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Speaker 2: The game plan is you have to push up on him.

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Speaker 2: So when you do push up on him. They was

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Speaker 2: So it was like hard to guard him and he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got me a couple of games with this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and everybody I pressed stuff on it. I just sold

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Speaker 2: Let me go back Patria bust my ass first game

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, but Summer League when I first got drafted,

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Speaker 3: We had to come all the way to age time

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Speaker 3: to give my nineteen ninety eight classmate. Brethren, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You're a young boy. You don't know

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Speaker 3: about this. This McDonald's game ninety eight. This is the

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Speaker 3: NBA World champion. This is the Seattle Supersonist, all time

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Speaker 3: try fector three point shooter right here. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm bad.

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Speaker 3: We can't forget that because he did that. Then he

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Speaker 1: You born in Louisiana, Yeah, how you get to Houston, Man,

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Speaker 3: All at what point did you really really started hooping?

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Speaker 1: Some of them players and teams that you was running.

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Speaker 2: We played in the tournament down in Kansas. Don't know

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Speaker 1: Who are some of the people that you watched coming up?

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Speaker 1: But you're saying it was like, well, of.

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Speaker 2: Course I was a Houston Rockets fan, Cameologia one, you know, Kennysmith, Maxwell,

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Speaker 3: Do you remember going to cause you were Adidas guy

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Speaker 3: you know, we became Nike. He was still a Didas,

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Speaker 3: Like we talked about that parade, But do you remember

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Speaker 2: Man, I can remember because going to the DDAs camp,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Tracey McGrady went there, and that's why

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Speaker 2: McGrady went there. He you know, he did this, did that,

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Speaker 2: SO i was, like, man this kid is. Unbelievable BUT

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Speaker 2: i wanted to go be Like tracy McGrady because he

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Speaker 2: went pro and that was my. Motivation back. Then they

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Speaker 2: also had The Magic Johnson Roundbowl classic that's An adidas. Game.

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Speaker 1: Right y'all didn't have the US a.

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Speaker 3: Man look Remember Eric brody tried to fight him because, look.

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Speaker 2: He ain't play. Nobody you, know you played like him.

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Speaker 3: Out they was going high, school so they was they

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Speaker 3: curry And Jason caple and forget whose play but he

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Speaker 3: like everybody didn't.

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Speaker 2: Play everybody, remember was, mad everybody you, fight ready to

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Speaker 3: Game tried to fight him because we got the part

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Speaker 3: of the thing was we went to The final four

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Speaker 3: In San antonio where it was like you ain't SEE

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Speaker 3: i forget everybody was. There but that was When stack

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Speaker 3: and She, Yeah stack And she was, there so were sitting, there, like, bro.

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Speaker 2: He tried to. Fight Very barker was hot and he

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Speaker 3: The, time you Know Ronald curry really he went on

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Speaker 3: to play, football Like Very barker was the better. Basketball

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Speaker 3: but let's no, shame no, hate none of. That but

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Speaker 3: like you, know he bark was. Nice he was for

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Speaker 3: him to get, there and, like like who didn't play?

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Speaker 2: US i was, like oh, boy that's WHY i think

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Speaker 2: sometimes a lot of politics in the, game you know

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Speaker 2: What i'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, LOOK i GOT i was a late add. On

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Speaker 3: remember to McDonald somebody pulled out of. SOMETHING i had

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Speaker 3: a good McDonald's, game SO i added to. That but

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Speaker 3: like he, said dark whiskey man with the box and

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Speaker 3: we nobody knew who he was came in with the

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Speaker 3: box and got thirty four and next thing you, know he.

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Speaker 2: Going to the draft AND i think he was playing

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Speaker 2: center that. Game he, was but bring it up the

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Speaker 2: court one legged jumpers and they beat. Us as they beat,

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Speaker 2: us didn't?

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Speaker 1: They, yeah they beat.

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Speaker 2: US i think we lost that game yet they BEAT

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Speaker 2: i can't, remember but they beat. US i know THAT.

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Speaker 3: I was like one, too like a mental roller days

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Speaker 3: delete for me BECAUSE i didn't get to, play so

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Speaker 3: it was LIKE i was checked out of, it like,

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Speaker 3: man this, week like this is my first little experience.

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Speaker 2: With especially being one of the top players in high.

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Speaker 1: School what made you go high? School like who told

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Speaker 1: you or what was your process honestly making the.

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Speaker 2: DECISION i was gonna go to college BECAUSE i heard

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Speaker 2: rumors THAT i can go out of high, school, Bro

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Speaker 2: BUT i didn't know IF i would be able to

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Speaker 2: go in the first. Round and then you, know going

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Speaker 2: in the first, round going the second, round you're not

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Speaker 2: guarantee the. Country SO i was, LIKE i didn't believe the.

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Speaker 2: Rumors and then we had we played one of my

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Speaker 2: high schoo games against Hay, stinks which is our rival

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Speaker 2: school school that's right across the. Street And i'm warming,

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Speaker 2: up going through the warm up, line and, everybody you,

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Speaker 2: KNOW i just hear whispers and stuff going on because

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Speaker 2: the gym is crowded because their. Arrivals and THEN i

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Speaker 2: go to the, bench go to the, huddle and they everybody's, like,

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Speaker 2: yo that's Don nelson underneath the, basket big tall dude

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Speaker 2: standing under in the. Basket AND i had no. Clue

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Speaker 2: i'm just kind of a kid getting ready for the.

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Speaker 2: Game SO i looked under the basket and he big

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Speaker 2: tall and he's just standing there Like i'm.

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Speaker 1: Just, like, damn.

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Speaker 2: Okay so maybe it is true, there MAYBE i. CAN

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Speaker 2: i do have a chance to go. Pro BUT i

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Speaker 2: went out, there played the, game had a good, game

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Speaker 2: AND i think after that game been done actually coming

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Speaker 2: to the, game that's WHEN i was, like, well MAYBE

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Speaker 2: i do have a chance or an. Opportunity because everything

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Speaker 2: you heard back then was rumors because you can't talk to,

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Speaker 2: agents you, know you can't talk to. Coaches everything was

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Speaker 2: it was illegal to do that type of, Stuff so

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Speaker 2: everything you had to hear you heard it from somebody,

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Speaker 2: else and that's what made you make the. Decision, well

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Speaker 2: WHEN i then it started getting down to where WILL

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Speaker 2: i go in the, draft you, know BECAUSE i don't

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Speaker 2: want to just be one of those guys that don't

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Speaker 2: make it into the. League so WHEN i started getting

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Speaker 2: rumors that your top fifteen, pick you're going to be

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Speaker 2: in a, lottery and they actually when they invite you

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Speaker 2: to the, draft that's when you know you going at

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Speaker 2: least in the first round if it's not top, fifteen

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Speaker 2: if it's the last pick in the first, round but

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Speaker 2: you know you're going in the first, round and the

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Speaker 2: first round is guaranteed. Contract So i'm, Like, okay IF

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Speaker 2: i can get guaranteed contract AND i can be a

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Speaker 2: top fifteen, Pick i'm definitely going into the. Draft but

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Speaker 2: we all know it didn't happen that way.

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Speaker 3: By the, time BECAUSE i don't remember when we got

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Speaker 3: to the McDonald's. Game you hadn't made your decision, yet, Right,

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Speaker 3: no at what point did you, decide like, okay or

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Speaker 3: did you already?

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Speaker 2: KNOW i remember the McDonald's. GAME i didn't. START i

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Speaker 2: came up the, bench BUT i THOUGHT i played pretty.

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Speaker 2: WELL i had like seventeen eighteen. Points but when the decision,

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Speaker 2: came it's during The Magic Jompson Round bowl class BECAUSE

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Speaker 2: i got THE mvp of the, game went out there

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Speaker 2: in the ball AND i got the m V. P

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Speaker 2: SO i was, like, man MAYBE i can make. It you,

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Speaker 2: know MAYBE i can't test the waters and go to THE.

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Speaker 2: Nba but Those All star games was my. Decision after

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Speaker 2: playing those, GAMES i want to see WHERE i was,

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Speaker 2: at because you, know when you're younger PLAYING au, ball

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Speaker 2: you're playing against the top, talent and those two games

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Speaker 2: you playing against top. Talent AND i wasn't as good

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Speaker 2: WHEN i was, younger AND i improved over the years

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Speaker 2: and got better by the TIME i came to senior

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Speaker 2: and performing in those two games at a high level

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Speaker 2: WHEN i THOUGHT i, WAS i was competing very. Well

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Speaker 2: that's what kind of made my decision to go ahead

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Speaker 2: and make that.

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Speaker 1: Jump did you feel like you was the best player

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Speaker 1: in your? Class that's WHY i feel LIKE i was

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Speaker 1: one of the best. PLAYERS i.

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Speaker 2: WANT i don't want to SAY i was the best

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Speaker 2: player BECAUSE i knew what was out. THERE i knew

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Speaker 2: was a MONSTER i played against. Me he was a,

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Speaker 2: beast he was a. Bag he Dream rush was a,

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Speaker 2: beast you, know, Seriously.

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Speaker 3: BUT i who went straight out with, YOU i Was

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Speaker 3: harry finished on the top two guys and Fifty Cory

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Speaker 3: Richard jefferson was our.

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Speaker 1: Class we got one of the best. CLASSES.

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Speaker 2: A harrington was the only one that went in the first.

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Speaker 2: Round actually he went in the first. Round me And

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Speaker 2: on went the second round late first. ROUND i know

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Speaker 2: he went To. Detroit you want to remember those first

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Speaker 2: say Second Al harrison was the first high school. Player

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Speaker 2: he was like twenty three or twenty. FIVE i know

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Speaker 2: that for sure BECAUSE i like the second.

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Speaker 3: ROUND i can't vividly remember sitting there because AFTER i

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Speaker 3: left night, camp because me AND i was like kind

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Speaker 3: of co MVPs a night. Camp so After Nike, CAMP

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Speaker 3: i had the little whispers, about you, Know scouts or.

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Speaker 3: WHATEVER i remember going we went to a tournament In.

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Speaker 3: COLUMBUS i remember Coach Butler Likery butler called me to

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Speaker 3: the room and telling me that like NOW i went back.

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Speaker 2: To the room to see. That they're, like, Yo i'm,

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Speaker 2: Out you're a. Kid you just laughed.

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Speaker 3: Out but like that was that period where it was

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Speaker 3: like this was becoming the. Thing it's like they was

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Speaker 3: really putting the, spot like like looking at, dudes AND i.

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Speaker 2: Was LIKE i left Night.

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Speaker 1: CAMP i was, like, yo my process this was like

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Speaker 1: kind of different than that because it was the guys

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Speaker 1: used to come to the. Game it usually wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the coach or nothing like that because we In Saint

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Speaker 1: louis ain't no really teams or nothing around, Now but

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Speaker 1: it'd be just guys that's representing the team that held

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Speaker 1: the polos on the with the logo. On BUT i

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Speaker 1: committed before my senior, year playing my senior, year so

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Speaker 1: one you had already. Committed, YEAH i committed To Saint

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Speaker 1: john's In, november so wasn't no college is. Coming so

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Speaker 1: every time it was a guy with a, polo it

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Speaker 1: was always AN nba, Team so they WAS nba Teams

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Speaker 1: i'm seeing in every game all.

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Speaker 2: Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah but my college, coach Like Mike, jarvis was like

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Speaker 1: instrumental and telling me like, yeah BECAUSE i was saying

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Speaker 1: like because of your, SITUATION i was saying, like, man,

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Speaker 1: YEAH i ain't going Unless i'm top, thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Right because you only slip into that second.

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Speaker 1: Round, yeah AND i didn't want to slip it to

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Speaker 1: that second. Round you. Know it feels, like, man you

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Speaker 1: damn never missed your.

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Speaker 2: Chain, right and then not not only, that when you

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Speaker 2: the rule was once you get an agent and into the.

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Speaker 2: Draft ain't no going back to. School going back to.

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Speaker 2: School that's WHY i had tears in my eyes at the.

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Speaker 2: Draft i'm thinking about. It i'm a kid that's never

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Speaker 2: been out of the. States, hey you took me to

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Speaker 2: these other. Cities ain't no WAY i can go out

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Speaker 2: of the. COUNTRY i don't. KNOW i barely know how

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Speaker 2: to live on my. Own i'm under my mama's.

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Speaker 1: Wing how was your like your? WORKOUTS i mean workouts you, do.

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Speaker 2: MAN i worked my tail off WHEN i especially WHEN

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Speaker 2: i went that second, round and you, know we had. To,

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Speaker 2: honestly it was the YEAR i got. Drafted there was

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Speaker 2: a lockout right after the. Draft that's what really helped

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Speaker 2: me because the draft really shot my confidence down to the.

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Speaker 2: Ground it hurt. ME i ain't gonna, lie but going

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Speaker 2: back home and having those couple of months to kind

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Speaker 2: of revamp my. Confidence and you know a lot OF

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Speaker 2: nba guys lived In houston. AREA a lot of them

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Speaker 2: came down here to. PLAY i, Comeber Sam, cassell you,

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Speaker 2: Know robert Or nick Van nessa or the list go.

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Speaker 2: On Damian jones's list goes on as THE nba players

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Speaker 2: THAT i worked out with AND i build confidence every,

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Speaker 2: day you, know playing with these. GUYS i was already,

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Speaker 2: athletic but it was all about the confidence at the

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Speaker 2: time and working on your. Game AND i built that

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Speaker 2: conference every. Day and then ONCE i, lockout ended flew

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Speaker 2: To seattle and we had about a week before practice,

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Speaker 2: started so we're playing pick up. BASKETBALL i went out

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Speaker 2: there the first day played pickup, basketball just on some

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Speaker 2: hustling up and, down rebound and tipping the, ball doing

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Speaker 2: role player. STUFF i came back the next day to

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Speaker 2: play another pickup. Game the coach and the general man

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Speaker 2: to call me in the, office SO i didn't know

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Speaker 2: what was going. On they called me in the office

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Speaker 2: and they basically told me we're gonna give you a

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Speaker 2: two year minimum. Deal. MAN i started. CRYING i called

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Speaker 2: my mom on the, phone, Like, mom well you KNOW

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Speaker 2: i made. It that gave me a. Contract but this

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Speaker 2: is all before camp. Start Because i'm. NERVOUS i got

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Speaker 2: grown MEN i gotta go against to try to make the.

