1466
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: second quarters, when normally it's like the first five minutes

1467
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: in the first Cordial'll catch it when it's the second quarter.

1468
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: It's like motherfuckers, you know, smoke a cigarettes all night

1469
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: it that's great, that's interesting. Smartest batter you faced. I'd

1470
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: have to sit and talk to someone to know. But

1471
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: I think what always blew my mind was like Miguel Cabrera.

1472
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: He I remember when I was in Pittsburgh in sixteen.

1473
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I faced him and I threw him like a heater

1474
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: that I cut on accident, which is like a pretty rare.

1475
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: It's like a cut ride heater, which is like pretty rare.

1476
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: Like Ken Lee throws one. I thrown every now and again,

1477
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: but I really got on the side to one and

1478
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: it was good, and he like kind of looked at

1479
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: me as my rookie, and he was like he'll he'll

1480
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: like he'll gas you up, so you throw it again.

1481
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: It's a home I've seen him due to other dudes

1482
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: where he'll like like almost know it's coming and look

1483
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: like an idiot on purpose and then be like wow.

1484
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: Man, surpressive just said that, just said that. So take

1485
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: these fake swings. So I'll throw that ship again and

1486
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: put in the stad.

1487
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 2: Just crush it like it's nuts. It's so it's yeah,

1488
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's a whole different I'd see him

1489
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: if I'm thinking quick.

1490
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: I feel like I know your answer here. But funniest

1491
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: teammates different.

1492
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vet to Ben was hilarious. There's a few different

1493
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: dudes that come to mind. Bench clearing brawl. You get

1494
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: three guys, so you taking with you Bruce Dark grad

1495
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: that was quick. Oh he's a big boy dude and

1496
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: he's got that crazy in him too, like he would

1497
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: be really good. He's huge too. Judge, can I pick

1498
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: other people? Judge because six nine Judge and then uh,

1499
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: who else is a ginormous human? Maybe?

1500
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: Like, uh, I'm taking a road as Chapman Chapman for sure.

1501
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: That's probably my number one nobody Judge Chapman and uh

1502
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: and Gradoll for sure.

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Speaker 3: Favorite baseball movie the.

1504
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Speaker 2: First one that comes to my probably saying a lot

1505
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Speaker 2: because I want that.

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Clubhouse playlist. I mean, you gave us what you vibe to.

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Speaker 1: What's what's on your playlist before games?

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01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a lot of like future young thug like

1509
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: heavy eight O eight, like just I want to feel

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: just like relaxed and like act like I'm fucking super cool.

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Speaker 2: And I'm all, I'm like, you know what, I'm chill

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Speaker 2: and it like really helps me. I get like an

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: endorphin rush. I'm sweating, and i just feel great. But

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Speaker 2: we're like a hoodie or something. You just feel good.

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Speaker 2: And then if I'm trying to go like the other way,

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Speaker 2: I'll go, uh like Tame and Paula led Zeppelin, or

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01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: like if I'm on like a flight or something, I'll

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: do like psychedelic rock music type stuff like that, like

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01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: weird indie kicking with any cruise. Yeah, whatever you got,

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01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: just music's good music, It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Just throw some mushroom gummies in and we're exactly there.

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Speaker 1: You go, Tyler, Yeah, Tally, we appreciate you man. Best

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Speaker 1: of luck this year on getting and having a successful season,

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Speaker 1: the healthy season and bringing another championship back to l A.

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Speaker 2: Thank you having me, guys. Yeah,