Speaker 1: What is that? What's happening? Why does that sting?
Speaker 2: And now sometimes you can be like too much when
Speaker 2: I've been told that, like tone it down, like you
Speaker 2: you know at Baltimore can't come with you, which you
Speaker 2: mean that's what got me here. You know, evolution is beautiful,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 1: I will never lose my cord. Thanks for watching, guys.
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Speaker 3: She grew up in West Baltimore with a mouth that
Speaker 3: had no filter. She bet on herself with nothing but
Speaker 3: a phone, a desk, and a rehab center for at
Speaker 3: risk kids, then went viral. Nick Cannon gave her her shot.
Speaker 3: Martin Lawrence put her in front of thirteen thousand people.
Speaker 3: She earned her seat on the Breakfast Club table. But
Speaker 3: none of that is why she wrote her first book.
Speaker 3: She wrote it for every cold parent who's had to
Speaker 3: show up for a person who repeatedly broke their heart
Speaker 3: because their child needed them to Comedian actress radio host
Speaker 3: now fulth and my girl Jesslaious in real life.
Speaker 2: And oh my god, it's an honor to be here
Speaker 2: just with the mess and her news is real all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Angie, Hi mama, how are you?
Speaker 3: How do you feel in that seat because I know
Speaker 3: you've been doing a lot of press. Yes, and I've
Speaker 3: been doing a lot of watching I r L. And
Speaker 3: I feel good to be here because girl, you don't
Speaker 3: just be sitting down talking to anybody.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't.
Speaker 2: So I love this. This is oh my gosh, royalty.
Speaker 2: So of course, yes, I feel good.
Speaker 3: You know you're a radio girl now too, Like for real?
Speaker 3: Has that said in for you all the way yet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, because you're a comedian right first you're comedian and
Speaker 3: then you step right into this role with a vengeance.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just saying, they put you into like the
Speaker 3: Lions then the Lions Den, Yes, you're getting thrown in
Speaker 3: the water, shorty.
Speaker 1: People don't always understand that, yeah, because if somebody sees
Speaker 1: talent and potential, and you always had talent, people.
Speaker 3: Were, you had a following, you had a whole career
Speaker 3: before you hit the breakfast club, which we'll get into tonight.
Speaker 3: But that moment when you transition to something new, people
Speaker 3: just assume, oh, she's talented. Of course she could go
Speaker 3: do the breakfast club, or of course she could go.
Speaker 1: Do radio, or she could it.
Speaker 3: But people don't always understand that when it's happening in
Speaker 3: real time. It's tricky, it's hard, it's you. It's like
Speaker 3: you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: What was that like for you? That moment? Man? When
Speaker 1: I get there, Cause, like you said all the things.
Speaker 2: I already got my own brand already, you know, like
Speaker 2: I'm used to seeing whatever I want to say. I'm
Speaker 2: used to being unfiltered jests. You get in, you're a pond, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: and then you you are now and somebody else's pond
Speaker 2: where it's two other people, two other big fish you know,
Speaker 2: you know their dominant figures aufha. Everybody has their their
Speaker 2: own big energy. And now you're like, damn do I
Speaker 2: fall back? How do I fit in? Is everybody going
Speaker 2: to be susceptible to who I've been before I got here?
Speaker 2: Radio is so different because now I have to be censored.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't say the things that I want
Speaker 2: to say, or I gotta say.
Speaker 1: Them a different way.
Speaker 2: Learned it real quick, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's why I want to do the part your podcast.
Speaker 1: And not the radio.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I want to get real and shitn't
Speaker 3: want to say shit, bitch fuck. I want to say
Speaker 3: all of that stuff like that it's doing you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and then getting up that early every day?
Speaker 3: Who angie, I'm still not I'm in my third year
Speaker 3: at the parksto. I'm still not used to What time
Speaker 3: do you get up in the morning? Three thirty, between
Speaker 3: three thirty and four?
Speaker 2: Come on, yes, because you got to make up? You
Speaker 2: got because not only radio is not what it used
Speaker 2: to be. You're not only heard anymore. Now you're seen
Speaker 2: and shit, and it's like, yo, I gotta look presentable.
Speaker 2: I'm not the makeup girly every day. I damn sure
Speaker 2: what in the edges girly?
Speaker 1: Every day?
Speaker 2: I just got edges, So I'm like, damn now I
Speaker 2: gotta do them too, like girl, It's a lot, but
Speaker 2: I am very thankful for the opportunity. And it's also
Speaker 2: taught me to think through things. I was always just
Speaker 2: so quick, like because improv I'm a comedian.
Speaker 1: We quick on our.
Speaker 2: Feet, you know, we clap back what I would even
Speaker 2: thinking sometimes. But that's what radio has taught me, Like
Speaker 2: especially doing radio on New York, Like it has taught
Speaker 2: me like you don't have to quickly respond to things,
Speaker 2: like think about it, and it's Okay, that's why you
Speaker 2: got two other co hosts to fill in the gaps.
Speaker 1: For you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then we got Lauren and I love that dynamic
Speaker 2: as well. But I'm still getting used to whatever its
Speaker 2: balance is because I still am just hilarious outside of
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club for so many known for so many other
Speaker 2: things that I got to keep up as well.
Speaker 1: You still got to keep doing that too.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I just wonder for you because I would
Speaker 3: I from the outside could see you come in and
Speaker 3: go that's tough.
Speaker 1: Like I could see it. I could be like, that's tough.
Speaker 1: Number one, You're in it.
Speaker 3: You're jumping into something that was already existing, right, somebody
Speaker 3: else had already sat in that chair for since its inception,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And she yes, shout out to her.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just want And there's sometimes those
Speaker 3: moments in women's lives and women's careers could feel you know, scary, lonely, vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Definitely, you know what I mean. And that's what it like.
Speaker 2: That's what it was after I came down from the
Speaker 2: high of actually getting the job, because you're like, yes,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm going to do it every day
Speaker 2: before I get I'm like, every day, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm hiring videographers and things like that.
Speaker 1: They're putting together.
Speaker 2: Like all these dope visuals because I'm really trying to
Speaker 2: pitch myself for this third seat.
Speaker 1: And then I get it, and I'm like, I do
Speaker 1: this every day.
Speaker 2: Now I gotta do it, you know, Okay, four o'clock
Speaker 2: every day. Then damn okay, now I'm pregnant, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: and then this is oh wow.
Speaker 1: You know. So it was it felt very.
Speaker 2: It was challenging, but like there were times I did
Speaker 2: feel lonely alone. I felt like, all right, I need
Speaker 2: to take a class to get where right.
Speaker 1: There was no.
Speaker 3: Training I got through, and like, you know, I guess
Speaker 3: how to fit in at the radio or to how
Speaker 3: to do this radio job.
Speaker 2: It's like and then the biggest challenge for me off
Speaker 2: the rip. I could see it even when I was
Speaker 2: guest co hosting was interviews because I don't be knowing
Speaker 2: what the hell to asks these people. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Charlemagne that everybody got their own niche,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you got Charlomage.
Speaker 1: He gonna get real deep and gay, like he gonna
Speaker 1: get it like you know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, you can't be therapeutic and gay, you
Speaker 2: know at the same time. You know, you got to
Speaker 2: meet people a certain place, and you got envy that
Speaker 2: always want to go from the beginning and always I
Speaker 2: want to ask you, how did you get into this?
Speaker 2: So I can't go that route because that's him, He's
Speaker 2: the beginning man.
Speaker 1: Then you got Laurie. Yes, Then you got Lauren.
Speaker 2: She she's gonna bang up in some scene from nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two that these people nine times out of ten
Speaker 2: forgot and got scrubbed from the internet. But she gonna
Speaker 2: go in the back pocket and get it with her
Speaker 2: TMZ back. Don't having ass, you know. And then I'm there, like,
Speaker 2: how was your flight? What you're doing after this?
Speaker 1: What you like to eat?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 2: I don't be knowing what the hell to ask. I've
Speaker 2: gotten better, I feel like, but I'm like, damn, is there.
Speaker 1: A class that I got to take on? This like
Speaker 1: a good trick for you. Wish you would have called me.
Speaker 1: I don't help you. I would have helped you to
Speaker 1: be like, girl, I need to fight. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, your option. I'm still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: You know what I found to be my Niche is
Speaker 2: right when things are because you know, you at the
Speaker 2: breakfast club, you're in a bit of a hot seat,
Speaker 2: especially if you've done something that went public viral, and
Speaker 2: you know, any type of controversy or whatever, they gonna
Speaker 2: bring it up. Even if you submit a list and
Speaker 2: say don't bring it up, that may them bring it
Speaker 2: up even quicker.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I have learned to be
Speaker 1: the comedic.
Speaker 2: Relief in the room, like okay, now, I make people
Speaker 2: feel comfortable to be there when they think the total
Speaker 2: opposite because a lot of people that come there they
Speaker 2: know me is just with the mess, so they looking
Speaker 2: at me to be messing. I'm like, no, that's that
Speaker 2: boyhead nigga right there, like you're gonna do it. And
Speaker 2: then that's Lauren over there too because she's real journy
Speaker 2: loving and respected. But me, being a comedian, I make
Speaker 2: the people laugh. I make them feel comfortable. I make
Speaker 2: them feel like, okay, all right, this ain't so bad,
Speaker 2: all right, and then they leaning more to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, okay, this is to be my name
Speaker 1: saying just be who you are, Just be who you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is always the answer to everything, Lord,
Speaker 3: every answer every question in life.
