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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we be on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live. Thanks for making this part

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Speaker 2: of your afternoon, and there is plenty of foot in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to.

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Speaker 2: All of the voting, tabling, non voting and turned down

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Speaker 2: proposals that we're all in of NFL ownership at the

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Speaker 2: league meetings in West Palm Beach today. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: those in short order. We will begin, though, today with

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Speaker 2: a Bill's note. This crossed after we were off the

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Speaker 2: air late yesterday afternoon, reports that the Bills have signed

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Speaker 2: a free agent punter, Brad Robbins, punted for the Bengals

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty three season. He was injured last year,

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Speaker 2: put on IR, and then released by Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't been employed since.

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Speaker 2: We I think Steve anticipated because Brandon being indicated as

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Speaker 2: much that the Bills punter Jake Kamarta, who only signed

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Speaker 2: late last year, would have some competition in training camp,

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Speaker 2: and it now appears that Robbins will be that competition.

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Speaker 2: I found this interesting. I had read that there are

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Speaker 2: eight punters in the league that were draft choices only

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Speaker 2: eight out of.

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Speaker 1: The thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Camarta and Dobbins are two of them.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the guys on our Yeah, well there you go.

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Speaker 3: I I got here yesterday and I went up. I

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Speaker 3: was gonna go up to the and get some coffee.

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Speaker 3: I was walking through and the sure enough they got

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Speaker 3: the guy out there punting, and uh, I mean I

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Speaker 3: didn't have that many people at my birthday party. I

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Speaker 3: mean the whole staff was out there watching the guy.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was out there, and you know, after he's come

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Speaker 3: back through and he's I just walked through. I didn't

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Speaker 3: sit there and watch him, but walk through coming back,

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Speaker 3: and it's all over with by the time I get

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Speaker 3: back down there and there, you know, there's a group

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Speaker 3: chat going on, a live group chat going on the

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Speaker 3: ones we remember, right, And I didn't even In fact,

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Speaker 3: when I walked, I didn't even know who the guy was.

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Speaker 3: I didn't some guy. So uh then they find then

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Speaker 3: I find out, Yeah, sure enough.

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Speaker 2: Presto Chanino, Yeah, I do find find it interesting that

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Speaker 2: the two candidates were both former draft picks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you got to have some shops in college. If a

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Speaker 2: team is going to take the time to use it

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Speaker 2: draft pick on you even if it's day three, you know,

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Speaker 2: round six, whatever, right, I just think this is shaping

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Speaker 2: up to be a very good punter competition.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, they both got a

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Speaker 3: big leg if they got drafted, because that's what gets

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Speaker 3: these guys drafted. Then they learn how to do the

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Speaker 3: ausie punt and the stop it and the backspin and

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Speaker 3: the holding for kickers and all of that stuff. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: which is one of the prerequids these days. If you're

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Speaker 3: a punter and you don't know how to hold it,

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Speaker 3: just go home. I mean, seriously, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Nobody told what are you watching? Don't you see this

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Speaker 3: going on? So all that goes in the mix. It's

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Speaker 3: you're right, that is interesting. That's the most interesting part

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Speaker 3: right now, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: You don't know who's getting that gig.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the most interesting training camp story of the

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Speaker 3: year just so far. We're in the early going.

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Speaker 1: It'll it'll shift and change.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it might change a little bit, but right now,

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Speaker 3: as of April Fool's Day, the punter competition is the

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Speaker 3: most intriguing story of Buffalo Bill's training camp.

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Speaker 1: Let's go palpable tension let's start it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll shift right from that to around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: which is brought to you by KILLID a Healthy official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and talk about the

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Speaker 2: tush push will continue. That's because the league has tabled

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Speaker 2: a vote on the play. Apparently there are some concerned

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Speaker 2: with how the language is written in the proposals, specifically

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Speaker 2: where it reads that a player may not immediately at

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Speaker 2: From what's being reported, the NFL owners do not like

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Speaker 2: the language of immediately at the snap because the Bills,

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Speaker 2: for one, are a team that do not push Josh

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Speaker 3: It's interesting when you see what they do when they

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Speaker 3: come up with these and I'm using finger quotes rule changes.

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Speaker 3: They have the line through, what they're taking out and

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Speaker 3: instances where now the new replay thing is going to

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Speaker 3: say any any line instead of this line, that line,

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Speaker 3: they can assist with.

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Speaker 2: There is a good chance that the proposal, perhaps with

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Speaker 2: new language, is going to be discussed again and at

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Speaker 2: the league meetings in May after the draft.

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Speaker 3: The problem is if they if they change the language

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Speaker 3: and alter it, may it may not really outlaw the play.

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Speaker 3: No you know what I mean. Somebody will say, well,

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Speaker 1: But I think that's that's the intent here.

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Speaker 2: Get the language to a certain point where there aren't

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Speaker 2: any workarounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: They don't want teams trying to work around the language.

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Speaker 2: And said, well, you didn't get pushed after the snap

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Speaker 2: immediately he got pushed two seconds later, why can't we

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Speaker 2: run the play? So I think they're saying, look, if

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Speaker 1: Make sure we do it in a.

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Speaker 2: Very broadly described, all encompassing way.

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Speaker 3: But you also have to leave room for the quarterback

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Speaker 1: That too.

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Speaker 3: So one of the bit and I've said this a ton,

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Speaker 3: And they lay out this scenario and there, because every

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Speaker 3: it's also necessary. The way they by the way the

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Speaker 3: Competition Committee they tabled this, yes, and the exactly what

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Speaker 3: I told him to do. It's too early, it's too quick.

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Speaker 3: You got to just get some data, don't react.

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Speaker 1: I still don't believe it's got twenty four votes.

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Speaker 3: To get rid of it. I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 3: you're talking about one team that really fifteen. But now

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Speaker 3: you're talking about one team that really does it well.

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Speaker 2: The Bills and the Eagles have done it the most

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Speaker 3: In fact, they've done it more than the rest of

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and the Bills, you know you can. You

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Speaker 3: do it every play. The guy's a monster. I get it.

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Speaker 3: Teams will come up with something. There's some smart guys

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Speaker 2: The league did approve moving the touch back for a

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Speaker 2: thirty five now instead of the thirty With this touchback

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Speaker 2: spot change, the NFL has been projecting an increase in

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Speaker 2: the return rate from what was thirty three percent last

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Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be interesting and this will be

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Speaker 2: our topic of discussion today. We're going to discuss this

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Speaker 2: at length, So save your juiciest.

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Speaker 1: Opinion, Steve for that. But you know, it's I.

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Speaker 2: Think it was probably the most guaranteed by law rule

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that the changing it to the thirty to me,

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Speaker 3: they did exactly what they didn't never they never do.

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Speaker 3: They knee jerked. Yeah, they never do that, and they

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Speaker 2: We should mention that when the dynamic kickoff went in

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Speaker 2: last year, like many major rule changes, it was it

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Speaker 1: Year rule change.

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Speaker 2: The following year, if things go well, it has to

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Speaker 2: be ratified as a permanent rule change.

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Speaker 1: That did happen today.

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Speaker 2: So the dynamic kickoff is here to stay. That is

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Speaker 2: the new way that kickoffs will be for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 3: So this, yeah, we're not gonna get into it now.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna let's get through the news and notes.

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Speaker 3: But this kickoff rule is gonna have a lot. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will be very shortly. The Lion's proposal

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Speaker 2: to eliminate automatic first downs on defensive holding in illegal

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Speaker 2: automatic first down for defensive holding or illegal contact will continue.

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Speaker 1: I think we.

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Speaker 2: Thought that one was dead on arrival, especially after hearing

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Speaker 1: So there's that, and once again, a.

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Speaker 2: Rule change that benefits the defense fails miserably. The replay

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Speaker 2: official was given expanded perview to buzz down to the

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Speaker 2: on field officials let them know an egregious error has

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Speaker 2: been made when calling a personal foul for a hit

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Speaker 2: or defenseless player, a face mask penalty, a horse collar tackle,

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Speaker 2: tripping or running into the kicker. Those who were added,

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Speaker 2: along with the others that a replay assistant can already

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Speaker 2: I will say Steve that we witnessed this a couple

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Speaker 2: grabbed him on his name plate and tackled him. There's

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Speaker 1: So everybody is clear.

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Speaker 2: The replay assistant at no point in time can buzz

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Speaker 3: It's that simple. That's a that's a slippery slope that

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Speaker 2: The Lions by Law proposal to recede. Their by law

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Speaker 2: I think a language change Mike Garner more support when

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Speaker 2: They're playing a home game against an eleven and five team, Like, what, right,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I get it, right, I understand it, and it

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Speaker 3: problem I have with it is strength the schedule. You

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Speaker 2: Well to that point, you could also argue that there

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Speaker 3: Year to your basis, yeah, and the rent changes.

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Speaker 2: Like the AFC North, the winner of that division might

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Speaker 1: And they go thirteen and four. Well, it's like, well, no.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, right, So or a wildcard team in that

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Speaker 1: That's where I have an issue.

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Speaker 2: But if you're seven and nine, yeah, are you really

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Speaker 3: I get a horrible division. And here's the Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the issue or the seventh. I think

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Speaker 2: if they reword that, change the language and say, if

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Speaker 2: right with a superior record, you will be seated seventh.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming, We'll see on the road.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I mean yeah, because I when he gets

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because the Falcons were out there back then.

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Speaker 3: Ask the Patriots what it's like to play in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I think all three franchises should take a

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Speaker 2: Finally, NFL owners have passed a rule that both teams

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Speaker 2: regular season overtime will only be ten minutes, playoff overtime

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Speaker 1: And they only change it for overtime.

