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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,

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Speaker 2: our friend Ryan Gradowsky returns. He is the founder of

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Speaker 2: the seventeen to seventy six Project Pack, and he'll tell

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Speaker 2: us a bit about what they've been up to. Also,

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Speaker 2: on substack. We're going to talk about Trump, DeSantis, Biden

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Speaker 2: versus whoever early states, the twenty twenty four process, how

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Speaker 2: it's all shaken out, how it's looking in some school

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Speaker 2: board stuff. So deep dive in into politics here, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: let's start with this one. Well, we'll do this in

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Speaker 2: what will be effectively chronological order. How's the Trump DeSantis

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Speaker 1: Right now? Is Trump is obviously way ahead. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's probably ahead in every single state he's game. Trump

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Speaker 1: had massive losses after the primary after the general election

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two because most of his candidates lost.

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Speaker 1: He backed a lot of losers, and I think with

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Speaker 1: he lost in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty, rather all

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Speaker 1: of his candidates lost. I think just the lieutenant governor

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Speaker 1: of George was the only one who won. So people

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Speaker 1: then you know, time kind of heals all wounds and

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Speaker 1: that dyne sentence, and there was a rally on the

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Speaker 1: King effect, and I think that that is definitely benefiting him,

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Speaker 1: and he's really the only one actually running. Trump has

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Speaker 1: an effective team actually working to Sanders done up. He

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Speaker 2: What do you say? What do you say to people

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Speaker 2: Ryan who at this point say, well, hold on a second.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis isn't really a candidate yet, so it's not fair

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Speaker 1: That is true. You can have an operation when you

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Speaker 1: high profile people on television every day defending him, promoting him,

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Speaker 1: attacking Trump as a precursor that doesn't exist. You could

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Speaker 1: In fact, Leezelden, who was supposed to allegedly be one

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Speaker 1: He just endorsed Trump. He doesn't have an effective operation

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Speaker 1: And Trump is. And Trump has Susie Wiles, who as

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Speaker 2: Why does she hate Why does she hate Ronda Santis?

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Speaker 1: Ron got her fired for allegedly leaking materials and she

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Speaker 1: She got fired from out of deference to Dissantas, who

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Speaker 1: One he needs a national message, Uh, Florida Freedom lives

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Speaker 1: So what are you going to do for the industrial Midwest?

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Speaker 1: program to attack Trump every single solitary day on media.

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Speaker 1: It's so bad right now for the Desanta's team that

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Speaker 1: Trump is the greatest person when it comes to branding

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Speaker 1: It's really true and he has branded himself on certain

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Speaker 2: Tell me this, is there any poling, Is there any data,

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Speaker 2: whether DeSantis because you said, Trump has branded himself as

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Speaker 2: a winner. And it's interesting because even bringing up the

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Speaker 2: it's really difficult to have a conference. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: what can be done to have a different outcome? Than

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and I'll get people who will say, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't need a different outcome in twenty twenty because

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Speaker 1: I say, try himself. Trump himself privately has said he's lost,

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Speaker 1: like but he's branded himself as a winner.

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Speaker 2: But you see what I mean, Like, how do you

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Speaker 2: same strategy this time. Let me put this a better way.

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Speaker 2: If DeSantis and his surrogates, once De Santis gets in

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Speaker 2: if they attack Trump for being a loser in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: is that an effective tactic.

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Speaker 1: DeSantis himself does not have to sit there and say

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Speaker 1: there and say that outside people affecting the election, like

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Speaker 1: social media and blocking one hundred and Biden, that is all.

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Speaker 2: True, by the way, that's all real yeah, of course

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Speaker 2: it was fixed.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly Stone. There's a difference. There was definitely

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Republican verus Democrat politics that will always exist,

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Speaker 1: That exists under George W. Bush as well. There was

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Speaker 1: Among people who don't like Biden to Biden and don't

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Speaker 1: So he is losing that same group of people that

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I want to return to this.

