Speaker 1: Come on, come on, this episode of the Heat Check.
Speaker 2: The second round of the playoffs is already here.
Speaker 3: We are ready, We already got drama.
Speaker 2: As Draymond gets tossed from Game one, his flavor in
Speaker 2: two is not getting reversed.
Speaker 3: The Grizzlies lose a heartbreaker to the Warriors.
Speaker 2: Box are still underdogs even though they slammed and humbled
Speaker 2: the Celtics. Sixers start the series without mb for god
Speaker 2: knows too long, and this might mean another early.
Speaker 3: Exit in Philly.
Speaker 2: Out in the West, the MAVs and the Suns get
Speaker 2: underway with a healthy Luca and.
Speaker 3: A healthy Devin Booker. So before we get into it,
Speaker 3: just drop that motherfucker beak Man the second round of
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I just love the playoffs so much. We
Speaker 3: are already loaded with drama.
Speaker 2: Let's start out with the East, with the favored Celtics
Speaker 2: taking on the Champs. Someone tell me, riddle me this.
Speaker 2: How are the defending champions underdogs in any situation in
Speaker 2: the East.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it houseway. I know Middleton is injured,
Speaker 2: I know it. I'm aware of this, But this is Yannice,
Speaker 2: Like Yannis is a different cat He's not Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: He's not you know, Kevin Durant, He's not even Lebron James.
Speaker 3: Like, this is a guy who.
Speaker 2: Is largely offensively, defensively unstoppable, and then a bunch of
Speaker 2: other guys who make his job easier.
Speaker 3: Please make it make sense.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the regular season record between the Celtics
Speaker 2: and the Milwaukee Bucks for a second, because I've been
Speaker 2: just wrapping my brain around how Vegas could make these
Speaker 2: odds the way that they are. Celtics two and two,
Speaker 2: So they split against the Bucks this year and thought
Speaker 2: maybe without with Chris, the Celtics would be favored. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing, though, the Celtics beat a Yannis list Bucks
Speaker 2: without Yannis in overtime in November in overtime and Dennis Shrewder,
Speaker 2: Who the fuck does Dennis shrud think he is? Dennis
Speaker 2: Shrewder had thirty eight in that game. They then beat
Speaker 2: the Bucks during the point in time where the Bucks
Speaker 2: didn't give a fuck about basketball, like December, that part
Speaker 2: where it's like not quite trade deadline season, all Star
Speaker 2: breaks a while away, and let's be honest, the Bucks
Speaker 2: already won this damn thing. They don't need to push
Speaker 2: to win every single game. The last two times that
Speaker 2: they played the Celtics, the Bucks beat them at home
Speaker 2: twice one seventeen, one thirteen, and at the end of
Speaker 2: the season beating him one twenty seven, one to twenty one.
Speaker 3: So to recap, the Celtics never beat the Bucks without
Speaker 3: Dennis Shooter.
Speaker 2: Not like a tremendous like piece of information, but there
Speaker 2: is no Dnis Shooter in this matchup.
Speaker 3: He's gone now, he's been traded.
Speaker 2: And they never beat them in Milwaukee, and they only
Speaker 2: beat him once with Yannis. And listen, when you have
Speaker 2: Dennis Shooter coming off the bench and he's giving you
Speaker 2: forty that's not insignificant. And and like, let's also be
Speaker 2: honest about what Milwaukee's doing.
Speaker 3: They don't. They've realized they.
Speaker 2: Don't need to win sixty games in order to win
Speaker 2: the championship. Like they no longer have to prove to
Speaker 2: the world the Milwaukee's on the map.
Speaker 3: Milwaukee's very firmly on the map.
Speaker 2: They decided we're gonna low manage, We're gonna coast, just
Speaker 2: doesn't matter one through six. We're fine, We don't we
Speaker 2: don't need to be the number one seed.
Speaker 3: We don't only need ESPN to.
Speaker 2: Put us ninety two point seven percent to make the finals.
Speaker 3: Like, it's fine, put us a three seed, put us
Speaker 3: a sixth seed.
Speaker 2: As long as we don't have to play in the
Speaker 2: play in tournament, we're good and and that's like pretty
Speaker 2: much a matchup problem for anyone. I tell you what,
Speaker 2: as a better as a gambler, I could not run
Speaker 2: fast enough to the window when I saw that Vegas
Speaker 2: gave me the Bucks at plus one seventy.
Speaker 3: Five for them to win the series. You're talking about
Speaker 3: almost two to.
Speaker 2: One money for the Bucks, the defending champions, to beat
Speaker 2: the Celtics, who have been good for like two seconds.
Speaker 3: Like what are we talking about here?
Speaker 2: The fact that the Nets got swept has now put
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's like a pill. Everyone is
Speaker 2: taken like, oh you beat the Nets. Oh now you're
Speaker 2: the Now you're the favorites, like they should have never been.