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Speaker 2: with one another elsewhere around the league. Falcons head coach

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris does not expect Kirk Cousins to be at

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Speaker 2: He does, however, expect Cousins to return to the team

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Speaker 2: All conversations between him and the team, Cousins and the

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Speaker 3: He Cousins in Atlanta is seems like an enormous trade target,

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Speaker 2: Hold a clip the most expensive backup quarterback you have

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Speaker 2: So here in Atlanta, come watch him hold a clip bar.

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Speaker 3: Nobody believes him and rightfully so. I think Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: And how do you work the money and the cap

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Speaker 2: of Fame as craft in Parcels officially bury the hatchet

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Speaker 1: He accepted, So a real Kumbaya moment.

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Speaker 2: Between the Patriots owner and their former head coach who

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Speaker 3: And I think Robert Craft, rightfully so is acknowledging it.

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Speaker 3: you know, would you accept it?

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Speaker 3: That's kind of nice. Yeah, that's a nice insight into

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Speaker 2: We have a topic of discussion for you today that

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Speaker 2: kickoff touchback move to the thirty five yard line changing

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Speaker 2: game strategy, Steve. We already saw some teams, in anticipation

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Speaker 3: That's where there you really see the nuts and bolts

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Speaker 3: And after a year, you're gonna know what type of

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Speaker 3: that stuff gets thrown into it, and it starts with

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Speaker 3: the guys that strap it up. I think it's fascinating

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Speaker 3: because you've got to have guys that are on it

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Speaker 3: or you're gonna be you know, you're gonna be starting

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Speaker 3: your drives at the fifteen yard line. And also, how

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Speaker 3: difficult is it to give a to get a kick

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Speaker 3: down there that's not just up in the air and

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Speaker 3: coming down. You know, the landing area is hard to hit.

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Speaker 3: Having it carry all the way to the twenty, between

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Speaker 3: the twenty and the goal line, you gotta get it airborne.

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Speaker 3: You gotta get it airborne. And that really takes away

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Speaker 3: an enormous chaotic strategy that the kicking team would use

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Speaker 3: on a regular basis. So it's I think it's fascinating,

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Speaker 3: and it's not just a and like I said, it's

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Speaker 3: not just about let's let's devise this return scheme and

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Speaker 3: these guys are gonna cross and they're gonna double team

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna it's none of that. You gonna have

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Speaker 3: a You gotta have a guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta do more than one.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta find Devin Hester someplace or Deon

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Speaker 3: Sanders someplace right, and you gotta have guys in front

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Speaker 3: of him that are built for it and committed to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned in Around the NFL, the league is

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Speaker 2: expecting the return rate to go from thirty three percent

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four to between sixty and seventy percent

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Speaker 2: this fall with this new touchback line, because it was

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Speaker 2: put in for a reason.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to make a.

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Speaker 2: Touchback too punitive for the defense that was gonna have

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Speaker 2: to come out on the field and defend a sixty

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Speaker 2: five yard field before the offense is taken a snap,

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Speaker 2: so they believe that's gonna prompt teams to put the

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Speaker 2: ball in play. You get more returns, So now your

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Speaker 2: coverage unit better be buttoned up. That's number one. But

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Speaker 2: but this has a cascading domino effect here, Steve, because

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Speaker 2: now you're you're talking a lot more about field position.

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Speaker 2: Could be easier scoring if you got an offense like

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Speaker 2: the Bills do and you're starting on your thirty five

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Speaker 2: thanks for the field goal with a kicker like.

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Speaker 3: Bass, and the next time you get the ball, even

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Speaker 3: if you stop him, the next time you get the balls,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be inside your fifteen. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's where it's come. That's why it is right.

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Speaker 2: So there's there's point. There's field position discussions that are

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Speaker 2: going to ensue. Now scoring is going to be impacted,

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Speaker 2: unquestionably if people decide to kick it into the end

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Speaker 2: zone and game management on top of that. You know,

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Speaker 2: so I think there are a lot of dominoes that

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Speaker 2: are going to fall here. And people are like, ah,

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Speaker 2: what it's five yards difference? Mean, you know, you got

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Speaker 2: to stop the guy.

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Speaker 3: Stop the guy.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference if he's starting at the thirty or

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Speaker 1: the thirty five.

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Speaker 2: The analytics people will tell you a drive start that

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Speaker 2: starts at the twenty as opposed to the thirty or

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Speaker 2: the thirty five, the scoring likelihood goes up significantly.

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Speaker 3: You can. It follows the percentages. So you got to

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Speaker 3: think the thirty five twenty five yards, you're hitting a

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty eight yarder if you get twenty five

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Speaker 3: two first two and a half first downs. Yeah, so if.

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Speaker 2: You get two first twenty five yard drive, think about that.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five yard drive and you're gonna be kicking a

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Speaker 3: field goal of fifty nine yard. And if you get

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Speaker 3: like two first downs and you get five extra yards

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Speaker 3: per first down, you're kicking a forty eight yarder. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna that's an automatic points. So just a couple of

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Speaker 3: first downs. So yeah, it's all the percentages that and

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Speaker 3: analytics will tell you. You know that it's it's gonna make

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Speaker 3: a difference, and it's going to affect decision making big time,

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Speaker 3: I think, and and and even more so roster management.

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Speaker 3: Like we said, they gotta they gotta get some guys

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Speaker 3: some This is not a place to hide somebody, now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is that is what we pose to

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Speaker 2: you today. How do you see the kickoff, touchback, move

516
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Speaker 2: to the thirty five yard line changing game strategy. Let

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Speaker 2: us know your theories on this as Steve and I

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Speaker 2: will continue to share hours eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eighty eight eight five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty.

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Speaker 1: The numbers to join us.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have time to give us a phone call,

523
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Speaker 2: you can always hit us up on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: at one Bills Live. Because I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: teams are gonna come to the conclusion when you're especially

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Speaker 2: when you're playing a team like the Bills or the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: maybe the Chiefs. Hey, I'm not giving that offense a

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Speaker 2: drive start at the thirty five yard line. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go skidding it into the landing zone. Have them scoop

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Speaker 2: it up and see what they can do with that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: And even that's just even that's a a risk because

533
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Speaker 3: if you hit it too good, if you hit it

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Speaker 3: wrong and at one hops to the guy, he gets

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Speaker 3: it shallow. I mean he's gonna get at the tent. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, they can't run and they can run as

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Speaker 3: soon as the ball hits the ground, so you can

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Speaker 3: get it on the ground quick. But if he one hops,

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Speaker 3: it ain't gonna do you any good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think ideally what you'll probably see is kickers. And

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Speaker 2: we saw some of this last year, not to the

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Speaker 2: same degree that I think we'll see it this year, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but we saw kickers. Even Tyler Bass drive this a

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Speaker 2: few times. Line drive the ball into the landing zone

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Speaker 2: and have it skid through the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Because if a ball hits the landing zone, first reaches

548
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Speaker 2: the end zone, goes out of bounds or is down

549
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Speaker 2: in there, the receiving team gets it at the twenty

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Speaker 2: yard line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's a fifteen yard difference.

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Speaker 2: That is a big deal if you have a kicker

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Speaker 2: skilled enough to pull that off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a it really demands something because what

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Speaker 3: happens if the ball bounces sideways and goes out of

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Speaker 3: bounce and then's to the forty Yeah, so he's it's

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Speaker 3: a you know, there's a lot in this oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: And that's why a lot of fuel position, and that's

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Speaker 3: that's what it's all about. It is fuel position, and

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Speaker 3: that's that's really the crux of the entire exercise.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we want to talk about it with you.

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Speaker 2: How do you see the kickoff touchback move to the

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Speaker 2: thirty five yard line changing game strategy this fall? Eight

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Speaker 2: oh three zero five point fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: point fifty two, five point fifty the numbers to get

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Speaker 2: on board. Got open lines for you or hit us

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Speaker 2: up on the tweet sheet as well. At One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a flash.

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Speaker 5: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill Live on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are discussing

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Speaker 2: what is likely to be the rule change that could

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Speaker 2: change the game the most in twenty twenty five, and

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Speaker 2: that is the rule that will now have kickoff touchbacks

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Speaker 2: moved out to the thirty five yard line if the

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Speaker 2: ball reaches the end zone on a fly, is downed,

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00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: or is kicked out of the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it changing game strategy.

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Speaker 1: This coming season?

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero five point fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 2: And we go to the phones now and we lead

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Speaker 2: off today with Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us, Ryan.

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Speaker 6: Kuse, Steve, I want to talk about the whole christ

586
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Speaker 6: Bush band that everyone's talking about. There's no data, just

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Speaker 6: support this players hippie. I don't know the August govern

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Speaker 6: mcgiln talking about it. Secondly, well why is he n

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Speaker 6: is the NFL and there is a player safety committee

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Speaker 6: is so concerned about player safety? Why you is still

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Speaker 6: adding more games to it. There's more data to suppose

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Speaker 6: that the more games you add, the more risk the

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Speaker 6: players are going to be when pass, when you're retired.

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Speaker 6: But there's no data about touch push, So why have

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Speaker 6: you so still are they concerned about players shafety? Is

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Speaker 6: it is about inconvenience because they're a team that has

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Speaker 6: advantage and that's all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: And he feels like the league's talking out of both

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Speaker 2: sides of their mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well if they if you really want to take

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Speaker 3: player safety to the end of it, that the league

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Speaker 3: should fold up because it's a dangerous game to play.