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Speaker 2: Team you, Know i'm. Skinny we don't lift waist in

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Speaker 2: high school like they Do, Bro SO i WAS i don't.

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Speaker 2: ALLOW i was. NERVOUS i was, scared BUT i put

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Speaker 2: the work in BEFORE i went to, camp AND i

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Speaker 2: think that's what really helped me build my confidence.

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Speaker 3: Up tell me what it was like to go, through

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Speaker 3: BECAUSE i can vividly remember you going, through being in

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Speaker 3: that green room And i'm sitting there Like i'm a

431
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Speaker 3: peer of you as a. Classmate i'm, like, man this is,

432
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 3: crazy like LIKE i was forever.

433
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 2: Fear of food from.

434
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 3: That, like tell me what that was like for you

435
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 3: to sit there and go from where you thinking you're gonna.

436
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 3: Be you know who knows the lottery, Pick, well definitely

437
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 3: not where you. Went but it's like to be the

438
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 3: last person, there everybody, gone and it's like you with

439
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 3: your feel like and this is your. Dream tell me

440
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 3: how tough it turns your dream into what.

441
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 2: Felt like my dream was being shattered right in front

442
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 2: of my eyes at the. DRAFT i WISH i was

443
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 2: at home watched the. DRAFT i wanted to be at

444
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: home that whole. Time and, then like you, said everybody

445
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 2: was out of the green. ROOM i was picked to

446
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 2: go top fifteen. Pick i've had a team tell me

447
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,640
Speaker 2: if you dare WHEN i would pick, Come we're gonna take,

448
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 2: you but we don't think you're gonna be, there, Right

449
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 2: so that's basically telling, me oh, Yeah i'm lottery right

450
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: in that green room and all these names getting called

451
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: and nobody in, there and to get to that last

452
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: couple picks in the, draft AND i already know you

453
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 2: have to try out for the team when you go

454
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: in the second. Round before it even got to that

455
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 2: last pick in the first, ROUND i got up off

456
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: the table and win the restroom BECAUSE i remember THAT

457
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: i got to win the restroom BECAUSE i didn't want

458
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: to cry in front of the, cameras in front of

459
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: everybody at the, table my, agent my, mom or. Family

460
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 2: SO i walked to the restroom AND i just kind

461
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: of let it. OUT i just started, crying broke down

462
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 2: a little bit BECAUSE i felt like my dreams been

463
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 2: shut right in front of my eyes as a, kid

464
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: as a, teenager come out of high.

465
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: School SO i can.

466
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 2: Remember somebody came running in the. Restroom you about to get,

467
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: Drafted you about to get. Drafted come, Out come. Out

468
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: So i'm in there trying, to, like you, know clean myself,

469
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: up trying to wipe my. Tears but you can hear my.

470
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: Voice you go back and look at the, draft you

471
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: can hear it in my voice from the. INTERVIEW i was,

472
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: remember So i'm trying to clean my face up and they're,

473
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: like you, know he's already in the second round with

474
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: the second round sea the super sounder selector shaw. Lewis

475
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: SO i got my, HAT i go out there and

476
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: shake the hand and they gave me an, interview BUT

477
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: i felt LIKE i couldn't. Talk you, KNOW i was

478
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 2: kind of stuttering and you can hear. IT i was

479
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 2: crying in my.

480
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: Voice it was emotional.

481
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: Moment BUT i can remember the one THING i told

482
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 2: them in that interview was my heart bigger Than. Texas

483
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: i'm gonna find the Way i'm gonna. Survive AND i

484
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: found a.

485
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: Way oh, yeah LIKE i got something that worked When

486
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: BUT i honestly that motivated.

487
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: Me man Through gas ain't on. Fire it motivated me

488
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i felt like everybody kept, saying you're not gonna make,

489
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 2: it you're too, skinned and you're too, smart you, this your,

490
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: that AND i just wanted to prove everybody. WRONG i

491
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: think it was proven. WRONG i relate like me and

492
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: him sitting there the same. Draft obviously you saw like

493
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: AND i felt like eighteen, LIKE i ain't go you,

494
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: know as low as you winning like, That AND i

495
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 2: didn't get to that. Point but LIKE i, was seez.

496
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: IT i was.

497
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 3: PISSED i was looking at every person like the only

498
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: person that was even getting any type of pass for

499
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: going before me was. Him he was the only person.

500
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: Out like, MAN i was sitting out Like i'm better than, him,

501
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: Right i'm better than? Him who is? He i'm better than?

502
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: Him like, nah like you.

503
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 3: Listen THEN i had to play the role, because like you,

504
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: said like you playing over in my mind and saw

505
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: Like i'm not about to. Cry i'm not about to do.

506
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: THIS i got to make sure my family staying, post

507
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: So i'm faking. IT i got the camp caught, up

508
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: being all, extra made sure my, pause my sister them.

509
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Good but like, bro that was like.

510
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: The only thing That southage, did like you, said like

511
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: when What southage did was Like i'm going TO la

512
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: with my, dog were about to funk ship, Up like

513
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: that was the one thing that You WHEN i came to,

514
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: back WHAT i said to you was like, man because

515
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: he KNEW i.

516
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Was he's like, man y'all say, no we're. GOOD i,

517
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: said we're, good and that's when they got a shaken

518
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: up on.

519
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: Camera in the, BACK i was like BECAUSE i was,

520
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: HOT i was sitting there and it Was Memo. PI

521
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: i went before him and he went he was the

522
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: last one in, there AND i was just, like he

523
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: better than these. Dudes like it was like we got

524
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: discredited for being not freshman or not coming out of

525
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: high school because that was. Hot then he was a.

526
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: JUNIOR i was a. Sophomore they felt like y'all stayed too.

527
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: LONG i was looking like we just munched everybody though

528
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: in the workhouse LIKE i did like eighteen, workhouts, Bro

529
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: like y'all ain't gonna none of that don't.

530
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: Matter they were telling, ME i was top. FIFTEEN i

531
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: had a good McDonald's. Game you know What i'm. Saying

532
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: they tell ME i was talking matter fo you start

533
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: talking about you was the.

534
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: Truth he was a. Player came. Out when you came, out,

535
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: man you was different from. Everybody you know, What, Flowers

536
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: you was a whole different, player. Man BUT i had.

537
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: To prove that, though like coming, in you know What i'm,

538
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: saying THAT i can play with these.

539
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: Guys when he was even wondering is he talking about?

540
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 2: Something you, know it's my year to come. Out i'm in.

541
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 3: College he's supposed to be the Sad i'm watching him

542
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: in the state finals is Quadruple quinn tucking.

543
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Up i'm, saying what were you talking?

544
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: ABOUT i, SAID i, said Everybody i'm already talking, to

545
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: already talking about like. This you a lot of relations

546
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: about you went To boston and got him went, Crazy

547
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 3: AND i, say you is exactly what they talking about right.

548
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: Now you you the hottest. Thing you're, right, boy he was.

549
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Hot you had to play in them workouts like who's?

550
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: Something the Workouts you had to play against like them,

551
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: College remember WHO i was playing.

552
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: Against BUT i can say that the workouts was hard for. Me,

553
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: yeah BECAUSE i didn't go to. College we don't live

554
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: waits in high. School we don't want hours. Straight, yeah

555
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: we don't do none of, that like when they put

556
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: me into and BUT i got in shape to go do.

557
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: THEM i THINK i worked out for about fourteen. Teams.

558
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Man they had me out there, grinding. Man BUT i

559
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: wanted to put the work in SO i can show

560
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: THEM i can. Play but the workouts was. Hard the

561
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: court was, bigger three point line was. LONG i was

562
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: breaking threes like you wouldn't know how many THREES i

563
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: missed doing those. Workouts actually becoming a good three point

564
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: shoot in the league BECAUSE i wasn't used to shooting those.

565
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: Threes everything was it was. HARD i, mean the full,

566
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: court one on one, drills the medicine ball. Rebounded, wait

567
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: the stress, TEST i hopped off the man, LIKE i

568
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: can't do.

569
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: That he did and he did zero bench.

570
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: PRESSES i couldn't get it off your.

571
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Ball B, really, MAN.

572
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: I didn't get it off the ball like.

573
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: That. Me thomas did like eighty like he was always.

574
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: Stronger that's WHY i like playing against, him because he

575
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: knew how to use his. Body not only he can,

576
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: shoot he can, score but if you're trying to a little, bit.

577
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: Do knew how to use HIS i, did LIKE i

578
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: don't remember that LIKE i, did like twenty is something

579
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: on the bench Per but each, time, bro you know

580
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: how you see some people as soon as they lifted

581
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: you already not like he look he, said.

582
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: We was.

583
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: LIKE i was, like, DAMN i got that bug out the,

584
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: BOY i, SAID i feel it. HEAVY i asked you this,

585
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: though he.

586
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: Said one of the teams said if you there there

587
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: at this point Was. Houston one of the teams they.

588
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Had they had, three.

589
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: So, like tell me like BECAUSE i had a team like.

590
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: That it was like you you're going to, like how

591
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: do it feel when that team that told you that

592
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: it don't? Happen, man and you think this is like you,

593
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: know we, KIDS i think they don't have at home

594
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: and it's The.

595
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: Cris it was. Heartbreaking, Man i'm not gonna. LIE i

596
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: remember the pics that year we'reson. Turkeline was this guy From,

597
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: Turkey Drew Michael. DIXON i Think catino went in the second,

598
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: round But Michael. Dixon Michael dixon was a great. Place

599
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: he was paying. Out that was a good pick up for.

600
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: Them but the other, two you, KNOW i kind of

601
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: AND i can remember after being in the league for two,

602
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: years two or three, years he's always come back home

603
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: and we would train at The rocks Pacte. Cite that's

604
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: where we play pick. Up and he was in gym one.

605
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: Day BOY i went at his.

606
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: Neck BECAUSE i took.

607
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: It you.

608
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: Know it was going, on, boy come, here, Boy i've

609
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: been looking for. You you you in my, position you

610
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: in my. Spot you know What i'm. SAYING i. WAS

611
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: i was waiting on him AND i had my day

612
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: that day.

613
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: In the, League like what year or what time was

614
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: it when you you felt LIKE i can really play

615
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: on this. Level not ONLY i can play on this,

616
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Level i'm one of these boys on this.

617
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: LEVEL i would say my second year in the, league

618
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: when we H i wasn't the. Starter you, KNOW i

619
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: would come off the, bench probably play five ten minutes a.

620
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: Game but close to the end of the, season one

621
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: of the small fours got, injured SO i started playing more.

622
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Minutes and this is getting closer to the. Playoffs AND

623
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: i probably averaged four points during the. Season it's nothing,

624
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: big but we. Played then we got into the playoffs

625
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: and we had somebody, injured SO i was. STARTED i

626
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: didn't play it start as, minutes BUT i started in

627
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs in the first round Against Utah, jazz which

628
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: we lost in the first. Round BUT i THINK i

629
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: averaged fourteen. Points and it was all off of being

630
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: a role, player you, know running rebound and getting offensive,

631
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: rebound scoring hit to open three when you Know gary

632
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: or somebody got the ball and they getting double, tea

633
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: hit open, three and probably played twenty. Minutes BUT i played.

634
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: HARD i played with a lot of, energy and that's

635
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: WHEN i was, Like, okay MAYBE i can. Compete and

636
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: you know me going off of being in the second,

637
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: ROUND i only had got a two year, deal so

638
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: that's The sonic sign resigned me back for a three year.

639
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: Deal SO i was, like all, RIGHT i find Now i'm.

640
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: In Now i'm in THE. Nba now let's work off

641
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: this three year and continue to get better every year

642
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: and try to do it again after this three year contract.

643
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Up but it was about my second year of the

644
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: league when we played The Utah jazz in the first,

645
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: ROUND i averaged fourteen points AND i think that was

646
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: like my coming out part of being THE nba. Player

647
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: how was it for? You you all?

648
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: Right you out, here so you get, drafted and then

649
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: you get To seattle and now you Got Gary payton

650
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: as a, teammate.

651
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: And then you Missed what was you late? For the

652
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: first give us the introducing To Gary payton lockout. In

653
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 2: this is BEFORE i play that first pickup. Game lockout. In,

654
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: uh we're flying To, Seattle Ben jeline and. McCoy we

655
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: staying at the. Hotel shout. Out they sent the, trainer

656
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: one of the staff, members to come pick us up

657
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: an hotel which is right down the street from the.

