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Speaker 1: She screamed, she cried, she throw up, she throw up.

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Speaker 2: Your grammar is fuck dude, gamsy media charge flash, Rory.

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Speaker 1: We've been studying crime for a while now, which I

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Speaker 1: think means we can spot rookie mistakes when we see them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take for example, the story the morning of April fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Francesca Witcough went out to her car

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Speaker 1: in Maricopa, Arizona, only to find the tires slashed bummer.

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Speaker 1: But fortunately for Francesca, the perpetrator left some clues.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Specifically, she found a severed finger and a trail of

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Speaker 1: blood leading directly to her neighbor's house. You want to

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Speaker 1: guess who did it?

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Speaker 3: Rory?

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Speaker 2: That seems too obvious. This is actually a really smart criminal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was a herring or someone It was a

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Speaker 2: Someone was like, this will throw the scent off the trail. Alas, No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she called the police. Cops came to document the crime,

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Speaker 2: took the finger into evidence. Even without the finger and

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Speaker 2: the trail of blood leading directly to the culprit's house,

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Speaker 2: Francesca already knew who did it because the night before,

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Speaker 2: she and her husband had gotten into a drunken disagreement.

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Speaker 1: With that neighbor at a party. Have you ever had

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Speaker 1: a fight with your neighbors like that that escalated to this?

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Speaker 3: No, not to this. I've had some.

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Speaker 2: I've had some quarrels with my neighbors, but not like this,

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Speaker 1: Actually once I did cut my fingers.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, one time we did do sort of

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Speaker 1: So another neighbor, Francesca, told a reporter had quote heard

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine that scene when you get so

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Speaker 1: He just like he was so drunk and just slashed

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Speaker 1: Like I don't even know if you're slashing a tire,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to slash a tire.

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Speaker 2: I can't say, you know, movies and TV shows make

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Speaker 2: this perpetrator thought I'll just do what I've seen in

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Speaker 1: Pictures, like you just cutting into a balloon.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what they thought, and they maybe got

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Speaker 3: You're just like, holy fuck my finger.

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Speaker 1: You're just screaming and running. And then it's only several

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Speaker 1: You're like they heard me. If I go out now,

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Speaker 1: Crimeless as we conduct a thorough review of the first

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Speaker 1: lesson they teach at criminal school, do not leave your

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Speaker 3: Big No No.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Crime Lists, the podcast that celebrates the

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Speaker 2: amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals, hosted and produced

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Speaker 2: by people who have all ten of their fingers.

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Speaker 1: I think, ewen, do you have ten fingers? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: The same in New Zealand. I wasn't sure about New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe there was a chance you guys evolutionarily

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Speaker 1: The possums do occasionally bite fingers off.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Dean and I'm Rory Scovell, crime expert Rory Scovell.

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Speaker 1: As he is known at the conferences. Yeah, so, Rory.

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Speaker 1: We're always looking for new ways to push the envelope

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Speaker 1: to branch in a new and surprising areas of dumb crime,

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Speaker 1: and today's episode is a doozy. It is fully dedicated

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Speaker 1: to crimes involving severed fingers. Yes, none of which are murders. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's only severed fingers, which is probably more disturbing than murder.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're the person that loses a finger, probably

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Speaker 1: I have to imagine for a cop, a severed finger

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Speaker 1: It's like shooting a fish in a barrel. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Folks always grab your finger if he pops off while

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Speaker 2: But if they slammed the door, did that finger pop

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that was the second consecutive crime in which the

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Speaker 2: So Joshua grabbed that beautiful spool. Yeah, but when he

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Speaker 1: A neighbor speculated about what happened to poor Joshua. Quote.

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Speaker 2: I feel it too, Like anytime you've jammed your finger

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Speaker 1: The guard called La Pelisia, but before they arrived, the

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Speaker 3: Look at this time out, time out, stop, time out.

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Speaker 1: That's my finger. Well, this might influence your decision. Medical

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Speaker 1: It's a headline from twenty or actually two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Customer refuses to return severed finger.

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Speaker 1: It's early May two thousand and five, and a guy

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Speaker 1: named Clarence Stowers buys a pint of chocolate custard from

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Speaker 1: Cole's Frozen Custard in Wilmington in the other Carolina. Have

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Speaker 3: I have I've not been. I've been to Wilmington, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever read a frozen custard?

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Speaker 1: Well, so why is it not ice cream? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I think it's the I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like probably the fat content or something

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Speaker 1: I just wondered if it was like a regional thing

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Speaker 2: People kept fingers, there was a different value on them

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Speaker 3: People didn't return them.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, well not like today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and people were doing more custard than they were

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Speaker 2: Gelatto wasn't even heard of yet. It hadn't leaved it

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Speaker 2: hadn't leaved Italy yet. As the season goes on, I

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Speaker 1: Right. So Clarence is a patient guy. He waits at

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Speaker 3: Oh fuck.

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Speaker 1: He assumed it was candy and he popped in his mouth.