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Speaker 3: The games are what you sign up for, and when

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Speaker 3: the something happens in the game that because of the

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Speaker 3: way it's structured, the strategies involved, like the way kickoffs

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Speaker 3: were for decades where they had four guys coming up

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Speaker 3: and they used to call it a wedge and they

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Speaker 3: would run forward shoulder to shoulder. So you got three

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Speaker 3: four three hundred pound guys coming shoulder to shoulder, and

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Speaker 3: you got other guys banging into them with and nobody's

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Speaker 3: trying to avoid the contact. So it was a recipe

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Speaker 3: for injury. That kind of stuff. You can see the

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Speaker 3: reasons why players safety is important and when stuff like

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Speaker 3: this comes up, when a strategy comes up that puts

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Speaker 3: players in a position where it's gonna be a very

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Speaker 3: intense physical activity and an intense physical contact and collision, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they got to take a hard look at it. Certainly,

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Speaker 3: there's no data available, and I agree with you. You're

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Speaker 3: got you got two teams that run it, the Bills

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Speaker 3: and Philly. Nobody else runs it. That runs the play.

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Speaker 3: It's a quarterback sneak, yeah, okay a little bit, but

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Speaker 3: nobody runs it like Philly and Buffalo, so it's a

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Speaker 3: knee journal reaction.

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Speaker 2: There's one other team that uses a tight end to

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Speaker 2: run it, and it's not gonna I'm not gonna remember

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Speaker 2: which team uses a tight end to do that, but

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Speaker 2: I remember there was a tight end in the league

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Speaker 2: last year that was assigned.

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Speaker 3: This was it, Baltimore was it Andrews? Might have might

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Speaker 3: have been, might have been.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember either.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing too, the games and adding more games,

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Speaker 3: I don't equate, I get it. I don't equate the

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Speaker 3: game adding the games with unsafe player practices. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the league trumpets the fact that even the Thursday night

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Speaker 3: games don't show the propensity for added injury because of

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Speaker 3: the short week. Yeah, they seem they are the same

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Speaker 3: statistical risk.

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Speaker 1: There is statistical evidence for that.

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Speaker 3: There is statistical evidence that it's no more dangerous to

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Speaker 3: play on a Thursday than it is on a Sunday

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Speaker 3: and in a short week.

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Speaker 2: And I would anticipate that if you want a true

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Speaker 2: devil's advocate, what you're going to hear is they're not

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Speaker 2: adding a game. They're taking away a preseason game and

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Speaker 2: replacing it with a regular season game. The total will

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Speaker 2: still be twenty. I think you're gonna hear that argument

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Speaker 2: a lot too. And look, I'll be the first to

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Speaker 2: agree that a preseason game is not the same thing

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Speaker 2: as a regular season game, not to mention the fact

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Speaker 2: that you're probably not playing a lot of the guys

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Speaker 2: who will be playing in a regular season game in

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Speaker 2: a preseason game. But I would imagine the league would

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Speaker 2: offer that as a defense, we're not playing more games,

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Speaker 2: they're just different in nature. This is a regular season game.

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Speaker 2: We got eighteen of those now, and we only have

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Speaker 2: two preseason games. So the wear and tear and segligible.

661
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Speaker 3: They'll argue that, And the league could also come out

662
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: and say, well, what about what about Week eighteen? Josh

663
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: Allen didn't even he didn't take it. He took one snap. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 3: I mean, they'll be plenty of examples, and they'll be Yeah,

665
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: and there'll be examples of that as well. So the

666
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: signing up for more regular season games, Yes, even if

667
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: I agreed with which I don't, that it's more dangerous

668
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: only because it's one more game, it's the same statistical

669
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: within that game as any other game. I still say

670
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: that that's what you sign up for, and that's what

671
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: they get compensated for, and that's why the money is

672
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: gonna come in. If it's six percent more revenue, or

673
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: what is it? It might be? What is it it's

674
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: like eight percent more revenue, eight percent more games. What's

675
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: an eighteenth one of the if you go from seventeen

676
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: to eighteen math. Now, yeah, I'm not gonna do it,

677
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: but that percentage of going from seventeen games to eighteen games,

678
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: it's an up in like what seven or eight ten percent?

679
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: Not even ten percent?

680
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Is five and a half percent?

681
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: All right, it's five and a half percent. The money

682
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: that comes in is five and a half percent more.

683
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: You're gonna get five and a half percent more on

684
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: the cap.

685
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: All of that.

686
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: Stuff goes into it, so the players will be compensated

687
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah, this tush push thing doesn't change anything

688
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: for anybody. There's a difference if you're gonna and you

689
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: may not like the cynicism of it, but if you

690
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: pay for it, you can get just about anything you want.

691
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: And that's what the extra game is going to do

692
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: for the league. It'll give the ability to pay the

693
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: players a little extra for the extra game, for the

694
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: extra regular season, and it's more for everybody. So it's

695
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: a little bit easier to get your mind around. Certainly,

696
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: it's a cynical way to do it. It doesn't alleviate any

697
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: of the practicality of the whether the plus or minus

698
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: of the injury percentages, but you're paying them for it.

699
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: How do you see the kickoff touchback move to the

700
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: thirty five yard line, changing game strategy?

701
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Back to the phones into Judy and Buffalo.

702
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 5: What's up, Judy?

703
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 8: As critical as I have been the Tyler bess, I

704
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 8: think the Bills have a real advantage here because he

705
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 8: can kick out of the end zone into the end

706
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 8: zone of the two yard line, and then the Bill

707
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 8: really have a good team that goes down and is

708
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 8: able to smother the team from coming out from whatever

709
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 8: ball that they have. So I really think this place

710
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 8: the Bill's advantage. I love this situation. And I just

711
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 8: think that if the Bills didn't cold team starting from

712
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 8: twenty five twenty five yard line, it's better off we

713
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 8: will be.

714
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, And look Judy's talking about

715
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Speaker 2: Tyler Bass has a weapon on kickoffs. I think he's

716
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: a weapon for the offense if you get a drive

717
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: start at the thirty five because as you were saying earlier,

718
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: he had twenty five yard line. You know, you have

719
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: a drive of twenty five yards and you're stall out somehow,

720
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: all right, Tyler, you're up, you know, come out hit

721
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: a fifty seven yard or in September, no problem.

722
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: Right, he's a weapon there.

723
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: Right, I agree, And it's yeah, it's I think that's

724
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: where the rubber really meets the road. It's not it's

725
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: not in this strategy on game day. It's roster build.

726
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: You got to have some guys that can do that.

727
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: Now seventy they're talking about seventy seventy five percent of

728
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: the kicks being returned.

729
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: I think sixty to seventy percent of the kicks will

730
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: be returned, ye, up from thirty three percent last And.

731
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: Think about it. You get a game look back at

732
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: the Bills, you know, season last year, think about how

733
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: many plays that is. When you've got a game in

734
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: LA and it is forty two to forty four, you

735
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: get all those kickoffs and the opening kickoff of each half.

736
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: That's that's a lot of plays for that group.

737
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Speaker 2: And I think in turn, that puts a lot of

738
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: pressure on special teams coordinators, who, for all intents and

739
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: purposes last year with this new dynamic kickoff for lack

740
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: of a better term, punted on it and just said

741
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: kicker put it through the back of the end zone,

742
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: so we don't have to cover the kick now you do.

743
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's have.

744
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: Fun with that and not for nothing. But the Bills, oh,

745
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: by the way, also have a new special teams coordinator.

746
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: It's veteran coordinator Chris Taber, who was out of the

747
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: league last year but was charting everything across the league

748
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: last year, and Sean McDermott, when he was asked about

749
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: hiring Taber, said he was very taken with the research

750
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: that Taber had conducted while not employed in the NFL.

751
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: So I think he's going to have a lot of

752
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: ideas about what is the best practices in covering these kicks.

753
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: Now obviously based on what Tyler Bass can and cannot do, directionally, distance, hang,

754
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: all of that stuff.

755
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: It'll also come into play if you've got a kicker

756
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: who can do certain things that are kickers can't or

757
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: are not comfortable with, or can't do it consistently enough

758
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: to count on him in a game to say, hey,

759
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: land this on the twenty five or the fifteen and

760
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: bounce down there. That's you know, if a guy can

761
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: do it, you're crazy not to try it, is it,

762
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: or at least experiment with it in the in the preseason.

763
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this with you when we

764
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: come back because we're up against the clock right now.

765
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: I want to know, because I've seen this in practice

766
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: a generation ago here with this team under Bobby April,

767
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: is it realistic to pooch pop up a kickoff to

768
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: create enough hang time, land it in the landing zone,

769
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: and cover it and be all over the football by

770
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: the time the returner is fielding it. We'll talk about

771
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: that when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

772
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Speaker 2: by Colida Health.

773
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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, One Bill's.

774
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Live back here, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

775
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: want to know from you how you see the kickoff

776
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: touchback move to the thirty five yard line changing game

777
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: strategy this fall. I kind of foolishly asked Steve the

778
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: question about popping the kickoff up, but then I remembered,

779
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: and Steve reminded me that the guys covering the kickoff

780
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: can't move until the ball hits the ground or is

781
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: fielded by the returner, So that would ruin any closing

782
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: in on a pop up as the guys catching the ball.

783
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: That doesn't work, got it?

784
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: They thought of everything they took a fun out, Yeah

785
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: they did. But we want to know your thoughts on

786
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: how you think things might change with regard to game

787
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: management the kickoff play itself, because we're going to have

788
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: to cover those a lot more. Eight O three zero,

789
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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

790
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: fifty the numbers to get on board. We lead off

791
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Speaker 2: this segment with Steve and Tennessee what's up Steve, Chris

792
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: and Steve.

