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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Click yours up the Breakfast Club finish for y'all done. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this morning show, The Breakfast Club, Charlamage and the God

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Speaker 2: dj n be just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Laura La ROSSI is here and he's around here somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell he at right now,

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Speaker 2: but we got a special guest in the building, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Payne in the second.

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Speaker 3: This merchant is very fresh, by the way, very very

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Speaker 3: very fresh. You got the Martin Yeah, how are you?

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Speaker 3: First of all?

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Speaker 4: Bro good my brother?

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Speaker 3: How you you look? Good man? You ain't aging at all. No,

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Speaker 3: he's not.

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Speaker 1: Do what I could do?

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Speaker 4: What I can do it.

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Speaker 2: You played some very memorable sitcom characters like like when

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Speaker 2: did you realize people weren't just watching but they were

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Speaker 2: connecting with your work?

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Speaker 4: When did I realize that there's a difference between connecting

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Speaker 4: with the work and then like fame? Does that make

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Speaker 4: sense what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Like like I think I was at a New Addition concert, right,

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Speaker 4: I never forget this. It was like during the height

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Speaker 4: of Cosby. Right, I was at a New Addition concert

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Speaker 4: and I walked in in the dark, and I think

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Speaker 4: the lights had came up right. It was like they

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Speaker 4: were It was like the opener. And then they were

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Speaker 4: about to perform and I was going to my seat. Yeh,

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Speaker 4: right right, it's like the eighties, early early eighties, early

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Speaker 4: I was getting ready to go to my seat, and

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Speaker 4: the lights came up, and I'll never forget. It was like,

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Speaker 4: I think a Webster was there, Emanuel Lewis right, he

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Speaker 4: was there, and I think, you know, they saw him

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Speaker 4: in the crowd was storing calling crazy. I think Eddie

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Speaker 4: Murphy was there, and you know, you know, and then

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Speaker 4: all these girls and all these people started coming down

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Speaker 4: and it was pointing in my direction and I was like,

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Speaker 4: and I'm turning around, like who they see? And it

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Speaker 4: was like chaos, but it was me. And then they

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Speaker 4: had that escort me backstage right, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: that's the the just that moment alone, and just because

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, who the you know? Who else

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Speaker 4: is here? I was like, no, nigga, you And I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh damn, there was there was. I don't

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Speaker 4: I couldn't understand what they was saying. Bottom line is

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Speaker 4: that moment was crazy and I never forget My best

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Speaker 4: friend at the time. He looked at me backstage and

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Speaker 4: he was like because it was like I'm going to

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Speaker 4: get all.

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Speaker 5: The left.

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Speaker 4: Shook, but he was looking like, Oh, this is gonna

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Speaker 2: I said all the time, eighties and nineties fame. Nobody

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Speaker 2: will ever achieve that level of fame.

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Speaker 3: Ever. The world is just too different.

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Speaker 4: Eighties eighties was the best time ever. Like, if you

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Speaker 4: was alive during the eighties and you're still alive now,

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Speaker 4: then you know what I'm talking about. Like the eighties,

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Speaker 4: the eighties was just different. It was it was like

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Speaker 4: it was like a it was like a revolution, right.

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Speaker 4: It was like just everything was. Everything was about fun.

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Speaker 4: Everything was happy. Movies was happy, h clubs, everything was.

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Speaker 4: It was a movement. I love the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I love and that's why I don't understand about like

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Speaker 2: when it comes to black uh culture, right, Like we

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Speaker 2: eighties and nineties especially, I'm talking about this TV and

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Speaker 3: Eighties the nineties. It was positive. It was black people

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Speaker 3: depicted in the right light.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know what happened, Yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: Come on, get.

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Speaker 4: It happened a lot of things happened, man, I think.

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Speaker 4: I think, well, first of all, you know the every

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Speaker 4: everything changes, everything changes, landscape change, Uh, Internet that was huge,

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Speaker 4: social media huge, and then it became like it killed

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Speaker 4: the celebrity in my opinion, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: like like because then now anybody can be whatever, right,

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Speaker 4: So and then there's no there's no mystery, there's no

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of these things change and

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Speaker 4: that's that that helped to me shape the landscape.

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Speaker 6: And back then you didn't You only knew a celebrity

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Speaker 6: we weren't in their lives. You couldn't send them a

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Speaker 6: DM and and they see it and you see that

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Speaker 6: they read it. You know, y'all weren't accessible at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, it used to be a club. It used to

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Speaker 4: be a very special club that you had to be

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Speaker 4: have talent to be a part of. You had you

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Speaker 4: had to really have something right one of three things,

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Speaker 4: if not all three things. And it was an elite club.

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Speaker 4: And that was that, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 4: before social media to become a household name, you know,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, but it was appointment viewing too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was a Joel witness. So on Thursday nights,

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Speaker 2: we was at the Kingdom of but we was recording

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Speaker 2: Cosby Show to come home and watch. So you think

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Speaker 2: about all of America gathering around in television when it's

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Speaker 2: one show. Like I was looking at some numbers the

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Speaker 4: B Yeah, yeah, it was, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was incredible. It was incredible, and I was just

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Speaker 4: blessed to be a part of it, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it was super impactful. And I think

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Speaker 4: the one thing, not even the one thing, the thing

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Speaker 4: they'll let you know how programming works, and just the

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Speaker 4: young black individuals that decided to go to HBCUs right,

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Speaker 4: decided to take their lives into a different trajectory, become lawyers,

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Speaker 2: And you know, something happened. I don't care what y'all say.

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Speaker 4: What's the thing they call it? When it's like it's

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Speaker 4: like you what they call it? Where it's like now

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Speaker 4: they act like it never existed, right, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about? Like the different But because Simbad was

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Speaker 4: Like it was like the movie Simbad Versus Anyway, it

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Speaker 5: What about onlike the network like power making decisions side

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Speaker 5: of it, Like what do you think something happened?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: Because okay, like I've heard you talk about like even

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Speaker 5: with like Martin, Like when y'all were going through things

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm with Charlomagne. Something happened, something happened,

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Speaker 4: something happened. I really don't know, I think, but I

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Speaker 4: think everything happens in cycles. Right It's like I feel

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Speaker 4: like we we will probably see a resurgence of that,

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Speaker 7: Well, it hit like.

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Speaker 1: It won it won't. It won't.

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Speaker 4: It won't because it's oversaturated. It's oversaturated now the cream

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Speaker 4: that makes sense, But no, it won't be the same

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Speaker 4: it was like we get to speak how we want

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Speaker 4: and we bringing the culture to the culture, and we're

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Speaker 4: my opinion, that's why certain people will be more impactful

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Speaker 4: It's not the ages. You see what I'm saying, It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not in the music, it's not it's literally not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's a sense of community missing

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Speaker 2: Even when you talk about you know how you know,

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Speaker 3: Hang out and watch y'all on TV. It was this

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Speaker 4: Community like but but it felt a community personal, right,

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Speaker 4: It felt it felt like like what's and that's the

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Speaker 4: same thing with comedy, right, like what's personal is actually universal,

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Speaker 4: I gotta treat this like it's on art form and

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Speaker 4: I have to approach it like I did with my acting.