Speaker 2: The Nets should have never been the favorites, Like they're
Speaker 2: not good. I can't say this as stress this large enough.
Speaker 3: You're here, Brock. I've been screaming this from the mountaintops
Speaker 3: since October plus one seventy five. Yonis Anta Takupo. He's
Speaker 3: a thirty fifteen and five guy. How and he's hitting
Speaker 3: free throws out? What? Then? I? Okay? Then I double
Speaker 3: back and I was like, what, I get him plus
Speaker 3: four and a half? What did that? Then I double
Speaker 3: back again, live what they're up and I'm still getting
Speaker 3: him plus two and a half.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, okay, Well, now the they're like probably
Speaker 2: gonna score one hundred and eighty points when I can
Speaker 2: get under one hundred and ninety six total points. Like
Speaker 2: this is a defensive like matchup, give it and like,
Speaker 2: no matter how much we give props to Boston and
Speaker 2: their defense, like, do not sleep on the Bucks defense.
Speaker 2: They've got guys who will just like cut your legs out,
Speaker 2: Grayson Allen, Grayson Allen Marcus smart is the matchup you
Speaker 2: didn't know you needed. I The Bucks are stifling Brook Lopez,
Speaker 2: one of the best room protectors in the league. Nobody
Speaker 2: speaks about him, Nobody even utters his name. They're just like, oh, no, no,
Speaker 2: miss christ Christopher Middleton, what no Chris with a K?
Speaker 3: Obviously that in the Bucks, Well what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: And then okay, then the Bucks of course do exactly
Speaker 2: what I thought, which is like they should win this game.
Speaker 3: Let alone like four be four and a half point dogs.
Speaker 2: Headline, Boston hit in the mouth, out muscled by Milwaukee
Speaker 2: Bucks in physical game one. Tell me how that changes? How,
Speaker 2: Like is Chris Middleton a part of the out muscling.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Like no nobody's ever said like Chris Middleton bully ball,
Speaker 2: like never moving forward with or without Middleton, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure anyone out muscles Milwaukee in the NBA like period.
Speaker 3: Even Phoenix couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: That's why they had to figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get other centers involved, because one center is not enough.
Speaker 2: You'll just get into foul trouble. And like then you've
Speaker 2: got DeAndre Ayton sitting his ass on the bench because
Speaker 2: he's got four fouls in the first quarter. Now you
Speaker 2: gotta roll out Frank Kaminski, Like let me just if
Speaker 2: you don't know Frank Kaminski just the way that I
Speaker 2: say his name. He's been cut. He's been cut already.
Speaker 2: They've got JaVale McGee. Now, they've got Bismack Meambo. Now
Speaker 2: they've got plethora of depth in case really just for
Speaker 2: this scenario, really, just because Joannis and Brook are a problem,
Speaker 2: and for Game two, Milwaukee is yet again, somehow inexplicably,
Speaker 2: the line has not moved.
Speaker 3: A must like like anything. It's four and a half again,
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 2: If you're above a and you've got sports betting legal
Speaker 2: to you like, take that, don't. I don't care that
Speaker 2: they're gonna make adjustments, All of them will. And if
Speaker 2: somebody needs to explain to me how in game two
Speaker 2: is going to go different than Game one, everybody's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: the Celtics they just shot so bad. They were just
Speaker 2: so bad, Like, they can't possibly shoot as bad as
Speaker 2: they did. They were just chucking from everywhere. They shot
Speaker 2: fifty times from three, They shot fifty times from the
Speaker 2: three point line. They can't possibly be that bad. They
Speaker 2: shot eighteen for fifty. By the way, percentage wise, that's
Speaker 2: actually better than they've shot all year long. Their season
Speaker 2: long three point percentage is thirty five point six percent
Speaker 2: from deep. So tell me exactly how this changes. They
Speaker 2: shot ten for thirty four in the paint. How do
Speaker 2: you fix that? Got two guys, Yannis and Brooke. Where
Speaker 2: how are you gonna spread them out? You put them
Speaker 2: on the perimeter, somehow stretch them out. You got what
Speaker 2: you got? Fucking time? Lord on, like on the three
Speaker 2: point line, get out of here? Who is who is
Speaker 2: going into the paint? How are you gonna stop that?
Speaker 2: Here's what Jalen Brown said after the game. We've gotta
Speaker 2: be smarter.
Speaker 3: In game one.
Speaker 2: We weren't. So we look at it, we learn from it,
Speaker 2: we come better back for the next game. We shot
Speaker 2: a lot of threes tonight, a lot of them great looks.
Speaker 2: We understand that's what they want us to do, so
Speaker 2: we're gonna figure it out. Why do you think they
Speaker 2: want you to do that because you're not good at it? Like,
Speaker 2: so smarter is not gonna get you taller. Like, you
Speaker 2: can be as smart as you want. But they're seven
Speaker 2: feet tall and Giannis is like two seventy five.
