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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is not Dan Hansis.

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Speaker 1: I'm Colleen Wolf and I am joined by room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, gang, Hey, Colleen?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? That was right? That was seamless. It

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Speaker 1: was like, who needs Dan with that kind of intro?

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Speaker 1: Is in the Dominican Republican fields? Just a tremor in

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Speaker 1: um left me with very simple but specific instructions. And

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Speaker 1: Don't shine too bright. That's uh, don't shine too bright

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Speaker 1: we have a huge show today. We're gonna be going

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Speaker 1: through all the wild card games, some previews, and of

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Speaker 1: some really surprising news that came down last night, of course.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let's check in behind

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Speaker 1: the glass, Sydney. What's going on. I'm filling the girl

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Speaker 1: The Buccaneers have fired head coach love Smith after just

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Speaker 1: two seasons. That prompted an outpouring of player tweets and

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Speaker 1: But what a move? This was? What's going on with this? Wes?

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Speaker 1: You know, I was shocked by this. At a month ago,

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Speaker 1: for Sean Payton. I mean I think he should stay.

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Speaker 1: you have a game this weekend, and who do you want?

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Speaker 1: Do you want the Seahawks? Do you want the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: or do you want Seahawks? Why? What are you talking

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Speaker 1: about it? They're they're winning with offense, I know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, what team are they playing? Say? I'm

429
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Speaker 1: just not to cut you off. I'm just saying, if

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Speaker 1: you're taking a team right now for this weekend, you

431
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Speaker 1: you gotta roll just with one defense with a dfen.

432
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Speaker 1: You're a coach, do you want the Seahawks, the Texas,

433
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Cardinals? Like? Who who do you think? Interesting?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't even put the Seahawks in the discussion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Seahawks are winning because they're scoring thirty

436
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Speaker 1: five points every week. Plus the Chief's offensive line right now,

437
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Speaker 1: they can't protect anything. So if you have J. J. Watt,

438
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Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless, I mean, Alex Smith is going to have

439
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Speaker 1: a really hard time. They can only run block, they

440
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Speaker 1: can not pass protect. So when you look at the

441
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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in this game and you have Marcus Peters

442
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Speaker 1: on the other side, what do you think the matchup

443
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Speaker 1: will be like here for Jeremy Macklin and Alex Smith

444
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Speaker 1: going up against the Texas defense. I I don't love

445
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Speaker 1: the matchup for the Chiefs. I don't love the matchup

446
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Speaker 1: for either offense in this game. I think it's I'd

447
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Speaker 1: be surprised if either team scores more than fifteen points

448
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Speaker 1: in this game. Wow. I just the defenses are and

449
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Speaker 1: the offenses. I mean We've said this before. The Texans

450
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Speaker 1: offense is smoking mirrors and DeAndre Hopkins. That's all it is.

451
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Speaker 1: They average, they're running back Trio is averaging five point

452
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Speaker 1: four yards percare over the last month. But they're doing

453
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Speaker 1: it against bad defenses, and they've been shut down against

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Speaker 1: teams like the Patriots and the Chiefs. I mean they're

455
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Speaker 1: scoring three they're scoring ten points against the Chargers, They're

456
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Speaker 1: scoring only a few points against a couple other teams.

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Speaker 1: I don't love the Chiefs offense right now, Greg said

458
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Speaker 1: before the podcast. And Alex Smith played two of his

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Speaker 1: worst games of the season in the last two We right,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Alex Fmith getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit right now. And he is, you know, one of,

462
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Speaker 1: if not the most valuable running back, I mean running

463
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Speaker 1: quarterback uh in the a f I would say he's

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Speaker 1: the most valuable in the a f C. I put

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Speaker 1: him there. You know, he's maybe just with Cam Newton

466
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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson in terms of the NFL. I mean,

467
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Speaker 1: he gets those first downs. I give Andy Reid most

468
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Speaker 1: of the credit here. It seems like every week the

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Speaker 1: first fifteen plays, which is the big you know, tradition

470
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Speaker 1: in those West Coast offenses, they dial it up and

471
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Speaker 1: they go right down the field and they get a

472
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Speaker 1: fourteen nothing lead or something like that, and then they

473
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Speaker 1: sit on it and they don't do anything the rest

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Speaker 1: of the game. Alex Smith threw two awful interceptions last week.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the reasons that they were still

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Speaker 1: that game was remotely close late in the week. He's

477
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Speaker 1: not being protected very very well. But I look at

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Speaker 1: the tech the Texans and I think they're an even

479
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Speaker 1: bigger trouble. Uh. Their offensive lines not playing particularly well,

480
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Speaker 1: and that was with Dwayne Brown and Brian Hoyers faced

481
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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure lately. And then the different and says,

482
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Speaker 1: you gotta now face Justin Houston, who's coming back this week.

483
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Speaker 1: Sounds like d Ford's gonna play, sounds like Tom bat

484
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Speaker 1: Ali's gonna play. And I think that pass rest group

485
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Speaker 1: is just as good as the Texas. I mean, d

486
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Speaker 1: Ford has been fantastic. I listen, I hear you on

487
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, because that trails back to a Network hit

488
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Speaker 1: that we did yesterday where we stuck up for Alex

489
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Speaker 1: Smith as being more than a game manager this season,

490
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Speaker 1: and last week was his worst game of the year.

491
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Speaker 1: By far, he's thrown four interceptions total since Week ten.

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Speaker 1: Two of them came last week. He's been pretty much

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Speaker 1: mistake free, and Cam Newton ran for what seventy eight

494
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Speaker 1: yards on this Texans defense in Week two. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a factor with a running quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I'm not calling him. I don't think Alex Smith running

497
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks the same way that Russell space. They are materially different.