793
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. And you are a Hall

794
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 7: of famer Steve, and I hope they put you in

795
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 7: there before you turn ninety and you can't enjoy it. Listen,

796
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: you know what I'd like to see him doing? They

797
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 7: s kickoffs. Let's just everybody put on a Guardian camp,

798
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 7: go back to the old way, and let's go. I mean,

799
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 7: after watching the whole season of it, I give it

800
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 7: a chance, and I don't like it, and I don't

801
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 7: like anything or doing with a kickoff. It's I don't know.

802
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think.

803
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: The reason they felt a change had to be made, Steve,

804
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: if you recall it was the number of returns were

805
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: going way down. I know you want to see old

806
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: school rock'm soccer football and the kickoff return back then

807
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: was an exciting play. I don't deny it for a second.

808
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: The problem is nobody was returning it anymore. All you

809
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: got to do is go back to the last time

810
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: you had the old kickoff return. It was in the

811
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl between San Francisco and Kansas City, and they

812
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: had thirteen kickoffs in that game. None of them were returned,

813
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: partially because the kickers are so dang good that even

814
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: though they moved the kickoff line back to the thirty

815
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: about ten years ago, they're still putting it through the

816
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: back of the end zone.

817
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I get where you're saying. If they can

818
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: get the equipment to completely eradicate concussions, they may revert

819
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: to that.

820
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: But you're assuming that they're gonna be returning the ball

821
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: when they're like, look, you're kicking it into the end

822
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: zone annually.

823
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: I I'm with you. It was for me. I famously said,

824
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: you know, everybody in America should get an opportunity to

825
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: cover a kick in the old way. You know, go

826
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: down there and bang around people and you know, throw

827
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: yourself into the wheels of the chariot and come out unscathed.

828
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: The problem was not enough guys came out unscathed. They

829
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 3: were getting they're getting beat up pretty good. Yeah. Yeah,

830
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: it was a rough tongue. You were right. It was

831
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: rock and soccer football back then, and on kickoff and

832
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: for a soft as the game has been, you know,

833
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: finger quotes as soft as the game has become in

834
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: comparison to the old days. At that that play until

835
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: the time they changed it, it was rough. They finally

836
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: took the wedge out of play. That helped a little bit,

837
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: not much, and you know they had to go even

838
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: further with it. So this will put the play back

839
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: in the game. And I'll say this to their credit.

840
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: You said it. It's a fun play to watch back

841
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: in the day when those guys were banging around, were

842
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: flying around, and it was it was chaos, and it

843
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: was a lot of space and a lot of ground

844
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: was covered. You've got big athletes from fast athletes. You

845
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: got guys running as fast as they can to cover ground.

846
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: It was a dynamic play. I mean, it was really

847
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 3: cool when the when the ball was brought out from

848
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: the goal line or whatever it was, it was a spectacle.

849
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: They're trying to get that back a little bit. They

850
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: don't want to take that completely out of the game

851
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: and just run the quarterback out there with the offense

852
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: and start taking snaps.

853
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: And they want to do that while also not going

854
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: back to the high rate of concussions that were inferred

855
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: on that play. That was the play that produced the

856
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: most concussions in any game by forwardings too statistics, and

857
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: so they had to thread the needle there. They want

858
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: to still have kick returns in the game because it's

859
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: an exciting play, but not at top speed with two

860
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: players that have run forty yards directly at each other,

861
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: you know, to have a mash unit in the middle

862
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: of the field.

863
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: Right right, So I think you got to applaud them

864
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: for really making an effort to put the play and

865
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: tinker with it until they find something that's fun to

866
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: watch and exciting to watch and there's a there's a

867
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: chance for a great play on the return team or

868
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: a great play by the coverage.

869
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Team, while also mitigating the risk of injury.

870
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, while also making sure that all twenty two guys

871
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 3: walk off the field in one piece. It's a hard

872
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: need like, it's a hard needle to thread, and they're

873
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 3: they're working on it, and we'll see this year if

874
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: we get the ball in play a lot more. I'm

875
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: sure it'll be more fun for fans.

876
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Steven Syracuse next. What's up, Steve?

877
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: I just want to comment about the rule years ago

878
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 4: they used to have this to get around a tush

879
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: push rule no assisting the runner they had eight years ago.

880
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't allowed at all. You cannot assist the runner

881
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: at all. They don't. They don't put it under that

882
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: tush push boloni or anything like it. Then number two,

883
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: I want to ask about the running backs. How many

884
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: times you see running backs just put a stuff ironmount

885
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: a defender by the face mask, drowning him down to

886
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: get the gain yardage and there's no penalty on them.

887
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: They should be a penalty either way, and then they

888
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: never call that. Then one other question head was on

889
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: a punt return. Is there a rule that you they do?

890
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: Don't give them money room to catch the ball anymore.

891
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: They hit him right away. Here should be like a

892
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: two yard rule.

893
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: I believe no, there was a two yard rule at

894
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: a lower levels, but not in the NFL. They're a

895
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: halo and in Canada you've got to give them five yards.

896
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: But the field is much bigger. In Canada too, it's

897
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: much wider and it's one hundred and ten goal line

898
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 3: to goal line playing field with twenty yard end zones.

899
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an enormous field and they give them

900
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: five yards because it's a much more free wheeling game

901
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: in the Canadian game. But there's never been a halo

902
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: rule in the NFL to my knowledge. Maybe at the

903
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 3: lower levels in college football there was for a minute,

904
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: but that's long gone as well. Yeah, so that's and

905
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: for the stiff arm, they can call an offensive stiff

906
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: arm face mask penalty. They don't usually because usually the

907
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: guy doesn't grab it and twist it, he puts his

908
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: hand out on it. Yeah, and that's different.

909
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: Now you grab the mask, you're gonna probably get flagged,

910
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: especially if you.

911
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: If you drag him down by it. Yeah, and you're right,

912
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: there was there used to be no assisting the runner.

913
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: But you still can't pull the runner on.

914
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: You can't pull him, but you can push him and

915
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: so well you know that. I don't know. Yes, that

916
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: would fix it, but it would also take some things

917
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: away in your running game when you get on short

918
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: yardage or whatever, where a guy breaks through into the

919
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: second level and he's kind of pushed. Then the problem was,

920
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: or one of the things they didn't want was that

921
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: the runner was only the only guy allowed to keep

922
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: playing offensively. Nobody else could come and help push the pile.

923
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: Nobody else could come block guys off the runner because

924
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: it would have been assisting the runner, so that it

925
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: was a hard rule to adhere to in certain situations.

926
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: They just took it out, and now the teams have

927
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: gone the other way and started to, you know, to

928
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: whip eyes.

929
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: Once again, assisting in the office once again. Is how

930
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: many of the rules go right.

931
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: Right, So there's a lot in it, and all that

932
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: stuff you said is true, except for the halo part.

933
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: There's never been one of those in the NFL. And

934
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: I could see that on punt team. If you want

935
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 3: to increase punt returns, give the guy some space, he'll

936
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: start catching the run. You get these guys, those guys

937
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: back there nuts, so yeah, they'll do anything if they

938
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: got a little space.

939
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here.

940
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Speaker 2: Our number two will be Draft Prospect Talk and set

941
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Speaker 2: to join us to help us with that thirty third

942
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Speaker 2: team lead. NFL Draft analyst Kyle Krabs will be joining us.

943
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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with him next year. On One Bill's Live,

944
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: presented by Colida of Health.

945
00:50:44,560 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 9: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

946
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

947
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: All right, checkon our the show here One Bill's Live.

948
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We're going to talk

949
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: a little draft now, and here to do that with

950
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: us is lead NFL draft analyst for the thirty third team.

951
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: It's Kyle Krabs joining us here on the show. Kyle,

952
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: thanks for the time, first and foremost, and uh, we'll

953
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: start right out of the shoot here with one of

954
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Speaker 2: your latest mock drafts in which you have the Bills

955
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: at pick thirty taking Iowa State corner Darian Porter. And uh,

956
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: I know Porter's young at the position, former wide receiver.

957
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: Are you hearing that he's kind of climbing boards because

958
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: the resume isn't deep at corner. I know he's got

959
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: physical traits, there's no denying that. But do you see

960
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: this as a guy that could climb into the late

961
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: day one conversation?

962
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 10: I think so. I think the momentum is here based

963
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 10: off of a guy that checked in j just short

964
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 10: of six foot three and has a monster wingspan, he's

965
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 10: got over thirty three inch arms, so that's a really

966
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 10: rare blend when you consider he also ran a four

967
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 10: to three flat, So the traits are great, right, But

968
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 10: as you mentioned, he was a wide receiver all the

969
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 10: way through high school his first year at Iowa State,

970
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 10: so he's still relatively new to playing corner. But you

971
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 10: see how he leverages, particularly in zone, and utilizes that

972
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 10: length and that athleticism and really rare transitional quickness for

973
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 10: such a tall athlete to play on the perimeter to

974
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 10: kind of close and compress throwing windows from zone. And

975
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 10: you think about how that could potentially pair with Buffalo's

976
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 10: secondary and obviously Sean McDermott and the job that they do,

977
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 10: which is as good of any as far as spacing

978
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 10: the back seven with their their zone coverages and their

979
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 10: development at the position, with what they've done with Christian Benford,

980
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 10: who just got rewarded with a big time contract. I

981
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 10: think it's a really exciting cost controlled fit too at

982
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 10: a premium position where I know Dan Jackson is a

983
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 10: familiar player, so they probably feel good about what that

984
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 10: floor can look like. But you want to have a

985
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 10: potential boom with a pair of corners that have really

986
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 10: rare trades. Benford and Porter would be it.

987
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, where does Darien Porter fit with the hierarchy of

988
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: the cornerback class this year? I mean, is he wanted?