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Speaker 4: I literally have to go to school again. I literally

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Speaker 4: have to like pay my dues and be in it,

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Speaker 4: immerse myself in it. And I learned early on that

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Speaker 4: you know how when you learn, you learned you learn

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Speaker 4: in the classroom, which is on stage, which is not

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Speaker 4: a fun place to learn. But I learned early on

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Speaker 4: that people really do want to know, like you have

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Speaker 4: to be vulnerable, you really have to you know. And

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Speaker 4: that because I was like, yeah, they know, they don't know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because listen, listen. Only the thing about acting you

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Speaker 4: Now it's her turn. But when you on stage, you naked,

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Speaker 4: You like this?

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Speaker 1: Like that?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So? How gonna geve Iten?

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Speaker 7: Doing comedy?

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Speaker 4: I started, I started a long time ago, but I

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Speaker 7: I remember you.

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Speaker 6: You were in one of the clubs you came to

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Speaker 6: one of my dates. Yeah, I was down South and

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Speaker 4: What made you get into it though, because it was

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Speaker 4: it was for me, it was, except there was a

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Speaker 4: in the game. You always saw whatever show you heard

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Speaker 4: it was too loud.

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Speaker 4: It was like looking like, put it this way, if

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Speaker 4: rock with it. Uh, it was. It was. It was

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Speaker 4: I gotta face that, I gotta do everything I said.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna do everything I set out to do

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Speaker 4: everything that got me to where I was before, I

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Speaker 4: I quit, and but yeah, I said, nah, this is

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Speaker 3: You never had the bug before me being around Bill Cosby,

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Speaker 3: to do it? Then?

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Speaker 4: Nah, I mean, well, yes, yes and no, yes and no,

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Speaker 4: because again, I was just concentrating on doing my job,

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Speaker 4: they started calling me. Actually, you know who got me

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Speaker 4: then it was like, and that's really how you build

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Speaker 4: who had suggested me.

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Speaker 3: Damn, I told me he was I was supposed to

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Speaker 3: play their character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I but you know, comedy looks effoless when it's

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Speaker 2: when it's done right. How much of your performance was

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Speaker 4: Craft on stage? All of it, all of it, like

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Speaker 4: it's you got to combine it all because I mean,

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Speaker 4: you put it this way, Living in the moment is

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Speaker 4: you feel them out. Like every crowd is different, every

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Speaker 4: whether you are Seattle, Utah, wherever. So it's like but

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Speaker 4: being able to apply all the technical things in that moment,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Because you can riff all day,

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Speaker 4: you can riffle, but what are you talking about? You

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Speaker 4: still got to get into your material. So yeah, you

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Speaker 4: to talk about something like, you know, crowd work is CrowdWork? Okay, great?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, who are you and where are you pulling

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: So is it from years of you in the industry?

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Speaker 7: Is that you younger?

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Speaker 4: Is it you everyday life? Right now? I'm a pop pop.

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Speaker 1: I went from unk to O G. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Like you know, yeah, I was like I

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Speaker 4: Now you o G?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: All right, cool?

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Speaker 4: I mean you got one, two, three, five, You.

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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I just go from real life. My youngest son,

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Speaker 4: I got four sons. My youngest son is nineteen and man,

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Speaker 4: I tell you he is mister fa fo. He is

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Speaker 4: like coming here, being in the Delta Lounge and in

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Speaker 4: a fascist society. I'm like, and this is where you

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Speaker 4: choose to.

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Speaker 1: Do this, This is where you're Maybe it's not a time,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's not a place, but this is what.

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Speaker 3: I'm like.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there eating my little Minnestroani soup.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I can't make this ship up. I

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Speaker 4: can't make this is my life every time. I can't

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Speaker 4: make this up.

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Speaker 3: Did he tell you he was going to go into protest?

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Speaker 1: No, that's my point.

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Speaker 4: I'm literally like and I'm looking around, like, yo, this

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Speaker 3: Okay, what he thowt some of the news. He's reading

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Speaker 3: the paper, don't.

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Speaker 4: I think he just chose it like he was one

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, first of all, how you get in here?

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Speaker 1: But he got in here and this is his audience.

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Speaker 4: Right now, this is what he chooses and people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to ask you, man, because you talked

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Speaker 2: about you know how you know, y'all used to take

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, yo, I stayed out of it.

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Speaker 4: I was not that guy that was not good at that.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: No, no, let me tell you something growing up.

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Speaker 4: But see that's the thing that we're missing right now.

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Speaker 4: We was just talking about this earlier. Kids don't go

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Speaker 7: No more.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get your feelings hurt enough to build up

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Speaker 4: I wanted to kill him. I want I would. I

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Speaker 4: you go through it, and you're like, oh no, you

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Speaker 1: They would go way too far, and I know, I

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Speaker 4: Especially her Martin. They would just go at it. And

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Speaker 4: They and show. She used to be like and Dwayne

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Speaker 4: I can't hear you because you don't have a basketball

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Speaker 4: talk about what he did. She was like, I know, oh, yes,

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Speaker 4: you were almost to Nick.

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Speaker 3: I know almost.

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Speaker 4: You were selling out ymca. Is that what you were doing?

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Speaker 3: Background?

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Speaker 1: But you know, you know what I'm saying. I was like,

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'll be like my ministroani soup. You

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no. I was definitely agitated.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely yeah, for real, you're gonna let hers

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Speaker 1: say that. Get a son, Get up, Get up.

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Speaker 2: So I had the cold character developed it like because

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Speaker 2: Cole was funny on the show, but he didn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: but you know, but you know what I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 2: He wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's no, no, no, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: That's funny though, because look, look here's the thing, here's

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Speaker 4: here's Howard developed. I felt like he and I were

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Speaker 4: it's going off, and I was like, well, I gotta

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Speaker 4: do something to kind of separate us, because you know,

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Speaker 4: Tommy was a straight guy, you know, and you can

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Speaker 4: it was always and that was at the time when

439
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 4: all of the everybody, all the black designers was coming on,

440
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 4: you know, cross colors, hoo boo, everybody. So I was

441
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 4: getting a ton of gear, ton of gear, and I

442
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 4: was like, and it was always dressing me real real,

443
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 4: you know. I was like, okay, let's start with the clothes.

444
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 4: Let's start. And it's like the thing is an actor.

445
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: When you do your homework, you say, okay, let's build

446
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 4: this character. Who is this guy? Who is this guy

447
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 4: in this circle of friends? But who is he? You know,

448
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 4: where did he come from? You know? And how does

449
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 4: he fit in this in this thing? And that's how

450
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 4: I started building on him. And then I was like,

451
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: there's a certain innocence about Cold, There's a certain naivety,

452
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 4: right like, so whereas you thought he was dumb, I'm like, no,

453
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 4: he just innocent. He just he believes everything. He lives

454
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 4: in his own world. But it's okay because they know

455
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 4: him there, he the mayor. He ain't there's nothing you

456
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 4: can't tell me. He's not committed to he believes everything

457
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: he's saying. He might have smoked weed too, maybe maybe

458
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 4: because you know, you know when you see where you

459
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 4: got cat cats that you know you still you know

460
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 4: And then they be like me, tell you.

