1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Reminder, every episode of this podcast premieres live on apps, 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: so download the app, subscribe to me at Richard Sherman 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: to tune into all of our shows live the volume. 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Mitchell the Draft. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: We finally get to talk about it, rich This has 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: always been my favorite time of year. I'm growing up 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: a Detroit Lions fan. This is all we had to 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: root for. Man, there were no Super Bowls, there were 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: no playoff games. This is the only thing we had 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: to look forward to. Richard, I'm hyped. I know you've 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: got to be a little hyped too. Tell me what 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: you think about this year's draft class, right? 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I remember I remember a time that Detroit Lions picked 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: like three receivers, like back to back to back. It 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: was like Roy Williams, freaking Jason was a Jason Williams. 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: That was We had them all. 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: We had Mike Williams, Mike Williams. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Charles Rogers, don't forget the fellow Spartan. Man. Those were 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: the fire million years, man, those were the fire million years. 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 2: I think we're still seeing some signs in Ford Field 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: down there. But rich we know your fans, we know 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: your followers love you some Seattle Seahawks. I want to 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: start with Seattle. They owned two first round picks, They're 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: fresh off a great offseason. Free agent additions, you know, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: building in the trenches, Dramont Jones, Jaron Reid's back, Devin Bush, 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: you get your boy Bobby Wagner back. This team all 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden, they had one glaring deficit, and that 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: was their run defense. They seem to have addressed it. 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: I want to start with their free agent additions. What 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: do you think of Seattle Seahawks offseason thus far? 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: I think it's been great. I think Bobby Wagner coming back, 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: getting all Pro middle linebacker back that shouldn't have left 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: in the first place, a leader of your defense back 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't have left in the first place, is gonna be 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: just phenomenal. It's gonna be tremendous for the team. It's 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: gonna be tremendous for their their poise down the stretch 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: of big games. There's you know, there's no way to 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: measure his impact, uh on the field. In off the field, 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: they addressed the middle of that defense. Of course, I 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: think they're still going to bring back Bruce Irvin. I 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: think they still expect big things out of mafe And 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: and the other pass rushers they got, but they have 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: to address it in draft. Offensively, I think they're fine. 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: They got your boy K nine in the backfield. They 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: got two really reliable good tackles, Abe Lucas uh and 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: And and Charles Cross. I think they believe in both 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: of those guys. They got two good receivers on the outside, 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: two Pro bowlers. They got Gino. I think the interior 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: offensive line is a question mark. I think Mike Jackson, 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: opposite of Tarik Woolan is gonna be fine. Jamal Adams 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: is on his way back on the men, so he 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: should be back in time for the season. Uh So 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: they get reinforcements at that position. And I still think 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: they've got to go defense in this number five pick. 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: I think they have to go defense. Whether it's Jayalen Carter, 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, can you have too many interior d linemen 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: that are great? No, you can't. Or if Will Anderson 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: somehow slips through the cracks, slips past Arizona, I think 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: he's your pick. You got a future great pass rusher 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: in this league, future ten twelve sec guy, Tyree Wilson. 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: I've heard rumors about him being there at that pick. 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: I'd rather them trade back a little bit and get him. 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's the number five pick 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. And with their second pick, I think 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: they gotta go defense again, you know, whether it's corner. 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Devin Witherspoon will be there. I don't 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: think Christian Gonzalez will be there. Hodges might be there. 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, Keey Ringo should still be there. But if 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: they want to go that direction, or if they want 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: to go pass rush again, you know, go pass rush twice. 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: He can never have enough of them, because that's such 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: a glaring weakness for well. 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: I just remember the league in the boom days. You 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: guys were obviously locked and loaded in the secondary. But 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: let's not let's not forget about what you guys had 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: in the front four. I mean, you guys had a 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: rotation where it was just persistent, get after the quarterback, 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: get after the quarterback. And whether you go dB or 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: you go D line, I don't think you can go wrong. 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Rich. 