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Speaker 3: It was not candy. Alert.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was candy because they put candy in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 2: It was a severed finger, Josh for five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: it was a severed finger.

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Speaker 1: I have to read you the rest of his quote.

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Speaker 1: I said, God, this ain't no nut. So I came

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Speaker 2: And I just started screaming, which I think is fair. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you can start puking. I would have puked

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Speaker 1: Trying to imagine your wife coming into the kitchen after

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Speaker 2: I heard going I'm never kissing you ever again, loudly

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Speaker 1: What a shocking thing you like, take a bite of

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Speaker 1: It's not even in the realm of things that you

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Speaker 1: t shirts list.

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Speaker 3: Is a god.

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Speaker 1: This ain't no nut, This ain't no nut.

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Speaker 3: Severed finger hashtag, severed finger alert hashtag.

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Speaker 1: It turns out that just before I have the story

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Speaker 1: a twenty three year old named Brandon Freiser was working

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Speaker 1: While attempting to catch said custard, he accidentally put his

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Speaker 2: That is wild timing. That's crazy, man. Is it weird

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Speaker 2: that this whole story I've really been like, God, I

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Speaker 3: Like, I haven't even been dissuaded.

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry. So I kind of feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: What are the odds that would happen to you?

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't happen twice.

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Speaker 1: Come on, however, So Brandon has rushed to the hospital

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Speaker 3: On its way to their house.

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Speaker 1: So when Clarence returned to the scene of the crime

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Speaker 3: Interesting, wave it around like a tiny.

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Speaker 1: Little finger, He said he would be calling TV stations,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting because it's like, it wasn't malicious, No,

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Speaker 1: God bless America. He saw opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I do get that.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'd be so grossed out too, I'd be like,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it was an accident. You guys are

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Speaker 3: I'm suing you.

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Speaker 1: A few days later, during a telephone interview with the AP,

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Speaker 1: Clarence said he wasn't revealing where the finger was. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying who has it, but somebody has it, he said.

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Speaker 3: Smart.

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Speaker 1: As the week went on, though, he started to have

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Speaker 1: the shop owner offering to give the finger back if

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Speaker 1: it could be reattached, but as we now know, it

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Speaker 1: and once it was in put in the freezer, it

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Speaker 1: was useless. Freezing a finger ruins the chance of reattachment

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Speaker 1: because it.

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Speaker 2: Kills the cells. Rory, Oh didn't know that. You're learning

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Speaker 2: so much time, So I wonder can that employee sue him?

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Speaker 1: Oh, good question. It's a robos.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're probably outside the statue of limitations.

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Speaker 1: But so if your finger's cut off, you have six

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Speaker 3: And that guy showed up with it thirty minutes later.

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Speaker 3: You're right, and they had so much time to get

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Speaker 1: Then they wasted so enough time that it was too late.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's you and it's your finger, you're like,

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Speaker 2: I will follow you home and I will kill your

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Speaker 3: Give me my finger right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about this poor guy?

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Speaker 2: Did he not like completely? He's like, I feel like

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Speaker 2: we've left him out of the story. Yeah, he's like, wait,

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Speaker 2: you have my finger, but you're not giving it to me.

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Speaker 2: I would be like, I will figure out where you live,

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Speaker 2: and I will find every gun that I can find,

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Speaker 2: and I will come to your house.

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Speaker 3: Give me my finger right now.

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Speaker 1: Also, wouldn't the police do it, like can you hold it?

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Speaker 3: Also? Six to twelve hours?

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Speaker 2: The police had time now granted the guy throw it

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Speaker 1: Is this like some version of kidnas stealing part of

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Speaker 2: This is just, honestly, this is just classic Wilmington, North

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Speaker 3: I think we all know politically, that's just what the

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Speaker 3: South is.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely caring a lot about others, unless it

445
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Speaker 2: was a black finger, and then they were like no, no,

446
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Speaker 2: And now we're going to get so many letters from

447
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Speaker 2: the state of South Carolina the governor, I hope, dare

448
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Speaker 2: you call this racist until we rewrite his theme song?

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Speaker 1: Oh win him back? Remember how we did that for Florida.

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Speaker 3: I do remember that.

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Speaker 1: A few months later, Clarence did sue Cole's frozen Custard

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Speaker 1: for the psychological trauma and post traumatic stress caused by

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Speaker 1: the negligence lawsuit. He was looking for ten grand and damages.

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Speaker 1: The case was dismissed in October of the next year,

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Speaker 1: so he tried to sue, saying that psychological trauma for

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Speaker 1: him the guy who took the finger, not the guy

457
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Speaker 1: whose finger was cut off. But I do have news

458
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Speaker 1: about him, Brandon. Yeah, he and his nine fingers contain.

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Speaker 1: I need to work at Cole's Custard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He told the Star News month later that I'm doing fine.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm mentally all right. Everything's going fine, which is what

463
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Speaker 1: someone who's definitely not fine, would.