Speaker 3: So listen, you made the exact number of threes. Your
Speaker 3: record suggests that you're gonna make moving forward, You're gonna
Speaker 3: shoot sixty of them.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The bottom line is this, the Celtics were crowned way
Speaker 3: too early. And I like the Celtics. If they weren't.
Speaker 2: Facing the Bucks, maybe they'd face the Bucks in the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals and then they would go to sleep
Speaker 2: to the Bucks then instead of now, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I don't know why we get into these trends
Speaker 2: of like, well, you beat the king, you took the
Speaker 2: king down, and now you've got the crown like first
Speaker 2: and foremost, like the Emperor had no clothes, like, so
Speaker 2: you guys just kept thinking like maybe if we keep
Speaker 2: saying that they have clothes on, that the Nets are
Speaker 2: gonna be like a real team. They're just never have been,
Speaker 2: never will be. They had no depth and just because
Speaker 2: the Celtics beating didn't mean that they ended up getting
Speaker 2: any more respect than what they are. They're they're a
Speaker 2: matchup disadvantage with or without Chris Middleton. Let me ask
Speaker 2: you this, what happens if Chris Middleton was in the series,
Speaker 2: then it's like, I mean, it was a dominating performance.
Speaker 2: They were up largely the whole game by double digits
Speaker 2: with their number two score out. M Yeah, you have
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart banged up. He's not gonna not be banged
Speaker 2: up because he's dealing with Drew Holliday and Grayson Allen
Speaker 2: and Bobby Portis and his goggles. Like that's what this
Speaker 2: is gonna be. So I know, and you've got Jaylen
Speaker 2: Brown with a lingering hammy as well. I don't know
Speaker 2: what you want me to say, but if you're a
Speaker 2: better just go ahead and keep hammering the Bucks and
Speaker 2: take that shit to the bank, because the Bucks look
Speaker 2: like right now they're going back to the finals and
Speaker 2: it's probably going to seven with the Suns and then like, honestly,
Speaker 2: quite honestly, my heart will be broken, but it feels
Speaker 2: like the Bucks are going to win it again. Jianness
Speaker 2: is the best player on the planet. He is unguardable,
Speaker 2: and thus the Bucks I can I cannot imagine them
Speaker 2: being stopped. Uh, let's move forward with another amazing series
Speaker 2: that has begun.
Speaker 3: Lord Warriors versus Grizzlies what I would.
Speaker 2: Call the Spider Man pointing at Spider Man two superstar
Speaker 2: guards like physicality all over, guys who are just gritty
Speaker 2: with You got Dylan Brooks, you got Desmond Bane, you
Speaker 2: got Draymond Green, and Draymond Green's Steven Adams is in
Speaker 2: health and safety protocols. I can't wait for him to return.
Speaker 2: Series is one hundred percent going seven games. How do
Speaker 2: I know that Game one told me everything that I
Speaker 2: need to see to predict that these teams really aren't
Speaker 2: separated by much. Either team goes up thirteen does not matter.
Speaker 2: They can score in an instant, they can get very
Speaker 2: shaky in an instant on both sides of the teams
Speaker 2: two very evenly matched competitors. Game one was pretty much
Speaker 2: exactly like we predicted, very gritty, incredibly tight, dozens of
Speaker 2: lead changes, big time game winning shots, big time go
Speaker 2: ahead shots, bodies hitting the floor, ejections, game winning shot
Speaker 2: followed by a potential game winning miss like Draymond Green
Speaker 2: hitting someone like ays per usual. And so let's talk
Speaker 2: about this Draymond ejection for a second, because me and
Speaker 2: Draymond have had our own little thing back and forth drawing.
Speaker 3: But this is what happened.
Speaker 2: It happened when he got into a battle with Brandon Clark,
Speaker 2: small five killing who fell to the ground with Draymond
Speaker 2: holding onto his jersey like it was the safety bar
Speaker 2: at her on a roller coaster, just hanging on tight,
Speaker 2: just trying to stay in that little chair of death.
Speaker 3: And so then they called the flagrant two. You're ejected.
Speaker 3: He's out of the game.
Speaker 2: Right before the second quarter, Draymond decided he was going
Speaker 2: to address it. I want to play that for our folks.
Speaker 4: I am dumb enough to think that it would not
Speaker 4: even be a flag or one. That you know, the
Speaker 4: playoffs are a little tougher and not as soft as
Speaker 4: the regular season, you know, and that you know you
Speaker 4: can you can bump a little more and you get
Speaker 4: away with a little more, you know. Like I think
Speaker 4: tonight was probably a reputation, a reputation thing more so
Speaker 4: than a hard file. By definition, if we go through
Speaker 4: the definition of a flagrant two file, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: that that play would quite be the definition of a
Speaker 4: flagrant file. I'm not sure it would meet that criteria.
