1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: voter number seveny Rob Parker. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker. What 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: a show we have for you. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Former major league outfielder Mike Cameron jumps in. We'll talk 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: with him about some happenings in Major League Baseball. Also 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: Sam Blom, who covers the Angels for The Athletic. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: He'll stop by with a huge injury report on that. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: Team, plus foul or fair all that is happening. 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Let's go. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Better up to lead off it's getting robbed and keep 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: him on. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Number one, call me crazy, call me with sugar enough. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: But if you're the Angels, with everything that's transpired, the injuries, 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: trout out for the next six to eight weeks, I'm 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: telling you you gotta trade o'tany I know it's not popular, 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: guys having an unbelievable year, an MVP type season, But 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: if he's not gonna resign with you. 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: You can't let this guy walk. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: The Angels are snake bit they got all these injuries. 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: The chance of them making the playoffs, even with old 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: Toanni having an MVP season, just are not good. So 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: what's the purpose of holding on to him and finish 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: out of the playoffs. It makes no sense if he's 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: not gonna be there. Appreciate the time that you had 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: when he was there and the memories, but you have 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: to think about the future. You can't live in the past. 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: If you're the Angels, you have to trade show Hayl Tani. 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you heard me say it. 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Trade him number two. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: Say it isn't so really, Yankee fan, I get it. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: The Orioles are in front of the Yankees and the 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 3: standings coming into Wednesday, and Baltimore is now hated by 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: the Bronx faithful but to boo Aaron Hicks and his 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: return to the Bronx, especially during the dedication video that 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: they had like they had a nice little video for 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: his career in New York. 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: And they booed some of that. 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: They bowed when he came up to bat, and then 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Aaron Hicks wound up hitting a home run, which was 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: nice for a little revenge. But he didn't ask to 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: be released by the Yankees, and I get it. He 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: was struggling, scoffling, wasn't hitting. Finally the Yankees released him 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: and he went to Baltimore, and guess what, he found 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: his bat again and has been hitting like crazy for 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: the Orioles. 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: So maybe Yankee fans. 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: Are mad that he did find his head his hitting shoes, 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: but unfortunately they were in Baltimore and not in New York. 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: But I thought that was wrong. 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: I get there, you might not like the Orioles and 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: then being in first in second place ahead of the Yankees. 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: But to boo Aaron Hicks, who's been a great guy 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: for a long time, that that was not good. 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Number three. 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Did you see what happened when the Cubs and Brewers 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: played on the fourth of July. 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: Somehow, some way, late in the game, the Brewers closed 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: the roof. 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: On the stadium, to the chagrin of Cubs manager David Ross. 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: He was really mad and upset and didn't understand why 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: they would start the game at American Family Field, which 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: has a retractable roof, and they had it open to start, 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: and then they decide to close the roof late in 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: the game. And if you go look at the rule 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: book when it talks about tractable roofs, if you start 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: the game when it closed, it's supposed to stay closed. 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: If you start with the with the it open, it's 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: supposed to stay open unless there's inclement weather that you're 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: trying to prevent. There was no bad weather in Milwaukee. 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense. I mean, it didn't help the 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: Brewers win the game. The clubs still won the game, 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: but I don't understand it, Like, like, what is the protocol? 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: Stick to the rules. The Brewers shouldn't be playing games. 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: Leave the roof either open or close, and let it go. 80 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: And you know what, David Ross, you had a right 81 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: to be mad and a right to complain because it 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: just didn't make any sense. 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Here comes the big interview. Listen and learn. 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: It's so good, all right, now, let's welcome in former 85 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 3: major league outfielder Mike Cameron, who hit almost three hundred 86 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: home runs in his major league career broken with the 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: White Side to nineteen ninety five, was an All Star, 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: three time Goal Glove Award winner, and the thing most 89 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: people remember about Mike Cameron he won shit four home 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: runs in a single game back in two thousand and 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: to Mike, Welcome to the podcast. 