461
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: What we go?

462
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 4: Do you go get these niggas soup for free? That

463
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 4: a lot of senion, right, But but I can't give

464
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: you that tell me, but I can put that in there.

465
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 7: I felt like Cole was his most genius when he

466
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 7: met Sheanese because Shenice was dumb as they come.

467
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 4: I was like, Lord, yes, but which which was?

468
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: Which was?

469
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: Which was kind of funny because it's like she took

470
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: it to the next level. Yeah, she was dumb squared?

471
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 7: Yes?

472
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 5: Was her character always supposed to be dumb?

473
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 7: Or was that like?

474
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 5: Did you tweak that because it complimented your character a little?

475
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: A little?

476
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 4: Yes, so yes we did tweak that to answer that, Yes, yes,

477
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 4: But I think they wrote it like that too. They

478
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 4: wrote it like, oh, that is his soul mate, This

479
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: is the one that that gets him that he has

480
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 4: to look at like people look at him. Makes sense?

481
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 7: Yeahcause Big Shirley wasn't the soul mate.

482
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: No, yeah, well, yes she was, yes, yes, yes she

483
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 4: was big Sureley was definitely and more ways than one

484
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 4: she held me down.

485
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: Big surely. One of the most positive depictions of a

486
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: fat person on TV. We never saw her.

487
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 4: Big girl, big girl, big girl.

488
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 3: She was a real person.

489
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, big heart not she well, all right her. You

490
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 4: know what They did show one time early on? No, yeah,

491
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 4: early on, and I think it was during the fight

492
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: party of somewhere around that type of episode.

493
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

494
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, she fell asleep on the couch. She was a

495
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: secure she was like so literally she she literally grew.

496
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 7: This is big Sharlie. Wait a minute around this black

497
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 7: and white on boom.

498
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah secure, yes, yes, she wasn't even big.

499
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: That's one point she got.

500
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah she did stick right here.

501
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 7: Wow she was like six undred pounds.

502
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, she did.

503
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 4: She got bigger as the show went on, to the

504
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 4: point where you couldn't even see her on the screen.

505
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Why do you think that human still hits

506
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: all these decades later? Because Martin's always on and reruns,

507
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, what.

508
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: To tell you the truth, I don't know, I don't know. See,

509
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like it was just representative

510
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 4: of a time, like you said, an era that that

511
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 4: represented fun it represented you know, everything that we all

512
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: stood for that that again it was like I know him,

513
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: I know her. That's it was relative. It was relativity.

514
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 6: And then you see yourself in it because like I

515
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 6: seen myself as Paan, I'm always I had a lot.

516
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 6: I had a few on girls going up, but I

517
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 6: used to hang with the guys and I would be

518
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 6: riffing and cracking on them. And that's how I learned

519
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 6: improv I learned doing that, you know, from watching all

520
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 6: for y'all was my friends too, you know what I'm saying,

521
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 6: you know, So that the nostalgia, the nostalgia of that

522
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 6: made me like a comedian, Like that's what I wanted

523
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 6: to do.

524
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 7: You know. And So with that being said.

525
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 6: When people talk about like older reboots and I want

526
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 6: to see more and remade, I always have a problem

527
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 6: with it because I feel like a time like that

528
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 6: can't be remade because those are not the times that

529
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 6: we're living in right now.

530
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 7: We would have to touch on.

531
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 6: Too many other things that would kind of blur the funny,

532
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 6: you know, and blur the realism of what's going.

533
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 4: On and you know what's interesting about that, yes, is

534
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: I think that it could have been done at one time.

535
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: It could have been done. The timing of it would

536
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: have had to have been specific, right, Yeah, it could

537
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: have been done. But you're right, certain stuff you don't

538
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: need to touch. Certain things you definitely just need to

539
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: you know, because you can't capture that same lightning in

540
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 4: a bottle. And you're right, it would have to be

541
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: done in a way that is indicative and speaks to today,

542
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think for the show.

543
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 4: I think we talked about this one time too. We

544
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 4: talked about this early on for the show. The show

545
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: could have actually continued to live on an infamy and

546
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: a cartoon for him. M hmm, because no one gets old,

547
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 4: no one died, and it stretches across generations like that

548
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: would have been, And we had talked about doing it like.

549
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: That, So I don't even think. I mean, you couldn't.

550
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: You couldn't do it now without Thomas, you can't.

551
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: That was the thing. That's why I said. The timing

552
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: of it, yeah, you know, and like he was my

553
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 4: best friend in real life, so you know, the timing

554
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 4: of all of that was crazy.

555
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: So he was your best friend of real life, and

556
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: you still didn't get in the comedy because he was

557
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: a stand up too.

558
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: But but he wasn't.

559
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 7: I've seen him all things before you've never.

560
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: Seen Okay, no, no, that's what I'm saying. He was.

561
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: He taught me a lot. He taught me a lot.

562
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: He definitely taught me a lot about the business, about

563
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: like like about everything. So I think he was one

564
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 4: of the people who influenced me the most coming up

565
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: during that time, you know what I mean, Like like

566
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: when we first started working on the show. I think

567
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: about a month or two after we started working, you know,

568
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: he had like this jeep, you know, the jeep wrangler joints.

569
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: Right then he like everybody started buying stuff because we're

570
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: getting money now, right, they started buying things. Then he

571
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: flipped it and he got himself a land Cruiser and

572
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 4: he milked it out, whited at everything like it was

573
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: like uptown. It was like belong in front of the rooftop,

574
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: right and I'm looking at him like damn, and he

575
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: had the dude dropped it off and I saw him

576
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 4: give this dude a check for like fifteen thousand, and

577
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: I'm like what's that for. He was like, no, that's

578
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 4: just for the You know what, I said, how much

579
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: you getting paid? He was like, what you mean? I

580
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: think we're getting paid? I said, but you can't be

581
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: getting paid the same. I can't do that. You give

582
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: it you're given just for accessories. Man, I can't do that.

583
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: He was like yeah, no, no, I said how much

584
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: you're getting paid Tommy? And then he was like, well,

585
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 4: first of all, he's like, you're incorporated, right. I was

586
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 4: like huh. Immediately he was like, no, you're not incorporated.

587
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: Was like, what was it incorporated? He put me up

588
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: on being incorporated and incorporated myself. It's like, no, you

589
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 4: get the whole check, pay yourself as a company, as

590
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: an entity. Down. I was like, so I didn't lost

591
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: all this money.

592
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: For the last two months, you know what I mean?

593
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: Not that I'm gonna run out and do that, but

594
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: my point being so. He was teaching me a lot

595
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: of stuff.