Speaker 1: It's like, get to the truth of who you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll help you answer that question, even in that
Speaker 3: little problem, right right, right.
Speaker 1: So when I asked them, how how is your flight?
Speaker 3: They feel good that the heat is now off for
Speaker 3: something that they did twenty years ago. Yeah, haven't you
Speaker 3: rely on comedy like you look at you look for
Speaker 3: the I don't know, the common thing that's.
Speaker 1: Funny in the moment. Absolutely, and you tap into that,
Speaker 1: which is why a you're good. You're good at what
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 2: And the fact that I'm a mom too, because we
Speaker 2: had we have no moms on the show. You know, Lauren,
Speaker 2: she wants to be a mom, you know, one day,
Speaker 2: but she's not Envy Charlemagne. They have wives who are
Speaker 2: moms or whatever, but they're not a mom. They can't
Speaker 2: directly speak to what's the mom of the bunch exactly?
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right now, this is my niche too,
Speaker 2: the funny mom who's gonna love on you a cold
Speaker 2: make fun of you every now and then, But I'm
Speaker 2: a love on you too.
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Speaker 3: have been hard, though, because I know you had postpartum
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: So you're already in this new job that you got
Speaker 3: to get up three o'clock in the morning, that you're
Speaker 3: learning how to do interviews, you have a public controversy
Speaker 3: that happens that we'll get into a little bit later. Yes,
Speaker 3: all that stuff is going on, and then you're pregnant
Speaker 3: with postpartum and showing up for work.
Speaker 1: Well, when you get back to work, Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard.
Speaker 2: It was breastfeeding. It was like the walls were closing
Speaker 2: in on me. And you don't know that you're facing
Speaker 2: or dealing with postpartum until you come out of it,
Speaker 2: like or at least that's how it was for me.
Speaker 2: I've heard other women describe it to be the same
Speaker 2: for them, but I didn't know what that looked like.
Speaker 2: I didn't have postpartum depression with my son, and I
Speaker 2: went through like one of what I would call the
Speaker 2: worst pregnancy of pregnancies of my life, pregnant with my son,
Speaker 2: because I know we'll get into that later, but like
Speaker 2: I planned me and my husband planned our daughter, and
Speaker 2: postpartum hit me. I think it was like so much
Speaker 2: I was trying to focus on.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I thought like I went through a period where I
Speaker 2: didn't think I was funny. I stopped writing comedy. I
Speaker 2: was doubting myself in every every area, you know, and
Speaker 2: there was nothing that my husband can do for me
Speaker 2: to make me feel better.
Speaker 1: And I did.
Speaker 2: I still was like postpartum depression. No, that's not me,
Speaker 2: because I didn't know how to identify it, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I don't even know, Like you just didn't
Speaker 1: expect it. I didn't expect it because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: everything is going good in my life.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm successful here, I'm successful there. I got businesses
Speaker 2: that I'm running. My all is coming together, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your husband, how could I be going through postpartum depression?
Speaker 1: Nah? Like you really, it doesn't matter what era you
Speaker 1: are in in your life.
Speaker 2: It's gonna hit you when it's gonna hit you. You know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who you are, it's gonna hit you.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize it until I came out. What
Speaker 2: does that feel like for somebody who hasn't experience it?
Speaker 2: For you, like, what is the low point? What is
Speaker 2: the moment where you're like fuck? You feel guilty all
Speaker 2: the time, like you can't do anything right for your child.
Speaker 2: I felt like because I wasn't because I was breastfeeding,
Speaker 2: I felt like out of nowhere, I wasn't making enough
Speaker 2: milk for her. So I felt like a failure as
Speaker 2: a mom. I felt like I wasn't a good wife.
Speaker 2: I felt like I started having a parental guilt with
Speaker 2: my son, like, oh my god, is he looking at
Speaker 2: me as a selfish parent? Because I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: give him the things that I can give his sister
Speaker 2: at at her age when he was that young. You know, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking even girl, And I would never in my life,
Speaker 2: but I was thinking even like damn is my son
Speaker 2: looking at me like damn, why couldn't she stay with
Speaker 2: my father?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't she have stayed with my dad? Oh, you're
Speaker 1: putting yourself through it?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 2: And I know, girl, if I could go back and
Speaker 2: look at myself going through that moment, like, girl, please,
Speaker 2: there's no way that she would ever even go back
Speaker 2: with Rome ever, like he got a baby daddy name Jerome, Like, no,
Speaker 2: why would you even do that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: But like I said, I thought, I thought Breakfast Club
Speaker 2: would trying to replace me, you know, with Lauren for sure,
Speaker 2: you know, like, and that was the big elephant in
Speaker 2: the room. And then I'm going through the comments and
Speaker 2: I'm not liking what I see, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: people who loved me. Then it was people who was
Speaker 2: like who wanted her to be on the show over me,
Speaker 2: And it was people who wanted me back. Then it
Speaker 2: was people that was like, well, like, none of them
Speaker 2: bring Angela back. I was like, shit, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: It was so much comments will kill you, girl.
Speaker 3: They're ready to kill you in real life, just on
Speaker 3: a day, let alone, in the middle of postpartum. Those
Speaker 3: comments are going I can only I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. No, no, And then.
Speaker 2: In my mind I also was like thinking about what
Speaker 2: if this don't work, thenk you're a two time baby mama.
Speaker 1: Then then you got to write another book. You know,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling my husband these things.
Speaker 3: He's like, what the hell is wrong with you? What
Speaker 3: are you talking about? Like, no, I'm here, what's wrong?
Speaker 3: You know? Did you know did somebody identify like, hey,
Speaker 3: this might be postpartum?
Speaker 1: No, no, I was.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go to the doctor because I
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't want to see a therapist.
Speaker 2: I didn't want the confirmation. Like I was scared for
Speaker 2: that to be the confirmation. Yeah, I'm like, nah, he's
Speaker 2: just move swings like nah, nah, I didn't want to.
Speaker 2: I was afraid of the the clarity that I would
Speaker 2: get the diagnosis. I'm like nah, no, but I'm just
Speaker 2: coming out of it, to be honest with you, it's
Speaker 2: been like a month and now, yeah, my daughter is
Speaker 2: about to be two August twentieth, she's about to be too,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, I was in that shit for
Speaker 2: over a year.
Speaker 3: So you're just kind of you're kind of just assessing
Speaker 3: it now, like, ye, right, is the book the book
Speaker 3: probably helped you pull that up a little bit? No? No, no,
Speaker 3: so this is very recent that you're just in this
Speaker 3: new space.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even and I'm glad that she brought up
Speaker 2: that you could even see it visibly, like not that
Speaker 2: you were saying you saw the postpartum depression, but you
Speaker 2: saw like you kind of see because you come from
Speaker 2: this world. She's struggling a little bit, like she trying
Speaker 2: to find her place, and it's like, you know, and
Speaker 2: I know if you see it, my fancy it. People
Speaker 2: were writing me, like my parents seen it, my you know,
Speaker 2: my mom, my pastor everybody is like, yo, you good,
Speaker 2: you are right, You're not really yourself sitting up there,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And this was once I came back.
Speaker 2: You know, I felt like I never got my mojo back,
Speaker 2: like never got it after I came back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just starting to step into That's funny because
Speaker 3: I didn't see it like that so much. I didn't think, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know you that well before. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I didn't know the difference. But I could just
Speaker 3: imagine and I could see just from some of the
Speaker 3: limited conversations and everything that happened. I feel like I
Speaker 3: could see that, and also I know that feeling I've
Speaker 3: been in a new slot or in a new thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
Speaker 3: I've been a rady a long time, so maybe not
Speaker 3: the exact experience, but enough of an experience.
Speaker 1: To be plopped into a new situation where your life fun. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody got an opinion and everybody and then
Speaker 3: when you're in your.
Speaker 1: Own head, oh, the opinions is they don't help They
Speaker 1: do not help me.
Speaker 3: They will break you down and make you feel crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just realized this too. Then you
Speaker 3: got on top of the layers. It's funny because we
Speaker 3: just did an interview with Young and May the other day.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, super random.
Speaker 1: This clip goes viral.
Speaker 3: It's like four million views or something, and of me
Speaker 3: and her talking about She's telling me she does karaoke
Speaker 3: and she sings Whitney Houston and I'm joking.
Speaker 1: I'm like really really so what.
Speaker 3: People are laughing or they crying, like whatever. The clip
Speaker 3: goes right. But sometimes when the net is wider, like
Speaker 3: my normal audience, the comments.
Speaker 1: I know they know me. I know them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a rapport like your normal just hilarious
Speaker 3: audience in the clips.
Speaker 1: You know them, they know you. Now, all of a sudden, a.