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: How are you Rob? 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: Thanks? Thanks for having me man, It's always going to 94 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: be no doubt. 95 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time and your energy. Let's start here. 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: So many things. 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Now, You're going to Seattle, of course, the All Star 98 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Game is next Tuesday night, the Derby's on Monday. All 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: kinds of other events happening over the weekend, and you're 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: involved big time. Tell us what you'll be doing in 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: Seattle for All Star week. 102 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I think I'm in the biggest 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: thing is the Futures Game, So I'll get a chance 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: to interact with the future, maybe cross paths, you know, 105 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: share stories, share experiences, and really just enjoyed to see 106 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 5: what's going to transpire with a lot of these guys. 107 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 5: So I think, uh, with that, you know, right after 108 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: that game of the Futures Game, I'm moving right into 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 5: doing the Celebrity Softball Game, and uh that's on Saturday night. 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: I think maybe yeah, Saturday night. 111 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: And then right after that, I think I'm going into 112 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: doing I'm getting an award for the Players Alliance, which 113 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: I was totally unexpected. I had no idea that I 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: was gonna be a part of that. But I'm very 115 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: grateful that them recognizing me and Randy Uh let's see 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: uh King griv jr uh, Dave Sims and obviously the 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 5: young guy that's there, JP Crawford. 118 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be some event. I will be there 119 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: with the MLB bro dot com. So I'm looking forward 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: to that. That's an awesome honor. That should be a 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: fun night Sunday night. 122 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: Uh there in c Let's talk about a couple of 123 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: things in baseball. There's a couple of things that are 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: interesting to me. 125 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: You know, I guess as a as a outfielder and 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: hit her and whatever. To see show hail tany in 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: the year he's had. What do you marvel at this? 128 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: That a guy can pitch every fifth day and be 129 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: a DH and be as good as he's been. 130 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: Is Rob It's amazing, It's unbelievable. Not only is he's 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: doing both like he's. 132 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: Excelling, he's the top Like he's doing it like he's 133 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: the top hitter in the American League right now. In there, 134 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: he's very I guess he's you know, top five, top 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: ten as a pitcher. But the dominance that he's been 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: able to show, like on both ends and be able 137 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: to endure this over the course of a major league 138 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: season is amazing. I don't even understand how you can 139 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 5: get to do that. You know, that's something the things 140 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 5: that we used to do about ten eleven twell, you 141 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 5: can go both ways, you can do both. 142 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: Do both or whatever. 143 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: But to the level and extent that he's doing it, 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: I've never seen baby Lue play. I never saw like 145 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: some of the old negro Les guys that was able 146 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: to do something like this, But like, this is amazing 147 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 5: at this particular point you know in the game. Him 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: being able to do this type of the work, it's crazy. 149 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: You know, We've had guys travel for sicks, you know, 150 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: a couple other guys I think that's trying to do it. 151 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: But this level of it is is unbelievable. 152 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: And the only thing crazier Mike is he's probably going 153 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: to sign a contract for five or six hundred million. 154 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: Dollars if it goes really long, it's going to be 155 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: for six don't know the years, right, what you're gonna get? 156 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, literally right, definitely. I mean he's twenty nine years old. 157 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 5: He just turned twenty nine two days, so it's going 158 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: to be at least I don't know where you. 159 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: Going to how you judge it. 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 5: I don't even know where you go to get a 161 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: barometer as far as like giving him a contract, but 162 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: whatever you give him, you'll get it back in the 163 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 5: first two or three years, as long as he continues 164 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: to have the dominance that he's had, as he's been 165 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: displaying like right now, it's crazy, really crazy. 166 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. 167 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: And he's of course all the fans in Japan they 168 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: love baseball, they love this guy. I mean, you will. 169 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: I'm with you. You'll make your money back. So there it is. 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: Our guest is Mike Cameron. He joins us here on 171 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: inside the park of the former Major League outfielder who 172 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: also played for the Mets, the Padres, the Brewers, the 173 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: Red Sox, the Marlins, and the Cincinnati Reds as well 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: early on in his career. But let me go here 175 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: the changes in baseball. We saw the pitch clock, which 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: I didn't think would be as dramatic as it has been, 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: and I like it now. To pace it again is better. 