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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday. That means it's time to enter the Thursday Thunderdome.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, our special guests will compete alongside my

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Speaker 1: co host Professional Sports Better Mr. Lonely Heart's Simon Hunter

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Speaker 1: in an epic test of wagers, and with that's quickly

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Speaker 1: made this show the most celebrated contribution to the sports

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Speaker 1: betting universe since the three team teaser. What's up, Simon?

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Speaker 1: What a great couple of days it's been for your boy?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to share? I'm probably not going to

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Speaker 1: talk about women and more of their show because it's

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Speaker 1: come back now and haunted me in a major way,

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Speaker 1: and I'm getting rid of all my worthy possessions and

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Speaker 1: I've taken all my cash everything. I have cleared out

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Speaker 1: all the bank accounts to all the lock boxes, and

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Speaker 1: I put it all into crypto and the stock market.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I woke up probably down like a hundred fifty

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Speaker 1: right now recording this and buying back in and crypto

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Speaker 1: and the stock market stadium, I'm probably like three so

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Speaker 1: kids when it's red, you buy when it's green, you

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Speaker 1: buy more. Are you serious that you you did that yesterday? Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's the oldest saying in the book is the old

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Speaker 1: men they sell when it's red, the young man buys

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Speaker 1: when it's red. I love the stock market. I love crypto, dude,

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Speaker 1: like literally, I think it was trade in bitcoin got

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Speaker 1: down to um like thirty five and now it's up

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Speaker 1: But those coins, all of this other stuff, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all it all moves and waves, but the stock

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Speaker 1: by crypto. Oh Jesus Christ, listen between your financial advice

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Speaker 1: and your dating advice. I feel like this is the

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Speaker 1: opposite of what people should be doing if they want

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Speaker 1: to find love, happiness, and security. Let's see, you know

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm about. You just drop that right there,

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Speaker 1: that you just walk away. I like that. I am

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Speaker 1: about companionship, I am about respect, I am about love.

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Speaker 1: I'm about fulfillment. I already made my risk. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the risk. You know what the risk is. The risk

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Speaker 1: isn't getting married. The risk is in dedication. That's the risk. Simon. Today,

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Speaker 1: your challengers come to us from the Jenkins and Jones Podcast,

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Speaker 1: one of the funniest, and this is true, one of

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Speaker 1: the funniest and most beloved NBA podcasts anywhere, presented by

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Speaker 1: our friends and colleagues at the Volume podcast Network. In

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented move, Simon, you will face the entire Jenkins

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Speaker 1: The first is a Ted Lasso and Megan the Stallion

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Speaker 1: Stand if you don't count Bradley Beale and Jayson Tatum.

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Speaker 1: He's the most influential St. Louis native in the NBA today.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, le Jet Throw Jenkins a k a.

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Speaker 1: John Nichols. Have we talked about my St. Louis roots? No,

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Speaker 1: we haven't. Let let's talk about those. Not only not

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Speaker 1: only is my mom from St. Louis. Not only is

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Speaker 1: my half of my family from St. Louis. My grandfather

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Speaker 1: back in the way, way way back day and played

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Speaker 1: football at Washington University. In St. Louis. Your mall was

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Speaker 1: James Cool Papa Bill. He's a Negro League Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: That is a much bigger accolade than my grandfather playing

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Speaker 1: Grandmother lives off the street. Name to him always he's

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Speaker 1: Uncle James. Meat's go on to our next guest. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited for you. Cool Papa Bell sounds a

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Speaker 1: little bit better than Babe Goldwasser. That's fine, alright, it

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Speaker 1: was really good at Also, Also, by the way, he

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Speaker 1: taught Jimmy Connor's mother how to play tennis. And you

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Speaker 1: know who taught Jimmy Connors how to play tennis, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Connors how to play tennis. I'll give it to you. Simon.

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Speaker 1: Your second challenger is the latter half of the Jenkins

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Speaker 1: a decade growing and cultivating one of the most cherished

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Speaker 1: handles in all of the Twitter Verse. Welcome Dragonfly Jones

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Speaker 1: a k A. Tyler appreciate Do you have anything that

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Speaker 1: Congrats to your grandpa, man. I'm sure he was a

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Speaker 1: It was more about my connections to St. Louis. It's

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Speaker 1: Now probably not so much, all right, So, I mean

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Speaker 1: your final challenger is the straw that stirs the drink

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Speaker 1: on the Jenkins and Jones podcast, the president and inventor

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Speaker 1: gonna say with me, but really with Matt Mitchell. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the five best ad read guys in podcast history.