Speaker 3: New group of people have entered the chats, people that
Speaker 3: don't really know you.
Speaker 1: Same thing when you go to the breakfast club.
Speaker 3: Now you got a whole new audience, people that don't
Speaker 3: really know you for all this time, that got an
Speaker 3: opinion about everything you do.
Speaker 1: The reason I compare it is because I was looking
Speaker 1: at the Younger Maid clip and people.
Speaker 3: Were like, this lady doesn't respect her because because she's
Speaker 3: somebody saying because because young and may what's the term
Speaker 3: stud It wasn't a stund but it was something she
Speaker 3: presents masculine. So this lady thinks she can't sing. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, clearly this is somebody who doesn't know
Speaker 3: But it was a lot of people that didn't know
Speaker 3: me with weird comments. And I was like, whenever you
Speaker 3: cast a wider net, or you step into a world
Speaker 3: that's bigger than your comfortable world, it also comes with
Speaker 3: people who don't know you very well, people who got
Speaker 3: shipped to say without any kind of you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I use that as a thing because I
Speaker 3: think that probably happens to a lot of people, Like
Speaker 3: whenever you jump into a bigger pool, it's a price.
Speaker 1: This is the thing that comes with that.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to like almost appeal to them,
Speaker 2: and I think I was getting lost in that.
Speaker 1: That's what I think I was doing. I was getting
Speaker 1: lost in neuse. You're right.
Speaker 2: They change up algorithms and like, now your video is
Speaker 2: popping up for people who don't know you, right, and
Speaker 2: their opinions now are stupid, Yes, are stupid, right, And
Speaker 2: it's a lot of a mixed thing. It's hard for
Speaker 2: you to find yours and you're like, damn, then I
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 1: What the hell happened? But really with people exactly you know,
Speaker 1: but you can't maam everybody.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm doing a better job with staying out
Speaker 2: the comments, because girl, I used to be called the
Speaker 2: clap back queen.
Speaker 1: I used to be in there like what I bet
Speaker 1: your mother you know what I mean. But I'm evolved.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four. I got time to be reading comments
Speaker 1: and responding back to people. You gotta be up at
Speaker 1: three in the morning, girl, And you got two kids and.
Speaker 3: Doing research and doing research on people that comes up.
Speaker 3: And her husband my husband, yes, you know.
Speaker 1: Who wants his wife to uphold her wifely duties. What
Speaker 1: are your wifely duties? Gosh, gosh?
Speaker 3: And first of all, I need you to say say
Speaker 3: it like a little more like you're happy about.
Speaker 2: No, I'm absolutely happy to be married. It's just so
Speaker 2: much like I have. My life is so chaotic, it's
Speaker 2: beautiful chaos. At the end of the day though, because
Speaker 2: my person. I'm so happy I'm married Chris Christopher Tolliver.
Speaker 2: I took his last name, so you know I love
Speaker 2: him because I love my name. Jessica Robin Moore sounds
Speaker 2: package it up, you could sell it to anybody. Now
Speaker 2: I added Tolliver, so it's Jessica Robin Moore Taliver.
Speaker 1: You know I love you. I sound like a vavam.
Speaker 3: All the damn names, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 3: I am very very happy.
Speaker 2: I am and I actually have joy, like because I
Speaker 2: found someone who didn't. I'm not gonna say he didn't
Speaker 2: care about who Jesselarious was.
Speaker 1: He knew that. That's a character, you know. He knew that.
Speaker 2: And it's a lot of Jessica Robin Moore Taliver in
Speaker 2: just larious. But that's my brand that I put that.
Speaker 2: I take that head off at night when you know
Speaker 2: I'm with my husband. He wanted to know who I was,
Speaker 2: and you know, what makes me happy, what brings me
Speaker 2: joy outside of you know, the industry that I'm in.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't even care about that, and that's
Speaker 2: what I love. I never had that never Wow, how
Speaker 2: did you guys meet? I met him in Baltimore, and
Speaker 2: the look he from Baltimore bornaries too, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing no more niggers from Baltimore because the
Speaker 2: all like I'm not.
Speaker 1: They take me back to where I don't want to be,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But he's so well rounded because he was contracted with
Speaker 2: the army, so he lived in Kuwait for like four years,
Speaker 2: and he lived in Thailand, and he's just he's well rounded.
Speaker 2: You would never even know. He ain't even really got
Speaker 2: the accent until he get mad. Then you hear all
Speaker 2: of you and the dou and the suit and I'm like, damn.
Speaker 2: I was trying to get away from that. But I
Speaker 2: met him in Baltimore. I was getting crabs. This was
Speaker 2: February twenty third, twenty twenty three. I was just finishing
Speaker 2: up an episode of Breakfast Club. I was guest co
Speaker 2: host and I caught the train down me and my
Speaker 2: sister and my homegirl with go get some crabs.
Speaker 1: He coming there.
Speaker 2: He's sitting at the end of the bar and he
Speaker 2: beating his people's They knew who I was, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Really scoping or anything.
Speaker 2: He was just like down there conversating with them, and
Speaker 2: he was he's a truck driver, so he was like
Speaker 2: on the stop and I tried to buy him around
Speaker 2: the shots. He didn't drink, didn't smoke. He do now
Speaker 2: because I'm a little crazy, but yeah, he didn't, and
Speaker 2: so I was like, I like you, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And I'm buying shots and he ain't drinking
Speaker 2: none of them. So I get up and I go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and you never know how drunk you
Speaker 2: are until you stand up. And I'm like, sis, walk
Speaker 2: me to the bathroom because I gotta walk past him,
Speaker 2: but I'm drunk a shit and she was like all right, cool.
Speaker 2: We walked past or whatever, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: hope you're not watching me walk away. And I turned
Speaker 2: around and he wasn't, and I was like, that's fucked up,
Speaker 2: you know. But I came out and he I could
Speaker 2: tell he was getting up, you know, because he was
Speaker 2: ready to leave.
Speaker 1: But he was like, I wouldn't like to take you out.
Speaker 2: I want to get to know you outside of this environment,
Speaker 2: you know, when you sober and everything.
Speaker 1: I want to get to know who you are, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it was that's it. A week later he
Speaker 1: took me on a date and I haven't left his side.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so cute. Yes, three years. I'm
Speaker 3: happy about that. Yeah, I mean you went through a lot, man,
Speaker 3: it's the w Yes, you didn't hold back about how
Speaker 3: you let him know about your baby daddy.
Speaker 1: Yah know with some of the things went wrong there.
Speaker 3: But you guys have figured this out, like you really
Speaker 3: seem to have figured it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. Well, what was the motivation behind even Like,
Speaker 1: let me tell this story?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you've told stories. Yeah, you've been
Speaker 3: open about your relationship with him. You guys done the
Speaker 3: pod The Pot Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: A YouTube series that we developed co parents and therapy.
Speaker 2: We used to do those, but like I really wanted
Speaker 2: to put it into like a piece of literature, our story.
Speaker 1: Because girl, I just felt like social.
Speaker 2: Media today, right, you'll go down and use rabbit holes
Speaker 2: and TikTok, Instagram, Facebook X whatever you're on, and you
Speaker 2: see like there is a real category or like a
Speaker 2: real like thing where people want to stay stagnant and
Speaker 2: stay dysfunctional and they love toxicity. They feed off of
Speaker 2: that and the code parenting conversations outside of marriage or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like baby mamas and bitter baby daddies and everybody,
Speaker 2: and they are talking about how much they hate the
Speaker 2: co parent, like it's not gonna affect your children, like
Speaker 2: your kids ain't gotta see this. Like there's been a
Speaker 2: bad stigma put on people, put on couples that don't
Speaker 2: stay together, like they feel like once you meet somebody,
Speaker 2: you have a baby, you on love all the things.
Speaker 1: Y'all break up. Now that's the end of it. You
Speaker 1: take the kid.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this. We can't even be cool, Like
Speaker 2: fuck my baby mama, fuck you got sexy Red. That
Speaker 2: was like she probably get mad again.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You got it, sexy Red. That's like,
Speaker 1: fuck my baby dad.
Speaker 2: It's like so many it's like that's an audience that like, really, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on a sim of the yo.
Speaker 2: On this book press tour, I sat and I did
Speaker 2: many podcasts, right, and I go and do this one
Speaker 2: in particular, And as soon as I sat down, I
Speaker 2: can tell they didn't read the book. But as soon
Speaker 2: as I sat down, the one girl's like yes, finally
Speaker 2: we got somebody who finally wrote a fuck my Baby
Speaker 2: Daddy book, cause y'all, I can't wait to tell you
Speaker 2: about mine. So I was like, Yeah, you clearly did
Speaker 2: not read the book, and you clearly don't know me.
Speaker 2: That's never been me, that's never been my story me
Speaker 2: and Ra I've never been able to say that about wrong.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: In the beginning of the book, chapter one, three, maybe four,
Speaker 2: some things went.
Speaker 1: Down, yes, but a little toxic.
