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Speaker 1: Corey Graves was not on NXT. He also did not
Speaker 1: call the speed match which took place today. There's a
Speaker 1: new Number one Contenders tournament. He's vanished. So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: that went down on NXT last night, because there was
Speaker 1: plenty that went down, and of course tonight is also
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Speaker 1: Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live,
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Speaker 1: illness is that everyone who's gotten this winter, It just sucks, dude.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like physically, I feel fine, Like I've
Speaker 1: gone to the gym every day. It's not like it's
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Speaker 1: which is my moneymaker. I think it's actually RSV is
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Speaker 1: God brutal. So anyway, if I hack and just cough
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Speaker 1: If you guys need to know real details. So I
Speaker 1: think that like I'm on the mend, Like I feel
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Speaker 8: I think I felt bad for like forty eight hours.
Speaker 8: What exactly has been going on in that neck of
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Speaker 1: Dude, everybody here is God this everybody, let's take it
Speaker 1: forever to get over it. If you guys haven't got it,
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Speaker 3: You're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: You're all gonna die, hear me, Dom, even you youngsters,
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, all right. I don't even know
Speaker 1: where to begin today at the beginning, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: not really a lot of news today, Like are we
Speaker 1: really gonna start with Corey Graves at the top, story
Speaker 1: like we're.
Speaker 8: On the podcast. Of course we're gonna start with Corey Graves.
Speaker 8: What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the deal, everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm a slow day.
Speaker 1: Of course, Corey Graves was not on NXT and they
Speaker 1: didn't make a big deal out of it, didn't mention it.
Speaker 1: Corey Graves is the common tat for w w E Speed.
Speaker 1: He did not commentate the Chad Gable Charlie Dempsey match,
Speaker 1: which aired today, So I guess here's here's the here's
Speaker 1: the big question for everybody. Okay, all right, ready for this?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: When did they tape this speed match? Are we supposed
Speaker 1: to believe that he would have done the voiceover like today,
Speaker 1: like he's there at ringside? Right? Don't they always tape
Speaker 1: speed like before Raw or SmackDown or whatever?
Speaker 3: And find out when?
Speaker 1: Yeah, find out, find out when they taped the Charlie
Speaker 1: Dempsey Chad Gable match, which.
Speaker 8: By the way, those are three minute matches, right.
Speaker 1: They're three minute matches.
Speaker 8: I'd like to see that for longer than three minutes,
Speaker 8: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Dude. Hey, listen, me and Tom review WWE Speed. I
Speaker 1: love it because number one, they're like the matches are quick,
Speaker 1: like by the time the whole tournament's over, you can
Speaker 1: watch the whole tournament like fIF teen minutes, but they're
Speaker 1: quick boom boom boom. You know, you have stories you
Speaker 1: can tell with three minute matches. I like it. I
Speaker 1: like WWE Speed and it doesn't intrude into the main roster.
Speaker 8: Taped on I guess that would be Friday. Was that
Speaker 8: January Friday at the Portland Motors.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was taped to SmackDown.
Speaker 8: Okay, Blake Howard did the announcing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're supposed to believe either that a he
Speaker 1: pretty much decided he was done Friday and no showed
Speaker 1: his speed commitment, or he was supposed to tape it
Speaker 1: like yesterday the voiceover, but I don't think they do that.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's there right or or
Speaker 1: because he's no longer on SmackDown he's on NXT. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been doing the voiceover anyway because he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Why why would they fly him all the way to
Speaker 1: SmackDown every week to do speed. Maybe he's just not
Speaker 1: the announcer anymore. But anyway, here's the point, everybody, here's
Speaker 1: the point. Yes, there are people within WWE that believe
Speaker 1: that this is a shoot. Okay. His brother Sam A.
