1 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lake Kick is Live. It is Sunday night, 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: June fourteenth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty. We've 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: got a jam packed show tonight. We're going a bunch 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: of different directions. It's largely reactionary to just a lot 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: of things that I have heard from you. Believe it 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: or not. Yes, I've just sat around and listened this week, 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: and I've listened to you talk about everything from who's overrated, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: to which rivalries matter, to whose year it is and 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: believe it or not again, second time I've said that 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: in forty five seconds. I've got a few takes and 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: reactions to all of that. So we're really happy to 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: have you here. Subscribe to the twenty four to seven 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Sports YouTube channel if you haven't already, and find the 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Late Kick podcast and subscribe there as well. Those five 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: star reviews and written reviews sure do help over there. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: More on the podcast later Overrated Jim Harbaugh. Those two 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: find their way into respective article titles and podcasts and 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: show titles all the time. We're going to leave the 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: show with that. In just a second, I'm going to talk, 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: as I said, about a rivalry that matters a great 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: deal to certain portions and certain people in the South, 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: and it really matters nationally, just maybe in a different way, 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe not quite as emotionally. Also, whose year is it? 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: And I'm talking really hyper specifically about the SEC Eastern Division. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: I've been looking around at those aforementioned preview magazines, even 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: our own Brandon Marcelo here in house releasing his season 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: predictions SEC East going the way of the Florida Gators. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: We'll see not necessarily tonight in terms of prediction from us, 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna talk a little bit about what 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: needs to happen this year for Florida and what you 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: were thinking. I was over on the Swamp twenty four 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: to seven message board at Fairmounta today interacting with some 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: of you, so we will discuss all that. Let's start 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: it off though, I'm going to talk about Jim Harbaugh here. 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I want to take you, though, into a delivery room. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: You know how much I love metaphorical analyses, So let's 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: do it tonight. There he is your newborn son right there. 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: It's a miracle of life. And you look at him 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: and you say, wow, look at those limbs already pretty long. 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: You know that kid's going to be seven foot tall. 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: My son, my newborn son. He's been a live two minutes. 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be seven feet tall. Fast 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: forward twenty five years. There is your son. He's a 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: full grown man. He is a healthy, thank god, six 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: foot two, good job, perfectly, fully functioning adult male. And 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: yet you look at him every day and say you 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: are so short. Well not really, dad. He is six 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: foot two, which is well above the national American average 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: for males. But because you expected seven feet, he is, 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: at least when it comes to height, a complete failure. 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Most of you probably see where this is going, but 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: humor me anyway. So let's talk about Jim Harbaugh for 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: a second. Now, let me first, before I criticize anyone else, 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: tell you my general thoughts on Jim Harbaugh. I said, 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: point blank, when he got hired at Mission, I thought 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: that he was going to be to Urban Meyer in 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: the Big ten what Nick Saban had been to Urban 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Meyer in the SEC. I thought he could run him 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: out of the conference. I thought he could overtake him, 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: run him out of the conference. Now history says that 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that didn't quite happen, but I've been mildly disappointed. I 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: will say in what Harbaugh hasn't been able to accomplish 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: at Michigan. I don't think he's a failure by any 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination at Michigan. And I have never 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: called him, nor to my knowledge, any head coach period overrated. 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: But I do that or don't do that rather for 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: a very specific reason. So those are my general feelings 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: on Jim Harbaugh. That's where I stood at the time. 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I made a very, very, as it turns out, terrible 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: prediction at the time about Jim Harbaugh. So my prediction sucked. 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Jim Harba didn't suck. My prediction sucked. So with that 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: in mind, let's move on now, because there have been 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of headlines this past couple of weeks, as 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: there are this time every year, about who's overrated, which programs, 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: and which coaches were overrated. Of course, Jim Harbaugh, you've 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: heard the names. I don't need to really rehash it 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: or flash the headlines on the screen there. You've heard 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: the names, You've seen the national headlines. So and so 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: says Jim Harbaugh is the most overrated head coach in America. Well, 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: based on what scale? Is what I always ask anytime 81 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you tell me a guy's overrated. I ask what scale 82 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: are we working on here? Because I ask this simple 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: question about Jim Harbaugh, yes or no, is Michigan in 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: a better position now than they were the day he 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: was hired? I think unequivocally even his detractors would have 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: to admit this much to you. The answer is yes, 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: as far as I can tell. That's the definition of success. 