Speaker 2: But nah, I've never because you got to think about it, yo,
Speaker 2: you once loved this person, you once you know, And
Speaker 2: although y'all not gonna be together, y'all can still come
Speaker 2: together and be friends. Even if you ain't best friends
Speaker 2: like me and Rome like you can still build a
Speaker 2: bond that's healthy for y'all too, because y'all, y'all gotta
Speaker 2: have the mindset for these kids, and you know, the
Speaker 2: right mindset for these kids, the right mentality, and y'all
Speaker 2: can raise the kids effectively.
Speaker 1: You don't have to hate each other.
Speaker 3: It requires though some well, number one, it requires you
Speaker 3: number one to put your children first. It requires actually
Speaker 3: be mindful about doing that. But it also requires you to,
Speaker 3: like for have to have forgiveness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know. I feel like you actually
Speaker 1: like I do, I do? You give him almost.
Speaker 3: You know, you understand his history and his background, and
Speaker 3: maybe some you can kind of just not justify but understand.
Speaker 1: Some of his behavior. You can make a decision A
Speaker 1: ain't for you, yes, but you could give him grace
Speaker 1: in some of his maybe shortcomings or things that he didn't.
Speaker 3: Do right in that relationship. And that's hard for a
Speaker 3: lot of people, especially when they.
Speaker 1: Still got in it. You got feelings, and I always
Speaker 1: say that you say in the book, don't be trying
Speaker 1: to jump around, don't be don't jump around in and.
Speaker 2: Out No of sex, no, please, no, stop forging maybe daddy,
Speaker 2: don't don't do it. Don't do it, because that's like
Speaker 2: false hope in a sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's more confusion. Yeah, and you're being let on
Speaker 2: and then vice versa. You got some guys that the.
Speaker 1: Baby mama leads on.
Speaker 2: Like I've seen it. I've seen it happen before, and
Speaker 2: I know the most complicated thing to do is co
Speaker 2: parent with somebody who you feel like you despise, or
Speaker 2: you feel like despises you. You feel like there's no end,
Speaker 2: like he hurt me so bad, and that's with me
Speaker 2: and wrong with you. In the beginning, I felt like
Speaker 2: he had hurt me so bad. I was trying to
Speaker 2: show up to be.
Speaker 3: The most bitterest of bitters, Like I was trying to
Speaker 3: be a bitter baby mama and the best parent for Ashton.
Speaker 1: And that's like oil and water that don't go you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Because it confuses your kids too, because I'm walking around angry,
Speaker 2: holding all of this negativity and energy and I'm angry
Speaker 2: most of the time, and his dad, but I'm projecting
Speaker 2: on him. And then I start seeing that and my son,
Speaker 2: like he messing up in school, he talking back to me,
Speaker 2: he's being disrespectful, defiant, opposition and all that, and I'm like, well, dad,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? And it's like you are what's
Speaker 2: wrong with him? And it took me, It didn't take
Speaker 2: me a lot of time to see that. But how
Speaker 2: me and Rome got past everything he had done to me.
Speaker 2: I had to start realizing that this is bigger than me.
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with me. Rome came from
Speaker 2: a traumatic childhood right he found his mom dead at ten,
Speaker 2: and he was the fun one to find her.
Speaker 1: That is how he.
Speaker 2: Describes it to be the worst day of his life,
Speaker 2: Like nothing comes close to that feeling, and it still
Speaker 2: affects him now. And I think by his family not
Speaker 2: getting him the necessary help to teach him how to
Speaker 2: navigate or help him navigate with that loss, or you know,
Speaker 2: to cope with mourning at your mom. You know, she
Speaker 2: was he was her only child, you know, And then
Speaker 2: his life was uprooted at ten and he has a
Speaker 2: different household to go live into.
Speaker 1: Think what he started doing was self medicating on.
Speaker 2: Women, like with women like as he got older, because
Speaker 2: he never got any professional help with that.
Speaker 1: And I was able to.
Speaker 2: Understand that and change my mindset and my mentality toward him, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this shit is bigger than me.
Speaker 1: Like I got to give him a little grace.
Speaker 2: He got to see somebody though he need professional help,
Speaker 2: but I could tell I was like the first step
Speaker 2: toward therapy because he had never got vulnerable, that vulnerable
Speaker 2: enough to share those things.
Speaker 3: What's interesting too, is like you might not have gotten
Speaker 3: to that place to give him that grace if you
Speaker 3: had not removed yourself from that relationship. Yeah, because if
Speaker 3: you just stayed in it, because I think women make
Speaker 3: the mistake of like, you could have grace for someone
Speaker 3: you love and understand their background and why, and it's
Speaker 3: bigger than you. You can understand that. But if you
Speaker 3: stay in it, somebody's going down. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: you can't rise to even have the grace.
Speaker 1: If you're in the shit with the person. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But somehow you got out, somehow you made a decision, yeah,
Speaker 3: which I'm sure which was not an easy one.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't. It really was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't easy at first because, like I said, I
Speaker 2: was still in it and I did go down.
Speaker 1: I went that Nigga sent me to jail. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was wild.
Speaker 2: I'm busting out windows, I'm popping up at jobs, and
Speaker 2: I'm fighting the other baby mother and I'm catching them
Speaker 2: with girls, and I'm like, look y'all, all right, this
Speaker 2: this too much, you know, especially when he showed up
Speaker 2: at my son's birthday, at our son's first birthday party
Speaker 2: with another bit.
Speaker 1: What what's going on?
Speaker 2: Yes, like you know, and then people read that and
Speaker 2: they're like, how the hell did you get past that?
Speaker 2: How the hell are you sitting anywhere talking about he
Speaker 2: your best friend? I still don't know. I still don't know.
Speaker 2: I was just able to give him grades.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I know because the same reason you said, why is
Speaker 3: my son acting up? You did it for your son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you started with your son and then you found
Speaker 1: probably graceful him. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like my son started like acting up, and
Speaker 3: he was such a happy kid, like charming.
Speaker 2: Everything was that he did everything like his dad, like,
Speaker 2: because that's how room got me being charming and just
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, his little short ass just
Speaker 2: you know, I always say, if ray J and bow
Speaker 2: Wow made a baby, it'll be.
Speaker 3: Your own, it'll be my baby. Pun That's what I
Speaker 3: had to deal with, you know.
Speaker 1: But still very charming, you know.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I started seeing that at my son,
Speaker 2: and yeah, maybe that along with me understanding that traumatic
Speaker 2: incident that he had at ten walking and seeing his
Speaker 2: mom dead and then like you know, he still don't
Speaker 2: know like what happened or whatever. Nobody even tried to
Speaker 2: help him figure that out or anything.
Speaker 3: You know, the fact that he was that you could
Speaker 3: identify that he was medicating himself with women. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of men do that, yeah, and don't
Speaker 3: uh what was the word we said before, diagnose it right?
Speaker 3: So sometimes that like the baby mother or the wife
Speaker 3: or the woman is like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: They don't even know what's wrong with them. They don't
Speaker 3: because it hasn't been diagnosed. This is what you're doing.
Speaker 3: It's like you're medicating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you're actually ruining your life actually,
Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like Rome.
Speaker 2: Was looking for his mom and a lot of the
Speaker 2: women because he he longed for nurturing, Like he loves affection.
Speaker 2: He loves to do all the same things he used
Speaker 2: to be able to do with his mom.
Speaker 1: With women, it's like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, he hates you if you can't cook him like
Speaker 2: you're talking on the internet. He don't like like certain
Speaker 2: things like that. And it always goes back to his
Speaker 2: mom because he'll mention, my mother would never do no
Speaker 2: shit like that all the time. Every time he gets
Speaker 2: into it with like certain girlfriends and certain you know,
Speaker 2: like I noticed that he'd say that this is you know, past,
Speaker 2: But I'm like, yo, you're looking for your mother and
Speaker 2: these girls you know you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, woof, Yeah, that's a different type of love. Look
Speaker 1: at just the therapist. You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: might need a segment the chest the therapist, I do.
Speaker 2: I do a second called jest fix my mess. Yes,
Speaker 2: but see they don't take me serious.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 3: Yes, my message just seems like, you know, the therapists
Speaker 3: just could be a.
Speaker 1: Whole other thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, put on some glasses, you know, and not do
Speaker 3: it at work with two childish ass idiots.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But yeah, not that I thought about that.
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Speaker 3: honest about and we don't hear a lot of women
Speaker 3: admit to this.
Speaker 1: It's using the kid in a way. No, honestly, it's
Speaker 1: very common. Nobody admits it. It's like people use the
Speaker 1: kid or weaponize that or the other way.
Speaker 3: Or you also say something in the book about how
Speaker 3: money he would he would kind of use money to
Speaker 3: So you use what you got to.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you try to get whatever you're
Speaker 2: trying to hit like in the gut, because if you
Speaker 2: what I knew about Rome, like back then, if he
Speaker 2: didn't love anything else, he loved his kid like he
Speaker 2: loved his son. He was so happy that we were
Speaker 2: having a baby like I was. I was happy that
Speaker 2: he was happy. You know, I was happier for him
Speaker 2: than I was for myself about to step into motherhood.
Speaker 2: So like I knew this would get under his skin.