178 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: I love the idea that you can shift, Mike used 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: to Guys would hit the ball straight up the middle 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: and there would be. 181 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: The third basement standing there taking away hits. Right. 182 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: But the one thing I want to ask you about 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: is the stolen bases, which is crazy. I mean, at 184 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: one point at the start of the season, guys were 185 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: stealing bases at an eighty three percent clip, and now 186 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: Ronald Lacuna has twenty one home runs and forty stolen 187 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: bases coming into Wednesday. I mean, you know there's a 188 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: pizza box out at second base. Yeah, and you're a 189 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: little closer from first base. Is it a little foolgazy 190 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: or or not with the stolen bases because the bases 191 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: are so big. 192 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: Definitely, Rob I think making the bases bigger and never understood. 193 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: That if you want to protect somebody from injury at 194 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: first base with some of the collisions over there, just 195 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: you know, I would say make that one bigger from 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 5: the backs out of the base. 197 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: But I didn't think that. 198 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: You know, there's not enough injuries that take place at 199 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: first base for that needn happen. And then you you're, 200 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: you're you make the pictures to where they can't only 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: they can only throw over twice and if they throw 202 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: a third time, you have to get the runner out, 203 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: so and then you got the catchers on one knee. 204 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 5: So all the sizes of guys that can run are 205 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: definitely in their favor. Now, I do think it's it 206 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 5: kind of disrupts the books a little bit because those 207 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 5: guys like Ricky Henderson and Lou Brock and Tim Rainz uh. 208 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: You know, some of these guys had to work differently 209 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: where you know, they're limiting the picture to his to 210 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: be able to defend against the run. So the guys 211 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: that can run and understand how the steal bases are 212 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: taking advantages. 213 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: Its big time. 214 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: But you know, to their credit, man like that, the guys, 215 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 5: the teams that have guys that can run and the 216 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: guys that can actually steal bags, they are taking advantage 217 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 5: of a big time. 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 4: And I think it's gonna be you know, I. 219 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: Think it's gonna have a little bit of obscurity on 220 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: the obscure as far as like what the art and 221 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: craft are stealing bags from the Vince Coleman's, the Ricky 222 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 5: Anderson's and and uh, you know, and the Toner Temp, 223 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 5: Tim Rings and those gays. 224 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: So it's definitely definitely makes a big difference. It definitely 225 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: makes a big difference. 226 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: No doubt you played. I was mentioned some of the 227 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: teams you played for. Which team is you are you 228 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: most surprised at how poorly they played? The Mets have 229 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: the biggest payroll in the history of baseball. You played there, 230 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 3: and the Padres. I mean, look at that lineup and 231 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: the players that are assemble now. They're playing a little 232 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: bit better lately, but still Padres and Mets. Do either 233 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: one of these teams make the playoffs or do they 234 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: rally in the second half. 235 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 5: It's gonna be really hard, especially for the stuff to 236 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: speak speak of the Mets. First, Mets are playing. You know, 237 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 5: you got three other teams that are playing very well 238 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 5: in their division. You know, Atlanta's on top, and then 239 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 5: you got Philly and then you have the Marrows that 240 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 5: are playing very well. So you got to try to 241 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: jump some of those teams. And I think their biggest, 242 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 5: you know, their biggest, uh, biggest guys which are pitching 243 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: with they winch heavy top rotation pitching, or just haven't 244 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: really done it very. 245 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: Well, but they're very capable of doing it turning around. 246 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: But offensively, I don't know you know, they got four 247 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: or five guys that are just kind of like in 248 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: a funk. And when you're that many games back in 249 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: teams like Phillies are playing well, the Marlins are playing well, 250 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: and obviously the Braves are just being down. 251 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: Everybody. 252 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: Uh, it's really tough to put yourself in that situation. 