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Speaker 1: Alright, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in the

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Speaker 2: What Up Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Why is the NFL the most popular league? I think

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Speaker 3: most of us know it's because it's the easiest to

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Speaker 3: bet on. Doesn't mean it's easiest to win betting on,

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Speaker 3: but it's the easiest to bet on. That you know

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Speaker 3: when it is. You know, fantasy football is essentially gambling

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Speaker 3: and whatever. But I also think that the NFL has

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Speaker 3: tapped into something and I'm not even sure they know

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Speaker 3: how they're doing it, but they've been doing it, which

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Speaker 3: is the league has a lot of parody and on

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Speaker 3: any given Sunday or any given Thursday, you can get

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Speaker 3: a win. I don't know what becomes of the Eagles

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Speaker 3: not trending in the right direction, but these are two

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Speaker 3: games in four days in which they look bad, and

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Speaker 3: we'll see what happens moving forward. Is they have the

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Speaker 3: weekend off and plenty of talent to reset themselves. But

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Speaker 3: you have to be honest and say, in the results

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Speaker 3: that we saw last night, what is your reaction to

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Speaker 3: the Giants thumping the Eagles and not just being able

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Speaker 3: to beat the Eagles, but maintain possession of the ball,

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Speaker 3: run the ball down and felt like the Eagles quit

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Speaker 3: late and the Giants got more energy late to close

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Speaker 3: the deal. This is a franchise that hadn't won a

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Speaker 2: But there's something to the parody of this league. I

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Speaker 2: think part of it is the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I don't think has any question, because if you go

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Speaker 3: all in on a couple of players, there's going to

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Speaker 3: be some holes. And even though the Eagles have a

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Speaker 3: to take younger players, and some of those younger guys

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Speaker 3: now think they should get paid. Some of that's affecting

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Speaker 3: their performance, or some of it is selfishness, or you

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Speaker 3: got to decide what you're doing with the quarterback. If

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Speaker 3: you're going to give Jalen Hurts all that money, he's

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Speaker 3: got to perform like a quarterback worth all that money

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Speaker 3: been worth all that money.

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Speaker 2: Whereas the Giants.

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Speaker 3: When you're not spending a bunch of money on quarterback

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Speaker 3: you can build out a better roster. And the roster

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Speaker 3: has clearly gotten better, even with some major injuries. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's the Thursday night game, which is a quick turnaround,

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Speaker 3: and the Giants game plan can be very simple, and

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Speaker 3: didn't have time to fix them. But whatever they're doing,

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Speaker 3: that result is a surprise. And when you look around

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Speaker 3: the league, there have been several of those surprise results.

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Speaker 3: Patriots going in and beating the Bills in Buffalo, and

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Speaker 3: when you feel like every team has a chance, it

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Speaker 3: is going to make you pay attention, especially to those

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Speaker 3: standalone of the big games. More often than not, happened

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Speaker 3: first game in the season with the Chargers being the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: lots of reasons we watched the NFL above other sports,

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Speaker 3: but maybe one of the understated ones is that old

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Speaker 3: adage that on any given Sunday, it really, really deems true.

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Speaker 1: And now.

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Speaker 4: What does the Fox say.

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Speaker 2: Every day at this time?

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: Phillies game and how it ended last night.

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Speaker 5: The Dodgers made it interesting. Great pitching last night that

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Speaker 5: was fun, fun to watch. And here is the final

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Speaker 5: call of the Dodgers, moving on to the NLCS. Heart

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Speaker 5: rates through the room, the old one pitch PAHs grounds

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Speaker 1: He can't find it.

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Speaker 4: He does home pits what Tim stores and the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: In center field.

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Speaker 1: The Dodger's still.

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Speaker 5: That's courtesy of a five seventy only Sports Dodgers radio network.

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Speaker 5: and it's a walk off air, and that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I think he was going to first base and then yeah,

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Speaker 6: Once you get that right, Giant fans, such like when

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Speaker 4: That's the Philly theme song today. Dang ge ego.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you something, Philly. Oh tell me, let

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell y'all about Philly fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, NASA.

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Speaker 8: Did you know they got rated as the dumbest fan

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Speaker 3: I just I don't want to get into Eagles fans.

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Speaker 3: They're smart, they're dumb, Like that's that's not really a

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Speaker 6: Say.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your.

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Speaker 7: Annoying now, Doug. Frequent listeners to this show and the

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Speaker 7: live show know my opinion of Tom Brady, and I

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Speaker 7: know what, Jay Stu was out in front of something

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Speaker 7: and he's just like, he's seeking out things that confirm

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Speaker 7: In fact, I'm taking two of the most influential voices

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Speaker 7: about him, but you can't say that he's not influential.

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Speaker 7: He's got a bunch of followers, and Dan Lebotard, they

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Speaker 7: all weighed in on the same subject this week. The

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Speaker 7: don't care. I do like to confirm my instincts, especially

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Speaker 9: The more I listen to Tom Brady, the worse it gets.

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Speaker 9: He is all time Captain obvious. He is Vanilla extract.

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Speaker 9: It's he tells me nothing I can't see with my

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Speaker 2: Of all time. I don't know if he's distracting.

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Speaker 7: him credit for this. He faced the music afterwards. This

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Speaker 13: Ship off my foot. I mean just kind of once

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Speaker 14: So just throw Yeah, did you? Did you You're done

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Speaker 14: calling telling you to go to first at all? Or

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Speaker 14: were you just in the moment that you wasn't even

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Can you can you see j An your pointing

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Speaker 13: Up, just kind of looking up?

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Speaker 4: Just be ready again.

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Speaker 3: Any A lot of guys in energy and one of

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Speaker 3: the first one's.

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Speaker 4: There to move with guys say you that one.

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Speaker 11: Just keep your head up.

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Speaker 13: It's honest, mistake, just it's baseball. Shit happens. And just

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Speaker 13: keep your head up, will be good for long time

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Speaker 13: they come. It's not my fault done, just that opportunity

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Speaker 13: to score. Had a conversation Rob to Be saying, what

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Speaker 13: does that say mean to you? Are you know kay

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Speaker 13: about those guys picking you up so quick means a lot,

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Speaker 13: shows they care a lot, or.

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Speaker 4: Just means everything for sure.

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Speaker 7: M I'm sure a lot of guys in there I've

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Speaker 7: had moments early in their career hear that, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think kind of remember very.

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Speaker 9: Good that they.

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Speaker 4: You know, how much do you think you can use

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Speaker 14: Know, for for good for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the wall with the test ball for sure.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, just kind of keep going with it. Hopefully

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Speaker 13: it started a long career. Just keep back in my

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Speaker 13: head of this really fucking socks right now, but.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully stud guy to face the music and to answer

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Speaker 3: those questions and to answer calmly and honestly. And you

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Speaker 3: do feel bad for him, but again, that's sports. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: guys don't make the plays they should make due to

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Speaker 3: the pressure of the moment.

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Speaker 2: That's it for the In the Moment's podcast.

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