1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the OTP, presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Healthcare coverage from Farm Bureau Health Plans. It's like an 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: extra set of ads when you need them the most. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee. It's for seventy five years from 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Combined I'm Mike Keith, joined 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: as always like Amy Wells, who has a lot of notes, 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: a lot, has brought out the combineder. It says twenty 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: nineteen NFL there's been a pandemic. Monk. Guys, we haven't 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: been here in a while, and I just grabbed my 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: last combineder and I changed everything inside. I did not 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: change the outside title page. Okay, it is my fault, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: but the Combiner is here and we are here in Indianapolis, 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: and it feels so good. Okay. Quick notes. So the 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Combinder is a spiral notebook with all of Amy's combine notes, restaurants, 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: places to go, articles, what all's in there? Oh, there's 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff in here. It has all of 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: our schedules that we could possibly need, It has lists 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: of participants, it has everything, the key to the city, 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: and it's the greatest pun in sport. It truly is 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: I know. And also in speaking of participants from Titans Radio, 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: Rhet Bryant is here. I am thrilled to be at 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: the Combine this event. We are glad you're here. And 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: most importantly it's the Mayor of combine Land himself, the 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: Venerable Dave McGinnis. Coach Mac, how many dinners have you 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: had so far? You had like four last night? R 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: one dinner and a lot of stops on the road 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: going there and coming back. He goes to see everybody, 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean people make a point and it's like months 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: in advance for Coach Mac at the Combine. He's the 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: mayor of everywhere he is, especially Indian app of, he's 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: the mayor of Combineville. I guess who I'm really happy 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to be with in the combine. Y'all? Well, it is 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: a good thing, and we are kicking off the Combine 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: with our first edition of the OTP. Let's dive right in. 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Who is the big story or what is the biggest 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: story of the twenty twenty two NFL Combine as we begin, 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, Mike and I was talking a little bit 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: about this this morning. Even I think it's the quarterbacks 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: in the National Football League just who are currently with 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: teams and may or may not be with other teams. 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, let's think about all of the drama surrounding 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: National Football League quarterbacks right now. We've got Lamar Jackson, 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: who needs a new contract, is representing himself, has already 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: turned one down from the Ravens. Is he going to 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: take another one? What's he gonna do? We don't know. 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson who needs a new home. Russell Wilson may 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: or may not want a fresh start, Kyler Murray may 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: or may not want a fresh start. God only knows 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: what's going on with Aaron Rodgers, Carson Wentz may or 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: may not still be in Indianapolis. I mean, was that 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: six already already? I mean the amount of just drama 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: around quarterbacks in this league right now is unbelievable to me. 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: And that's such a key position because you can't start 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: building an offense until you know who your main guy 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: is going to be. So I think that there's a 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: lot of questions that need to be answered, not only 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: for the teams that have these guys. I mean, if 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Carson Wentz are available, those are two 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: very different conversations for everybody else in the league. Let 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: me stop you and add to what you're saying. Jimmy Garoppolo, 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Daniel Jones, Yeah, kind of on and on 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: and on. I mean, there's several more that seem to 63 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: be in play and some sort of merry go round 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: one way or the other. And that's not even talking 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: about the stories of the quarterbacks here in Indianapolis, who 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: are certainly, I would think questioned as much as any 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: group that we've seen since we've been coming here. Coach 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Mack at least us you've been coming here obviously thirty 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: five years, so you know better. But no, right, And 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be what I'm going to dive into because 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: this you've never we've never had a draft where there's 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: not been a quintessential quarterback that everybody that needs one 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: wants to move up to get. Are that people that 74 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: are at the top of the draft need and are 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: going this is a slam dunk, this is who we're taking. 76 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: This draft has got more questions starting out because who's 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: going to be taken. Last year we had definitive quarterbacks 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: that were in the top five that we're taking gone 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: and some you know, we're taking higher than others. But 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: people moved up to get quarterbacks and then the edge 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: rushers because these are the two positions in the draft. 