253 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: So you know, you just got to be able to 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 5: continue to strive and be better in a sense offensively, 255 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: which you can't really force, can't create anything, and you know, 256 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: so they just gonna have to just try to continue 257 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 5: to build each and every every game, every series. They 258 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 5: go out knowing that these other teams are playing good 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 5: baseball loss and the stitch wish of the San Diego 260 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: Padre is you know, some of those guys are just 261 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: coming back. You know, these guys are just coming back. 262 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: They're playing a much better brand of baseball I think, 263 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 5: you know, getting Tatis back in that lineup and them 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: being able to start to you know, figure out some 265 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: lineup construction over there, and some of the younger the 266 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: guys in the bottom of the lot being able to 267 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: start producing a little bit. That helps because they definitely 268 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: have to pitch it. Also, I don't know what kind 269 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: of ball pen they have, but they definitely, they definitely 270 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 5: have the talent to be able to jump. I don't 271 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 5: think that jump is as big as or as you know, 272 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: large at the New York Mets. So they're going to 273 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: be in the race. I think that, you know, they 274 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: continue to play a little bit. 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: Better here and there. 276 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 5: The West is a lot more I feel like, a 277 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: lot easier challenge than it is to do it in 278 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: the East, for sure. 279 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: Lot's two things for you. Your son, Dads, who's in 280 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Oriols organization. I know he played with the 281 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: Tigers some last year. How's he doing and did we 282 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: expect him to help? 283 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's doing well. 284 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: He's actually having his you know, his first season in 285 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 5: a while where he's very healthy. He's been playing consistently 286 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: over there with some of those top one hundred guys 287 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: and obviously one of them just got caught on the 288 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: day in Colton Calsen, So he's getting a playing time 289 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: that he need. I just don't know, I personally don't 290 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: feel like it's the best situation for him, But at 291 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: the moment, this is the situation for him to continue. 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: To strive and be better. But he's having a really 293 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: good season. 294 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: He's playing center field a lot, and hopefully that he 295 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: can continue to do that through this first half and 296 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: continue to play better so he can put himself in 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: a situation where a team needs an outfielder like himself. 298 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: But the biggest thing is he's getting a chance to 299 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: play every day and he's putting up numbers, and he's 300 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: on a really good team over there with a lot 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 5: of talent. So that means you've got to elevate your 302 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: game to be a part of what's what's transpiring at 303 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: the moment. 304 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,479 Speaker 2: All right, well, we appreciate you as always. Thanks a lot, Mike, stay. 305 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Rob. I appreciate it. Brother. 306 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: It's time for the pocket protector centrum. The analytic numbers 307 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: you need to know? 308 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: Well, maybe Anthony Masterson is his name, BS, analytics is 309 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: his game. 310 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: What do you got for me, Anthony? 311 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 6: What's that old saying the best ability is availability. It 312 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 6: seems like we've been hearing a lot about injured stars recently, 313 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: including two thirds of the starting ale outfield in the 314 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: All Star Game and Aaron Judge and Mike Trout and 315 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 6: both of last year's All Star starting pitchers in Clayton 316 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 6: Kershaw and Shane McClanahan all now on the injured list. 317 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 6: It may not necessarily be a quantifiable skill, but staying 318 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 6: healthy is harder than it looks, especially in a long season. 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: You look at the list of healthiest teams in baseball 320 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 6: this season, i e. The fewest games miss due to 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 6: I elstons, and it's all teams vying for playoff spots. 322 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 6: The Guardians are the number one team in baseball in 323 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 6: this category for the second straight year, having only missed 324 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 6: a total of two hundred and eighty eight player games 325 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 6: due to injury. They're also the youngest team in baseball 326 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: for the second straight year. Who's to say there's any 327 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 6: correlation there. They're followed by the Orioles, Blue Jays, Mariners, 328 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 6: and Astros, all teams with October aspirations. On the other side, 329 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 6: the most injured teams are a who's who have high 330 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 6: payroll high expectation, but Seeds is not quite up to 331 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 6: standards as of yet. The Yankees have that nine hundred 332 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: and eighty four games missed to I Elston's, nearly seven 333 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 6: hundred more than the last place Guardians. They're followed by 334 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 6: the Dodgers, Brewers, and Mets also sitting in the top 335 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: five no surprise either, But the most money spent on 336 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 6: injured players, that'd be the Yankees over fifty one million, 337 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 6: followed by the Mets at thirty four million. It can't 338 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 6: win a title from the tub, so it's going to 339 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: take a healthy second half of some of these teams 340 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 6: to see their fortunes turn around. 