989
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean how many corners you have going before? I

990
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: didn't check your mind. I forgot to check the mark

991
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: draft how many corners went ahead of him because I

992
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: wanted to go do a little deeper dive on what

993
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: he was. But how you know how far down the

994
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 3: depth chart in cornerback does he go on your list?

995
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 10: I think he is a solid chance to be the

996
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 10: fourth corner off the board. I think you have Will

997
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 10: Johnson from Michigan, who was a consensus guy going back

998
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 10: to the summertime and he missed a little bit of

999
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 10: time this year. You obviously have Travis Hunter, whether he's

1000
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 10: gonna play wide receiver or corner. And then you have

1001
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 10: Jay Barron, who is a hot, hot, hot name at

1002
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 10: Texas as a guy who can play inside outside. He

1003
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 10: said it his prota. Some teams were asking about playing safety.

1004
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 10: He was a nickel guy before this past year and

1005
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 10: moved outside and had a lot of ball production. Two

1006
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 10: of the names up on that list, Benjamin Morrison and

1007
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 10: savonn Revel are really talented guys, but both of them

1008
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 10: had season ending injuries where I think that may eventually

1009
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 10: hurt those guys as far as the comfortability with the medicals.

1010
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 10: It was a hit for Morrison and an ACL for

1011
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 10: Revel in September, so the injuries at that spot. Porter,

1012
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 10: being the guy that tested really well, he's put his

1013
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 10: best tape out here recently, doesn't have the injury concerned.

1014
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 10: I think him and Maxwell Hairston from Kentucky for me,

1015
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 10: would be in the running for CB four CB five.

1016
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's talk about those injury concerns a little

1017
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: bit because I know Will Johnson had a turf toe

1018
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: also then a hamstring here hasn't really tested for a

1019
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: team like the Bills, who you can unequivocally argue could

1020
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: use a Day one starter at corner to line up

1021
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: opposite Benford outside.

1022
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: Are they?

1023
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, teams probably don't want to mess with Revel

1024
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: or Morrison. I'm wondering about Will Johnson too. Obviously not

1025
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 2: as severe an injury, but he did only play six

1026
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: games last year and some of this other stuff has

1027
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: lingered into the pre draft process. Where are people on

1028
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Will Johnson?

1029
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 10: I definitely feel think and feel as though Will has

1030
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 10: lost some momentum in his projection because people are waiting

1031
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 10: for we want to see the athletic profile, the lingering issues.

1032
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 10: It feels a little bit to me like what happened

1033
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 10: with Derek Stingley when he was coming out where he

1034
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 10: had like the phenomenal freshman season at LSU. The next

1035
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 10: two seasons with him weren't his best ball and he

1036
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 10: was kind of always fighting something, it felt like, and

1037
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 10: then there was the debate between him and Sauce Gardner

1038
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 10: in that draft class. They both end up being very

1039
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 10: talented and very impactful NFL players. I think Will will

1040
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 10: be fine. But this whole pre draft process is risk assessment, right,

1041
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 10: and you're looking for reasons to cross guys off your

1042
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 10: list because of perceived risk. And for Will to have

1043
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 10: had the turf toe and then what it was a

1044
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 10: hamstring or something else that prevented him from working out

1045
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 10: at the Pro Day, it's just has not been the

1046
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 10: complete process of checking the box relative to other guys

1047
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 10: and what they've been able to do with the All

1048
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 10: Star events in the NFL Combine and going through the

1049
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 10: interview process as well.

1050
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: When you break this down at the top of the draft,

1051
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: and so much of you know, when you get down,

1052
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 3: you're taking you know, the third or fourth or fifth

1053
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: corner off the board, even if it's a guy you've

1054
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: really felt like it's a great value. A lot of

1055
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: it depends on what happens at the top of the draft.

1056
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 3: How do you see the top of the draft falling?

1057
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: Tennessee seems to be a little bit tight lipped about

1058
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: what they're going to do with their number one overall pick,

1059
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: and then of course Cleveland and the Giants are right behind. Now,

1060
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: how do you do you see any movement happening with

1061
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: those top three or four five picks.

1062
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 10: I think you've seen some of the urgency go where

1063
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 10: Tennessee went out and they spend in free agency and

1064
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 10: they gave Dan Moore a really big contract to be

1065
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 10: a tackle, and then they bring in Zeitler to be

1066
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 10: a guard for them. That kind of spells to me

1067
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 10: like we're going to pick a quarterback with that number

1068
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 10: one overall pick. But I do agree that they've been

1069
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 10: kind of coy about it, and maybe some of that

1070
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 10: is could they coax a godfather offer from the Giants

1071
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 10: that they just simply couldn't refuse if New York got

1072
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 10: super desperate, and I think the Giants have done their

1073
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 10: bart to kind of take some of that pressure off

1074
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 10: by signing Winston and Russell Wilson in free agency. So

1075
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 10: I think you'll probably see fairly static through the top five.

1076
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 10: How it goes from there is going to be really

1077
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 10: fascinating because you're gonna have some scheme specific type of

1078
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 10: fits where teams maybe want to get aggressive and go

1079
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 10: up and get a guy, but I'm sure most teams

1080
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 10: would probably like to slide down and get some more

1081
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 10: Day two draft capital, just because that feels like where

1082
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 10: the best of value and depth is in this year's class.

1083
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, wanted to go over some prospects as you have

1084
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: an extensive number of scouting reports up at the thirty

1085
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: third team, and since we're talking corners, this was a

1086
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: guy that I kind of wanted to get your take on.

1087
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: Jacob Parish from Kansas State. You know, has played outside,

1088
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: has also played in the nickel. Some people project him

1089
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: as a nickel only in the NFL. Do you think

1090
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: he can be more than that at the NFL level?

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Speaker 10: I think he can. I think he's got a really

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00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 10: really pleasant blend of traits where he's a former one

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 10: hundred guy. You saw that speed at the combine he

1094
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 10: ran in the four threes only five nine and three quarters.

1095
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 10: But uh that that size is offset a little bit

1096
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 10: by he's actually above the fiftieth percentile for his wingspan

1097
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 10: despite being that stature, so that helps him a little bit.

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00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 10: And man, he he's really feisty and press coverage. I

1099
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 10: see some Byron Murphy in his game as an NFL

1100
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 10: corner where he tackles he's not afraid to insert. But

1101
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 10: because of his height, he actually has some natural leverage

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Speaker 10: that he's able to provide as well. So I think

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00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 10: the only knock that I have on him is the

1104
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 10: stature and how it might get impacted against playing against

1105
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 10: big bodied X receivers that can kind of post you

1106
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 10: up when you're playing in isolation against him. But he's

1107
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 10: played a full coverage matrix as far as playing a

1108
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 10: lot of cover one playing on an island on the outside.

1109
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 10: But he's got really quick transitions because he's built low

1110
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 10: to the grounds. It's a really fun mix of trades.

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00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: Give us a little bit of your opinion about you know,

1112
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: Bills are deep defensive tackle group. In this draft. The

1113
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: Bills have been knocked a ton of defensive tackles over

1114
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. Zeke Biggers from Georgia Tech

1115
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Speaker 3: maybe on the board for Buffalo at thirty.

1116
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: He'll be a little bit later.

1117
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 3: Probably maybe a little later too, but give us a

1118
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: little give us your take on Zeke Biggers from Georgia Tech.

1119
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 10: I think he's a really interesting developmental type player, where

1120
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 10: you know, as a player who's pushing three twenty, he

1121
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 10: had some nice lower body explosiveness at the combine and

1122
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 10: I think you see that on his tape with some

1123
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 10: of the linear reps that he have, I do think

1124
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 10: he is more of a linear athlete. And for a

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Speaker 10: guy that's probably gonna be an a gap defender at

1126
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 10: the next level, that's that's not the end of the world, right.

1127
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 10: You have your space, you're responsible for and you're responsible

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 10: for keeping guys like if it was Buffalo Tarrell Bernard

1129
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 10: and Matt Malone. You keep those guys clean so they

1130
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 10: can flow to the football. He's got enough size to

1131
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 10: do that. I think there's some leverage, consistency things with

1132
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 10: him that he can really aspire to get better at

1133
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 10: and it will help him be a more impactful player

1134
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 10: in the A gaps but explosive linear athlete that's three

1135
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 10: twenty and is a load to move when he stays

1136
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 10: down on his pads is exactly what you're looking for.

1137
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 10: And those guys aren't in super high demand, but every

1138
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 10: team needs him, and I think it's it's gonna play

1139
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 10: in his favor when it comes down to the draft

1140
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 10: weekend probably, I would imagine sometime one day three.

1141
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was impressed with how many tackles that guy's

1142
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: made with one hand, really strong hands.

1143
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, he's one of those guys too.

1144
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's listed. He's six six h No,

1145
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: he's a big guy and three to twenty plus, and

1146
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: guys like that get a lot of opportunity because that

1147
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: size is such a weapon, and you know, you can

1148
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: you can only coach so much, you know, and a

1149
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: guy with those kind of tools is gonna give him

1150
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: a chance.

1151
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 10: Well, and to you to your guys' point as well,

1152
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 10: I know you just showed one of the block kicks.

1153
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 10: He had four block kicks as well, So there's like

1154
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 10: an added bonus special teams value for a guy that's

1155
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 10: that tall and that long. But he jumped thirty four inches,

1156
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 10: so like he can get up. Yeah, and you know

1157
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 10: that four block kicks I think speaks for itself. So

1158
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 10: you're talking a little added bonus to put him in

1159
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 10: one of those A gaps on field goal and potentially

1160
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 10: get a chance to block some kicks and have some

1161
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 10: special teams value, which you can't really say for a

1162
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 10: lot of perceived A gap defenders.

