00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests. You're our presences presents enough, and I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Wineger. I'll be guiding you through today's episode. You'll be listening and paying attention, potentially taking notes if something's broken in your mind. We're in the backyard as of right now. The neighbors not renovating their home, but the birds are chirping, and we'll hopefully keep it that way. We may have some garbage trucks drive through the neighborhood at some point. That would be a fun little surprise. But I think we should get into today's episode with today's guest, who's so funny and wonderful, Kelvin. You Kelvin, And I said, no gifts. Thanks, thanks for having me, thanks for being here, Thanks Thanks Tate. Well, knock on wood. Whatever they're building back there has got to be gorgeous. Two mechanical bulls. Two you're saying building the mechanical We're building mechanical bulls back there. I would not be surprised if they were riding and building mechanical and shoot. 00:01:53 Speaker 3: That's the free mechanical bull access for you. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: And when was the last time you're on a mechanical bull? 00:02:00 Speaker 4: I think my first birthday party. No, I don't think I've ever been on a mechanical bull. You know, I may have been on one, because there was a time I was going to Austin, Texas quite a bit, and I vaguely remember going. You know, it used to be kind of a cool thing to do on Sunset Boulevard. 00:02:14 Speaker 3: Do you remember that. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe there's a something Saddle Yeah, Saddle Ranch was like a big they have and they had somebody on the mechanical bowl. What a cringe world we were living in, just not that long ago, I mean within the last seven years easily easily just no sanitizer, just people touching the same bowl trunk. Now we all have our own bowl. 00:02:38 Speaker 4: Now it's more of like a home bowl situation that you order, you don't go anywhere, you just have the bull come to you. 00:02:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember those early days of the pandemic, the bull being delivered to my house. I guess I'll just do that. 00:02:50 Speaker 4: Just leave the bull in the front door, don't touch the don't touch anything. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: I'll build it myself. 00:02:56 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:02:57 Speaker 2: And then just days and days of riding the bull, kind of in silence, said, the tears streaming down my face. But now I found you learned so much about yourself. And oh my god, you. 00:03:07 Speaker 4: Didn't realize you were baking, you were bull riding. You were thinking, you were quiet. 00:03:13 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, now talking about I don't know. I mean, I asked you, like, when was the time you're on a bowl? Like everyone's done it. I've never done it. 00:03:20 Speaker 3: Yeah no, you don't. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, neither, none of none of us here seem like are giving off real bull rider energy. On Elise, have you ever been on a bowl? Never? But I wouldn't rule it out. Okay, right, it's a good answer. I wouldn't last one second on a mechanical bowl. I would absolutely literally be thrown, and not in a fun way. It would be a way that ruins the party. 00:03:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it wouldn't be fun. Sometimes it's fun, but I don't think that'd be fun. It feels like it seems like it requires a set of muscles that I don't use, you know what I mean, Like when you think about what somebody doing it, Well, right, it's not a part of my body that I'm like accessing. 00:03:55 Speaker 2: I don't even know what I mean. I think it's literally all of your body. You've got to have the finger or strength, you've got to have the arm strength. Your thighs are absolutely gripping that bowl. That's right, that's right, gripping the bowl in a way that's like not with respect, you know what I mean. 00:04:11 Speaker 4: It's tasteful, No, not tasteful. There's anger involved. You sort of have to transition anger into your thighs like a yoga instructor would tell you to do. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: But in reverse. 00:04:22 Speaker 2: Do yoga instructors say put anger in your thighs. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: They don't say that, but I do. I will say, and I'd like doing yoga, and at one point I was doing a lot of it. They say things that that are not allowed to be said in any other context, and you're so right there, like she'll say, seck and just like just forgive your hips right now, and you're like, that's right, I'll just forgive my hips. And if somebody were to say that on the street you would either laugh or like maybe go to slap them or something. 00:04:49 Speaker 3: But like but in that moment, you're like, of course, of course I should forgive. 00:04:53 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let go of this decade's long grudge in my hips. 00:04:57 Speaker 3: Today's the day we put this thing to. 00:05:01 Speaker 2: I don't think about my hips that often. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: No, And when you're doing yoga, you do. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: And that's the point of it, I think, is to like think about your hips, forgive them, apologize. It's like, and so you used to do yoga a lot and you've given up. Is that what I feel like? There was a lot put into my mind. And yes, you nailed it. 00:05:26 Speaker 4: No, I did a lot of yoga at one point, you know, I just really I'll get right into it. I was a cigarette smoker in my. 00:05:34 Speaker 2: Twenties, okay, and I quit smoking like on the dot, like thirty. Like I was not turkey basically, wow. 00:05:42 Speaker 4: Basically I think I had tried twice for like six months or nine months or something. And that's really defeating, is to like go cold for like six months and then put that thing, you know. Oh yeah, And then so what I started doing was swimming in this is like nineteen fifty three. It feels so, yeah, I'm a hobbit. I don't know if that's clear from a podcast standpoint. And uh, And I started swimming at the y and then I started doing a lot of yoga. And in some ways, I don't know if it's just some kind of like mental trick, but put sucking on a cigarette after you've gone swimming for an hour feels really self defeating. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: It's like pooping after you shower. 00:06:26 Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like, y'all just hold the poop for a couple hours, just so it's not so you know. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: Like immediately demolishing what you've done. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: Right, right, all that soap. 00:06:37 Speaker 4: And so I would swim and I would be so tired that I would wouldn't want to say, in your lungs feel, you know, huge and so and then I did a lot of yoga, and that was the way I would every time I wanted to smoke a cigarette, I would do like fifteen minutes of yoga. 00:06:51 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, like ten minutes of yoga just breathing heavy things. Yeah, I think that'll make you focus on your lungs. 00:06:57 Speaker 4: Combined with really not wanting may be a smoker, right, right, it's but I miss it. Like when I what I smell a cigarette, I have like a Pavlovian like because I was I was such a asshole in my twenties and I like sort of like, oh, I remember that guy, like like. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, tied up with all of these fond memories of life being full of possibilities exactly late nights out with friends smoking on the corner. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you might associate with like you know, Hong Kong cinema or. 00:07:27 Speaker 2: Oh yeah cool, like of course there's a little edge. 00:07:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, So but you say goodbye to that guy now it's just Lacroix, and you'll. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: Go, I also have their edge, right, and they're place in Hong Kong Cinema. 00:07:40 Speaker 4: Right would And what I mean by that is I smoke Lacroix. That sounds extremely dangerous, like that spoon like mess. That's a TikTok trend, just waiting to Oh my god, execs for thinking right now in their cars like wait a minute, that's that can we is. 00:07:57 Speaker 2: That they've probably hit the ceiling with say, with normal Lacroix ysage. So we've got to find another way. This is expansion, This is the mainlining. 00:08:06 Speaker 4: This stuff free base, it'll come out with like a corporate response saying not to do it. He's yeah, they don't, but if you do, all new Lacroix spoons will be available at your local supermarket. 00:08:18 Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea, Lacroix. You've been looking for that new edge. 00:08:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now let me ask you about beginning smoking. Was that was? It? Was it like a peer pressure situation, was a thing like, well, maybe I'll just start smoking. 00:08:31 Speaker 3: It was even more shameful. 00:08:34 Speaker 4: It was for like a graduate film that I had that I had agreed to do, and I was thinking, I was nineteen and they needed a guy who could skateboard. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: Okay, so all I had to do was skateboard down the street. I didn't even have like a good role in this thing. And I remember they were like, it would be cool if you. 00:08:53 Speaker 4: If you smoked a cigarette or something like that, because everybody knows skateboarding and cigarettes. Right, you had some glass, Yeah, was playing, Yeah, probably no sleeves, I'm guessing, and uh, Born than the Wild was definitely playing. And uh, I remember they sent the wardrobe girl to come teach me how to smoke a cigarette, and so I smoked like five cigarettes for like, you know, for free, zero money for a movie that nobody will ever see. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, decades ago. And but at the end of that, I was like, I can smoke a cigarette now. And then the next time I think I was, you know, a round cigarettes, I was like, give me one. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: And then for about nine. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: Years, so when she was teaching you, was like how to hold it in your hand, how to just inhale in general. 