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Every years it's who's throwing the ball and who can 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: get to the people throwing the football. Last year it 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: was quarterbacks, and then the edge rushers were pushed down 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: in the draft because of it. This year it's going 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to be the exact opposite Mike. Edge rushers are going 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: to be up at the top of this draft and 88 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are going to be pushed down. It would 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: not shock me if a quarterback did not get taken 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: in the top ten and that and there's a lot 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: that's going to depend on what happens out here, and 92 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: I'll answer some more of that later on. But the 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: quarterback situation this year with incoming quarterbacks is the most 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: jumbled it's been in a long time. Who or what 95 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: is the biggest story of the twenty twenty two NFL 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: combine Rett Bryant, all Right, it's not the hand size 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. Because we've just talked about the quarterbacks 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: class is a little different than it's been in the 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: last few years. I think it's about the speed. I'm 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: always about forty times, and I'm gonna say right now 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: that a defensive back, a cornerback will run the fastest 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: forty time of this combine, not a wide receiver. Calvin Austin, 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: as we well know, two time state champion at Tennessee 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: and track and all different events, is going to be 105 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: one of the fastest guys here. But there's a couple 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: of corners. There's some First of all, it's track teams 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: coming to this thing from Ohio State and Baylor. Kaitlin 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: Barnes is a kid from Baylor who is a two 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: time Texas high school track champion who will flirt with us. 110 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: But there's a guy that I've got my eye on 111 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: from the University of Texas San Antonio, who, by the way, 112 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: had their best year in their history of their football 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: program in one Conference USA. They went to a bowl game. 114 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: They were undefeated for a while. Tereq Woollen, converted wide 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: receiver who's six four two h five and two seasons 116 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: ago converted to cornerback. He has a laser time four 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: three four forty and an eleven and a half foot 118 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: broad jump. He will be a big name in this 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that is probably been projected to be a Day three 120 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: guy that will be into Night two and draft, maybe 121 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: even second round. All right, Coach Mack, Who or what 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: is the biggest story of the twenty twenty two NFL combine. No, 123 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I think it's the quarterbacks, without a doubt. They still 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: haven't got these quarterbacks sorted out. Here's here's the guys. 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: And you went to the Senior Bowl, Mike, and you 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: saw all of these guys in person and in some 127 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: inclement weather. They really never sorted anybody out down there, 128 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: and you saw it Matt Correll and these aren't in 129 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: any certain order. You know, Matt Correll was not there 130 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: because he was ineligible to be there. But you got 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett from pitt You got Sam how from North Carolina, 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder from Cincinnati, Malik Willis from Liberty, and then 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: if you want to get technical, you might put Carson 134 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Strong from Nevada in there. But you know, not really 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: nobody has has stepped out from that group. The guy 136 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to watching here is Malik Willis 137 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: because you know, this guy has got tremendous, tremendous gifts 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: when you watch him on tape with Hugh Freeze's offense there. 139 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: You don't see him throwing a lot in the middle 140 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: of the field. There's not a whole lot of pattern 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: read middle of the field stuff. I mean, he throws 142 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful high moonball takeoff, but that's you Freeze's offense. 143 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: That's what he ran there at Liberty. This guy, though 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: you don't off of the read option. You don't see 145 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: him do anything as far as reading routes and what's 146 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: going on. He's a fabulous athlete. He will knock the 147 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: top off of it here with the physical testing, with 148 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: the running, the jumping. He's got a live arm. You 149 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: saw him in person. You know what kind of army has. 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: But to me, it's sorting out those other quarterbacks because 151 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you've got some quarterback you know. To when Amy started 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: off this podcast talking about quarterbacks questions in this league, 153 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: guys that are there, Well, if somebody needs one or 154 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: if you need one to come in and start being groomed. 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: To me, if Malik Willis go somewhere, he's better set 156 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: to go somewhere and set for a year. Much like 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, which people are comparing him too. And when 158 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: you watch him, I mean, he's got the he's got 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: the most live arm of this group. Is he the 160 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: most accomplished quarterback? Because we all know this and for 161 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: our OTP listeners, there are always two drafts, right, there's 162 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback draft and then there's a positional draft. So 163 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: to me, it's sorting out these quarterbacks. This will be 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: another to do that. This won't be the final call. 