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Speaker 1: Defense they are, I just think too. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Week two as any there. They are so different from

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Speaker 1: Halloween on. I don't even I'm not saying they're the

501
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Speaker 1: same defense, but the element of a quarterback then get

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket when you're not protecting merciless and

503
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Speaker 1: what crashing from the outside. I think that's very true

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Speaker 1: that the running that the quarterback can run through the

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Speaker 1: middle possibly the way there are. Thing is, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: Macklin has made a difference. He's almost doubled his Smith

507
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Speaker 1: has almost doubled his throws of twenty plus yards this year. Now,

508
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Speaker 1: it couldn't have gotten any worse than last year, so

509
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Speaker 1: it's not that impressive. He's about forty this season, but

510
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Speaker 1: I mean they're a little bit more explosive. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that stat that Macklin only has one drop with

512
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Speaker 1: one and twenty targets. He's so good. I think he

513
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Speaker 1: only has two drops in the last two seasons. Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: He's been good in the postseason, and I think he

515
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Speaker 1: has nine touchdowns zero interceptions, but he's never faced a

516
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Speaker 1: defense like this. Plus their schedule. You know, everybody's talking

517
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Speaker 1: about how they went from one in five to eleven

518
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Speaker 1: and five, but that schedule was so easy, and the

519
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Speaker 1: Texan schedule was so easy to towards the end when

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Speaker 1: they really started heating up. So it's really hard to

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Speaker 1: really assess these two teams. That's how they'll play against

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Speaker 1: each other. I mean, some of the Houston defensive prowess

523
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Speaker 1: of late, where they're giving up six points in like

524
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Speaker 1: forty seven games, is coming against the Jaguars, the Titans.

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Speaker 1: It's not just coming against the Saints. In the Bengal

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Speaker 1: it is And when they played New England they got

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Speaker 1: a bomb dropped on him, so you know it's not

528
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Speaker 1: gonna be an easy path. The New England game was

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Speaker 1: also the week that J. J. Watt broke his hand.

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Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless has been the difference to me because to

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Speaker 1: have another really great pass rusher with what just makes

532
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Speaker 1: them so much more dangerous. Jadeveon Clowney was playing really well,

533
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Speaker 1: maybe not always rushing the pastor, but added another dimension.

534
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Speaker 1: He's a big factor whether he can play. I looked

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Speaker 1: it up while you were talking, uh, Mark, to see

536
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Speaker 1: who's had the most running value according to qb R.

537
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor barely edged out Alex Smith for the most

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Speaker 1: running value in the According to Profoleball Focus, they have

539
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Tyrod, Russell Wilson, and then Alex Smith is fourth.

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Speaker 1: So that's the that's the sort of companies keeping. I

541
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Speaker 1: think they have more offensive weapons though. I mean they

542
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Speaker 1: have Kelsey, they have Macklin, they have Smith running uh

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Speaker 1: they have a better running right in five point six

544
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Speaker 1: yards per carry and has really quick feet for a

545
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Speaker 1: big guy. I think the Chiefs are a significantly better

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Speaker 1: team because I think they have more defensive weapons, and

547
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Speaker 1: I think if you look at the defense as a whole,

548
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Speaker 1: they're better. I think they've got different disagree with it,

549
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Speaker 1: and they've got difference makers up front, especially with Houston

550
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: coming back this week. Jay Howard has been playing great

551
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: the whole defensive line great. Then they have difference makers

552
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Speaker 1: in the middle, which I really don't think the Texans have.

553
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: You're sleeping on Bernardick McKinney. He's been playing pretty well.

554
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: Derek Johnson is playing great. John and Joseph should have

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: been a pro bowler this year. Kevin Johnson is playing well.

556
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Speaker 1: Their secondary is playing really well. It's okay if we disagree. Yeah,

557
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Speaker 1: I think that it's it's indisputable that the Chief's offense

558
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: is better than the text, but I think the Texans

559
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: defense is better. They have J. J. Watton the Chief stole.

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Speaker 1: Which coach do you trust more of these two? I

561
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Speaker 1: think it's close. I would say Bill O'Brien has been

562
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Speaker 1: very impressive, but I go read. I mean they've want

563
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Speaker 1: to They've won ten in a row. I think everyone's

564
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Speaker 1: looking right path and I see why. But everyone just

565
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Speaker 1: looks right past the Chiefs both of these teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true, and I I'm not saying it's Chiefs by

567
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Speaker 1: a mile. On defense, I would give their secondary a

568
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Speaker 1: little bit of an edge the way Markus Peter is playing.

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Speaker 1: In the depth theory of Sean Smith. You have Eric

570
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: Barry playing well. It's just they have numbers everywhere. I'm

571
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Speaker 1: I'm not looking past the Chiefs. I think I think

572
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Speaker 1: they'll win this game, and I and I think they'll

573
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Speaker 1: have a chance to beat whoever they play in the

574
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Speaker 1: next round. I just think the Texans O'Brien has done

575
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Speaker 1: an amazing jazz getting them to this point. So is

576
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Speaker 1: read in a big spot like this. I almost trust

577
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Speaker 1: O'Brien Moore because Andy Reid will throw in some game.

578
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Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a weird clock management, clock management

579
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Speaker 1: or I mean, he's a good, great coach overall, but

580
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Speaker 1: there's always something, all right, So we are going to

581
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Speaker 1: play a little bit of a game here. So West,

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Speaker 1: I have to ask you if you're ready for more?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, all right? What's more likely J? J. Watt

584
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Speaker 1: and Whitney Merciless combined for at least four sacks on

585
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith or the Chiefs defense forces at least three

586
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Speaker 1: turnovers from Brian Hoyer alone. Interesting, that's a complicated one.

587
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the three turnovers, just sticking with

588
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: my theme. Hoyer has played pretty well overall. He's definitely

589
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: not made big mistakes. I think that's the best thing

590
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: about him. So I think both of these are are

591
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: somewhat unlikely. Alex Smith gets rid of the ball so

592
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: quickly it's tough to sack him. But Alex Smith is

593
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Speaker 1: one of the most sect quarterbacks in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: a fair point. Um. I'm just thinking, like the quick drops,

595
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: they get rid of it quickly. But either way, I'm

596
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: gonna take take the Chief's defense. I think they're ready

597
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: to show Jonathan Grimes and you know your boys on

598
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: the Texans offense that they're not really I'm taking the

599
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Speaker 1: Texans duo here. I mean, they're like the best at

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Speaker 1: this right now. I mean when you look at the

601
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: way that they're able to pass rush, the way that

602
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: they're able to put pressure on quarterbacks, and the fact

603
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: that that, oh so the offensive line there in Kansas

604
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: City is bombination. So I'm going with him. Yeah, this

605
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: is a playoff game in Houston. This is a team

606
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Speaker 1: that was written off by a lot of people early

607
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Speaker 1: in the year. They're the hard knocks team. J J.