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Speaker 2: how it feels. But how many more headlines and much

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Speaker 2: more speculation of our dollar no longer being the world's currency.

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Speaker 2: said he was going to get done, and for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how. I don't really know

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Speaker 2: what to say to that, because it doesn't matter, because

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Speaker 2: it's clear that it wouldn't matter. And and and then

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Speaker 2: I say to them, I voted for Trump twice. I

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Speaker 2: thought overall, you know, he did he did well as

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Speaker 2: as president and obviously voted for me against Joe Biden. No,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, I have to agree with all this

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Speaker 2: other stuff or else. There's like a sense of betrayal,

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Speaker 2: like how could you be you know, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to I'm supposed to say. I'm supposed to say

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Speaker 2: that Florida sucks, the wall was built. You know, these

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Speaker 2: are things I'm supposed to say or else. There are

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Speaker 2: some people, maybe it's a small part, but they get

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Speaker 2: mad at me, and I don't really know what I

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Speaker 2: can say to them. I don't really know how to

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Speaker 2: I get a little flabbergasted by it.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, I'm not out for a popularity kind

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Speaker 1: of Some don't care if they get mad at me,

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Speaker 1: but the point is, and they can troll me all

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Speaker 1: day on Twitter. I don't do the comments, so I

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Speaker 1: just listen never. There are a ton of people in

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Speaker 1: the media, and I go on the media a lot,

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Speaker 1: so I can consider myself part of conservative media. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who openly lie the viewers, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of them every single solitary day. They're paid

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Speaker 1: to lie. A lot of them are paid by campaigns

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Speaker 1: secretly or organizations that are supported by campaigns. It's a lie,

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Speaker 1: straightforward to lie every single solitary day. Some believe the

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Speaker 1: live but most do not. And at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, my consciousness there and says, Okay, if there's

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Speaker 1: there's a wall built, how are all these migrants across

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Speaker 1: on the wall? Where? How are how are where? We

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Speaker 1: see tons of video footage of migrants walking across the border?

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Speaker 1: Why are they being stopped by that wall that Trump built?

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Speaker 1: And he built fifteen miles, which is okay, better than nothing.

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Speaker 1: But if conquer stuff in the fifteen miles built, or.

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Speaker 2: Did he not try?

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Speaker 1: Why did he? Why did why? Why did Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: push most of his most of his politics to his

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Speaker 1: Democrats on the law only?

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Speaker 2: Could I could I get somebody who is all all

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Speaker 2: in on Trump on the other side already?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Can I try to I want to moderate a Could

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Speaker 2: we do like a show where I will moderate between

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Speaker 2: you two?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it? Yeah, listen, And I don't come at

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Speaker 1: this as some I'm not Bill Crystal, I'm not you know,

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Speaker 1: Cindy McCain. I voted for Donald Trump every time he

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Speaker 1: was on the ballot. The day he came down that

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Speaker 1: golden escalator. I said, he's my guy, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. But like a lot of people who came

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Speaker 1: to Trump to support him, I didn't support him because

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Speaker 1: he was on the Apprentice. I didn't support him because

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Speaker 1: you know he was going to tell McConnell f himself

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Speaker 1: and act like an asshole on Twitter. Scuse my nuage.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I wasn't. I didn't support I support

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Speaker 1: him because he said our country is fundamentally broken by

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Speaker 1: our elite, which I still agree with. I still agree

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Speaker 1: with every policy he put forward. In twenty sixteen, I

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Speaker 1: voted for him to be president, and very few of

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Speaker 1: those policies ever got accomplished. And it's not because the

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Speaker 1: chance wasn't there. It was that we didn't have a

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Speaker 1: leader who even exercised that chance. And let me give

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Speaker 1: you one little example. He could not get the raz

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Speaker 1: Act done, the Raiz Act, which would have altered our

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Speaker 1: immigration policy fundamentally for the better. He could not get

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Speaker 1: Republicans to sign on to it, or Democrats is when

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Speaker 1: they had the majority in both houses. So you know

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Speaker 1: what he should have done. He should have sat there

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Speaker 1: to say, Nancy Postio, Mitch McConnell the resident has the

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Speaker 1: sole authority to withhold any class or any single immigrant

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Speaker 1: that they want to on their own. Latterly, if Trump

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Speaker 1: called President Day, if Biden said, guess what, guys, no

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Speaker 1: more redheads in this country, he has unilateral authority. No

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Speaker 1: one can tell him no. Trump had that authority. You

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Speaker 1: know what he was doing. He was meeting with Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 1: saying how Jeff Bezos needs more immigrants.