658
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Facility he ends up taking the wrong turn going to

659
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: the practice. Facility where we're playing pick up at and

660
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: we probably fifteen minutes late getting, there so we walking. On, yeah,

661
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: yeah you know how it's so we walk, In uh

662
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: they already. Playing they didn't already started. Playing and by

663
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: the time we walk, In Gary peyton dribbling the ball

664
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: up the. Court as soon as we walk, in he

665
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: stopped in the middle of the game and he looked at,

666
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: us you, mother and just start going, OFF i mean

667
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: cussing us completely. Out didn't say what's, up young? Fella

668
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: how you doing none of? That you? Motherfuckers lay y'all

669
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: ain't y'all ain't y'all got to be here on. Time

670
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: y'all got to be here before. Us and we both

671
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: pointed to the dude that picked us up and brings

672
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: it's like he was late as his. Fault he, SAID

673
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: i don't get but DAMN i have my. Homeboys come

674
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: pick y'all. Up y'all got to be here on. Time

675
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: y'all gotta be here before. Everybody the last person to

676
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: leave off the, COURT i, mean just cussed us, out

677
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: AND i was. Scared i'm, like oh, shit so you

678
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: better believe every PRACTICE i was there an hour and

679
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: a half. EARLY i made, SURE i was on the

680
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: court thirty forty five minutes early BECAUSE i didn't want

681
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: to get cused out by gearing. Paid but back then

682
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: that's how we. Was you, know as young, fellas we

683
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: couldn't come running in ten minutes before practice. Start you

684
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: better be on that court getting shots up because sometimes

685
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: that might be your. Game you, know training the two on,

686
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: two three on three scrimmage at each other before the,

687
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: game that's your game because you might not play in the.

688
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Game so you get your work, in doing, practice, all

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: doing the foremost before the.

690
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: GAME i was waiting on him to say any word

691
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: when we played and when we played j'all in. Preseason

692
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: soon as we get on the, court he instantly, talking

693
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: and he talking the whole.

694
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Game. Man that was when he got like ON.

695
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Tv, yeah remember, season preseason he got to it with K.

696
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 2: D the first. TIME i was, like, yo this is not.

697
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Real like that's how he. Is he intimidates, you. Boy

698
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: he likes to. Talk he likes to get under you

699
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: get in pre game he went for thirty on. Us

700
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't Let George carl take him? Out remember he was like,

701
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: NO i was, like he was Albab that's THAT'S, gp

702
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: the ultimate, competitor ultimate Competitive.

703
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: When you Got Rey, allen what did you learn FROM

704
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: gp that made it easy to adapt To Rey allen coming?

705
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: In and then gave me that thick, skin you, know

706
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: like of taking him talking ship to, us you, know

707
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: especially when we're. Scrimmaging he don't like. Losing that's the

708
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: one thing about. Him even if he, lose he's gonna

709
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: talk ship to you like he didn't. Lose BUT i

710
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: think he gave me that thick skin of you, know

711
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 2: don't take no shit from, nobody or don't even worr

712
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: about because he ain't gonna do nothing to. You you

713
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: know What i'm saying is just all. Talk just continue

714
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: to go out there and. Play but WITH gp IS

715
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: i learned to be a. Winner when you step in

716
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: between these, lines you give it all you, got don't

717
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: come out here play half ass. All he gonna let

718
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: you know that's what you're. Doing AND i learned how

719
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: to play, hard extremely hard when you're out, there because

720
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: if you, didn't he's gonna tell you ain't playing. Hard

721
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: and then when they made that trade for him and,

722
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: reyality you, Know jesus shutters where we were so young

723
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: at the, time where he would sit in the locker

724
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: room and. Talk we was all. Ears we would listen to.

725
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: Him but that's when my work had to. CHANGE i

726
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: REMEMBER i bought my First psycho bike because of. Him

727
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: we start used to train with him doing the. Something

728
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: we would ride up and down the bridge In seattle

729
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: and ride around just to. Train to work. Out we

730
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: would go to the field and do some, sprints and

731
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: he told me to be An All, star you gotta be.

732
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Consistent it's okay with having bad, games but make sure

733
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: you get back on your game that next. Game you

734
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: gotta be, consistent and you gotta. Whatever what you do

735
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: outside the court is how you. Perfer i'm on the.

736
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Court SO i learned those little things from him and

737
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: the way he. Working we watched him we were, young

738
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: but he would beat everybody at the gym on game.

739
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: Day this guy is out there getting shots up while

740
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: they trying to set the scoreboards up and all the

741
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: table by time we arrived to the, gym and we

742
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: the young, players so we got to beat there. Early

743
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: by the time we arrived at the, gym he in

744
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: his locker reading the. Book he then already got shots.

745
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: Up at the. Game he already out. There he already

746
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: changed my whole my whole get down.

747
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Game like REMEMBER i get. There he was trying to

748
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: beat the visiting team out there before y'all get out.

749
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: There this is What i'm telling you this WHEN i

750
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: WHEN i saw, that that's what changed my whole thing

751
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: moving forward like that was like maybe old oh, two

752
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: probably oh two o three when it really locked in for,

753
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: me like.

754
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: Bro like he was like the dunk squad trying to

755
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: do dunks and the squad.

756
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: OKAY i see. You and then it was like it

757
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: was two, fold was LIKE i get. It you set

758
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: on the table like you here, first you working, hard

759
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: but like, ALSO i don't got to worry about nobody

760
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: being in my, way, RIGHT i get any type all

761
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: of my. Stuff ain't no balls bounce and knocking me

762
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: out the, way none of.

763
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: THAT i was like, Cool like after, THAT i did

764
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: that for the rest of my.

765
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Career i'll be there right like you said when dance

766
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: squad doing, That like AND i told him when we

767
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: had him on, HERE i, TOLD i, SAID i, told.

768
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: YEAH i. Did luke Ridden now all of us we

769
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: took a lot of things from him that kind of

770
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: actually helped us in our careers because he's a true.

771
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Professional he's a guy that you would like want to

772
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: follow and listen to because you're gonna leave you the right.

773
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Way you, know some guys in the locker, room they're

774
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: not true. Leaders some of them is more selfish than

775
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: anything and all about. Theirself BUT i was lucky enough

776
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: to play with some guys that was true leaders in,

777
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: that AND i think that's what helped me coming in

778
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: as a. Teenager you, know you need a good. Leader and,

779
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: UH i can honestly say who else took me? Under

780
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: They Wiking Debtler. Shrimp he was only there for a

781
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: year when of my rookie, year but he was going after.

782
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: That but he was one of those guys that doing

783
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: scrimmages and practice like we didn't have a legal defense

784
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: and three seconds and the. KEY i didn't know none of,

785
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: that and so he would always every TIME i messed,

786
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: up he would pull me aside and let me know

787
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: What i'm doing wrong and tell me what to. Do

788
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: and he was helping. Me SO i really appreciated, him you,

789
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: know kind of taking me on this wing and helping

790
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: me BECAUSE i was batting against him playing the three.

791
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: Position but he was a, lot, bigger. Stronger you, Know

792
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: dellis was a nice basketball, player but he was kicking

793
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: my ass to. Practice but he also showed me WHAT

794
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: i was doing wrong after he kicked my, Ass SO

795
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: i learned a lot from him as.

796
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: Well when shit started rolling for, y'all like well you

797
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: And Ray, yeah like y'all killing like record? Good like

798
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: how was that season when it thought everything is working? Right? Right?

799
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: Man that so much? Fun unbelievable season because we're coming

800
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: off of season too where we didn't make the, playoffs

801
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: were one of the worst teams in the league to coming,

802
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: back and, honestly that, year we had a good, season

803
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: played The clippers of the, game won and got beat.

804
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: DOWN i remember y'all beat us by like fifteen or.

805
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: TWENTY i don't know how much by, it But Nyman

806
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: miland tore into us after that game because y'all just.

807
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Embarrassed he to into it so, bad and we went

808
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: on a win street by time we was twenty games

809
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: into the, SEASON i think we was like nineteen and,

810
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: two nineteen and. One we went on a crazy. Tear

811
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: it was us in Like Phoenix suns that was at the.

812
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: Top, no, no see that's where, yeah when you just said,

813
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: that you made me flash, back like we neither one

814
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: of us Were.

815
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Clippers then we. Won, clippers y'all went with. CLIPS i was,

816
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: okay BUT i can remember game one The clippers beat us.

817
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: Down so maybe that was was Will cox with The.

818
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: Clippers he was still, There, okay Will, coox it was

819
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: still with The. Clippers he was still. There do you?

820
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Remember and what was that we played? In was It?

821
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: Japan we played In? Japan we played them In. Japan

822
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: first two games of the, season first two games of the.

823
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: Season that's When Rey allity was herst. Game first was he?

824
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: Hurt that's When Flip murray? Played Remember ray didn't.

825
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Play first. Game Flip murray went, Crazy yeah you have

826
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: like forty, SOMETHING i want to, say like.

827
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: Thirty but he balled second game and he was a

828
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: surprise because nobody knew who he. Was nobody knew who it.

829
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: Was and then second game he hit.

830
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: Fifty kept all a little fifty In.

831
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Japan i'm, well did you do the greedy with?

832
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: Me?

833
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah we.

834
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: Did we.

835
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Did we out there doing a greement In japan and

836
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: Hal COURT i ain't knowing this mother about to turn

837
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: around here us for.

838
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Fifty, Bro this was was. DUMB i Think leave was our.

839
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Coach then Don't leave was passed. Man you know them

840
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: games where this balls just going in every time you

841
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: put it. Up, boy and we was. Over we was In,

842
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: japan but this man put fifty. UP i was sitting there, like.

843
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Look ALL i could say was, LIKE i ain't get

844
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: none of. THAT i ain'tett none. THAT i had to play.

845
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: THREE i was playing. TOO i was planning. TOO i

846
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: ain't getting none of. IT i was sitting there, like.

847
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Yo Don levy was, like you, know like people don't,

848
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: know But dunley was a Real he was, like.

849
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: The fuck are we? Saying anybody could just scre? FORTY

850
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: i was LIKE i was sitting there like LIKE i,

851
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: mean but it was just like it just started becoming,

852
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: there the little. ANNOUNCING i was, like.

853
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: You know What i'm, saying, boy fifty second game, yeah game.

854
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Two but that, come LIKE i, said that came from

855
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: putting the work in on the summer With, ray training With,

856
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: ray AND i was ready to. Hoop you. KNOW i was,

857
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: LIKE i never made The All star, team SO i

858
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: was trying my best to make The All star team that.

859
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: Year but like he, SAID i THINK i only had

860
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: like twenty four. SHOTS i was like nineteen for twenty.

861
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: FOUR i was making, everything AND i can remember in

862
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: the fourth QUART i had forty. Seven SO i was,

863
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: LIKE i want to get. FITTED i want to get,

864
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: fifty you know What i'm. Saying SO i got the.

865
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: BALL i came off for a three pointer close to the.

866
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: BENCH i don't even know who was guarding me at the.

867
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: TIME i just grabbed it and turned around and just

868
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: shot the. Ball. Nothing but as soon as it hit the,

869
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: NET i told coach take me. Out, coach take me.

870
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Out and when they took me, out they started playing

871
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: fifty cent. SONG i remember to this day they started

872
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: playing and they start paying a, yeah. Cracking first time

873
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: ever scoring fifty in my. LIFE i ain't never do.

874
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: That in high, SCHOOL i got to, forties BUT i

875
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: ain't never scored fifty in my.

876
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: Life AND i ain't gonna lie like that was like

877
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: the first TIME i was like, yo being part of these,

878
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: that like you, know THE nba, games like out of the, Crunk, Like,

879
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: yo this is, Ill, like but tell, them, bro like

880
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: we was getting treated like presidential over. There they was

881
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: having big boy dinners and that like everything you did

882
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: was like the biggest thing. Happening and then the crowd

883
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: you're talking about soup like a renta bigger than THE nba,

884
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: arena and.

885
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: That thing was.

886
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Packed crazy, team but it was, stupid like that was

887
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: the first time because you, know we ain't like in THE.

888
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Nba we hadn't done nothing like.

889
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: That had been overseas with THE usa Team nike and,

890
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: stuff but like not on NO nba.

891
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: Level but were all there and we're doing. This it was, Like,

892
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: yo that thing was a movie because usually overseas games it's.

893
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: Preseason, yeah that was actually first time season one of

894
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: the first time they counted for like real Regular, see

895
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: we playing back to back was like a couple of

896
00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: days in.

897
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Between he was over there for like a. Week. Yep

898
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: but ACTUALLY i think we started camp earlier that year

899
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: because we had to go over there to. Play we

900
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: started earlier and everybody else kind of started a week

901
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: later because we had to come back home and they

902
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: gave us a couple of days off before we can adjust.

903
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: Back To, yeah what was it like when you first heard?

904
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: It you was fingna be An All? Star?

905
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: MAN i was so, happy a sign of joy because

906
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: for me come in second round to not playing my first,

907
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: year to coming off the bench my second, year then

908
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: starting in the playoffs but still not getting a lot of.

909
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: MINUTES i just felt like the hard work is finally paying.

910
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Off and THEN i give a lot of kudos To

911
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: ray And they, McMillan Dwayne, casey those guys really kind

912
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: of helped me push me along to get to that,

913
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: level Especially Dwayne casey and they. McMillian those two, guys you,

914
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: know they saw a young kid come to that organization

915
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: that was scared and didn't know what he was getting himself.

916
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: Into and they also took me under their. Wing SO

917
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: i remember a couple of times in PRACTICE i got

918
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: into it With geary the other guys and wanted to,

919
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: quit LIKE i don't you, know this is not for,

920
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: Me but they kept pushing, me kept pushing, me was

921
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: working my tail. Off they would even come To houston

922
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: during the summer to work, me bring me back To

923
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: seattle make SURE i was. Training they obviously saw something

924
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: in me THAT i didn't, see and they kept pushing

925
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: me AND i ended up making The All star. TEAM

926
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: i Remember nate telling us that shoot around in, morning

927
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: he was, like you talked to anybody YET i was,

928
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't. Know it was, like, WELL i want

929
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: to tell you made The All Star. TEAM i don't.

930
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't THINK i cried that, time but it

931
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: definitely was almost like tears of joy to, finally you,

932
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: know make That All star, team because it's something THAT

933
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: i really dreamed of AND i wanted to, accomplish especially

934
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: coming from WHERE i come. From being in the second,

935
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: ROUND i was almost like proving everybody wrong that SAID

936
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: i couldn't make.

937
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: IT i was the experience, though like the, Weekend like you,

938
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: an it was.