341 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: That it was a big week in the big leagues. 342 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: Who's who's a five? 343 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: I believe? 344 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: Is it foul or is it fair? And now from 345 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: mlbdbro dot com, here's Jrgambo. 346 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: Luke Vod is a veteran slugger who started the year 347 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: miserably for Milwaukee and was designated for assignment in May. 348 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: But since being signed to a minor league deal by 349 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: the Mets in June, his power is picked up in 350 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: Triple A Syracuse and get this, he's mashing homers and 351 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: doing it sleeveless. Jr. Is it foul or fair to 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: say that luke Vod should be back in the MLB asap? 353 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: Fair? It's a fair ball. 354 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 7: Frank Howard and Greg Lozinski would be proud. The career 355 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 7: void has been a roller coaster ride. The height was 356 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 7: with the Yankees, with the career two fifty three hitter 357 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 7: with ninety five home jacked, sixty eight of those in 358 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 7: four seasons in the Bronx. In seven seasons with five 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 7: different clubs, Void has two hundred and seventy six RBI 360 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 7: in five hundred and eight games, so he's a run producer. 361 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 7: The Mets picked Voight up off the scrap heap after 362 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 7: he was designated for assignment on May twenty ninth. After 363 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 7: playing in twenty two games with the Milwaukee Brewers and 364 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 7: battings just two twenty one with no homers in sixty 365 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 7: eight at bats. The Mets, who could use some pop, 366 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 7: signed him to a minor league deal and sent him 367 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 7: to Triple A Syracuse on June twelfth. The thirty two 368 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: year old has attacked his minor league stint with the vengeance, 369 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 7: but he's not taking himself too seriously, even starting a 370 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 7: new fashion trend, taking it back to the sleeveless shirts. 371 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 7: It's a message saying I'm down here, but I'm not 372 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 7: built like you guys. I'm a different dude. The thing is, 373 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 7: he's the only one out there wearing those sleeveless jerseys, 374 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 7: and he's bombing and looking like the man amongst boys. 375 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 7: Voyce got six homers in seventy seven at bats and 376 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 7: a nine to ninety four ops. Bring back Luke Voight, 377 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 7: bring him back to MLB. He's already bringing back the 378 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: sleeveless jerseys and making that retro. 379 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: Work for him. The new slumpbuster, turn money into more money. 380 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Now it's time for betting on the basis with Dave Gascott. 381 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Love that money, Love that money. 382 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 8: Rob. 383 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 9: Happy for the July to you Brandon weekend of baseball. 384 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 9: It's upon us heart to believe. Of San Diego Padgers 385 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 9: and the New York Mets are both sub five hundred, 386 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 9: but the weekend festivities will take place in Petco Park 387 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 9: Friday Night. They'll get Justin Verlander. The Friars will in 388 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 9: that matchup. Both teams right now at least six games 389 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 9: under five hundred, But I'll take the Mets on Friday 390 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 9: Night's affair. Meanwhile, Rocky's in Giants Colorado nearly twenty games 391 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 9: under five hundred this season. I'll take San Francisco. There'll 392 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 9: be an odds on fair with heavy chalk in that contest. 393 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 9: Too hard to believe, But the New York Yankees are 394 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 9: in a dog fight. In the American League East because 395 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 9: of all the drama that's being filled between the Baltimore Orioles, 396 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 9: the Tampa Bay Rays, and of course the Toronto Blue Jays. 397 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 9: I'm gonna take the Yankees that are at home against 398 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 9: the Chicago Cubbies right now. Kubbies is not playing bad ball. 399 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 9: They are about five hundred six games under it as 400 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 9: it stands right now. But I'll take the Bronx Bombers 401 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 9: to win that game too. 402 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto, 403 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer 404 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: or broadcaster, old or new. 405 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: Now let's welcome into the podcast, Sam Blum, who covers 406 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the Angels for The Athletic Sam, Welcome to the program. 