608
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Speaker 1: Watt has been either feeling it or ash completely posing

609
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: all year long. He's gonna get the job done. He's

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get at least three sacks. I think Whitney

611
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Speaker 1: gets the other one. I'd like how Greg's whipping boy

612
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: for two years, Eric Fisher is suddenly able to hold

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Speaker 1: off J. J. Watt and Whitney merciless. All Right, So

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Chiefs in this game. I know it's

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's sort of a toss up, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean though hearing this discussion, I may have changed

617
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Speaker 1: my mind, but I think I'm gonna stick with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Whore you're taking I I have taken the Chiefs. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: let's throw a score and for no reason at all,

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Speaker 1: twenty three to I'm going Chiefs seventeen to sixteen. Uh,

621
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Speaker 1: that's a tough one. But so they're also really so

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Speaker 1: why is that down the middle? I picked? I picked

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Speaker 1: a wind. It was just as close as it could be.

624
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Speaker 1: Greg is an outrageous, obnoxious individual at this point. But

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Speaker 1: I'm going Chiefs. And I'll tell you what, it's tough.

626
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of road teams that you have to

627
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Speaker 1: pick this week. If you think about it, one of

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Speaker 1: the Texans thirteen Chiefs twelve. The only touchdown of the

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Speaker 1: game is going to be either a gadget play touchdown

630
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Speaker 1: by a chem Hunt or a defensive Wow. Alright, moving

631
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Speaker 1: on to the Steelers and the Bengals. It is the

632
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: fifth annual West of this. Everybody's excited about this four

633
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Speaker 1: years running. This will be the fifth and Marvin Lewis

634
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: he said it's time to right the ship. Then he

635
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Speaker 1: mentioned something about exorcism. So after starting eight and oh

636
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Speaker 1: the Bengals, they finished out the year four and four.

637
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Speaker 1: Now the only way to spoil West's favorite day of

638
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: the year, the Bengals have to beat the Steelers. Mark

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Speaker 1: is this the year it is? West? I am happy

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Speaker 1: to announce it is not the year. Yes, not in

641
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: my mind. Not in my mind. Although this game, this game,

642
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Bengals because while a G

643
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: McCarron is not a it necessarily a big downgrade from

644
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. The team that went eight no, is not

645
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Speaker 1: the team that we're seeing right now on the field

646
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Speaker 1: on offense. It is on defense. But I picked the

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Speaker 1: Steelers to win by a very slight margin. And it's

648
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: tough with these divisional games, is if the other game

649
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: is tough to pick When you get a Steelers and

650
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Bengals team to the teams that both have faults, I mean, really,

651
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers secondary is a huge weakness and maybe one

652
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: of the weakest groups of any of these playoff teams

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Speaker 1: that we have this weekend. But can the Bengals take

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Speaker 1: advantage of that With mccaren at quarterback. I think they're

655
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna get their points. But I just trust in a

656
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: game like this in January, two teams division rivals know

657
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: each other so well. I understand the Big Ben has

658
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: had his mistakes of late. A lot has been said

659
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: of that. I think he's gonna be a different guy

660
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: this week. He's gonna play good and they're gonna win.

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00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: The big question for me that with Pittsburgh for that

662
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: to happen is the running game with which, with potentially

663
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: no D'Angelo Williams, could put them in the same position

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Speaker 1: they were in last year when they lost the playoff

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Speaker 1: game to the Ravens. The Bengals, they've been really good

666
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: at limiting Antonio Bryant or Antonio Brown so well. They

667
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: have mar Martavis Bryant that needs to step up, and

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00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: you don't have a running game. To me, that seems

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Speaker 1: like the Bengals can really take advantage of that offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think when we talked about defense is

671
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Speaker 1: in the last segment. Why were the Bengals not mentioned there?

672
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: They're the second lowest scoring defense in the league, only

673
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: a tenth of a point behind the Seahawks, and it's

674
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: not a fluke. They give up yardage, but they're not

675
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: a team that you know, they're not a bend, but

676
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: don't break defense either. They're extremely They got three first

677
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: rounders in the secondary. I think that they can they

678
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: can limit the Steelers, but for me, it comes down

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00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: to mistakes and I don't think the Big Bend's gonna

680
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: have one of these two or three interception games. Well,

681
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: they tested that the last time they played. I thought

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00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: it was one of the more impressive Roethlisberger games of

683
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: the year in a sneaky way because they backed off,

684
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: they prevented the big play and he had to be

685
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: patient and just moved the ball down the field over

686
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Speaker 1: and over on short passes, which is just not how

687
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers had to operate all year, and he did it.

688
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: They put up thirty three points on the board. With

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Speaker 1: that said that, that's a tough route to do that

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: over and over again, and I think it does matter

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Speaker 1: how the Bengals have matched up against Pittsburgh this year.

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Speaker 1: This is when they had a running game back in

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Speaker 1: November and then this last match up, and Roethlisberger has

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Speaker 1: one touchdown and four interceptions against the Bengals this year,

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Speaker 1: So that I think that's that's a legitimate, uh dat

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00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: a point that the Bengals defense no at least how

697
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: to slow them down, because that's two games where they

698
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Speaker 1: basically didn't hit any big plays. In one of those

699
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: games they only had ten points, which you just don't

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00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: see out of Pittsburgh. Come on, stop, doesn't that count?