Speaker 2: First and foremost, you dragged them onto the ground. It
Speaker 2: was like considered a body slam. So yeah, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a flagrant one, probably not a flagrant two.
Speaker 3: Here's the issue.
Speaker 2: The league is now not going to reverse it. Now
Speaker 2: Draymond Green has two flagrant points, which four makes it
Speaker 2: a one game suspension, So one more of these little
Speaker 2: antics you're out for an entire game. And if it
Speaker 2: was reduced, then Draymond only gets one flagrant point, which
Speaker 2: would give him more wiggle room in case he does
Speaker 2: that shit again, and then he has another flagrant point
Speaker 2: to wiggle with The Grizzlies' response to the ejection pretty
Speaker 2: much a big like who gares Brandon Clark says, yeah,
Speaker 2: He's been known for this in his career, like flagrant
Speaker 2: fowls is his thing. I've watched them on TV my
Speaker 2: entire life. Not shocking that he would do that. But
Speaker 2: the thing that I think a lot of fans may
Speaker 2: be missing is that the Draymond Green ejection might have.
Speaker 3: Actually helped the Warriors.
Speaker 2: The Warriors at one point in time, were down twelve
Speaker 2: points while Draymond Green was in the game. Draymond Green
Speaker 2: is a matchup issue because of Jaron Jackson, because of
Speaker 2: Brandon Clark. Draymond Green's a tremendous competitor at one of
Speaker 2: the best defenders in the game. But losing him was
Speaker 2: like a splash cold water and a little bit of gasoline.
Speaker 2: They were like fucking zombies out there. Grizzlies were out
Speaker 2: to an early lead, they were in transition. Warriors, look shook,
Speaker 2: memphisis rocking. Steph's missing shots, Everyone's missing shots. Clay then said,
Speaker 2: as soon as Draymon went out, we ended up having
Speaker 2: extra motivation and the team played the rest of the
Speaker 2: game hopping mad like that's a level of intensity.
Speaker 3: That you don't get when Draymond's still there.
Speaker 2: Like, by the way, Grizzlies were up one point one
Speaker 2: point one minute, twelve seconds left in the in the
Speaker 2: first half when Draymond got ejected, Like I said, they
Speaker 2: were up by as much as twelve with Draymon in
Speaker 2: the game. But the most important thing about this game,
Speaker 2: where I'm thinking this could go seven, and I'm also
Speaker 2: concerned about the Grizzlies poise, we need to talk about
Speaker 2: that last thirty six seconds for a second. Let me
Speaker 2: set it up for you. Down one point, Grizzlies ball.
Speaker 2: Ja Morant has it thirty six seconds to go. Grizzlies
Speaker 2: have a two for one opportunity because of the shot clock, right,
Speaker 2: you gotta get a quick bucket. They have a full
Speaker 2: twenty four and you still have time left to get
Speaker 2: a bucket in case either they don't hit one or
Speaker 2: they do, you can't have them have the ball. Then
Speaker 2: you gotta play the foul game, et cetera. Jaw that's
Speaker 2: the standard.
Speaker 3: Two for one, that's the standard.
Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do. Jah, who I love,
Speaker 2: By the way, so no shade to jaw. Took a
Speaker 2: full twenty seconds just to get a layup. That fucking
Speaker 2: got blocked by Steph Curry, who's known as a piss
Speaker 2: poor defender in the league.
Speaker 3: Where he's saying I shut him down.
Speaker 2: He's literally shit talking jaw like, yeah, I stopped that
Speaker 2: shit he blocked.
Speaker 3: You took you twenty seconds to get blocked. Then you
Speaker 3: then wait to foul.
Speaker 2: You take a full seven seconds to then foul because
Speaker 2: you've literally wasted all the time.
Speaker 3: Now they can just run out the clock. They're up.
Speaker 2: You take eleven seconds to do seven seconds to do that.
Speaker 2: That brings the clock down to eleven seconds left in
Speaker 2: the game. But you had a foul to give, which
Speaker 2: you must have not known or you would have foiled immediately.
Speaker 2: Then you take another full five seconds to foul to
Speaker 2: send Klay Thompson to the free throw line ninety percent
Speaker 2: free throw shooter, dumb shit. Thankfully, Klay Thompson misses them both.
Speaker 2: You get a jump ball because you tip the ball
Speaker 2: out of bounds on his free throw misses.
Speaker 3: You probably shouldn't even gotten the ball at that point.
Speaker 2: Then as soon as you get the jump ball, there's
Speaker 2: four point two seconds left in the game, you call
Speaker 2: timeout somehow the refs give you three point six seconds.