Speaker 2: I'm like, heini yours anyway, Like I used that, I
Speaker 2: said that ship them. Yeah, and then like later ass
Speaker 2: was toxic too, girl, yes, girl, And that's why and
Speaker 2: that and his his response to that because he was hurt.
Speaker 2: That's why he said he bought the bitch to the
Speaker 2: birthday party because you told me that my son wasn't
Speaker 2: mine anyway.
Speaker 1: And I understood. I understood that, Like, yeah I did,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was mad, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Shit, you know, but I've done so much growing.
Speaker 1: What do you attribute the growth to? Like, is it
Speaker 1: just lessons?
Speaker 3: Life?
Speaker 1: Therapy? I mean therapy? What nothing?
Speaker 2: No therapy, girl. He will shove therapy down somebody throat.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you in it because you need to go?
Speaker 3: Shit, even changed his face and you know his face all,
Speaker 3: you know, smooth now and everything.
Speaker 1: Shoot, so but he still need to go. But I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to it, to be honest, I don't
Speaker 2: know when to fuck.
Speaker 1: I have time to do therapy. You have grown?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I honestly, I equate that to
Speaker 2: like reading my Bibles because I was born and raised
Speaker 2: in the church, very structured household, my father being in
Speaker 2: a former marine. My mom born and raised in the
Speaker 2: church as well, so that's how she raised her kids.
Speaker 2: And keep your heading the Bible. You know, you give God,
Speaker 2: give God everything the glory yourself, you know, you ask
Speaker 2: him to use you, you know, and in situations where
Speaker 2: you don't know what to do and you drop seeing
Speaker 2: easy and you pray even when you feel like your
Speaker 2: prayers go unheard.
Speaker 1: Nah, nah, they're not. You know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to sit in a storm like you
Speaker 2: sitting in the season, because you gotta face the noise
Speaker 2: and shit.
Speaker 3: And I felt like I was very, very toxic. Was
Speaker 3: a lot of things I needed to work on.
Speaker 2: While I'm so busy trying to help Roam get through
Speaker 2: his shit, I'm like, nigga, I'm fucked up to a
Speaker 2: little bit, you know, because of this with you, This
Speaker 2: is a lot.
Speaker 1: We come from two different paths. And what is the
Speaker 1: prayer at that moment? Girl? What is the prayer to
Speaker 1: get you out of your own toxicity?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 2: Why would you even want me to go to jail?
Speaker 2: Why would you you said, I'm your kid? Why would
Speaker 2: you want me to bash this nigga head? And why
Speaker 2: would you want me to ride over here and bust
Speaker 2: his windows out? Why would you want me to fight
Speaker 2: this girl that's sitting on his lamp on the porch
Speaker 2: and my son in the house rolling around in a
Speaker 2: kittle it in the cat litter.
Speaker 1: Why would you want me to do that?
Speaker 3: You know? And what was your answer, did you? I
Speaker 3: don't no answer. What's jail like that? You and you
Speaker 3: didn't realize.
Speaker 1: You didn't realize I had to go through all of that,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: But even when you don't get a clear answer from God,
Speaker 3: it is not all about just prayer.
Speaker 2: It's about realizing too, Like, yo, this is more. This
Speaker 2: is about more than just you. You got a kid,
Speaker 2: You made a decision to have this baby. It's not
Speaker 2: about just praying. Like you really have to do some
Speaker 2: some deep diving into you got to look inside and
Speaker 2: be like, all right, what do I really want? Do
Speaker 2: I want to keep going through this shit like what
Speaker 2: you said earlier, Like do I want to keep doing this?
Speaker 2: Like it's draining me to be toxic? Like I'm stopping myself.
Speaker 2: I caught charges and shit like all right, because now
Speaker 2: you stopping yourself, and I feel like God will keep on.
Speaker 2: He will also keep putting you in the same position
Speaker 2: to be hurt by the same person until you wake up.
Speaker 1: Because I know, you know, God wants us to.
Speaker 2: Love thy brother, love thy sister, and you know, help
Speaker 2: everybody out where you can.
Speaker 1: But he still don't want you to be a fucking
Speaker 1: fool either, like you know, you want you to have
Speaker 1: some discernments.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I was very foolish, and I just didn't
Speaker 2: want to keep getting hurt and keep hurting myself, and
Speaker 2: I didn't want to keep seeing home hurt.
Speaker 1: Yes. I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that you're not afraid to, I don't know,
Speaker 3: just make mistakes and learn in real time, like out loud,
Speaker 3: and to go back to what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: I remember this moment.
Speaker 3: So you had just had this outburst with the breakfast club.
Speaker 3: You just came back, you went online and said whatever
Speaker 3: you said.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember everything about everybody and everything about everybody,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want you there.
Speaker 3: They were trying to force you out, and the whole
Speaker 3: thing went crazy, and I remember somebody was like she
Speaker 3: shouldn't have done that, and I was like myself, I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you had to pick moments to live out loud,
Speaker 3: even if it's uncomfortable for yourself and everybody else. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying on the record, yes, that you should have
Speaker 3: done I know, but I also told that I did
Speaker 3: say that to you, right. I love that you should have.
Speaker 3: But I think when you're not afraid to be out
Speaker 3: loud in a moment like that, it also gives you
Speaker 3: the opportunity to heal out loud, because whenever when people
Speaker 3: seeing you doing that and then reacting.
Speaker 1: You're on the radio every day and you're in a
Speaker 1: new position.
Speaker 3: So now people are getting to know you new people
Speaker 3: are getting to know you in a different way, and
Speaker 3: so now they see you in this conflict.
Speaker 1: But guess what, now we get to see you.
Speaker 3: You you heal the conflict, and now we've gone on
Speaker 3: that ride with you and we know you better. And
Speaker 3: I think sometimes to live out loud in those moments,
Speaker 3: if you're ready to and willing to deal with the
Speaker 3: comments and deal with the opinions and deal with everybody,
Speaker 3: if you're willing to do that, especially as a public figure,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think it could serve you. You know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a very.
Speaker 2: Uncomfortable moment, you know, like I and girl, I had
Speaker 2: to go live talk about everybody, and then go to
Speaker 2: work the next day, like my bad was going to work.
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I thought I was like, oh shit, I think I'm done. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I'm done. But I still went, and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: I forget it. Whatever I'm going.
Speaker 1: And I go in there and I.
Speaker 2: See the bus bus don't be coming in At five
Speaker 2: point thirty she was there. I was like, oh shit, hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing.
Speaker 1: She's like, you are right? You good? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Why what's good?
Speaker 3: You know, like I didn't just do this shit like
Speaker 3: everybody didn't see you talking? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, And then ooh, I walk in and there they
Speaker 2: want to have. Actually, Envy wanted to have the conversation
Speaker 2: on air, you know. And at first I was like, nah, nah,
Speaker 2: we not doing that, but then I was. Then I
Speaker 2: said to myself, no, what I did was public. They
Speaker 2: got every right the one I had this conversation with me, yes, publicly,
Speaker 2: like nah, I'm not going you know, hot.
Speaker 1: Tuck my tail hot?
Speaker 2: Like nah, all right, Well in his right to yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was hurt by it, you know. And I
Speaker 2: feel like I got a certain connection, like a different
Speaker 2: type of connection with Envy because he's like the big
Speaker 2: teddy bear, like big brother, Like Hi, don't play about loyalty.
Speaker 2: That's one thing about him and me getting to know him,
Speaker 2: because I had a long standing relationship with Charlotte before
Speaker 2: I came to the show, just got.
Speaker 1: To meet Lauren.
Speaker 2: But I really didn't like have like that bond with
Speaker 2: Envy until I came on to Breakfast Club and like
Speaker 2: he like welcomed me, open arms, whatever you when your
Speaker 2: kids need whatever you and Chrisny like he just accepted me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, damn, real family.
Speaker 2: Guy, stand up dude, solid love him, you know so
Speaker 2: that I can tell it hurt him more than it
Speaker 2: hurt anybody, you know. And that's what really made me cry.
Speaker 2: Like Envy, I just I burst into tears, but I
Speaker 2: still felt like, yo, I'm not crazy, Like yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: a little post part of me and ship, Yeah that's cool,
Speaker 2: but like, nah, y'all feel like y'all playing with me.
Speaker 2: Like I'm asking, yo, what's going on? Like am I
Speaker 2: being replaced? Like what are y'all doing with her? She's
Speaker 2: gonna be the fourth chair, Like what's happening?
Speaker 1: Hey? But I don't know. I mean, you know, like
Speaker 1: senior news producer. She's gone.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, producers really don't be on air like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I wanted her to
Speaker 2: sit in the third chair. Wow, I was out having
Speaker 2: my baby and shit, but I come back and we
Speaker 2: had a plan and now the plan is like different
Speaker 2: and didn't and nobody told me, and so I'm asking her, like, yo,
Speaker 2: it's Shane, no even I'm like.
Speaker 1: But you know what's going on? Stop bag.
Speaker 2: You are from TMZ. If anybody know anything, it's you, Like,
Speaker 2: I know, you know what's.
Speaker 1: Up, you know, But it was it was, it was.