1163
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, many, many believe.

1164
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: And we're probably in this boat that you know, the

1165
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: Bills have to help their defense up front and on

1166
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: the back end, primarily at corner, but safety could use

1167
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: some depth as well, maybe a future frontline player in time.

1168
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: Uh So they're probably addressing safety somewhere Day two, Day three,

1169
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: And I gotta say, like, I know, Kevin Winston gets

1170
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: all the pub at Penn State and he's coming off

1171
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: an injury, so there's something to figure out there. But

1172
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: Jalen Reid is a guy whose tape I like an

1173
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: awful lot. Seems to be around the ball a lot,

1174
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: good anticipator in terms of where things are headed, reads

1175
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: plays like what's your thoughts on him?

1176
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a pretty diverse player as far as the

1177
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 10: responsibilities and the injury to Winston, I think actually kind

1178
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 10: of expanded his responsibility even more. For a guy who

1179
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 10: could play up on the second level, could play split

1180
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 10: field coverages, not afraid to insert an attack against the run.

1181
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 10: I like the physicality and the length that he plays

1182
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 10: with as a sufficient level athlete and gets gets by

1183
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 10: with the athleticism, but it's the instincts for him that

1184
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 10: I think is one of the better qualities. So anytime

1185
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 10: you get these bigger bodied safeties and you know, six

1186
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 10: foot one two ten in that ballpark as far as side,

1187
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 10: depending on where his actual playing weight is, those guys

1188
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 10: that are aggressive and can get downhill, but also have

1189
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 10: enough to give you sufficient spacing on the back end.

1190
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 10: It's kind of like the A gap defenders we just

1191
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 10: talked about. You know, they're not considered a premium position,

1192
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 10: but I don't think it's a coincidence that most really

1193
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 10: effective defenses at the league end up having those those

1194
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 10: guys that can give you quality play at that spot.

1195
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 10: So I think he really helped himself this year with

1196
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 10: his play just because Winston going down kind of forced

1197
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 10: him to take more of a leadership role in that secondary.

1198
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: Well, the Bills have got a really excellent running back stable.

1199
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: But there's some running backs, and you're talking about the

1200
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: Bills who may take one of these guys as developmental

1201
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: or just because they always seem to have a running

1202
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: back in the draft. You've got like Jordan James, Dylan Samson,

1203
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 3: Jaden Blue. Give us a little thumbnail on the best

1204
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: one of these guys that you think is maybe available.

1205
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 10: If Jayden Blue could get the ball security stuff under control,

1206
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 10: I think he has the most electric profile of the players.

1207
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 10: He doesn't all have a lot of tread on the tires,

1208
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 10: and he can absolutely fly it. Ran a fourth three

1209
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 10: eight with a one to five to two ten yards split,

1210
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 10: but lost four fumbles on barely two hundred carries since

1211
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two. So he's a home run play waiting

1212
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 10: to happen. He's slippery, But the ball security and then

1213
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 10: the profile, as far as what do you have in

1214
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 10: the passing game? Can you trust him in protection? Those

1215
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 10: are the kinds of things for a young back. You

1216
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 10: got to earn the trust of the coach, right, and

1217
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 10: you got to take care of the football and you

1218
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 10: got to protect the quarterback. So I think in a

1219
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 10: very very deep running back class, despite how dynamic and

1220
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 10: explosive he is. I think that may work against his

1221
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 10: favor a little bit, but whoever gets their hands on

1222
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 10: him is definitely going to be hoping and betting that

1223
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 10: we can take care of the ball security stuff, because

1224
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 10: if you do, he has hold your breath speed in

1225
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 10: the open field.

1226
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: He's really like home run ability for sure.

1227
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: I know you also do a Dolphins podcast, KYLESO, maybe

1228
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: give us a sense on our AFC East brethren here.

1229
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: They got a lot to fix. Safety as a cavernous

1230
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: whole for them. They could probably use some help for

1231
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: Zach Seeler on the defensive interior a little bit, and

1232
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: often line still sticking out there like a sore thumb,

1233
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: especially if Tron Armstead.

1234
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know what's going on there.

1235
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 2: So where do you see the Dolphins going, at least

1236
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: in round one, knowing the tackle class is thinner, do

1237
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: you think they jump on that early?

1238
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 10: I think they really like what they saw from Patrick Paul,

1239
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 10: the second round draft choice from the twenty four class,

1240
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 10: at left tackle. There were times where he got put

1241
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 10: into action at right tackle when Armstead would dress and

1242
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 10: Austin Jackson missed the entire second half of the season.

1243
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 10: He got hurt on the last play in the second

1244
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 10: Buffalo game, and when he went down, they had no

1245
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 10: ability to run the football, and you saw Patrick Paul

1246
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 10: try to step in there and some spurts. And he

1247
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 10: played his entire career at left tackle at Houston, and

1248
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 10: when he went over to the right side, he looked

1249
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 10: like a guy who was trying to play with his

1250
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 10: other hand and foot up and try to figure everything out.

1251
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 10: So I think they'll probably if Armstead does not come back,

1252
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 10: they will look for probably some young competition slash, depth slash,

1253
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 10: a swing tackle type player. But I would say one

1254
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 10: of the guard spots is the more vacant. They signed

1255
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 10: James Daniels in free agency, who should be a really

1256
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 10: good fit for them, still kind of in the prime

1257
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 10: of his career, although he is coming off of an

1258
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 10: injury this past season, So I would look for a

1259
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 10: guard probably on Day two defensive tackle. Would not be

1260
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 10: surprised if they don't end up double dipping in this

1261
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 10: draft class because of how deep it is, and it's

1262
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 10: Zach Seeler and they brought back Benito Jones and not

1263
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 10: much out, not much else to work in there. But

1264
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 10: I wouldn't be surprised if corner is where they end

1265
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 10: up going in the first round with Will Johnson or

1266
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 10: to Day Baron. They moved on from Kendall Fuller after

1267
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 10: one season in free agency, so they have Jalen Ramsey.

1268
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 10: They brought back cater Co who is a restricted free

1269
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 10: agent that other cornerback spot for them. They like to

1270
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 10: draft those quote unquote premium positions early, which would be

1271
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 10: your quarterback, your wide receiver, your offensive tackle, your pass rushers,

1272
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 10: in your corners. I think that's probably where you have

1273
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 10: a likely intersection of value on the board and what

1274
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 10: the Dolphins need.

1275
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they haven't been happy with Cam Smith.

1276
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: It was their second round pick a couple of years ago.

1277
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: He hasn't really developed into a frontline starter, so yeah,

1278
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: maybe that's the way they go. Kyle, thanks very much

1279
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 2: for the time. If we don't talk to you before

1280
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: the draft, enjoy it. Otherwise we'll catch up with you

1281
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: down the line here in the offseason.

1282
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 10: That sounds great. It was great talking some ball with

1283
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 10: you guys, and I appreciate you having me on all right.

1284
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: That's Kyle Krabs, lead NFL draft analyst for the thirty

1285
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: thirty team. Also does a Dolphins podcast, so we figured

1286
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: we'd get some intel from him on how he thinks

1287
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: that's going to go for them. They're drafted in front

1288
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: of the Bills, as we know, and they're in the

1289
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: market for some similar positions to that of Buffalo corner

1290
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,879
Speaker 2: among them as well as safety.

1291
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: They're all the way up at the thirteenth.

1292
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen Johnny Barren mock deus high as thirteen

1293
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: to the Dolphins the Texas corner, so could happen. They

1294
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: drafted Cam Smith the corner out of South Carolina in

1295
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: the second round a couple of years ago, and I

1296
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: think they were believing by this time he'd be a

1297
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: starter for them on their defense and it just has

1298
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: not materialized for them at all. So another team that

1299
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: you know had a miss at corner and now they're

1300
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: still trying to make up for that, right, So that

1301
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 2: is that got to get back to our conversation about

1302
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: the kickoff change, moving touchbacks out to the thirty five

1303
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Speaker 2: for this coming season. How do you think it will

1304
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: change game strategy this fall? Eight oh three zero five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

1306
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: the numbers to get on board, we go to Ron

1307
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: on a sale next. Who's been waiting patiently?

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Ron?

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Speaker 11: I'm glad you took the call today. You know, there's

1310
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 11: something trouble in me. I love Buffalo, really I do.

1311
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 11: I love football, and I pay attention to everything that

1312
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 11: exists in the game. And there's something that it's got

1313
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 11: to be said. It's gotta be said. He got three

1314
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 11: teams in this division, all right, and I think they're

1315
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 11: fed up with Buffalo being on top five seasons. And

1316
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 11: we're going to have to deal with a tough a

1317
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 11: tough division this year. And the offense has got to

1318
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 11: change the system of a fullback and Josh in the backfield.

1319
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 11: They've got to put a fullback back there. On first downs,

1320
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 11: they got made a lot of mistakes. That young lady

1321
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 11: that comes on the show, you even brought it up.

1322
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 11: She said that hurt them a little bit last year.

1323
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 11: When you're running the football, you've got to make those

1324
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 11: three and one, three and two and three and on

1325
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 11: third downs three and three. But with a fullback, you've

1326
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 11: got so many options to go and added to the team,

1327
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 11: you know, he can block for Josha to roll out

1328
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 11: when he goes to throw, he can go to a

1329
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 11: hole in the line for the half back, or he

1330
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 11: can carry the ball. There's so many options with that.

1331
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 11: But I think the three teams are going to give

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 11: them a tough time this year. I don't think they're

1333
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 11: going to run away with it. And the other thing

1334
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 11: they averaged I believe forty points a secred season on offense.