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: The school workouts will probably be the final call. And 166 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: the interviews and basically, you know, you can put a 167 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of players on the board when you meet with them, 168 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: but the guy, the quarterbacks are really important to get 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: on a white board to see if they can explain 170 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: what's happening. And then what most teams do, what all 171 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: the team's done that I've been with, is you have 172 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: get you give them some of your playbook and then 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: continue with an interview, and then stop it and go 174 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: back and let them try to regurgitate to you what 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, what they've just been taught. So to me, 176 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: it's starting out the quarterbacks here at this combine. All right, 177 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: So our friend Jim Wyatt Tennessee Titans dot Com at 178 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: Jay White Sports does something fun every week for Titans fans. 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: He goes through and he compiles all of the Titans 180 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: picks in the various mock drafts. So just for fun, 181 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna not saying this is who you're saying 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: the Titans are going to pick, But of all of 183 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the mock drafts that you've seen and the players that 184 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: have been put with the Tennessee Titans at number twenty six, 185 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: which intrigued you the most? Amy you start, I'm already 186 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: switching the rules to this game. I'm not picking a 187 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: specific person, but I will pick a specific position group. Okay, 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: I am very intrigued by the idea of the Titans 189 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: taking a wide receiver spot. Yeah, in that first pick. 190 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: I think that that is something that could have such 191 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: immediate benefit and also a long term benefit for the 192 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans offense. And that is a very exciting thing. 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: And when you look at this tour of the mocks, 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: by the way, go to Tennessee Titans dot com and 195 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: you can find what Jim has put together for you, 196 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: which saves you hours of work reading through every mock draft. 197 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: That's why Jim Watt is your friend. Jim Wyatt is 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: your friend. That was an excellent plug for him. He 199 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: owes you five dollars, now, Okay, something like that. Anyway 200 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: you scroll through it. There are a lot of wide 201 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: receivers who are on this list, and I think it's 202 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: an exciting prospect for the Titans offense. I bet Rhet 203 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: Brian will give me one name. I bet he will 204 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: play the game. Ret Brian plays by the rules, plays 205 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: by the rules, all right. So Jim Wyatt's list of 206 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: all of the mocks, which player who has been put 207 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: with the Titans at number twenty six intrigued you? The 208 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: most Arkansas wide receiver Trailing Burkes six three two twenty five, 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: nine hundred eighty five yards after the catch since twenty 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, explosive plays or catches of twenty plus yards 211 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one long track speed and only faced 212 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: press coverage and just a little over ten percent of 213 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: his routes in the last two seasons at Arkansas. But 214 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: in that ten percent where he faced press coverage, sixty 215 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: three routes four hundred four yards six and a half 216 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: per catch, an average depth of sixteen point two yards, 217 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: and he's big six three two twenty five. Could he 218 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: deployed like a Deebo Samuel in the backfield if you 219 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: needed him to do so, Kirch Mack, Well, Rhett took 220 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: my dude because look, and I don't mind going third. 221 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: That's fine. Do you go third because you're the smartest. Yeah, 222 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: well that is way not true to me. I'm gonna 223 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: go way off and say, Tyler Linderbaum, there, no way 224 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: he's there at twenty six though, is he? Well he 225 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: was on the list, Okay, thank you. Sorry. And his 226 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: thought about edge pass rushers pushing things down too, Yes, man, 227 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: he is a crazy athlete, yes he is. And and 228 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: to me, and again, I don't you know this. We 229 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,359 Speaker 1: know that our offensive line is going to be reconfigured 230 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: right in some shape or fashion. So I'm going to 231 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: go off, way off on a limb and say to me, 232 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: this is this is maybe and and I can't quite 233 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: put him in this category. But you remember when when 234 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Quintin Nelson came out and indeed, you know, jumped up 235 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: and grabbed that dude. So I'll go out on a 236 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: limb and say that because Rhet took my guy, which 237 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: is fine. I ret can do anything he wants, all right. 