Speaker 2: It was just no communication. And I felt like the
Speaker 2: rapport that I built with them before.
Speaker 1: Going to maternity leave.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was at least old some type
Speaker 2: of heads up, you know, and I didn't get that.
Speaker 2: So I acted out in a tantrum type of manner
Speaker 2: and we had that big blow up on air, and
Speaker 2: everything got better eventually. I don't regret doing that on air.
Speaker 2: I don't regret doing it because, like, it was a
Speaker 2: very real thing and it was a moment of the
Speaker 2: beginning of a healing process, like all right, come on,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 3: I guess that's what I was saying at the beginning
Speaker 3: of this. It's like, yeah, I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: I know, but I feel like I know you were.
Speaker 3: You were in a state of like postparty, new job,
Speaker 3: you needed support, you needed guidance. You weren't getting it
Speaker 3: and you had a tantrum. Yeah, you had a.
Speaker 1: Tantrum, you did, But like.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't know, I feel like, what a great
Speaker 3: opportunity for you for the fans of the show or
Speaker 3: people in the public to see you work through that
Speaker 3: with everyone as a team, to see you and Lauren
Speaker 3: get to the other side of that. It's beautiful to
Speaker 3: see that. And so I think you don't get to
Speaker 3: see that if you don't see the tantrum. For us,
Speaker 3: you don't get to see the healing if you don't
Speaker 3: get to see the tantrum. And so I love that
Speaker 3: we got to.
Speaker 2: Sit down with you Angela ye, like you know, because
Speaker 2: remember that women's event girl, that was like immediately after
Speaker 2: the live and shit. And so I'm imagine coming back
Speaker 2: to work after something like that and you saw all
Speaker 2: the white people walking down, Hey, Jesse, Okay, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm good, damn Like all right, relax y'all. And then
Speaker 2: Lauren actually was the one like, hey, we should go
Speaker 2: to the women's like it's Women's Day. It was all
Speaker 2: the girls of iHeart, like, let's I'm like girl, hell no,
Speaker 2: I just went live last week.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you talking to me, you know,
Speaker 1: Like no, She's like, no, let's go for real. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be great.
Speaker 2: Lauren is really a girl's girl, like she I love
Speaker 2: that how she didn't even of course in the moment
Speaker 2: she was upset, like you bitch said you ain't like
Speaker 2: me online and all of that, you know, but she
Speaker 2: was able to see, like also what I was going through,
Speaker 2: and she was able to put herself in my shoes, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would kind of feel that way too. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: do what you did, but I would feel that way too.
Speaker 2: And then we sat down with you and Angelaue and
Speaker 2: also like and you gave us that that I thought
Speaker 2: that was the most genius idea to remake The Boy
Speaker 2: is Mine, The Job is Mine. I thought that was
Speaker 2: so fucking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was trying to express to you guys that to
Speaker 3: own the narrative. I just wanted you to to own
Speaker 3: your own narrative, like, don't let people say what she is.
Speaker 1: Don't let Lauren.
Speaker 3: Don't let people tell you just ain't shit and hate you, Lauren,
Speaker 3: don't you know, just don't let people tell you that
Speaker 3: Lauren is trying to take you out because like, y'all
Speaker 3: control the narrative and I just I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to say that, so then that I did
Speaker 3: came up. But then you actually not only did you.
Speaker 2: Do it, but y'all took it and bodied yes, I
Speaker 2: thought it was so.
Speaker 3: And then Brandy to hear Brandy say like that was
Speaker 3: Jean Lauren just saw her at the Roofs picnic and
Speaker 3: Brandy was so happy about that.
Speaker 1: She was loved that. She loved it. So that makes
Speaker 1: me so happy. Yeah, I know, right, yes, And we
Speaker 1: don't do the same thing.
Speaker 2: I'm a comedian, she's a journalist, you know, like Lauren
Speaker 2: being caught with niggas.
Speaker 1: That ain't me. I'm not sitting behind Diddy for forty
Speaker 1: five days. I'm not doing it. She was there. She
Speaker 1: that's TMZ girl.
Speaker 3: She's about that life. She is about that life. Respect
Speaker 3: that that's a grind. The reason I love that is
Speaker 3: because I've made mistakes like that in my career, where
Speaker 3: you let people make you feel some way about somebody,
Speaker 3: And when I would get to the other side of it,
Speaker 3: I realized, Man, it's so much better when you could
Speaker 3: just get it out, get to it, because usually usually
Speaker 3: nobody really wants the problem.
Speaker 1: They want solutions, yeah, and things.
Speaker 2: It's not somebody I'm seeing every day. Like you spend
Speaker 2: more time with the people you work with then you
Speaker 2: do your family. So yeah, that that part.
Speaker 3: Too, not every day every day beefing with somebody every day,
Speaker 3: Like damn, I got to come up with a roast
Speaker 3: every day. You know.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do that. Yeah. People have done
Speaker 1: ship like that to me my whole career.
Speaker 3: I told that story we were with Ryan Coogler about
Speaker 3: how when I when they first put me on Afternoons. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like struggling with something and they put and
Speaker 3: they put ed lover on against me at Power. I
Speaker 3: think Afternoons and I love it, love right, yes, whatever,
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden he was like my competition,
Speaker 3: and I let a little bit of that get in
Speaker 3: my head. And then he booked Oprah Winfrey on his
Speaker 3: after you know She's Yes, still haven't really interviewed Oprah.
Speaker 3: He got the Oprah interview on Power. So it's new
Speaker 3: radio station, new lover right against me. Oh god, I
Speaker 3: caught myself feeling a way about Ed. I caught myself
Speaker 3: on like hey what.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, wait a minute, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't feel like that about it, you love it.
Speaker 3: I had to check myself and I was by myself
Speaker 3: in the car to check myself, and I thought checking
Speaker 3: myself wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: I had to like hit ed and say, Yo, you
Speaker 1: killed that interview. Wow, it was so good. And then
Speaker 1: hear him say to me, man, feel thank you so
Speaker 1: much for calling me so much to me.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh, I'll never make that
Speaker 3: mistake again because what was almost happening.
Speaker 1: It's like you have to cut that shit, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right at the root, because he probably didn't know how
Speaker 2: you were feeling either. He's probably like shit, probably just
Speaker 2: automatically felt guilty to you.
Speaker 1: Like for sure.
Speaker 3: I just use that as an example, but we've all
Speaker 3: been through that in different things at the job. But
Speaker 3: whatever people put you in, it's like if you don't
Speaker 3: check yourself, and then if you want to go further
Speaker 3: and actually clear the air, a lot of times the
Speaker 3: air feels better like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna lie let Lauren me over before me.
Speaker 1: I'm going live again. I oh no, damn what no shit.
Speaker 1: I don't hate upsy no, but damn no more live
Speaker 1: for you. No, no, no more, no more.
Speaker 3: Let's go to our bowl I r L bowl or
Speaker 3: our voice note which one? All right, let's do bowl? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, there's our I r L bowl. Question you
Speaker 3: can't go in. You've seen the pods, so you know
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to my favorite one after. But we'll
Speaker 3: save that for the end. Okay, damn what what can't
Speaker 3: figure out?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Because this one is what do people hope to learn
Speaker 2: from you? What do you think people can people know?
Speaker 3: I think people should learn. What do you hope people
Speaker 3: learn from you? Being yourself is never too much? Like honestly, like,
Speaker 3: it's not always beautiful, it's not always easy, it's not
Speaker 3: always pretty, but like.
Speaker 2: It's real, definitely real. But sometimes some people so emotional?
Speaker 1: What is that? What's happening? What are you thinking? Why
Speaker 1: is that? Why does that sting? Because sometimes you you
Speaker 1: can be too much or for people mm hmm you
Speaker 1: want to petition? You can we get a petition?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you you can be too much, right or
Speaker 3: people have told you that.
Speaker 1: I guess like, yeah, sorry, I don't make sure that
Speaker 1: your makeup is so good.
Speaker 2: I don't want to think you know, but not Sometimes
Speaker 2: you can be like too much for people, And I
Speaker 2: have been told that.
Speaker 1: Like like.
Speaker 2: Tone it down, like you you know that Baltimore can't
Speaker 2: come with you, which you mean that's what got me here,
Speaker 2: you know, like and second guess yourself a lot while
Speaker 2: you want to be known for who you are and
Speaker 2: staying authentic and just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being who you are.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes that's not always accepted right away by
Speaker 2: the people that you think will accept it. You know,
Speaker 2: like I've never been cookie cutter, never been over polished,
Speaker 2: and shit, I evolve for sure, elevating and evolution is beautiful,
Speaker 2: but like I will never lose my core and like.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot.
Speaker 2: Of my nose that I get like no, no, you're
Speaker 2: not good for this roller, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: It's because I'm a little I'm still a little rugged
Speaker 2: too much. Like it's you know, oh, she goes rogue
Speaker 2: if things don't happen her way, or she's from the
Speaker 2: same city monique from me.
Speaker 1: You see how that shit ended up.
Speaker 2: Like I actually have heard those conversations. I'm like, then,
Speaker 2: know Jada Pinkett, you see how she going around she
Speaker 2: on this book tour, she.