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you there. It's you know, this team. To me, 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: it's funny because you look at this point last season, 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: they traded Russell Wilson. We thought they were headed for 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: a rebuild. Everyone was abandoning the Seattle Seahawks ship, and 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, Pete Carroll has leveled this 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: thing out and they're back on the rise. This team, 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: I truly believe under Geno, the sky's the limit. And 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: if they if they put together rich an other draft 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: class like they had last year, even if it's you know, 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: seventy five percent of the draft class they had last year, 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: this team could do some serious serious damage in the 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: NFC West and in the NFC as a whole. You know, Richard, 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: there are huge, huge question marks after Geno Smith's contracts over. Obviously, 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: he's not a young buck anymore. I know. 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: He just he played it. Don't reach, Mitchell, you don't reach. 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: You don't reach early. You need an impact player right now. 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: You want to go to the playoffs again, you want 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: to make that kind of impact again. You don't reach 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: in the draft. 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: Well, Richard, we've seen other teams in similar situations. I 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: don't want to say that Patrick Mahomes grows on trees, 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: but you look at the Kansas City Chiefs and the 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: way they built this They were a playoff team under 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: Alex Smith. They were, you know, very very competitive, winning 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: a ton of games. But I think their management realized 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: there's a ceiling to this. Patrick Mahomes comes in and 107 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: elevates that ceiling. They got a huge skyscrapering elevator. 108 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: There's no ceiling elevators in this draft, Mitchell, I don't 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: believe there are. I feel like every year they hype 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks up because you have to. But Patrick Mahomes 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: is once at a generation. I mean, I guess Aaron 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers also, you know, but those guys aren't one, two, three, four, 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: five picks. You know, Burrows was the last top five 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: pick that's doing anything that that's relevant. I guess Herbert's 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: doing doing fine. But I feel like people get it 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: so enamored with these quarterbacks and like, man, you gotta 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: take a quarterback. Man, he's gonna be a difference maker. 118 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: These guys are not Patrick Mahons. There's nobody at five 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that's Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahons went twelve, like he didn't 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: go top five. If they would have known he was 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahons, he would have win zero. Hey would have 122 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: traded everything they could, Every team would have. But guess 123 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: what you don't know. So then you just pick these 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like they're they're they're building richardson up. Now he 125 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: went from not even a first round pick to the 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: number one pick. We'll will Levy's Levis whatever his name is. 127 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. The tape 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: doesn't they're not winners. You don't. You don't win games. Now, 129 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Bryce Young winner, c J. Stroud winner. But Bryce Young, 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: very undersized, very he's gonna have limitations now has been 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: a problem for him in college. It has not. He's 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: overcome that. He's been fine. Have there been quarterbacks to 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: overcome size and the National Football League their half, But 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: you look at the quarterbacks that are that are special 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: in this league that have had a lot of success. 136 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of top five picks that that 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: you're looking at and you're saying, hey, man, that guy 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: was a guy. You know, Cam Newton was great, Matt Ryan, 139 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: those guys won MVPs. You got to give him their credit. 140 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: But so as Lamar Jackson, Tom Brady is the greatest 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: of all time. Sixth round pick, Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP, 142 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty fourth pick. Like, so let's not get so enamored 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: with these guys in the top five, like they're going 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: to come in and light the league on fire, because 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: you're setting them up for failure. Now hopefully they do. 146 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully those guys come in and just light it up 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy, but the expectation is they. 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Want Well, you're talking about the quarterbacks. I want you 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: to put yourself in the GMC for the Carolina Panthers 150 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: picking number one overall. Obviously, I'd like to assume they're 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: are going to be taking a quarterback. Who would you take? 152 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: If you're forced to pick one of these guys? Who 153 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: do you think is that the most capable of elevating 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: your franchise. 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: I think CJ. Stroud's the guy I would pick, you know, 156 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I think I hear they're in love with Bryce Young, 157 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: but I think size is always an issue for me. 158 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: I think CJ. Strouds played in a lot of big games. 