Speaker 2: You don't challenge that can test that inexplicable. They're even
Speaker 2: talking about it on the broadcast. Now you got three
Speaker 2: point six seconds left and you're down one, Okay, then
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 3: All of a sudden we draw up a play.
Speaker 2: For Jah Morant coming from behind half court being fully
Speaker 2: guarded with the full head of steam. Which is the
Speaker 2: whole point is that we want to get jaw like
Speaker 2: a pseudo in transition. You only have three point six
Speaker 2: seconds left, folks, the shock quality is going to be
Speaker 2: not so good. You're basically hoping that he gets fouled.
Speaker 2: By the way, Jahn Morant not so good of a
Speaker 2: clutch freeto shooter either.
Speaker 3: What is this mess?
Speaker 2: Like? Maybe one of the biggest thirty six second messes
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: They still had the ability to win that game.
Speaker 2: There's just this is where they thrive normally, Memphis tough situation.
Speaker 2: Memphis has now lost their home court advantage. You know,
Speaker 2: Golden State thinks that they have a leg up because
Speaker 2: they did it without Draymon. Confidence levels are high. Just
Speaker 2: no predicting where this goes would not shock me though,
Speaker 2: if Steven Adams and Draymond Green get into it. Steven
Speaker 2: Adams by the way, for folks, you don't member got
Speaker 2: into it with Draymond when he was in Okac and
Speaker 2: they had those intense battles with Katie Ross and Steven Adams.
Speaker 2: He kicked Steven Adams in the in the Adams apples
Speaker 2: like multiple times in the little like twigs and berries.
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be firework prediction time because I
Speaker 2: they say I'm a Golden State hater.
Speaker 3: Grizzlies in seven figure it out. Grizzly's fucking me out
Speaker 3: for the.
Speaker 2: Least two games in their second round series against Miami Heat.
Speaker 2: This is massive thirty points per game, twelve rebounds per game,
Speaker 2: up to Tennis's per game. This is a team that
Speaker 2: would struggle to make the play in tournament without Joel
Speaker 2: Embiid in the East. Now they face Miami Heat, team
Speaker 2: that is extremely physical. By the way, as soon as
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid comes back, that thumb issue isn't going away.
Speaker 2: They have multiple guys that can score on the perimeter,
Speaker 2: defend on the perimeter. There are a lot of role
Speaker 2: players that are gonna come in give you good minutes,
Speaker 2: even without Kyle Lowry who's not playing in game one,
Speaker 2: even if Jimmy Butler missus time, which he will play
Speaker 2: in game one. Like you've got Victor Oladipo, You've got
Speaker 2: Gaye Vincent, You've got Caleb Martin, you've got Max Struz.
Speaker 2: You got a bunch of guys that the casual fans
Speaker 2: never even heard of.
Speaker 3: They might get you. Twenty five. Didn't even mention Duncan Robinson,
Speaker 3: didn't mention Tyler Herro. This is a nightmare. The WOJ
Speaker 3: bomb is that there's Oh, this is the bomb. This
Speaker 3: is the sound of the WOJ bomb.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: There is optimism that the Sixers get Joelle back as
Speaker 2: early as game three or game four, excuse me, pause,
Speaker 2: as early as Like that doesn't inspire me.
Speaker 3: That doesn't give me optimism. You could be already down
Speaker 3: three zero by then.
Speaker 2: If you don't think Doc Rivers is a good coach
Speaker 2: when he's up three to zero, how do you think.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be down three to zero?
Speaker 2: So much scoring now has to fall on a guy
Speaker 2: who hasn't been elite in two and a half three years,
Speaker 2: hasn't been elite before the word like the last time
Speaker 2: James Harden was elite. Was before we knew what social
Speaker 2: distancing was like, we didn't even know the word COVID.
Speaker 3: That's the last time Harden was hardened.
Speaker 2: Now he's ecstatic that he lost left Houston because he
Speaker 2: had to shoulder the burden. He went to the nets
Speaker 2: where he's like, well, I got Kyrie and KD. Awesome,
Speaker 2: I don't have to shoulder. Wait then KD goes down,
Speaker 2: Kyrie does Kyrie things that he bolts. He's like, I
Speaker 2: now get Joel Embiid. I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: number one scoring option. And now when the lights are bright,
Speaker 2: James Harden playoff. Harden comes to play.
Speaker 3: With all of the scoring burden on his shoulders once again,
Speaker 3: with less explosiveness, less athleticism, and twenty more pounds you
Speaker 3: fucking think's gonna happen? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Doesn't take a scientist or a mathematician like, I don't
Speaker 2: even know why I'm giving this take it so obvious.