939
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: FUN i was excited about the, experience BUT i was

940
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: nervous when that game came. Around i'm my first shot

941
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: hit the sided the. BACKBOARD i can remember my first

942
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: job had the side of the. BACKBOARD i was so, nervous.

943
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: Man but it's like like you, said it was a.

944
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: Learning it was learning from those guys been there. Before

945
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: they was, experienced so they was at that just hooping

946
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: hit the side of the. Backboard but after hit the

947
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: side of the, BACKBOARD i kind of got into the,

948
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: game started playing. Better obviously wasn't Starting AND i can

949
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: remember my First All star game In, washington D. C

950
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: i want to say it's my second year of the.

951
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i was just in a three point. CONTEST i

952
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: wasn't playing allSome, game nervous first three point side of

953
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: the backboard BEFORE i kind of got into. It it's.

954
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: Different it's not like we were you there for three point.

955
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Contest we were there as rookies for the rookie.

956
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Game.

957
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: Nervous but IN, dc, right, yeah, yeah, yeah it was

958
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: our first. Year but speaking on three point, contest tell

959
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: people how what that pressure feel like when you go

960
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: sit on that little block and they you know you're

961
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: about to be up. Next you did what you did

962
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: ONE i did three years.

963
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Too especially with the first three point contests IN. DC

964
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: i didn't practice for. IT i was just, THOUGHT i

965
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: was go out, Here i'm gonna knock him, down do.

966
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: Whatever AND i did. TERRIBLE i got eliminated in the first.

967
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: Round but that second WHEN i was a little bit more,

968
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: prepared a little bit more of a. VETERAN i was more.

969
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: Seasoned but it's totally different from a, game and the,

970
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: game of, course you, know catch and shoot three point,

971
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: contests all eyes are on. You you're the only one

972
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: on that. Court oh. Man that's probably when he decided the,

973
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: backboard but all eyes are on you and this nerve,

974
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: wracking not on the cameras in your. Face everybody's watching.

975
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: You it's totally different from being a three point shooting the,

976
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: game totally. Different like the night and. Day hey, LISTEN

977
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: i say that all the.

978
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Time that pressure and nobody else messing you up and

979
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: nobody throw your bad was all on, you all on.

980
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: You after you you made The All star, team how

981
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: was your? Confidence Like i've been playing against you and

982
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: then you made That All star. Team you came back

983
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: the next, Year, well your whole. Swagging it was like

984
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: run for, you D, Miles i'm gonna get the shots

985
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: up they coming to.

986
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: ME i was getting the shot AND i was getting the.

987
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: BALL i was the, confidence and you, know just like

988
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: the conference was.

989
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: Through the, ROOF i was, LIKE i felt LIKE i

990
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: was going to automatically be An All star getting that,

991
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: year but it actually was a lot, harder you, know

992
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: because people obviously know who you. Are you got A

993
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: scout report on, you and you, know it was a

994
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: lot tougher for. ME i didn't make The All star that,

995
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: year AND i was upset BECAUSE i think it came

996
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: To houston that year AND i wanted to be at

997
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: home playing Then All Star, game but it was definitely

998
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: a lot. HARDER i didn't make Another All star team

999
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: TILL i got To, orlando and not only, that you,

1000
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: know with me Making All, STAR i wasn't getting voted

1001
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: in or wasn't a. Starter so your team had to

1002
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: be winning ball. Games you can't be one of the

1003
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: worst teams in the league and make The All star.

1004
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: Team so for guys like me coming off the bench

1005
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: And All Star game you, have your team has to

1006
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: be winning in order for other Renew Ray allen was

1007
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: gonna make. It but if you're not, WINNING i probably

1008
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: if we weren't one of the best, teams the, leader,

1009
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i probably don't make. It somebody else. WOULD a

1010
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: good team probably would have made. It SO i was

1011
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: lucky to also make the. Team but we had a good.

1012
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: Team tell me what it was like when you got that.

1013
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Call the oldest was about to bag you out man

1014
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: backing up. BRING i didn't even believe it when he told, me,

1015
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: though honestly BECAUSE i went to visit them WHEN i

1016
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: first WHEN i became free, agency know the free agency,

1017
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: CAME i met with The Seattle Super hunters. FIRST i

1018
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: gave them first. Meeting they came To, houston they gave

1019
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: me what they wanted to offer, me AND i didn't,

1020
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Say i'm not gonna SAY i didn't like, it because

1021
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: it was a nice, contract BUT i was, like you,

1022
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: know we had already had plans that wanted to visit

1023
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: like two or three different. Teams SO i was, Like,

1024
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: okay thank, you we'll get back to. You i'm going To,

1025
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: orlando you, know, tomorrow and then we'll get back to

1026
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: you guys and let you know within a week or,

1027
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: so Because i'm going to visit couple teams and let

1028
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna. Do went To, orlando visit our,

1029
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: oldest went out to, eat went to. DINNER i Think

1030
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: jamiro came. Out Jamil nelson stamp that's the same year

1031
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: The Highest stand ban gun and he came From. Miami

1032
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: he came out to eat and we just kind of just.

1033
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Talked we ain't talk numbers of, nothing and we just

1034
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of just talked about what they, had what they would.

1035
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Offer you, know they wanted me to come and be

1036
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: a part of D White, House Jamial nelson and everybody.

1037
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Else and then we walked outside of the restaurant run

1038
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: and it was kind of me and him talking and

1039
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: everybody else kind of was to the, side and he told,

1040
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: ME i need. YOU i, SAID i need you to.

1041
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Commit AND i know because you, KNOW i Think Elton

1042
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: browann went back on his. Car he got a, contract

1043
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: SO i don't know it Was Elton, brown but somebody

1044
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: went back on they contract and didn't want to go

1045
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: there no. More so he was, LIKE i was When

1046
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: elton was going To Golden state and he and then he, went,

1047
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: yeah it was that's what it. Was but he was,

1048
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: LIKE i need you to, commit and he stuck his hand.

1049
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Out he was, like let me give you the max

1050
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: AND i was like, Commit, like but we didn't know

1051
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: what the number was at the. Time we was thinking

1052
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: it was gonna be like around eighty five ninety million.

1053
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: Cap and then they came. BACK i came back the

1054
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: next day and the cap came out and there was

1055
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: like a hundred and. Something So i'm, like AND i

1056
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: think he even was, like, DAMN i ain't know it's

1057
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: gonna be that, much you know What i'm. Saying but

1058
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: it was too, late you, know we didn't already kind

1059
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: OF i. Committed we shook hands and everything was history after. That,

1060
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: man you're talking about dreams come true and happy Calling

1061
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: mama crying. Again but, look right AFTER i signed that,

1062
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: CONTRACT i didn't even go back home To. HOUSTON i

1063
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: jumped on the, plane went straight To, miami, separated call

1064
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: The hobies, up flew them all. Out we have a

1065
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: tire hotel top. Floor, man we definitely celebrated getting that.

1066
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: CONTRACT i feel like.

1067
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: It's appropriate for me to ask my money question at this, point, like,

1068
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: LOOK i don't you know we usually.

1069
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: WHATEVER i know you took care of.

1070
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: MOM i know my fake what about, It but, LIKE

1071
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: i don't know what young SHAW i did for himself

1072
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: to treat. Himself LIKE i have seen some of your toys,

1073
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: now just, say, like you, KNOW i.

1074
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: KNOW i love. Cars you know What i'm. SAYING i

1075
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: was into toy but that was my first TIME i

1076
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: finally got a chance to get The bentley Or Rose,

1077
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: royce you know What i'm. Saying you see playing In

1078
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: seattle With geary and all these other guys that got

1079
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: the big, contrasts not only, them but anybody even they

1080
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: got the big. Contract you see him pulling up in big,

1081
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: calls and you're, like, man that called my. Contract you

1082
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: know What i'm. SAYING i can't get, that BUT i

1083
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: was able to kind of get The bentley at The

1084
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: rose was my first was The rose Washing. Boy it

1085
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: was a big, car probably didn't look too good in,

1086
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: it BUT i. WAS i was splurging high, MAN i.

1087
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: WAS i was it to go from it rained every

1088
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: day to the beautiful. Weather and.

1089
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: That's funny you said, that because. Beautiful the funny you

1090
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: said that because my first year Into, seattle my rookie,

1091
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: year it broke a record for how many days it

1092
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: rained in a. Row you. KNOW I, oh it was

1093
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: just like. That it was always, gloomy dark, rain that

1094
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: rain all.

1095
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Day it rained some part of the day in in

1096
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: the middle of the day or at.

1097
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Night it was always right. Rain and and that first

1098
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 2: year it was, LIKE i won't SAY i was, depressed

1099
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: BUT i was lonely BECAUSE i was by myself as a.

1100
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: TEENAGER i didn't you, know AFTER i was, EIGHTEEN i

1101
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: couldn't go out hang out with the. Guys they grown

1102
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: me and they, drinking they had, families they doing they.

1103
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: Things SO i would kind of go home and try

1104
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: to look for something to, do go to Mac, hands

1105
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: get something to watching movies on the phone all day

1106
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: next telephone two thousand dollars cussing me. Out you know

1107
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: What i'm, Saying i'm getting on because my bills so.

1108
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: High but the second, year all, that the second, YEAR

1109
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: i brung one of my, pots my boys out there

1110
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: THAT i grew up, with went to high, School Travis,

1111
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: escers and it just made life a lot more easier

1112
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: just to have somebody to talk, to play video. Game

1113
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily going out hanging out and doing that.

1114
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: Stuff it's just coming home to have somebody that knows

1115
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: you're familiar with, you you can go to the movies

1116
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: with or talk to them me and doing good or

1117
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: doing bad and just kind of had that camarodie of

1118
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: somebody there for. You it just made life a lot

1119
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: more easier for. Me and it helped me on the

1120
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: basketball court BECAUSE i was happy off the, court and

1121
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: it helped me form on a basketball court.

1122
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Moves that started a. Movement you're not the first stretch, four,

1123
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: right you know What i'm. Saying when you Were, seattle

1124
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: you played a lot of, three you, know but when

1125
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: you got To orlando.

1126
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: Moved to the.

1127
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: Four you moved to the, four and you had a

1128
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: whole lot of success at the four because you like,

1129
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: me were tall enough to play the. Four but in our,

1130
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: era we can't go down there with you, know we're

1131
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: too skinny to be fighting them big boys like so

1132
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: we gotta live and that when we came right, Right

1133
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: but now you, know it's times was kind of, changed

1134
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying and if with a center

1135
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Like Dwhighte, HOWARD i want to get back to the

1136
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: white to show how good he, is, Right but with

1137
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: a center Like Dwhite howard moved to start a Moving

1138
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: he was a stretch For how was that for you

1139
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: to play the four? Now and it's actually it.

1140
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: Was it was easy for me even THOUGH, i like you,

1141
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: SAID i played the small four to three In, seattle

1142
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: and then WHEN i came To, orlando they moved me

1143
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: to the four because He turculeu was at the three

1144
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: and they wanted to keep him on the. Court SO

1145
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: i WAS i was fine with moving to the four

1146
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: because In SEATTLE i kind of got a taste of

1147
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: being on the. Block. Hours of, course we was a

1148
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: three point shooting. Team we spread the floor with our.

1149
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Shooters got to go.

1150
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: Small but Also nate McMillan loved to put me on that,

1151
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: block SO i was in the post a. Lot like

1152
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: when we needed. Baskets he would always go to me

1153
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: on the, block And i'm, sixteen SO i would always

1154
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: have a smaller guy on. Me but then when they

1155
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: would put a bigger guy on, ME i would just

1156
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: bring my to the. Perimeter so going To orlando and

1157
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: When stan told me want me to move to the,

1158
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: FULL i was all about doing whatever it takes to

1159
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: help the team win ball games BECAUSE i was at

1160
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: the point in my career WHERE i wanted to, win

1161
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: get to the, playoffs and try to win the. Championship

1162
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: SO i was all for. Anything And dwight being so.

1163
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: DOMINANT i don't care who was on that. Team you

1164
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: could have been on. Anybody he was so dominant down.

1165
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: Low we was getting wide over threes all over the.

1166
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: Perimeter that's Why, Me Jamiir, Nelson Hito, TURCULU Jj, redick you,

1167
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: Know Michael, peaches all we. Was we was knocking him

1168
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: down because if you don't double Team Dwight, howell it's a.

1169
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 2: DUNK i mean he was gonna dunk everything.

1170
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Down, there and defensively everything he.

1171
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: Was blocking, Everything so he was pushing up and you

1172
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: know How Van gundy, is he's a defensive.

1173
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Coach was you surprised that him make tough onthing FOR.

1174
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to SAY i wasn't surprised BECAUSE i

1175
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: know it's politics in THE, nba and you know What i'm, saying,

1176
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: Right and you, KNOW i feel, like like myself as

1177
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: well as, Y'ALL i feel like we're underground kings like we.

1178
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: Came you, know we was good. Players but you, know

1179
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: they only highlight who they want to, highlight who they

1180
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: want the stars to, be who the fans want to

1181
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: see ON. Tv that's What even if you had a bad,

1182
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: game they gonna show those. Highlights but that's the politics

1183
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: of the game and you just got to play through.

1184
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: It as long as you go out there and do your,

1185
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: job you're going to get the reward for.

1186
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: It to See dwhight like some of the stuff he was,

1187
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: doing like caught the live for game on dun like

1188
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: to see him in that run y'all, had like you, know,

1189
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: everybody they had. Commercials everybody wait For kobe And lebron

1190
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: the puppet. Dogs, yeah they had commercial with some of

1191
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: my favorite took that personal doll, yeah but to come

1192
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: into that series and you know they Saying Lebron finnah

1193
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: going so for far how was y'all?