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: At the very least, it's the definition of improvement. So 89 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: if you've improved something, you can't be a failure. So 90 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: we're not using the term failure. A lot of people 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: are using the term overrated. I just want to establish 92 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: what scale we're using here, and if we're not using 93 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the scale of are you better or worse than you 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: were when he arrived, there has to be some scale 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: and play. So what I like to do when anyone's 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about overrated so and so's overrated, I ask you 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: don't necessarily listen to the what that's being said, Listen 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to who's saying it. Identify who's talking about how overrated 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Jim Harball is. And then you need to hop in 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: your time machine and let's hit the not so way 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: back button. Let's go back a few years, say six 102 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: years when Jim Harball's being introduced, and like me, a 103 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of these folks who were slapping the overrated sticker 104 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: on Jim Harbaugh's forehead, they were making predictions of the 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: day and the weeks following his hiring two and they 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: were probably saying things very much in line with what 107 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I was saying. They probably expected him to do a 108 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: version of what I expected him to do, which was 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: takeover that man there who was presently perched atop the 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: Big Ten every year in urban Meyer, and he was 111 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: going to run things up there, and Michigan was going 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: to win who knows how many Big Ten championships? College 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: football playoff was still pretty new back then, brand new. 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: How many college football play pay off trips? Was he 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: going to make? Michigan's going to be at least in 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the conversation every year if not there. And everyone made 117 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: these grandiose predictions and then they didn't come true, and 118 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you arrive at a classic media conundrum. I'm not saying 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: fans didn't make predictions, but fans don't garner national headlines. 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Media types do. So that classical media conundrum that you 121 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: see folks arrive at is you have got a system 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: in place wherein you get to create the expectation, You 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: get to create the bar, you get to establish it. 124 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: And then someone doesn't live up to your expectation, and 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: someone doesn't meet the bar that you set for them, 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and instead of looking in the mirror and saying, well, 127 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: my prediction, maybe even my opinion is overrated, you also 128 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: on the back end get to label the people who 129 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: didn't meet your expectations a failure. Now, I personally have 130 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: never chosen to do it that way. I'll have expectations 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: just like anyone else. I just told you five minutes ago, 132 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: I thought this guy. I thought Jim Harbaugh was going 133 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: to overtake Urban Mind in the Big ten. I thought, 134 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to be perfectly clear, they were going to be the 135 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: alpha program on the block in the Big Ten. To 136 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: this point, they haven't done that. That doesn't mean Jim 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's overrated. That means again my opinion sucked. I was 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: wrong about him. That doesn't mean he's overrated. Now Michigan 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: fans have a different take on this. Maybe twofold Michigan 140 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: fans may look at what I just said and listen 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to what I just said and say, yeah, I kind 142 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: of agree with a lot of that now. I'm not 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: necessarily thrilled with where we are, but he's right, some 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: people nationally have been too hard on Harbor or maybe 145 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: you sit there and you say no. I also think 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Harball's very overrated. I think we pay him too much. 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't like what we've gotten. Maybe even I would 148 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: still call it a minority fringe of you, but maybe 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: a minority fringe of you even want to see change there. 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: Whatever the case may be, You're in a separate camp 151 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: for me. I take Michigan fans, I take Michigan supporters, alums, 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: I take all of those folks. They're in a different 153 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: camp entirely. I don't mind, as I've told you, with 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Georgia in the past, Georgia fans got sky high expectations. 155 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: They got a sky high standard of what they hold 156 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Kirby smart in their program too. I've never had a 157 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: problem with it for reasons that I've stated before, and 158 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I'll stay again here as it relates to Michigan. If 159 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: you're doing everything they're asking you to do, if you're 160 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: writing your check every year, if you're selling out the 161 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Big House every Saturday, if you're attending every event, if 162 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: you are fully calibrating the various financial pipelines that need 163 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: to be calibrated in order for Michigan to operate at 164 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: the level they do. Then why not have sky sky 165 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: high expectation, Like, if you're giving everything that they're asking 166 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: you to give, why not expect a big time return 167 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: on your investment. You have what's best for Michigan at 168 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: the forefront of your mentality though, and your concern. That's 169 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: where your heart is. People who are making predictions, who 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: work for major networks, they couldn't care less about Michigan 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: really in the grand scheme of things, less they graduated 172 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: from there, or if they work for the Big ten 173 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: network and it greatly behooves them for Michigan to be great. 