596
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Man.

597
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: Took me to the golf court course with him, and

598
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: he was like, this is what deals are made. This

599
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 4: is You're gonna want to do this later in life,

600
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: trust me, you know. Yeah. He put me on he

601
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: put me on impact. It was rough. It was really

602
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: rough because I think we would talk all the time,

603
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: like every other day. We speak, right, and you know

604
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 4: after the show, you know, we're catching jobs here and there.

605
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: You know, we're putting each other in different films. We're

606
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: doing things with each other, right or if he's doing speaking.

607
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: He was very, He was very. He was a huge

608
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: child advocate. He was a huge advocacy for you know,

609
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: our culture and just being black men in general, right,

610
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: being responsible, being response able. So he had just had

611
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: knee surgery, and so we was talking and he was like, yeah, man,

612
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: I'm in I'm in recovery and you know, rehabit and this,

613
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: that and the other. So I just spoke to him,

614
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 4: you know.

615
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: What I mean.

616
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 4: And then to Sheena had called me and she was like, Carl,

617
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: you spoke to Tommy. Well she said something like you

618
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: heard about Tommy And I was like, yeah, yeah, man,

619
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 4: you know he's saying he said he's getting his knee.

620
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 4: You know, he's his niece is messing with him. She

621
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: was like, no, Carl, No, I said what you mean.

622
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: She was like, you gotta go to Atlanta now. She

623
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: said his girl called him last night and was like

624
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: he's in a call and I was like, she talked me.

625
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: I just spoke to him yesterday, stopped playing with me.

626
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: And so when I went down there, Yeah, it was

627
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: seeing him and seeing him like that was was kind

628
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 4: of wild because you know, you just speak to somebody,

629
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 4: then you see him in the bed with them, and

630
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: then the room had this aura and this feeling and

631
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: a smell that I will never forget, you know what

632
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And yeah, so it was it was one

633
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: of those called off guard type things. And I know

634
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: that it was just me, his wife, and the priest

635
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: in the room and then wow, you know we pulled

636
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: the blood. Wow, that's all she wanted in the room. Hm. Hm,

637
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: you know. And she she was like, call, I need

638
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: you to talk to the press. I can't deal with

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 4: them right now. So I was like, all right, so

640
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: I had to I had to like keep all of

641
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: my stuff together to try to be strong for those

642
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 4: you know.

643
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Okay, it was did you give yourself an opportunity to

644
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: agree with you? Are you still agreeing a grief is

645
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: not linear?

646
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I think I ain't gonna get me

647
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: on here doing the uh niggas got the tissues on deck?

648
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: Now doing that?

649
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: What happened.

650
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: We're not doing that.

651
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm not, but he started zooming got tight just.

652
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: Not either.

653
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, uh black men do cry not today though, No, No,

654
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: I have given myself a chance to agree for sure.

655
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: I just think it's one of those things where the

656
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: older I get the tight of my circle. Got I

657
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of people in my circle because

658
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, you start, you know what I'm talking about,

659
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: You start weeding folks out there, weed themselves out for

660
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: a reason, and then your circle becomes important, a matter

661
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: of relevance, importance and excuse me all of the above.

662
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: And it was like, so you know that that person

663
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: does not exist anymo in my circle, you know what

664
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: I mean. But what it did teach me was how

665
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: random and how short life is. Man. You can't take

666
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: nothing for granted. You know, you can't take so even now,

667
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: like just those who you know may have made an

668
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: impact or who influenced you in some way. You know,

669
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: you got to call your peoples. You gotta check on

670
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: you got to just say what's up, even because you

671
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: know you can still have friends that you don't speak

672
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: to every day, but still you got to just reach

673
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: out to folks and be like Yo, you're good. I'm

674
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: just checking on You're good, all right?

675
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Cool?

676
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. But and to live life differently, right,

677
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: because it's random, it's super random, So you got to

678
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: cherish these moments. You gotta take time. I think we

679
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: be so caught up in our bubble and our goals

680
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: and we're so focused on X, Y and Z, but

681
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: we don't take time to be right here right now

682
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: like this, fella, Like I'm like, first of all, congratulations

683
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: to y'all. Man, this is beautiful. How you got here,

684
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: How you got here? You got here than.

685
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: Dollars?

686
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: You know what.

687
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 7: He definitely didn't got to He got to hundred million dollars,

688
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 7: she said.

689
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: Listening to the crazy either way, big big ups.

690
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And I don't take this

691
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: moment for granted. I don't take God put me in

692
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: this room right now with y'all.

693
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: We appreciate having absolutely, you know what I'm saying.

694
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: So so man, you speak about random and not to

695
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: stay on this, but how did how did mister Michael

696
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: his death impact you?

697
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up. That's interesting. I had

698
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: lost my father, don't know if you know I lost

699
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: my father the day I buried my dad, the day

700
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: that we was like, what the day the day I

701
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: buried my father, the day they put him in the

702
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: crematory where they were that same day what I had

703
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: just left and I'm sitting in a restaurant because we're

704
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: all going to grab something to eat. My brother know

705
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: he was there, and I'm sitting there, I had just ordered.

706
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: My sister walks over to me with the phone and

707
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: goes like this, damn. And I was like, like, you

708
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, I can't process that right now,

709
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: because at first I thought it was a joke. I

710
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: thought it was like a hoax, because you know how

711
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: every now and again, there's always a.

712
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: Room kill us off.

713
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Thankfully they haven't done that

714
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: to me yet, But I don't know what it is,

715
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying I couldn't process it at the moment,

716
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: Like I literally could not process that at that moment.

717
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is how everybody was calling me, you know,

718
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: like sorry for your loss, sorry for and I'm thinking

719
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: they're talking about my dad, and they talking about Malcolm

720
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: because to them, what we represented was like the ultimate friendship, right,

721
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: This was something that even if even if they didn't know,

722
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: you know, the level of whatever, but to me, they

723
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: did think that. They thought we were best friends in

724
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: real life. So people were calling me saying that, and

725
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: you know, it was it was very weird. It was

726
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: very weird.

727
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: That was ran.

728
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: It was super random. And again another reminder another I mean,

729
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: I don't know all the details, you know, but I

730
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: think he was on vacation something. It was on vacation,

731
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: and I was like wow, And so my heart went

732
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: out to his family, like I felt like, man, I

733
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: can't imagine, Like I wouldn't want to, you know what

734
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I know his mother lost a son,

735
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, His daughter lost the father.

736
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: Like you know, their loss is nothing, you know, in

737
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: terms of him compared to you know what I mean?

738
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 4: Does it make sense what I felt more for them?

739
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: But I was also processing my own situation at.

740
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: That time, probably probably your old immortality in a lot

741
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: of ways.

742
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: Bro h.

743
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

745
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: How do you protect your identity outside of the characters

746
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: people love so much?