Speaker 2: Poor James Harden, like poor Ja. Everywhere he goes, the
Speaker 2: world crumbles around him and it's like largely still on
Speaker 2: him somehow, I don't know. And like Tyrese Maxey, he's
Speaker 2: such a volatile player. Love little Tyrese, like his braids
Speaker 2: are shaken all over the place because he's so erratic.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 2: But if you're thinking that he's gonna be the guy
Speaker 2: in high pressure moments at twenty whatever, he is, he's young,
Speaker 2: he's in experience, he's chucking. We're now relying on Tobias
Speaker 2: and Danny Green.
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: If we see the James Harden we saw in Game
Speaker 2: six in the first round against Toronto, maybe they compete,
Speaker 2: maybe they can even steal a game. James Harden in
Speaker 2: that game twenty two points, seven of twelve, six rebounds,
Speaker 2: fifteen assists. He's gonna need at least that stat line.
Speaker 2: I think probably thirty five points, eight rebounds, eighteen.
Speaker 3: Assists needs to be the stat line. But if he
Speaker 3: is noted, this series might be over in four.
Speaker 2: Prediction time, I think Joelle Embiid comes back, gets one
Speaker 2: Miami in five. Let's talk Suns Mavericks another series I
Speaker 2: think could go to the distance. I think it's another
Speaker 2: one of those situations where the underdog is getting significantly undervalued.
Speaker 2: Mavericks five and a half point underdogs like the Pelicans,
Speaker 2: weren't five and a half point underdogs, and there's a
Speaker 2: team that went one to twelve to start the season.
Speaker 3: Like you've got Luka Doncic, Like, what are we talking
Speaker 3: about here?
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson gives you twenty, Luca gives you thirty, Spence
Speaker 2: can give you twenty. Dwight Powell can give you fifteen.
Speaker 2: Maxi Klaba gives you fifteen, seventeen, Reggie Bullock gives you fifteen.
Speaker 2: I mean what this is like a very good defense
Speaker 2: that can switch things and be long and athletic and
Speaker 2: do all the things that the Phoenix can do.
Speaker 3: They just don't have Chris Paul.
Speaker 2: Like Jalen Brunson is basically their version of Chris Paul.
Speaker 2: Luca is their version of Devin Booker. Probably Spencer or
Speaker 2: Reggie Bullock is their version of Michale Bridges. Dwight Powell
Speaker 2: certainly know DeAndre Ayton, but okay, I guess that's the
Speaker 2: matchup issue, right, But he's still a very good defender
Speaker 2: and can rebound his ass off, so it's gonna be tight.
Speaker 2: I love the idea of Chris Paul and Luca on
Speaker 2: the floor. At the same time, I love the idea
Speaker 2: of like Chris Paul versus Jalen Book versus Luca, who's
Speaker 2: gonna score more, Who's gonna turn the ball over less?
Speaker 3: By the way, New York's awesome.
Speaker 2: You can same game parlay props and like you literally
Speaker 2: take like Chris Paul under two and a half turnovers
Speaker 2: and Jalen Brunson over probably one and a half turnovers,
Speaker 2: that plus money.
Speaker 3: Just love that stuff. MAVs just keep getting better all month,
Speaker 3: even without Luca. They were really good.
Speaker 2: With Luca, they basically dismantled the entire jazz organization. Like
Speaker 2: the jazz I'm not even gonna discuss this because we
Speaker 2: have too much to get to, but like the Jazz
Speaker 2: are in complete disarray right now. Like we've got a
Speaker 2: situation where Rudy Gobert is telling the jazz organization it's
Speaker 2: either Donovan Mitchell or me, and that is all because
Speaker 2: of the MAVs and a beasting to his eye. So
Speaker 2: do not sleep on the Mavericks. This thing could go seven.
Speaker 2: And also little shade Alert, Jason Kidd was talking shit
Speaker 2: about the Jazz by complimenting the Sun Centers. You know
Speaker 2: how that whole thing goes. It's like a backhanded compliment
Speaker 2: sort of. He goes, Yeah, the difference between the Suns
Speaker 2: and the Jazz are last opponent. Yeah, the Sun can
Speaker 2: hurt you in the paint, Javail and Atan, this is
Speaker 2: not Rudy Gobert and Hassan Whiteside. Like, these guys actually
Speaker 2: can put the ball into the basket. Our bigs are
Speaker 2: going to be tested. Wow, Like what that's a real
Speaker 2: quote that.
Speaker 3: I just wrote.
Speaker 2: Read So we're gonna know a lot more about this
Speaker 2: series after the first game is in the books.
Speaker 4: Tonight move if you got the nerdlash out for your
Speaker 4: justice service, it's not chestim last segment.
Speaker 2: It is our second to last winning time recap. As
Speaker 2: always turn off the pot if you don't like spoilers.
Speaker 2: This is why it's at the end. You can catch
Speaker 2: us on the flippity flip if you haven't watched it.
Speaker 3: So it's all good.