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young is played in a lot of 160 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: big games. But I think CJ. Stroud can come in 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: and make it an even eediant impact. Be Able to 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: lead a team, be able to command a team. He's 163 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: really accurate, he has a fantastic deep ball. I don't 164 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: think you can go wrong with either guy. But I 165 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: just hate the expectations that they're putting on these kids, 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: because you're you're sitting here expecting these kids to take 167 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: you to the Promised Land, and I'm not. These teams 168 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: aren't built to go to the promise Now. Carolina got 169 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: a great coaching staff, and they're putting some pieces in 170 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: place where where I think people might want to start 171 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: paying a little bit closer attention because they should be 172 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: a playoff team with that staff and the players that 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: they got, because my goodness, they got a good, good 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: dang staff. They got a lot of pros, and they 175 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: got at events that that can play the game. But 176 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I'm one of those pessimistic draft guys. 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not an optimistic draft guy. I'm not 178 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: sitting there like, man, these these guys are about to 179 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: light it on fire. Because what is the percentage of 180 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks that that that make a Super Bowl 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: or or that you know, have a huge impact. You know, 182 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: they're they're they're a handful. There's well, there was one 183 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: picked last year, but there's usually three to four picked 184 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: every year, and rarely are they the guys people. 185 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: Think they are, and we see a time after time 186 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: after time. Each year there's always an underwear warrior, for 187 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: lack of a better term. These guys that that you 188 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: know come into the Combine and absolutely light the world 189 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: on fire. We saw it this year with Anthony Richardson. 190 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: The talk of the town last year was Malik Willis. 191 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe he ran at the Combine, but everyone 192 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: saw his game tape. Here he is lighting the world 193 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: on fire at Liberty like you couldn't even couldn't make 194 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: it at Clemson. Goes to Liberty, you know, is a 195 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: human highlight. Everyone's enamored with this guy. You see him 196 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: going top fives and Mac drafts. Everyone's enamored except for 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the GMS. My question to you, rich is, obviously Anthony 198 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: Richardson has gotten a ton of hype for his athleticism, 199 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: but his production at the college level is eye opening. 200 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: Do you think this guy honestly Do you think this 201 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: guy honestly has potential to be a solid QB or 202 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: is he a bus bus bus written all over? 203 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna say anybody's a bus bus 204 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: bus because if you would have said, you know, coming 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: out of college, you know what would I've been, you 206 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: know what, I've had the career I had, Nobody would 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: have said it. You know, I don't know if I 208 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: would have said it. But at the end of the day, 209 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't like the combine. I don't like the pre 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: draft process. I wish the draft was in February. I 211 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: wish it was in February. Hey, get ignore all the fluff. 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Get the kids based off the tape. The tape talks. 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: The tape says it whether he can run a forty 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: and four five for three four two? What does the 215 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: tape say? Can he play the game? Corner running four 216 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to five can be all pro and stop receivers running 217 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: four to three. It's proven a corner running four to 218 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: three can get beat by ten yards on a goal route. 219 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: It's been proven. You could have pass rushers who got 220 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: eighteen sacks in college that can't get three over four 221 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: years in the league. Like you gotta study the tape 222 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and really look at the competition. That's why so many 223 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: SEC guys go because people say, hey, that's an SEC tackle, 224 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that's an SEC D lineman. Those are NFL talents. Now 225 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: let's see them go against each other. Are they having 226 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: the same level of success they are. They aren't having 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: success against these guys, but they're having success against Valdosa State. 228 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's not the same. And so I 229 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: think it's about the tape. I don't like that the 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: draft is in April. You sit here and put all 231 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: this fluff and all this nonsense in front of people. 232 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: I guess the NFL has to sell it, you know, 233 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: they sell all these products and make a lot of money, 234 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: so it makes sense for them. But if the draft 235 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: was in February, I'd be really happy because the teams 236 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: would get better players and they wouldn't get confused and 237 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: enamored and you know, all the smoke and mirrors of 238 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: all the nonsense. What does his tape look like? Is 239 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: he a winner? Can he get the job done? Usually 240 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty oftenous. Yeah, you're right. 