174 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: Most of these folks want to swoop in, say something, 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: get the try action for a day and a half, 176 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: and swoop out. So those people, when I hear them say, oh, 177 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Jim harboy is overrated according to what Well, really, when 178 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: we dig down deep, he's overrated according to expectations that 179 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I had for him. Well, what if your opinion's overrated 180 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh is just a guy who's improved Michigan 181 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: and may even improve them more with a recent offensive 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: coordinator higher that if we give a little bit of time, 183 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: could take root and end up being a positive addition 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: in ann Arbor. What if that's where we stand right now. 185 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: What if expectations were inflated. I don't know, but that's 186 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the general take, at least in this camp when it 187 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: comes to Jim Harbaugh. Now, I want to shift your 188 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: attention all the way down south, not all the way. 189 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not going to the Gulf Coast necessarily 190 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: are though, we are going to two states which border 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico. College football is 192 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of strange sometimes when it comes to rivalries. You've 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: got the national ones. Now, those are the ones on 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the front page of all the storybooks and the history 195 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: of college football. I don't need to tell anyone, even 196 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: if you're not from the South about the Iron Bowl. Recently, 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Alabama LSU has been a huge rivalry. Georgia Florida is 198 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: really big down here. And I also don't need to 199 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: tell anyone nationally that, Hey, Michigan, Ohio State really big rivalry. 200 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: OU Texas really big rivalry. No one needs to be 201 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: told that. But there are these sort of regional pockets 202 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: that's really what college football is, just a bunch of 203 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: regional pockets. And there are certain games that matter, really, 204 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: really a great deal in those regional pockets that probably 205 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: aren't talked about a whole lot nationally. One of those 206 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: is Alabama versus Georgia. You have seen these teams play 207 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: a few times recently, but by and large they're not 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: regular crossover divisional opponents. They don't reside in the same 209 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: division of the SEC, they don't play regularly last few 210 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: seasons notwithstanding, and it's not talked about as a national rivalry. 211 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you it's a huge deal 212 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: down here. And I had a question or two about 213 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: it in the Lake Kick Extra, an inbox for the podcast, 214 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: and I figure, well, we've got five people asking about this, 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: why don't we just go ahead and talk about it 216 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: on the show. The way I've always described these fan 217 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: bases is is that Eddie Lacy Colin yet is these 218 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: fan bases. Just take Alabama Georgia put in side by side. 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Let's make a big pie chart out of it and 220 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: just split it into quadrants. Because you do not have 221 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: a consensus on either side of the aisle when it 222 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: comes to how people view this quote unquote rivalry. You've 223 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: got Alabama fans who focus on Auburn first and foremost 224 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and really get aggravated when a portion of their fan 225 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: base tends to obsess with Georgia. You've got another portion 226 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: of the Alabama fan base who says, george is a 227 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: lot bigger threat to us in terms of getting to 228 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a national championship than Auburn is, and we really feel 229 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: like they recruit more on par with us, and if 230 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: we take care of our business, we'll beat Auburn. Georgia's 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: the one who has our attention. And then on the 232 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: other side of the Chattahoochee River, you got Georgia fans 233 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: who say, why don't we focus on Florida, Like, why 234 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: don you guys worry about Alabama. They're not even on 235 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: our regular season schedule this year outith standing. And then 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: you got other folks in the state of Georgia and 237 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: in the Georgia fan base who say, hey, man, that's 238 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: the standard there and until we beat them, that matter. 239 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: We've handled Florida. This is the team in our way. 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: There is no consensus even as I talk about this, 241 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Georgia fans and Bama fans argue about this. There are 242 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: sizeable portions of each respective fan base that say, what 243 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: are you so worried about Georgia for? What are you 244 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: so worried about Alabama for? Let me tell you. Having 245 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: grown up on the border of Alabama and Georgia geographically, 246 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: and having gone to middle school, elementary school, high school 247 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: all my life, I have spent sandwiched in the middle 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Georgia hates Alabama for a number of reasons. 249 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: But let me tell you, really what it comes down to. Alabama, 250 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: at least under Nick Saban, has been for the last 251 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: decade plus what Georgia always should have been in the 252 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: mind of a Georgia fan. Georgia fan looks at Bama 253 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: and what they've done under Saban, and they think to themselves, 254 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and they're not wrong, by the way, What is it 255 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: they have that's allowing them to do what they've done 256 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: that we aren't capable of? And the answer is nothing. 257 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Bama fan will retort with, we got more tradition. What 258 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of tradition did Clemson have until they started winning 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: national championships and going to the playoff every year? Very 260 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: very overrated? What it takes is it takes full buy 261 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: in financially and otherwise. It takes full buy in. And 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: Saban walked in Alabama and backhanded a bunch of people 263 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: across the mouth, maybe in some cases literally, but really figuratively. 264 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: He did that, and he took him by the shoulders 265 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: and he woke them up and said, this is what 266 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: we got to do if you want these kinds of results. 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: And Saban got it. Mark Rick did not get that 268 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: at Georgia. Biggest credit to Kirby Smart, as I've said 269 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: a number of times over the last few months, he 270 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: has gotten it at Georgia. So only recently has the 271 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: head coach at Georgia, being Kirby Smart, gotten full buy 272 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: in at his respective outpost to the degree that Nick 273 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Saban has still hadn't beaten Alabama though, So you've got 274 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: that to worry about, and you've got Kirby Smart that 275 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: has forced some change. As for the Alabama side of things, 276 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: there is a perception amongst pretty much the entirety of 277 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the Alabama fan base that there's an arrogance about Alabama 278 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: that is earned. They point, or there's no need to 279 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: point any further than the trophy case. There's an arrogance 280 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: that's earned. And they look over in Athens, Georgia and 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: places elsewhere and they see a very similar arrogance to 282 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the kind they have. They just don't think it's earned. 