Speaker 1: Donnis claimed on Twitter that this was a shoot. Maybe
Speaker 1: it is. Okay, maybe it is, but I can tell
Speaker 1: you this. You're telling me that this guy got moved
Speaker 1: to NXT last Tuesday, immediately did the booboo face. Made
Speaker 1: it abundantly clear he did not want to be there.
Speaker 1: Either No showed smacked down or did not. We actually
Speaker 1: don't know if he was ever gonna do speed anyway,
Speaker 1: put out an angry tweet on Monday which was he
Speaker 1: was not told to delete, the company didn'tell him to
Speaker 1: get rid of it, said that he would have something
Speaker 1: to say and that we should tune into NXT. And
Speaker 1: then No showed NXT just flew home, telling me that
Speaker 1: this guy did all of that and he's still employed.
Speaker 1: That's what you're telling me. Okay. Maybe that's the case.
Speaker 3: Maybe he was told to go on.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the case. Okay, But in a lot of
Speaker 1: these situations, I like to look at Oukham's razor, what
Speaker 1: is the most likely, what is the simplest explanation for
Speaker 1: all of this? And given that they don't let you
Speaker 1: do this stuff on Twitter, if you do they require
Speaker 1: you to pull it? If you know, show your job,
Speaker 1: act like you hate it. There. I mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of you. I mean, I will give you
Speaker 1: my prediction here on the air. Okay, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you my prediction here on the air. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: Within thirty days, Corey Graves will be back doing something
Speaker 1: for WWE, whether it's commentary or whether it's a match
Speaker 1: with Wade Barrett or the Royal Rumble or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: he will be back doing something for WWE, and the
Speaker 1: official story will be it was a shoot that became
Speaker 1: a work. Okay. So that's my prediction for a month
Speaker 1: from now. If it turns out this is all a
Speaker 1: shoot and he ends up getting fired, then that's fine.
Speaker 1: But that's where I think this is all leading. It
Speaker 1: was a shoot everyone, but now it's a work playing
Speaker 1: off reality. They'll say, could.
Speaker 3: It be a little column in a little column B?
Speaker 8: Since he is being taken off the shows anyway and
Speaker 8: they needed something to do with him and he goes
Speaker 8: down to NXT.
Speaker 3: You get the response that you get. Do you think
Speaker 3: maybe that's.
Speaker 8: Like, okay, well, let's play with this a little bit,
Speaker 8: especially if he does have any thoughts on possibly returning
Speaker 8: to the ring.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: It provides him a reason to have some time off
Speaker 8: in doing something I don't know. I would be upset
Speaker 8: if I was, because he does do a great job.
Speaker 8: And if there is let's just say, this whole thing
Speaker 8: is a shoot. How disappointing is it that you have
Speaker 8: Joe Testator, who's great. You got Pat McAfee who's great,
Speaker 8: But you're telling me that Corey Graves, Jesse Ventura, Bobby Heenan,
Speaker 8: Jerry Lawler, they were all better than Corey Graves in
Speaker 8: that role.
Speaker 3: But Corey Graves is.
Speaker 8: The best person since any of them, and he can
Speaker 8: do something they could never do, which is play by play.
Speaker 8: So you're telling me that there's not a place for
Speaker 8: him in a three man booth alongside Way Barrett. If
Speaker 8: it is actually a shoot at all, it's very disappointing.
Speaker 8: But I can see there being one true aspect of this,
Speaker 8: which is if I'm Corey Graves, maybe I do feel
Speaker 8: a little bit of a way because I do do
Speaker 8: a great job and I have been pushed out because
Speaker 8: this other big name when it comes to Joe Testatur
Speaker 8: has now stepped in and kind of shaken some things up.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I don't think Corey Graves is
Speaker 1: an idiot, and if this is all real, I mean,
Speaker 1: he should know that they switch up the announcers all
Speaker 1: the time. They switch up the ring announcers. For reasons unknown,
Speaker 1: it was very important to switch the Iron SmackDown ring
Speaker 1: announcers when they moved to Netflix. I mean, yes, perhaps
Speaker 1: he was demoted to NXT. Okay, there have been a
Speaker 1: lot of people that have been NXT and back up
Speaker 1: to the main roster and vice versa. It happens all
Speaker 1: the time. There have been wrestlers that have been sent
Speaker 1: down to NXT and they've been brought back to the
Speaker 1: main roster. It happens all the time. So the idea that,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was sent to NXT, my career
Speaker 1: is over. I am a failure and a loser. I
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that those are the thoughts
Speaker 1: going through his mind. If they are, then they are, Hey,
Speaker 1: who am I to say? But this happens all the time.