Speaker 1: Talking about she wasn't never happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn, these Boughtimore bites Manning, you know what,
Speaker 3: they put us all in the God that you know,
Speaker 3: But everybody's journey is different, everybody's everybody's different.
Speaker 1: Then oh my god, then you see Krishawn.
Speaker 3: It's like why everybody always gotta like it's like we
Speaker 3: constantly get it. Like, but.
Speaker 2: What I what I still want for people to learn
Speaker 2: from me, Like, yo, just be yourself. It may take
Speaker 2: you longer than you're expected to grow, right, don't change,
Speaker 2: grow get better with time like wine, Like even going
Speaker 2: back to my book, I got better, like from experiencing
Speaker 2: things and learning from myself and learning from my son.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's hard though I feel that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you are enough clearly. Yeah, that's not the problem.
Speaker 1: You don't think you're not enough.
Speaker 3: You think you're too much, or you're worry you're too much.
Speaker 3: That's your struggle, right, Am I too much?
Speaker 1: Right? But then what you're supposed to do mute yourself
Speaker 1: right with yourself. And I think that's what also I
Speaker 1: was going through in the breakfast club that I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to I mean that I'm just getting out of
Speaker 1: like am I too much, do I gotta I'm in
Speaker 1: my head asking all these questions and yeah, it'll get
Speaker 1: you every time, girl. Yes.
Speaker 2: And then Shar calls me. You know, Envy will call like, Yo,
Speaker 2: he was quiet? They was wrong, you know, And then
Speaker 2: Shar calls me. Yeah, Envy is always there with it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: He's a good soul. Yeah he is.
Speaker 2: Man, and Shar will call me and man, Shar is
Speaker 2: like a tough big brother but still a brother nonetheless,
Speaker 2: Like he's the type if you walk past him and
Speaker 2: you crying here, don't come around me all because I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna ask you what's wrong?
Speaker 1: You know. And then when we get off work, you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's going on? What's wrong? And don't be tough,
Speaker 1: like you don't gotta be tough. What's wrong? You know?
Speaker 1: You're quiet?
Speaker 2: What's going on? Where's your funny? Where are you? What's happening?
Speaker 2: Why you're not right? And I can tell what's going on?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That makes me feel better, makes me feel good, you know,
Speaker 2: cause these are like in my opinion, Oh geez, man,
Speaker 2: y'all been doing this shit.
Speaker 1: For so long. No, we didn't learn this.
Speaker 2: This is the way, y'all learned, but it's still hard,
Speaker 2: it still new, and it's like shit, it's like being
Speaker 2: thrown in you know. But what I do realize is,
Speaker 2: you know, to wrap it up like it's still other days.
Speaker 2: You know, it's always the next day, it's always tomorrow.
Speaker 2: If you don't get it right today, yeah you got another,
Speaker 2: got another day to get it right.
Speaker 1: And we just people try to try to wing, to
Speaker 1: try to wing with me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: We just people.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just heard somebody say that today about
Speaker 3: yesterday about somebody. Oh, we were talking about a friend
Speaker 3: of mine who's super successful and she just did something
Speaker 3: kind of nuts and one of our friends was like,
Speaker 3: what's wrong.
Speaker 1: You're human, right.
Speaker 3: You're showing you're showing that you're human because we all like,
Speaker 3: we're all just trying.
Speaker 1: Our best out here. By the way, you answered that
Speaker 1: question amazing. I know I think I did not. I
Speaker 1: didn't want it, but we didn't want it, but you it.
Speaker 1: You didn't want it, but you needed it. The damn
Speaker 1: bol will get you every time, right damn.
Speaker 2: And I was watching that so I'm like, shait, watch,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick a good question and I'm gonna ace
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 1: The whole time. I'm up this motherfucker crying. I know,
Speaker 1: but damn I ain't want to get all deep.
Speaker 3: Oh I was trying to hold it together because we
Speaker 3: can't move be here crying.
Speaker 1: You know how I felt that to him. We probably
Speaker 1: feel it too.
Speaker 3: It's like we all go through those moments where we're
Speaker 3: like somebody judges you or they want you to be
Speaker 3: a different version of yourself, and we're like, am I okay?
Speaker 1: Am I enough? Am I good enough? Am I something
Speaker 1: wrong with me? Like, even if we don't show it,
Speaker 1: we all have those internal feelings sometimes. And it's like
Speaker 1: you were just throwing in the fire. It's on overload,
Speaker 1: and so I feel you on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so proud of you that you are fighting
Speaker 3: and continue to fight through that things.
Speaker 1: So you're so worth it. Thank you man. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it cry against I know, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it though for real. Yeah, you're so dope.
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Speaker 3: go to our voice note. We have a voice notte
Speaker 3: segment here. You know this from the iralius. This is
Speaker 3: a listener or a fan show. Yes, friend, let's having it.
Speaker 4: Hi, Jess, I've been seeing somebody for almost a year now,
Speaker 4: and he's asking me questions about when he's gonna be
Speaker 4: introduced to my child. How do you know when it's
Speaker 4: a good time to introduce your new partner to your child?
Speaker 1: Good question? Yeah, that is a good question. I actually
Speaker 1: talk about this in the book.
Speaker 2: I because what I did, what I did, what I
Speaker 2: thought was wrong now looking back, I was introducing my
Speaker 2: son to everybody.
Speaker 3: Yes, girl, and it was like I'm who is Like
Speaker 3: my son was literally like who is this?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I'm And I wasn't even dating good guys, like great guys.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say they weren't great. They weren't great
Speaker 2: for him, my son.
Speaker 1: I was. I was dating selfishly.
Speaker 3: But were you introducing them as your boyfriend or just
Speaker 3: like my mommy's friend, Oh yeah, my friend like yeah nah,
Speaker 3: And a lot of them wasn't even around long enough
Speaker 3: to become boyfriends.
Speaker 2: But like I wouldn't introduce my son to ooh gosh,
Speaker 2: Like I feel bad even talk about it now, but
Speaker 2: I did do that. And when I'm at my husband,
Speaker 2: this is this is like the answer to the question.
Speaker 2: When I met my husband, I feel like I had
Speaker 2: went through all the bad seeds. I knew what not
Speaker 2: to do in this relationship, so I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: I asked him questions about because he wasn't a parent.
Speaker 2: I gave my husband his first child, so I was
Speaker 2: asking him like like how are you good? How are
Speaker 2: you with kids? How are you with conflict resolution? With baby?
Speaker 2: Daddy's Like, you know, have you ever dealt with somebody
Speaker 2: with a kid, because I know you don't have kids?
Speaker 2: Was how how was you brought up?
Speaker 1: Mark?
Speaker 2: You know, like does your mom and your dad speak?
Speaker 2: Do you speak to your father? Do you speak to
Speaker 2: your mother? You know what I mean? Like, just certain
Speaker 2: certain things and you'll be able to see rather quickly
Speaker 2: what type of person you did with, you know. And
Speaker 2: it took me like four months to introduce my husband
Speaker 2: to my my son. Although I knew I was gonna
Speaker 2: be with him before that, it was just a feeling
Speaker 2: I had. I still was very cautious approaching that meetup
Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, Ashton seen so many just clown
Speaker 2: ass dudes, Yo, come in and out. This one gotta
Speaker 2: be right because I can't keep doing the shit. He's
Speaker 2: gonna get older and he's gonna be like, all right, mine,
Speaker 2: yeah you tripping?
Speaker 1: Like what the hell you know?
Speaker 2: So to answer her question, you gotta get to know
Speaker 2: it is no time to put on it.
Speaker 1: Just when you feel.
Speaker 2: Like you've asked all the questions and you can see
Speaker 2: that he's a good guy, that that he or she
Speaker 2: is a good because you know, just for guys too,
Speaker 2: you gotta you really have to do evaluations these days. Man,
Speaker 2: it's like on a first on those first three dates,
Speaker 2: you got to get to know the person. Don't just
Speaker 2: be on the phone, please don't. Don't don't take pictures.
Speaker 2: Oh look where he bought me at, Like look he
Speaker 2: took me. Look you all I'm at Ruth Chris Like
Speaker 2: nah nah nah. Really get to know that man, especially
Speaker 2: if you've got children and you come as a package.
Speaker 1: You are a package.
Speaker 2: You have to realize, I mean, you have to approach
Speaker 2: dating as a package.
Speaker 1: And that's what I didn't do. That's what I learned
Speaker 1: what a good question is to get to know that man.
Speaker 2: Ooh, Like, how are you with your Were you raised
Speaker 2: in a two parent home? And it's okay if they
Speaker 2: if they, if they weren't, because just because you are
Speaker 2: raising the two parent house old don't mean you won't
Speaker 2: be fucked up. I know some fucked up people that
Speaker 2: have three parents in the house. It don't matter, you know,
Speaker 2: it's about what you're taught. Like morally, does this person
Speaker 2: align with you? You know, like me and my husband are
Speaker 2: equally yoked.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: We read the Bible together, we pray together. We like
Speaker 2: he asked me about my faith on the first date.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, do you have God?