238 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: So I got two things for you here, coach. First 239 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: of all, let's say the Titans resigned Ben Jones, he 240 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: ain't coming back to be on the bench. He's going 241 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: to be the starting center and he's resigned. Could Tyler 242 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Linderbaum play guard? Yeah, I wouldn't take Tyler Linderbaum if 243 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: Ben Jones is coming back, I would wait. Because if 244 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: we want to talk about strength of this draft, the 245 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: strength of this draft in the guts of the draft, 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: which is which is Day two on to the you know, 247 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: the middle of Day three is offensive lineman, edge rushers. Okay, 248 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers, corners. That's the way that that's the way 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: it comes out this year. The least amount of guys 250 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: I think that will be taken this year when you 251 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: look at it, are interior defensive lineman. Okay, and so anyway, 252 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: all right, so let me go back to wide receivers 253 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: for just a second. Amy touched on the group. Rhett 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: took the Arkansas kid and who's gonna be probably one 255 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: of the stars of everything going on here in Indianapolis 256 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: at twenty six. Do the Titans find somebody in your 257 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: opinion of how this draft will flow, can they find 258 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: somebody that could help this team in twenty twenty two? Absolutely? Okay, 259 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: answers absolutely yes. Does it change your calculus if you're 260 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: John Robinson because you don't have a second round pick 261 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: with what you might do as far as a wide 262 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: receiver at twenty six. Well, let me answer this like this, 263 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a second round pick yet, right, yeah, yet? 264 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: And so it see, because we pick twenty six and 265 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: then if nothing else happens, we pick at ninety. Right. 266 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: That's a big gap. And always when you're going into 267 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the draft and you're putting your setting your board, you 268 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: know that Rhet and I will set our board here 269 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: in the next month. And when you're when you look 270 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: at the draft, you're always looking at gaps. And when 271 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: you start to look at gaps, then you start to 272 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: look at the way your board is set horizontally and vertically. 273 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: So that's a big gap, Mike, And so I'm not 274 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: sure that he will sit there. Again, I don't talk 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: to John Robinson about his plans. He doesn't, you know, 276 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: have to tell me anything, but just looking at that 277 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: gap from twenty six to ninety, I'm not sure he'll 278 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: sit there and do that. Does the quarterback uncertainty help 279 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: him from the standpoint that you may get to twenty six, 280 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: one or two or three of those quarterbacks might still 281 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: be on the board at twenty six. Somebody might come 282 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: up and want them. Well, yes, because I don't think 283 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: the Titans are taking a quarterback at twenty six. No, no, 284 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: absolutely not. They will not. They will not do that. 285 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: But the scenario that you put forth with that, that 286 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: absolutely could happen, and I think he will. He and 287 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: his group in the you know, they'll already start they'll 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: start some of that here, They'll start chumming the waters 289 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: with some of that here. You know, the if I 290 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: had been allowed to play your game. About the guy 291 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: that intrigues me the most, it's a wide receiver. It's 292 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams from Alabama. And Jamison. I know he had 293 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the knee injury in the Georgia game, but man, can 294 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: he run. And guys come back from acls and can 295 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: still run just as fast. And there's no way he 296 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: lasts until twenty six if he doesn't get hurt. Oh, 297 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: absolutely not a chance. I mean this is this is 298 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: a guy who comes from a track family. Rete you're 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: talking about track. I mean he might have run in 300 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Chris Johnson territory. Let me say this about him and 301 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: just in what I hear and talking to people about him, 302 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: because you know, clearly the medical is a huge part 303 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: of what goes on here in Indianapolis. The word I 304 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: get is that medically it's a clean ACL, which means 305 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: that was it. It affected nothing else. You know, there's 306 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: a different ACL. Injuries, some affect some of the other tendings. 307 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Some of you know, it's a clean ACL. And so 308 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: to me, he's not gonna last because, as you say, 309 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: he's got he's got unusual He's not only got unusual speed, 310 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: he's got instant speed. A lot of guys, some guys 311 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: are bill up. This guy's an instant and he's and 312 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: he's an in and out a cut guy. Rhett was 313 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: right though about to speed here. I mean the olive 314 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: a kid from from Ohio state. I mean it's smooth 315 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: as smooth can be. I mean, there's gonna be some 316 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: choices there, but I agree with you, Mike, this guy's 317 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: an elite talent, an elite talent, and with a clean ACL, 318 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: somebody will jump him. But is he a reclamation project 319 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: clean ACL? I don't know. I mean, I'm a doctor. 