283 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: They look at their trophy case and they say, there's nine, 284 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: there's eleven, there's twelve, there's fifteen, there's seventeen. We can't 285 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: even fit all these in our hands anymore. And Georgia, 286 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: you have. If not for us, maybe you'd have a lot, 287 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: but right now you have. And so that's part one 288 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: of what aggravates him. But I'll tell you if you 289 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: dive a little bit deeper. You know, Bear Bryant, when 290 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: he was at Alabama used to always say, if the 291 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: University of Florida ever got their act together, they would 292 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: be a terror for the rest of us to deal with. 293 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: He understood the untapped potential of that program. And I 294 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: think now that Florida has long since had the Spurrier 295 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: era and the Mayer era, they've won big down there. 296 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people in college football, in the SEC 297 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and in Alabama circles had looked at Georgia and said, 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, Rick's over there and he's doing a good job. 299 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: But good sometimes is the enemy. Of great. If they 300 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: were to ever get a guy in there that got 301 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: them fully on board to the degree we are here 302 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, they would be a nightmare to deal with. 303 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: And Kirby Smart, I'm not telling you he's Nick Saban 304 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: two point zero. I am telling you he's gotten everybody 305 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: fully on board over there. There are no fourteen people 306 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: sometimes pulling in fourteen different directions. And let's take care 307 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: of the men's putt putt team before we fully invest 308 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: in an extra two bodies for the recruiting staff. Those 309 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: aren't conversations they have at Georgia anymore. So a lot 310 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: of people are threatened by it, even though they haven't 311 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: beaten you yet a lot of people are threatened by it. 312 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: But I want you, if you want to understand the 313 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: vitriol and the hatred, especially from the G towards the A, 314 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: think about it. Take yourself, close your eyes if you 315 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: want to, and put yourself in the shoes of a 316 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldog fan. I'm talking die hard Georgia Bulldog fan. 317 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: You live, sleep, eat, breathe with every snap you know, 318 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: every three star recruit you sign. They don't do that 319 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: so much anymore, much less than five stars, and I 320 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: want you to go back to two thousand and seven eight. 321 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Nick Saban comes into Alabama. Mark Rick's already been at Georgia. 322 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Actually beat yeah, beat Alabama your first year over there 323 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: in tuscal loose. I think that's a game I was 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: at an overtime game. But anyway, you fast forward a 325 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: few years and there Saban wins a championship in nine 326 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: and then you meet them in Atlanta SEC Title game 327 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, and you're flying down the field with not 328 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: much time left, and you get towards the end zone 329 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you run out of time. 330 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: It's just this close right there, there's the play. Colin's 331 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: showing it to you. That is how close Georgia is 332 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to the end zone. When the SEC championship game ends, 333 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Alabama wins, they go on to face a badly outmanned 334 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame team. You are sitting at home knowing full well, 335 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: this right here in Atlanta, GA was the national title game. 336 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: If you win that one, you're probably going to paint 337 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: the walls with Notre Dame's blood in Miami, just like 338 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Alabama did. That's how close Georgia is to a national title. 339 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: You fast forward three years. Alabama's already lost a game 340 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: in the regular season. They're coming into your building, you're favored, 341 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: and they just thrashed them thirty eight to ten. I 342 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: want to say it was pouring down rain. Miserable day. 343 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: If you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, that was about the 344 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: last time you were ever going to take Mark ricks 345 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: odds of winning a national title at Georgia. Seriously, fast 346 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: forward two more years. You've got a new head coach, 347 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: he's in his second year, and he gets you to 348 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. You avenge your loss to Auburn. 349 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: You go to the Rose Bowl. What a scene out 350 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: there in Pasadena semifinal game. You go to overtime, you 351 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: beat the University of Oklahoma, and guess where you're headed. 352 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: You're headed to Atlanta, Georgia for the national championship game 353 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: in your own backyard. And there you are at halftime 354 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: and you're shutting that team out and they put a 355 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: true freshman in a quarterback, and they come back and 356 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: they beat you in overtime in one of the most 357 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: unforeseen manners imaginable. And that's how close you were to 358 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: another national championship. And the very next year in the 359 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: same building, in the SEC championship game, you are owning 360 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: them on the line of scrimmage, and the quarterback that 361 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: came in to beat you the year before gets knocked out, 362 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: and the one that got benched the year before comes in, 363 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: and they come back and beat you again, and you're 364 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: that close to going on to possibly play for another 365 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: national championship. That team right there, for all you know, 366 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: has cost you one, two, three reshots, maybe four, at 367 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: least three at a very very real possibility of winning 368 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: a national championship. You measure yourself against them. You have 369 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: gotten the guy who runs the program in Tuscal Loose's 370 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: old defensive coordinator as your man. He's from Bainbridge, Georgia. 