1335
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 11: You put a fullback in there, how many of you

1336
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 11: thinks they'll score? Not only that, but what they did

1337
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 11: to Detroit. I picked Detroit if Buffalo didn't make it.

1338
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 11: They scored over one hundred points in two games. You

1339
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 11: put a full back in there, they're gonna run rampid

1340
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 11: with with that running game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say this, Ron, if you

1342
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: noticed towards the end of the season, Reggie Gilliam was

1343
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: getting a lot more playing time in Buffalo's backfield. As

1344
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, they were running I formation plays

1345
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: in the last quarter of the season. So I think

1346
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 2: we already began to see an uptick in Reggie Gilliam's

1347
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: time on the field on offense, where he wasn't just

1348
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: this move guy or this wing on the right or

1349
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: left side of the formation. He was lining up in

1350
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: the backfield in the eye or an offset eye, and

1351
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: we noticed it over the final quarter of the regular season,

1352
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: he was being utilized more. I don't have the percentages

1353
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 2: in front of me, but we all saw.

1354
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Speaker 3: That, right, Yeah, And I get it. You think adding

1355
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 3: a fullback and running the ball more than they did

1356
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: would have led to more points. I don't know. They

1357
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: said a franchise record and led the NFL in scoring

1358
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 3: last year. I don't know why. I mean, I get

1359
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: it you want to play better, but but I don't

1360
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 3: know what run. I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish.

1361
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you never at some point you got to

1362
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 3: stop the other team. People were struggling to stop our team.

1363
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 3: And I don't know that a fullback would have led

1364
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: to more points or fewer points, because you know, you

1365
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 3: would have run out of clock because of the running clock.

1366
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: After running plays, the Bills were fifty to fifty run

1367
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 3: pass hard to anticipate what they were going to do

1368
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: from play to play. As the Brownie said, the fullback

1369
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: got plenty of playing time last year, and especially I

1370
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 3: don't know why you think this year is going to

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: be different with the Dolphins, Patriots, and Jets that they

1372
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: think they fed up with the Bills. Well, that's the

1373
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: way they were fed up with the Bills when the

1374
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 3: Bills were in a drought. That you're not going to

1375
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: get any breaks from any other team. And just the

1376
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: fact that the Bills have won five straight, it just

1377
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: means they're they're still trying to build their team as

1378
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 3: good as they can build it. Yeah, I'm sure they

1379
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 3: would love to knock the Bills off, certainly, but you

1380
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: know they they're trying. They're just trying to get their

1381
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 3: team as good as it can be and then see

1382
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 3: what they can do with I guess their entire schedule,

1383
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: not just the Bills. And I don't think you have

1384
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 3: to light a fire under any other team in the

1385
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: NFL to get them to play hard or to whatever.

1386
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 3: So and I'm not saying the Bills are gonna The

1387
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 3: Bills are the team to beat in the AFC East.

1388
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: They are the team to beat here in April, and

1389
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,480
Speaker 3: they were in December and January and November and October

1390
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 3: and September. They were the team in the AFC East

1391
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: to beat, and they have been for five years, five

1392
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: straight years. They still are. Certainly those teams have got

1393
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: they've got a target on their back. But you know

1394
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 3: they're chasing the Bills and they're gonna continue to chase them. Yeah,

1395
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 3: that's all there is to it. I So there you go.

1396
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm trying to while Steve was talking, I

1397
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: was trying to get the play count with the fullback

1398
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: on the field from last season. I don't have it yet,

1399
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 2: but I'll track it down at some point in time,

1400
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: maybe during this break.

1401
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: We just think it. I think it's a waste, not

1402
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: a waste of time. It's way down the priority list. Mean,

1403
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: nobody scored usage on an offense that scored more points

1404
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 3: to anybody in the league last year. Why are you

1405
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 3: tweaking that that you got big? You got bigger, more

1406
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 3: urgent things going on than your fullback in this offense?

1407
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and look, offenses more often change every year

1408
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: because they have to to stay unpredictable, and I would anticipate.

1409
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm curious to see if what we witnessed the

1410
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: last quarter of the season in the regular season, with

1411
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: more I formation, more offset I in their run game,

1412
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: are we going to see more of that coming into

1413
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: this season? Because if you remember, Joe Brady took over

1414
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: for the last nine games last in twenty three, and

1415
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: what did we see? We saw a greater propensity of

1416
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 2: leaning towards the run. Granted there were some extenuating circumstances

1417
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: for that, but they were a fifty two percent run

1418
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: team under Joe Brady after he took over in twenty

1419
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: twenty three. What happened this year, Bills were a forty

1420
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: nine percent runting in the regular season throughout.

1421
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: That hasn't happened in five years.

1422
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm wondering if seeing Reggie Gilliam in the

1423
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 2: eye and offset eye, if that personnel grouping is something

1424
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna see more of this year based on how

1425
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: past history has worked.

1426
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: With Joe Brady.

1427
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: And if you didn't know it, let me just remind you.

1428
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 3: If you forgot about it, they ran the ball a

1429
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 3: lot more under Joe Brady and that was the year

1430
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 3: that Josh won the MVP. So yeah, I don't I'll

1431
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: just say this. I love you Ron and thanks for Collin,

1432
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: but the full back is not the key to success

1433
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: offensive success anymore with the Buffalo Bills.

1434
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: It's not the days of Marion Madley, right.

1435
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: I love full backs as much as the next guy,

1436
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: unless the next guy is larry'sonka.

1437
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: The Bills ran the eighth most plays in the league

1438
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: with a fullback on the field.

1439
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighth most.

1440
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 3: And you're asking me what you think, how much you

1441
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 3: think they would have scored with a fullback on the

1442
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 3: field more less?

1443
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was only eighty plays out of a thousand.

1444
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: They would have scored less than that because.

1445
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: It's a it's a lesser athlete on the field, no

1446
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: offense or age.

1447
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 3: Gilly, you're not going you're not gonna run as many

1448
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 3: offensive plays if you run the ball a ton.

1449
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: And I because there're more time consumer.

1450
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,919
Speaker 3: And yeah, okay, he can Your full back can protect,

1451
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: he can lead block, he can pass protect, he can

1452
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 3: lead block, he can move around. But you got James

1453
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: Cook behind him. You're not gonna throw the full back

1454
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: the ball. The fullback is just an extra offensive lineman

1455
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 3: in that case that you can move it before the snap.

1456
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: All that. We all know what a fullback can do.

1457
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: It's all yeah, and if you got a great one,

1458
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: yes you should use him all that stuff, but come on,

1459
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 3: the offense is not the priority at this point in

1460
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: the season. You're you're trying to pick plays that may

1461
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: happen in September, and you know, you know who's gonna

1462
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: be on the team. So yeah, that full back and

1463
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 3: all that stuff is way down the list of priorities

1464
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: in April.

1465
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but your phone calls.

1466
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: When we return One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

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01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: it's Buffalo Bill's Rate.

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: All right. Back here on One Bill's Live.

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you talking about how game

1470
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: strategy might change for the upcoming season with the rule

1471
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 2: change now enacted to have touchbacks in the end zone

1472
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: on kickoffs now start at the thirty five yard line.

1473
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,879
Speaker 2: League doing this to prompt more returns for the kickoff,

1474
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: which I think will happen. They're projecting returns to go

1475
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: up from thirty three percent last year to between sixty

1476
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: and seventy percent this year because start letting your opposing

1477
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: offense start at the thirty five is be deemed too

1478
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: punitive to undertake.

1479
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 3: The thought process is this if you need to be

1480
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 3: walked through it. Last year, teams didn't want to risk

1481
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: a long touched a long kickoff return, so they kicked

1482
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: it out of the end zone and they just gave

1483
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: him the ball at the thirty That extra five yards

1484
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 3: seems to be a tipping point of what teams believe

1485
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: their coverage unit can consistently do better than you know.

1486
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: They think they can tackle a return guy inside the

1487
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 3: thirty five or inside the thirty and thereby gaining back

1488
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: a couple of yards of field position or however many

1489
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: yards of field position. The incentive wasn't there for teams

1490
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: to risk giving up the touchdown return and kicking and

1491
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: kicking it into the in the field of play and

1492
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 3: inviting the other team to return it. They didn't feel

1493
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 3: like the it was incentivized enough. Now, if you're giving

1494
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: them the ball at the thirty five, most teams will say,

1495
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: you know what, I think we can do better than that,

1496
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: and they'll they'll invite the return team to return and

1497
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 3: kick it in the field to play. Not always, but

1498
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 3: certainly they're expecting the coaches to make different decisions because

1499
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: of that. And we'll see if it comes to pass.

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Speaker 2: Eight three h five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty, then i'mber to join us, and we

1502
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: go back to the phones and to Nick in New York.

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

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01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: Nick?

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, just very quickly, I want to thank you

1506
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 12: for having Kyle Krabs on. I celebrate the man's entire catalog.

1507
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 12: There are few in the football punditry. All due respects

1508
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 12: to present company who know the game as well as

1509
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 12: Kyle and communicate it in an accessible way the way

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 12: he's able to. So I saw him post on Twitter

1511
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 12: the other day that after the draft he's actually going

1512
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 12: to be a free agent, at least in so far

1513
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,919
Speaker 12: as his work with the thirty third team is concerned.

1514
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 12: So maybe you guys are able to have him on

1515
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 12: more frequently. I know he's a Dolphins fan, but we

1516
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 12: won't hold that against him.

1517
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: He's really you.

1518
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 12: Know, as regards the kickoff, I think we should just

1519
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 12: get ready for a whole lot of fun. And I

1520
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 12: think while we fans at home should prepare for the unexpected.

