WEBVTT - Maximum Carnage Preview and NXT 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.800 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.680 By from San Francisco. I'm a Sports Byline broadcasting network. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.040 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.279 Brian Alvarez and Mike Semper vv. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:24.360 Are you ready? 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:25.520 Are you ready? 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:26.720 Let's get it all? 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.599 How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on or Wrestling 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.320 Observer Live. 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Eight hundred three 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.640 six one three four nine one eight hundred three six 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.360 one three four nine one eight hundred three six one 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.880 three four ninety one. That's eight hundred three six one 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:02.120 thirty four ninety one. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.120 You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.839 and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.960 Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:22.200 Mike simbervv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Whatever this horrible 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:28.400 illness is that everyone who's gotten this winter, It just sucks, dude. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.480 I actually feel like physically, I feel fine, Like I've 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.239 gone to the gym every day. It's not like it's 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.280 you know, anything like that. But I cannot get this 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.360 gunk out of my throat and chest. It's affecting my voice, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:47.560 which is my moneymaker. I think it's actually RSV is 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.800 what I think it is, really, Yeah, because one of 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.440 the kids over, one of the cousins over Christmas at RSV. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:59.559 God brutal. So anyway, if I hack and just cough 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.560 up un I apologize, although it's not like green anymore. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.800 If you guys need to know real details. So I 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.200 think that like I'm on the mend, Like I feel 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.679 like I'm on the mend, but God just won't go away. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.480 I think I felt bad for like forty eight hours. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.960 What exactly has been going on in that neck of 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:18.640 the woods where you have? 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.240 Dude, everybody here is God this everybody, let's take it 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.120 forever to get over it. If you guys haven't got it, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.040 you're all gonna get it. So work on your immune system. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:28.040 You're gonna get it. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.560 You're all gonna die, hear me, Dom, even you youngsters, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.080 take care of yourself, all right. I don't even know 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.840 where to begin today at the beginning, I mean, there's 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.760 not really a lot of news today, Like are we 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.240 really gonna start with Corey Graves at the top, story 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:45.720 like we're. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.480 On the podcast. Of course we're gonna start with Corey Graves. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:49.160 What's wrong with you? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.200 Well, here's the deal, everybody. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:51.760 I'm a slow day. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.000 Of course, Corey Graves was not on NXT and they 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.000 didn't make a big deal out of it, didn't mention it. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.440 Corey Graves is the common tat for w w E Speed. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:08.960 He did not commentate the Chad Gable Charlie Dempsey match, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:13.720 which aired today, So I guess here's here's the here's 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.240 the big question for everybody. Okay, all right, ready for this? 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.200 Yes? 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:25.520 When did they tape this speed match? Are we supposed 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.760 to believe that he would have done the voiceover like today, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.360 like he's there at ringside? Right? Don't they always tape 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.959 speed like before Raw or SmackDown or whatever? 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:36.480 And find out when? 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.400 Yeah, find out, find out when they taped the Charlie 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.600 Dempsey Chad Gable match, which. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.079 By the way, those are three minute matches, right. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.640 They're three minute matches. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.360 I'd like to see that for longer than three minutes, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:49.079 that's for sure. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.720 Dude. Hey, listen, me and Tom review WWE Speed. I 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.120 love it because number one, they're like the matches are quick, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.040 like by the time the whole tournament's over, you can 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.640 watch the whole tournament like fIF teen minutes, but they're 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.840 quick boom boom boom. You know, you have stories you 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.800 can tell with three minute matches. I like it. I 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:11.360 like WWE Speed and it doesn't intrude into the main roster. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.960 Taped on I guess that would be Friday. Was that 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.559 January Friday at the Portland Motors. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.880 Okay, so it was taped to SmackDown. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.840 Okay, Blake Howard did the announcing. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.960 Okay, so we're supposed to believe either that a he 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.440 pretty much decided he was done Friday and no showed 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.720 his speed commitment, or he was supposed to tape it 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.000 like yesterday the voiceover, but I don't think they do that. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.040 I think he's I think he's there right or or 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.800 because he's no longer on SmackDown he's on NXT. He 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.800 wouldn't have been doing the voiceover anyway because he wouldn't. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.360 Why why would they fly him all the way to 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.440 SmackDown every week to do speed. Maybe he's just not 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.960 the announcer anymore. But anyway, here's the point, everybody, here's 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:06.360 the point. Yes, there are people within WWE that believe 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.079 that this is a shoot. Okay. His brother Sam A. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:18.360 Donnis claimed on Twitter that this was a shoot. Maybe 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:23.760 it is. Okay, maybe it is, but I can tell 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.920 you this. You're telling me that this guy got moved 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:35.280 to NXT last Tuesday, immediately did the booboo face. Made 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.680 it abundantly clear he did not want to be there. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.280 Either No showed smacked down or did not. We actually 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.440 don't know if he was ever gonna do speed anyway, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:48.679 put out an angry tweet on Monday which was he 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.559 was not told to delete, the company didn'tell him to 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.720 get rid of it, said that he would have something 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.640 to say and that we should tune into NXT. And 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:00.640 then No showed NXT just flew home, telling me that 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.160 this guy did all of that and he's still employed. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.720 That's what you're telling me. Okay. Maybe that's the case. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.240 Maybe he was told to go on. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.400 Maybe that's the case. Okay, But in a lot of 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:17.320 these situations, I like to look at Oukham's razor, what 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.680 is the most likely, what is the simplest explanation for 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.120 all of this? And given that they don't let you 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.520 do this stuff on Twitter, if you do they require 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.600 you to pull it? If you know, show your job, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.600 act like you hate it. There. I mean they're gonna 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.960 get rid of you. I mean, I will give you 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.200 my prediction here on the air. Okay, I'm gonna give 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.720 you my prediction here on the air. All right, Okay, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:50.880 Within thirty days, Corey Graves will be back doing something 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:56.000 for WWE, whether it's commentary or whether it's a match 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:01.080 with Wade Barrett or the Royal Rumble or whatever. Okay, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.160 he will be back doing something for WWE, and the 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:11.280 official story will be it was a shoot that became 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.520 a work. Okay. So that's my prediction for a month 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.079 from now. If it turns out this is all a 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.120 shoot and he ends up getting fired, then that's fine. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.360 But that's where I think this is all leading. It 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.200 was a shoot everyone, but now it's a work playing 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.520 off reality. They'll say, could. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.400 It be a little column in a little column B? 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.080 Since he is being taken off the shows anyway and 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.840 they needed something to do with him and he goes 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:41.640 down to NXT. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.360 You get the response that you get. Do you think 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:45.240 maybe that's. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.200 Like, okay, well, let's play with this a little bit, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.280 especially if he does have any thoughts on possibly returning 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:51.840 to the ring. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:52.920 You know what I mean. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.559 It provides him a reason to have some time off 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.440 in doing something I don't know. I would be upset 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.440 if I was, because he does do a great job. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.920 And if there is let's just say, this whole thing 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.199 is a shoot. How disappointing is it that you have 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.400 Joe Testator, who's great. You got Pat McAfee who's great, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:19.600 But you're telling me that Corey Graves, Jesse Ventura, Bobby Heenan, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.480 Jerry Lawler, they were all better than Corey Graves in 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:24.120 that role. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:25.559 But Corey Graves is. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.079 The best person since any of them, and he can 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.880 do something they could never do, which is play by play. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.440 So you're telling me that there's not a place for 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.959 him in a three man booth alongside Way Barrett. If 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.239 it is actually a shoot at all, it's very disappointing. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.600 But I can see there being one true aspect of this, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.520 which is if I'm Corey Graves, maybe I do feel 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.200 a little bit of a way because I do do 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.640 a great job and I have been pushed out because 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.920 this other big name when it comes to Joe Testatur 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.000 has now stepped in and kind of shaken some things up. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.679 Well, here's the thing. I don't think Corey Graves is 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.080 an idiot, and if this is all real, I mean, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.560 he should know that they switch up the announcers all 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:16.040 the time. They switch up the ring announcers. For reasons unknown, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.240 it was very important to switch the Iron SmackDown ring 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.760 announcers when they moved to Netflix. I mean, yes, perhaps 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.680 he was demoted to NXT. Okay, there have been a 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.120 lot of people that have been NXT and back up 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.400 to the main roster and vice versa. It happens all 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.280 the time. There have been wrestlers that have been sent 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.840 down to NXT and they've been brought back to the 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.160 main roster. It happens all the time. So the idea that, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.080 oh my god, I was sent to NXT, my career 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.320 is over. I am a failure and a loser. I 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.520 find it hard to believe that those are the thoughts 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.400 going through his mind. If they are, then they are, Hey, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.600 who am I to say? But this happens all the time. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.240 I'm a failure and a loser. I don't think he's 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.280 saying that at all. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.000 I mean him on now, Well, the idea that he 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.920 got sent down there. So now he's like gotta quit 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.640 because like there's no hope to ever be back on 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.600 the main roster or to ever do anything about it. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.440 Like what are what are you talking about here? This 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:16.840 happens all the time. So anyway we'll see, Hey got 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.640 himself into the top story on Sling Observer Live on 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.880 a slow news day. Yeah, yes, I chose that. Or 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.720 we're talking about rod Netflix numbers? Good, well, that means 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.760 I got a hole next segment to talk about him. Hey, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.480 if you wanted Texas four two five seven eight zero 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.480 seven five sixty six at for w online, Gmail dot com, threads, Instagram, camut, 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.760 for w online at, Brian Alvarez on X and Blue 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.400 Sky also talk about our guest on After Dark after 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:56.680 the Breakupserver Live. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:15.440 Yeah, you are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.880 Alvarez and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.440 On the show, Bryan Alvaz here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:31.560 simber vv also Wrestling Observer dot com. So uh today 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.080 on after Dark Radio to Pacific five Eastern. That's in 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.640 just over an hour and a half here on Sports 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.560 Byline and YouTube and Twitch. However you're watching or listening 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.840 to this show, you can watch after Dark free to 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.560 Pacific five Eastern. Steve Stockton is going to be our guest, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:53.800 and the topic is people who have vanished in national parks, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:17:00.400 vanished at a thin air. They're just hiking with people around, 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.760 and they're gone, never to be found again. Happens regularly. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.199 And there's actually a book that he wrote on a 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.440 bunch of different locales. One of them was Washington State, 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.800 so I got that one. Read a lot about that. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.840 Don't get in the woods everybody. There's nothing good that happens, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.040 or I've learned. 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But if you only want the podcast in 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.720 pay nine to ninety nine, Apple, Spotify or YouTube. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.919 Are you going to ask him if a person disappears 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.440 in a forest, do they make a sound? 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.840 Hey, I'll ask him anything, ask him that, Yeah, and 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.919 they do they do? Yeah. It's if it's if the 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.280 tree falls into forest and there's no one around to 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.240 hear it, it doesn't make a sound because a sound 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.119 is a wave. In order for it to become a sound, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.440 there needs to be something too, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:59.560 So just the way it works, science science now, also 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:04.120 science is these Netflix numbers just quick. So they did 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.679 the adding in the week after the raw debut. They 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.119 added an extra extra million people watched after the initial 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:17.840 two day viewership number. Sure, so five point nine million 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:25.919 views globally and seventeen point seven million hours viewed. So 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.680 the total view hours are the length of the program 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.000 divided by are the total viewers viewing hours of the 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.639 program divided by the runtime. So this is not just 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.120 you know, seventeen million people watched a second of the show. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:47.320 There were seventeen point seven million hours viewed, and you 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.800 divide that by three, and essentially they're saying five point 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.359 nine million people watched on average the entire show. So 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.440 and hey, you know, people can disbelieve this. But as 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.639 Davis pointed out, ever since that raw, Netflix, dude, they 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.719 started selling tickets. In the last week, they started selling 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.320 a lot of tickets. They sold a lot of tickets 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.720 for this past Monday's Raw. They sold a lot And 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.520 there's no reason for it other than Netflix. It's like 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.640 all of a sudden, people decided that this Monday's Raw 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.679 was very important. In the last week, like they always 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.320 sell some tickets, but like big influx of tickets. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.639 It is the season though too, you know, and it 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.760 was tough times there towards the end of the last 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.879 year financially for people, so you know, maybe some of 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.840 the spending has opened up a little bit too. I 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.400 think it's a variety of reasons. But the Netflix thing 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:41.560 certainly doesn't hurt. And five point nine million people worldwide 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.960 if that's what they said within a week watch that show. Yeah, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:46.439 I mean, I guess I can believe that. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:46.800 Sure. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.560 I mean, look at the numbers that you know, WWE 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.440 what they max out probably what their fandom would be 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.440 watching a show on network TV. You know, what was 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.639 it for SmackDown? You go a little bit over that 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.920 as far as just you know, people watching on Netflix, sure, 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.399 and then go and almost double that, a little bit 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:05.959 more than double that for worldwide. 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:06.760 Sure. 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.399 It's just, you know, do these numbers really mean anything 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.800 right now? They really don't, you know, individually as the 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.840 weeks go on. But I'm sure we're going to talk 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:15.560 about them anyway. 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:21.200 Well, I'll say one more thing, because I have more 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:28.040 exact numbers now somebody who got the numbers directly from Peacock. Okay, 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:34.000 Peacock reported seven hundred thousand concurrent streams for the Saturday 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.480 Night's main event on NBC, which did one point five 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.320 million on NBC. Concurrent does not mean these were people 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:45.119 to watch later. Concurrent means as the show was airing live, 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.919 there were seven hundred thousand people streaming on Peacock. Okay, 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:55.679 Peacock has thirty six million subscribers in the US. MAX 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.960 has fifty two point six million in the US and Canada. 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.640 So I mean, if anything, Max has probably more US subscribers, 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.600 because I don't think it's fifty to fifty US and 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:13.119 Canada population size. So you know, Max has more subscribers 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.240 than Peacock. And if a Saturday Night's main event is 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:21.439 doing fifty percent concurrent streams, then it is absolutely, in 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.200 no way crazy to think that a Dynamite that does 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.159 six hundred and fifty thousand viewers on television is not 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.520 doing another one hundred and fifty maybe two hundred thousand 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:36.199 on Max concurrent. And plus I'll ask this question, this 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.240 is not this is not scientific, but I'll just ask, 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.040 raise your hand in the chat if you are now 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:46.400 watching Dynamite on Max. Okay, raise your hand. We're gonna 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.800 see people just going like, I am I am, I am, 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.400 I am okay me, you know here they come. These 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.400 are people that are now watching on Max. They don't 0:22:54.400 --> 0:23:00.760 watch on whatever anymore. Okay, now raise your hand, Raise 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:08.480 your hand. If you watch Saturday night's main event on Peacock, anybody, Okay, 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.960 I'll tell you why, though I haven't heard a single 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.080 person who was like, I chose Peacock over NBC. 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.240 I did. Actually you did. 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:17.840 You watched on Peacock. 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:19.040 Here's the reason why. 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:19.720 I'll tell you. 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.240 Was making Dad was doing something I think it was 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.800 making dinner or something like that. And I never said 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.960