Speaker 8: I'm a failure and a loser. I don't think he's
Speaker 8: saying that at all.
Speaker 1: I mean him on now, Well, the idea that he
Speaker 1: got sent down there. So now he's like gotta quit
Speaker 1: because like there's no hope to ever be back on
Speaker 1: the main roster or to ever do anything about it.
Speaker 1: Like what are what are you talking about here? This
Speaker 1: happens all the time. So anyway we'll see, Hey got
Speaker 1: himself into the top story on Sling Observer Live on
Speaker 1: a slow news day. Yeah, yes, I chose that. Or
Speaker 1: we're talking about rod Netflix numbers? Good, well, that means
Speaker 1: I got a hole next segment to talk about him. Hey,
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Speaker 8: Are you going to ask him if a person disappears
Speaker 8: in a forest, do they make a sound?
Speaker 1: Hey, I'll ask him anything, ask him that, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they do they do? Yeah. It's if it's if the
Speaker 1: tree falls into forest and there's no one around to
Speaker 1: hear it, it doesn't make a sound because a sound
Speaker 1: is a wave. In order for it to become a sound,
Speaker 1: there needs to be something too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So just the way it works, science science now, also
Speaker 1: science is these Netflix numbers just quick. So they did
Speaker 1: the adding in the week after the raw debut. They
Speaker 1: added an extra extra million people watched after the initial
Speaker 1: two day viewership number. Sure, so five point nine million
Speaker 1: views globally and seventeen point seven million hours viewed. So
Speaker 1: the total view hours are the length of the program
Speaker 1: divided by are the total viewers viewing hours of the
Speaker 1: program divided by the runtime. So this is not just
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen million people watched a second of the show.
Speaker 1: There were seventeen point seven million hours viewed, and you
Speaker 1: divide that by three, and essentially they're saying five point
Speaker 1: nine million people watched on average the entire show. So
Speaker 1: and hey, you know, people can disbelieve this. But as
Speaker 1: Davis pointed out, ever since that raw, Netflix, dude, they
Speaker 1: started selling tickets. In the last week, they started selling
Speaker 1: a lot of tickets. They sold a lot of tickets
Speaker 1: for this past Monday's Raw. They sold a lot And
Speaker 1: there's no reason for it other than Netflix. It's like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people decided that this Monday's Raw
Speaker 1: was very important. In the last week, like they always
Speaker 1: sell some tickets, but like big influx of tickets.