241 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean there's guys like John Ross that are going 242 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: top ten strictly because of their forty time and as 243 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: a GM the competent ones. Look at the tape. Richard, 244 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: you talked about a guy that you want the Seattle 245 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Seahawks to potentially target at five, Jalen Carter out of Georgia. Obviously, 246 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: this guy going in to this year was viewed at 247 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: one A or one B, him and Will Anderson top 248 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: dogs on defense. Character is the question with Jalen You 249 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: know he has a serious issue. Let's not let's not 250 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: make light of it. The situation he went through in 251 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: January after they won the national title game resulting in 252 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: you know, speed speeding and unfortunate that of a couple 253 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: folks on his team, and obviously that leaves him in 254 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: a serious, serious, tough situation mentally, how much are you 255 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: concerned would it be for you to draft him as 256 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: a GM? Would you have any worries? 257 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a lot of worries. You got a 258 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of worries. You were the he was the consensus 259 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: number one pick for majority of the year. And when 260 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: you know that, Mitchell, I mean not saying you got 261 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: to wrap your life into ran rap or or and 262 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: and and and and bubble wrap. But you gotta be close, 263 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: like if you racing on the opposite side of traffic 264 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: at one hundred miles an hour and you knew you 265 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: were the number one pick, Mitchell, they need to study 266 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: your brain because that is what insanity looks like. And 267 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: so one hundred percent there are question marks, but this 268 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: is a national football league, Mitchell, And I'm sorry if I, 269 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: if I, if I seem crazy, because they will overlook 270 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: it if the man can play the game, and the 271 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: man can play the game, So there there will need 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: to be an incredible structure around this young man. You 273 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: cannot let him just say he's gonna be a pro 274 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: and let leave him to his own vices. You can't. 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: You got a structure. Structure. Hey, it may be somebody 276 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: living right next to him. You have to have somebody 277 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: live with him. Hey, you got meetings, wake up, get 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: to meetings like babysit this kid, because it's insane to 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: think a kid with the understanding I'm going number one 280 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: would make those decisions. Especially you just won a national championship. 281 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: Everything in your life is going great now. If things 282 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: were going bad, you know, maybe a tragic incident, somebody 283 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: passed away unexpectedly, mental process, a lot of things on 284 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: your mind, a lot of things. There's certain things you 285 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: would understand about that situation. Hey, he's going through a 286 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: hard time. Everybody's been through a hard time. Your brain 287 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: isn't functioning totally correct when you want. He was in 288 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: awesome times. These were the best of times and he's 289 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: making decisions like that, So that leaves a lot of questions. 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: So I'm speaking more about the talent of the human 291 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: being a guy who should have gone number one. If 292 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: people are saying he's falling out of the top ten, 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if he falls out of the top ten, 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: it'll say more about how far the league has come, 295 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: because that's not always been this league's of a guy's 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: character is questionable, but his play is outstanding. You know, 297 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: they always have those charts like, hey, does the talent 298 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: outweigh the concern which one are you willing to risk 299 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: your job on it? Which GM is willing to put 300 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: their stamp on it and change their franchise? And then 301 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: his pro day was disappointing, like you can't have all 302 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: these question marks and then have a pro day like that, 303 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Like were you tired? You're out of shape? 304 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: Not you? Yeah, it's the biggest meeting of his life, right, 305 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the biggest job interview of his life. 306 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: And that was concerning. But Richard, we've seen it a 307 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: year after year. I see like Lyle Collins goes undrafted, 308 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: Laramie Tunzel slips what twelve thirteen spots was considered a 309 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: top three pick just because of a gas mask weed 310 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: bomb came out the which is ten minutes before the drafts. 311 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Crazy setup, Crazy set up. Now he's the highest paid 312 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: tackle in all the football multiple times over and over 313 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: because he should have been the number one tackle that year. 314 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: But that's put to your point, Rich, I mean. 315 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Talent. 316 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Coaches teams look at talent, and obviously Jalen Carter has talent. 317 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: So Rich, let's flip it a little bit, because you 318 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: got an other team of interest, the forty nine ers. 319 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: They did what they could this offseason. They added a 320 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: Javon Hargrave, which was an impressive signing, you know, boosting already. 321 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: This is a generational defensive line they have right here, 322 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: and then you just, hey, insert Javon Hargrave. With the 323 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: bigger question looming over this team, obviously they're going to 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: have an elite, top three defense, probably the number one 325 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: overall defense again, but it's at the quarterback position. 