1194
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: Team, honestly that's WHY i went To orlando because Of

1195
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: Dwight howard AND i felt like at the, time you

1196
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: have to have a dominant big to have a chance

1197
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: to win THE nba. Championship spurs and The lakers dominated

1198
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: for like a ten year. Span WHEN i was In,

1199
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: seattle there was those teams winning championship and they had

1200
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: a dominant, Center SO i was, like MAYBE i need

1201
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: to play the domin. Center Dwight howells was the GUY

1202
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: i was looking, at and then WHEN i went out

1203
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: there to play with, him he, was LIKE i, said

1204
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: he was very. Dominant but when we went to that

1205
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: series With, cleveland we've been watching the commercials all year

1206
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: long and we was had a full steam ahead was playing,

1207
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: Well so we kind of took that, personal almost like

1208
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: they was automatically putting them in the. Finals but we

1209
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: knew we had a road to go through to get

1210
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: to the. Finals we had to Beat boston to Play,

1211
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: cleveland and when we played when we faced up Against

1212
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: Cleveland game one In, cleveland they jumped out on us Like.

1213
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: GANGBUSTERS i think we was down fifteen sixteen points the

1214
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: first time. Out we went to the bench and set

1215
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: back like man.

1216
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: And they was hyping. There oh it.

1217
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Was it was crazy and it was like this is the.

1218
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: Finals it was, LIKE i don't, know we was ready for.

1219
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: This but Stan Van, gundy he somehow settled us, down

1220
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: got into, us but he settled us down at the

1221
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: same time and make sure you chip away at. It

1222
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: we went back out there at the first quarter and

1223
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: we chipped away at. IT i think we was down

1224
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: maybe one or two points at the, halftime and that's

1225
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: when the series started for, us and we was able

1226
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: to steal game. One WHEN i hit the shot the,

1227
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: buzzer we was able to steal game. One so that's

1228
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: when we, knew, okay we got a Serious now we're

1229
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: not gonna just lay down for these. Guys we knew

1230
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: that was a great. Team of Course lebron over, there

1231
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: but when we was able to steal game, one that's

1232
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: when our confidence level went.

1233
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Up.

1234
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: Here we was, like all, right we got these, guys.

1235
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: But y'all still real, confident because y'all looked like y'all

1236
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: were still. Confident even though he hit that.

1237
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: GAME i was about to say that we were so

1238
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: confident because we had them on the ropes for game.

1239
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: Two we was about to go up to zero on

1240
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: day home, court but like you, said he hit that game.

1241
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Winner but it. Didn't it didn't hurt our confidence too

1242
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: much because that was A i don't want to say

1243
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: it was a lucky, shot but they needed a buzzer

1244
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: beater to beat, us and so we was, Like, okay

1245
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: well we definitely can beat this. Team, well continue playing

1246
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: the way we, played and we went home and took

1247
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: care of home, court went back To. Cleveland they beat,

1248
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: us BUT i think it was game. Six we went

1249
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: back home and we was, like we can't go back

1250
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: To cleveland because it's hard playing. There it's, tough you

1251
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: know What i'm. Saying that crowd is. Crazy they feed

1252
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: off of. It they flying up and down the. Court

1253
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: it's very tough to beat them In. Cleveland and We

1254
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: game six came down to the end of the. Game

1255
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: we ran to. Play it was like a double. SCREEN

1256
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: i pinned down For. Jamie he came up not. Knowing

1257
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: dwight is like the little sneaky. Screen he got me

1258
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: for the rip, screen which is MY i love to

1259
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: turn over my right shoulder When i'm in the, Post

1260
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: so that was my right shoulder on that three point.

1261
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Line turned over my right, shoulder shot the, three and

1262
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: we was only down. Two shot the, three we went up,

1263
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: one and we end up winning that. Game and man

1264
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: AND i think that's where we honestly messed up At

1265
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: we felt like we won a championship by getting to

1266
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: the finals from Beating cleveland and The Easter comes finals

1267
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: because everybody know Who Lebron james is and this is

1268
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: the best team in the. League they got home court

1269
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: advantaged throughout.

1270
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Minims it's hard to get.

1271
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Back we knocked them, Off, yeah we knocked them. Off

1272
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: we going to the. Finals we parted our ass off

1273
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: that night after that game because we got like a

1274
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: week and a half two before we but we parted

1275
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: our ass off after the, game almost like we won

1276
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: the championship and then we kind of, refocused got back into.

1277
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 2: Things but it was new for. Us lakers was. Veterans you,

1278
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Know kobe's been, there all those guys has been there.

1279
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: Before it was nothing for. Them all this media coming

1280
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: to practice and everybody surround the. Court that was new for.

1281
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 2: Us you know What i'm saying this was a little nerve.

1282
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: Wracking it was. New in game, one it showed we

1283
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: went to IN la they beat The brakes off of.

1284
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: Us But game two was a better, game lost in.

1285
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: OVERTIME i was, like you, know we dream of. This

1286
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: not only is we dream make it to a. Championship

1287
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: you made it to a championship and you playing against

1288
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: the most story franchise in THE nba. History, like and

1289
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: it's the, Finals so how you get to see what

1290
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: THE nba really dually got when it's just two. TEAMS

1291
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: i was, like that experience it was for you and

1292
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: for your, Team like you, said it was an amazing.

1293
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: Experience not only, that because it's a lot of guys

1294
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: that played throughout their career not winning the, championship let

1295
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: alone get to the. Finals that's the hardest thing to.

1296
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: Do Like i've only been to the finals twice and

1297
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: played for sixteen, years you know What i'm, Saying so

1298
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: that's very the hardest thing to. Do but getting there

1299
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: and not only getting to the. Finals we're playing The,

1300
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: lakers where all the Stars Denzel washington Or Jack. Nicholson

1301
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: you got all these superstars that sitting around the court

1302
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: that'll watch you play in the. Finals but we're Playing Kobe.

1303
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: Bryant on the other. Side they Got Lamar, Oldham, Pargasol

1304
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: Trevor rezal was on that. Team you, know me playing the,

1305
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: four what's the big buying? Them, yeah, yeah buying them

1306
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: at the. Center So i'm but the, FOUR i gotta

1307
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: Guard pargas and this guy.

1308
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: Is That Paul gasaw that left, hand right left, hand right.

1309
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: Hand oh that's dirty on that.

1310
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: Block not only, that you Got Lamar olden that can

1311
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: handle the ball that's just as. Long and of course

1312
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: you Got Kobe bryant that's been there and he was

1313
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: a straight. Killer so it definitely was a challenge for,

1314
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: us and We Courtney lee was a rookie year for.

1315
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: Us he was a young, guy but he was a great.

1316
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: Defender so we had some young guys Defend Kobe, bryant

1317
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: which didn't pan out too. Well BUT i thought we

1318
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: competed well and we were just, young, inexperienced and they

1319
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: was more experienced team and hands, down they they went

1320
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: out there and just beat us because they was a better.

1321
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: Team the next, year off the, momentum D White howard

1322
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 1: is looking like the NEXT. Mvp, right what didn't? Shake

1323
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: what Didn't.

1324
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: That's LIKE i, said WHEN i made That All star,

1325
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: team you automatically think you're going to be An All

1326
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: star again next. Year and that's the attitude we had

1327
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: was we automatically thought we was gonna go back to

1328
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: the finals because we pretty much bringing. Everybody, yeah and you,

1329
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Like i'll Bring. Vince yet Now. Vince wasn't you already

1330
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: traded For. Vince they traded For. Vince but you you

1331
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: thinking like we automatically gonna get. Back but things was

1332
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: a little you, know it was a how it was

1333
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: harder because now Will. Bullseye we came from targeting other,

1334
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Teams cleveland and all these other. Teams, yeah but now

1335
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: we became that. Side people was coming at, us and

1336
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: we wasn't ready for. That we still had a good,

1337
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: season made the, playoffs BUT i Think boston And lakers

1338
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: made the finals that next year AND Kg Paul Piers

1339
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: run though those guys it beat. Us they locked us

1340
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: off because we had beat them a year. Before and

1341
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: that's when actually when we beat, THEM kg was. Hurt

1342
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: he had and he was having knee, problems and THEY

1343
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: kg was healthy that falling season and they beat us

1344
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: but THEN i think they took it personal because you,

1345
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: know we beat them the year before and they wasn't

1346
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, healthy but they was trying to get

1347
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: back at The, lakers you, know and ended up not

1348
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: having us such a successful year BECAUSE i think mentally

1349
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: we all thought we was gonna be the top dogs

1350
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: again because we was like this season, before and then

1351
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: it didn't work that.

1352
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 3: Way tell me, this BECAUSE i remember WHEN i first

1353
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: got To, ortland though like he was still on the,

1354
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 3: team it was the only time we got to play

1355
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: with each, other and it was crazy for.

1356
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: Me this was my first time getting play With.

1357
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: Vince what was it like When vin and you got

1358
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: a chance to play With vince Carter.

1359
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: Man vince's half man half, amazing, right, right. Man it's

1360
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: crazy because he's so, athletic and so he was still that,

1361
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: way and he was a little, older, older but he

1362
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: was still to take off and, Dunk he shoot the.

1363
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: Three he a great pass so he can pass the, ball,

1364
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: run pick and. Roll him At turkeley was a little,

1365
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: different of, course he's more, athletic But turk not as,

1366
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: athletic but can shoot the, ball, run pick and. Roll But,

1367
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: vince he's just a different type of person, man especially

1368
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: when he was In. Toronto he's just a different.

1369
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Cat talk About Turkey lou was an our draft talk

1370
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: about he is on, defense but he was put. Off

1371
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: he was running point forward for.

1372
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: Y'all, Yeah and that's why it was match up. Problems

1373
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: they always SAID i was a match of, problem and

1374
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: if you put the best defend on, me then we

1375
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: would just get the ball To turkey and run that

1376
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: pick and roll with him And Dwight. Howard and now

1377
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: When i'm not only, that but when they running that

1378
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: pick and, roll you got me in a. CORNER Jj,

1379
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: Reddick jamiir And Nelson and our main play was When

1380
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: dwight came off of that pick and, ROLL i would

1381
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: roll up to the top of the. Key so if

1382
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: you if that bump man don't come out to, Me

1383
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: i'm putting. It i'm gonna shoot it. Same but every

1384
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: time that bump man did, Commit dwhite will seal his

1385
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: man right there and every. Time so that's why playing

1386
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: with a dominant big MAN i think can work to

1387
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: a lot of teams favorite if you know how to use.

1388
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: Him even to this, DAY i know THE nba has.

1389
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: Changed it's a lot of small. Ball but if You

1390
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: joel And, be you get a dominant big man that

1391
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: knows how to play and you know how to use.

1392
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: HIM i think that's what that's the way to.

1393
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: Go Ryan anderson could thank him for that bag he

1394
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: got for running the same play Running.

1395
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: Look white, Screen look the white, Roll.

1396
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:37,959
Speaker 3: Ryan know coming up because you're wide, open but he's

1397
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: an avalanche coming to the. Room you gotta check that

1398
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: come in before you run.

1399
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: Out and you think the white should have never. LEFT

1400
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: i think he should have never. LEFT i thought it

1401
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: would have been best for him to stay In. ORLANDO i,

1402
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: mean they was giving him everything you. Wanted you, know

1403
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: it was a red carpet for, him and they did

1404
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: whatever he. Wanted and they ended up, leaving WHICH i

1405
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: thought wasn't a good idea at the time because they

1406
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: pretty much whatever he wanted they did for. Him they

1407
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: gave it to. Him AND i think he would HAVE i,

1408
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: mean he still had a great, career you, know he's

1409
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: STILL i think he's still a good player in THE

1410
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: nba to this. Day BUT i think he would have

1411
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: been more of a dominant player because people would have

1412
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: came to play with.

1413
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: Him that's especially around that. Time that's the part THAT

1414
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: i don't think the. HEAT i think the heat. UNDERESTIMATED

1415
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: i was there right at the end when he, Left

1416
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: and for, me that was the PART i didn't understand about,

1417
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: Him Like, bro if they was giving him everything right

1418
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: THEY i, mean, clearly, yeah the magic was doing. Whatever

1419
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: BUT i think what he was intrigued. By you Had

1420
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: lebron and D wade and all these guys ganging, up

1421
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: and he felt, like, like well what AM I i'm, Like.

1422
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: Bro you you trust?

1423
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Me just didn't happen overnight where you know it's gonna

1424
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: like if you stay Stan pat like trust, me you

1425
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: just Took you just went to the finals a year

1426
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: and a half, Ago Like bro played the years three

1427
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: times in a row and would have been four if

1428
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have stopped liking. Him you know that was

1429
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: p he should have been, For Like, bro like you

1430
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: are the biggest. Asset anybody got any sense they gonna come,

1431
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: Here they gonna they look around FOR i don't see what's.

1432
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 3: Happened they gonna come, Here like he. DIDN'T i don't

1433
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: think that he understood where he was with that. You

1434
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: he was, out he was. Out you was Beating Kobe

1435
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: lebron and votes for The All Star. Game you was

1436
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: out voting him as a, center as a. Center what

1437
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: he couldn't like they bro he had.

1438
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: IT i just. DON'T i don't think he understood what

1439
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: he what he had going. On he's a good and

1440
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: he's a good people's. Person.

1441
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: Entertained he was like a light up like that what

1442
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: they loved about He it wasn't no. Fake it was,

1443
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: LIKE i love, THIS i love the, KIDS i love the.

1444
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: People i'm about to go crazy and turn up and

1445
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: dance something like this was my natural. Personality this ain't no,

1446
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: act ain't no. NOTHING i was, Like, yo you in

1447
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 3: the you In Disney world, exactly don't get no better.

1448
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: Person you, perfect that's made Of.