Speaker 8: It is the season though too, you know, and it
Speaker 8: was tough times there towards the end of the last
Speaker 8: year financially for people, so you know, maybe some of
Speaker 8: the spending has opened up a little bit too. I
Speaker 8: think it's a variety of reasons. But the Netflix thing
Speaker 8: certainly doesn't hurt. And five point nine million people worldwide
Speaker 8: if that's what they said within a week watch that show. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess I can believe that.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 8: I mean, look at the numbers that you know, WWE
Speaker 8: what they max out probably what their fandom would be
Speaker 8: watching a show on network TV. You know, what was
Speaker 8: it for SmackDown? You go a little bit over that
Speaker 8: as far as just you know, people watching on Netflix, sure,
Speaker 8: and then go and almost double that, a little bit
Speaker 8: more than double that for worldwide.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 8: It's just, you know, do these numbers really mean anything
Speaker 8: right now? They really don't, you know, individually as the
Speaker 8: weeks go on. But I'm sure we're going to talk
Speaker 8: about them anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say one more thing, because I have more
Speaker 1: exact numbers now somebody who got the numbers directly from Peacock. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peacock reported seven hundred thousand concurrent streams for the Saturday
Speaker 1: Night's main event on NBC, which did one point five
Speaker 1: million on NBC. Concurrent does not mean these were people
Speaker 1: to watch later. Concurrent means as the show was airing live,
Speaker 1: there were seven hundred thousand people streaming on Peacock. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peacock has thirty six million subscribers in the US. MAX
Speaker 1: has fifty two point six million in the US and Canada.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if anything, Max has probably more US subscribers,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's fifty to fifty US and
Speaker 1: Canada population size. So you know, Max has more subscribers
Speaker 1: than Peacock. And if a Saturday Night's main event is
Speaker 1: doing fifty percent concurrent streams, then it is absolutely, in
Speaker 1: no way crazy to think that a Dynamite that does
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty thousand viewers on television is not
Speaker 1: doing another one hundred and fifty maybe two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: on Max concurrent. And plus I'll ask this question, this
Speaker 1: is not this is not scientific, but I'll just ask,
Speaker 1: raise your hand in the chat if you are now
Speaker 1: watching Dynamite on Max. Okay, raise your hand. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see people just going like, I am I am, I am,
Speaker 1: I am okay me, you know here they come. These
Speaker 1: are people that are now watching on Max. They don't
Speaker 1: watch on whatever anymore. Okay, now raise your hand, Raise
Speaker 1: your hand. If you watch Saturday night's main event on Peacock, anybody, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, though I haven't heard a single
Speaker 1: person who was like, I chose Peacock over NBC.
Speaker 3: I did. Actually you did.
Speaker 1: You watched on Peacock.
Speaker 3: Here's the reason why.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
Speaker 8: Was making Dad was doing something I think it was
Speaker 8: making dinner or something like that. And I never said
Speaker 8: an alert. I never said a thing on YouTube TV
Speaker 8: to record it. So by the time I got on there,
Speaker 8: it was like, well, let me just see it on
Speaker 8: Peacock because I know I can go back to the beginning.
Speaker 8: So I actually watched half of the show on Peacock
Speaker 8: and then flip back over to YouTube TV.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: But yeah, actually, but here's the thing with Peacock, and
Speaker 8: for Peacock to subscribers, I'm an Notre Dame football fan.
Speaker 8: They stream on there. I watched some of the Olympics
Speaker 8: they stream on there. One thing that's should be beneficial
Speaker 8: for aw, no matter how many people they get, is
Speaker 8: getting people to regularly stream something on Max, because apparently
Speaker 8: that's one of Max's big problems is people are not
Speaker 8: streaming CNN through Max, they're not watching HBO proper through Max.
Speaker 8: They're still doing it in other ways, and they've wanted
Speaker 8: to get people over to do more of that and
Speaker 8: try to mix things up and integrate it more. So
Speaker 8: anything that they provide is probably going to be again
Speaker 8: looked at as a great thing, no matter if it's
Speaker 8: sixty thousand people or if it's two hundred and sixty
Speaker 8: thousand people, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Actually, we apparently have a fair number of people to
Speaker 1: watch Saturday night's main event on Peacock, so hey whatever.
Speaker 8: But again, you know, we probably have a much as
Speaker 8: far as the people that are watching through Twitch and YouTube.
Speaker 8: They are a lot younger, and they a long time
Speaker 8: ago got out of the cable race, and when they
Speaker 8: were able to, they got kicked out of their parents'
Speaker 8: house and it was time to you know, get their
Speaker 8: own things. You know, if you have Netflix and Max
Speaker 8: and Peacock, odds are you're still spending less than what
Speaker 8: you we would get on you know, through most cable means,
Speaker 8: and you're getting everything that you want to get so
Speaker 8: they're completely used to it. And they also again the
Speaker 8: technology when it comes to TVs and all that sort
Speaker 8: of stuff. I know a lot of people who have
Speaker 8: smart TVs who are older who don't utilize them at all.