Speaker 2: First and foremost, there are now three main plot lines. One,
Speaker 2: Jerry Buss his mom dies in the middle.
Speaker 3: Of the playoff series tough.
Speaker 2: Second, like a really really sad shows their relationship. How
Speaker 2: that changes his relationship with his daughter Jeanie Buss. The
Speaker 2: fact that she's conflicted because she wants to take care
Speaker 2: of her grandmother. How her grandmother actually wants Geenie to
Speaker 2: be independent because she's always relied on and cared for men,
Speaker 2: Which is very interesting to me because Jeanie's never married.
Speaker 2: She's been with Philo Jackson on and off for a
Speaker 2: really long time, but she never really paired up and
Speaker 2: lived for a man. She's her entire life has been
Speaker 2: sort of kind of being like Jerry Buss, being single,
Speaker 2: being a bachelorette who's largely a business woman, which I
Speaker 2: find that to be fascinating. Also, the return of Jack
Speaker 2: McKinney and him trying to get back as being the
Speaker 2: head coach of the Lakers after you know, stunning Lee
Speaker 2: almost losing his brain on the cement and him having
Speaker 2: memory issues while still being clearly a smarter coach, but
Speaker 2: just not the coach with all of his faculties that
Speaker 2: makes sense. And then another involving Spencer Haywood, who is
Speaker 2: probably the most.
Speaker 3: Interesting player in NBA history.
Speaker 2: The last time we talked about Coach McKinney, his running
Speaker 2: gun offense revolutionized the NBA, and now he's like, I
Speaker 2: can't express to you how important he is to Showtime.
Speaker 2: Showtime doesn't exist without Jack McKinney, and he's finally cleared
Speaker 2: to have his role again, which then now causes serious
Speaker 2: problems for Paul Westead, his assistant who's the interim head coach,
Speaker 2: and west Head's assistant pat Riley, who McKinney wants no
Speaker 2: part of being on the bench. Pat Riley shouldn't be
Speaker 2: there recording the McKinney's got a fucking go and if
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have said that, maybe they wouldn't have had
Speaker 2: these problems. McKinny thinks Paul west had stabbed him in
Speaker 2: the back and is trying to take his job and
Speaker 2: wants him gone.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that his brain is not right.
Speaker 2: He hasn't recovered fully from the bike accident just a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, and he's got getting lost. He's
Speaker 2: forgetting people's names. There's a scene where Jerry Buss shows
Speaker 2: up at his doorstep. He doesn't even know it's Jerry Buss,
Speaker 2: and Bus is loyal, he wants to give him his
Speaker 2: job back, but when McKinney shows up with champagne at
Speaker 2: his doorstep, he's like special delivery for Jerry for Jack McKinney, and.
Speaker 3: Jack's like hold on one second.
Speaker 2: Uh, wife, Uh, there's a delivery at the door.
Speaker 3: Can you come hold on one second?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my wife. Can he help you with that?
Speaker 2: He's like, yo, let me just back a pivot, sir,
Speaker 2: red alert, Pivot time, pivot and it's west Head and
Speaker 2: Riley's title now to either win or lose. B story
Speaker 2: then revolves around Jerry's Bus's mom, brilliantly playing by Sally Field,
Speaker 2: dying from cancer, so sad to watch. By all accounts,
Speaker 2: Jerry Buss and his mom incredibly closed.
Speaker 3: The story of Jerry.
Speaker 2: Buss and his mom being like being an abject pop
Speaker 2: hustling their way to the top.
Speaker 3: Like, but what is lost is.
Speaker 2: Just like I said, how much Geniebus learned from her grandmother,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to being a woman in a
Speaker 2: male dominated business. And let's talk about Spencer fucking Haywood.
Speaker 2: You may not have heard of him, but he was
Speaker 2: voted into the Hall of Fame in twenty fifteen. He
Speaker 2: was a problem six' eight hard rock, sets tough screens From,
Speaker 2: mississippi who was all grit on the boards and in the.
Speaker 2: Paint problem was he did crack like pretty. Much we're
Speaker 2: talking about a guy who sued THE nba in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy and, one allowing underclassmen for the first time to
Speaker 2: enter the. Draft, yes you would have No Lebron james
Speaker 2: Without Spencer, haywood No Kevin garnett Without Spencer.
Speaker 3: Haywood he was also married.
Speaker 2: To, emon the iconic fashion. Model how he pulled her
Speaker 2: unknown unknown to, me he turned Down nike for a
Speaker 2: shoe mill that would have been.
Speaker 3: Over worth over a billion dollars turn him.
Speaker 2: Down he even performed an adult circumcision on himself with
Speaker 2: a razor and a.
Speaker 3: Rock these are all. True these are all true. Things
Speaker 3: what let me just say it. Again Spencer haywood doing,
Speaker 3: crack married to.