326 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: The rumors are. 327 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: Swirling about Trey Lance and this is entering year three. 328 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: I was listening today. I think he's throwing a total 329 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: three hundred passes since high school and that includes college 330 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: and the pros. Three hundred passes let me ask you, Rich, 331 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: is it too soon to give up on this guy? 332 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: Where is John Lynch gonna move on from him? 333 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: They're not gonna move on from him, especially especially right now. 334 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, brock Perty's availability is at least for the 335 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: beginning of the season is unknown. So I don't think 336 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna go out there and say, hey, we're going 337 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald as our starting quarterback going forward, you know, 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: And at this point I don't. I don't see them 339 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: doing that. And now who knows. Just Sam Donald may 340 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: this may be the perfect scheme, perfect system, Brian Greasy, everybody, 341 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: everything works in his favor, and he, you know, Kyle 342 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Shanahan is a match made in heaven. We've seen that. 343 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: We've seen that happen where Kyle has a guy that 344 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: does the things that he needs to do well, he 345 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: processes well, and they have a year. Sam Donald down 346 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the stretch last season, last seven eight games of season, 347 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: played phenomenal and deserves a ton of credit. So but 348 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: to give up on Trey Lance this early, I don't 349 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: see it happening. And what people don't realize is with 350 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers not having a first round pick, 351 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: second round pick, the amount of salary that they're using 352 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: on this draft cast is substantially lower than say, the 353 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks are the other teams that have multiple first 354 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: round picks. They're going to be spending close to ten 355 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: million on a draft class, when San Francisco, I mean 356 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: may spend a million two million on a draft class. 357 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: And I mean with the way they're about to have 358 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: to pay Bosa with a portion of the team they need, 359 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: they need to save all the money they can, So 360 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I think Javon Hargrave is gonna, my goodness, if he 361 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: has a year anywhere near the year he had last 362 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: year for this team, then Bosa is going to have 363 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: an even better year than he had last year. Eric 364 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Armstead is gonna have even better year because they're gonna 365 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: have to double team Javon Hartgrave my goodness and embarrassment 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: of riches. And then they got to continue to develop 367 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson and in the back end, they're going to 368 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: continue to get better. Tar Various Ward is going to 369 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: continue to get better. Diamador Lenore show up in the 370 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: playoffs and gave them the confidence that they did not 371 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: resign e Man, but he signed to your Detroit Lions. 372 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great pickup in the secondary. You 373 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: talk about bringing Gibson back on a minimum deal. Todna 374 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: Noahufanga is a big time player. So they don't have 375 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: a lot of holes to draft in the first place, 376 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised they draft 377 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: a kicker or a punter or something of that nature. Interior, 378 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: offensive line and the centers. You know, it's something they 379 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: can probably go with, you know, trying to find one 380 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: in the second round, third round. But in terms of 381 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: giving up on Trey Lance, I don't see that happening. 382 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: I see I see him, you know, battling in training 383 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: camp with Sam Donald, and if they don't feel confident 384 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: in him, they'll they'll start Sam Donald. I mean, that's 385 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: that's a realistic possibility. The reason they were. 386 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: Able to get here, rich is they traded a lot 387 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: of their draft picks. I mean, they traded a number 388 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: of first round picks for Trey Lance. They just dealt 389 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: for Christian McCaffrey. Now they have an embarrassment of riches. 390 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: This team is absolutely locked and loaded. The only real 391 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: true question is going to be who starts at QB. 392 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: But we saw the la Rams take a similar approach. 393 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: It resulted in the Super Bowl. F them picks. It 394 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: got them a super Bowl. No one's gonna question that 395 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: Super Bowl is the Almighty right, But look at them. Now, 396 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: what do the San Francisco forty nine ers have to 397 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: do to prevent being in the same situation that the 398 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: La Rams are in a couple three four years from now? 399 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: They got they gotta trust they got a good front 400 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: office management because they're gonna have to pay Bosa and 401 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to say goodbye to people soon. You know, 402 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: this is going to probably be the last year of 403 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: this team being the way it is. You know, there's 404 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of heavy salaries coming up, and you know, 405 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: Fred Warner makes a lot of money. Eric makes a 406 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: lot of money. Bosa's about to make a lot of money, 407 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel makes a lot of money, Christian McCaffrey makes 408 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, when you have those 409 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: that many guys making a lot of money. Charvarius Ward 410 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: makes a lot of money. Talanoa Hufanger will make a 411 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: lot of money. And so that's when you know good teams, 412 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: good development, good drafting, makes it hard decisions they've done 413 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: themselves a favor by signing green Law early. You know, 414 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: before he got market value. They got him really early. 