464
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Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I'm fine. I swear I'm fine. I'm fine. Okay,

465
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Speaker 3: just no one asked you and you just said it

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Speaker 3: three times.

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Speaker 1: Because definitely what you say when someone asked how you're doing,

468
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Speaker 1: you say, I'm mentally all right.

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Speaker 3: I am mentally a Okay.

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Speaker 1: If I said, Rory, how you doing, and I'm mentally fine?

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Speaker 2: Five mentally five stars? Not what I asked Rory, physically

472
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Speaker 2: not nine stars, not as many stars.

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Speaker 1: Physically barely holding it together.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, making the custard it is not easier, Just

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: Clear, so, Brandon said. He also considered a lawsuit against

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Speaker 1: Clarence for not returning the severed portion of his finger

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Speaker 1: in time, but decided not to. I'm not a suing

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Speaker 1: kind of guy, he said. He's got his life to

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Speaker 1: live and I've got mine. What a what a guy?

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Speaker 3: Love that?

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Speaker 1: But then he changed his mind.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Two years after the custard incident, Brandon filed a civil

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Speaker 1: suit against Clarence, but that case was voluntarily dismissed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: before we move on, I just want to point out

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Speaker 1: this was not an isolated incident. A Cole's custard.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, less than a year.

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Speaker 1: Before the event, at the same location, another Coals employee

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Speaker 1: accidentally severed a finger on the same machine.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, Coles is negligent. You could probably

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Speaker 2: suit Coles allegedly negligent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The state Department of Labor, however, cleared the restaurant of

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Speaker 1: any wrongdoing. So maybe it's just dumb employees.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you have a job where you

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Speaker 1: work a saw and you cut your finger off, I

499
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Speaker 1: think that's your fault.

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Speaker 3: This is going to completely.

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Speaker 2: Change my dairy Queen experiences from now on, Like I'm

502
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Speaker 2: going to have to rummage through the blizzard a little bit,

503
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Speaker 2: a little bit harder.

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Speaker 3: Right, what is a heath bar? What is a finger?

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Speaker 1: That? Is that a nail? Is that nugget? Or is

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Speaker 1: that finger muscle?

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Speaker 3: Bone? Meat?

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Speaker 2: This is gonna blow up and darry Queen's gonna have

509
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Speaker 2: to change their slogan. Yeah that's not a finger. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 2: that's a heath bar, not a finger, Dairy Queen swear

511
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Speaker 2: to God those toppings are supposed to be in there.

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Speaker 1: After the break, we dive into a steaming cup of

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Speaker 1: Wendy's chin with a very specialized radio. Oh no, this

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Speaker 1: is Corlis Rory. Do you remember the great Wendy's Chile

515
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Speaker 1: incident of two thousand and five?

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Speaker 3: No, but I have a feeling I'm gonna have nightmares

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: Now this is all over the news back then. Where

519
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: were you in two thousand and five?

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Speaker 3: Washington, d C?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

522
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Speaker 1: What were you doing?

523
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Speaker 3: Do in stand up comedy? Starting my career?

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Speaker 1: For context, this is the month that the US Office

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Speaker 1: premiered on NBC. So oh nice that I was actually

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Speaker 1: helpful timeline for me. Why Washington, d C?

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Speaker 2: My sister lived there and I just moved there to

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Speaker 2: get into stand up and that was my liaison into

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Speaker 2: the adult world.

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Speaker 1: Was that your first professional gig was in Washington, d C?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's where I started going to open

532
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Speaker 2: mics and stuff. But at the time I worked for

533
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Speaker 2: the Department of Defense. What for a government contracting firm

534
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Speaker 2: who for the Department of Defense called IBA WHOA And

535
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Speaker 2: I was basically a secretary. Oh, but I was called

536
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Speaker 2: a desktop support specialist and I was so bad at it.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that title means.

538
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: But I would get supplies and I would fix the

539
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Speaker 2: copier if it seemed easy. Did you have top secret

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Speaker 2: clearance at nothing. Some four star generals came in for

541
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Speaker 2: their meetings and stuff, and I learned you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: stand up when they walk in.

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Speaker 1: Are you supposed to salute them?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: You just stand up out of respect. And I was like, oh, well, okay,

546
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Speaker 2: what's going on? Oh we're all standing all right?

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Speaker 1: That's news you can use. Yeah, crimelost station, that's right.

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Speaker 1: If a general enter is stand, just stand all right.

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Speaker 1: So this happened just months before Brandon Stowers found a

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Speaker 1: finger in his custard in North Carolina. Okay, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: It's March twenty second, two thousand and five in San Jose, California,

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Speaker 1: and Anna Ayala was dining inside a Wendy's with her family,

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Speaker 1: and dining is what we call it at Wendy's, Yes,

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Speaker 1: dining dining in Anna ordered chili, which is a bold

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Speaker 1: choice to start with.

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Speaker 3: Well, Wendy says, a pretty good chili.

557
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Speaker 1: Lo and behold, she bites into that chili and finds.