Speaker 8: They got a cable box hooked up and they don't
Speaker 8: mess with the app aspect of that at all.
Speaker 7: All.
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Speaker 1: the guilt Trip one that it looks like the Windy's logo. Yes,
Speaker 1: I got more comments on that than anything. Although actually
Speaker 1: I did get a couple of comments on minus five stars.
Speaker 1: Because the most famous minus five stars shirt is the
Speaker 1: one that's like the John Cena's shirt red white and blue,
Speaker 1: but it says minus five stars. So at some point
Speaker 1: it was like between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, when
Speaker 1: Trump was in office, I was wearing that shirt and
Speaker 1: some guy the Trump shirt looked at it and goes
Speaker 1: minus five stars. I was like, oh, is that how
Speaker 1: you interpreted that? Okay, maybe that's why so many people
Speaker 1: purchased it. Many interpretations. So tonight is dynamite and we
Speaker 1: got the women's Gauntlet. The winner will get a shot
Speaker 1: at Mariah May's title. It's grand Slam in Australia.
Speaker 3: I'm going with Prazzo.
Speaker 1: You know they gotta do like I know that, like
Speaker 1: Tony is over and everything like that, and they want
Speaker 1: to get her as much TV time, but they should
Speaker 1: do a deal where like women keep coming out and
Speaker 1: it's not Tony because the match can end at any time.
Speaker 1: So there's eleven women in there and Tony still isn't out.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, it could end before she
Speaker 1: even gets to the ring back in a moment because
Speaker 1: of her life.
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Speaker 2: and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: God, even not one thing, it's another. Just saw this article.
Speaker 1: Connor mcgreor accutes of trying to rape woman in VIP
Speaker 1: bathroom as security stopped friend from entering.
Speaker 3: Stall to help Jesus.
Speaker 1: Lawsuit filed on Tuesday, that is yesterday. So this is
Speaker 1: this is a new lawsuit took place after Miami Heat's
Speaker 1: NBA Finals game against Denver Nuggets June ninth. So last year,
Speaker 1: forty nine year old who works on Wall Street filed
Speaker 1: a criminal sexual assault allegation. So there you go. Another
Speaker 1: one filed against Connor. So that means tonight on Observer Radio,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about Connor. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: things to have to do is have to talk about ugh.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 8: You know, it's getting to the point of being like,
Speaker 8: I don't know how true. Any of this is just
Speaker 8: a reprehensible person. But if it's again for a guy
Speaker 8: that says none of this stuff is true, if I
Speaker 8: kept getting accused of all this stuff, I probably stopped
Speaker 8: going out. You keep putting yourself in these positions, and
Speaker 8: unfortunately it seems as if again a lot of this
Speaker 8: seems to be I don't know if it's true or not.
Speaker 8: I don't want to say that, but obviously he lost
Speaker 8: a lot of sponsors and everything that went down after
Speaker 8: the last ruling, and it just there's obviously a bad
Speaker 8: pattern here when it comes to him just being in
Speaker 8: the general public and around to the opposite sex.
Speaker 1: All right, So before we get at XT, the rest
Speaker 1: of Maximum Cards Tonight has Hurt Syndicate versus Marco Briscoe
Speaker 1: and Private Party, Yes MVP in the ring John Moxley
Speaker 1: Powerhouse Hobbs for the eight of the World title. I
Speaker 1: can't even talk about it. I can't. I know, I
Speaker 1: want to think about it.
Speaker 3: Belt him up, Belt him up.