407 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: How are you. 408 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 10: I'm good, Rob, how are you? Thanks for having me? 409 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: No doubt better than the Angels. My god, yesterday was 410 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: an absolute disaster. Let's start with Mike Trout and the 411 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: broken bone. Give us the details and how long do 412 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: you expect him to be out? 413 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 8: You know, these handmade fractures can be a little bit 414 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 8: all over the map in terms of return time. You know, 415 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 8: I think we saw like Jose Ramirez come back within 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 8: like a month, but typically it will be longer than that. 417 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 8: I'm guessing probably six to eight weeks. It's probably a 418 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 8: more likely timeframe. Obviously, the Angels, like you just said, 419 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 8: are kind of in a really precarious situation and a 420 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 8: kind of a disaster right now and a lot of 421 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 8: guys getting hurt. 422 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 10: They're not playing very well. So if you know, if he's. 423 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 8: Not back until what could look like maybe September, maybe late. 424 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 10: August, that's that's an issues for him. 425 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 8: Obviously, it's one thing something they're gonna have to to 426 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 8: deal with pretty pretty quickly. They're gonna need other players 427 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 8: to kind of step up. But yeah, it's I'm guessing 428 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 8: about six eight weeks, and he's he's pretty beat up 429 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 8: about it. I mean, when Mike gets hurt, he's, uh, 430 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 8: you know, he's pretty you can tell it. 431 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 10: It eats at him. 432 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you know, I mean, this guy 433 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: came into the league, he's going to be the next 434 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: the greatest player who ever played, and the last i 435 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: don't know, three or four years has really been with 436 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: injuries and. 437 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: Has derailed all of that talk. 438 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the greatest players, but you 439 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: don't talk about him anymore because every year, Sam, it 440 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: seems like he gets hurt. 441 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that, like if you look 442 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 8: at the body of work over the course, especially like 443 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 8: that really that you know, first decade or so that 444 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 8: he was in the major leagues, I mean, the way 445 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 8: he performed, I think you can make a case that 446 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 8: was like one of the most dominant decades from a 447 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: player we've ever seen. And so I wouldn't say that 448 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 8: what he's the injuries he's had will take away from that. 449 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 8: But you're right that what you know when you look 450 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 8: at the overall number is when his career ends. I mean, 451 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 8: it's will take a hit based on these on these 452 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 8: these injuries obviously, and and you know, we have to 453 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 8: look at the future too. I mean, the Angels have 454 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 8: him locked up through twenty thirty at a you know, 455 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 8: about thirty five million dollars a year. So if you're 456 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 8: looking at this from a Trout and Angels perspective, I mean, 457 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 8: this has to be concerning his durability. I mean, this 458 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 8: is kind of a freak thing, but it's still it's 459 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 8: like you said it, injuries kind of mounts and whatever 460 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 8: the source of them are I mean, it's it's it's 461 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 8: an issue, especially since his numbers, even when he was 462 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 8: healthy this year were way down from what they have been. 463 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 8: You know, at his peak he was He's not hitting 464 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 8: fastballs in the same way, striking out way more and 465 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 8: as a result, pitchers are more more likely to. 466 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 10: Throw him strikes. As we've seen, he's not getting walk 467 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 10: nearly as much. 468 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 8: So he's just not having the year that I think 469 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 8: Mike Shrouwer kind of used to having. He's having a 470 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 8: good year and above average year for a regular player, 471 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 8: but that's not really his standard, and it's it's impacting 472 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 8: the Angels and obviously now he's out for a while. 473 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: Our guest is Sam Blom. He covers the Angels for 474 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: the Athletic Let's go to show hal Tani talk about 475 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: another one show. Hey left the game on Tuesday with 476 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: the blister. Not a great outing, you know, got hit around. 477 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: A little bit. 478 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 3: But what's the prognosis on show Hey and his blisters? 479 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: He gonna be all right. 480 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 8: And we should find it a little more here in 481 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 8: the next two hour or so. More specifically, on the blister, 482 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 8: he seems to think that it's possible it could impact 483 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 8: his hitting before the break. But I mean, this All 484 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 8: Star break really is coming at a good time. 485 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 10: I would say a good time. 486 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 8: It's coming out a pretty necessary time for them to 487 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 8: just get a couple of days off. 488 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 10: I mean, they've had so many guys here. 489 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 8: We're talking about Mike and no Tani, but Rendon's out now, 490 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 8: Brandon Drury, who's. 491 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 10: Had a really good year for. 492 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: Them, is out. 493 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 10: So they've got a lot of guys. 494 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 8: I mean, who's the you know, short they're starting shortstop, 495 