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Speaker 2: Bump, bump, a digit of a finger. Which one which

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Speaker 2: which finger? I feel like that makes a difference. Let's

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Speaker 2: see if we find out it's never the middle finger,

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Speaker 2: it's always like a pinky or the ring finger, or

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Speaker 2: maybe an index index. Sometimes you get the index's never right.

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Speaker 1: It's rarely a thumb.

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Speaker 3: It's rarely a thumb, it's rarely the middle finger.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if we're ranking fingers to lose, thumb,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely number one, the worst one to lose, the.

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Speaker 2: Worst to lose. You want to lose the pinky. I

568
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Speaker 2: can't see the advantage of the ring finger.

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Speaker 1: So you think pinky first, then ring finger.

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Speaker 2: I would probably want to lose ring finger just to

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Speaker 2: maintain index and thumb.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't want to lose this lane.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to run a pole. Yeah, let's let's

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Speaker 1: pull the listeners.

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Speaker 3: Pull the listeners. Which finger is best to.

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Speaker 1: Ranking in one to five? I think is indisputably number one? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where do you go lane? Which one?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm losing the pinky first?

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Speaker 3: Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm with you. Rory's going ring finger,

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Speaker 1: all right, ring finger. We'll take this to the people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the chili finger was a ring finger.

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Speaker 3: See there you go.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Rory always a ring finger.

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Speaker 2: So she screamed, she cried, she throw up, she threw up,

586
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: she throw up. Your grammar is fucked, dude, terrible. I

587
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Speaker 2: may be drunk, and then she leaved the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: What has happened? That's what her daughter told News three.

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00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: It's just nasty. After the incident, Anna Ayella planned to

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Speaker 1: sue Wendy's for emotional trauma. Do you remember or do

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Speaker 1: you have a sense of what the twist here might be?

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Speaker 1: Rory in this one.

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Speaker 3: I don't fully remember this, so I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's a hoax.

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Speaker 2: Oh Anna put the finger in the chili herself and

596
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Speaker 2: tried to sue Wendy's to make a fortune the American

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Speaker 2: way by suing someone who didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. That's what we're about.

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Speaker 1: But of course we wouldn't be talking about it if

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Speaker 1: it hadn't backfired. So let me explain. So this was

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Speaker 1: a real finger, though there was a finger, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna walk you through the story as it played out.

603
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Speaker 1: So for the first month, it's absolute chaos trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what the hell happened with that chili. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about the finger on the news, the water cooler,

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Speaker 1: Anna and her lawyer going Good Morning America to take

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Speaker 1: Wendy's to task.

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Speaker 2: God damn lane, do we have video of that to

609
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Speaker 2: take Wendy's to task.

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Speaker 5: Well, as I was eating my chili, I usually crack

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Speaker 5: all my crackers, mix it all around, and started eating

612
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Speaker 5: and suddenly I choose something that's kind of hard, crunchy,

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Speaker 5: crushed out. At first, I wasn't sure what it was.

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Speaker 5: And as we started investigating poking it just when we

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Speaker 5: find that there's something that looks like a nail.

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Speaker 1: Oh, pretty calm and collected. There, she's like lying fairly convincingly.

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Speaker 1: I would believe that. Would you watch that and think

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Speaker 1: she was lying?

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Speaker 3: I would not have thought she was lying.

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Speaker 1: So meanwhile, Wendy's is scrambling. Dave Thomas and co. Are

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Speaker 1: hemorrhaging profit DT a million dollars a day. Yeah, so

622
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Speaker 1: this is like doing real damage to Wendy's brand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's fingers in chili. Not good for your brain when

624
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Speaker 1: you're a fast food chain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: However, an internal investigation found no wrongdoing, and within days

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Speaker 1: the County Health Department, which also investigated, concluded that all

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Speaker 1: chili preparation procedures were documented and.

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Speaker 3: Up to code.

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Speaker 1: They checked all hands of employees, all fingers were there,

631
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Speaker 1: all hands on debt, backtrack to the supplier and the

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Speaker 1: distributor of the ingredients, no missing fingers. The Santa Clara

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Speaker 1: County Corner concluded the finger was quote not consistent with

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Speaker 1: an object that had been cooked in chili at one

635
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy degrees for three hours, as is Wendy's

636
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Speaker 1: chili policy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, with what I can only imagine is a great

639
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Speaker 1: corporate side of relief, Wendy and its suppliers are cleared

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Speaker 1: of any responsibility for the finger and the chili which

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Speaker 1: did not solve the mystery. So investigators start looking at Anna.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: What do you know, She's got a bit of a

644
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Speaker 1: litigious history. Oh, in two thousand and four, a year before,

645
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Speaker 1: Anna successfully sued El Poyo Loco after her daughter allegedly

646
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: contracted salmonella poisoning, and she unsuccessfully had sued a car

647
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Speaker 1: company when the wheel fell off her car. In fact,

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Speaker 1: according to a police affidavit, Anna had filed at least

649
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Speaker 1: thirteen civil actions in California and Nevada involving her family.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, so.