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about it for days now. It's
Speaker 1: D Day Kenny Omega versus Brain Cage, Christian Cage versus
Speaker 1: Hook and we will hear from Ricochet. It's actually a
Speaker 1: pretty stacked show, to be honest, a big show.
Speaker 8: Power House Hobbs, he wins the title, he gets beaten
Speaker 8: down by the death writers. Afterwards, Christian Cage comes out,
Speaker 8: tries to cash in, and guess what happens, power House
Speaker 8: Hobbs murders him too and gets that out of the way,
Speaker 8: so we don't have to deal with Christian having a title.
Speaker 1: No, they're doing something with Christian. I actually, I actually
Speaker 1: don't think it's just gonna be Copeland costing him. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna win, but I think I
Speaker 1: think they're they're doing something.
Speaker 8: Is it gonna be that old classic I can't imagine, though,
Speaker 8: WWF Attitude era, where like seventeen parts of the Clothes
Speaker 8: happens and at the very end it's stone cold Steve
Speaker 8: Austin played by Cope, who ends up doing the thing
Speaker 8: and then leads to Hobbs getting the victory. You think
Speaker 8: they go all out and do something like that.
Speaker 3: You could.
Speaker 1: What I expect to happen tonight is Moxley beats him.
Speaker 1: My point is I don't want the obvious to happen.
Speaker 8: You really think that's gonna happen. It's gonna beat him Clean.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Clean, but I think that he's
Speaker 1: gonna beat him, So.
Speaker 8: Not even Hobbs bads.
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling Tony's gonna do what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do stupid. Even though I begged, I have begged,
Speaker 1: I've groveled on air.
Speaker 8: Can we get him on the phone right now, Unlike.
Speaker 3: I want to talk to him now.
Speaker 1: I gotta say something about NST that I don't know
Speaker 1: if we'll review the entire show, but time there is
Speaker 1: a person on this show that has a bigger ceiling
Speaker 1: than brawn breaker coming from developmental. We all know who
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, don't we, Jasmine Nick, would you stop
Speaker 1: this freakin' Oba Femi fantastic dude? Oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: he has size, and he actually has deceptive size because
Speaker 1: he looks even bigger than he really is. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen one bad match from this guy, maybe since like
Speaker 1: when he very first had that breakout tournament. Like for
Speaker 1: the Breakout Tournament, I thought that he was not the
Speaker 1: most impressive guy in the tournament. I wouldn't say it
Speaker 1: was bad, It was like fine, you know, he had
Speaker 1: a lot of potential. But in the last year, show
Speaker 1: me one bad Obafemi match. Every match he's in, he
Speaker 1: gets over. It doesn't matter if it's like a guy
Speaker 1: from the main roster, some developmental dude, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: He gets over every match. This guy, when he does
Speaker 1: his promos, he has like he has an accent, he
Speaker 1: has a gravity about what he says, like if you
Speaker 1: actually listen to the words, Like if you write down
Speaker 1: the words and then you like had Mike Simperviti read it,
Speaker 1: people would be like, what in God's name? What a
Speaker 1: horrible promo. But like when Oba Femi says it, no,
Speaker 1: it's true. But when Obafemi says it, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to use those words, fine, Like I
Speaker 1: buy it from Oba Femi.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say who at the end.
Speaker 1: I buy it who. He cut a great promo and
Speaker 1: he just comes off as like like he's a man
Speaker 1: in charge. You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: I believe what I believe in me, it's my destiny.
Speaker 8: I believe what I say and I say what I believe.
Speaker 1: And he has he has confidence in everything he says.
Speaker 1: You don't doubt a word he says. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like some guy doing some goofy promo. It sounds like
Speaker 1: a confident champion in the.
Speaker 8: Ring too, which exudes out of that along with the
Speaker 8: charisma that he has.