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Speaker 2: So hold on it, yeah, hold on a second. I

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Speaker 2: got to reach for some Scotch here while we're doing

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Speaker 2: this podcast, Okay, And I need to. I need to

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Speaker 2: numb the pain of what you're telling me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And I do, by the way, I want to have

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Speaker 2: because this needs to happen, because what the situation right

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Speaker 2: now is we just have people who the the line

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Speaker 2: from the Trump surrogates is agree with everything, or you're

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Speaker 2: a trader, and and never happen, and twenty twenty never happens.

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Speaker 2: And I sit here and I say, I've supported Trump

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Speaker 2: for years. I've supported Trump in ways that have cost me, friends,

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Speaker 2: have cost me, you know, peace of mind, just like

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Speaker 2: walking into events and stuff from psychopaths we're threating, like

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been and I'm just trying to make

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Speaker 2: sure we don't lose again, and that is on it.

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Speaker 1: That is the I would ask. I don't want I

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Speaker 1: think I want to estimate this way though. Look, we

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has a very real chance of picking Alito

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Speaker 1: and Clarence's replacements, Clarence Thomas's replacements on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: There's a very real chance that that could happen in

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Speaker 1: our future. And we have nine Democrats in swing to

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Speaker 1: swing states, and the US sent it up for a

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Speaker 1: vote in twenty twenty four. We can't screw around. This

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Speaker 1: isn't for you know, shits and giggles. This is a

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Speaker 1: real thing for the future of our country in a

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Speaker 1: real fundamental way. And we just can't sit there with

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Speaker 1: John McCain's funeral again, Like it's been five years, so

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Speaker 1: he has been dead. What are you still angry about?

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Speaker 1: Like what kind of a person are you? You just

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Speaker 1: lost Arizona, Carrie Lake just lost Arizona, but mastress los Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So you're a plan is let me release a book

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Speaker 1: when only three states really matter Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Right, A right, we're gonna come back. We're gonna come

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Speaker 1: I think that I think the Republicans need to accept

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Speaker 1: still the planned pattern of fund and it is we

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Speaker 1: To fight for something hard and possibly lose for something

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Speaker 1: Talking about really living January sixth not important. What's important

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Speaker 1: is not the children a woman may have. It's not

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Speaker 1: It's not conversations on things people did at the capital

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Speaker 1: three years ago. The conversation is what's going on for

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Speaker 1: that kid in a classroom today who has that experience

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Speaker 1: of massive learning loss, who is more likely if they

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Speaker 1: work before twenty seventeen. The somebody that's like Chicago, Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: to sit there and have a real conversation about how

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Speaker 1: how are we going to prevent like another COVID from happening?

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Speaker 1: You know, everything Trump ever said in twenty sixteen was

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Speaker 1: true about how we don't have a manufacturing based in

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Speaker 1: this country and we still don't have one, and the

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Speaker 1: job the manufacturing jobs that did come back under Trump

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Speaker 1: didn't come back to the Midwest. They came back to Arizona,

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Speaker 1: to Nevada, to California, to Texas, to Florida. They didn't

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Speaker 1: come back to the rost beels. How are we actually

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Speaker 1: going to make a real positive investment in places that

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Speaker 1: people are just leaving and how are we going to

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Speaker 1: make those How is the federal government the same federal

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Speaker 1: government that killed those places by putting China into into

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Speaker 1: the free trade to the World Trade Organization and giving

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Speaker 1: free trade to China? How are we going to reinstate

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Speaker 1: those people's hopes and fears? Those are the kinds of

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Speaker 1: conversations that need to be happy, you know, we need

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Speaker 1: to have How are we going to protect the border

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Speaker 1: and literally thousands of people on the terrast watchers have

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Speaker 1: crossed our border. Those those are stations that are serious

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Speaker 1: people being in charge of our country as you.