747
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: I don't try to protect it, to be quite honest

748
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: with you, You know, I can't. I can't. I can't speak

749
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: for people right, like, I don't. You know. It's like

750
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: when you see somebody like if I do a good

751
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: job and you start screaming, you know, if I played

752
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: a retardic character, excuse me. I can't say that. No one, right,

753
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, especially I'm saying man like, Yo, this the

754
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: world we live in right now is so crazy anyway.

755
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: If I play a character that makes you like hate me,

756
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: you see me on the street and you be like,

757
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, oh, did a great job.

758
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: I hate retarded people.

759
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, stop, no, no, no, I'm my point being.

760
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I was waiting for it.

761
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 3: It came.

762
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 9: No.

763
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 4: I think. I think. I don't make excuses, you know

764
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, I live my life and people

765
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: who know me, people who grew up with me, people

766
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: who know me know me. They know me like and

767
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: that's the difference. Like when I go on stage, right,

768
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: it's like, I'm so different even as a person, I'm

769
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: so different from Coal. I'm not the furthest I grew

770
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: up in. All I'm like, I'm not. I'm the furthest

771
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: thing from Coal you could possibly think of. And people

772
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 4: who know me know that. Sometimes people find out the hallway,

773
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like, because you know, but

774
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: I try to be as nice and as genuine as possible.

775
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I don't know if you've heard stories

776
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: about me or not, and I don't really care, you know,

777
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: but I know one thing is I'm always going to

778
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 4: be my authentic self, so you know. And it's it's

779
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: just one of those things where it's like I can't

780
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 4: live my life worried about what other people think or

781
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: how to separate that from that. My circle is my circle,

782
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like those who I care about,

783
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: those who care about me. That's the piece, that's where

784
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: I need the piece.

785
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 5: Mentally, what is it like when you play a character

786
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: like Cole and Cockroach and people only see you as

787
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: that for the first time, Like when you experience someone

788
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: who really doesn't in real life separate the two for

789
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: the first time. How is that for you mentally? Because

790
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 5: it's probably weird to experience like for the first time.

791
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: It still happens for the first time all the time,

792
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: like it happens every day. It happened in the park

793
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 4: a lot across the street, right. Really, it's just wild.

794
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: Like when people encounter me or encounter that, they think

795
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: you're that. So they're like, you know, and and then

796
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: And that's another reason why I started doing stand up too,

797
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 4: because it's like they gotta know. People need to know

798
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: who called pain is, you know what I'm saying, Like

799
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: they gotta understand that everything I did was just a

800
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: stepping stone for the next thing, right, But I was

801
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 4: called pain first, right, these characters, And that's what happens.

802
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: Sometimes you get stereotypes, you get stuck in some of

803
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: these iconic characters or whatever, like, and every big star

804
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 4: has gone through it, from Eddie Murphy to Sevester Saloon

805
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: or whoever. Rightly talking about.

806
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: God we're talking about right now.

807
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: No, it's but but honestly, I take it. I take

808
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 4: it with a grain of salt. I don't. I don't.

809
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: I don't get offended by it, right, I never right,

810
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm never offended by it because I feel like, that's

811
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Put me in a position to make

812
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: an impact. That's part of my that's part of my legacy, right,

813
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: that's part of my that's part of what my stomach

814
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: is going wild by the way I feel like when

815
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: you get put in position, right, when you've been blessed

816
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: with favor when you've been given a gift and you

817
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: share that gift because that's your And that was one

818
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: of the thing Timmy taught me. He was like, your

819
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: gift is not yours. My grandmother told me that your

820
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: gift thanks yours. You know, growing up in the South,

821
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: your gift is not yours. Your gift and your purpose

822
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: are tied together. And when you're living in that, you

823
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: know it and you don't take that for granted. So

824
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: when people who don't know me, that just goes, Oh,

825
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: I need I got more work to do. I got

826
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: more work to do. I got more work to do

827
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: because again, I was carall pain first. So now you

828
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: get to know who crawl Pain is. You come see

829
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: me on stage, You're like, Oh, he's pop pop, he's

830
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: a father, he's this that, And I can relate to

831
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: that shit because he's saying the wild shit that I

832
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: think that I never say out loud, or the thing

833
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: that I go through all the time. But I just never.

834
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 4: But I didn't know you went through that too. Yeah, yeah,

835
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: I got caught my dick in my hand. Yeah you

836
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, you know what

837
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, right, you know figuratively.

838
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Please shre So you got retarded people with dicks in

839
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: their hand, your man big, So.

840
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: When you got you gotta let go from the coffee show, right, Yes,

841
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: yes I did if yeah Jesus Christ.

842
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 4: Always have my dick in my hand. And I was

843
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: talking to this retarded girl. You know, I don't want

844
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: bells making cappuccinos all these white women in the room,

845
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: and I was like, what is this?

846
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: What's so funny? Though?

847
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Back then there was two things my dad used to

848
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: use an example of an example, I don't even know

849
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: if this is true. Uh, he used to talk about

850
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: a family member who didn't remove an earring. That's so,

851
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: that's why he didn't make the pros as a baseball player.

852
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: And you're not wanting to cut your hair on coffee show,

853
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: you know. But I don't even know if that's true.

854
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: It's not true. I told the story once before. I

855
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 4: told the story once before, and you know, I've only

856
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: so I don't do interviews a lot, so I've only

857
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: spoke about it one time. What happened was it was

858
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 4: the ball headed episode, remember that, the ballheaded episode. And

859
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: the guy who they had working as the barber, whoever

860
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: he was right. He hot combed my joint. He hot

861
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: combed it right to make it lay down so it

862
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: could fit under the ball wig excuse me. And we

863
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 4: didn't shoot in order. We shot like out of order,

864
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 4: so to speak. Right. And my hair they tried to

865
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: get it back didn't match from what we had shot earlier.

866
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: And you know, Bill had this thing about not you know,

867
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: natural hair and all of this other stuff like that

868
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: and all of this that and the other, and he

869
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 4: thought I did it, And I was like, I talk

870
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: to you man, you know, and I feel like there

871
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 4: was a lot more going on at that time, because

872
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: to be let go for something like that, what crowd

873
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: your hair back up?

874
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: No?

875
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he thought I did it. He thought like I

876
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: put a permitted or something. And I'm like, no, why

877
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: would I do that? Like that's crazy.

878
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: He's had a bad day that day.

879
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm trying to say. Like, I feel

880
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: like there was more going on to be let go

881
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: for something like that, and I just never spoke on it.

882
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: I never I let people run wild with all kinds

883
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: of stories for years. I don't care, But you know,

884
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: why would I Like, that's the most arrogant thing for

885
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: me I won't cut my hair, like that's the stupidest

886
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: thing ever. Of course I cut my head. They got

887
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: it involved for real. But that's what happened.

888
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: Wow, And he thought I did it.

889
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: He thought I did it, and I was like, no, sir,

890
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: that's not what happened. I spoke after that.

891
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: I heard about that too. You cursed him out.

892
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Well, I mean because he was cursed he

893
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 4: was you listen, I thought you don't curse.

894
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 9: D Yeah.