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Speaker 1: He's the pride of Long Beach, California. Mike Guarda Bacio

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Speaker 1: going on, guys, thanks for having us well, I was

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have you guys. Now, it is not a competition, man,

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Speaker 1: It's exactly a competition. That's the whole point. It's the Thunderdome.

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Speaker 1: It's a game, and I get to choose who wins. Now,

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Speaker 1: I got three people I want to win and one

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Speaker 1: guy I want to send back to St. Louis. I

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Speaker 1: love your grandpa. Sounds cool, bro, Thank you. He's been

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Speaker 1: dead for about thirty years, but he would appreciate this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Here's how the game is played today.

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Speaker 1: You'll answer two kinds of questions. First, traditional trivia questions

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Speaker 1: about sports, sports betting, and the world at large. Second,

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Speaker 1: completely subjective, totally assinine, open ended questions or prompts that

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Speaker 1: I alone will judge and an all likelihood try to

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Speaker 1: favor my best friend, Simon Hunter accumulate points. You must

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Speaker 1: answer the trivia questions correctly and also convinced me that

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Speaker 1: your responses to those open ended prompts are better than

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Speaker 1: the responses from your opponents, because, just like sports betting,

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Speaker 1: you can't get them. All right, I can't fucking believe

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Speaker 1: your uncle is really cool? Pop about. I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 1: My family lives off the street named after for sure,

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Speaker 1: let's start. Part one is about the NBA Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: The next induction class of the Basketball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: about lesser known honorees. John, This question is for you.

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Speaker 1: Cotton fitz Simmons got his NBA coaching start in this city,

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Speaker 1: the Mountain time Zone. Mountain time Zone. That's the worst

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Speaker 1: what is even that question, Cotton fitz Simmons. I thought

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Speaker 1: might be. It's very possible. Okay, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Tyler. John totally did not

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls delivered Michael Jordan's his final NBA title. That

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Speaker 1: Basketball Hall of Famer. Tony Ku, coach of Croatia, was

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Speaker 1: the most impressive answers we've had in the history of

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Speaker 1: the Thunderdome. Well he Thunderdome Tyler, that's what we call him.

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Speaker 1: as the Cliff Cleaven of this podcast. Mike ben Wallace

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Speaker 1: the NBA's only Congolese Hall of Famer, the Key the

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Speaker 1: School scout Howard Garfinkel will be inducted into the Basketball

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Speaker 1: vacationing Northeasterners. You're ask me about the Appalachian Mountains? Are

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Speaker 1: awful trivia. I've chad tries to cheat and I've yet

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Speaker 1: Mike you were going into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Simon,

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Speaker 1: you were going into the sports betting Hall of Fame. Simon,

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Speaker 1: you get to go first. I'm new to the whole

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Speaker 1: Twitter world for the gambling, and I've never experienced anything

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Speaker 1: like the amount of hate we get so little back story.

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Speaker 1: Me and Chad went five and oh last year to

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Speaker 1: And I've learned my lesson that when people are coming

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Speaker 1: in real hard on me about one thing that I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: I need to double down on my bets. So I

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Speaker 1: who are you not thinking? Twitter? Yeah, they're the worst.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You Chod Tyler. You don't

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Speaker 1: hate me, Tyler your next um. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: And if you had asked me that question, I was

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Speaker 1: have a picture of Jerry Rice. That's my favorite football

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Speaker 1: player of all time. Oh yeah, I'm a Well guess

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Speaker 1: what you're getting this question? Are you ready? In Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: answer to the question? Or is that part of the

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Speaker 1: setup that is the answer to the question. Babe Ruth. Well,

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Speaker 1: got to be listening. You've gotta be listening for what

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Speaker 1: the actual question is, because you're getting it wrapped in

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Speaker 1: a very very special package. Here's the prompts for this section.

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Speaker 1: During a long career, star athletes often switched teams, but

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Speaker 1: If you could make any star athletes signed with their

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Speaker 1: biggest rival next season, who would you choose? If the

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Speaker 1: goal is to create the maximum amount of chaos? All

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Speaker 1: three of us have the same answer. Answer, John, you

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Speaker 1: go first, Steph going to the Lakers? Are you fucking

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Speaker 1: kidding me? Do you know what that would do to

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Speaker 1: those Silicon Valley nerds? At least eight people would spontaneously

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Speaker 1: combust at their fucking Apple computer. Bro, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? That would create absolute chaos and do like,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing more ridiculous than that, Steph and Bron Steph

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Speaker 1: leaving the Babe for the Lakers, Dog, no doubt, step