Speaker 1: Asked me?
Speaker 2: Was I e an therapy? I was like, damn, Like
Speaker 2: do you think I'm I'm messed up? And he was
Speaker 2: just like nah, I just want to know, Like this
Speaker 2: comes from me just dating anybody. So I'm like, oh damn.
Speaker 2: So we both have done that. The difference is I
Speaker 2: got a kid, so I want to make sure you're right.
Speaker 2: So you have to ask about their parents, how they
Speaker 2: were raised, if they were raised by grandparents, what did
Speaker 2: they see? How how do they resolve conflict? Are they
Speaker 2: still the same person when they're angry? Because seeing somebody
Speaker 2: angry you kind of get to see, Okay, do I
Speaker 2: still feel like you love.
Speaker 1: Me when you're angry?
Speaker 2: How do you handle arguments like are you gonna try
Speaker 2: to hip below the belt so bad where I can't
Speaker 2: even I can't even come back from some shit you said?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because you're so busy trying
Speaker 2: to win the argument like all those things. You know,
Speaker 2: you got to evaluate these people, man, because making your
Speaker 2: own people.
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's really hard.
Speaker 2: That you got to approach that like more careful than
Speaker 2: you approach marriage, because marriage is in relationships and contracts
Speaker 2: and but parenting doesn't you know what I mean? That's
Speaker 2: like a life sentence that you that you know without
Speaker 2: the negative connotation like that, that's a life sentence that
Speaker 2: you do. You know, get to know the person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, questions, Jesse, good questions.
Speaker 3: Speaking of questions, let's go to our IRL questions in
Speaker 3: real life, Jess.
Speaker 1: When I walk in a room, I want people to
Speaker 1: feel I can relate to her. I can relate to her.
Speaker 1: She's funny.
Speaker 2: But Jess, Jess is she's so many different layers, she
Speaker 2: has so many different layers.
Speaker 1: I can relate to her. What's the last piece of
Speaker 1: great advice someone that's given you?
Speaker 2: Don't accept being canceled because you're not really ever can too.
Speaker 1: Don't accept it. As soon as you accept it, then
Speaker 1: that's when you start living.
Speaker 2: That that you're canceled. You can't be canceled. Just a
Speaker 2: few people mad in the comments that don't mean you canceled?
Speaker 1: Who told you that?
Speaker 2: Comedian Nate Jackson one of my one of my one
Speaker 2: of my good friends. Man, Like yeah, comedian Nate Jackson
Speaker 2: told me that, So, yeah, what are your.
Speaker 1: In real life pet peeves or triggers?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, Like, first of all, I don't
Speaker 2: like my husband will be so many I do not
Speaker 2: like when like now, I love little cute stuff him
Speaker 2: feeding me, but don't blow my food because then that's breath.
Speaker 1: Like I do not like when somebody blow their breath
Speaker 1: on your food.
Speaker 2: Like I don't even like doing that to my kids,
Speaker 2: like like, oh my gosh, like.
Speaker 1: You not blow your breath. What do you do on
Speaker 1: your birthday?
Speaker 3: I know, I don't even I don't even eat the cake,
Speaker 3: especially if the kid, Like if the kid look back
Speaker 3: look bad, I know they think, do not blow your
Speaker 3: candles out, and then think, my kid.
Speaker 1: Is gonna eat this cake? Because ill you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What is wrong with you? I do not know.
Speaker 2: I don't like that though, it is something about them, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, what happened?
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Don't blow my food? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: so funny. What is your real life superpower?
Speaker 2: Ooh, resilient. I'm resilient. I bounce back from you really
Speaker 2: do almost anything.
Speaker 1: What is something that you are still working on in
Speaker 1: real life. Hmmm, my delivery, my delivery. Oh that's a
Speaker 1: great answer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't change my accent, but I can work on
Speaker 2: how I deliver things. They can be very intimidating sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know, and I can say something and people will
Speaker 2: receive it more harshly because of how I deliver it,
Speaker 2: because you can you can come the same message, but
Speaker 2: it's different ways to say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my delivery. What do you pray for most?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, balance? Healthy balance with me being a wife, mom, comedian,
Speaker 2: stand up comedian, radio host. Now I'm live on Netflix.
Speaker 2: That's the worst thing to do is be live for me.
Speaker 3: Child, what I'm like, Damn Now if I'm mad, I
Speaker 3: just got to go in the bathroom, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just finding balance, like a healthy balance so
Speaker 2: I can be everywhere at the same time or try
Speaker 2: my best to be and be present right and be present?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, balance. How's that going for you? It's going.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's going, but it's going. I'm trying,
Speaker 1: really trying.
Speaker 3: What do you still want to accomplish? Like what is
Speaker 3: does have to be a bucket list thing? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: just something that you're still I.
Speaker 1: Want more people to know who I am.
Speaker 2: Like I've been doing this shit since I was well
Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen, so eleven years, like twenty fifteen. Yet
Speaker 2: like eleven years, and I still feel like I haven't
Speaker 2: scratched the surface and stand up comedy where everybody.
Speaker 1: Knows who I am, Like.
Speaker 2: You know, people people know of just celerious, people got
Speaker 2: an idea, A lot of people know me, But I
Speaker 2: want way more people to know who I am through
Speaker 2: my comedy. That's why I can't wait to drop my special.
Speaker 2: But it has to be special, that's the whole point
Speaker 2: of a special, and that's where I'm going to introduce
Speaker 2: who I am. I want the world to see that
Speaker 2: I'm funny as shit, talk shit. Just I'm really funny yo,
Speaker 2: like and and I give you that nineties raw feel
Speaker 2: of comedy, Like comedy is supposed to be limitless, and
Speaker 2: I feel like it can't be no a ceiling put
Speaker 2: on comedy, you know. And that's the best introduction to me,
Speaker 2: Like if all else fails, you know, Breakfast Club is
Speaker 2: gone or whatever is gone, this is going to take
Speaker 2: this away.
Speaker 1: The stage will always.
Speaker 2: Be there, like for me to go and stand up
Speaker 2: and make people laugh, like I'm a vacation away from
Speaker 2: people's work life, kids going through something, to your marriage, friendships,
Speaker 2: fucked up, whatever, Like I can.
Speaker 1: Make you laugh about I can make people laugh about anything.
Speaker 1: You've always been like that too, Yes, Yes, since a kid, Yes,
Speaker 1: since I was like seven. I will say that. My
Speaker 1: mom told me it was a funeral.
Speaker 2: My great great uncle was my mom's great uncle that
Speaker 2: passed away, and you know the wake, right when everybody
Speaker 2: walking down the line to see who's in the casket
Speaker 2: and all of that.
Speaker 1: And I was real cool with this uncle.
Speaker 2: And my mom said, I was like, why she was
Speaker 2: crying and saying her last words to uncle Reggie. I
Speaker 2: looked at my was like that Uncle Reggie, why is
Speaker 2: he great? Like that ain't who I saw alive the
Speaker 2: other day? And I'm like I was seven and eight.
Speaker 2: She was like yes, And I whooped your ass because
Speaker 2: I was crying. That was my favorite uncle and you
Speaker 2: made your cousins laugh and everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we in a goddamn funeral.
Speaker 2: She whooped my ass, but she said I knew that's
Speaker 2: when you were gonna be funny and courageous.
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn at a funeral, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, because you know,
Speaker 1: niggas died every day.
Speaker 2: But it's like, damn, if you if you can make
Speaker 2: somebody laugh at a funeral, oh you got it.
Speaker 1: Good, she must be proud.
Speaker 3: She is, she is, She's still be like you did
Speaker 3: not have to say that, but she'd be laughing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you and your son is showing signs
Speaker 1: of oh my god, yes, he a little too real.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I'm excited for what for for people
Speaker 2: to know who I am? Yeah, that more people to
Speaker 2: know who I am.
Speaker 1: All right, Our final question on I ral question? You
Speaker 1: know what it is? No what you said? You said now,
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be it's in the ball. But
Speaker 1: if if people if people.
Speaker 3: Don't pick it, I ask it anyway because it's my
Speaker 3: favorite question. If God were to text you, you know
Speaker 3: this question, what would it say?
Speaker 1: What would the text say.
Speaker 2: I did not tell you to do that. Shit, don't
Speaker 2: keep lying on me. I did not tell.
Speaker 1: You to do that. Ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what he would literally text me that, like
Speaker 2: a few times out the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I use God for everything, Like yeah, I like
Speaker 1: God moved me that. No I didn't. I didn't tell
Speaker 1: you to do that. No, don't lie, nigga, Like I'm
Speaker 1: telling you he how God told me. Yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: receive it just like that. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: He reads me and Baltimore, and that's how I feel
Speaker 2: like I've been receiving him, very baltimoreish.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, me and God got our old love language.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, nah, I know I f up. I
Speaker 1: fucked up. I know I did. I'm gonna just say
Speaker 1: it was because of you. For real. He's like, cut
Speaker 1: it out, yep, like for real, get your together. Just
Speaker 1: hilarious and real life. Yay, this is just hilarious and
Speaker 1: real life. Hey guys, thanks for watching.
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