320 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: You've got a defensive tackle plane right now for Tennessee 321 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Titans that you waited on till nineteen, who never would 322 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: have been there at nineteen, and who ended up playing 323 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: seven or eight games his rookie year right from an ACL. 324 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about a defensive lineman, and you're talking 325 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: about a wide receiver. But just the fact that and 326 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: what Mike is saying is and you know this too, Amy, 327 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: is that what they can do now medically with ACLS, 328 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: not only the surgery, which is all you know, authoscopic, 329 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: but the rehab, the rehab is so far advanced. And 330 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: what are you all right? So I want to bring 331 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: up something Daniel Jeremiah put out that I thought was 332 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: really fascinating because obviously offensive line is going to end 333 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: up being a focus of this offseason for the Tennessee 334 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: Titans due to who's available with free agency. We mentioned 335 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Ben Jones is up. We know David Quessin buries up. 336 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: There's talk about others with the salary cap. So listen 337 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: to this stat offensive line starters for the last five 338 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners. Where have they come from? So we're 339 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: talking about twenty five players, five on each team. Three 340 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: of the twenty five were picked in the first round 341 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: four of the twenty five were picked in the second 342 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: day of the draft, either rounds two or round three. 343 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Seven of the twenty five were picked on Day three. 344 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: One of the twenty five was an undrafted free agent 345 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: coming out of college, and then ten of the twenty 346 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: five were either veteran free agents or obtained by trade. So, 347 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: in essence, when you hear Annual Jeremiah's stat Dave McGinnis, 348 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: what does that tell you that that position right there 349 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: is different than a lot of others For this reason, 350 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: offensive lineman you can look at them individually, but they 351 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: are really a real herd group, a real herd group, 352 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: and you can assemble. If you can assemble guys that 353 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: have three traits. First of all, availability, durability, and then 354 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: the ability to move into a selfless group and buy 355 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in really quick, you can get them from anywhere. And 356 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: most of the offensive lines that you look at through 357 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: and I love this that you brought up with him, 358 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: you don't have to take people in the first round 359 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: as offensive lineman to be able to have a competent 360 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: run offense and a competent pass protection offense. And here's 361 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: the other thing. Offensive lineman take time to develop in 362 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: this league. It's so much different now. Most of them 363 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: are playing from two point stances. In colleges, most of 364 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: them were playing from from staggered stances. There's not very 365 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: there's not very many of them that are past protecting 366 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: for very long because everything that's our po it's coming 367 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: out so quick, and there's very few teams, especially in 368 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: the South, that are running any type of a power 369 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: run game, any type of a power run game. And 370 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: so you know, coming out of the three point stance 371 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: and being able to work up, you know, to to 372 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the second level and those types of things you have 373 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: to learn that. You have to learn that, and so 374 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: there's a period of time to adjust. And so that 375 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: doesn't shock me at all. It really doesn't, because I 376 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: think the days of expecting somebody to come in and 377 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: be ready made, all right, you have some of them. 378 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we had some offensive linemen last year. You know, 379 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: the Tristan Worf's kit, you know that that we like, 380 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: you know our Titans radio draft. You know last year 381 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: he went in and was able to you know, start immediately, 382 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: but he had goals early on. It's just it's a 383 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: position that takes a little bit of time, and a 384 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: lot of it is because of what's going on with 385 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: where they are playing. Not their fault, but they're asked 386 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: to do different things with different techniques. I think if 387 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: you can get some guys in free agency, I mean, 388 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: three of the five starters for the Tennessee Titans last 389 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: year were guys who we got through free agency. Ben Jones, 390 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Roger Saffold, Quessenberry all guys who we were pulling in 391 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: from other places and they found their fit here with 392 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I think it makes free agency a 393 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: lot more exciting. And I think that if the Titans 394 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: are able to add some guys through that portion of 395 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: the off season, it then frees them up in the 396 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: draft to do some other things. If that's the direction 397 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: that John Robinson decides to go, I think this is 398 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: a very interesting, interesting stat just overall, if he decides 399 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: to pick offensive lineman in this draft, though, to put 400 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: the exclamation point on what you're saying, Mike and what 401 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: you're saying Mac in it being a strength of this draft, 402 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty four invitees to this combine, fifty 403 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: eight of them are offensive lineman. The most is twenty thirteen. 