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers? You think would create a y two

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Speaker 1: k event in the state of California. Humans would explode

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Speaker 1: on the spot. Twitter would lose a percentage of its

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Speaker 1: user base from Warriors fans being like, I'm not sticking

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Speaker 1: around for this, bro, I'm sucking out. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what we would do, Dog? We would burn them at

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Speaker 1: the state You feel me? Online? Bro? It would be small,

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Speaker 1: I would I'm salibating thinking about this right now. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. Alright, Simon, I want to hear of Tyler

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Speaker 1: and Mike agree. But by the way, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be where their connection to each other, their camaraderie, their

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Speaker 1: commitment to their podcast comes to a test, because do

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Speaker 1: they want to win the Thunderdome or do they all

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Speaker 1: want to know I forfeit my point. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: the point up to John. John has a perfect answer

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Speaker 1: that question. Wow, alright, Simon, what's your answer? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I want, Simon, there is one answer. There's

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Speaker 1: one answer I thought of that could be better than this,

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Speaker 1: that kind of a brand. I went with Ronaldo coming

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Speaker 1: back to the Spanish Premier League and going to play

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Speaker 1: with Messi. If he went to Barcelona, Dude, that would

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Speaker 1: be a world thing. The whole world would explode because

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Speaker 1: that would literally create pure chaos across the country. All Right,

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Speaker 1: this is tough because I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to the Bears that that was actually my answer. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really like I don't most football fans wouldn't be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Packers fans are invested in that. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: like your average Seahawks fan wouldn't be like, how could

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Speaker 1: like every basketball fan would be furious as that, and

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Speaker 1: not even just basketball fans, your average fucking accountant would

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Speaker 1: be like, that doesn't already watch basketball? Would say this

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Speaker 1: is why I don't watch basketball? Like what? Would be mad?

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Speaker 1: That aren't even fans of the game? Bro? You know

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Speaker 1: Atho Ronado teaming up with Messy would be the same show.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a world would literally break out. Let

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Speaker 1: me refer to the previous question where a fan through

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Speaker 1: the head of a pig at a player who had

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Speaker 1: left his team. They'd be throwing elephant heads on the

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Speaker 1: field and ship what. Here's how we're gonna answer. Look,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I gotta, I gotta give it to

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Speaker 1: sign I got all right. So here's the score going

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Speaker 1: into the final round the Grand Finale. Tyler's at four,

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Speaker 1: Mike's at four, John's at three, Signmons at three. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and the topic in the Grand Finale is coaches who

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Speaker 1: could ball first? Each of you have to decide how

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Speaker 1: many of your points you would like to risk. So

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Speaker 1: Tyler and Mike you have four points to risk, John

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Speaker 1: and Simon you have three points to risk. Please, this

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Speaker 1: is a very high tech system. Please close your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Now hold up your fingers with your wager amount. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Bill Russell will be inducted into the

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Speaker 1: Basketball Hall of Fame this year as a coach, becoming

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Speaker 1: only the fifth person ever inducted separately as a player

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Speaker 1: and a coach. The first to achieve such an honor

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Speaker 1: was this man, the first player to be named a

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Speaker 1: college basketball All American three times. He went on to

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Speaker 1: become one of the greatest coaches in the history of

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Speaker 1: team sports, with a dominant team throughout the Johnson and

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Speaker 1: Nixon presidencies. Who was the first person inducted into the

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Speaker 1: Basketball Hall of Fame as both player and Coach's play

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Speaker 1: rain all Day, No got jobs, some said the first

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Speaker 1: person inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame as both

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Speaker 1: a player and a coach. Tyler starting with you, I

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Speaker 1: wagered four and my answer is John Wooden. Amazingly, Tyler

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Speaker 1: got the right answer and he wagered four. He now

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Speaker 1: is eight points Mike Europe. Next, I answered John Wooden,

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Speaker 1: and I'm also Mr. Double Down. I also wagered four points. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to bet invisible money. John. I went against

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Speaker 1: my normal way of operating and betted at the bet

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Speaker 1: the farm. You feel me, and I said, would Wow? Alright,

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Speaker 1: So now now we got Tyler at eight Mike at eight,

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Speaker 1: John and six. I know Simon bet everything, and I'm

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Speaker 1: almost positive he didn't know this answer. Yeah. Literally have

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Speaker 1: not got one of these questions. Right, I think we've

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Speaker 1: been doing it for three months, I said Jerry West.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. I was just like some old

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Speaker 1: white guy, let me just pick. But it was the

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Speaker 1: wrong old white guy. You were close. You had the

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Speaker 1: right age and ethnicity. Also the right first two letters. Amazingly,

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Speaker 1: not that I wanna, you know, bring it back to

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Speaker 1: me at the end of my podcast. Uh, just to

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Speaker 1: win John Wooden also my great great grandfather. That fact.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's no but come on, you put that big

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Speaker 1: joke on the table as soon as the cool pop.

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Speaker 1: I had the script. I had the script. I knew

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Speaker 1: when I could bring it back. But for a second,

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Speaker 1: did anybody believe me? Simon did one second? I was shook.

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Speaker 1: I was just like what Chad's an athlete head would

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Speaker 1: have filled up more of the screen. Yeah, that's big,

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Speaker 1: big years all right. Well, right now Tyler and Mike,

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Speaker 1: you guys both have eight points. So for the second

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Speaker 1: time ever in the history of the Thunderdome, we have

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Speaker 1: to institute the Thunderdome playoff. Matt Mitchell, take us away

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Speaker 1: to successfully complete the Thunderdome Sudden Death Challenge, and in

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Speaker 1: honor of your two favorite states, please add up these

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Speaker 1: two numbers. The individual who comes closest will be declared

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Speaker 1: the winner. The first number is the total number of

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Speaker 1: Utah Jazz well Stern Conference championships. The second number is

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Speaker 1: the state of Indiana's rank in joining the Union. In

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Speaker 1: other words, Indiana was the blank state out of fifty.

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Speaker 1: That number plus the number of Utah Jazz Western Conference

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Speaker 1: championships let me know when you guys are ready. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty much ready. All right, Tyler, you go first, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know for sure that the Jazz have to Western

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Speaker 1: Conference championships. They're going to two finals. Their whole week

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Speaker 1: gas um history. Now, Indiana, when they became a state,

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to say, they look like

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Speaker 1: a state that probably came aboard around twenty two or so.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty two and two. I'm gonna rollout

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Speaker 1: from Tyler, Mike. I am going to take the under

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Speaker 1: and go wow, because because I thought they would be

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Speaker 1: like I gonna be person on the prices you try,

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Speaker 1: and I got twenty three and day, hey Man, that's

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Speaker 1: some Utah Jashhi gotta say, where are you? Jas Man

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Speaker 1: might have been right, well, but now think about it.

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Speaker 1: Now think about it because I'm giving Tyler twenty four

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Speaker 1: through fifty two, right, and I'm taking We know they're

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Speaker 1: not one of the original nine, so I'm taking ten

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Speaker 1: to twenty two. What is the answer? Tyler was correct

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Speaker 1: in that the Jazz have two titles. Indiana was the

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Speaker 1: nineteenth state. The answer is twenty one. And Mike's disgusting

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Speaker 1: display of one dollar bob Wow, Wow, he took the

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Speaker 1: jet ski from me on prices right by putting a

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Speaker 1: dollar on top of my ship. Crazy, unbelievable. You know what.

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Speaker 1: I did not see Mike doing that that there's so

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Speaker 1: much money on the line. I'm just trying to feed

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Speaker 1: my family, you know, like it's it's all. You got

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Speaker 1: two kids out here. Tyler was describing his thought process,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to go, stop, don't describe your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was, I was. I said I would

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Speaker 1: get a guest twenty two, so I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel too bad about I only move my my answer

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Speaker 1: by one. Mike doesn't feel bad about it, all, right,

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Speaker 1: do you know, you know who we can blame for

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Speaker 1: Mike's dirty, dastardly deeds and the way he plays my

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Speaker 1: absent father, his father. Yo, what a com back. That's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's Chad just sis there nodding his head. That what. Listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: you have played valiantly and courageously and everyone in the

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Speaker 1: Thunderdome appreciates it. Before we sign off, here's a word

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Speaker 1: from our fearless leader, Action Network CEO, Patrick Keene. Shut up,

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Speaker 1: shut up, shut up? Thank you? All right. I do

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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody from the Jenkins and Jones podcast

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Speaker 1: from the Volume podcast Network. This has been the Favorites.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Tyler, thanks to John, thanks to Mike, thanks

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Speaker 1: to my bff Simon Hunter. As a reminder, the Volume

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Speaker 1: is now on YouTube. We've got new stuff up there

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Speaker 1: every single day, including clips and interviews from all the

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Speaker 1: network shows. Subscribe to the Volume YouTube channel at YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com, backslash the Volume rate and review the show

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Speaker 1: on Apple podcast download and listening on Spotify. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you Tuesday on the Favorites. Love you,