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 8: A lot of pitchers are on the shelf, so they 496 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 8: need to get to the All Star break and yeah, 497 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 8: I mean Otani will find a little bit more. But 498 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 8: I think it's possible that, you know, he could be 499 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 8: out of the lineup today, and it's possible it could 500 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 8: impact him the next couple of days before the break, 501 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: but I expect him to probably be pretty healthy by 502 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 8: the time they get back and he's slated to start 503 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 8: that first game back from the All Star break. Obviously, 504 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 8: this could impact his ability to play in the All 505 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 8: Star Game. We'll find out more on that soon too, 506 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 8: But I think the prognosis is, you know, anytime Otani's heard, 507 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 8: it's it's massive news, especially since it's you know, we're 508 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 8: about four weeks out from the from the trade deadline 509 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 8: and everything that might mean for the Angels, for Otani 510 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 8: and for baseball in general. 511 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a bumber for baseball if he's not playing 512 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: in the All Star Game. You already don't have Aaron 513 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Judge because of an injury, and now you know one 514 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: of the other faces of baseball could possibly miss the 515 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: All Star Game in Seattle, where I'll be next week, 516 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: and so will the podcast. 517 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: Of course. 518 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's you mentioned Anthony ren don I mean, 519 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: talk about bad luck by the Angels. They signed this 520 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: guy from the Nationals after the Nationals win the World Series. 521 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: He had an unbelievable year. You get him, and he's 522 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: been hurt the entire time. What what happened to him yesterday? 523 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: How long could he be out? 524 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 10: I mean, I think, you know, you say it's bad luck. 525 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 8: I mean, I think in some ways it is bad luck, 526 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 8: and I think in some ways it's just poor investing. 527 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 10: The Angels kind of have a track record of this, 528 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 10: you know. 529 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 8: I mean, and listen, you know, I think you miss 530 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 8: on certain free agents every once in a while, and 531 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 8: there are bad contracts all across the sport. But you know, 532 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 8: the Angels have done this a few times now, so 533 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 8: you lose the benefit of the doubt of kind of 534 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 8: getting this whole bad luck or you know, bad just 535 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 8: bad business type of you know, uh, I guess reputation. 536 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 8: And I think the Angels aren't bad to kind of 537 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 8: have a you know, bad business model in terms of 538 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 8: what they invest in and how they invest in. You know, 539 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 8: who they give contracts to, and you know, signing guys 540 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 8: who are who just have their best years sometimes can 541 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 8: be great, but sometimes you might end up getting players 542 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 8: that are on the back end of their career. And 543 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 8: that's what Pooholes was, That's what Josh Hamilton was for 544 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 8: this team. And there are a bunch of Vernon Wells, 545 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 8: and there's tons of guys that cos art. You can 546 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 8: go down the list of just the number of bad 547 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 8: investments the Angels have made in you know, the last 548 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 8: decade decade and a half or so. But yeah, I 549 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 8: mean the prognosis and I mean he seems to think 550 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 8: he's gonna go on the injured list when we spoke 551 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 8: to him yesterday. So again, that's probably something we'll learn 552 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 8: more about here pretty soon. But I'm guessing he's going 553 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 8: to be out for a little bit, and he's been 554 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 8: his third time on the IL. He got suspended earlier 555 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 8: in the year, so it's just he can't play. He's 556 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 8: not playing ever. 557 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 7: You know. 558 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 10: Some of these injuries are freak accidents. 559 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 8: Some of them, you know, it's he doesn't communicate very 560 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 8: much about them, so it's tough to know exactly what 561 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 8: he's dealing with. 562 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's. 563 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 8: Just kind of I think people are frustrated with him 564 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 8: just for his inability to stay on the field and 565 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 8: just some of the decisions he's made and his lack 566 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 8: of communication about all the things that he's dealing with. 567 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 8: You know, that's important, and he doesn't necessarily do a 568 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 8: good job of that. 569 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: One last thing, sam uh will Otani betrayed just your 570 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: gut or just the feeling. I always feel like you 571 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 3: can't allow a guy like that to just walk with 572 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: this hope or notion that you know he's going to 573 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: resign with you. You got to kind of have a 574 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: feel or know like something's gonna happen here. What do 575 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: you think is gonna happen? 