WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Jim Nantz

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Dave Pass ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play

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<v Speaker 1>by play announcer. Our guest this week is the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Nance, who's been with CBS since nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>He's called the Final Four since nineteen ninety one, been

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the NFL going back to ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and called play by play as the lead voice since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four. Jim will talk with us about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to be his final Final Four in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twenty three. We'll talk about the timing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll also discuss when he hopes to finish as

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of the Masters. This will be his thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth consecutive year calling the golf at Augusta coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three, I would like to be there

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<v Speaker 1>for the hundredth playing of the Masters, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>reevaluate because I'm only going to be seventy six. Lookno,

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<v Speaker 1>many of our friends are still working at the stages

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<v Speaker 1>later than that, like Al Michaels and on and on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. But that's the goal. How much longer will

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<v Speaker 1>he continue to call the NFL. We'll talk with Jim

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We'll get his thoughts on the Arizona Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll also get Jim's impression of Frank Kelly En

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<v Speaker 1>notes impression of Jim and Tony Romo. In the booth,

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<v Speaker 1>talk with the voice of CBS Sports and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the all time great guys in this business, Jim nance. Well, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's it's an honor to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one of my favorites. You're one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>in our business of what you do, and you're such

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<v Speaker 1>a great guy. I'll never forget. Well. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I met you for the first time when I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing the Final four for NCAA International back in It

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the two Florida Championships two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And then I'm sitting at a restaurant in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, delf Friscoes with my wife, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the waitress comes over and says, hey, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this gentleman next to you here would like to buy

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<v Speaker 1>you guys a drink. I look over and it's you,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then you come over and hang out and

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<v Speaker 1>we're chatting it up for a while. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the fact. I remember that like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was two and ten. I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Big East Tournament in New York and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what you were there for. Maybe you were just

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<v Speaker 1>out to dinner with your bride. But I'll never forget that. Jim, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't think you would actually remember that day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember it vividly. We were neighboring Booths, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a real thrill to meet you. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have the gift and of being in the same industry,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the childhood dream for each of us. And

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<v Speaker 1>we also share, you know, not only a love of

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball, which you are absolutely exceptional at fall in

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<v Speaker 1>those games, I like you are with everything, but I

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<v Speaker 1>get to see a lot of your work on college

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<v Speaker 1>hoops when you're doing your Cardinals work during the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always on at the same time, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to enjoy it. But Pat McGrath, famous stats guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I worked with you a ton and I've

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<v Speaker 1>had Pat by my side or I've been by his

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<v Speaker 1>side more like it, for thirty something years on college hoops.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of people out there, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear things in the industry, and everybody admiers and has

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<v Speaker 1>great respect for who you are not only is a broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly what you like off the air. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Yeah, Pat has been He's been with

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<v Speaker 1>you probably twice as long as he's been with me.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I think Doug Collins, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was you, I think it was Doug Collins that

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<v Speaker 1>gave him the nickname Pat the Rat or PTR for short.

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<v Speaker 1>But Pat's a great statistician. He's as good as there is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Pat the Rat the nickname belongs to Hankstram

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<v Speaker 1>That okay. He and Hank were close and I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Hank years and years ago, and one time I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the air on him BBS and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on the crew and our great stats guy, Pat

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<v Speaker 1>the Rat McGrath. Well, about two days later, Pat called

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<v Speaker 1>sheepishly and said, would you do me a favor? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? He said, Please don't ever call me

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<v Speaker 1>that on the air again. I don't mind off the air,

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<v Speaker 1>but my mom was watching and she was so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he call you the rat? And she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and I said, never again, never again. On

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<v Speaker 1>the air, He's just Pat McGrath. But yeah, optional guy, Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought somebody needs to do and I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to pitch at ESPN. Somebody needs to do a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty for thirty, a documentary on the life of the statisticians,

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<v Speaker 1>because next to the players, the coaches, the broadcasters, no

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<v Speaker 1>one has a better seat for the biggest events. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken. Pat McGrath has done thirty Final

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<v Speaker 1>fours and twenty five to thirty Super Bowls. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty one Final fours and the super Bowl count

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<v Speaker 1>is up there, really high all those years with the

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<v Speaker 1>CBS Radio network in Westwood One, And that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating thing to see because these guys kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they come in with no fanfare. You're right, they're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right at mid court or the fifty yard line and

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<v Speaker 1>they have this incredible access and the plus the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they can crunch numbers and how they just go

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<v Speaker 1>about the mechanics of executing their jobs. It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an interesting group. They all know one another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all very close knit. The stats guy from one

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<v Speaker 1>crew knows stat guy from another. You know, Al Michael's

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<v Speaker 1>stats guy knows my stats guy, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a good idea. I gotta get it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be an interesting doc just the idio different

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<v Speaker 1>idiosyncrasies for these guys too, right, there's some different characters

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah. I have a guy on football, Ethan Cooperson,

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<v Speaker 1>who he walks into the booth like he did yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in Tampa and it might be fifteen minutes before kickoff. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a lot of good prep work that he's

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<v Speaker 1>forwarded than me during the week. But where's he been?

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<v Speaker 1>How did he get here? He just kind of comes in, leaves, disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even know he's there. But you get in

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<v Speaker 1>the heat of the battle. This guy can come up

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<v Speaker 1>with things like they all can, like Pat can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing. Well, Pat will be with you for the

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<v Speaker 1>Final Four in twenty twenty three, which, as was reported

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, will be your last with CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just as Jim, what went into that decision? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why the timing for you to turn that over to

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Eagle after this upcoming Final Four? Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>time because my chest have been on what I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to call the Golden Hamster wheel for thirty seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a part of the NCAA Tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, in the PGA Tour and in as well

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<v Speaker 1>as football, and there was really not an offseason for me.

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<v Speaker 1>One season ends, the next one begins. Sometimes like the

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<v Speaker 1>very next week, you go from the Final Four in

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<v Speaker 1>the championship game and I'm in Augusta the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's thrilling, it's exciting, it's exhausting too, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get past the age of sixty. Has started doing

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<v Speaker 1>all this when I was twenty six for CBS, so

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<v Speaker 1>I've been at it for more than half my life

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<v Speaker 1>and I needed to get some time back. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>two young kids and an older daughter, but my little

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<v Speaker 1>ones are six and eight, and I just cannot go

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<v Speaker 1>through another ten years of basically Daddy only home five

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<v Speaker 1>or six weeks a year or weekends a year. And

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<v Speaker 1>it started there. I've known for a long time that

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<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be the sport that would have to

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<v Speaker 1>come off the schedule, but it would still leave me

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<v Speaker 1>with a full NFL schedule with Tony Romo for many

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<v Speaker 1>years to comber both sign up for a long long

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<v Speaker 1>time and anchoring the golf, so I still got forty

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<v Speaker 1>weeks a year. It's just that five or six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>removed what my basketball obligations were will make a profound difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And it came up on a year too, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Final Four is in Houston, which was my gateway city

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<v Speaker 1>to the industry coming out of the University of Houston

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<v Speaker 1>and being around the basketball program there and being the

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<v Speaker 1>public address announcer in the embryonic stages of Phi Slam

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<v Speaker 1>a jama That's when I got my start with that

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team, and it just felt right to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to Houston and closed down baskets where it all started

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I thought it might have been because you

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't take Bill Raftery anymore, not on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>but after the game. I worked with Bill when he

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<v Speaker 1>was at ESPN, and like, if you left dinner before

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<v Speaker 1>two in the morning, like you got an evil look.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there were sometimes if you did leave, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be going to the airport for six am flight and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just walking in. So I thought maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>because of raff I want your audience to know this

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<v Speaker 1>is not embellished at all. Okay, this is so true.

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<v Speaker 1>Raft is such a treasure and he was my first

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<v Speaker 1>basketball partner, by the way, Dave. Back in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six and SA tournaments, my first tournament game I

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<v Speaker 1>ever called was Duke against Old Dominion in Greensboro, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six. So now all these years later, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to my final tournament as a broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a site at Greensboro the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of the of this year's tournament, and you know Duke

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<v Speaker 1>and North Carolina will an all likelihood be sent there,

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<v Speaker 1>which means will be sent there. So it all comes

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<v Speaker 1>full circle. You know. I got to start with I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to end with raft and the Great Grant Hill

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<v Speaker 1>was just such a gym, such a wonderful guy and

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcaster that has really seized it and has just

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<v Speaker 1>done super with it and will continue for years. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love my teammates and I'm going to miss that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Tracy Wilson. I gonna miss that part

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<v Speaker 1>of it more than anything. But I do feel really

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<v Speaker 1>great about I and getting a chance to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He deserves to have that chance. Here's a stat for it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is typical of Pat to come up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I transitioned from being the host of the

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<v Speaker 1>Final four to calling the lead INCA a tournament package,

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<v Speaker 1>Brent Musburger was doing the games, and Brent was a

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<v Speaker 1>great mentor and friends, and I couldn't believe I was

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<v Speaker 1>in his company the first six years of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>But bent Brent called six final fours in championship six

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<v Speaker 1>he tied the record that belongs to Dick invert so

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<v Speaker 1>Wrent and Dick that sticks championships each This coming tournament

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<v Speaker 1>will be my thirty seconds. So it's been a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I don't want to get greedy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long time, and I've thought for several

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<v Speaker 1>years that maybe it was time to start scaling back

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit and just reduce it to NFL

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<v Speaker 1>at golf. But with Houston out there off twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>this was years ago when they got they got the

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<v Speaker 1>nod for the twenty three Final four. I told CBS

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<v Speaker 1>even then that will be my last, so it came

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<v Speaker 1>as no surprise to them, and just now it's official. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you will obviously be missed. But if there's anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>is not only talented, but can handle Raftree and also

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<v Speaker 1>just be a great ambassador for CBS and for college

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<v Speaker 1>basketball to follow in your footsteps, it's it's Iron because

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<v Speaker 1>he's so good and he's such a great guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jim about the Masters. I think this is thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>in a row for you. He talked about the run

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<v Speaker 1>with college basketball, but longer on the Masters, how much

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<v Speaker 1>longer do you think you'll go why would you ever

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<v Speaker 1>stop with the Masters. I mean, that's well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to, but takes its course. But thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I have one more Masters than I do

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA tournaments because in the pandemic they canceled the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're the NCAA tournament, so they're off by one.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this will be thirty eight coming up at

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<v Speaker 1>a custom and long ago, Dave, I'm talking nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 1>when Jack Nicholas won that historic sixth Green jacket. I

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<v Speaker 1>was making my way back to the compound when Ken ventory,

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<v Speaker 1>the legendary commentator on Hall of Fame golfer, pulled up

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<v Speaker 1>in a golf cart and he said, where are you going,

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<v Speaker 1>young man? I said, I'm walking back to the compound. Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, jump in, Jimmy, I'll give you a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I was honored to be riding with him. This was

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<v Speaker 1>my first Masters show, and I'd watched Ken my whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>not realizing one day we'd be in the eighteen tower

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<v Speaker 1>together for a long long time and he became a

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<v Speaker 1>huge mentor of mine. But anybody, Ken says, how old

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<v Speaker 1>are your son? And I said him twenty six? He said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make a prediction for you right now. One

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<v Speaker 1>day you're going to be the first golfer to ever

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast this event fifty times. I thought, Wow, that's profound.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe he thinks I have that kind of ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus he called me Jimmy, which my mom, my, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends all call me because my dad was jim

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<v Speaker 1>I was Jimmy still ams and my family members and

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<v Speaker 1>close friends. Anyway, he said, you'll be the first to

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<v Speaker 1>ever do fifty. But I'll tell you one thing, Son,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll never live to see a day greater than this.

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<v Speaker 1>Around AUGUSTA, so I had all these highs and lows,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one little movie scene I had the high

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<v Speaker 1>of Ken Ventrury calls me, Jimmy calls me Son, is

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<v Speaker 1>very father figurish. He thinks I have a modicum of

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be able to make this outlandish prediction. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do this for fifty fifty years. And anyway, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it years later, Dave, and he'd really in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways to define my career. He set up

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted my career to be like. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do what Conventuri recognized that day. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do fifty and I used to say that

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<v Speaker 1>too to close associates until a few years later, I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually being introduced. As bizarre as this sounds, Bib

0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Venturi and Jack Whittaker and an event at Bellair Country

0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Club They've jointly presented me, and I got up and

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<v Speaker 1>told this story that I just told you about fifty masters.

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<v Speaker 1>We retired that night after the speech over at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel bel Air bar, and Jack Whittaker looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>talk about an idol for me. He said, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>what is set up there, Jimmy about fifty masters. I said, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>does sound crazy. He says, no, not at all, but

0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to adjust the count. I said, why is that, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, you need to do fifty one. I said, well, why,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, because if you do it, the math on it,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty first masters for you will be the one

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<v Speaker 1>hundredth playing of the Masters tournament. He said, you'll want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there for that, but I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for the masters that you be there for it too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tweaked it and that became the goal. Is

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<v Speaker 1>weird as that number sounds, it's fifty one that would

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<v Speaker 1>take me to twenty thirty six. God willing that I

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<v Speaker 1>get that chance. The help holds up and everybody still

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<v Speaker 1>wants me to do it. Let me add that I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be there for the hundredth playing of

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, and then we'll reevaluate because I'm only going

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<v Speaker 1>to be seventy six. Loo kind how many of our

0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.640
<v Speaker 1>friends are still working at the stages later than that,

0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like al Michaels and on and on and on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the goal, fifty one Masters. If I can get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to be greedy about it, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be that would mean a lot to me in

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. Well, I work with Hugh by Brown on NBA.

0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.400
<v Speaker 1>He's eighty nine and he's still going strong. Jim you

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<v Speaker 1>can do one hundred and fifteen Masters or Jimmy? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I call you Jimmy now? The rest I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize everybody that you're you're friends with, and I would

0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:06.880
<v Speaker 1>hope that we can call each other friends. I'm gonna

0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.600
<v Speaker 1>call you Jimmy. Um. But the fact that that would

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<v Speaker 1>be you would have at that point have done more

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<v Speaker 1>than half of the Masters. I mean, you'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>synonymous and I think you already are because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when people think of the masters, they they they hear

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<v Speaker 1>your voice, they hear the music and then your voice

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Um, Hello friends. I'm sure you've been asked

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<v Speaker 1>that so many times. When when did that start? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the When was the first time you used it?

0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And wow, uh he say, my dog, he heard hello

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<v Speaker 1>friends right on from my family protector. They're getting all

0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>wound up. The term hello friends was never intended to

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<v Speaker 1>be anything that had lasting power or I would be

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<v Speaker 1>associated with. It was purely the circumstance of me trying

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with something that my father would know

0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that I was thinking of him when I when I

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.159
<v Speaker 1>said goodbye to him at his bedside in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two. It's only been around since O two. My

0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>father was fighting Alzheimer's disease and the mind was slipping

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<v Speaker 1>by the day, and I would play these little tricks

0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and word games with him. And as I left his

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<v Speaker 1>side in Houston, I said, Dad, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come on the air this weekend. I'm gonna say your

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<v Speaker 1>name because my name is his name, and I'm gonna

0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.119
<v Speaker 1>say hello friends. And that's for you because you have

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing but friends. So when you'd see me on camera,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at that very moment, I'm thinking to you, Okay,

0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you got it. I got it. Well. I walked out

0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of the room realized there's probably a pretty good chance

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.359
<v Speaker 1>he had already forgotten it badly. But I carried that

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart and from a golf event and Hazel

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 1>team in Minnesota, I open up the third round coverage

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<v Speaker 1>with a hello, friends, Jim nance here, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, the show ends. I get a

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 1>call from a very close friend of mine and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you say all friends on the here. What

0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 1>was that about. I said, I passed them along a

0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>message to my dad. He said, well, that sounds like you.

0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.240
<v Speaker 1>You ought to do that all the time. So I

0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 1>did it for the fourth round, the following weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>every weekend thereafter. And you know, my dad's been gone

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<v Speaker 1>since oh eight days, has been gone a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But for that very bleeding little moment, as I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the air and trying to get get us started, I

0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.240
<v Speaker 1>look into that lens that gives us absolutely no feedback.

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>As you know, you look into that dark camera lens

0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and you don't think about the millions of people on

0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the other side. But I look at it and I

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<v Speaker 1>think of him. For I just it flashes in my

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<v Speaker 1>head every time yesterday, and for me it's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>comforting moment. I feel like he's right with me and

0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.919
<v Speaker 1>it calms me. That makes sense. I think the public

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>would be surprised that you get on some of these shows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe every show, but the bigger ones, and you do

0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have those butterflies, at least I do, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. Anxiety you feel feeling as a broadcaster

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>is just when you're coming on the air, just going

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.240
<v Speaker 1>through the blocking and tackling of getting the show started,

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 1>particularly when they come to me on camera. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like the first t Jitters, but you know, maybe

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 1>a modified version of that. But everybody's so worked up,

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you've been preparing all week and you just kind of

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.399
<v Speaker 1>want to get on the air cleanly. And it made

0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.359
<v Speaker 1>me better in that moment because it distracts me and

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it makes me think of my hero, my dad, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's all about. It's not any cheesy saying

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to try to create some sort of reaction. It was

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just born out of a son trying to pass along

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a message that is that's awesome, Jim. That is like, man,

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I had not heard that story, and I'm pretty sure

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>most people out there that are listening to us probably

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 1>if not. That is incredibly inspirational, just another reason to

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<v Speaker 1>watch you. And I think the best broadcasters are those

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that connect with the audience. And I mean you had

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that connection. That's why you're still doing what you're doing,

0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, forty years into it with CBS, is because

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of how likable you are. And I think a lot

0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 1>of times when you say that, I think you know,

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the audience looks at you as their friend. So when

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>you say hello, friends, it's it's mutual and it's just

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>one more reason to be in love with Jim. Nance Well,

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you know. I walked through airports and it's all

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of it is truly a little surreal. And again, I

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>know I'm saying things that you can relate to. But

0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.040
<v Speaker 1>when we wanted to get into this business, we got

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>into this business because we wanted to tell stories. We

0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be at these big events and be the

0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 1>narrator of these things that we're going to unfold. It

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about being on television or radio or people knowing

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you or having a following, or people asking for a

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>picture or your autograph. I've never even thought about any

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff that would be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's still after thirty some odd years, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a little strange to get used to that people actually

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:31.120
<v Speaker 1>not everyone obviously, but people actually know you and they

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like they know you. And I can be walking

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 1>through an airport and I can just get that shout

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>out stadiums all with my hello friend, Hey friends, you know,

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of go around with it and it's a connection point.

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 1>But I hear it all the time, and it still

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>catches me a little off guard, you know, dealing with

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>some of the recognition, I guess is the word It

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>comes with it the people. You go perform it, and

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.199
<v Speaker 1>you go you go do your shows, and you prepare

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>all week, and you try to do service to the

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:08.919
<v Speaker 1>game and make sure the game is the thing and

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you're not the thing. And then you step out of

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 1>it and you realize people like listen to you and

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they do feel like they have a relationship with you.

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm honored that people feel that way, but I'm just saying,

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter how long you do it, it's still

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like I'm still the kid that never

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>even thought about that being even any part of my life.

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't know that anybody would know who I was.

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I just want to be a storyteller. So the hello

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>friends thing has become a way that people approach me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hear it all the time, and it's lovely,

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's nice, it's again. It all traces back to Done

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<v Speaker 1>trying to trying to stay connected with his dad because

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<v Speaker 1>his dad's mind was deteriorating. You talked about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not being bigger than the show, and you never are.

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you're as good as anybody at that.

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And that coincides with getting the best out of your

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner, which is big part of our job is

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to get the best out of the analyst. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I know you get credit, but I

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think you get enough credit for the job you

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>do with Tony Romo and allowing Tony to be Tony

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and getting the best out of him. If you did

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>things differently, and maybe you know, tried to be the show,

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Tony wouldn't get to do what he does. And did

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>you know that you did a mock broadcast of the

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals Cowboys Pro Football Hall of Fame a handful of

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Did you know right away that Tony would

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you get the buzz that he gets. What was the

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>process like of bringing him along into the booth? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>That was That was an amazing evening. We were stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner of an end zone that was like

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>forty yards back of the corner of the end zone,

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>a little temporary well al Michaels. They showed it on

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the broadcast. They called it a deer stand. But that

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was one of eight games that we actually practiced. Three

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of them were on site, the one in Akron, one

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, one in Oakland. Five were in a studio

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>And this happened from mid May until mid August. We

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>would do these rehearsal practice games. I gotta tell you, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the first time we did a practice game,

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>it was on May seventeen, twenty seventeen, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to go on the air right there and

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the best for that show. For that

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsal game. His instincts were so good and his enthusiasm

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and excitement were just off the charts. You're right, I mean,

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we are trying I believe it's one of our primary responsibilities,

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>if it's not number one, to be the ultimate set

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>up guy in point guard for your analysts. Look, nobody

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>does it better than you. With Bill Walton, it's to me,

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's I don't have a choice, Jim. I don't have

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a choice, Jim. He just talks anyway. So I kind

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of left left and that's PA's awesome pairing. Um, but

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I I just I just I just think the world

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of Tony and I don't really put any boundaries. This

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>is what you need to do, this is what I

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>need to do. It's not a dance step. It's two

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>guys watching a game, and Tony has this ability to

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>break it down faster than anyone I've ever seen. So

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.959
<v Speaker 1>this is year six. We've gotten here rather quickly, but

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it has been it's been just a fantastic ride. And

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'm hoping for somewhere around another dozen years.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 1>That would make me happy. That would be about right.

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>A few more and we'll let you go, Jim. Um,

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate the time. Um. Tom Brady, whenever

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>he decides retires going to go in the booth. I'm

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>curious because obviously you spent a lot of time with

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Tom over the years. How you think he'll be as

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a broadcaster. Are there any other active NFL players? Because

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>part of our job is we meet with coaches and

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>players each week leading into the game that we're calling,

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>regardless of the sport. Is there anybody you think that's

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>an active player, maybe even somebody that is off the radar,

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a younger guy that you think could do this

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>if he wanted to. Well, the first guy that comes

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to mind for me is not a player, but a coach,

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and that would be Mike Comlin. I think Mike has

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the gift of expression like no one I've ever heard

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>in football before. And by that I mean he says

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>things a turn of a phrase that has I've never

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>heard it before. It's the exact opposite of cliche. Everything

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he says is new and fresh. His phraseology is it's incredible.

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, and he does it off a cuff.

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>If you watch one of his press conferences and hear

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and break down the game or what's going on with

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the team, his material is. His mind works really quickly.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>He's a brilliant guy, and I think if he ever

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it. I think he could be I

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>just think. I just think he could be exceptional. Now

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>we know this abount Tom. When Tom decides to do it,

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>he's got the contract and you know it's all set

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>up to go to Fox. But he will work as

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>hard as anybody ever on trying to be prepared for

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>these games. It's just the way he rolls, and he

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>will go through. I would think one of those summers,

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>like what we did with Tony, he'll do a lot

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of practice games. There'll be a lot of things that

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't realize that are a part of it. By that,

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean meetings with the players, the amount of data

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that comes to you now, I mean, there's so many

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>sources of information out it's almost information overload. But Tom

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>will one all of that. So I think he'll be

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>very good at it whenever that time comes. Have you

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>heard Frank Caliendo's impressions of you and Tony? By the way,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>because Frank lives here and Phoenix, he actually lives. I'm

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>doing this right now from the Cardinal's facility, and without

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>giving Frank's address away, he's close by. He came in

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>studio last year and we had him call highlights of

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Games. It was actually against the Rams and went

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams, and I would stop him in mid

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>sentence and you know, throwout another name and he would

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have to adjust quickly on the fly and change the impression.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Can we do Nance and Roma on one of these?

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Jim's gonna coach Jim. What's going on here? This is

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a great read. But Kyler paris coming in here. It's

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be tone is here we go jump Tony? He

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>did you know, Tony? And you have you? Have you

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>heard those from Frank? I've not only heard it, I

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>hear about them all the time. And it was really

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>at such a high level and frequency. It might have

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>been two years ago that I actually sought him out

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and called him and thanked him. I said, I'm just

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>getting so much feedback out of more than anything, I

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>just want to let him know. I thought it was hilarious.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But he's got Tony down. It's a dead ringer. And

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he said that my voice was a little harder to replicate,

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but he does this shrieking high pitch here. I'll give

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it to you, Tony. And you got me laughing just

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. What a talent. I just I wanted

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to see Franklin person. We almost cross paths here recently

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for one of his shows and in Nashville, but that

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that's still become great regard for him. I'm gonna let

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>him know. I'm gonna text him when we're done and

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>let him know that you just because I don't know

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that he's heard your impression of yourself. Hey, I'm his

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>number one fan. You please let him know. Um, all right,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>two more. Sorry didn't to keep you this long. I

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>know you get other things to do. Yeah, we're good.

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Thoughts on the Cardinals. I know that you were working

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>opposite the Cardinals game on Sunday and the loss to Seattle.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You had the Cardinals Week one against Kansas City. What

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on what's going on here with Arizona. Well,

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>we saw a lot of what the season has been

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so far that very first week. It it just didn't

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>seem as though the Cardinals were hitting on all cylinders.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>It just seems like something's amiss. I can't put my

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>finger on it. But it's foreign to all the Cardinals

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>faithful because they're used to this team jumping out of

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the gates and then struggling on the back half of

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the year. You know, maybe there's still time. I mean,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's still time. But maybe they're gonna maybe

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna streak into positively streak into the postseason. It'll

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>take a lot of work now, I mean that loss

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to Seattle was a crusher for them. They go three

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>games behind them plus the dead essentially four games back.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>There's the there's I don't I just don't know. Everybody

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>battles injuries. I get that, and then again, they didn't

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>get d Hop back until a couple of weeks ago,

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and Connor has been banged up. But it's just right now.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a strange year in the NFL. It's all upside down.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with it. Every week. We can't get a

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>matchup for our a game where we have two teams

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>with a winning record. In fact, this week we have

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville at Kansas City as our number one game. Never

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>would have guessed that Jacksonville at three and six at

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Arrowhead and that this will make now eight out of

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>nine weeks for us we've had a matchup with at

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.479
<v Speaker 1>least one of the two teams with a losing record,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not even a five hundred record. One of the two

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>with the least a losing record yesterday, Rams Bucks last

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>two Super Bowl champs both with losing records. So you know,

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you start thinking about where the Cardinals are. The only

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>solace you can find is you can look at where

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay is, what Tampa season been like. I mean,

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just right through the league. It's the Rams in

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>This's just everywhere you turn is like all of a sudden,

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like the league shut down for three years and

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>nobody has any more positive momentum off of what they

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>did the year before. And the older quarterbacks. That's not

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>your issue there in Arizona, but the older quarterbacks, it's

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a struggle. It's just there's there's just not a happy

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>story there to be found. This last question, maybe this

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is a proper transition going from talking about the Cardinals

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to wine, just given how it's been a struggle and

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>very stressful for a lot of people around here. The

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>calls transition your wine label, your winery, the calling I've

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>had the cab it was a few years ago. It

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was very very good. Tell me the genesis of this

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and how involved you are. Very involved. I own fifty

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>percent of the venture with my friend and business partner

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Peter Deutsch. This is something that I kind of had

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>worked on, not talking about full time worked on it,

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>but for a good ten years I was trying to

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to get into that space and talk

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to many people in the industry and visited wineries and

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.719
<v Speaker 1>vineyards and ventnors and try to get a handle on

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>how that could possibly come about and have a label.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>One day and lo and behold, I ran across Peter

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>just serendipity at a restaurant in Connecticut, told him as

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>my dream to somehow be involved in this, and I

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.719
<v Speaker 1>would be very involved, and we decided to partner up together.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So we're in year eleven now, Dave. We're in five

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand restaurants nationally. We have great, great following in Arizona

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>by the Way of Wine and all their stores and

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>many restaurants. We're in all fifty states. And wine's a

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>finicky thing, you know. It's not going to be about

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>your success, about who owns it. It's going to be

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>about what's inside the bottle. It has to be good.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And we are basically the gms, the owners or the coaches,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>however you want to look at it. I would say

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>our winemakers are our coaches. We're the gms, and that

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>means we got to go out and get the best

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>sourcing because we don't own the dirt, we don't own

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a vineyard, but we do source and buy grapes or

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>we take if you will, leases out on blocks of

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>vines at some of the great wineries in our country,

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's really helped put us where we are today.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>That is, by the way, a very high percentage of

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the wine business today is sourcing, what we call it

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>sourcing where you don't own the property, but you source

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>your fruit. And we've had partners there that has been

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>legendary vineyards like Dutton Ranch. And what happened now is

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we've had sixty somewhere approaching sixty five ninety plus point

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>rated wines in ten years. That's and they're all spread

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>across that Cab you mentioned, you know, the Wire and Chardonay.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like people can say, oh, that's a

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Chardonnay brand, that's a Cab brand, you know brand. We

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>like the consistency and we feel like we've kind of

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>at this point not getting ahead of ourselves, but we

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like the way we've built it. We want it to

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>be multi generational Someday, his kids, Peter's kids, my kids

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>will own it, and I believe it's going to be

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>around for a long, long time. The next time you

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and I have a conversation, let's make sure that there

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is a bottle of the Calling open as we assip

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and chat about life and broadcasting and just kind of

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like we did back because some fifteen years ago when

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you were kind enough to send over or drinking. Then

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>come spend some time with my wife and I in

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>New York. It's long overdue to do it again. And

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I will be in your neighborhood the weekend of the

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Not for the Big Game, we don't have

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it until next year in Vegas, but we'll be there

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>for the waste management Phoenix open. It's going to be

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.959
<v Speaker 1>some time in Arizona. If you're not too busy, we'll

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>have a chance to maybe get together and sip on

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 1>that wine and chat. I'd love that, would love it. Jim,

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for your time, my friend. Terrific. Thanks Pal.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Really appreciate a Maria. Thank you. What a great sport.

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Jim is hearing Jim do the impression of Frank Caliendo's

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>impression of Jim and Tony in the booth, And how

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>about the touching story of the genesis of Hello Friends.

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>If you didn't love Jim Nance before, just man, that

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>pulls at the heartstrings that he's talking to his father

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>when he does that, and Jim is so likable on

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the air, and that story. I loved them already, but man,

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that story is incredible and it's just a big reason

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 1>why Jim connects with the audience the way he does.

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<v Speaker 1>the Dave Pash Podcast, and thanks of course to our guest,

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<v Speaker 1>the great Jim Nance. We'll talk to you next time

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<v Speaker 1>right here in the Dave Pash Podcast.