1521
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 12: I'm excited for what Chris Taber cooks up. And I

1522
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 12: think it was week eighteen, correct me, guys if you

1523
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 12: know that I'm wrong. But didn't Tyler Bass like try

1524
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 12: one of those squib kicks that landed in that landing area?

1525
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

1526
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 12: I was kind of waiting for Yeah, I was kind

1527
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 12: of waiting for that all season. And I think I've

1528
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 12: heard you Steve mentioned it a bunch of times, right, like,

1529
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 12: kick it down there, let it bounce around and see

1530
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 12: what happens. Kind of seems like that's the way things

1531
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 12: are going to go. And I guess off the top

1532
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 12: of my head. It brings up a question. They did

1533
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 12: away with the fair kich, right, So you can't just

1534
01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 12: pop it up in the air.

1535
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 10: Now?

1536
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 12: Is that only in college? Am I getting confused?

1537
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 4: No?

1538
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: You can fair catch. You can fair catch a kickoff. No,

1539
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 3: they did, they do it.

1540
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: That was in for a year.

1541
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: Oh they remember when the when the touchback or fair

1542
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: catch you get it at the twenty five That was

1543
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: a one year only rule, right, and it got tossed

1544
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 2: out when they replaced it with the dynamic kickoff for

1545
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: twenty four.

1546
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't be that you could fair catch

1547
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 3: a kickoff and the but and the ball's dead right

1548
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 3: where you catch it. I think if yeah, and that

1549
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: that's if that's out, that's out. But I thought you still,

1550
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: I thought you could still fair catch it. No, got

1551
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: it wherever you could catch it.

1552
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a one year only rule and they

1553
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: didn't bring it back, okay because they had.

1554
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: The dynamic kickoff instead.

1555
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: Look, guys, we have this new can't you see at

1556
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: the wouldn't it be great if they treated like the

1557
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 2: competition committee meetings or the league meetings like a like

1558
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: a game show. Ye, well, behind curtain number two, we

1559
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 2: have the dynamic kickoff. Tell them what they've won, Johnny,

1560
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: you know, like just kind of well, you guys get

1561
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: to line up five yards apart from each other at

1562
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: the thirty and thirty five yard line. Touchbacks will be

1563
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: brought out to the thirty. We thought about the thirty five,

1564
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 2: but you know, yeah that it'll be a lot more entertaining,

1565
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: fewer people that fall asleep.

1566
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: I cannot I yeah, I didn't know that you. I

1567
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 3: actually did not know that you can't fair catch it, anam.

1568
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1569
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: When they put it one.

1570
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 2: When they put that in, it was a one year rule,

1571
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: like a lot of new rules are. So then last

1572
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: year when it comes up to ratify it as a

1573
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: permanent rule, they said, well, we're not doing that because

1574
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 2: we're going to do the dynamic kickoff instead.

1575
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: During my career, you could always fair catch a kickoff.

1576
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: I got a check, but I'm pretty sure they took

1577
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: that out, or at least the iteration of the rule

1578
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: that says it goes to the twenty five automatically.

1579
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Right, that's not a rule. I don't think anymore. I

1580
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 3: thought you still maybe I'm crossed to catch it, but

1581
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: it get you get it where you catch it.

1582
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: Not.

1583
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be the twenty five right the

1584
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: year rule.

1585
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: That's what I did that when they that was a

1586
01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: rule when they were trying to stop cushions. That was

1587
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: their first that was their first attempt at changing that rule, and.

1588
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: It was no, AI, they don't have it right. Well

1589
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: we'll find out one year. Okay, yep, I'll have to

1590
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: take a look at that again.

1591
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 11: Uh.

1592
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Eight oh three five eight.

1593
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: Five fifty two five fifty the number to join us

1594
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: as we're talking game strategy. Uh, with the new kickoff

1595
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: touchback going out to.

1596
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: The thirty five.

1597
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't change. We didn't talk about the

1598
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: hawkeye technology.

1599
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: Well, the hawkeye technology was approved. So what that's going

1600
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: to do is act as a measuring tool.

1601
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: The officials on.

1602
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: The field will still spot the ball at the end

1603
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 2: of a play. Hawkeye technology will come into play when

1604
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: it's time to determine whether a play resulted in a

1605
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: first down or not. The chain gang will still exist

1606
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: as a secondary means the measure it.

1607
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 3: They're a backup to the machine.

1608
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: They are as they should be.

1609
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: That's I want to see it. Are they gonna have

1610
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: a thing where we can watch that hawkeye technology? Say

1611
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 3: yes or no? I mean, come on, it's gotta be.

1612
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: You want to you want to separate score show show

1613
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: me the toe first point centimeters short to.

1614
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 3: Be blind to gain exactly. Yes, that's what you want.

1615
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 3: That's what I know you I want. Yes, it is

1616
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 3: one millimeters shy. I want to know in the league,

1617
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: what was the I.

1618
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Get a gene Stereota credit card in between the nose

1619
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: of the ball and that first out.

1620
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: I want. I want this sliced ultra thin. I want

1621
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 3: to know the shortest the shortest line to gain in

1622
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: the league this year was in Week ten Bills versus Lions,

1623
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 3: and it was three millimeters.

1624
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: We'll be sure to add that to next gen.

1625
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1626
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly what you mean. I think you

1627
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: might be the only one interested. Though we are up

1628
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: against the clock. We're going to take a break here.

1629
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna crack open the tweet sheet to get some

1630
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: final thoughts on whether you feel the change to the

1631
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: kickoffs with touchbacks at the thirty five yard line are

1632
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: going to change game strategy this fall. That's next here

1633
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's

1634
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, I think you got a

1635
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: chance to crack open the tweet sheet yet here, so

1636
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: we'll do that now as we're asking you about how

1637
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: you feel game strategy could be impacted with the change

1638
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: of kickoffs with touchbacks going out to the thirty five

1639
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: yard line. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1640
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 2: official equipment movement company of the Buffalo Bills, and Malcolm says,

1641
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: can you help us understand why any team whatever return

1642
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: a kick if you get to start to drive at

1643
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 2: the thirty five seems like the risk of returning is

1644
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: not worth it. If most kickoffs are stopped at the

1645
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: thirty four, well, the team's not going to kick it

1646
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: in the end zone, so your opportunity to down it

1647
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: goes away. You have to return it if it's in

1648
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: the field of play, provided it lands in the landing

1649
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: zone between the twenty yard line and the goal line.

1650
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: And that's designed so by making it punitive if you

1651
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: kick it in the end zone where a team will

1652
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: unequivocally down it to get it at the thirty five.

1653
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: They believe kicking teams will no longer kick it there.

1654
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: They will put it in the field of play to

1655
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: be returned, believing that their coverage unit can tackle that

1656
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: guy long before he gets to the thirty or even

1657
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: the thirty five.

1658
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: If you land the ball, and think about it, if

1659
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: you land the ball on the one, the guy lets

1660
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: it drop and go into the end zone, he downs it.

1661
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 3: They only get it at the twenty.

1662
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they only get it at the twenty.

1663
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: It hits the landing zone first and skit skids into

1664
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 2: the end zone.

1665
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 3: Both teams are going to be incentivized. Well, yeah, both

1666
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 3: teams are going to be incentivized in one way or

1667
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: the other. The kicking team is going to be incentivized to,

1668
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 3: you know, do a good job covering it and they'll

1669
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 3: get maybe if they get them at the twenty five

1670
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: ten yards of advantage. The return team has got to

1671
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 3: return it or they get penalized back to the twenty.

1672
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: You know. That's that's the thing. If the ball lands

1673
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 3: in the field of play, they got to return it. Yeah,

1674
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 3: it's not worth it not.

1675
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: To Bob says, seems like pushing the kickers back might

1676
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: have made more sense. Nate says it causes special teams

1677
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: to bet on their guys.

1678
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: I love this.

1679
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, You've got to trust that they're gonna do

1680
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 2: a make the right decision and then b be talented

1681
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 2: enough to give you a good return.

1682
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 3: And I said at the beginning of the show, it's

1683
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: roster management. You've got to have guys that can play.

1684
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 3: You can't just fill it up with a body. You

1685
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 3: need a guy that knows what's going on. His lights

1686
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 3: are on. And that's a little different than going out

1687
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: there and running a little half speed wind sprint.

1688
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Jack says, if I'm a coach, I tell my kicker

1689
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: to always line drive it to the five or ten

1690
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: so it bounces around and hopefully we cover the elicited

1691
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: return on returns, I'm telling my kick returner, so always

1692
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 2: down in the end zone when possible.

1693
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's a no brainer.

1694
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I'll take the thirty five on offense every day. Just remember,

1695
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: if it hits the landing zone first and then skids

1696
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 2: into the end zone and you down it there, you

1697
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: only get it at the twenty. It's got to reach

1698
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: the end zone on a fly or go out of

1699
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: the back of the enche.

1700
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: You get it at the thirty five.

1701
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: The next was jaylysh use a dropkick, so it acts

1702
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: like a punt, higher arc and not as far as

1703
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 3: a kickoff. It's got to land in the ending zone

1704
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: and everybody's standing still till it lands anyway, So pick

1705
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 3: it you can. You don't have to drop kick it

1706
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: to do that. Everybody's standing still until the ball hits

1707
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: the ground or somebody catches it. Then you can run

1708
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 3: after it. So all this other stuff it's doesn't help.

1709
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, good discussion today on that. I'm sure there'll be

1710
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: plenty more as we get closer to the regular season.

1711
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: That's it for us today.

1712
01:29:53,960 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: We'll see it tomorrow at one.

1713
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 7: He