415 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: They got him to a nice fair deal, so they 416 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: got him under contract. But if they can do more 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: deals like that, I think they'll be fine. But right 418 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: now they don't have a deer on Bosa. They're not 419 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: getting a discount on Bosa. I mean, if it's under 420 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: thirty you got me. You call me bamboos with fruzzled 421 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: if it's under thirty million dollars. But I think this 422 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: is the year they have to do something. If I 423 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: was a GM, i'd be on that same wavelength. I 424 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: mean first round picks. Sauce Gardner was a first round 425 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: pick that made an immediate impact to make, you know, 426 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a generational player. But the hit or miss on first 427 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: round picks, I think it's twenty twenty five percent that 428 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: they're a Pro Bowl, All Pro player over the last 429 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, two decades. So would I would go second, 430 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: third round. I'd get rid of first rounders for established veterans. 431 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Second third round, I draft and try to draft well 432 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: in the second, third, fourth, fifth rounds. San Francisco has 433 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: done that, but they don't have a lot of holes, Mitchell. 434 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: Not, they damn very few holes. Like we said that, 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: that quarterback position seems to be the only question mark, Richard, 436 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: I want to talk about a former forty nine er coach, 437 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: the Miko Ryants. He said, the Houston Texans have been 438 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: making some noise this offseason. They seem to kind of 439 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: control that pivot point of the draft. Pick number one. 440 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: We know is going QB. But you know the Mico 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: well enough, this team, this team, they got your Stanford boy, 442 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: Davis Mills. Is that his name running the running QB? 443 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Do you take quarterback at two if you are the Texans? 444 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: Or are you going with Will Anderson the edge rusher? 445 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Obviously they freaking fun gold the plan all they have 446 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: to do is not win games. And they decided, hey, 447 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: at the wrong possible time, we're gonna win. What like, 448 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: you have the number one pick all season and then 449 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: decided at least. 450 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: They got momentum going into the offseason, rich Right, end 451 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: on a win? 452 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: Right, I guess I mean one and zero in twenty 453 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: twenty three, congratulations, my goodness. But when that draft comes 454 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: and they sitting there without the quarterback they want it, 455 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: they'll be sitting there like one in one twenty twenty three, 456 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: like my goodness, But I think they go defense. I 457 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: mean they got a lot of holes on defense. You 458 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of young playmakers, you know, obviously they 459 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: got Stingley last year. I think that's the direction you 460 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: should go quarterback. I mean, as one guy, you put 461 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: him behind that offensive line who's you know? I don't know, 462 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: I can they got they got Larmie Tunzel and a 463 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of people I can't name. And so I think 464 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: Justin Britz the center, and I'm not sure outside of that. 465 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: And so I think if you draft the quarterback, is 466 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: just the offensive line you one and behind? Is this 467 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: how you want to start his career? Do you have 468 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: the playmakers to around him for him to have any 469 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: level of success and have confidence? I don't think you do. 470 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: And so what you can do is build up him 471 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: up a defense that's ready to go. You got a corner, 472 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: you got a safety and Petrie h and I think 473 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: you got the front. And you can add to that 474 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: you had a Will Anderson or you had a a 475 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. Are you trade Bette getting more picks? Get 476 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: maybe get a player, you know, maybe you get a 477 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: veteran offensive guard or something. You know, you get a 478 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: player that can come help you right now. But I 479 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: don't think you take I don't think you take his 480 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: quarterback at two. 481 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: You know, if they wanted to go that route, they 482 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: could always target heading to Hendon Hooker in the second round. 