371 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: He has recruited lights out, he's out recruited Alabama in 372 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: a couple of cycles. And yet you keep on coming 373 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: up against a brick wall and it looks like it cracks, 374 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: but you just bounce off of it. You've got to 375 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: me a Tier one program in the University of Georgia. 376 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: People have argued with me on that because they haven't 377 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: won a championship, But I don't view when I'm tiering 378 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: teams I'm not doing it by trophy case. I'm doing 379 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: it at what level are they operating at currently? And 380 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: that program in Athens, Georgia has got a loaded roster. 381 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: They are a powerhouse program. They just exist in the 382 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: same era. They've existed in the same stretch where the 383 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: greatest dynasty in the history college football has How would 384 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: less Miles be remembered? How would LSU have been remembered 385 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: pre Edwor's run differently if they didn't exist. How would 386 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Mark Richt, for that matter, have been remembered if he 387 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to compete in the same era that Nick 388 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Saban was at Alabama. But the bottom line is he does. 389 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: And that brings me back, by the way to twenty seventeen. 390 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I thought, for all the good that the College Football 391 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: Playoff has done for us when you're talking about the 392 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: flavor of this Georgia Alabama rivalry, the College Football Playoff 393 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: robbed us in twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen. If you had 394 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: forgotten how it shook out, Yeah, you know the game, Yeah, 395 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: you probably even remember the semi finals. I was in 396 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans for Alabama Clemson. That was pretty easy, relatively speaking, 397 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: an easy win for Alabama and it was a classic 398 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl Georgia, Oklahoma, and you set up 399 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: this titanic showdown, at least for those of us in 400 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: the South, Alabama versus Georgia. But what you probably don't 401 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: remember is all the build up, because there was none, 402 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: because the game took place seven days later, and it 403 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: was one that deserved such a better and stretched out 404 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: build up. I remember, you know, I used to watch 405 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: pro wrestling a lot, and when you're talking promotion, that 406 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: is the world that pro wrestling exists in. It's all 407 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: about promotion. One of my favorite main event fights or matches, 408 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: if you will, of any era was Steve Austin versus 409 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: The Rock at wrestle Mania seventeen, two thousand and one. 410 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: It was in the Astrodome in Houston, and the build 411 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: up was months and months in advance, and they promoted 412 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: it perfectly. I have never seen a more perfectly put 413 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: together build up to a big money, main event level match, 414 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: and so that was very well done. That's the way 415 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: this kind of game should be treated. But instead it 416 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: had six days once you get back home, and so 417 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: the build up should have been so much more. I 418 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself Okay, we just had Alabama over Clemson. 419 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: Remember Clemson had beaten Alabama in the championship game the 420 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: year before, so there had been a year long build 421 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: up to that. Bama gets over Clemson, Georgia in the 422 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: playoff for the first time, they get over Oklahoma, and 423 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: you want to decompress, and I'm all I'm doing is 424 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: going and sitting in a press box. You're standing on 425 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: a side. I remember getting home from New Orleans thinking, 426 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: oh man, this next game six days away. I'd love 427 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: to do a week of reaction for what we just 428 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: saw and then another week's build up. And Nope, didn't 429 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: have it that way. So that's the only thing that 430 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I didn't like about twenty seventeen. I also thought it 431 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: was just trash to expect Georgia to go all the 432 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: way to the West Coast, playing overtime, emotionally draining game 433 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna come right back and play a national 434 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: title game, biggest game in your program's history, and a 435 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: generation or two six days later, I digress week three. 436 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: This year, this game happens, don't know if it's going 437 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: to be on schedule, don't know how many people are 438 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: going to be in the stands, but it is currently 439 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: slated to take place in week three, So just keep 440 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: this in the back of your mind as the season 441 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: as scheduled slowly but steadily approaches. Speaking of the season, 442 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: speaking of even the SEC Eastern Division, have you noticed something. 443 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: I picked up a couple of magazines the other day 444 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: and I was looking at predictions, and I was looking 445 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: at unit rankings, and a lot of this stuff, to me, 446 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: is more entertainment than information, simply because you know I've 447 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: told you many times I don't think there's skill in 448 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: predicting a season a whole lot to begin with, but 449 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: especially as I sit here before, we haven't had a 450 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: spring and won't have a spring before we had any 451 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of feedback from camps and whatnot. I mean, how 452 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: is anyone predicting anything? But I digress. I understand why 453 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: it's done. So I'm reading some of these magazines. I 454 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: found something funny. Predict what you want to predict. I 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: just want to look at the reason. I want to 456 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: look at the logic behind it. If I'm gonna predict 457 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: Florida to win the SEC East, you better believe I'm 458 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: not going to win the same magazine and tell you 459 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I think George has got the better offensive line. I 460 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: think George's got the better defensive line. I think George 461 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: has got the better quarterback. But I'm gonna still predict 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Florida to win the division. It make it make sense anyway. 