1449
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: Heaven tell me about the two seasons you played With

1450
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: miami man and to just you, KNOW i know you

1451
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: ain't get a lot of playing, time but just to

1452
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: watch like them two seasons that process and.

1453
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Got back to. Champions, yeah and you know What i'm.

1454
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: Saying they went to and one they, lost one they

1455
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: won like well one y'all lost in.

1456
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: ONE i can remember WHEN i became free agent that.

1457
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: Summer ray also.

1458
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: Was.

1459
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah ray was also a free agent AND i had

1460
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: already had a couple of teams down. THERE i was

1461
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: getting ready to go. Visit miami was one of. THEM

1462
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: i was. GOING i was getting ready to go To

1463
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: atlanta like the next, day And ray was In. MIAMI

1464
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: i guess he was Visiting miami and Pat riley and.

1465
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: All this guy told, Him, YEAH i was gonna be

1466
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: coming out here next week for a. Visit so when

1467
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: they told him, that he called me that same day

1468
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: and it was, like they just told me you coming

1469
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: To miami for a. Visit AND i was, like, yeah

1470
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: my visit is next. Week i'm going To atlanta. Tomorrow

1471
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: i'm going to talk To. Atlanta and he was, like,

1472
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: man what you going To atlanta? FOR i, said, Well i'm,

1473
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: going you, know to. Visit he, said, man come, on,

1474
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: man he, said what you're trying to? Do you're trying

1475
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: to win the, championship, RIGHT i said. Yeah he, said

1476
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: what the hell are you going To atlanta? For he, said,

1477
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: man you need to just come on out. Here cancel

1478
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: that and just come out, here, man just come sign out.

1479
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: HERE i, say you know, What, Ray you're, Right i'm

1480
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: trying to win a. Championship i'm not gonna win that In.

1481
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta you, know at the, time it wasn't about, minutes

1482
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: scoring and all that other. Stuff it was about. Winning

1483
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: So i'm, like you know, what you sure a, right?

1484
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: Bro let.

1485
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Me we canceled The atlanta, trip went To, miami sat,

1486
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: down talked to Pass, Bow andy signed the contract to your.

1487
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: Deal and THEN i can Remember game, one me And

1488
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: race sitting on the side doing the ring ceremony while

1489
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: they getting their, rings and we just sitting there, like,

1490
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: Man ray was bumping me like real, saw you, know

1491
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: this can be you Because ray already had one down In,

1492
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: boston you know What i'm. Saying So i'm just sitting

1493
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: there here like this can be, you, man this can be.

1494
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: You And i'm Like i'm just looking you know What i'm,

1495
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: saying just like a deer in. Headlights and when that season,

1496
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: started like you, SAID i didn't play a lot of

1497
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: minutes but here and there because we had such a

1498
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: veteran team And miami is a great, city but we

1499
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: had such a veteran. Team we didn't buy into The miami.

1500
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: Lights you, know like even the young, guys the guys

1501
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: that didn't play a lot of, minutes we was getting it.

1502
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: In we were. Scrimmaging we was on all because we. Met,

1503
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: yeah we made sure we was prepared when our name was,

1504
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: called regardless because You Donni's. Hanslom you know you Got Shane,

1505
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: Battier Mike, miller Bird, man you know, Me, Ray Chris,

1506
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: boss D, WADE i mean the. List you, know we

1507
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: had so many veterans on that, team like it was

1508
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: a team that we played the win ball. Games and

1509
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: then they started calling us the heat us like The

1510
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: beatles because everywhere we went on the. Road you know

1511
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: how it is when you come out the, hotel when

1512
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: you going to the ring for three, seconds get on

1513
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: the bus and you, gone oh my, god there was

1514
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: so many people just to see us kind of. WALKING

1515
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: i was just enjoying the moment playing with D, Wade Chris,

1516
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: boss you know What i'm, Saying Ray Allen. LEBRON i

1517
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: was just enjoying the, moment, man BECAUSE i was getting

1518
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: red carpet treatment everywhere we. Go and not only, that

1519
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: but winning that championship out, there you, know especially after

1520
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: we almost lost to The, spurs were reality hitting that

1521
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: miracle three for us to tend the overtime to win the.

1522
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: Championship because actually The spurs really probably should have won

1523
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: that Serious but after winning that, championship that's forever, family

1524
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: and every TIME i go back To miami to this,

1525
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: day he EVERYWHERE i. Go they later red carpet. Out you,

1526
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: know like even THOUGH i wasn't the main guy on

1527
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: that team and played only so many, minutes but everybody

1528
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: that was a part of that team got.

1529
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: Everything tell me this from like you, said you didn't

1530
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: play a whole, lot and you weren't playing a lot

1531
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: in this particular game when they hit that. Shot but

1532
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 3: from the perspective of being part of that, team tell

1533
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: me about that emotional swing from like you see it's.

1534
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: Over they got the yellow.

1535
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: Ropes they the champagne in the, back they roping it,

1536
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 3: off about to be. Over then he hits this. Shot

1537
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: tell me about that. Game it was like the game.

1538
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: Left i'm watching ON. Tv i'm, like, damn it's. Over

1539
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: like SO i was emotionally the hats out.

1540
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: Socks so tell me caught off And i'm sitting over

1541
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: there like we remember by mind you we went on

1542
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: like a twenty seven twenty eight game win stream during the,

1543
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: season breaking red because we doing a kind of stuff

1544
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: And i'm sitting over there like this can't be, True

1545
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: this can't be. Real we finna lose this, game the championship.

1546
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: Game there's no way this is. Possible it was almost

1547
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: like it's not. Real it just felt like it wasn't.

1548
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: Real and we were sitting over there like, puppies like

1549
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: there's no way we got the team we have and

1550
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: the way we won this past. Season we cannot be

1551
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: not losing the champions not winning the, championship and they

1552
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: start roping it off as almost like the fans are leaving.

1553
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: EVERYBODY i, mean it was over pretty much. OVER i

1554
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: think they missed a couple of free throws we. Got

1555
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: the ball came Down ron here the wide open. THREE i,

1556
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: mean he missed a wide open. Three Chris bosh somehow

1557
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: got the rebound with reality moon walking back to the

1558
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: three point line and kind of shoot it while he's

1559
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: kind of moving. Backwards and, man when that ball go

1560
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: through the, net, boy you're talking about a rushing throughout that,

1561
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: arena on the bench, everywhere, man AND i HEARD i

1562
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: didn't see but fans trying to come back in. Arena

1563
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: they weren't letting him back. IN i mean when we

1564
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: won that, game which we he's supposed to. Lose we

1565
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: wasn't Losing game, seven not on our home. Court we

1566
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: wasn't Losing game. Seven we took total control of that whole.

1567
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Game game.

1568
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 3: Seven i'm gonna tell you. What let me know That Ray.

1569
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: Allen it was literally like we had him on the

1570
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 3: show and he told it at this point it was muscle.

1571
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: MEMORY i had did a. Menytime i'm gonna tell you

1572
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: what made me, Know like after he said that and

1573
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: thinking back and looking back at it when you see

1574
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: him hit the, SHOT i don't think it was looking

1575
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: at the. Rim he was kind of he wasn't. Looking,

1576
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: look it was all. Simultaneous everything lined up, perfectly and

1577
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: he like it was muscle memory because all the way

1578
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: to the point that after he shot.

1579
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: It.

1580
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: But like this is WHAT i, do not LIKE i

1581
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: didn't go crazier for the.

1582
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: Moment it was Like i've done this so.

1583
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: Much and he said it when we talked to, him

1584
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: like you are you gotta understand how many Times i've

1585
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 3: shot all of these, Shots like this wasn't an a,

1586
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: Nominee this wasn't like, yes it was a crazy way

1587
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: that they led up to the MOMENT i had done.

1588
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: It so many, times and it was like when you

1589
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: go back and look after hearing him say, that you see.

1590
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: Everything it was the, same even though it's three, two

1591
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 3: it's a fren.

1592
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 2: One everything was the. Same the junk.

1593
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: Shoot he shot his little. Side he came right down

1594
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: and bob.

1595
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: After he started, screaming, Yeah i'm telling the, Security YEAH

1596
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: i get. IT i was, Like, yo this is. Crazy

1597
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: and to hear him talk about it like that and

1598
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: say that like that was perfection right. There yeah that's right.

1599
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: Man from putting, That LIKE i, said he put the

1600
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: work in before, games after, game during the, summer and

1601
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: that's what that moment was him putting in all that

1602
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: work and it paid off in that.

1603
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: Moment some of his, shooting like seeing rayel and shoot

1604
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: it was. Something it's like his shooting like he going

1605
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: around and going back without missing.

1606
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: One and that's what you as a. Shoot and that's

1607
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: WHAT i think About ray is he always you, KNOW

1608
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: i like to shoot a lot of spot. Shots he

1609
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: was always shooting on the, move you know What i'm.

1610
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Saying and that's what kind of made me like start

1611
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: moving and doing more shots on the move because he

1612
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: was so good at your. Legs you have to have

1613
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: your legs to get into, shots and at FIRST i

1614
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: wasn't that good at it doing it on the, Move

1615
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: but obviously watching him and training with, HIM i picked

1616
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: up a lot of his habits and it and it

1617
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: kind of helped me throughout my. Career but that's probably

1618
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: one of the like you, said of Course curry nowadays

1619
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: one of the best, shooters but well it's the best,

1620
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: shooter But Ray, Allen Reggie, miller they gotta be right behind.

1621
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: Him tell me this from like you spoke on you

1622
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: And ray sitting there at the ring ceremony when y'all

1623
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: first got, there how was it for you to go

1624
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: from that day sitting there With ray y'all first game

1625
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 2: to now the next season it's your? Time and how

1626
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,520
Speaker 2: did this feel when you literally got that big old colossal.

1627
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: Ring did y'all like just tell, me, like how how

1628
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: was that?

1629
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 3: Feeling like sitting there one year to now the next

1630
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 3: year is your time and you really putting the ring

1631
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 3: on your?

1632
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: Finger from LIKE i, said everything it was dream not

1633
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: only dream come, true but LIKE i, said it's the hardest.

1634
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: Thing and not just, basketball professional sports is the win

1635
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: that championship football as well baseball win the. Pennant that's

1636
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: the hardest. THING a lot of people don't understand how

1637
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: difficult it. Is we train year, round but it's not just.

1638
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: Individually everybody has to be on the same, page from

1639
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: the team to the coaching staff to the Right, yeah

1640
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: everything has to go right and injuries happened throughout the.

1641
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: Ceason it has to work out, perfect and that's what

1642
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: makes it so, hard especially with. Football you got to

1643
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: have eleven guys on the same page out there to

1644
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: play and do their. Job everybody has to do their,

1645
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: job and sometimes it's hard to make everybody do their

1646
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: job because one or two people may be mad because

1647
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 2: they're not getting either the minutes or the shots all the,

1648
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: time and it's bad chemistry in the locker. Room and

1649
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: being on that team we had so many veteran, guys

1650
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: it was never negative, energy no bad chemistry because nobody

1651
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: cared about who was, playing who was getting, shots or

1652
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: who was scoring that. Night it was all about winning

1653
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: AND i think that's why we was able to be

1654
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: successful to win a. Championship, well they want back to back.

1655
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: CHAMPIONSHIPS i came in and one a that, year and

1656
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: then we lost that third year to The, spurs WHICH

1657
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: i think remember us beating them that year before because

1658
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: they spanked. Us they spanked, us they spanked.

1659
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Us start bench, cut you gotta start. One you gotta bench,

1660
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: one you gotta cut. One we got trade. ONE i

1661
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say Cut, Kawhile, Leonard, Carmelo ANTHONY T, Mac

1662
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: who you?

1663
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 2: Start i'm gonna start While linard because he's won. CHAMPIONSHIPS

1664
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: i gotta go WITH T. Mac this is a. Killer,

1665
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: well you know, what him And, carmelo Because carmelo won

1666
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: a chip in. College it's about. Chips were talking about

1667
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: just the. Game you win, me you're a.

1668
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: Winner we're talking about game game wise Game oh that's.

1669
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: Tough because The killer they both. Scored i'm gonna.

1670
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: Go you're still gonna go To kah number. One just.

1671
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: Nah you know, what if we're talking about this game

1672
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: and not winning chips like, That i'm gonna have to

1673
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: SAY T mac and uh And. CARMELO T mac can

1674
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: put it on the ground and handle. It camelo can

1675
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: also do. It but it put you on that, block

1676
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: put that booty on you and put you to. Work

1677
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: they you, know and he got that second. Jump it's so.

1678
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: Quick he missed the first, shot he right back up

1679
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: to the. Rim he was also a guy that was

1680
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: tough to. GUARD i hated playing them.

1681
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 3: As you this as A og one of the guys

1682
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: That i'm sure that a lot of the you, know especially,

1683
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: nowadays The Seattle supersions fans remember and resonate with how

1684
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 3: bad do you want to see them get a? Franchise

1685
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: bag you the all time franchise and do you want

1686
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 3: to be a part of it when it comes? BACK

1687
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,440
Speaker 3: i wouldn't mind being a part of. It seattle supercis

1688
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 3: when y'all get.

1689
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: Y'all they definitely need a. Team the fans. AMAZING i remember, Years,

1690
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: YEAH i remember years when we was one of the

1691
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 2: worst teams in the, league but they always showed up

1692
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: and showed. Love even, yeah they would come to The,

1693
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: apple they would be at the. Arena and the years

1694
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: we did, good of course they. Supported but the years

1695
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: we did bad is WHAT i look at is they

1696
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: still was. SUPPORTED i, mean look at The seahawks every

1697
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: game and then the fans out there are. Tremendous SO

1698
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: i think they definitely deserve a. TEAM i think they

1699
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: should be the next city to get the team on

1700
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: the Winning they need to call you see how to call.