Speaker 1: And my favorite part of this entire episode of NXT,
Speaker 1: which I cannot do justice to here. I just can't. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they're backstage and they do one of those segments
Speaker 1: where you know, two people do something and then the
Speaker 1: camera film's over and there's two other people doing something
Speaker 1: and then it pans over, so they're backstage. Oba Femi
Speaker 1: is just walking around like the ruler and he gets
Speaker 1: stopped by Dion Lennox. Okay, guys know Dion Lennox. He's
Speaker 1: the bookworm, but his gimmick is like Clark Kenny takes
Speaker 1: off the glass and then he's like Superman and he's
Speaker 1: like he's like everything that they want. You know, He's like,
Speaker 1: I got a great physique and everything needs tall. But
Speaker 1: like he's he's also one of those guys where you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen these guys come and go Sean Staysiac for example,
Speaker 1: Like you look at the guy and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: it's everything they want, but he never made it. And
Speaker 1: I think it could be that way like Dion. So far,
Speaker 1: I don't see this guy as like he's got a
Speaker 1: waste to go. But anyway, this Dion Lennox walks up
Speaker 1: to Oba Fem and he stops him and he says,
Speaker 1: Oba can congratulations on winning that title. One day, he says,
Speaker 1: I'll be challenging you for that title. And Oba Femi
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. He just stops. He looks at this
Speaker 1: bookworm and like his eyes a little bit like wide,
Speaker 1: and then he keeps walking like that was the most
Speaker 1: preposterous thing that's ever happened to me on this show.
Speaker 1: I watched that over and over. I can't even do
Speaker 1: like what he did. He has his face it's like
Speaker 1: he's just astonished that this guy, like he can't even
Speaker 1: believe what he just heard. But he doesn't overdo it.
Speaker 1: He didn't do like the oh big eye rolled or everything.
Speaker 1: It's just enough for you to realize there is absolutely
Speaker 1: no chance you will ever challenge me for this title,
Speaker 1: and if you do, I will kill you. And he
Speaker 1: walks off. I died. This guy is the greatest. Do
Speaker 1: you understand this? Oba Femie is the greatest? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, some like horrendous thing would have to
Speaker 1: occur for this guy not to be in a WrestleMania
Speaker 1: main event, and god only knows how long.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a start.
Speaker 1: He is the best.
Speaker 8: He is ron Breaker. And they have so many people
Speaker 8: Trick Williams, Roxanne Perez in their future, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, Fallon Henley.
Speaker 8: They're just name after name and this has been the
Speaker 8: biggest benefit of the NIL deal has been somebody like
Speaker 8: Obafemi that has come along and that you're able to
Speaker 8: catch lightning with this fast and have the ability because
Speaker 8: of NXT to put him on a stage, not the
Speaker 8: main stage yet, but carefully craft him in the same
Speaker 8: way that they did with Solo Sokoa. Remember solos CoA
Speaker 8: didn't have a bunch of matches on there. They knew
Speaker 8: what they had, they knew what they wanted going forward,
Speaker 8: and they were going to be sure to do that.
Speaker 8: And the great part about this era is once they
Speaker 8: figure out what you are and how they craft you,
Speaker 8: that's pretty much what you are. The thought of him
Speaker 8: going up to the main roster and having to suffer
Speaker 8: through what Bronson Reid did under Vince McMahon or something
Speaker 8: like that, it's not gonna happen when he comes up.
Speaker 8: It's just like Braun and some of these other folks,
Speaker 8: where Obafemi is gonna be Oba Femi. And again seeing
Speaker 8: him on the main roster doing what he's doing now,
Speaker 8: it's an easy it's an easy transition over to see
Speaker 8: him be a star.
Speaker 1: If I talked about Avi Ava's character sucks as a
Speaker 1: GM it's not very good.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: So last week she booked, because she's absolutely completely incompetent
Speaker 1: in her job, she booked a number one contenders match
Speaker 1: but also a six person involving the champion. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Stephanie mckure wins the number one contenders match. When the
Speaker 1: match ends, she's the number one contender. But in the
Speaker 1: other match, this idiot GM booked somebody pins the champion.