463 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: Consequences of success are something that we talk about on 464 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: this show a lot. Dan Mullen and Florida could be 465 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: ready to deal with some of those consequences of success. 466 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Here's one of the consequences. If you've been seven and 467 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: five for where you can go into a season and 468 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: lose a game to your biggest rival, but if you 469 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: still go to a New Year's six game, that's a 470 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: big deal. Florida's done that two years in a row. 471 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Now they've had really good years. There's no criticize in Florida. 472 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: They've had really good years. Now you get the consequence 473 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: good enough is no longer enough. I'm over on the 474 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Swamp twenty four to seven message board today, that's the 475 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: Florida branch of twenty four seven supports dot Com, and 476 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: I was asking some of the folks over there. I'll 477 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: get to their answers in a second. I was saying, Hey, 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: I know what your expectation is likely know your expectation 479 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: this year. But if Florida doesn't achieve that, what do 480 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: you think. See, here's the good news for Florida right now. 481 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: The good news, and there's a lot of it. The 482 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: good news is Mullins and year three. So you know, 483 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: you take your thumb as a head coach and you 484 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: press it against your program. Well, year three you can 485 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: pull the thumb away. I mean, your fingerprint is firmly 486 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: entrenched on the program, for better or for worse. It 487 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: reflects you as a head coach. So if you believe 488 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: in Dan Mumen, that's very good news. You know you've 489 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: got Kyle Traskett uarterback. In fact, it's just nice to 490 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna have at quarterback, period, much less 491 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: knowing you've got a very skilled and now veteran option 492 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. So you've got certainty there. You've got stability 493 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: along your coaching staff. Your schedule is very favorable this year, 494 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: as favorable as it can get. In the sec everything's 495 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: been geared towards twenty twenty. Everything and it's like if 496 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: you're at a restaurant, you keep getting appetizers and oh, 497 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: that one was good, and that one was really good, 498 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: but eventually you're ready for the main course. Twenty twenty 499 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: is the main course for Florida, and if twenty twenty 500 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: brings out another appetizer for them, they are not going 501 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: to be happy at all. So, as I told you, 502 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: I go over to Swamp two four seven today and 503 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: I just ask kind of a version of it's all 504 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: well and good if Florida wins the East. If they don't, 505 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: you go from skyha expectation to losing the East again 506 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: presumably to Georgia. And if it's not due to catastrophic injury, 507 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: like if Kyle Trask and five other starters don't go 508 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: down and you just lose the division straight up, what 509 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: is your reaction? So I got a couple of reactions 510 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: here Gator fanatic twenty four to seven, which sounds almost 511 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: like a corporate Florida fan. I'm not mad at it. Though. 512 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: The expectation is to win the East this year. Anything 513 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: less is a failure. We have elite depth at quarterback, 514 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: basically two starting caliber guys experienced o line good talent 515 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: at the skill positions, probably the most veteran secondary we've 516 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: had since much Jamp. In my opinion, if Mullen can't 517 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: beat Georgia, and when the East this year, my confidence 518 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: that he ever does it will be slim to none. 519 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I want you to think about what he just said. 520 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: I think that's what the majority of Florida fans feel like. 521 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: I believe that's probably very close to being in line 522 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: with what I think about Florida. I'm not ready to 523 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: give you a prediction on the East. I have no clue. 524 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: You might as well throw a dart against a board 525 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: right now in lieu of getting my prediction. But I 526 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: will tell you this, there's immense pressure on Dan Mullen 527 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to major programs. You may very well 528 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: be accurate in saying there is no power five head 529 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: coach of note out there at a program expected to 530 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: contend that has more pressure on his shoulders than Dan 531 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: Mullen this year. Because that what I just read from 532 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the poster there. That is the collective attitude, and it's 533 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: my attitude towards Florida too. If not now, then when 534 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about closing the gap, everyone's talking about what 535 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: it's going to take to beat Georgia, and then what 536 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: it's going to take to recruit closer to being on 537 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: par with them, and the answer is usually won't beat them. 538 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: Show recruits you can beat them. That does a lot 539 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: to convince guys to go to Gainesville instead of Athens. 540 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: But quarterback is there offensive You look at the offensive coordinator. 541 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. This is not just in 542 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a vacuum. You got all the positives I just told 543 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: you for Florida, but think about what's happening in conjunction 544 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: with all this at Georgia with the quarterback position. They 545 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: got confidence in Jamie Newman. They don't really know what 546 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: they have. He's not a proven commodity. They're new offensive coordinator. 