404 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: That tells you where we are with a strength in 405 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: this draft and what you can do so you can 406 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: get them on day three. You can You're going to 407 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: be able to get strength on day three. You just 408 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: that that that is where the evaluation comes in, and 409 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: it's not. And boards are going to look different, Mike, 410 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: because somebody that might come in and fit with an 411 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: outside zone scheme like the Titans you know have run, 412 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: or somebody that fits in a power gap scheme. So 413 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: your boards are going to look different. But to both 414 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: of your points, there are going to be players that 415 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: will be viable there. I mean, you were at the 416 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. You saw some of those guys jump up. 417 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: You know that that all of a sudden, you know, 418 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at players from Chattanooga. You're looking at should 419 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: go WHOA, this guy's looks legitimate? Sure, so yeah, good stuff. 420 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: You're talking about Cole Strange from Chattanooga and Trevor Pennig 421 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: from Northern Iowa, who everybody's going crazy about right now. 422 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Projects by everybody's a first round pick. One of the 423 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: names that I think you will hear a lot here 424 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis is Zion Johnson. And Zion Johnson, if you're 425 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: not familiar with him, is from Boston College, one of 426 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: the most interesting stories of the draft. Slightly under sixty 427 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: three three hundred fourteen pounds. Coach Mack would say, he 428 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: has great lowers. If you see his legs, you understand 429 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: how he can drive people. This is a guy who's 430 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: a fascinating story. Began his high school athletics career realistically 431 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: as a golfer, finally went out for football, got no interest, 432 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: ended up at Davidson, took a chance on himself, transferred 433 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: to Boston College, and now he is one of the 434 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: show stoppers of this draft. And let us let you 435 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: hear his interview with us from the twenty twenty two 436 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Reese Is Senior Bowl, and you will understand why Zion 437 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Johnson figures to blow everybody away, not just on the field, 438 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: but in his interview. Zion Johnson one of the top 439 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: offensive lindmen in the draft this year. I've got to 440 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: know You're Davidson, good school, play, nice football, things are 441 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: going well. Takes a lot of guts to walk away 442 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: from there and go to Boston College. What led you 443 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: to do that? I would say a lot of people 444 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: may or may not know this, but Davidson College doesn't 445 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: offer athletic scholarship. So for me, I wanted to try 446 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: to go somewhere, you know, whether it was higher SCS 447 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe if I had the opportunity to 448 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: go to an FPS school to go somewhere, I would 449 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: go on scholarship. But when I went into Portal, you know, 450 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I was actually surprised. I got a lot more interest 451 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: than I thought I would. You know, one of the 452 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: schools I thought about going with South Dakota State, but 453 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, I looked at Boston College. I had the 454 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: connection with the coach there, Phil trout Wine. You know, 455 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: he coached me, he recruited me to Davidson and they're 456 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: a great academic institution. So you know, for me, it 457 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: was a no brainer at that point. You're still a 458 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: Davidson guy at heart too, and a Boston College gap absolutely, absolutely, 459 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: absolutely so when you go to BC, the development and everything, 460 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: where was there a year? Was there a time where 461 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: was there a moment where things really took off where 462 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: you said, hey, I can really really do this. Well. 463 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: My outlook going in is you know, I felt like 464 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people expected me it's you know, red shirt. 465 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: The year developed. But for me, I wanted to go 466 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: in there. I wanted to play, you know, I felt 467 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: like I had that opportunity and wanted to do that. 468 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: So I came in there the spring. You know, I 469 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: had to submit a waiver to play because this was 470 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: before you had one year to transfer you have your eligibility. 471 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: So I went in developed throughout the spring. I think 472 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: I played right tackle, you know, a position I never 473 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: played before. You know, I was on the two deep, 474 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: and once my waiver was accepted, they moved me to 475 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: left guard and I started competing with the left guard. 476 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: There was a fifth year senior, so we rotated all 477 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: throughout the first six games of the season, and then 478 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: I finally got the opportunity to start seven games there. 