895
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: No, look, look it was you know, he's a very

896
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 4: interesting man. Let's just say that he's a very interesting man. Sometimes.

897
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: You know, people like ketchup when it's cold. I like

898
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: it when it's warm. I don't like to put my

899
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: ketchup in refrigerator.

900
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: So it was the conversation about you fired me to

901
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: cut my head with how how was it and what

902
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: was it? How far after was that?

903
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it was it was a very

904
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: in the moment thing that happened. That was kind of

905
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: you know it was it was. It was very high energy,

906
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 4: high intense at the time because it was ridiculous. And

907
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 4: then you know, uh, sometime later, so i'm again and

908
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: you know, you had some very wild things to say

909
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: then too, you know, which was interesting. I'm like, oh, okay,

910
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: so Jello pudding pops is just a commercial to act.

911
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it. But you know, again,

912
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: I don't talk about old stuff. I don't talk about

913
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: things that just is, you know, because I feel like this,

914
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: there's a blessing in everything. Everything that happens happens for

915
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: a reason. And so what that did was at that time,

916
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: it opened my eyes to a lot of things in

917
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: terms of this industry, how it can be, things that

918
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 4: can happen if you built for this type of thing,

919
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But it also like sometimes

920
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: when you're being rejected, you're really just being redirected. That's right,

921
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, so at

922
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: the time, you don't see that. At the time, you're

923
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 4: just like devastated or whatever the case may be. And again,

924
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: as I've gone on in life, and I've been asked

925
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: about this a million times, I'm not I'm never gonna

926
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: on disparage another man his name, regardless of regardless of

927
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: how I feel about it, regardless to whatever happened. Then,

928
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: you know, because I feel like things that happened at

929
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: that time was that time. I can't speak for somebody

930
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: else's mental capacity or whatever they're going through. I can't

931
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: speak for nobody else, and I'm not going to speak

932
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: disparingingly on somebody else. It happened, it was what it was.

933
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: I did what I did. I didn't do that, and

934
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: my life continued to prosper. You know what I'm saying.

935
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: I was a part of I've been a part of

936
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: some great things.

937
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: Classic, classic, you.

938
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. And so therefore I already know

939
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: God got his hand on me. You know, He's got

940
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: something for me. I'm still here, I'm still doing my thing.

941
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: So we got your last question about that. That's your

942
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: first offense.

943
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 4: On as far as I knew, that's crazy.

944
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

945
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Like, as far as I knew, I never got like

946
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: warnings about anything. I never got nothing.

947
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: But there are always stories about that being like a

948
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: really tight ship. Like I always hard to say about

949
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 5: the Lisa Bonet firing because they didn't want to write

950
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 5: her pregnancy into the show, and.

951
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: Like listen, I was so not into none of that.

952
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: Like honestly, I was just a kid having a ball. Yeah,

953
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying I was a hood star,

954
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I was. I was

955
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 4: on a number one show in America, having having great

956
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 4: time and just and just like I saw the interview

957
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: that you guys did with him, and you know, the

958
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: narrative that somebody else may have created or tried to. Yeah, yeah,

959
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: like I was never jealous of him. It's not it's

960
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: not my pedigree. I was. Look when you raised in Harlem,

961
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: when you come from service, when you see another man shining,

962
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: you be like, what's up? You see somebody pull up

963
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: and a whip, be like, yeah, yeah, catch me on Saturday.

964
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: IM gonna have mine too, you know what I mean?

965
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: Like I was never envious or I was super happy

966
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: and thankful to be a part of the show on

967
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: a whole just in general, you know what I mean.

968
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I was thinking back on the question

969
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: that you was asking. I think everything just happens for

970
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: a reason.

971
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense now if there's a narrative

972
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: that you're jealous of somebody.

973
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the opportunity to get.

974
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: You out of course, of course, But you see what

975
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you're you're always the last to know

976
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 4: about that. Now, think about it. I don't know. I'm

977
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: sure this has happened to everybody in this room in

978
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: their career. When you're doing you and you're living life

979
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: just being you, someone else is always going to feel

980
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: some sort of way about that, especially if it's not

981
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: their life. Right. Sometimes they see a light in you.

982
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes they see something in you that they want. I'm

983
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: pretty sure you've been called arrogant, cocky, and all these

984
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: different things. But it's your confidence. And a lot of

985
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 4: times confidence comes off as that. You know. It's specially

986
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: to some people who may be a little insecure or

987
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: not or whatever. And I'm not speaking on nobody in specific,

988
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm just speaking in general, and in this business, in

989
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 4: this industry, you have to be, like Mike Epster said

990
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 4: in his special, he was delusional, right, So think about

991
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: all of us. You gotta be a little delusional. You

992
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: gotta be a little cocky to think that you're gonna

993
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: beat out one hundred hundred other people for a role, right,

994
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: to think that you're gonna make it. Out of everybody

995
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: on the planet, you're gonna make it. You're gonna be

996
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 4: the one. You have a little bit of that energy,

997
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to have a little bit, and you're

998
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 4: gonna carry yourself sometimes with that energy, especially if you

999
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 4: if it's coming from a place of this is God,

1000
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: this ain't. But others don't recognize that, right, and so

1001
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: sometimes it gets misconstrued or mistaken. And again, you're always

1002
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: the last to know how someone feels about you. You're

1003
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: always the last to know.

1004
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: Malcolm said in that interview though, that you guys have

1005
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 5: gotten too a good place and y'all were having better

1006
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 5: like adult own conversation.

1007
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 3: Look audio if you want to play I had the audio.

1008
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Are you're still cool with cockroach?

1009
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 4: Hilarious?

1010
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 8: Of course cooler And we're cooler as adults than we

1011
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 8: were during that time.

1012
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: You and yeah, that's what it was.

1013
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 8: The original callbacks for Cosby, they flew in an actor

1014
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 8: from Chicago and flew in an actor from New York.

1015
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 8: Carl was the actor they flew in from New York.

1016
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 8: So had I not auditioned for the show, Carl would

1017
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 8: have played THEO so get you every.

1018
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: Day and see you took my part and then I

1019
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: got to come back and play your best friend.

1020
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 8: So you know, I think on one hand that was

1021
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 8: part of it. And he just had he had a

1022
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 8: huge ego. You know, Yeah, he had a huge ego.

1023
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 8: So and I didn't come from that kind of place.

1024
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 8: The way I felt then and the way I feel now,

1025
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 8: you know, based on my career. If anybody, you know,

1026
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 8: should walk around with a huge ego, it.

1027
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Should be me.

1028
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 8: And if I don't roll like that, I don't really

1029
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 8: I have very little tolerance for people roll like that.

1030
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 8: You really, we just never really got along back then.

1031
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 8: But you know, we're grown now and you and Carl

1032
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 8: has been through a lot, like his journey is you know,

1033
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 8: it's been you know, he's had the journey as adults.

1034
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 8: We've been able to like sit down and have conversations

1035
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 8: and we're in a very cool grown man place now.