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Speaker 2: Rory off times get tough. Yeah, this is a plan

652
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Speaker 2: for you. I don't mind this, have fun. Just sue

653
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: people it's America. We're basic set up for this.

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00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: This is what we do. It's what we do. We

655
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: like blow shit up, we sue each other, we scam people. So, yeah,

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00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: she took down at Poyo Loco. I mean not literally,

657
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: they're still in business. Yeah, she won that one. Yeah,

658
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: Wendy's sets a reward. This is turning into it. This

659
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: is like an episode of Law and Order, Rory, so

660
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: buckle up. Wendy sets a reward for fifty thousand dollars

661
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: and then upset to one hundred thousand dollars for information

662
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Speaker 1: identifying the fingers owner, and they set up a hotline

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Speaker 1: for any finger tips. Yeah see what I did there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah tips, fingertips.

665
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: I got it. Okay, I heard it. I heard it,

666
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: and that's my reaction.

667
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: I think that's appropriate.

668
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: I'll take that.

669
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Calls are pouring in about people who've recently lost a finger.

670
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: More than three hundred people call to talk about missing fingers,

671
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: which makes me want to just set up a hotline

672
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: upon crimeless.

673
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, call us with your actually, what the hell? If

674
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: you're hearing this, please call us with your.

675
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: Missing finger stores. We also would like to cover these. Yeah,

676
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: we'll insert the number at the end. Mexican law enforcement

677
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: is even called in to assist after a rumor surfaces

678
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: about a finger being transported across the border.

679
00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

680
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: One woman calls to say she lost a finger trying

681
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: to break up a dog fight, and quote, apparently the

682
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: hospital lost her finger.

683
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

684
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Sandy Almond from Nevada calls to say, and this is

685
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: not a one I saw coming that she'd lost a

686
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: finger in a leopard attack at home the month before. End.

687
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: Quote does not know what happened to the finger.

688
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: More common than you think, more common than you think.

689
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: DNA testing later confirmed it was not Sandy's lost finger

690
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: from the leopard attack. Finally, on April thirteenth, Anna drops

691
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: her lawsuit, citing great emotional stress. I think she could

692
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: smell the police getting closer to identifying the finger, and

693
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: they did. The lead comes through the Wendy's tiplun Yeah,

694
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: and leads them to a coworker of Anna's husband, Jime,

695
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: yes or Jamie, but it spelled Hime.

696
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: So I'm gone. You're tripping up, Keep going.

697
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Keep A man named Brian Paul la Rossiter had lost

698
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: part of his finger in a mechanical truck lift at work.

699
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: Instead of tossing his digit, or I guess reattaching it.

700
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: He kept it wrapped in some plastic wrap in a

701
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: drawer at home, as one does. So what the hell?

702
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: Another I would not have imagined is that you lose

703
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: your finger at work and your reaction is I'll just

704
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: wrap it in some plastic and put it in a drawer.

705
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it, just hear, in a drawer.

706
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Putting that aside for now. Some months later, Hime approaches

707
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Brian about buying the finger yep, but won't say why.

708
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Nothing weird about that at all. Like, hey, dude, remember

709
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: when your finger got caught off at work? Could I

710
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: like take that off your hands?

711
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

712
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: Literally, Roy, it's already been taken off his It's like

713
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: it's not there anymore. It's not there anymore. Rory, what

714
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: do you think the.

715
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Going rate is for an old finger in a drawer?

716
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Okay? So I'm gonna go one thousand dollars?

717
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: It's one hundred dollars okay, fifty in cash and then

718
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: fifty forgiven from a debt. Brian ode Jamie, Oh, yep, okay,

719
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: this is the sad low Stakes missing finger story. It

720
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: was only after Brian saw the news reports about the

721
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: finger and the chili that he confronted him and came clean.

722
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: So basically, it sounds like he sold him the finger

723
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: without needing to know the explanation, which I feel like

724
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I might need that context, Like, all right, I'll sell

725
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: it to you.

726
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: He just wanted out of that fifty dollars debt. Bad.

727
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with it?

728
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Man?

729
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell you. When Brian found out that

730
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: his long lost finger was implicated in a scandal, his

731
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: first call was to his mom before she saw the headlines.

732
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: She recalled that shocking call to the San Francisco Chronicle.

733
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Brian said, Mom, do you know what's happened? The last

734
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: time he said something like that to me was nine

735
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: to eleven, So I'm gonna guess he had some urgency

736
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: in his voice. He calls mom, he says, Mom, can

737
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: he believe what happened? And it's because his finger been

738
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: cut off, put in a drawer, then sold to a

739
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: coworker and used in an attempted extortion fraud case at Wendy's. Yeah,

740
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: it sounds like Brian struggled with his newfound fame after that.

741
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: According to the Chronicle, he spent one drunken evening at

742
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: his favorite bar, asking people if they quote wanted to

743
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: shake the most famous hand in America bar patron's bottom

744
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: shots of his favorite drink, Goldschlager. Then, after one too

745
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: many shots of snops, he started getting belligerent and cursed

746
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: out his mother, who had leaked his identity to the press.