701
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Sure it counts. But so if I'll make too much

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00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: of Ben Roethlisberger's interceptions this year, he attacks defense is

703
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: like no other quarterback, but he didn't in that last window.

704
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: He's taking it and you're right, he didn't. Last game,

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Speaker 1: Heath Miller had eight receptions by halftime list right, and

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Speaker 1: he did a great job and they still won handily. Right.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the best games of

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Speaker 1: the year because of it. It was also, you know,

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Speaker 1: the game that Andy Dalton got hurt. So it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a tough game to kind of take too much

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00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: out of because you just threw mccaren into it in

712
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the game. Before that. It's tough to

713
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Speaker 1: take anything out of it because Big Ben rushed back

714
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: from a leg injury and wasn't the same, So you

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Speaker 1: can't take much out of that game either. Here's another

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Speaker 1: data point, NB, Roethlisberger for you, three points to passing

717
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: yards per game this season, the third most in NFL history,

718
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: and that comes from taking those shots down field. And

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00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: you're right with Brown He's not been the same these

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Speaker 1: two games against the Bengals, but he's been on absolutely

721
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: on fire of late. And what he had ten catches

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00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: alone against the Browns last week in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And I just if you if he gets on, if

724
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: he gets free, this game could be over. How bad

725
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: will it be if D'Angelo Williams can't go and they

726
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: have Jordan Todman there and Fitzgerald Toussant rushing. On the surface,

727
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: it looks terrible, but we this is fits Tusson is

728
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: a complete unknown. It's not a good sign when you're

729
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: starting running back. Is also like a New Orleans jazz musician.

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Speaker 1: Their points out there on Bourbon Street, people throwing the

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Speaker 1: quarters in the can with the fair point. That is it?

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Speaker 1: That is thank you? All right? So Mark, you have

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Speaker 1: for us a more Okay, what is more likely the

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00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Bengals lose in convincing fashion and Marvin Lewis retires within

735
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the week, or A J. McCarron throws four touchdowns and

736
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Speaker 1: keeps his job over Dalton next week. M Well one

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00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: implies that the Bengals are gonna win a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: So I'll take the other one. We're going there. There

739
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: is no indication that Marvin Lewis would ever be retiring,

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: so I don't care what happens. I mean, they didn't

741
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: get rid of him after the year where he had

742
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: the big power struggle with Mike Brown. They didn't get

743
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: it after a couple of losing seasons. There's no reason

744
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: to think that he would they would get rid of him,

745
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: or he would quit after another playoff loss. So I'm

746
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: going with mccaren even though I don't really believe that

747
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: would happen either, because because the thing we didn't talk

748
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: about it I was mccaren is coming off his worst game.

749
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: He was really hesitant. Uh in that game against the Ravens.

750
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Whatever they showed him on defense was like confusing his

751
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: brain because he was wild weird. Because that hasn't happened

752
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: all year. Really, right, he was really slow to make

753
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: any decisions. He was like very amped up early in

754
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: the game throwing these fastballs and really didn't make a

755
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: good throw the whole game. He he didn't have a

756
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: lot to do. They didn't. They kind of coached around.

757
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. But it worried me that he was

758
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: so slow to make any decisions. I need to know officially,

759
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: if you're going to back the Bengals in the playoffs

760
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: for a third straight year, well, well we'll do that

761
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: when we go around to make I'm gonna say I'm

762
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna go with mccaren in this one. Um, I don't

763
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: really think he's going to throw four touchdowns. He's only

764
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: thrown six. Um, but there's no way that Marvin Lewis retires.

765
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: There's no way. And was it riding off in the

766
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: sunset or just retiring. That wouldn't really be a sunset.

767
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: It would be more like El Nino showing up and apocalyptic.

768
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: That is very true. Oh, I already said mine. Alright,

769
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna win a playoff game and that's

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00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: not happening. Is an idiot. I am gonna ruin West

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: of Us and I'm going to take the Bengals in

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00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: this game. I know it's not a popular choice. They

773
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff game since, but I'm taking them anyway.

774
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Bengals as well. WHOA, that's for

775
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: the heck of it, just because everyone is taking This

776
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: is my second favorite tradition behind with too many road favorites.

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00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: This week all the all the favorites are the road teams.

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00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't even mention the Bengals just have

779
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: so many good players. Can some of them just step up?

780
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlett, Mo Jones, uh A J. Green,

781
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard, Jeremy Hill. Make it so that A. J.

782
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Mccaren doesn't have to do that much. These guys just

783
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: play the best games of their life. They're so overdue

784
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: to just win one of these. This is Margaret lewis

785
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: is seventh playoff game. That is an outrageous number to

786
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: lose every single one of them. So it's just lose

787
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: by an average of thirteen points per game. In the playoff.

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: The Bengals have only allowed three touchdowns over the last

789
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: six weeks. I mean, their defense is legit in like

790
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Dunlap and I mean the two. Their defensive line is

791
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: second behind the plain well who knows things, just got

792
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: a creditive team for shutting down Ryan Maw. I hope

793
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: I'm wrong too, because I just my Patriots. I'm with

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00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm with West. I have the Steelers winning twenty will

795
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: not be a game where people look shamefully on the Bengals,

796
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: though they will battle. I think the Bengals will battle.

797
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: People have made way too much of the Steelers last

798
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: two games. This idea that the Browns played them close

799
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: is totally false. The Steelers dominated that game. The Ravens game,

800
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown loses a touchdown to the catch role. Martavis

801
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Bryant loses a touchdown to a defensive pass interference penalty.

802
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: On the last drive of the game, Artavis Bryant comes

803
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: up just shy of a really deep ball that would

804
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: have put the Steelers in position to win the game.