479 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: What is it about you athletically? It makes you an 480 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: effective offensive alignment. I mean, I think one important thing 481 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: for offensive linement is you need to be able to 482 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: anchor in the past, you need to be able to 483 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: sit on bull rushes and you know, stop penetration. I 484 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: think I do that fairly well playing tackle. I mean, 485 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: you're not the tallest guy in the world, and you 486 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: certainly project in the NFL as an interior guy. How 487 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: much does it help you though? In this whole experience 488 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: that you have played tackle on both sides. Oh, absolutely, 489 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: it helped me a lot. You know, at tackle, you 490 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: have a lot more opportunities to block very athletic defensive 491 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: ends in space, and that's something when you move back inside, 492 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, it really helps you in your pass protection. 493 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: You know, you get that experience being isolated, you know, 494 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: being one on one with good players. So you move 495 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: back inside, you know, it kind of feels more natural, 496 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: passive passion app very naturally. Is that something you've done 497 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: much in your career? Not really, It's something that I've 498 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: been focusing on though. You know, I've done a lot 499 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: of under center work at Boston College. I've played center 500 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: in the spring game pretty much primarily under center, but 501 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: I've been working the gun snaps in the offseason, trying 502 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: to get better at that facet of my game. You 503 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: feel like a center from your mentality, meaning a guy 504 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: that can handle a big guy on top of you 505 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: and run the whole show. Do you like that aspect 506 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: of it? Potentially? I do like that aspect. I mean, 507 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, of course I like playing guard, but also, 508 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: you know, I like to say I'm I'm very a 509 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: mental player, you know, I like the excess and those 510 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: I like learning about defenses in the offense and having 511 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: control of the show, getting to point the IDs and 512 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, say where the protection is going. That's really 513 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: a part of playing center. That's really it's icing. I like, 514 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: what's the most important thing that the NFL team that 515 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: drafts you should know that they are getting in Scion Johnson. Well, 516 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm a reliable guy. I'm someone who 517 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: you know you can count on and know their assignment. Um, 518 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: a guy you can count on to do the right 519 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: things outside of the facility and inside the facility. And 520 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: you know along with that, I'm a guy that's for 521 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: the team. Now, I'm someone who you know, if you 522 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: wanted to play anywhere on the offensive line, I'll play it. 523 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I want to I want to win. 524 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere that with guys that want 525 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: to win, that are hard workers. Coachmack impressive, impressive guysy 526 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: On Johnson. Let me start off with what was impressive 527 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: was your interview with him? And you know when you 528 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: sent me that, I mean, I'm serious, you drew some 529 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: things out of him. He I mean, he's a fascinating 530 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: guy and I mean as as a as a human being. 531 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: When you just and and that was that's the plus 532 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: of you going down there. I mean that that that 533 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: was valuable. I'm very impressive with him. And then when 534 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: you really start to watch him and study him, you 535 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: talk about his lowers and plus he switched positions there 536 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl just to see if he could 537 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: do it. And he not only was able to do it, 538 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: you know, because I watched the Senior Bowl the ESPN 539 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: two and ESPNU did a nice job of televising all 540 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: of those practices, but when you watch him, he got 541 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: better every day at snapping the football and being able 542 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: to come off and new things. So this is a 543 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: fascinating guy. I love the interview and it's it's it 544 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: was very good. All right, Let's hit a couple other 545 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: things before he wrap up this edition of the OTP 546 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. We know the Hall of Fame game on 547 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: August fourth, Jacksonville against Las Vegas. Tony Biselli representing the Jaguars, 548 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: the first ever jag to go into the Pro Football 549 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Two former Raiders, one lesser known as 550 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: a Raider, Richard Seymour, known more as a Patriot, but 551 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: he did play four years in Oakland, and then the 552 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: great Cliff Branch. I couldn't believe Cliff Branch. There are 553 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: always guys you say he's not in the Hall of Fame. 554 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: Cliff Branch fifteen years that Al Davis speed you love, 555 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: could run, run, run. He would make you back up 556 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and continue to back up. He was. He was scary 557 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: and well deserved, all right. So we know that Tampa 558 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Bay is going to play in Germany. They are going 559 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: to give up a home game to play in Germany. 