747
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: Porter Is knocked on his door the next day. He yelled,

748
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: it's been hell, you don't even know.

749
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm too famous now and I'm missing a finger.

750
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm missing a finger.

751
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: When I try to wave people off, I don't have

752
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: enough digits to accurately communicate.

753
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't want the fame.

754
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: On the other hand, you have an amazing story for

755
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: what happened. People are like, what happened to your finger?

756
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Usually it's like a fuck I cut it off at work,

757
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, sit down, sir. Yeah, there's a twist,

758
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: another twist. So before police had even id'd, Brian Anna

759
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Is arrested on charges from another case. Completely Apparently, someone

760
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: called the tip line to say that she and her

761
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: husband had scammed them over the sale of a trailer,

762
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: so she scammed it all across the Wow Jamie's arrested

763
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: on unrelated felony charges including failure to pay child support

764
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: and identity theft.

765
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: So not a great general mist How do you even

766
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: keep track of all the crime? You just don't more

767
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: like crime full right right, crime fault.

768
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Crime full coming next season, Crime Full. On September ninth,

769
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: just five months after that first bite of finger, Chili,

770
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Anna pleads guilty to charges of conspiracy to file the

771
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: false insurance claim, attempted grand theft, plus fraud related to

772
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: the mobile helme sale. Jamie pleads guilty to the same

773
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: conspiracy and grand theft charges, in addition to charges from

774
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: the other cases of failing to pay child support, child endangerment,

775
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: identity theft, and official documents fraud. Jesus christ Anna sentenced

776
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: nine years in prison, but appeals are sentence reduced to four.

777
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: She's released on parole in two thousand and nine. Okay,

778
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Jamie gets more. He had more charges. He gets twelve

779
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: years and four months. They're both ordered to pay nearly

780
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: twenty one million in restitution to Wendy's in damages.

781
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, how do you even do that? It's like

782
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: they don't have twenty one million dollars and.

783
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: They're never going to I think they just put a

784
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: lean on everything basically. Yeah, so like if you make

785
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: twenty one thousand, they take whatever you don't need for rent.

786
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

787
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: And here's the worst part.

788
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Anna's banned for life from all Wendy's h Come on,

789
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Judge the Baconator. Come on, you can't do that. Those

790
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: paddies are square and you can't get that anywhere else.

791
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Rory, You'd think that would be the last we hear

792
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: of her.

793
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: Frosty's with your French fries. You can't do that in

794
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: other places.

795
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: The Dollar Man, you saved me in high school.

796
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean when the dollar menu started incredible, I was like,

797
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: this country does care about us.

798
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: It does. I mean, I'm not like I had so

799
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: little money. We had an open campus, so we're allowed

800
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: to go out for lunch in high school, and would

801
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: go out it like like five bucks to spend.

802
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: I could get a full feast at Wendy. Oh yeah,

803
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: that's lunch and dinner it is. Yeah, I could get

804
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: the junior bacon fries. Frosty still have two bucks left? Yep,

805
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: you tip, you just left it. You were so rich,

806
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Just keep that's for you. You'd wink at them.

807
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: That's for you. All right, So this isn't the last

808
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: we hear this, lady.

809
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Anna's back in the headlines. Eight years later.

810
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.

811
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: She sentenced two more years in prison for being an

812
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: accessory to another felony.

813
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: What in the fuck?

814
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: The previous October, her son had accidentally shot himself in

815
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: the ankle. Okay, but he was he was on parole

816
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: at the time, so he wasn't allowed to have the gun.

817
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: So Anna file is a false police report, making up

818
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: a story that her son had been shot by two men.

819
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: The son eventually cracked himself during questioning and fessed up

820
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: that he shot himself. And that's still not the end

821
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: of Anna rory.

822
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, some people, some people just built different. They're

823
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: just built different.

824
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: She can't stay out of the news. So for our final,

825
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: I hope for now appearance, it's twenty twenty four, and

826
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: Anna's back. She's in the New York Times this time. Yes,

827
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: but she didn't commit any crimes in this case. Yeah.

828
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: The Times publishes an interview interviewing a variety of voters.

829
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: One of those voters is Anna Ayala of northern California,

830
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: who's quoted the saying she plans to vote for Donald

831
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Trump in November despite being a Democrat. Her primary reason,

832
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: the border is out of control. Yeah, because that's definitely

833
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: what's hurt her life.

834
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: It's just out of control.

835
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: It led her to do all of this, I'm sure.

836
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: And of course, Anna section is later removed with a

837
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: spicy correction and I will read that for you. The

838
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: Times removed comments from one voter in an earlier edition

839
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: of this article after learning that the person had been

840
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: convicted in an extra scheme in which she made fraudulent claims. Yep,

841
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: what a lady can't escape your past? Classic. I think

842
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't even need to vote. Like she goes into

843
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: the crimeless Hall of Fame. Yeah, on first ballot, she's

844
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: a lock.