805
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: All of these players are plays They've made all year,

806
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: and I expect them to make them. I go Steelers

807
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: thirty Bengals twenty three. All right, let's move on to

808
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: the NFC games on Sunday. First up, we have the

809
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Vikings. For the fourth straight year. The

810
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks are in the playoffs, winning eight of their last ten,

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00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: including last week's drubbing of the Arizona Cardinals. Now they

812
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: face the NFC North champion Vikings, who hosts a playoff

813
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: game for the first time in nine years. It's gonna

814
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: be like zero degrees. Greg. Is this the worst possible

815
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: scenario for Minnesota. No, because they shouldn't be ashamed to

816
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: lose to the best franchise in the NFL over the

817
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: last four years. And this Seahawks team, I really believe

818
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: it is as good this year, at this moment as

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00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: they were when they won the Super Bowl, and when

820
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: they were one play away from winning the Super Bowl,

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00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: and even the two thousand twelve team, which I think

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00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: was good enough to win the Super Bowl if if

823
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: a few things broke a little differently, that's how good

824
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: this team is. It's a little different because, as West said,

825
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: it's the offense. Now that's a top three or five offense.

826
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: But where I disagree with us is the Seahawks defense

827
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: would be the defense I took if I could pick

828
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: one for the playoffs, because I know they haven't been

829
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: the best all season, but they still have the best

830
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: players in the best scheme, and they've done it, and

831
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: they've shown us enough this year. Uh you know, Frank

832
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: Clark for instance, has been stepping up the pass rush

833
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: I think is better than ever. Then I just think

834
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: this this could be the best team in the NFL.

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00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think this game is going to be

836
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: that fun to watch because of it. Well, we saw

837
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: back in Week thirteen thirty eight to seven, but that game,

838
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota had a lot of guys out on defense. So

839
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: they're getting a lot of these guys back. I feel

840
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: like it will be a little bit different. It's not

841
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: gonna be such a shootout. It was only a shootout

842
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: on one side for the for the week third team game. Well,

843
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. But I think even

844
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: bigger factor is I think that a minus ten or

845
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: fifteen degree windshield changes a lot and really affects the game.

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00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: David Carr said while we were over in the studio

847
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: that players just move a lot more slowly when it's

848
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: that cooled. That could be a big factor. But I

849
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks team is plus one nineteen in point

850
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: differential in the second half of the season, which is

851
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: outrageous They've beaten their last three playoff opponents by an

852
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: average score of thirty eight to fourteen. Russ Wilson in

853
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: the pocket over the last seven games in the pocket,

854
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: he's been the best quarterback in the NFL over the

855
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: second half of the season. That's why they're so different

856
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: than last year's Seahawks team. I feel like they've done

857
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: it without Marshawn Lynch, and they've done it with a

858
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: collection to back. Suddenly Christin Michael. You know, they spread

859
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: out wide receivers and Kristin Michael blasts up the middle

860
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: for forty five yards. Last week was one of the

861
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: first weeks watching game pass where they cut over to

862
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians on the sidelines and he just looked baffled.

863
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: He looked confused and upset. And they out Cardinal the

864
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals last week. I thought they used all their players

865
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: and what they did really was also. I thought, with

866
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: field position with Tyler Lockett, if he breaks one or

867
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: two of these returns and puts them up and you know,

868
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: to go thirty five forty yards for a touchdown, you

869
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: get up by ten points on the vikings. I don't

870
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: understand how Minnesota crawls back into this game. Well, he's

871
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: He's what they wanted Percy Harvan to be. He is

872
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: that guy already. That's that's what that's why they're a

873
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: great organization. They had a big swing in US. They

874
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: went for a home run and they blew it with

875
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Harvard and they quickly cut bait on it and then

876
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: what happens just a year later they drafted. But I'm

877
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: not saying he's as physical as Percy Harvin, but they

878
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: have a very he's a very good deep threat. He's

879
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: already developed more as a receiver than they ever expected

880
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: as a as a rookie, and he has reached that

881
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: Harvin Hester type mode now that every time he catches

882
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: a return you want to watch it because you're thinking,

883
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: is he going to break this one? Is he gonna

884
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: get them in great field position. He's a lot of

885
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: fun to watch. You look at Doug Baldwin, what he's

886
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: been able to do eleven of his fourteen touchdown catches

887
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: over the last six weeks. Him and Russell Wilson just

888
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: have something special going on. Plus, if you have Marshawn

889
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: Lynch back in that weather, you're gonna be running the ball.

890
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: So it really could actually be Adrian Peterson running the ball,

891
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch running the ball. Will really see what could

892
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: happen between those two. Yeah, man, I realized that Lynch

893
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: was rehabbing, so it's not like he was resting and getting,

894
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, necessarily stronger. So we have to see what

895
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: sort of condition he's in. And it's not a pristine

896
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: opening scenaro from to come in and play in negative

897
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: ten degrees, that's sort of a nightmare for anyone. But

898
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: really it doesn't hurt that he's not had to take

899
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: a beating for seven or eight weeks either. Darryll Bevil

900
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: was asked yesterday their offensive coordinator, if Marshawn Lynch would

901
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: be ready for and Bevil said, if he's playing, I

902
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: expect him to go full go, full speed, He'll be

903
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: ready for. The Devil, by the way, has done a

904
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: great job in the second half of the season. He's

905
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's gotten picked on a lot, certainly after

906
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but Marshawn Lynch is But they've been

907
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: they've been an offensive teams don't know what's coming. You

908
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: said that, Bruce arians was was confused if we were

909
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna try to make the case for the Vikings to

910
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: be close. I mean the weather You're right is he's

911
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: a factor if I mean, that's exactly what the Vikings want,

912
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: because they they play nineteen seventies Vikings style football more

913
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: than any team in the league. I mean, the passing

914
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: game is so deemphasized with them, even when they're going well,

915
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: it's not the reason why they're winning. And you could

916
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: look at the if you were the Vikings, you could

917
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: at least look at the Rams and think Ram Seahawks

918
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: game and think maybe Robust and Joseph and Floyd and

919
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: ever said Griffin and Anthony Bart, maybe they could dominate

920
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offensive line enough up front that it just

921
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: keeps the game close and it keeps the game kind

922
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: of on the ground, and the best running back wins.