576 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 8: I listen, I think there's two questions that you know, 577 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 8: One is should they should he be traded, and one 578 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 8: is will he be traded? 579 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 10: And will he be traded? 580 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 8: I'd be very confident he will not be traded, just 581 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 8: because the way that you know. I think if you 582 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 8: look at what the Angels value, I mean we just 583 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 8: talk about investments. I mean I think that it's I 584 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 8: do not always know if they're always operating in the 585 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 8: best interest. 586 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 10: Of winning at all times. 587 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 8: And you can make a case that obviously, keeping Otani 588 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 8: through the end of the years, you're gonna win more 589 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 8: games that way, But are you gonna win more games 590 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 8: long term? Are you gonna set yourself up for the future. 591 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 8: The Angels have never been a team that rebuilds under 592 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 8: owner Ardi Moreno, So I mean that I don't think 593 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 8: we're gonna see that, and trading him would signal or rebuild. 594 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 8: I mean, the biggest question is what these next nineteen 595 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 8: games look like. They're four games out of a playoff 596 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 8: spot right now, But if they're in a situation where 597 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 8: they know they really don't play well over these next 598 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 8: nineteen games and they're seven or eight games out of 599 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 8: a playoff spot at that point, I mean, how do 600 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 8: you justify keeping a player that you know can't help 601 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 8: you get to the playoffs because you're so far out 602 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 8: of it, and then you don't feel very confident that 603 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 8: you're going to be able to resign. So it's just 604 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 8: it's there's a lot of stake in these next couple 605 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 8: of weeks. But it's uh, I don't think they're going 606 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 8: to train him. I think they value keeping him. I 607 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 8: don't think they want to be the team that to 608 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 8: let go of you know, Babe Ruth. Obviously that didn't 609 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 8: play out well for the Red Sox last time around. 610 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 8: So uh, you know, it's just it's a complicated question. 611 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 8: It's going to be very interesting next month for this, 612 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: for this team and for the sport as it revolves 613 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 8: around Otani. 614 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: All Right, his name is Sam Blum and he covers 615 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: the Angels for the Athletic And we appreciate you. Thanks 616 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: for all the insight and the knowledge, Sam. 617 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 10: Of course, anytime, Rob, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 618 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: Okay, bye, bye, good job man, Thank you really yeah. 619 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 10: Soon anytime, man, thanks for having me. 620 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Take care now bring in the closer. Right, here's why 621 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, and it 622 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: isn't even close. 623 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: Reason Number three hundred and sixty seven why Major League 624 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: Baseball is better than the NBA and better than the NFL. 625 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: And we all know next week the All Star Game. 626 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: You know what. I know you hear this from me, 627 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: but it's true. 628 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: While the other All Star games are so awful to watch, 629 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl in the NFL, they don't want to 630 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: play it anymore. They're playing touch football. And you know, 631 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: you get the All Star Game in NHL, we'll throw 632 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: them in there. Two is a twelve to eleven game 633 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: in hockey, which never happens, and the NBA All Star 634 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: Game another one had the lowest ratings ever this past year. 635 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: It was just it was boring, it was terrible. 636 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: But anyway, Major League Baseball still plays the All Star 637 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: Game the way you play a regular game. Nobody's throwing 638 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: the ball slower, easier, trying to help people here. No, 639 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: you play the game the right way, the only way 640 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: to play. And the home Run Derby Special and the 641 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: Midsummer Classic. 642 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: It's the best All Star game of all sports. I 643 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: don't care what anybody says. 644 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: And best of all, the fans get to vote because 645 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: they get to see who they want to see, and 646 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: that's what sports league should do. 647 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Let the fans decide. 648 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: Nobody cares what the managers and the general managers and 649 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: front office people care. It's the fans game. Let them 650 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: have their way, and that's what baseball does. That's what 651 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 3: makes the All Star Game so special. In the words 652 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: of New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking 653 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: you for your time this time until next time. 654 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Rob Parker out d can't Gavin. 655 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: This could be an inside of Parker. See you next week, 656 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: same bat time, from same MAT's station.