1036
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: That's good.

1037
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one. I mean, I think it's interesting some

1038
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: of the things that he said.

1039
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: That's that's water. This is just water, regular water.

1040
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 7: That's a crazy when they like.

1041
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: That's water the bikers and stuff. So but they can't

1042
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: have regular water, so they make their own water. For

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: the same time.

1044
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: If you don't believe it, I'm just like, you know,

1045
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: you have to ask that question.

1046
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: On the said of the College show. It's just water.

1047
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Wow stop, Oh my.

1048
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 4: God, Oh my God, No, I think it's interesting. I

1049
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: think it's interesting. Like I said, yeah, we we you know,

1050
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: we were kids, man, we were kids. It was the eighties.

1051
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: You know, different time, different time, different energy. We come

1052
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: from two different places, you know, Like I said, people

1053
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: don't you don't always mesh, you don't always understand, you know,

1054
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: when you got different energies and things of that nature.

1055
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I think some of the

1056
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: word choices he chose was very interesting to say, like,

1057
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: you know, in terms.

1058
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: Of like.

1059
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: What way he felt. I guess at that time that

1060
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 4: he felt like he should have been the cocky one,

1061
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: or he should have been the ego, the one with

1062
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: the ego, or whatever the case may be, and and

1063
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: and tolerable and those kind of words and things of

1064
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: that nature. Is it's very interesting. But again, all right,

1065
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: who were kids? Who were kids? You know what I'm saying.

1066
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: But again I never ever had any type of And

1067
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: people who know me, people who around back then, they

1068
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: know I was had no no hatred in terms of

1069
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: somebody else's success. I was happy to be a part

1070
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: of that joint, glad to be a.

1071
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: Part of it.

1072
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: Bless you kidding me. And I worked for it. I

1073
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: didn't just it wasn't handed to me, like I literally

1074
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: had the audition for over the over the year following

1075
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: that I had the audition for the part of the boyfriend.

1076
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: This the that I kept auditioning back to back, over

1077
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: and over and over again for all these other roles,

1078
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: including that one, and then when that one came along,

1079
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: I just happened to. I guess my persistent inconsistency paid

1080
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: off in terms of that. But yeah, yeah not. But

1081
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: then you know, you grow up and you start seeing, Okay,

1082
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: we was kids back then. You know whatever that was.

1083
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: I don't even know what that was, right, You go,

1084
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 4: what was that? And you see somebody else doing good

1085
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: and you're like, okay, you're a father. Now I'm a father.

1086
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: We all it's yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like

1087
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: it to me, it's kids stuff, right, whatever happens. Like

1088
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: then that's why I say when I do interviews or

1089
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: talk about things, it's like, why are we talking about

1090
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: something that happens? If you know, coworkers and brothers, brothers fight,

1091
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: family fights, they don't get along, and it you've got

1092
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: family members who never speak to each other again because

1093
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: they're nigga in spades. They can't even come because that

1094
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: nigga still mad about dumb stuff. Man, I don't have

1095
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: time for that. My life, man, I don't I love everybody.

1096
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: I got a couple more questions. But what role taught

1097
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: you the most about yourself is as a man? Mhm

1098
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: our role, our environment?

1099
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 4: What role or environment taught me the most about myself?

1100
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: The role of life m the role of life, brother,

1101
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 4: the role of life. Every day, there's no because everything

1102
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: I do in terms of those characters, I put my

1103
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: real life into it in some way aspect or another.

1104
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: But life is always the best teacher, you know. Being

1105
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: the role of a father, being the role of a grandfather,

1106
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 4: being the role of a husband, being the role all

1107
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: these different things. That's that's you know, your family man, right,

1108
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: your family man. You know, There's always gonna be something

1109
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: that humbles you. There's always gonna be something that makes

1110
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: you appreciate what you know, what you have, what you

1111
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: don't have, all of the above, and then you can

1112
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 4: take those life experiences and throw them into your comedy.

1113
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: You can throw them into a character.

1114
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1115
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: H It's easier sometime, like I said earlier, when you're

1116
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 4: when you're playing a character because even though it's your

1117
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: face is still a mask. It's still like, you know

1118
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, It's like you're you're really pouring into

1119
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: something else. But when you're on stage, you're not saying, Hey,

1120
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm up here representing Jess hilarious. I'm not Jess. I'm

1121
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: just Jess, right, you know, Yeah.

1122
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 6: And you're That brings me to Young Dylan because I

1123
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 6: me and my son watch it together, right, and.

1124
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 4: So that was my favorite.

1125
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: That's my favorite.

1126
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 4: That's not my favorite, all.

1127
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 6: Right, because I wanted to answer the question for you

1128
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: when he asked you that, but it's not my interview.

1129
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 6: But I was like, I feel like the role of

1130
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 6: the dad that you play in Young Dylan is more

1131
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: so who you resonate with.

1132
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 7: Now because you are pop up, you are the father.

1133
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 6: You're showing that you're also also teaching young Dylan the

1134
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: way of life, you know what I mean, and being

1135
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 6: his dad.

1136
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: So like I was a perfect role. That was a

1137
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: perfect role at the perfect time. Like it's like I

1138
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: would really didn't have to do no work, you know

1139
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and not do that anyway, Like I

1140
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 4: go around the country speaking to kids, you know, I'm

1141
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: very big on mental health. I'm very big on taking

1142
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: up the torch where Tommy left off in terms of

1143
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 4: just talking to the youth and trying to get them

1144
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: to understand. Not trying to get to understand, but passing

1145
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 4: along my knowledge, passing along my game, anything that could

1146
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: help them change their lives. Like I've had other communities,

1147
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: I had people come up to me and say, like

1148
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: Billy Sorells for example, right, He was like, do you

1149
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: know I became a comedian and an actor because of you?

1150
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: I said, what do you mean? He said, you came

1151
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: to my school. I was in the third grade. Wow,

1152
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 4: he said, and you spoke to me, pulled me aside,

1153
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, and stuff like that.

1154
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 4: Stuff like that, or guys in jail talking about they

1155
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 4: were able to get through it. You know what I'm saying.

1156
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: Somebody was like, I was gonna kill myself, but then

1157
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 4: I started watching It's like, so that tells me that

1158
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 4: I'm on the right path that God has, like I said,

1159
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: blessed me giving me a craft that ties into my purpose,

1160
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: which is about changing lives. Laughter is healing, right, And

1161
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: if I can use this platform or any other platform

1162
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: to heal somebody, to be able to change somebody, make

1163
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: an impact, a positive impact. To me, that's legacy, that's success,

1164
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: to be able to affect people's lives positively. Right, starting

1165
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: with your own core at home, starting with your family,

1166
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: and then then I did my job.

1167
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: You just answered my last question and it's all said

1168
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: and done. How do you want your contribution to the

1169
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: game to be remembered?