560 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: We don't know their opponent yet. We know that Arizona 561 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: is going to play in Mexico City, and we don't 562 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: know who they're going to play yet. The three London 563 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: home teams we know New Orleans, Jacksonville as per usual, 564 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: and green Bay interesting. Interesting from the standpoint that the 565 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Titans have road games at Jacksonville as they always do, 566 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: so that game could be moved to London theoretically, but 567 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Rhett tennessee Green Bay in London makes a lot of 568 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: sense from the standpoint that the Packers are giving up 569 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: their ninth home game next year in terms of regular 570 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: season because the NFE has the night home game in 571 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: the rotation. They are giving that up, but there's a 572 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: lot of speculation that Tennessee might be on that list 573 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: to play in London again. Mike Rabel, Matt Lafleur. We 574 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: know the history there and if this is later in 575 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: the year, that's better for all of us because one 576 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: of Green Bay in December. But yeah, that would that 577 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: would be awesome. Now, question for you. All three of 578 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: those London games. Are they at Tottenham Hotspur? I think 579 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: there are two of them at todd Okay, yep, the 580 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay thing. I think they're playing the Chiefs. Mike, really, 581 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: I think so interesting. I don't know any German words 582 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: or I would say something in German. I would love 583 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: to have gotten that game. Well, you still might at 584 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: some point, Mike game, I think that this is here 585 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: to be ready to go back to London. I am 586 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: ready to go to London. I had a great time 587 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: when we went. It was one of the coolest experiences 588 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: I've ever had, just as a human. I mean the 589 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: amount of people we were able to meet, the things 590 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: that we were able to do, Holy smokes, it was 591 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: so much fun. I would love to go back, and 592 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: I would make a vacation out of it. I might 593 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: stay for a while. Cheerio, folks, No you won't. You've 594 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: got to come back and do all our shows and 595 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: our podcast. You have two podcasts, you have two radio 596 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: tres virtual. It's twenty twenty two. I'm doing obligations, obligations, sad. 597 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's going to wrap up this edition 598 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: of the OTP. And by the way, can we request 599 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: OTP cues from fans? Oh, Mike, I would love that. Yes, 600 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: send it. Oh, we're here in Indian name. Yes, send 601 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: in your combine otpques Tennessee Titans dot com slash otp q, 602 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: or you can just tweet them at titans amy A 603 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: M I E. I will receive them and we'll put 604 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: them together and we'll do a little combine. Are you 605 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: going to tweet out a picture of the combinder so 606 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: the ot people can see? Yeah, but I might photoshop 607 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: it to have the correct date. This is embarrassed. Why 608 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: do not mark it out? Sharpe thro sharpie through it. 609 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing. And I just grabbed the binder 610 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, this is it, let's go. 611 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: And then I ran out of times. This idea that 612 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: you just put twenty nineteen put plus three. That's a 613 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: great idea. Oh well, it's still functional all right. So 614 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: at Titans Amy is how you follow Amy Wells again? 615 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: How do you send in an otpq Tennessee Titans dot 616 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: com slash otpq reet Brian? How do people follow you 617 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: on the Twitter machine? At Rhett b Tennessee. And we 618 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: remind you that our program, the Official Titans Podcast, is 619 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: presented by our friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans. Turn 620 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: to the folks who've been in the game since nineteen 621 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: forty seven, that's seventy five years. Farm Bureau Health Plans 622 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: offers the great healthcare coverage you need with a price 623 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: tag you can afford. Coach Mack, how many lunches and 624 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: dinners are you having today at the Combine? Well, I'll 625 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: have several meetups, several meetups. How many interviews are you 626 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: doing here? Yes, sir, probably five or six, and I 627 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: got a couple on the phone. He's a very busy man. 628 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: He's a very busy man. He is the mayor of 629 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the Combine. Just bring us some like a little doggie 630 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: bag from these dinner you want me to go to 631 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: start steak and shake and bring you lunch, Steak and 632 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Jake will happen. Yeah, a couple of times. It will 633 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: happen to day a couple of times, no question about it. 634 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: For coach Dave McGinnis, for Rhett Bryan, for Amy Wells, 635 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: for Ashley Farell, and for Jack Mumbers. I'm Mike Keith 636 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: from the Combine in Indianapolis. This is your old tea 637 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Big Show where the legends go. 638 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: Everbody knows it's our house, fighting though Tennessee. Making it 639 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: to read greatness is meant to be