Speaker 1: Shatzi pins Fallon. So what does the GM do, Well,
Speaker 1: you're no longer than number one contender even though you
Speaker 1: won a number one contender's match on the show. You
Speaker 1: must defend your number one contendership against Shatzi because she
Speaker 1: pinned the champion. So they do the match, and of
Speaker 1: course the heels interfere Fallon hit Stephanie and Shatzi pins her.
Speaker 1: So Stephanie lost her number one contendership. So what's ABA
Speaker 1: gonna say next week? The referee's decision is final, even
Speaker 1: though when Lexus King won the Heritage Cup, she said
Speaker 1: the referee's decision wasn't final and she gave the cup back.
Speaker 1: She is the worst, she's in storyline, the worst GM
Speaker 1: I've ever ever experienced in this business. So Stephanie got screwed. Now,
Speaker 1: what was good was in a match that way exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1: Jakara and Lash beat Alba and Eila Don. This was
Speaker 1: a flat out, shockingly good match. I was just watching
Speaker 1: it waiting for some tragedy to occur and it didn't.
Speaker 1: And uh, well, because Lash and Jakara are hidd and Miss,
Speaker 1: They've had very good matches. I've also seen them have
Speaker 1: matches against people and it's like, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: thing fell apart. This was very good. Lash and Jakara won.
Speaker 1: They're getting a shot at the women's tag team titles.
Speaker 3: No complaints.
Speaker 1: Does anyone remember who the women's tag team champions are?
Speaker 1: Three two one?
Speaker 3: No Caden and Katana. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's see if anyone in the chat knows off the
Speaker 1: top of their head.
Speaker 8: Somebody who beat Caden, Naomi and Bianca the figure Oh
Speaker 8: that's right with Jade.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 8: After Jade got hurt, Bianca slid in there. I forgot
Speaker 8: about that. They don't really defend those much, do they
Speaker 8: can't remember? No, But you know what, Metaphor and them
Speaker 8: were beefing a while ago, and to see them go
Speaker 8: back to that match, I'm okay with it. I'm just
Speaker 8: wondering when Noam Dar is coming back because no Am
Speaker 8: Dar and who was at Oromensa. I can't see Noam
Speaker 8: Dar being a star on the main roster. And obviously
Speaker 8: they want Jakar Jackson maybe the be the number one
Speaker 8: out of that foursome to make it onto the main roster.
Speaker 8: But Noam Dar as a personality in him and a
Speaker 8: team with Oromensa again with their tag team division wouldn't
Speaker 8: be the worst things in the world to see them
Speaker 8: be an antagonist to the Viking writers or whoever.
Speaker 1: And we also had a tag team title match. Axiem
Speaker 1: and Nathan Fraser retained their titles against OTM. I was
Speaker 1: very happy to see that they're the best team in
Speaker 1: the world. Yes, and they will probably be facing di
Speaker 1: Wise soon, so that was nice. It was it turned
Speaker 1: into a real good match. Early on, it was just
Speaker 1: kind of there, man, they are so good. By ANSWER's match,
Speaker 1: I was like, holy smokes, that was the best match
Speaker 1: OTM that has ever had, and that was very good.
Speaker 8: Never break them up, I know, no, they will, just
Speaker 8: don't do it. It'll break them up.
Speaker 1: Maybe not actually.
Speaker 8: Keep them together and put them on the main roster.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's such a They're the type of team
Speaker 8: where everybody is expecting them to break up at any
Speaker 8: moment anyway, because they are such different people in the
Speaker 8: way that Fraser plays his character.
Speaker 3: But that's what also makes them great.
Speaker 1: There's so many teams on the main roster, it would
Speaker 1: be absolute madness to break them up and then bring
Speaker 1: them up individually to the main roster. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1: So back in a moment with more Observer Live.
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