547 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: You lose spring, They've got a tougher schedule than you do. 548 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Their two cross division opponents are at Alabama. In Florida, 549 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: you got LSU at home, and you got at Ole Miss. 550 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: There are scenarios where you could lose to Georgia and 551 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: still win the East. A lot of you told me 552 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: that would be bittersweet, but sweet. Nonetheless, people just don't appreciate. 553 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks don't appreciate a lot 554 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: of folks really don't appreciate how thin the margin is 555 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: here and how a few games and really a few 556 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: drives in a few games are going to be the 557 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: difference in Dan Mullen being unequivocally called the top head 558 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: coach in the SEC East versus people saying it's time 559 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: to start thinking about the long term future here, because 560 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: if he couldn't have gotten it done this year, when 561 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: is he ever going to get it done? That is 562 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: the high wire act that you have to perform when 563 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: you've gotten to this altitude yet, when you're operating this 564 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: altitude but you haven't won a title yet, this is 565 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: where you find yourself. Now. Logic would tell you if 566 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: you're just a cricket fan and you know nothing about football, 567 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: and I were to tell you, okay, on one hand, 568 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: everyone believes in this dude so jacked about this year 569 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of people think he's gonna win. But 570 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, they're gonna say, secre it, let's go 571 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: to someone else. Cricket fan would say that's stupid. However, 572 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: cricket fans talk. They may be right, but hey, you 573 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: fully invested in your program too. Fan investment is a plus. 574 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: You won an a plus return on the investment. That's 575 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: totally fair. We led this show off tonight talking about Michigan. 576 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: I think there is a lot of similarity to where 577 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Florida's program is right now as we sit here in 578 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, going into the twenty twenty season, as Michigan 579 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: was going into that twenty what was it sixteen season, 580 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: there was a lot of momentum. There were a lot 581 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: of believers, and there were a lot of people who 582 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: had that game against Ohio State circled and they go 583 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: into overtime. I remember it as vividly as it happened. Yesterday. 584 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the press box at Bryant Denny Stadium. 585 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Iron Bowl has already started. I'm watching this laptop computer screen, 586 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: and I think that that is not a first down, 587 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: But yet they call it a first down, and Ohio 588 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: State goes on to win the game, and Michigan really 589 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: never the same that and a lot of people in retrospect, 590 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't say it at the time, but a 591 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: lot of people in retrospect have now looked back on 592 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: that game and they've said that was the line of demarcation. 593 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: If he would have won that game. Colin and I 594 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: were just talking about this before the show. If Harbaugh 595 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: wins that game, if Michigan wins that game, and they 596 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: go on to win the division that year and probably 597 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: the conference. They're a playoff team, who knows what they 598 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: do in the playoff. The point is, the history books 599 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: looked totally different, and it was that close. It was 600 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 1: quite literally, I'm holding up a piece of paper. It 601 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: was that thin. The margin was that thin between Harbaugh 602 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: being thought of as a guy who has overtaken the 603 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: big ten versus a guy who cannot get it done 604 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: in the big game against the big rival and he 605 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: chokes and we're never going to make the playoff. That's 606 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: this altitude. You want to operate at an eight and 607 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: five altitude, coming close and making a nice bowl game, 608 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get confetti raining down on you. But if 609 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you want to operate at the tier one, big boy altitude, 610 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: you got tier one big boy consequence is when you 611 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: don't get it done. And that is why, for Dan 612 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Mullen's sake, I sure do hope these preview magazines are right, 613 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: and I sure do hope all these number one projections 614 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: come to pass, because if they don't, you won't have 615 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: to worry about anyone in the media crucifying him. You're 616 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about a lot of Florida fans 617 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: doing a long, hard look at they're head man and 618 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: saying if we couldn't get it done in twenty twenty, 619 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean no offense, but when are we ever gonna 620 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: get it done? Turf C, by the way, was another 621 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: poster on the Swamp twenty four to seven board today. 622 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: He kind of flipped it. This is brilliant, this is 623 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: I told Turf, I think you run a talk show somewhere. 624 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: He said. I think it'd be interesting to flip the 625 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: question and ask this, if this is not the year 626 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: Georgia wins it all, then when is Georgia gonna win 627 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: a national championship? If Georgia loses to US this year, 628 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: does that change everyone's perception of Kirby. I think the 629 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: narrative of Kirby being an overrated coach would be pretty loud. 630 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: If we beat them this year and they don't make 631 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: it to the playoff, my friend, you're probably dead on 632 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: the money, accurate. I just don't think that that is 633 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: tonight's show because I was only prepared to talk about Florida. 