923
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: And maybe that running back is Adrian Peterson. If you're

924
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: notice case you would make I noticed that Teddy Bridgewater

925
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't come out of your mouth there. I said they

926
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: were d emphasized as much as possible. I was waiting

927
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: for you, so go ahead on Teddy. He I mean,

928
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: come on, last week. The three biggest plays the Vikings

929
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: had in that game where a fumble return, a kickoff return,

930
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: and a fake punt. None of them involved the offense

931
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: or Teddy Bridgewater. Against top five defenses this season, they've

932
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: been outscored seven. I don't trust their quarterback one bit.

933
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Plus he's been sacked twenty four times over the last

934
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: eight games. And I keep hearing about him having small

935
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: hands in cold weather. This is the thing, a big glove. Alright,

936
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: So I am going to give you guys, are all right,

937
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, We'll have more yards rushing than Teddy Bridgewater

938
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: has passing, or Mike Wallace has more catches than Sunday's

939
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: high temperature in Minneapolis. Can you repeat that? Okay, Marshawn Lynch,

940
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: We'll have more yards rushing than Teddy Bridgewater has passing,

941
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: or Mike Wallace has more catches than Sunday's high temperature

942
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Does the wind sholl count No, it's let's temperature.

943
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: Let's just don't have negative catch. Let's say let's say

944
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: the temperature is going to be one. Yeah, well, I'm

945
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna go Willace because of that. I'm going to bet

946
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: on a really low uh temperature, you know, two or

947
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: three degrees and uh maybe Mike Wallace, well one degree

948
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: or no degree and Mike Wallace catches one pass, I

949
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean Wallace has had three catches twice

950
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: since week eight and every other week less. So if

951
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: it gets out to three degrees, you're in trouble there.

952
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: Greg pushes to the midwest for a little bit, and

953
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: you raise up the temperature to like four degrees. I'm

954
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: gonna go Lynch over. I'm gonna go Lynch with more

955
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: ground yards than Teddy passing because there's been a ton

956
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: of games where the Vikings seem to win even in

957
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: the ninety eight yards to the air, and I think

958
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: that they're going to completely as Greg said, de emphasized

959
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater this game and Lynch. You know, it fits

960
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: the narrative of something that we'll be writing about all

961
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: next week. It comes back out of nowhere and runs

962
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: for a hundred thirty seven yards, hundred and fifty yards

963
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. I mean, that's not Teddy Bridge. Rider

964
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: is not Joe Webb. That's the last quarterback that started

965
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: for a Viking demon. I know he only had ninety

966
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: nine yards last week, but that's pretty rare. I think

967
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: that's the only time I'm looking to tell you, maybe

968
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: you probably took the better side of it with this

969
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: question is so hard to add answer because it's ridiculous.

970
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a great question. Mr. Here's

971
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: here's a mind blowing totat Russell Wilson's passer rating is

972
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: thirty three point seven points higher without Russell Lynch in

973
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: the lineup. It's actually twenty two points higher without man.

974
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without without Marshawn Lynch, actually twenty two points

975
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: higher without Jimmy Graham. But I don't think they need

976
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: I don't think they need Marshawn Lynch to win. I'm

977
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna go Wallace just because one cat plus the Vikings

978
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: defensive line, they haven't been that great against the run,

979
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: especially if Linval Joseph is not going to be in

980
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: there and healthy, then yeah, I think Marshawn Lynch has

981
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a shot there. All right, let's let's do picks here.

982
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking um Seattle. I think we all are. Yeah,

983
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking Seattle thirty two ten. I'll go Seattle twenty

984
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: three twenty. I think the Vikings are going to give

985
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: a bigger fight than people think. I went when I

986
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: wrote the prediction on the site, I went Seattle twenty

987
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: seven seventeen. But for the benefit of our subreddit fans,

988
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Seahawks to two. And they accounts for

989
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: online does it? I'm just wow. All right, let's move

990
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: on to the final game on Sunday, the Packers and

991
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: the Redskins. The Green Bay Packers have lost two straight.

992
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: The defense has to get the offense out of jams,

993
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: which is not a great scenario at all, and they'll

994
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: have to do it against Kirk Cousins and the Redskins.

995
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: All right, the same Redskins team who who's confidence but

996
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: have yet to beat a team with a winning record,

997
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: Greg Will Kirk Cousins be playing more January football than

998
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Well you will will have to wait for

999
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: the big picks at the end. But it is amazing

1000
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: that the only home favorite this weekend is a team

1001
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacked by Kirk Cousins against the two time m v P.

1002
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Now they're barely favored. It's a point. But I think

1003
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people look at these two teams and

1004
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: if you just you know, to throw out the uniforms

1005
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: that the Packers wear, if they put on a bunch

1006
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: of Texans uniforms and he put Hoyer on the back

1007
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers jersey, Like, how would the people be

1008
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: talking about this team going into the playoffs. They'd be

1009
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: talking about him as by far the worst playoff team

1010
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: out of the twelve and one of the worst teams

1011
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: to enter the playoffs in a little while, because it's

1012
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: been a long time since the offense was halfway decent.

1013
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: And yet we just see we see the uniforms, we

1014
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: see a fairly good defense, we see Aaron Rodgers, and

1015
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: we just figure, I don't know, maybe they'll snap out

1016
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: of it. This is also going to be a cold game,

1017
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: so James Jones will probably be wearing some type of parka.

1018
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: I am tired of that hoodie. It's not interesting anymore. Look,

1019
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: if there's one guy who doesn't need a drag on

1020
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: his speed, it's James Jones, all right. So do you

1021
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: think the Redskins they'll have enough ability to get in

1022
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: Roger's face? Because if you look at that offensive line,

1023
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: that's been a mess too. It's just been a revolving

1024
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: door of guys in there. I actually I was incur

1025
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: by their offensive lines performance in the season finale. I

1026
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: didn't think that their line was the biggest problem. The

1027
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: week before it was atrocious at Arizona. So to me,

1028
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: I was actually a little bit encouraged when I watched

1029
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: that game that their line was not beat up. Brian

1030
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Bulaga was back, so they were in better shape. But yeah,

1031
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: I do think the Redskins can get some pressure because

1032
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers is the most hit quarterback since the start of October.