845
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: This is like are the Rolling Stones getting into the

846
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: rock and Roll Hall of Are we gonna let the

847
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Beatles in?

848
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Congratulations Anna, Anna, you did it.

849
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: You really did some things. But you never stopped crime.

850
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: You never stopped criming, never stopped never stopping, never stopped criming.

851
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: After the break, we play that game where you spread

852
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: your fingers out on the table and the other person

853
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: as a night.

854
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and Lane makes us do it.

855
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: In fact, it's the most dangerous of the lanes schemes.

856
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to crime lists Ory. What time

857
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: is it?

858
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: It is time for Lane games.

859
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Lane has said that we should each reach under our

860
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: chair and we'll find something duct taped there.

861
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah it's a knife.

862
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Oh I got a finger?

863
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: Okay, So today we talked about fingers ending up in food,

864
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: So today our trivia is about finger food aka or dervs.

865
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, okkay, all right, my line of thought there makes sense.

866
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: So in the style of appetizers, I have a sampling

867
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: of different types of questions charcuterie of trivia, so to speak.

868
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: Oh oh, all right.

869
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: So the first type of questions are translation based because

870
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: a lot of the phrases we associate with finger foods

871
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: are French. So please translate the following phrases. Shit, okay,

872
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: what does our derv mean in French?

873
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: Good?

874
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Then that is where everyone finds out me and Josh

875
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: are so fucking stupid.

876
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: Josh, do you know it? I don't do you know

877
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: any French?

878
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean I took it in like middle school. I

879
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: think for I might get a but I don't know

880
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: any of these words. So if that makes you feel better,

881
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know any of the words in this.

882
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: I'm just finding out that this is a French phrase.

883
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: Or dervs means hand food.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like hands. No, okay, dervs means food.

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Speaker 1: De uvers other things. It means other things.

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Speaker 4: It means outside the work that is not an ordinary

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Speaker 4: set of courses in the meal.

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Speaker 3: Not cool but not cool.

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Speaker 1: Come on, French people, there's no work involved, all right.

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Speaker 4: This is a phrase that Josh likes to use a

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Speaker 4: lot a mooge.

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Speaker 3: B Yeah, we're just gonna say what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what does it translate to?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I think I do know this one, bet Roy, do

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Speaker 2: you want to go pre dinner nibblet?

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Speaker 1: I think I please Bousch's mouth. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: like please your mouth pleaser.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mouth amuser, but I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know it was going to get sexual.

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Speaker 1: Jesus manaja toit.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, okay food manaja ta Oh.

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Speaker 4: How about canna pay?

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Speaker 3: Canna pay a little sweet sweet sweet surprise?

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Speaker 1: Can't pay means no, it's like a tent.

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Speaker 3: It's actually like a tent.

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Speaker 1: Small small food, tiny food.

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Speaker 3: Tiny tent.

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Speaker 4: Rory's closer. It comes from the French word for sofa. Oh,

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Speaker 4: drawing the analogy that the Garnish sits atop the bread

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Speaker 4: as people do with sofa.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was trying to be funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll take the point.

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Speaker 3: They'll take the ticket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, here's a follow up on cannapes. They

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Speaker 4: rose the popularity in the US and the nineteen twenties.

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Speaker 2: Why eighteen twenties people would hide booze in them?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because the depression of people can't

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Speaker 1: afford a big meal, so they have to eat small things.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I would say, Rory's closer. It is because they

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Speaker 4: were served and speakeasies during prohibition to ensure that guests

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Speaker 4: would be like fed throughout the night, and that they

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Speaker 4: were also like small enough to eat while drinking.

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Speaker 2: I don't take that, Josh. I think that's the bank

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Speaker 2: and cash it. I think you won that one.

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Speaker 4: I think we're tied so far. All right, So the

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Speaker 4: French they don't have the market on finger foods. Lots

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Speaker 4: of different cultures have their own versions of snack menus.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a type of you know,

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Speaker 4: snack menu light bites, and you have to tell me

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Speaker 4: what's on that roster on the menu. Okay, So tapas,

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Speaker 4: just anything that you would get served in a Tapa's restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Garlic shrimp.

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Speaker 2: I love Tapa's restaurant, tiny tacos, and I do speak

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Speaker 2: some Spanish. Gamba's io.

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Speaker 3: Is that a thing? Is my answer? And answer? Kammas

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Speaker 3: au ye cvice.

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe, but that's not on my traditional list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I know, cod fritters, bacalao bet steak.

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Speaker 4: Fritters, yes, or crooked cats.

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Speaker 3: Croquette tests.

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Speaker 1: How many do we need to do? Anthobies, harmon yep?

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Speaker 1: Good correct sardines?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What are we doing there? Which can kind of

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Speaker 3: be anything?

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Speaker 4: It's a game.

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Speaker 1: This is also making me hungry, by the way I

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Speaker 1: lunch it now?

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Speaker 3: I want all right cake.