483 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: I know he's a little bit higher up there in age, 484 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: but I mean the guy was lethal with Tennessee and 485 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: there are other options. But Richard, I'm curious to know, 486 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: are there any prospects outside of the top five, you know, 487 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: the big name guys that truly stand out to you 488 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: that you would take a shot at if you were 489 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: a GM you know, later in the first round. 490 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think Zay Flowers is going to be interesting. 491 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: I think he's an NFL player and he's gonna be 492 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: a playmaker, very sudden dynamic. I think the corners in 493 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: this draft are I can't wait to see him, Christian Gonzales, 494 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon, Hodges, Keeley Ringo. I think it's going to 495 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: be really cool to see these corners and where they 496 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: go and how they impact. Smith and Jigba from Ohio 497 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: State seeing highest game translates in the National Football League. 498 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: There's a couple of tackles, the tackle from Ohio State. 499 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: You know, usually you see a couple tackles in the 500 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: top five, in the top ten, and the fact that 501 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: they're projected fifteen sixteen is kind of weird. I don't 502 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: know what about their game that says they're not, you know, complete, 503 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: but usually you got at least one or two tackles 504 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: in the top ten. That's weird that they're not. And 505 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe they will be. You know, there's just not in 506 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: the projections right now. But I don't see a corner 507 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: going top five in this draft. But you know, Seattle 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: is known to surprise you. 509 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Richard. The other final big question, I mean, 510 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: there's a number of big questions looming for this draft, 511 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: but the hot ticket one is Aaron Rodgers. 512 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: First off, I don't think Jordan Love is quarterback in 513 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: the future. Green Bay. You did it. You had a 514 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: great quarterback for thirty years. Good job, Welcome to mediocrity. 515 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: That is where you'll be for the next However, long 516 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: y'all think Jordan Love, because I've heard that. It's pissed 517 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: me off for a long time. Everybody's screaming, well, Aaron 518 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers is done and we're happy with Jordan Nuve. Okay, 519 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: like okay, like I can't wait, I can't wait. When 520 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: you wait things that you're missed. You're gonna have the postcards, Mitchell, 521 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna have postcards like longing for Aaron Rodgers full 522 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: time MVP. You will not sniff a Super Bowl my goodness. 523 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: But it's such a lack of appreciation. You know, people 524 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: are like, well, he's he's distracted. They just won MVP 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: the year before, Like, leave him alone. I don't care 526 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: what he's doing. A yeah, ungrateful, but but so if 527 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: i'm him, Jets, y'all know simmy. Look y'all got Hackett. 528 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: I know the offense. I'm gonna run the offense. Hey, Hackett, 529 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: make sure those receivers are running the routes and know 530 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: my signals. When I get there, I'll see guys in 531 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: training camp. Don't worry about it. I'm Aaron Rodgers. 532 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: He is Aaron Rodgers Packers fan base. I'm going to 533 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: say it. I'm an NFC North residence. If you will, Rich, 534 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: They've been spoiled beyond belief. I mean, what franchise goes 535 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. If this Jordan Love 536 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: pans out, then God bless them. But I'm telling you 537 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: right now, Rich, it's it's this team's time. It's this 538 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: amounts time. It's the Detroit Lions time in the NFC North. 539 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: We talked about it briefly right after that Thanksgiving game 540 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: when they never really lost to the Buffalo Bills. I said, 541 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: this is going to be the turning point for this franchise, 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: this team. It's the Detroit Lions time in the North. 543 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, get gone, Jordan Love. Let's just pray the 544 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: Packers are headed for mediocrity. Rich, That's all I have 545 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: to say. 546 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Hey, I guarantee you every NFC North team is excited 547 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: to see Jordan Love. Ecstatic. I gear around tee it. 548 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, nobody will fear you going forward. Understand 549 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: that there is not a game somebody's gonna see the 550 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in without Aaron Rodgers in the jersey 551 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: and have fear for you. So congratulations on all your 552 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: years of like walking into stadiums and having one of 553 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: the best players on it. You don't have it anymore. 554 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: So hate me all you want, but understand you had 555 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: something great for a long time. You didn't appreciate him 556 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: on his way out, Wait and see goodbye, Richard. 557 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: This concludes our draft coverage little recap of the NFL offseason. 558 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a little breather for the next month here, 559 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: but we're gonna be right back at with you guys here. 560 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: I'll let you sign off here, rich. 561 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you guys joining us again. You know what 562 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: time and the place we'll be back. It's gonna be 563 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of quiet dead period for us, but 564 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll be back with a vengeance. 565 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: With all the info you need. Stick with us. 566 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: The volume