1033
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I look at this Redskins offense and you know, it

1034
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: reminds me, and I'm not calling this next year's great team,

1035
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: but the way that the Panthers played down the stretch

1036
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: last year and overcame a bad start and they were

1037
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: a different team at the end of the year than

1038
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: they were early on, and it transferred into the next season.

1039
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins are starting to put it together

1040
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: and get some mojo. And and I do believe in

1041
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I'm not calling him Aaron Rodgers, but in

1042
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: terms of perceptions, it's almost like we don't want to

1043
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: really acknowledge that Kirk Cousins is doing what he's doing

1044
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: right now, and we don't want to acknowledge that Aaron

1045
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: Rodgers is part of the offense. He's part of But really,

1046
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: you gots have been acknowledging it before even guess it's

1047
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: it's just I think the idea that oh, well, you know,

1048
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: hold on the Green Bay is gonna finally just put

1049
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: forty four points on the board. I think in the room,

1050
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: we don't think that, right. I mean, it's just not

1051
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the public doesn't either, Not that we

1052
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: should be talking too much about, but the Packers started

1053
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: out as a favorite, and everyone just looks at at

1054
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: the Redskins and think they're playing way better. And everyone

1055
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: is taking taking the Redskins in this game because of

1056
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: what we've seen. There's no reason to think that the Packers.

1057
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: And I always think offense wins in the playoffs, not defense,

1058
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: which seems to be the sterega. I'd always take the

1059
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: better offense. And there's no doubt the Redskins have the

1060
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: best offensive players, uh in this game. That the guys

1061
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: playing the best right now. And that's Jordan Reid, that's

1062
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, de Sean Jackson, that's Pierre Garson, that's Cousins,

1063
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it's it's the whole group, you know, as a group,

1064
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: their offense is a much more viable offense than the Packer.

1065
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: It's like, what a time to be alive that this

1066
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: is happening. I think Richard Rogers his slightly unathletic lung

1067
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: into the pylon last should be like the opening video

1068
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: for the Packers season, because it's so symbolic that they

1069
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: have the slowest collection of wide receiver tight end talent

1070
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL and it's the number one problem with

1071
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: this offense. I like, could Gregg put Mike McCarthy as

1072
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: the guy under pressure for this game? Because where where

1073
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: everyone was? It was? It was it Connor. I thought

1074
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: you wrote this, well, never a bad thing to give

1075
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Greg credit for something, especially after you pointed out how

1076
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: obnoxious I was, Well, you're not obnoxious your friend. Um anyways,

1077
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: where was I? But no Mike McCarthy because I just

1078
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: feel like the Packers they don't seem to have and

1079
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: I know this is this maybe doesn't translate to the

1080
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: game itself, but the Redskins are just feeling it right now.

1081
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: They seem to have a kind of an US against

1082
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the world thing where they love the fact that everyone's

1083
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: rooting against them and feels like there are a nothing team.

1084
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: And the Packers to me last week that Vikings game boring.

1085
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot going on with this offense,

1086
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: and and Mike McCarthy taking over the play calling was

1087
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: supposed to flip the switch. Same with Eddie Lacy getting

1088
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: healthy and getting unfat at the end of the year.

1089
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: But nothing's really done it well Aaron Rodgers, it's just

1090
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: like he doesn't have he doesn't trust his receivers, which

1091
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: I can't blame him for that, but I feel like

1092
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: he at the beginning of the season had to extend

1093
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: so many plays because nobody was open and nothing was happening.

1094
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: And now he's almost continued to do that, and so

1095
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: it's really hurt him because he feels so much pressure

1096
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: and I think he still feels pressure when pressure isn't

1097
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: even there. He Here's the argument for the Packers, and

1098
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I think they have a good chance to win this game,

1099
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: is that you're right, they're having to improvise a lot,

1100
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: and they're having to you know, not nothing is happening

1101
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: in the structure of their offense where it's just a

1102
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: good timing. I mean, the Redskins defense is not a

1103
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: particularly good defense. It's a below average defense. Over the

1104
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: course of the season, they're there twenty first in Football

1105
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: Outsiders Metric. They don't really scare you with their pass rush.

1106
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: Over for all, they're not a particularly great secondary. I

1107
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: don't think they're terrible, but they're below average. And I

1108
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: think this is a team where maybe Rogers can get

1109
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: some time and he can bring back a little bit

1110
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: of that September magic where he was just making incredible

1111
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: individual plays, and maybe you don't need to have a

1112
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: perfect offense to work against what's ultimately a pretty vanilla

1113
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: Redskins defense. If you're going to take a defense in

1114
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: this game, I think you have to take the Packers.

1115
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing better on defense, Mike Neils playing well,

1116
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Mike Daniels. Overall, I think the Packers are are a

1117
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: much better defense than Washington. Redskins lost Kishon Jarrett. That

1118
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: doesn't help. They have Carrie Williams potentially in the lineup.

1119
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: How about that. That's not that's gonna be great news

1120
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, old Sconsin is back there. Look,

1121
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: you know everybody's handwringing about the Packers. You wouldn't know

1122
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: that they had outgained the Vikings but over a hundred

1123
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: yards last week. Yeah, for all of the doom and gloom, Well,

1124
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: how many yards of the Vikings have two forty two,

1125
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: which speaks to your point or Gregg's point about the

1126
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Packers defense playing pretty well. They completely shut down Teddy

1127
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: Bridgewater in that team. But I think give the I

1128
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: don't know, the Packers have at least played good teams.

1129
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: The Redskins, it's not I mean, it's a fair point

1130
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: that they haven't beaten a single good team all year.

1131
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: I do wonder why they're I think they're a good

1132
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: team from ahead, Like I do wonder what what's going

1133
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to happen if if the defense, the Packers defense does

1134
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: make a play earlier and the Packers can get a lead.