1701
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: Me i'm willing to help any WAY i. Can Adam

1702
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: silver put the word, out.

1703
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: What made you continue to play in A Big three

1704
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: after you hurt? Yourself so, FIRST i.

1705
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: Didn't want to retire, injured like WHEN i Left. Miami you,

1706
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: KNOW i still felt LIKE i had another couple of

1707
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: years in. Me BUT i had a torn quad. TENDING

1708
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: i actually signed a contract with The Dallas, mavericks BUT

1709
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: i went out there to take my physical and the

1710
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: trainer came AND i wanted to take my. Physical he

1711
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 2: came back in the room like you gotta have. Surgery

1712
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: AND i looked at, him like what he, Said your

1713
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: tendon is hanging on by a. String it's NINETY i

1714
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: was having problems with my knee that whole, season AND

1715
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: i did feel it ripped WHEN i played in uh The.

1716
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: Spurs see someone. Leave you know What i'm, Saying we're

1717
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 2: gonna figure this. Out but they he told ME i

1718
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: had to have. Surgery and kudos To mark Cuban man

1719
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was highly upset WHEN i found OUT i

1720
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: was supposed to leave the next, day changed my plane,

1721
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: ticket jumped on the, plane flew back To, houston BECAUSE

1722
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: i was, just you, know it's messing with my head

1723
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 2: a little bit Because i'm, LIKE i just Left. MIAMI

1724
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: i had the exit. Physical they told me it was

1725
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: just like a you, know a spring and you, know

1726
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: iced it down or. Whatever it should Be. Okay in

1727
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks And Mark cuban. Called he was

1728
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: calling my, phone but my phone was. Off he left

1729
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: me a couple of. Messages called him. Back he was, like,

1730
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: MAN i know it's devastating to. You you, KNOW i

1731
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: understand where you're coming, from he, said BUT i want

1732
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: to give you the option to you come, here you can.

1733
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: Rehab you know you're not someuning to. Come you can come.

1734
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: Here you can rehab with, us and you can try

1735
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: to play second half of the. Season or if you

1736
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: don't want to play no, more you're more than welcome

1737
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: to sit on the bench and try to learn to

1738
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: be a. Coach SO i was, like, MAN i was,

1739
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: LIKE i thank, You, MARK i really do appreciate. It

1740
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: BUT i was, like BUT i still want to. PLAY

1741
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: i want to play another year or, two So i'm

1742
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and rehab and try to get back

1743
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: second half of the. Season and but he was, like,

1744
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: well you can rehab with, us or do you want

1745
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: to do it at. HOME i, Said i'm gonna do

1746
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: it at. HOME i, said, Well i'll be able to

1747
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: travel with the. Team he, said, well you probably be

1748
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 2: back and just kind of. REHAB i, said, Well i'm

1749
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: gonna stay home and. Rehabit Then i'm try come out

1750
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: that second half of. Season but gearing up for second

1751
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: half of the, SEASON i started, TRAINING i felt LIKE

1752
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: i wasn't one hundred percent. READ i feel LIKE i

1753
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: was gonna injure myself. Again and it WAS i was

1754
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of, pain and every STEP i just

1755
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 2: felt LIKE i. WAS i was on the verge of

1756
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: getting re. Injured SO i was, like, Nah, mark you,

1757
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: Know i'm gonna sit out the rest of the, year

1758
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: and just you, know kind of figured this out BECAUSE

1759
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: i don't want to get back out. THERE i don't

1760
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: think it's worked at me going back out, there WHICH

1761
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 2: i know this is a team that's kind of. Rebuilding

1762
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: they're not a championship, team SO i don't think it's

1763
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: worked me going back out there to re injure. Myself

1764
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: So i'm gonna wait for the rest of you to

1765
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: sit it. Out but you, know set it out then

1766
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: just kind of, LIKE i think that might be it for. Me,

1767
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: YEAH i still love the, ball you, know like we

1768
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 2: ball is that hard at the end of the. Day

1769
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 2: that's WHY i think The Big three it's helped me

1770
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: kind of you, know play at a high, level but

1771
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: not having to practice every. Day it's only Half kuurdang

1772
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: got a run up down the. Court but the big

1773
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: thing for me was my kids were so young WHEN

1774
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: i was, playing and especially being In. Miami they didn't really,

1775
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: understand they don't really, remember but being in The Big,

1776
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: three it's such a joy for them seeing that daddy

1777
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: play on.

1778
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: In the locker Ro that was WHAT i said for,

1779
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 3: Me LIKE i was unlike. You for my whole. CAREER

1780
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: i didn't have my, kids weren't you, know WEREN'T i

1781
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: didn't have my kids to the end and after my,

1782
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: career so they didn't get to experience daddy, hooping daddy

1783
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 3: being that guy another that and even when they got

1784
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: to see me playing The Big.

1785
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: Three i'm still not that guy that THAT i, was

1786
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: but it's a joy for.

1787
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: Them, no but it was like Three.

1788
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 2: LIKE i was, like, like you, know, listen you can't

1789
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: tell me.

1790
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: Nothing WHEN i came to the. CREW i got a

1791
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 3: champion kings welcome about us doing crazily real ship. Pain

1792
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: so you're, okay you know What i'm, Saying like that,

1793
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: standpoint like you, say being in the locker, room getting

1794
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 3: it just to be in that, environment being Around Big,

1795
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: baby Bird, man like everybody like my kids looking Like

1796
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: Big baby is the, great you know he a fool

1797
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: of him and Bird man like they FaceTime with.

1798
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: Them so like all of.

1799
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: That being able to be around all of that and

1800
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: come be on the road that little those, weekends that

1801
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: was dope for.

1802
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: Me, Man Like i'm done with it, now but you

1803
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: know a lot of.

1804
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 3: Listen it was definitely good times getting a chance to

1805
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: be back in the locker room hanging with the guys

1806
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: for those. Weekends and you, know we all peer so you,

1807
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 3: know everybody know each other and that was always the best.

1808
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: Part that fellowship and the kicking. It and it was

1809
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: like we was out there to, compete but it wasn't

1810
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: like we going back to it were about to kill each.

1811
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: Other we want to compete and get real fast use

1812
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: cameras and watching like it ain't like oh this ain't

1813
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: no be a.

1814
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: Home it started getting competitive for you because you kept

1815
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: you wanted to win THE i want to win that's,

1816
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: right because you kept going all the way to the. Championship ye.

1817
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 3: All in, SHORT i want to ask you about something

1818
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 3: THAT i know a lot of people probably don't, know

1819
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: AND i was shocked WHEN i found out about. It

1820
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 3: like you went to horses like this man owned horses

1821
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: like The kentucky do like ra. Like, LOOK i don't

1822
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 3: know about, it BUT i just seen fifty cents there

1823
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 3: the other day when you went to the rodeos and the.

1824
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: Horse, yeah you got money rodeo going? On, now you

1825
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: know What i'm.

1826
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: Saying man got money over. Here so how did you

1827
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: get into horses and owning? Horses and one of your

1828
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: horses like place in the?

1829
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: Race? Right they made, it actually made The Kentucky, derby

1830
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: which is very hard to. Do there's been people in

1831
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: that business for twenty thirty plus years and have never

1832
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: ran a horse Into Kentucky. Derby BUT i got into.

1833
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: It one of my close, Friends Jake BALLAST i grew

1834
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: up with here In. Houston we didn't go to high school,

1835
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: together but we played on the SAME au team, together

1836
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: so we knew each other all throughout high. School he

1837
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: went TO u of H, WELL i knew we knew

1838
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 2: each other WHEN i was pro and then WHEN i

1839
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 2: got To. Orlando his dad did it when he was

1840
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: a kid a long time, ago but he got out

1841
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: of the, business so he decided to get back into.

1842
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: It they was getting a whole lot of guys group

1843
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: of guys together to get into the, horses and they

1844
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: asked me about it IF i wanted to get into

1845
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: it with. Them So i'm, LIKE i know about. It

1846
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: i'll watch, it BUT i don't know the back end about,

1847
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: it like the breeding and buying the, horses or the

1848
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: stud fees and all this other. Stuff SO i was,

1849
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: like let me do some research on that part of

1850
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: it and Then i'll let you know in a couple

1851
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: of months IF i want to do it or. Not

1852
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: SO i kind of did my research a little bit on,

1853
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: it AND i was, like you know, What i'll. Try

1854
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: but you, KNOW i went small and on the first,

1855
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: horse which is the name joining the, dance and that

1856
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 2: horse ends up winning a lot of points to make

1857
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: The Kentucky derby the very first horse we. Get so

1858
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: we thought it was, like, oh it's, easy and you,

1859
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: know we was a long shot in The. Derby we

1860
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: wasn't picked to win, it but it was such an. Experience,

1861
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 2: YEAH i was BECAUSE i was in the. PLAYOFFS i couldn't.

1862
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: Go at some Point i've Been i've been going a. Lot.

1863
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah WHEN i, WAS i was, always, Yeah i'm that.

1864
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: Year i'm going next year. TOO i love, it, MAN

1865
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: i Just i'm really a fan of. It but we

1866
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: were in the playoffs with The magic at the, time

1867
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: and they was, like are you? Going are you going

1868
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: to go down? There you're not. PLAYING i was, LIKE

1869
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: i wanted to, go BUT i was, like, NO i can't.

1870
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: Go it won't look. Good i'm at The Kentucky. Derby

1871
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: and THEN i got to come back and play a.

1872
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 2: Game BUT i can remember the. Hearts we long shot

1873
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: broke out the gate led the pack all the way

1874
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: around to that last, turn so we like we knew

1875
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: it wasn'tna win the. Race when he came run that last,

1876
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: turn we started sweating and getting that. Adrenaline russ like

1877
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: we were looking at each other and hitting each other and

1878
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: it just seemed like you started moonwalking. Backwards like we

1879
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: finished in like sixth, place which is good for, us

1880
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: you know What i'm, Saying because we was like fifty

1881
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: to one hours long. Shot but you, know we ended

1882
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: up losing the, race but just being there and having

1883
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: the experience with such an amazing. Time it was my

1884
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: first time being at The, derby never been before my,

1885
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: life well not that, year BUT i started going after,

1886
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: that and that's a bucket list. THING i don't KNOW

1887
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 2: i y'all ever, been BUT i would say go at least.

1888
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 2: One everybody know What i'm, saying at least once you

1889
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 2: should go and it's a good.

1890
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: TIME i was To Kentucky, derby BUT i didn't go

1891
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: to the to the.

1892
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:15,919
Speaker 2: Races.

1893
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, one he's just having a good time for the

1894
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: festivities one.

1895
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: Time but to this, DAY i kind of got out

1896
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 2: of it a little. Bit i'm kind of small into the.

1897
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: Game you. Know it's a group of, guys a bunch

1898
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: of us because it gets. Expensive AND i learned that

1899
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: after we got that first horse making A derby and

1900
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: then we got purchased by four more. Horses but they

1901
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't worth, nothing but they cost a lot of. Money

1902
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: but not only they cost money to buy, them you

1903
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: gotta pay for the, boarding the, feeding the. Training like

1904
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: if they not, winning if they win the, races it

1905
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: pays for itself and you get. Money but if they're not,

1906
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: winning racist it's a lot of. Bills H you got

1907
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: to pay for the training and you got to pay

1908
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: for the horses to be with that. Training everywhere they

1909
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: go and it's. Seasonal they're In florida during the you,

1910
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: know winter, time they Running New, York Sarah, tooga doing

1911
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: the Something, Kinglyn. Kentucky so they move around a little.

1912
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: Bit if you don't have a at least one good

1913
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: hearts that can win, races it's not worth. IT i don't,

1914
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: think you, KNOW i learned. That we thought it was

1915
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: easy because our first hearts to make the, Derby but nah.

1916
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: Tell us about The Lewis. Academy Charl Louis.

1917
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: Academy is something that there's something that's been going on

1918
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: for a bit and it's my, boys the, Twins led

1919
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: and E. Manual they started THE aau team WHEN i

1920
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: was still playing in the. League so it's something that

1921
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: they built up WHEN i was still playing AND i

1922
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: come back home and kind of help them out a

1923
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: little bit during the. Summertime but you, know this is

1924
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: something that they, built so it's like their baby almost

1925
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: and you, know we have from young kids from fifth

1926
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: grade all the way up to high school. Kids especially

1927
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: during the year when kids are playing school. Ball we

1928
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: had a fall ball for the younger kids also as

1929
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: well as, training and then when kids started playing school,

1930
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: ball of course just when you start THE au, season

1931
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: but we do training year. Around it's more of giving

1932
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: back to the community BECAUSE i can remember growing up

1933
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: as a, kid it wasn't a lot of places to

1934
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: play basketball or have that type of. Training, yeah we

1935
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: played open gym after, school but that was about, it

1936
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: you know What i'm. Saying BUT i feel like me

1937
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: growing up in The houston, area especially being from here

1938
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: and having the Success i've had in, basketball you, KNOW

1939
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: i got to give it to this next generation the,

1940
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: kids and THEN i end up having my own. Son

1941
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: So i'm really happy that the twins did decide to

1942
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: start this program WHILE i was still. Playing and now

1943
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: That i'm, home you, KNOW i can kind of be

1944
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: a little bit more hands, on BUT i still allow

1945
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: them to run it because this is something that they.

1946
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: Started and you, know these are two guys that are

1947
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: my best. Friends So i'm still hands on with and

1948
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: helping them out and doing my part here and. There

1949
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 2: but this is something that the. Twins really do you,

1950
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: know this is like that that. Thing this is what

1951
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: they've been doing for a long, time fifteen plus a,

1952
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: year SO i really just enjoy helping.

1953
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Them what was the first time you Heard sweet Lou?