634 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: That is a good point, though he is. He's not wrong, 635 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: all right, Let's get let's get a question here out 636 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: of the way, and a reminder. We get pretty much 637 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: all your questions out of the way on the Late 638 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. I record that on Tuesdays, we release 639 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: it on Wednesday. We are approaching I think over two 640 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: hundred five star reviews on the Late Kick podcast. I 641 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: think that's an Apple feature. Only a lot of you 642 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: have iPhones, though, so if you haven't already, give us 643 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: one of those five star reviews. The way the best 644 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: way to submit a question is in a written review 645 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: in the podcast review section. You can also hit my email, 646 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: which you see on the bottom of the screen here. 647 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: If you're listening on the podcast, it is Joshpait seven 648 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. You can also follow 649 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Latekickjosh. Ryan hit us up with 650 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: this about a month ago, and I've been kicking the 651 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: can down the road and I mean to put it 652 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: in every show and every time something's come up, so 653 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: apologies times five. Ryan. Here's the question tonight. He said 654 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: something is kind of a version of what many people 655 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: have asked. How will this whole COVID nineteen thing and 656 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: the shortened time players have on campus this offseason affect 657 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: coaches who are on the hot seat. Don't know that 658 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people have thought about this yet, but 659 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: it bears watching. Do you think ads will be more 660 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: reluctant to make a move? Secondly, do you think it'll 661 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: affect how much time first year coaches are given to 662 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: try and rebuild? Which first year coach in the SEC 663 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: does COVID hurt the most? Yes, yes, definitively. I've had 664 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: people tell me this, the whole hot seat talk. I've 665 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: been told you might as well table that because AS 666 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: revenues either dry up or get greatly slashed this year. 667 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: In other words, the pool from which you would draw 668 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: buyout money from as that gets slashed this year, no 669 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: one is about to be talking about firing coaching staffs 670 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: and paying those buyouts and bringing another new staff in 671 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: and all of the money that that entails. As for 672 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: the second question, which first year coach in the SEC 673 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: to COVID hurt the most, I don't know if it's 674 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: a first year coach unless you're talking about all assistant 675 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: coaches too. I think George is in a pretty tough spot, 676 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Tough relatively speaking. Nine tenths 677 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: of the conference would gladly trade spots with him. But 678 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: they're not in an easy spot right now at all. 679 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: You know, Alabama always overturns coordinators. Nick Saban picked the 680 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: right year to keep his offensive defenseve coordinators Kirby Smart 681 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: chose to make changes that I think were necessary, and 682 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: he certainly couldn't have known what was coming, but yet 683 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: it came. Todd Monkin came, Jamie Newman came, and then 684 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen came, and your Spring went. And so they're 685 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: dealing with a problem that several other programs are dealing with. 686 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: But George's got expectation that those are the programs, don't. 687 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you some others that are outside of the 688 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: SEC that I don't envy at all, Like Mike Norvell 689 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: at Florida State. Think about how much change is needed there, 690 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: and think of how little time he's been able to 691 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: spend with his players implementing his call cure. Never mind 692 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the actual offense that they're going to run, just that 693 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: culture change that was needed there. Guys like Norvel going 694 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: back to the SEC. You know, how in the world 695 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: is Sam Pittman putting together a winning formula in year 696 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: one for Arkansas? What is Eli Drinkwitz doing at Missouri. 697 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: So many places where you made a move that was 698 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: needed and yet now you But the good news is, 699 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: I think, like you suggested here, Ryan, there are probably 700 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: about as many opportunities to just mulligan twenty twenty a 701 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: college football season as you've ever seen. Here's one other 702 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: thing to think about as we exit tonight. I was 703 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: talking to a position coach at a G five program 704 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: last week, and I've had some conversations with this guy 705 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: back and forth, and think about the perspective here. Now, 706 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: this sounds cutthroat, because it is cutthroat. A lot of 707 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: these up and comers, a lot of these coaches who 708 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: are rising coordinators, position coaches, and head coaches at the 709 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: G five level, They and their families are counting on 710 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: a certain percentage of the Power five coaches being fired 711 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: because that opens positions for them to elevate up into 712 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: the P five level, and as a result, those paychecks 713 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: get bigger and bigger and bigger. And there's a lot 714 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: of concern right now. I know it sounds like a 715 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: first world problem, but I mean, this is the livelihood 716 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: of these folks. There's a lot of concern right now 717 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: that maybe the opportunities that I've been building towards, me 718 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: and my agent have been working towards, they're not going 719 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: to be there, because if the entire sport's going to freeze, 720 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: then that means I freeze here too. Good news. Maybe 721 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: some people up there keep their jobs, but that's good 722 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: news for them, that's bad news for me because I'm 723 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: looking to elevate up there to where they are. And 724 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: now there's something a whole lot more than just merit 725 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: that has entered itself inconveniently so into the equation. All Right, 726 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: that's enough for tonight. Remember the La Kick Extra podcast 727 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: will be released on Wednesday. Get those questions in. We 728 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 1: will be back here same time Thursday night, eight eastern, 729 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: seventh Central. Until then. For director Colin, for Aaron, for Tani, 730 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. This has been the Late Kick. Have 731 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: a great night and a great week. God bless