1135
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: And that's a team with a lot of experience in

1136
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs, has won a lot of playoff games in

1137
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: this tenure, Like, how are the Redskins gonna respond? Are

1138
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: they going to be a team that can come from

1139
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: behind when the pressure of the playoffs? Yeah? I think

1140
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: the Redskins though, I mean it's they're not beating, you know,

1141
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: great teams, but they're also hammering them on offense with

1142
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: like thirty forty points a game, and it's like it's

1143
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: been what about thirty two points a game over the

1144
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: last month, and they just seem like they're in a rhythm.

1145
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: I like any team going into the playoffs where their

1146
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: offense is singing the way that the Washington is right

1147
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: now you're at home. I think this is this is

1148
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: a big opportunity from the coach on down and I'm

1149
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: going Redskins. Alright, let's play one more game America's favorite.

1150
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: What's more likely Kirk Cousins as a mental meltdown with

1151
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: three turnovers or Mike McCarthy loses his job an ugly loss.

1152
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: This one's tough. There does seem to be some kind

1153
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: of rumbling coming out of Green Bay that there's a

1154
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: disconnect between McCarthy and Rogers, and that rogers head isn't

1155
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: all the way in the game because he kind of

1156
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: is tired of McCarthy. I don't know I'm gonna take

1157
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I just I feel like I do like that.

1158
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: I feel like Jordy Nelson not being there this year

1159
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: has unraveled everything. And the fact that than Aaron Rodgers

1160
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have that trust, and that nobody's open and everybody's

1161
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: dropping things when they do catch a ball. I don't

1162
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: think that they can totally blame that on McCarthy, So

1163
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Kirk cut I think both these

1164
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: scenarias are really far fetched. Uh you know the way

1165
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: Cousins has been playing, But I would go with Cousins.

1166
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, Mike McCarthy coached the top offense in the

1167
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: league last year and they really should have been in

1168
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And I just think that the history

1169
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: that he has with that team, it's tough for me

1170
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: to see these rumors coming true. Yeah, because I I don't.

1171
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: I'll go Cousins because I simply because if Mike McCarthy

1172
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: is fired, then the Packers have to go try to

1173
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: find a coach out there that they know is better

1174
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: than Mike McCarthy, where Mike McCarthy would become the number

1175
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: one coaching candidate out there for every one other, every

1176
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: other team. So it's a weird it's a weird time

1177
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: to do that, and McCarthy cannot be blamed for everything

1178
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: that's happening. I'm going Cousins. Although he's not throwing three picks.

1179
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: I'll go Cousins. I think Mark and I have said

1180
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: all year he's a quality quarterback. Doesn't mean we think

1181
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: he's a great quarterback. He's a quality quarterback. He also

1182
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: has shown tendencies in the past to melt down. All right,

1183
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I am taking the Redskins in this game. Kirk Cousins

1184
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: will throw one pick, so maybe just a mini meltdown

1185
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: score scored. I will take the Packers. I think it's

1186
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a defensive type of game seventeen, a lot

1187
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: of ronny, you know, kind of an ugly game. Man

1188
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Mark's gonna like this one. He likes the look. I

1189
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: like games like that. I thought we got that with

1190
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Houston Chiefs. That might be enough of that. But um,

1191
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: I'll go Redskins Packers. The one blowout of the weekend

1192
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: from Sessler. Not blow but you know, safe win. I was,

1193
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: like Whitely on the Redskin side on Monday. Now I'm

1194
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: slightly on the Packers side after watching some film. I

1195
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: just don't think the Packers are as terrible as everyone

1196
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: thinks they are right now. And you'll hear a lot

1197
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: of of analysts this week and during the games say

1198
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: that how good you are in December means everything, And honestly,

1199
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: every stat we have, every ounce of research says it

1200
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: doesn't that it doesn't matter where you're hotter, colde in

1201
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: December going into January, the teams that on a two

1202
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: game losing streak play just as well as the team's

1203
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: on a two game winning streak. I'm gonna pick the

1204
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: Packers to win, all right. So that is it for

1205
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: our previews. I'm glad that you guys all survived El Nino,

1206
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, and I'm glad one piece. It's true. It's

1207
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: been raining, just crazy here in l A. People just

1208
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: losing their minds. Yeah, nobody knows how to drive, nobody

1209
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: knows what to do. I just hope that Dan Hansas

1210
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: can survive the Dirk cot Or like power play going

1211
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: on here. By Colleen Wolf. My favorite thing about the rain,

1212
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: I just have to say, just get this out there.

1213
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: There's my favorite place down the street is this as

1214
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: E Bowl place. I went down there. I had a

1215
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: sign on the door that said, sorry, we've closed for

1216
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: our rainy day hours. We're closing it a rainy shocking.

1217
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: That place has raining day out shuts. That's that's what

1218
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: l l A. Can't have snow days, so they have

1219
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: rain days. Well, it is totally absurd. Half our audience

1220
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: listening to this must think we are just non to

1221
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: think this is weather speaking of our audience, Sydney, I

1222
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: think you would be doing a disservice to them if

1223
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: you didn't at least do one d hand smith hot

1224
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: butt drop today. Yeah, waity to just like throw it

1225
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: at her West, you know, I think she can handle it.

1226
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I think we should all take a moment to think

1227
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: about Dan while we wait for that drop. I'm sure

1228
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: he's Do you want to point out that it was

1229
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: almost like prophetic that I used that as my news.

1230
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: Someone pointed that out. Yeah, I don't even have to

1231
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: point so I'm kind of like peaked. I think I

1232
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: don't know if it gets better from here. It's to

1233
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: Dan's credit. The minute I saw the news, like, the

1234
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: first thing that popped in my mind was just that

1235
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: hot but stoking the fires. Alright, well guys, this has

1236
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: been real, so um that is it. Everybody enjoy the games.

1237
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: A big weekend full of games. That is that you

1238
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: guys will be back on Sunday, right right, Sunday night,

1239
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Speaker 1: all the action. What a day. I'm Colleen Wolf for

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Speaker 1: Quiet Story of the Mailman the Boss. Everybody here. Thanks,

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