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Speaker 1: I think we dominated that category. We could have kept

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Speaker 1: going for hours.

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Speaker 4: How about a dim sum dim sum meal.

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Speaker 2: Dumplings, shrimp shmi, yeah, like soup dumplings, soup dumplings, pot stickers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dumpling suppose bun?

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Speaker 1: How about meat on a stick?

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Speaker 3: Okay, not as fun to say, but all right?

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Speaker 4: Okay again sexual but okay, kramels after dark? What about

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Speaker 4: me me meal?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's Middle Eastern.

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00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: We got peeda bread, we got some, we got what's

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Speaker 2: the yogurt? What's the one that starts with the D

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Speaker 2: and it's like wrapped doma doma, yeah, dolma doma.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some baclava to cleanse your palate afterwards.

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Speaker 2: I think we're smarter than we give ourselves credit. I

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Speaker 2: think we're more culture than we give ourselves credit.

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Speaker 3: We're not all just Windy's and McDonald's dollar menu guys.

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Speaker 3: We have more than we do.

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Speaker 1: Love that we can.

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Speaker 3: We contain multi ring let like the finer things here

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Speaker 3: and there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there was a dollar mess meal, I

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Speaker 1: would eat that shit.

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Speaker 2: Out, get out of my town. You're right, all right.

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Speaker 2: I think we did. We really did well in those categories.

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Speaker 4: But you were up top at that one. You said

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Speaker 4: you didn't.

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Speaker 1: We brought some heat, we struggled with some French, but

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Speaker 1: after that we got we were rolling.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now to the UK, where nothing makes sense. These

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Speaker 4: small plates have misleading names. Tell me what this dish is?

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Speaker 4: Devil's on horseback?

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Speaker 1: Well, deviled eggs? Is it related to devil eggs? Devil's

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Speaker 1: on horseback?

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Speaker 3: Devils on horses?

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Speaker 2: Hot peppers on top of deviled eggs, on top of

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Speaker 2: deviled eggs on top of actual horse meat.

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Speaker 4: It is actually a hot appetizer of dried fruit stuff

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Speaker 4: with such ingredients such as cheese or nuts, wrapped in

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00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: bacon proscudo or panchetta. Okay, yeah, that sounds amazing like

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Speaker 4: a bacon drop.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of this. I've been taking numerous times.

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00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this.

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00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is sec there's sometimes I just don't

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Speaker 3: trust lane in there. I've said it.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I get most of my stuff from Wikipedia, So

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Speaker 4: go to the So how about scotch woodcock.

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Speaker 3: Is that a scotched egg?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go with that.

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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a creamy, light scrambled eggs on

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Speaker 4: toast that has been spread with anchovy paste or something

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Speaker 4: called gentleman's relish.

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Speaker 3: Maybe mine shouldn't have counted.

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Speaker 2: I didn't give any of those details and.

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00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: Named the wrong thing.

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Gentleman's relish is quite a euphemism for something that's probably catch.

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00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Immediately I was like, what kind

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00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: of food is this?

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00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: This is a this is too sexual of a game. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Welsh rabbit.

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00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: It's not rabbit, definitely not rabbit. It's meat of some kind.

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: It's a meat, corn, beef.

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00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 3: Corn, beef.

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00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: No, sorry, it is the reason why it's called rabbit

1014
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: is because it's a fake rabbit. Rare bit is the

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00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: other way to say it. But it's melted cheese on

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00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: toasted bread.

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Speaker 1: In what way is that a fake rabbit?

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Speaker 4: Because it's a sub institute for meat fakes.

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00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to trust this world. This world has so

1020
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: many lies.

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00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: And what is this? It's fake rabbit.

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00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: It's like why it's melted cheese, so it's like an

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Speaker 2: alternative meat. Now there's no meat at all, and there's

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Speaker 2: no animal products of any kind.

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Speaker 3: It's actually vegan.

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Speaker 1: It also looks nothing like a rabbit. But other than that, great.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's just a cracker with salt on it.

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00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't say it made sense.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Last question, more of a personal one. What's my dog's name?

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Speaker 4: It relates to the quiz, Oh, biscuit?

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Speaker 3: Pop tarts?

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00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh is it biscuit? No, I've got damn pop tarts.

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00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: I've heard you say this'mares waffles.

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00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: Waffles, think broader, think broader category.

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Speaker 3: Nacks.

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Speaker 1: I did remember that. That's a good name.

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00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: That's a good name.

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Speaker 1: What's your dog's name? Or I forget that too? Charlie Charlie,

1040
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: which is my son's name. Great name. That's why we

1041
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: did that. That's why we did that long before. He

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00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: is your dog older than my son? I hold your dog?

1043
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: Is your talk older than three hundred dog years?

1044
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: Older than my son?

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00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Who was Charlie first?

1046
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Who gets to keep the name?

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00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: Fight?

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00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: We did it, did it. We've come to the end

1049
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: of Lane's games.

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00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: Whoa that come from?

1051
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't me?

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Speaker 3: But it was perfect.

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