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Speaker 2: I want to there's something I want to ask a

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Speaker 2: meaning to ask you this again, based on what we

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Speaker 2: can see from from the numbers, I'm trying to tell everybody,

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Speaker 2: by the way, and this is just having been close

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Speaker 2: enough to the Afghanistan issue specifically, uh and you know

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Speaker 2: at policy level and everything else being over there, that

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Speaker 2: this idea that talking about the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan

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Speaker 2: is gonna win us votes. I think it's crazy because ultimately,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't want to hear this,

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Speaker 2: but we're not in Afghanistan anymore. That's the truth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're not there, so we can talk about that, the

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Speaker 2: withdrawal and it was a mess, and it was you know,

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Speaker 2: it was the people in charge look like idiots. Yes,

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Speaker 2: all true, but that's not gonna win us the election.

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Speaker 2: Right Ukraine? How does Ukraine factor into all this? Do

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Speaker 2: people care and if they care enough that it matters

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Speaker 2: for the election, what does it look like for us

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Speaker 2: to try to use the Ukraine issue in order to show,

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Speaker 1: Well more important analyst wars our Pentagon has even stated

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Speaker 1: we don't have military equipment left anymore given it all

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Speaker 1: and we are doing this at to borrowing the money

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you can. You've got to win a

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Speaker 1: I think the map is so good. The map is

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Speaker 1: excellent this time around. You have so many opportunities to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: What's the Is there any place where we could try

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Speaker 2: to steal one out of their kitchen cupboard, if you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Is there any place we could

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Speaker 2: pick up a seat where it'll really piss the Democrats off?

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Speaker 2: Because that's always exciting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we have the chance of Arizona because

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Speaker 1: Democrat last time. You don't have Georgia this time. I

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Speaker 1: think it's in twenty six but you do. You have

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Speaker 1: a ton of places.

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Speaker 2: There's like that's five, Arizona is kind of what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Arizona would be like that would be a morale win too,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to pick up a Senate

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Speaker 2: Yeah there, I was.

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Speaker 1: Just there for school board stuff. Yeah, it would be

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Speaker 1: a huge win. And it's totally possible. And I think

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Speaker 1: cinema hates the Democrats more than shades the Republicans, so

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Speaker 1: we have always be huge And I think that there's

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Speaker 1: other by Hampshire's up to which would be a huge win.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had to win there in since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: as when we lost our Senate seat. There wasn't that

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Speaker 1: long ago. Pennsylvania is up, it was a tougher, tougher road.

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Speaker 1: Michigan is an open seat. That would be great if

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Speaker 1: it's possible. Wisconsin is up, I believe as well. So

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Speaker 1: there's there's nine states right there that are swing states,

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Speaker 1: red states that if you have a red weave with

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Speaker 1: run anybody who's even less unpopular. You know, even in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen we picked up Senate seats, so it's totally

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Speaker 1: possible we had a net game for three sentence seats

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Speaker 1: I believe it was, and there were two sentence seats

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Speaker 1: in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take this closing happy meal from Gradusky

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Speaker 2: here gratefully and not ask him any more questions. It's like,

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Speaker 2: just has no chance, Trump has no chance, it gets by,

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Speaker 2: and there was a little depressing the Senate. However, looking

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Speaker 2: good for us, folks. So take that one home with you,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's those better days ahead. I promise

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Speaker 2: Roan Gerdusky go check out the seventeen seventy six project pack,

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Speaker 2: always like how do I spell his name? I'm like, ah,

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Speaker 2: it's close enough, some kind of polish thing for Dusky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's ten percent polishly handy.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck,