1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dave Pass ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: by play announcer. Our guest this week is the Great 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Jim Nance, who's been with CBS since nineteen eighty five. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: He's called the Final Four since nineteen ninety one, been 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a part of the NFL going back to ninety eight, 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: and called play by play as the lead voice since 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Jim will talk with us about 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: what's going to be his final Final Four in two 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty three. We'll talk about the timing, and 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: then I'll also discuss when he hopes to finish as 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: the voice of the Masters. This will be his thirty 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: eighth consecutive year calling the golf at Augusta coming up 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, I would like to be there 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: for the hundredth playing of the Masters, and then we'll 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: reevaluate because I'm only going to be seventy six. Lookno, 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: many of our friends are still working at the stages 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: later than that, like Al Michaels and on and on 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: and on. But that's the goal. How much longer will 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: he continue to call the NFL. We'll talk with Jim 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: about that. We'll get his thoughts on the Arizona Cardinals, 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: and we'll also get Jim's impression of Frank Kelly En 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: notes impression of Jim and Tony Romo. In the booth, 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: we are presented by BETMGM, the official sports betting partner 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Hila River Resorts and Casinos. 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: The bet MGM Touchdown Boost Token is here and increase 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: your payout with every Cardinal's touchdown. 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Well, Jim, 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: first of all, it's it's an honor to talk to you. 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: You're one of my favorites. You're one of the best 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: in our business of what you do, and you're such 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: a great guy. I'll never forget. Well. First of all, 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I met you for the first time when I was 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: doing the Final four for NCAA International back in It 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: was one of the two Florida Championships two thousand and six, 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: I think. And then I'm sitting at a restaurant in 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: New York City, delf Friscoes with my wife, and all 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the waitress comes over and says, hey, um, 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: this gentleman next to you here would like to buy 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: you guys a drink. I look over and it's you, 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: and and then you come over and hang out and 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: we're chatting it up for a while. So that's that's 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: what the fact. I remember that like it was yesterday. 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I think it was two and ten. I was doing 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: the Big East Tournament in New York and I can't 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: remember what you were there for. Maybe you were just 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: out to dinner with your bride. But I'll never forget that. Jim, Well, 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think you would actually remember that day, 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: but I remember it vividly. We were neighboring Booths, and 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: it was a real thrill to meet you. And we 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: have the gift and of being in the same industry, 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: which is the childhood dream for each of us. And 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: we also share, you know, not only a love of 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: college basketball, which you are absolutely exceptional at fall in 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: those games, I like you are with everything, but I 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: get to see a lot of your work on college 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: hoops when you're doing your Cardinals work during the fall. 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm always on at the same time, so I don't 67 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: get to enjoy it. But Pat McGrath, famous stats guy. 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I worked with you a ton and I've 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: had Pat by my side or I've been by his 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: side more like it, for thirty something years on college hoops. 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of people out there, you know, you 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: hear things in the industry, and everybody admiers and has 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: great respect for who you are not only is a broadcaster, 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: but more importantly what you like off the air. Oh 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, Pat has been He's been with 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: you probably twice as long as he's been with me. 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: But and I think Doug Collins, I don't know if 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: it was you, I think it was Doug Collins that 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: gave him the nickname Pat the Rat or PTR for short. 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: But Pat's a great statistician. He's as good as there is. 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: I think Pat the Rat the nickname belongs to Hankstram 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: That okay. He and Hank were close and I worked 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: with Hank years and years ago, and one time I 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: was on the air on him BBS and I was thinking, 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: everybody on the crew and our great stats guy, Pat 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: the Rat McGrath. Well, about two days later, Pat called 87 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: sheepishly and said, would you do me a favor? I said, 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: what is it? He said, Please don't ever call me 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: that on the air again. I don't mind off the air, 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: but my mom was watching and she was so confused. 91 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Why did he call you the rat? And she didn't 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: like that, and I said, never again, never again. On 93 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the air, He's just Pat McGrath. But yeah, optional guy, Jim. 94 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I've always thought somebody needs to do and I would 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: love to pitch at ESPN. Somebody needs to do a 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty, a documentary on the life of the statisticians, 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: because next to the players, the coaches, the broadcasters, no 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: one has a better seat for the biggest events. And 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Pat McGrath has done thirty Final 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: fours and twenty five to thirty Super Bowls. Yeah, he's 101 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: at thirty one Final fours and the super Bowl count 102 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: is up there, really high all those years with the 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: CBS Radio network in Westwood One, And that would be 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: a fascinating thing to see because these guys kind of 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: they come in with no fanfare. You're right, they're sitting 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: right at mid court or the fifty yard line and 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: they have this incredible access and the plus the fact 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: that they can crunch numbers and how they just go 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: about the mechanics of executing their jobs. It's pretty funny. 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: But it's an interesting group. They all know one another. Yeah, 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: they're all very close knit. The stats guy from one 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: crew knows stat guy from another. You know, Al Michael's 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: stats guy knows my stats guy, et cetera, et cetera. 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: So that's a good idea. I gotta get it to you. 115 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: That would be an interesting doc just the idio different 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: idiosyncrasies for these guys too, right, there's some different characters 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah. I have a guy on football, Ethan Cooperson, 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: who he walks into the booth like he did yesterday 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: in Tampa and it might be fifteen minutes before kickoff. Now, 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of good prep work that he's 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: forwarded than me during the week. But where's he been? 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: How did he get here? He just kind of comes in, leaves, disappears. 123 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: You don't even know he's there. But you get in 124 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: the heat of the battle. This guy can come up 125 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: with things like they all can, like Pat can. Yeah, 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: just amazing. Well, Pat will be with you for the 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: Final Four in twenty twenty three, which, as was reported 128 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, will be your last with CBS. 129 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just as Jim, what went into that decision? Why? 130 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Why the timing for you to turn that over to 131 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Iron Eagle after this upcoming Final Four? Well, it was 132 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: time because my chest have been on what I'd like 133 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: to call the Golden Hamster wheel for thirty seven years. 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I have been a part of the NCAA Tournament and 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: the Masters, in the PGA Tour and in as well 136 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: as football, and there was really not an offseason for me. 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: One season ends, the next one begins. Sometimes like the 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: very next week, you go from the Final Four in 139 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: the championship game and I'm in Augusta the next day, 140 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's thrilling, it's exciting, it's exhausting too, when 141 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: you get past the age of sixty. Has started doing 142 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: all this when I was twenty six for CBS, so 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I've been at it for more than half my life 144 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: and I needed to get some time back. I've got 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: two young kids and an older daughter, but my little 146 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: ones are six and eight, and I just cannot go 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: through another ten years of basically Daddy only home five 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: or six weeks a year or weekends a year. And 149 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: it started there. I've known for a long time that 150 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: that was gonna be the sport that would have to 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: come off the schedule, but it would still leave me 152 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: with a full NFL schedule with Tony Romo for many 153 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: years to comber both sign up for a long long 154 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: time and anchoring the golf, so I still got forty 155 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: weeks a year. It's just that five or six weeks 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: removed what my basketball obligations were will make a profound difference. 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: And it came up on a year too, when the 158 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Final Four is in Houston, which was my gateway city 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: to the industry coming out of the University of Houston 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: and being around the basketball program there and being the 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: public address announcer in the embryonic stages of Phi Slam 162 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: a jama That's when I got my start with that 163 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: basketball team, and it just felt right to come back 164 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: to Houston and closed down baskets where it all started 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: for me. I thought it might have been because you 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: just couldn't take Bill Raftery anymore, not on the air, 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: but after the game. I worked with Bill when he 168 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: was at ESPN, and like, if you left dinner before 169 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: two in the morning, like you got an evil look. 170 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: And then there were sometimes if you did leave, I'd 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: be going to the airport for six am flight and 172 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: he's just walking in. So I thought maybe it was 173 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: because of raff I want your audience to know this 174 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: is not embellished at all. Okay, this is so true. 175 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: Raft is such a treasure and he was my first 176 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: basketball partner, by the way, Dave. Back in the nineteen 177 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: eighty six and SA tournaments, my first tournament game I 178 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: ever called was Duke against Old Dominion in Greensboro, North Carolina, 179 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. So now all these years later, I'm 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: going to come to my final tournament as a broadcaster, 181 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: and there is a site at Greensboro the first week 182 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: of the of this year's tournament, and you know Duke 183 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: and North Carolina will an all likelihood be sent there, 184 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: which means will be sent there. So it all comes 185 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: full circle. You know. I got to start with I'm 186 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: going to end with raft and the Great Grant Hill 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: was just such a gym, such a wonderful guy and 188 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: a broadcaster that has really seized it and has just 189 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: done super with it and will continue for years. But 190 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: I love my teammates and I'm going to miss that 191 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: part of it. Tracy Wilson. I gonna miss that part 192 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: of it more than anything. But I do feel really 193 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: great about I and getting a chance to do it. 194 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: He deserves to have that chance. Here's a stat for it, 195 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: which is typical of Pat to come up with it. 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: But before I transitioned from being the host of the 197 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: Final four to calling the lead INCA a tournament package, 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Brent Musburger was doing the games, and Brent was a 199 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: great mentor and friends, and I couldn't believe I was 200 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: in his company the first six years of my career. 201 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: But bent Brent called six final fours in championship six 202 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: he tied the record that belongs to Dick invert so 203 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: Wrent and Dick that sticks championships each This coming tournament 204 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: will be my thirty seconds. So it's been a long time, 205 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to get greedy about it. 206 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: It's been a long time, and I've thought for several 207 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: years that maybe it was time to start scaling back 208 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: just a little bit and just reduce it to NFL 209 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: at golf. But with Houston out there off twenty three, 210 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: this was years ago when they got they got the 211 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: nod for the twenty three Final four. I told CBS 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: even then that will be my last, so it came 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: as no surprise to them, and just now it's official. Well, 214 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: you will obviously be missed. But if there's anybody who 215 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: is not only talented, but can handle Raftree and also 216 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: just be a great ambassador for CBS and for college 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: basketball to follow in your footsteps, it's it's Iron because 218 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: he's so good and he's such a great guy. I'm 219 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Jim about the Masters. I think this is thirty eight 220 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: in a row for you. He talked about the run 221 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: with college basketball, but longer on the Masters, how much 222 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: longer do you think you'll go why would you ever 223 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: stop with the Masters. I mean, that's well, I don't 224 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: want to, but takes its course. But thank you for 225 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: saying that I have one more Masters than I do 226 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: NCAA tournaments because in the pandemic they canceled the tournament. 227 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: That you're the NCAA tournament, so they're off by one. 228 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, this will be thirty eight coming up at 229 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: a custom and long ago, Dave, I'm talking nineteen eighty six, 230 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: when Jack Nicholas won that historic sixth Green jacket. I 231 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: was making my way back to the compound when Ken ventory, 232 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: the legendary commentator on Hall of Fame golfer, pulled up 233 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: in a golf cart and he said, where are you going, 234 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: young man? I said, I'm walking back to the compound. Sir, 235 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: he says, jump in, Jimmy, I'll give you a ride. 236 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: I was honored to be riding with him. This was 237 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: my first Masters show, and I'd watched Ken my whole life, 238 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: not realizing one day we'd be in the eighteen tower 239 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: together for a long long time and he became a 240 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: huge mentor of mine. But anybody, Ken says, how old 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: are your son? And I said him twenty six? He said, well, 242 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a prediction for you right now. One 243 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: day you're going to be the first golfer to ever 244 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: broadcast this event fifty times. I thought, Wow, that's profound. 245 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe he thinks I have that kind of ability. 246 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Plus he called me Jimmy, which my mom, my, dad, 247 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: my friends all call me because my dad was jim 248 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I was Jimmy still ams and my family members and 249 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: close friends. Anyway, he said, you'll be the first to 250 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: ever do fifty. But I'll tell you one thing, Son, 251 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: You'll never live to see a day greater than this. 252 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Around AUGUSTA, so I had all these highs and lows, 253 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: and that one little movie scene I had the high 254 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: of Ken Ventrury calls me, Jimmy calls me Son, is 255 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: very father figurish. He thinks I have a modicum of 256 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: ability to be able to make this outlandish prediction. I'll 257 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: do this for fifty fifty years. And anyway, I look 258 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: at it years later, Dave, and he'd really in a 259 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of ways to define my career. He set up 260 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: what I wanted my career to be like. At the end, 261 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to do what Conventuri recognized that day. I 262 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do fifty and I used to say that 263 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: too to close associates until a few years later, I 264 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: was actually being introduced. As bizarre as this sounds, Bib 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: Venturi and Jack Whittaker and an event at Bellair Country 266 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Club They've jointly presented me, and I got up and 267 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: told this story that I just told you about fifty masters. 268 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: We retired that night after the speech over at the 269 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Hotel bel Air bar, and Jack Whittaker looked at me 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: talk about an idol for me. He said, I heard 271 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: what is set up there, Jimmy about fifty masters. I said, yes, sir, 272 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: does sound crazy. He says, no, not at all, but 273 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you need to adjust the count. I said, why is that, sir? 274 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: He says, you need to do fifty one. I said, well, why, 275 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: he says, because if you do it, the math on it, 276 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: the fifty first masters for you will be the one 277 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: hundredth playing of the Masters tournament. He said, you'll want 278 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: to be there for that, but I think it's important 279 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: for the masters that you be there for it too. 280 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: So I tweaked it and that became the goal. Is 281 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: weird as that number sounds, it's fifty one that would 282 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: take me to twenty thirty six. God willing that I 283 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: get that chance. The help holds up and everybody still 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: wants me to do it. Let me add that I 285 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: would like to be there for the hundredth playing of 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the Masters, and then we'll reevaluate because I'm only going 287 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: to be seventy six. Loo kind how many of our 288 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: friends are still working at the stages later than that, 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: like al Michaels and on and on and on. But yeah, 290 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that's the goal, fifty one Masters. If I can get there, 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want to be greedy about it, that 292 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: would be that would mean a lot to me in 293 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: my heart. Well, I work with Hugh by Brown on NBA. 294 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: He's eighty nine and he's still going strong. Jim you 295 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: can do one hundred and fifteen Masters or Jimmy? Sorry? 296 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Can I call you Jimmy now? The rest I didn't 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: realize everybody that you're you're friends with, and I would 298 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: hope that we can call each other friends. I'm gonna 299 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: call you Jimmy. Um. But the fact that that would 300 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: be you would have at that point have done more 301 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: than half of the Masters. I mean, you'd be a 302 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: synonymous and I think you already are because of you know, 303 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: when people think of the masters, they they they hear 304 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: your voice, they hear the music and then your voice 305 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: coming up. Um, Hello friends. I'm sure you've been asked 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: that so many times. When when did that start? What 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: was the When was the first time you used it? 308 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: And wow, uh he say, my dog, he heard hello 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: friends right on from my family protector. They're getting all 310 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: wound up. The term hello friends was never intended to 311 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: be anything that had lasting power or I would be 312 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: associated with. It was purely the circumstance of me trying 313 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: to come up with something that my father would know 314 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: that I was thinking of him when I when I 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: said goodbye to him at his bedside in two thousand 316 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: and two. It's only been around since O two. My 317 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: father was fighting Alzheimer's disease and the mind was slipping 318 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: by the day, and I would play these little tricks 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: and word games with him. And as I left his 320 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: side in Houston, I said, Dad, I'm gonna I'm gonna 321 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: come on the air this weekend. I'm gonna say your 322 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: name because my name is his name, and I'm gonna 323 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: say hello friends. And that's for you because you have 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: nothing but friends. So when you'd see me on camera, 325 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, at that very moment, I'm thinking to you, Okay, 326 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: you got it. I got it. Well. I walked out 327 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: of the room realized there's probably a pretty good chance 328 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: he had already forgotten it badly. But I carried that 329 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: in my heart and from a golf event and Hazel 330 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: team in Minnesota, I open up the third round coverage 331 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: with a hello, friends, Jim nance here, you know, And 332 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: next thing you know, the show ends. I get a 333 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: call from a very close friend of mine and said, hey, 334 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: I heard you say all friends on the here. What 335 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: was that about. I said, I passed them along a 336 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: message to my dad. He said, well, that sounds like you. 337 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: You ought to do that all the time. So I 338 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: did it for the fourth round, the following weekend and 339 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: every weekend thereafter. And you know, my dad's been gone 340 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: since oh eight days, has been gone a long time. 341 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: But for that very bleeding little moment, as I'm on 342 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: the air and trying to get get us started, I 343 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: look into that lens that gives us absolutely no feedback. 344 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: As you know, you look into that dark camera lens 345 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: and you don't think about the millions of people on 346 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: the other side. But I look at it and I 347 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: think of him. For I just it flashes in my 348 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: head every time yesterday, and for me it's a nice 349 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: comforting moment. I feel like he's right with me and 350 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: it calms me. That makes sense. I think the public 351 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: would be surprised that you get on some of these shows, 352 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: maybe every show, but the bigger ones, and you do 353 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: have those butterflies, at least I do, and the most 354 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: if you will. Anxiety you feel feeling as a broadcaster 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: is just when you're coming on the air, just going 356 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: through the blocking and tackling of getting the show started, 357 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: particularly when they come to me on camera. It's it's 358 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: not like the first t Jitters, but you know, maybe 359 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: a modified version of that. But everybody's so worked up, 360 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you've been preparing all week and you just kind of 361 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: want to get on the air cleanly. And it made 362 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: me better in that moment because it distracts me and 363 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: it makes me think of my hero, my dad, And 364 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. It's not any cheesy saying 365 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: to try to create some sort of reaction. It was 366 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: just born out of a son trying to pass along 367 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: a message that is that's awesome, Jim. That is like, man, 368 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I had not heard that story, and I'm pretty sure 369 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: most people out there that are listening to us probably 370 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: if not. That is incredibly inspirational, just another reason to 371 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: watch you. And I think the best broadcasters are those 372 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: that connect with the audience. And I mean you had 373 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: that connection. That's why you're still doing what you're doing, 374 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, forty years into it with CBS, is because 375 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: of how likable you are. And I think a lot 376 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: of times when you say that, I think you know, 377 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: the audience looks at you as their friend. So when 378 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: you say hello, friends, it's it's mutual and it's just 379 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: one more reason to be in love with Jim. Nance Well, 380 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: thank you know. I walked through airports and it's all 381 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: of it is truly a little surreal. And again, I 382 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: know I'm saying things that you can relate to. But 383 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: when we wanted to get into this business, we got 384 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: into this business because we wanted to tell stories. We 385 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be at these big events and be the 386 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: narrator of these things that we're going to unfold. It 387 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: wasn't about being on television or radio or people knowing 388 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: you or having a following, or people asking for a 389 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: picture or your autograph. I've never even thought about any 390 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: of that stuff that would be a part of it. 391 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: So it's still after thirty some odd years, it's still 392 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: a little strange to get used to that people actually 393 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: not everyone obviously, but people actually know you and they 394 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: feel like they know you. And I can be walking 395 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: through an airport and I can just get that shout 396 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: out stadiums all with my hello friend, Hey friends, you know, 397 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of go around with it and it's a connection point. 398 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: But I hear it all the time, and it still 399 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: catches me a little off guard, you know, dealing with 400 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: some of the recognition, I guess is the word It 401 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: comes with it the people. You go perform it, and 402 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: you go you go do your shows, and you prepare 403 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: all week, and you try to do service to the 404 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: game and make sure the game is the thing and 405 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: you're not the thing. And then you step out of 406 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: it and you realize people like listen to you and 407 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: they do feel like they have a relationship with you. 408 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm honored that people feel that way, but I'm just saying, 409 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how long you do it, it's still 410 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: a little bit like I'm still the kid that never 411 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: even thought about that being even any part of my life. 412 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: And I didn't know that anybody would know who I was. 413 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: I just want to be a storyteller. So the hello 414 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: friends thing has become a way that people approach me. 415 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: So I hear it all the time, and it's lovely, 416 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: it's nice, it's again. It all traces back to Done 417 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: trying to trying to stay connected with his dad because 418 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: his dad's mind was deteriorating. You talked about, you know, 419 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: not being bigger than the show, and you never are. 420 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: And I think you're as good as anybody at that. 421 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: And that coincides with getting the best out of your 422 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: broadcast partner, which is big part of our job is 423 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: to get the best out of the analyst. And and 424 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: I you know, I know you get credit, but I 425 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: don't think you get enough credit for the job you 426 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: do with Tony Romo and allowing Tony to be Tony 427 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: and getting the best out of him. If you did 428 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: things differently, and maybe you know, tried to be the show, 429 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Tony wouldn't get to do what he does. And did 430 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: you know that you did a mock broadcast of the 431 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cowboys Pro Football Hall of Fame a handful of 432 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: years ago. Did you know right away that Tony would 433 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: you get the buzz that he gets. What was the 434 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: process like of bringing him along into the booth? Well? 435 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: That was That was an amazing evening. We were stuck 436 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: in the corner of an end zone that was like 437 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: forty yards back of the corner of the end zone, 438 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: a little temporary well al Michaels. They showed it on 439 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: the broadcast. They called it a deer stand. But that 440 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: was one of eight games that we actually practiced. Three 441 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: of them were on site, the one in Akron, one 442 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: in Charlotte, one in Oakland. Five were in a studio 443 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: And this happened from mid May until mid August. We 444 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: would do these rehearsal practice games. I gotta tell you, Dave, 445 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I knew the first time we did a practice game, 446 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: it was on May seventeen, twenty seventeen, that he was 447 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: good enough to go on the air right there and 448 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: be one of the best for that show. For that 449 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: rehearsal game. His instincts were so good and his enthusiasm 450 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: and excitement were just off the charts. You're right, I mean, 451 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: we are trying I believe it's one of our primary responsibilities, 452 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: if it's not number one, to be the ultimate set 453 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: up guy in point guard for your analysts. Look, nobody 454 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: does it better than you. With Bill Walton, it's to me, 455 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: it's I don't have a choice, Jim. I don't have 456 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: a choice, Jim. He just talks anyway. So I kind 457 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: of left left and that's PA's awesome pairing. Um, but 458 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: I I just I just I just think the world 459 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: of Tony and I don't really put any boundaries. This 460 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: is what you need to do, this is what I 461 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: need to do. It's not a dance step. It's two 462 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: guys watching a game, and Tony has this ability to 463 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: break it down faster than anyone I've ever seen. So 464 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 1: this is year six. We've gotten here rather quickly, but 465 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: it has been it's been just a fantastic ride. And 466 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm hoping for somewhere around another dozen years. 467 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: That would make me happy. That would be about right. 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: A few more and we'll let you go, Jim. Um, 469 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate the time. Um. Tom Brady, whenever 470 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: he decides retires going to go in the booth. I'm 471 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: curious because obviously you spent a lot of time with 472 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Tom over the years. How you think he'll be as 473 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: a broadcaster. Are there any other active NFL players? Because 474 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: part of our job is we meet with coaches and 475 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: players each week leading into the game that we're calling, 476 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: regardless of the sport. Is there anybody you think that's 477 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: an active player, maybe even somebody that is off the radar, 478 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: that's a younger guy that you think could do this 479 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: if he wanted to. Well, the first guy that comes 480 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: to mind for me is not a player, but a coach, 481 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: and that would be Mike Comlin. I think Mike has 482 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: the gift of expression like no one I've ever heard 483 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: in football before. And by that I mean he says 484 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: things a turn of a phrase that has I've never 485 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: heard it before. It's the exact opposite of cliche. Everything 486 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: he says is new and fresh. His phraseology is it's incredible. 487 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how, and he does it off a cuff. 488 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: If you watch one of his press conferences and hear 489 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: and break down the game or what's going on with 490 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: the team, his material is. His mind works really quickly. 491 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: He's a brilliant guy, and I think if he ever 492 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: wanted to do it. I think he could be I 493 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: just think. I just think he could be exceptional. Now 494 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: we know this abount Tom. When Tom decides to do it, 495 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: he's got the contract and you know it's all set 496 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: up to go to Fox. But he will work as 497 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: hard as anybody ever on trying to be prepared for 498 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: these games. It's just the way he rolls, and he 499 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: will go through. I would think one of those summers, 500 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: like what we did with Tony, he'll do a lot 501 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: of practice games. There'll be a lot of things that 502 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't realize that are a part of it. By that, 503 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean meetings with the players, the amount of data 504 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: that comes to you now, I mean, there's so many 505 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: sources of information out it's almost information overload. But Tom 506 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: will one all of that. So I think he'll be 507 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: very good at it whenever that time comes. Have you 508 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: heard Frank Caliendo's impressions of you and Tony? By the way, 509 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: because Frank lives here and Phoenix, he actually lives. I'm 510 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: doing this right now from the Cardinal's facility, and without 511 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: giving Frank's address away, he's close by. He came in 512 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: studio last year and we had him call highlights of 513 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Cardinal Games. It was actually against the Rams and went 514 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: against the Rams, and I would stop him in mid 515 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: sentence and you know, throwout another name and he would 516 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: have to adjust quickly on the fly and change the impression. 517 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Can we do Nance and Roma on one of these? 518 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Jim's gonna coach Jim. What's going on here? This is 519 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: a great read. But Kyler paris coming in here. It's 520 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: gonna be tone is here we go jump Tony? He 521 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: did you know, Tony? And you have you? Have you 522 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: heard those from Frank? I've not only heard it, I 523 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: hear about them all the time. And it was really 524 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: at such a high level and frequency. It might have 525 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: been two years ago that I actually sought him out 526 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: and called him and thanked him. I said, I'm just 527 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: getting so much feedback out of more than anything, I 528 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: just want to let him know. I thought it was hilarious. 529 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: But he's got Tony down. It's a dead ringer. And 530 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: he said that my voice was a little harder to replicate, 531 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: but he does this shrieking high pitch here. I'll give 532 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: it to you, Tony. And you got me laughing just 533 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it. What a talent. I just I wanted 534 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: to see Franklin person. We almost cross paths here recently 535 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: for one of his shows and in Nashville, but that 536 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: that's still become great regard for him. I'm gonna let 537 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: him know. I'm gonna text him when we're done and 538 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: let him know that you just because I don't know 539 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: that he's heard your impression of yourself. Hey, I'm his 540 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: number one fan. You please let him know. Um, all right, 541 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: two more. Sorry didn't to keep you this long. I 542 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: know you get other things to do. Yeah, we're good. 543 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Thoughts on the Cardinals. I know that you were working 544 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: opposite the Cardinals game on Sunday and the loss to Seattle. 545 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: You had the Cardinals Week one against Kansas City. What 546 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what's going on here with Arizona. Well, 547 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of what the season has been 548 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: so far that very first week. It it just didn't 549 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: seem as though the Cardinals were hitting on all cylinders. 550 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: It just seems like something's amiss. I can't put my 551 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: finger on it. But it's foreign to all the Cardinals 552 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: faithful because they're used to this team jumping out of 553 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: the gates and then struggling on the back half of 554 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: the year. You know, maybe there's still time. I mean, 555 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's still time. But maybe they're gonna maybe 556 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna streak into positively streak into the postseason. It'll 557 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: take a lot of work now, I mean that loss 558 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: to Seattle was a crusher for them. They go three 559 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: games behind them plus the dead essentially four games back. 560 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: There's the there's I don't I just don't know. Everybody 561 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: battles injuries. I get that, and then again, they didn't 562 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: get d Hop back until a couple of weeks ago, 563 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: and Connor has been banged up. But it's just right now. 564 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: It's a strange year in the NFL. It's all upside down. 565 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: We're dealing with it. Every week. We can't get a 566 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: matchup for our a game where we have two teams 567 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: with a winning record. In fact, this week we have 568 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at Kansas City as our number one game. Never 569 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: would have guessed that Jacksonville at three and six at 570 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Arrowhead and that this will make now eight out of 571 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: nine weeks for us we've had a matchup with at 572 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: least one of the two teams with a losing record, 573 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: not even a five hundred record. One of the two 574 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: with the least a losing record yesterday, Rams Bucks last 575 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl champs both with losing records. So you know, 576 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: you start thinking about where the Cardinals are. The only 577 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: solace you can find is you can look at where 578 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay is, what Tampa season been like. I mean, 579 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: it's just right through the league. It's the Rams in 580 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: This's just everywhere you turn is like all of a sudden, 581 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: it's like the league shut down for three years and 582 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: nobody has any more positive momentum off of what they 583 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: did the year before. And the older quarterbacks. That's not 584 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: your issue there in Arizona, but the older quarterbacks, it's 585 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: a struggle. It's just there's there's just not a happy 586 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: story there to be found. This last question, maybe this 587 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: is a proper transition going from talking about the Cardinals 588 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: to wine, just given how it's been a struggle and 589 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: very stressful for a lot of people around here. The 590 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: calls transition your wine label, your winery, the calling I've 591 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: had the cab it was a few years ago. It 592 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: was very very good. Tell me the genesis of this 593 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: and how involved you are. Very involved. I own fifty 594 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: percent of the venture with my friend and business partner 595 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Peter Deutsch. This is something that I kind of had 596 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: worked on, not talking about full time worked on it, 597 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: but for a good ten years I was trying to 598 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: figure out how to get into that space and talk 599 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: to many people in the industry and visited wineries and 600 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: vineyards and ventnors and try to get a handle on 601 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: how that could possibly come about and have a label. 602 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: One day and lo and behold, I ran across Peter 603 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: just serendipity at a restaurant in Connecticut, told him as 604 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: my dream to somehow be involved in this, and I 605 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: would be very involved, and we decided to partner up together. 606 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: So we're in year eleven now, Dave. We're in five 607 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: thousand restaurants nationally. We have great, great following in Arizona 608 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: by the Way of Wine and all their stores and 609 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: many restaurants. We're in all fifty states. And wine's a 610 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: finicky thing, you know. It's not going to be about 611 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: your success, about who owns it. It's going to be 612 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: about what's inside the bottle. It has to be good. 613 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: And we are basically the gms, the owners or the coaches, 614 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: however you want to look at it. I would say 615 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: our winemakers are our coaches. We're the gms, and that 616 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: means we got to go out and get the best 617 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: sourcing because we don't own the dirt, we don't own 618 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: a vineyard, but we do source and buy grapes or 619 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: we take if you will, leases out on blocks of 620 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: vines at some of the great wineries in our country, 621 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: and that's really helped put us where we are today. 622 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: That is, by the way, a very high percentage of 623 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: the wine business today is sourcing, what we call it 624 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: sourcing where you don't own the property, but you source 625 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: your fruit. And we've had partners there that has been 626 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: legendary vineyards like Dutton Ranch. And what happened now is 627 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: we've had sixty somewhere approaching sixty five ninety plus point 628 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: rated wines in ten years. That's and they're all spread 629 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: across that Cab you mentioned, you know, the Wire and Chardonay. 630 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: So it's not like people can say, oh, that's a 631 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Chardonnay brand, that's a Cab brand, you know brand. We 632 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: like the consistency and we feel like we've kind of 633 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: at this point not getting ahead of ourselves, but we 634 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: like the way we've built it. We want it to 635 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: be multi generational Someday, his kids, Peter's kids, my kids 636 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: will own it, and I believe it's going to be 637 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: around for a long, long time. The next time you 638 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: and I have a conversation, let's make sure that there 639 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: is a bottle of the Calling open as we assip 640 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: and chat about life and broadcasting and just kind of 641 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: like we did back because some fifteen years ago when 642 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: you were kind enough to send over or drinking. Then 643 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: come spend some time with my wife and I in 644 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: New York. It's long overdue to do it again. And 645 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: I will be in your neighborhood the weekend of the 646 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Not for the Big Game, we don't have 647 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: it until next year in Vegas, but we'll be there 648 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: for the waste management Phoenix open. It's going to be 649 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 1: some time in Arizona. If you're not too busy, we'll 650 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: have a chance to maybe get together and sip on 651 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 1: that wine and chat. I'd love that, would love it. Jim, 652 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time, my friend. Terrific. Thanks Pal. 653 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Really appreciate a Maria. Thank you. What a great sport. 654 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: Jim is hearing Jim do the impression of Frank Caliendo's 655 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: impression of Jim and Tony in the booth, And how 656 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: about the touching story of the genesis of Hello Friends. 657 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: If you didn't love Jim Nance before, just man, that 658 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: pulls at the heartstrings that he's talking to his father 659 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: when he does that, and Jim is so likable on 660 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: the air, and that story. I loved them already, but man, 661 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: that story is incredible and it's just a big reason 662 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: why Jim connects with the audience the way he does. 663 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: We are presented by bet MGM, the official sports betting 664 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Hila River Resorts 665 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: and Casinos. You can follow us on Twitter at Pash 666 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: pod and please tell us what you think about the podcast, 667 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: if there are any guests that you'd like to hear from, 668 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: and what's your thoughts on from the first forty nine episodes. 669 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: You can go to your podcast platform and rate us 670 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: and review us. Thanks again to you for listening to 671 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: the Dave Pash Podcast, and thanks of course to our guest, 672 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: the great Jim Nance. We'll talk to you next time 673 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: right here in the Dave Pash Podcast.