Speaker 2: Supermodel apparently she signed on for him to take a
Speaker 2: razor and a rock to his own fucking penis and shave.
Speaker 3: OFF i swear To, god that's not even relevant to the.
Speaker 2: Story by nineteen seventy, nine he was a valuable player
Speaker 2: off the bench for The, lakers but he was doing.
Speaker 2: Coke he was doing, crack and he had been addicted
Speaker 2: to crack cocaine for. Years and this leads to the
Speaker 2: greatest drama in the series Of day because even more
Speaker 2: than the head, coach nearly, dying then coming, back then
Speaker 2: being so out of his mind That Jerry buss has
Speaker 2: to give the team to his, assistance one of which
Speaker 2: has no coaching. Experienced all he has is being next
Speaker 2: To chick hern as an. Announcer The lakers now are
Speaker 2: in the finals with The, sixers and guess. What Spencer
Speaker 2: haywood gets back to the pipe so bad he shows
Speaker 2: up to practice the next day looking Like Dave chappelle
Speaker 2: in the Fucking Skit.
Speaker 3: Paul. West heead literally has.
Speaker 2: To kick him off the team during THE Nba. Finals
Speaker 2: kareem Abdulj, bar his really good friend for like fellow,
Speaker 2: activist is the deciding. Vote has to deliver the news
Speaker 2: To Spencer haywood the same week that The lakers fire
Speaker 2: their head coach because he's cuckoo in the.
Speaker 3: Brain right, now.
Speaker 2: That's not even the best. Part the best, part which
Speaker 2: actually happens to be. True we know that as, well
Speaker 2: Because spencer writes about it also in his, autobiography is
Speaker 2: when he gets kicked off the, team what does he?
Speaker 2: Do does he take it on the, chin decide to
Speaker 2: go to, rehab look, inward decide yes it is true?
Speaker 2: Me Spencer, HEYWOOD i have a. Problem, No he decides
Speaker 2: to take out a hit and kill the head coach
Speaker 2: of The. Lakers he hires someone to come TO la
Speaker 2: to try to cut the brakes On Paul.
Speaker 3: Westead let me recap this off for.
Speaker 2: You Spencer haywood gets kicked off The lakers for smoking
Speaker 2: crack during THE Nba.
Speaker 3: Finals then was so mad takes out a murder hit
Speaker 3: on his former edd.
Speaker 2: Coach he hires a mafia hit man to murder his head.
Speaker 2: Coach and there's already been a mafia hit.
Speaker 3: In the fucking.
Speaker 4: Season this.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 2: UNREAL i had to buy a, copy literally, so just
Speaker 2: SO i could find a section where he talks about.
Speaker 3: It this is what he.
Speaker 2: WROTE i left the forum AND i drove off in
Speaker 2: my roles that night thinking one, thing not, DAMN i fucked.
Speaker 3: Up it was West head's gotta.
Speaker 2: DIE i drove through the streets plotting the man's. Murder
Speaker 2: in the heat of anger and in the days of,
Speaker 2: COKE i phoned an old friend of mine In, detroit
Speaker 2: guy Named, gregory certified. GANGSTER i, said come out, here,
Speaker 2: BUDDY i got SOMEONE i want you.
Speaker 3: To take care.
Speaker 2: Of he, said no, problem would love to do that for.
Speaker 2: You the next, Day greg and his partner flew out
Speaker 2: To la ready to go to. Work we sat down
Speaker 2: and we figured it. Out West head lives In Palos,
Speaker 2: verdes and we got his street. Address we would sabotage
Speaker 2: this car and mess.
Speaker 3: With his, brake lining are you kidding? Me and we are.
Speaker 2: Trying we have people Like Jerry west letting a little
Speaker 2: entertainment get in the way of the. Truth and the
Speaker 2: best series on television right, Now Winning time, folks wraps
Speaker 2: up Next, sunday and god, damn how could he get any?
Speaker 2: BETTER i am looking forward to.
Speaker 3: It that's all the, time.
Speaker 2: Folks, Wow, like let's just really, fast really fast before the,
Speaker 2: clothes just let that sink. In like what, like first of,
Speaker 2: all you got your point guards having orgies later CONTRACTING.
Speaker 2: Hiv your head coach isn't even your head. Coach he's
Speaker 2: got had a. Stroke you're firing. Him you fire them
Speaker 2: later later in the, finals you fire him midway. Through
Speaker 2: you got a guy on crack cocaine getting kicked off the.
Speaker 2: Team here's your main role, player big man Helping Kareem,
Speaker 2: abdorsby like and then he decides he's gonna kill the head,
Speaker 2: coach who's not even the real head, coach he's the
Speaker 2: Interim why don't we know about this? Already, like why
Speaker 2: hasn't there already been a? Film, anyway that's all the
Speaker 2: time that we have for the Heat. Check we'll be
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