1954
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: Seattle Kevin collaborro gave me that. Name it, was you,

1955
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: know commentator for The signs at the, time AND i

1956
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: don't know why he called me, that but when he,

1957
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: did he just he would always call me, that you,

1958
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: know doing the, games AND i just kind of ran with.

1959
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: It nike put it on my shoe when you know

1960
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: how they were seeing, shoe they put whatever name you

1961
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: on on, there so that's WHEN i really took off with.

1962
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: It but that name came Bron Alter. EGO i guess

1963
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: because the WAY i played the. GAME i wasn't, like you,

1964
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: know the biggest trash, talker just kind of out, there

1965
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: get the job, done real, smooth not. Flashy but at

1966
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day you look at the score,

1967
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: card you're, like, damn he had twenty, one but it

1968
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: doesn't look like, that you know What i'm. Saying it

1969
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: was ALWAYS i think that's why he started Calling Sweet.

1970
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: Loup how was it you like when you was In.

1971
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Orlando you was playing the stretch. Floor LIKE i, said

1972
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: you big enough to play the stretch. Floor and you

1973
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: know it's still some big guys that's playing afoor that you,

1974
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 1: know they powerful and, strong but you was so much

1975
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: a threat on offense that it go hand in. Hand,

1976
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: yeah if you get the ball every time down, Here

1977
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: i'm gon shoot three yea time down. Here so how

1978
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: was it for you to be part of the group

1979
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: to see now that all you see is stretched for

1980
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: like you will be a.

1981
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: Five, yeah you, know it's very funny you say that

1982
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: because a lot of people SAID i can probably play

1983
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: in today's league because of the way they play the,

1984
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: game small, ball stretch. FOUR i remember a couple of

1985
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: memes came out when they started Calling Klay thompson And

1986
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: curried The Splash. Brothers then they had you, know the

1987
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: Original Splash brothers talking about me and reality because we

1988
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 2: was always shooting. Threes but the way, that like you,

1989
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: SAID i think that's WHY i use that to my,

1990
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: advantage and that's WHY i was successful to play for

1991
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: sixteen years in THE nba BECAUSE i was before my,

1992
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: time if you can kind of say, it like being

1993
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: sixteen able to shoot the three as well as go

1994
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: out and post up on the, block kind of playing two.

1995
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: POSITIONS i was kind of before my, time and then

1996
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: it worked out to my, advantage AND i tried my

1997
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: best to use it to my. Advantage BECAUSE i was,

1998
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 2: Skinny like you, SAID i couldn't bang with the big.

1999
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: BOYS i hated banging with, him AND i was taller than,

2000
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: him BUT i didn't have that beef on me to

2001
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: bang with. Him so IF i had the smaller guy on,

2002
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: ME i would just go post them. Up but IF

2003
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: i couldn't back you, Down i'm just gonna turn around

2004
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: to shoot it over you BECAUSE i got the. Height

2005
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: but then WHEN i kept doing, that they would put

2006
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,440
Speaker 2: the big man on. ME i can't bang with, You

2007
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: so you come your but out here to the three point.

2008
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Line i'm athletic enough to run around.

2009
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: You but, yeah.

2010
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: And and and then kind of evolved into the game.

2011
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: Today you, know they say the game is a little,

2012
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: softer but you, know it's just a lot of skilled

2013
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 2: players out. There there's a lot of. Talent and would you.

2014
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Be if you get that that hud right.

2015
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: There on the Knocked but that's when it comes into

2016
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: lifting and putting in the. Work but now that the,

2017
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: league even Joelan be playing center can knock down to.

2018
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Three you, know you have a Yeah, lopez the brothers

2019
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: that they can. Shoot you, know they're not shooting like consistent.

2020
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Rookie they can knock it. Down so and a lot

2021
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: of that goes into the coaches allowing the bigs to,

2022
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: shoot BECAUSE i can remember back, then you let us

2023
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: center shoot the three during our time you come out

2024
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: of the, game you sit on the bench or the

2025
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: coach gonna get into you about. That but nowadays they

2026
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: allowing them to do a little bit more. Freedom it's

2027
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: more offense than. DEFENSE i played for defensive mind to,

2028
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: coach but nowadays TODAY'S nba every day want to see

2029
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: these guys.

2030
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: Score what did you think you would do if you

2031
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: was able to shoot ten to fifteen threes a, Game.

2032
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: MAN i probably would have Averaged i've probably been more

2033
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 2: than a two time Allst but with, me, MAN i

2034
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: was the type of player to WHERE i didn't go

2035
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: out there to jack up a lot of. SHOTS i

2036
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: took what came to. Me, yeah you, KNOW i never

2037
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: forced the, issue and sometimes that kind of hurt me

2038
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 2: a little, bit especially WHEN i was In. Orlando they

2039
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: saying he's not worked this or. That BUT i played

2040
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 2: the game to. WIN i didn't go out there to

2041
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: get numbers and to please the fans try to make the.

2042
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: All it was all about. Winning, yeah you, know it

2043
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: was all about winning for me BECAUSE i Knew Dwight

2044
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: howard was out number one, option even THOUGH i probably

2045
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: was the highest paid on the team at the time

2046
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: before he got his. Deal but he's the number one.

2047
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: OPTION i was okay with that because by him being

2048
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: the number one option got us to the. Finals turkulu

2049
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: WAS i would probably say number two options because he

2050
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: had the ball in his hands most of the time

2051
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 2: running pick and, road AND i was fine with that

2052
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: because at the end of the, day we was winning ball.

2053
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Games it would be some NICE i had nine ten. Points,

2054
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: yeah you, know in as a basketball, player we upset about,

2055
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 2: it BUT i. Didn't it was a. Winner. YEAH i

2056
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: didn't go to the team and have bad energy and

2057
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: be pouting on the bench BECAUSE i wanted to win.

2058
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 2: It we won that. GAME i remember going back To

2059
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: seattle WHEN i went To. Orlando first game back In.

2060
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Seattle of COURSE i wanted to have forty on the,

2061
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: head BUT i THINK i probably had ten, points but

2062
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: we won the, game AND i was just as exciting

2063
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: in the locker. ROOM i remember coach pulling me to the, side, like,

2064
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: MAN i really appreciate the attitudes you have BECAUSE i

2065
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: know you wanted to have a good game coming back

2066
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: here to this. Building but you didn't have a good.

2067
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: Game you, played it didn't didn't work out for, you

2068
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: but you just as excited as everybody else because we

2069
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: won the. Game so with, me it was all about.

2070
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Winning it wasn't all about adding the.

2071
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: STATS i.

2072
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: COULD i could definitely co sign that because WHEN i came,

2073
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: there you, KNOW i came there.

2074
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: After being with The.

2075
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 3: Heat, yeah we didn't even finish the whole season together

2076
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 3: because you ended up getting traded TO dc For Gilbert.

2077
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 3: Arenas Gilbert arenas, exactly but like it's the. Whole it

2078
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: was kind of like Cause vince got traded for J

2079
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 3: Rich Ja, rich he got traded for traded like so

2080
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 3: it was like that, year it just, whatever The gumbo wasn't.

2081
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 3: Right they didn't feel like The gumbos, right so they

2082
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 3: was making. Move BUT i remember WHEN i first came

2083
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 3: to the, team and you, KNOW i was, like, MAN

2084
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: i get to.

2085
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Play you, know we was we was.

2086
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: KICKING i was like AND i AND i AND i

2087
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: knew then it didn't contract being the, master none of

2088
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 3: that matter for. Him it was like he was bought

2089
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 3: into the. Team AND i felt like that about you,

2090
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: Know vince and everybody we had to it just now

2091
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 3: you get with some team sometime and it's just not

2092
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: working and the team has to do, something and you

2093
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: don't know what that something's gonna. Be BECAUSE i felt

2094
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: like it could have been anybody that got moved when

2095
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 3: they remember when it was going, on we was kind

2096
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: of all looking around happen.

2097
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Like it was Like chips.

2098
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: FAIL i was, like, damn because you KNOW i HAD

2099
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 3: i was like on a four year not minimum but

2100
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 3: barely over the minimum deal leaving From. Miami HERE i

2101
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: had been through WHERE i didn't been.

2102
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: Moved boom boom.

2103
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 3: BOOM i was, like, Yeah i'm about to BE i

2104
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: didn't think it was gonna be vanced by no.

2105
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Means like for.

2106
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: Real it was like they came With jade And vince

2107
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 3: WITH i was, like damn for j. REAL i was,

2108
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 3: LIKE i can't BELIEVE i last, Year Like i'm just,

2109
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 3: knowing you, KNOW i got that type and then you

2110
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: went out like. Damn but you, know it was like

2111
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: that was one of the chances you, get like when

2112
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 3: even WHEN i played With al with The knicks or

2113
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 3: even In, orlando it was, like this is one of

2114
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: my partners THAT i really knew from when we first

2115
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 3: started doing, This like, damn we get a chance to

2116
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: play a little bit. Together and White. CHOCOLATE J wills

2117
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,719
Speaker 3: on that team was like one of the bugs want.

2118
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: To cool it. Crazies BEFORE i came over here, too

2119
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: we were saying your bubbs on. Him, man he's so.

2120
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 3: ELUSIVE J Williams White. Chocolate if you, listening you already

2121
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 3: know he got. It you know a lot about. Basketball

2122
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 3: he's got the knowledge golf and basketball is what do you?

2123
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 2: Do that's all he been doing To he's still doing,

2124
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,480
Speaker 2: it trust.

2125
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: Me AND i just don't got nothing to do with.

2126
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: You but how does it feel to be like part

2127
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: of elite class of like ballers that went straight out

2128
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: of high school like the, Kgs, yeah The Kobe's lebron

2129
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: just don't have nothing to do with. You you don't

2130
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: even need to talk that. Person but to, us how

2131
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: does it feel to, be you, know and be one of?

2132
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Them success? STORY i feel That it's definitely a.

2133
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: BLESSING i was honored to be able to go straight

2134
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: out of high school and get into THE, nba but

2135
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: not only, that but stay in the, league because we

2136
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: know how hard it is to stay in the, league

2137
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 2: especially your drafting the. League but it's just like you,

2138
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 2: said it's a it's a different class of a lot

2139
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: of guys because it's night and. Day you know What i'm,

2140
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: Saying you don't really know what you're getting yourself. Into

2141
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 2: because this could have been a lot of things that

2142
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: happened that kind of worked out for me THAT i

2143
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 2: was able to make the team that first, year because

2144
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: if it went, different like it wasn't a lockout or you,

2145
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: know it's just any little tweat it could it could

2146
01:32:58,240 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 2: have been the other.

2147
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: Ways guys that didn't make because like we all Thought Cole,

2148
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: young he was the one that he look like a. Man,

2149
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: yeah we knew he was gonna be you, know that

2150
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: game a long. Time and that's just how to you, know.

2151
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes agree with. THAT i saw you, know, like, like

2152
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: how did you feel about that when you came out

2153
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: of high?

2154
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: SCHOOL i flip THAT i feel dope just to be

2155
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: even mentioned with you, know all the players that came

2156
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: straight out of high, School Like jayo kind of put

2157
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: it to my attention one TIME i was hearing. Him

2158
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 1: he was always, saying like the straight out of high

2159
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: school guys is like an elite group that's inside a bigger.

2160
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Group AND i feel like that, too because like is.

2161
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: It an elite group or just a different.

2162
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Group it's elite, group cause we. Elite it's a lot

2163
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: of elite straight out of high school guys came. Out

2164
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: don't disrespect to stay out of. This LIKE i, said

2165
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: it's an elite group in the bigger.

2166
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Group LIKE i, said in the, LEAGUE i just want

2167
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: you feel.

2168
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: My. Stuff but you, know you know What i'm, Saying

2169
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: like like we as a part of the league, group

2170
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 1: the guys that took a chance to skip college something

2171
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: that you, know the world at the time was programmed

2172
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: for all of us to go to college and do

2173
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: this whole process and we ain't never seen it. Before

2174
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: he just did it two years three years before.

2175
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 2: YOU i always wonder, though what IF i went to,

2176
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 2: College so what if what IF i played in the,

2177
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 2: tournament or what IF i did this or did. THAT i

2178
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: wonder how it would have came.

2179
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 1: Out i'll be thinking about that IF i.

2180
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 2: Would have, won getting to the, tournament lead a final.

2181
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 2: FOUR i always.

2182
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,440
Speaker 1: A little college, story just got college.

2183
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: College, kid you know college THOUGH i did watch THE i.

2184
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: DID i got it as a.

2185
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: Freshman we say college college. College that didn't matter to.

2186
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 3: Us, hey All i'm just saying is that at the

2187
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 3: level THAT i was, at that was the top level

2188
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 3: THAT i was.

2189
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 2: At people thought when they saw me AND i was

2190
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 2: six y, nine like how you, say, okay play that.

2191
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 3: Way, listen, man listen as one of my classmates class

2192
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: in the, building, MAN i appreciate my, dog Sweet lotu

2193
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 3: mb a world champion in the.

2194
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: Building. Man you know we gotta show, love. Man we

2195
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 2: with That. Hennessy you know THAT bsop is very very special.

2196
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: Privilege timing for the, playoffs and you know we got

2197
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 2: them boys on the. Back you know they didn't give

2198
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 2: us a, classic, right you know it's gotta go on

2199
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 2: the trophy case with The yeah got. IT i don't

2200
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: even know IF i want to drink it, now BECAUSE

2201
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: i got that bottle of CHAMPAGNE i got from The

2202
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: WHEN i want a, championship it ain't open yet because

2203
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 2: it got that. Championship you he got the same.

2204
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 3: One we said it all so you know this might

2205
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: not get a kid From east and the kid From.

2206
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Chicago you know we made it to the.

2207
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 3: BOTTLE i appreciate y'all tune in a time live on.

2208
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: Location This houston's fine as y'all knuckleheads.

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01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:20,240
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2210
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,519
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2211
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