1170
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: Said it just that you know, I did my thing,

1171
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: I did my thing thing, and I left a positive

1172
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: impact on the world. And because I said that when

1173
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: I started, when I first started out, the thing that

1174
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 4: made me want to do this my father, my weird family,

1175
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: My father has had a very positive and no, it's

1176
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 4: all positive. It's all positive because sometimes when things happen

1177
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: to you, like you said, when you get fired or

1178
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 4: you get let.

1179
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 3: Go fired four time.

1180
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: But I'm saying you would just be reindirected, right. I

1181
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: think there was an incident that happened when I was

1182
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: a kid, and this be in my book and in

1183
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: my one man show, so I can't give it to

1184
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: you right here, but something happened and I swore when

1185
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 4: I was when I was in my bedroom because they

1186
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: were growing up in the projects in Harlem. It was different.

1187
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: It was different, different, And I remember we were doing

1188
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: these reports and they had us looking at the obituaries.

1189
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: Why would you tell a young black man to do

1190
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: a report? Want an obituary? And so I'm looking at

1191
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: this obituary and I'm seeing everything that I see around

1192
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: me in real life, and I'm looking at this obituary

1193
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 4: and I'm being surrounded by all of this and it's

1194
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: just like at the back of the Daily News, I said,

1195
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 4: you know what, I want to do something. One day,

1196
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: I said, no, I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna do

1197
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: something that's gone mean something. I'm gonna do something with

1198
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: my life. It's gonna mean something. In my name is

1199
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 4: gonna stand for something. I'm not gonna be a blurb

1200
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 4: on the back of the Daily I'm not. I'm gonna

1201
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: make a difference and I'm gonna do something and everybody's

1202
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: gonna remember my day.

1203
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: You did that.

1204
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely yo, Okay, check it out.

1205
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: Now we're time for that for all the other stuff.

1206
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: Right comedy in Harlem, gotta come see me this week. Comedy.

1207
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm this is a New York takeover. I know we did,

1208
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: you know we had the most somber interview I've ever

1209
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 4: had in my life. Comedy in Harlem. You know that's

1210
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: going down Friday. It's a New York takeover comedy and

1211
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: Harlem on Friday. Te Breezy T Breezy Entertainment. Where we

1212
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 4: at Saturday Saturday? The fourteen keep saying Friday, Saturday, No, no, no.

1213
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: No, no Friday.

1214
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: I'm in Comedy Hall Saturday Saturday. Where were at Jersey

1215
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: Love Yeah, Jersey Comedy Show.

1216
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: We got to Ray Rudy Delay. We got a whole bunch,

1217
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1218
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm the surprise surprise over.

1219
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the guest host. I'm the guest host.

1220
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: For the for the weekend there and then Sunday. Yo,

1221
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm starting to do these things around. First of I'm

1222
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 4: getting ready on tour, so everybody go to go to

1223
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: my page. I'm gonna give it to y'all to so

1224
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: you can see because I'm get ready to do my

1225
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 4: one man show and it's coming to Broadway. Wow wow.

1226
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1227
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: Because I love John, I love Whoopy Goldberg like I

1228
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 4: love to where I can put my acting skills with

1229
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: the comedy. But take you on this whole journey, you

1230
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: know with this says I love that.

1231
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: Nobody did that. I haven't seen one Sin's Tyson Tyson did.

1232
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm doing. So just understand what's about

1233
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: to happen. Your boys about to take it there. Understand

1234
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen there. So yeah, I'm gonna give you

1235
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: all the dates for being on tour. But I'm also

1236
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 4: starting this other Uh, everybody started doing these little bingo joints.

1237
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: You've been doing the little bingo thing.

1238
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: I've been seeing them a lot more. Yeah.

1239
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing one on Sunday. I'm doing a bingo

1240
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: brunch Martin Trivia Bingo Brunch on Sunday in Brooklyn where

1241
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: we're at Kirk Captain Kirk one thousand Broadway and doing

1242
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: I'm at your spot the mall. American Dream. Yeah, next week, next.

1243
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: Week, what you're doing then?

1244
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ain't call you about that black stuff no more.

1245
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do my rendition of

1246
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: the halftime Super Bowl show.

1247
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm doing that. Yeah, I'm doing them all.

1248
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: What's American Dream, American Dream Mom, I'm doing that next

1249
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: week the nineteenth.

1250
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 6: Well, what I want to say, is I love you

1251
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: and I appreciate you because I love you too, Jess.

1252
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 6: I grew up watching you, and I never thought that

1253
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 6: I would. You don't think when you watch something else TV,

1254
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 6: you will grow up and meet them one day, right.

1255
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 6: And then I grew up watching you, and then you

1256
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 6: came to my show and you watched me and you

1257
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 6: laughed because I'm funny nigga.

1258
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: So I love you. I appreciate you. But you know

1259
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: why I came, and I appreciate you too, you know.

1260
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 4: You know why I came because I saw something in you.

1261
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 4: I saw something in you like I would see you online,

1262
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: and you know, and you know how it is like

1263
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: like every everything now is like it's different, different, That's

1264
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 4: all I gotta say. And as I'm studying the game

1265
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: and studying people, I'm like, and you know, you're like, Okay,

1266
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 4: who am I gonna team up with one day?

1267
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: Right?

1268
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: And and does she have it? Because you see a

1269
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: lot of these internet comedians and a lot of casts

1270
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: that was just blowing up on the Internet. They couldn't

1271
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 4: hold the hour. They couldn't hold it, you know. And

1272
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not hating on nobody, So I'm gonna

1273
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 4: go see if you could do it. And I came

1274
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: and she delivered and killed and I was like, she

1275
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: get busy. That's what I'm talking about. And I think

1276
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 4: it's too. I think too, because you saw it too right,

1277
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 4: You studied it, you you respected the craft, you respected

1278
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: the art. I think I saw that in you and

1279
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: your your your mad talented, you're mad, funny. Congratulations, You're

1280
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: right where you're supposed to be. You're on your way.

1281
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: You out of here. You real then you have called

1282
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 4: Anthony Payne the second. We appreciate you for joining us.

1283
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: I brought you some stuff. What's the website, man? What's

1284
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: the website?

1285
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: Man? Where's the website?

1286
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: The blackest ever heard of my life? Right there?

1287
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 4: You know, listen, listen, No, it's not yo.

1288
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: What's the website calling Anthony Payne?

1289
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 4: Call It's called Anthony Payne Entertainment, called Anthony Paint entertaining,

1290
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: called any paint in the same man, T Breezy entertainment,

1291
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: Uh Lauren L Russe, Charlamagne, the God South Carolina Boys

1292
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: in the building, d J. Yes, sir, brother, white boy

1293
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: behind the boards.

1294
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: I can't say like I said.

1295
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: His eyes and I can't I can't see It's like

1296
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: he's like that what was that show when the guy

1297
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: with the fence. I can't I can't even see you.

1298
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 4: I can't even you. Man, come back, my bad sir,

1299
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: to my bad sir.

1300
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: Hold up every day a week, pack your glass up,

1301
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: the breakfast club.

1302
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: You finish for y'all. Done.

1303
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: I