00:09:43 Speaker 4: And I remember she she was gross and and she just didn't seem like the kind of person. She seemed unhealthy and bitter and you know, and and so I'm learning and smelled you know, like cigarettes, because she was a smoker. I mean, who's the person that you're like, hey, send that person to go to cigarette coach. Not not to be you know, pejorative about cigarette smokers, because like I said, I miss it, and I do think it's cool. 00:10:16 Speaker 2: Teens. Are you listening. 00:10:18 Speaker 4: I do respect people who smoke more than people who don't. And I'm gonna probably untold health benefits that we've yet to discovered because of cultural bias. So I'm really trying to play both sides. You of course, so you can't alienate anyone there no. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: Right, So and then you just smoke because you're dumb and you're insecure and you need now you look at your phone. But then you needed some reason to step outside, for something to do with your hands, little something to o their hands, the little reason to take deep breaths. So why not inhale tar and corporate? You know, right? And so those first five cigarettes, what was I've never smoked a cigarette before. 00:11:02 Speaker 3: It is today the day. 00:11:03 Speaker 2: Today's the day. I hope that, hopefully the rest of this episode we find a giant carton of cigarettes in a bag or something. Oh. I feel like some people were like initially kind of lightheaded or nauseous when they saw. 00:11:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, like vomit vomited. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Is wow? 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Light headed? Yeah, it's a terrible thing to do. I can't imagine. I mean you should. It should be actionable to take a nineteen year old who's on a skateboard, who was hired because he could skateboard. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: Because he's very cool. Yeah, because he just has one thing missing. 00:11:33 Speaker 3: I mean, you have a child. 00:11:34 Speaker 4: I probably had like a little spinny fan on my hat or something, you know, like to bring him to the side of the tent because we were on a tent. We were outside of Okie Dog. I don't know if Oki Dog still exists. Well, I've heard of Okie Dog. It may not still, it may not exist anymore. But it was a also gross hot dog place that involved hot dogs being chopped up and put inside of a tortilla with three fried beans. 00:11:57 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's why I've heard of this. That doesn't sound good at all. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they offer vegan options and sure various still not getting any better from maybe yeah, and then they and so we were outside of Oaky Dog, you know, at three o'clock in the morning for a night shoot. And I was just there to skate, to ride a skateboard, and next thing I know, I have, you know, pre cancerous habits. 00:12:23 Speaker 2: Eating hot dogs and smoking cigarettes and just living the life every twenty year old dreams, right. 00:12:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at this age now, I can't imagine looking at a nineteen year old and being like, I'm going to instill something in you that will take you a decade to fight. 00:12:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. And was the film produced and directed by other students? 00:12:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was one of those things. 00:12:44 Speaker 4: I think I was, you know, I was a theater kid at UCLA, and it was one of those things that people were looking for graduate films and things to get on the reel or get of course, of course, and it was worth it. And has it worked in the film in the last five years. I don't think I ever saw the film Wow, And you probably don't want to. Well, I think it'll probably come out soon. It'll do. I think it'll do quite well in today's market. My is my guest, and I have no reason to believe that, but I just feel like this is this is gonna work, and this. 00:13:19 Speaker 2: Is the time, this is the time. And so you skateboard? Do you actually skateboard? 00:13:24 Speaker 3: I did. 00:13:25 Speaker 4: I don't the cost benefit calculus of skateboarding in your thirties and forties really changing, right. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: I do surf quite a lot. Terrible. 00:13:36 Speaker 4: I've been surfing for my whole life. But you're still terrible. I'm still terrible. It's one of those things. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: It's like, do you have anything like that where you're like, you've been doing it for almost everything, and you're no, but you've been doing it forever and you're okay with kidding. I kind of can't tell you one thing that I'm like oh, I'm an ex I've started young, and how I'm an expert. 00:13:55 Speaker 4: No, but something you do a lot that you're like the ceiling for me is already touching the top of my head and I've been touching it for several years. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: Video games. Video games are something I play so much. You and I'm still bad. Really why but you love it. I still have a good time doing it. But like the moment I'm like playing like a game with another person. Yeah, Like, oh, I'm I guess I'll just never be good at this. 00:14:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, it becomes clear your shame is public right right right Well. With surfing, I there are days out there you might see me and think, Okay, that guy can do a thing. Sure he does the thing that we were talking about the other days. A lot of days you might be like, that's cool that that guy's trying something. Yeah, and it's like twenty five years in the making. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: He was on vacation. 00:14:43 Speaker 4: I thought he would try that. Oh honey, look he bought a board three hours ago. He got he invested way too much into this thing. 00:14:50 Speaker 3: Should we help? I have my finger on nine one one just in case. Let's keep an eye on it. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: When you're when you say, do a thing on a surfboard, What do you mean? Is that like a trick? Is that like? Oh? 00:15:01 Speaker 4: No, I mean I That's the thing about it is it is private, generally private. You go with friends sometimes, but you can also go alone, which I do because I go early. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: I'm a five am. 00:15:11 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, sure, I have one buddy that I go with quite a bit, but a lot of times it's alone. And then it's just all dependent on the waves. And in La County we kind of have crappy waves, right, So if you were to live in San Diego, Orange County, or Hawaii or Mexico or something, Santa Barbara even, you get much better waves. But here there it's all just what we call gravel. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just kind of groveling. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: Okay, but it's good for you. 00:15:34 Speaker 4: It's sort of meditative and then you feel cool. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, on top of the world, do you ever travel to surf. 00:15:44 Speaker 4: I've served Hawaii, I've served up and down California. I have never served Mexico, actually, which is a weird thing for somebody to serve this long, right, But there's great waves in Mexico and it's warm. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: Where is Hawaii kind of the destination for surfing. 00:16:02 Speaker 4: I mean some people might say, no, yeah, it's why it's the center of the universe. Yeah, but yeah, that's something I'm bad at or generally not as good as you would absolutely scientifically think, right. And another thing like that is guitar and piano. Like I because I'm an Asian American kid, you know, in California, I took piano or violin wanted it too, or you just get sent to an island, I think. And so I took piano lessons for eleven years, and I'm so bad at me. 00:16:31 Speaker 2: I took piano lessons for about the same amount of time. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: Don't got it? 00:16:35 Speaker 2: Absolutely so bad. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: I don't got it. 00:16:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could, like form a chord, sure, exactly, but I can't site read. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: No, I've been at the same level since like ninety three. 00:16:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I started, I probably learned for the first three years and then I I mean I begain resenting it very quickly. And then it was mad that I had to go to piano lessons, yes, and learned nothing for seven to eight years. Shut that door in your brain, yes, yes, which is such a shame. 00:17:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, such a shame. 00:17:01 Speaker 2: I'd love to be at an rdstrum and sit down at the piano and play for the other shop. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:17:05 Speaker 4: And our piano teacher hated me, and my mom was convinced she could find him a wife, and so so every week she would present him with new candidates. To Mary, did you ever have piano recitals? 00:17:21 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:17:22 Speaker 4: And I did them with my brother. Sometimes we had duets. They were horrifying and terrible, and they would address us the same, Oh, that's adorable. No, it's a form of slow torture over months. And then I don't know if you ever did this, but there was like an aptitude test we would also take. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: No, it sounds like you went to a much better piano teacher than I did. I don't know why they would do that, but it was a way of like like signifying your level, so, you know, like standardized testing or something. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: Got I hated it. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: Did you would you pass the tests? Though? 00:17:55 Speaker 4: I probably only did two and yes, but with a lot of anger and like, my brain is so attached to the emotional place. 00:18:04 Speaker 2: You were not proud to pass the test. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: No. 00:18:07 Speaker 4: No, I vaguely remember literally falling asleep during lessons. So I think my my teacher was you know, my teacher was justified. Imagine like teaching somebody and then realizing they're asleep. 00:18:18 Speaker 2: Oh of course, yeah, that's what feeling. Now. Was your brother on the same page basically, or was he He was a violin and then so you were like at the same piano playing. No, and then he also had to take piano for a moment, so he was no. No, none of this was consensual. This is all. 00:18:35 Speaker 3: This is all completely non consensual. Parent. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: Did you get to pick these songs you would play at the result? 00:18:39 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:18:40 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, no, you did go to a an objectively better piano teacher than me. 00:18:45 Speaker 4: We got to pick the song. We were all over the place, so like Forever Your Girl by Paula Abdul, and it. 00:18:51 Speaker 2: Was like, that's not that far from the one I can really remember. Is I played I'll Be There for You, the Friends theme song. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Oh, I'll be there. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: I was about the bon Jovi version. Oh yeah, so you're playing TV theme song? Yes? Uh. Started like from like second to four fourth grade. I was playing like the big hits from the Disney movies and then got into us like I'll play all day I'll be there for you. That was the last I think that was probably like I. 00:19:17 Speaker 3: Topped functional, you know what I mean. 00:19:19 Speaker 4: That means you're thinking in the future, You're thinking, I'm going to play this at parties. 00:19:23 Speaker 3: This is this is. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: Something that's going to come in handy because I'm parties that sort of welcoming people. 00:19:30 Speaker 4: In if if they ever come out with announcement from Friends, Hey, we lost the person who normally played that every week, and we need someone to play it. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: You you were ready. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: I was absolutely ready to go should the rem brands be canceled, and then they needed a pianist to kind of step in and play the song fly show. 00:19:49 Speaker 3: Every Thursday, because that's how they did that. 00:19:51 Speaker 2: Warmed up the audience with my my piano stylings. 00:19:55 Speaker 4: Very few people nationwide were ready, and yet there you are. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: I would love for that show to start with just a piano version of the song. It's not too late, friends, creators, there's always a reboot. 00:20:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that would be a reason for to get everybody back. Oh absolutely, that would be the only reason. Hey, we had an idea call me back. We don't have a lot of money, but but. 00:20:20 Speaker 2: We do have a pianist who can play the first the opening riff. Hey, Lisa, I know you're busy and you're in Europe, but. 00:20:29 Speaker 3: We found this guy. 00:20:33 Speaker 2: Like this before. 00:20:34 Speaker 4: One of my producers were listening to a podcast and we found this guy. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: He's ready to go. It's never too late. It's never too late. Well, that's very exciting to hear. It's nice to hear another person who took years of piano and has almost nothing to show for us. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: That's right. 00:20:55 Speaker 4: It's it's good to spend time on something that you have no receipts from. And I also think it's generally good to be sort of like decent to mediocre at a couple of things that you do regularly. I think I think that's healthy, and I think that's probably I'm going to be ageis here, but I think that's something that maybe younger people aren't doing as much because they have so many other things to do. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: Right, They've got a whole map of things. 00:21:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you're you're just what am I? What else am I gonna do? I'll just go play bad piano for an hour. 00:21:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, to just kind of struggle through something and be like, well I did it. 00:21:30 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:21:30 Speaker 4: What about Minecraft? What's Minecraft? That's the person from the future to talk to you. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of struggling and having a hard time doing things, I imagine you have a slightly hard time following directions. I host a podcast that you're currently on called I said no Gifts, and you agreed to be on it a few weeks ago, and I was so excited. I thought it rings a bell, Calvin's so funny. This will be a delightful time in the backyard, and then we'll get to kind of go our separate way ways with fond memories of one another. So I was a little surprised, little I won't say upset by shaken. I wasn't even shaken. I'll just say things went through my mind when you entered my backyard holding a brown bag with some i'll say it delicious tissue popping out of the top of it. It's green, it's white as sparkles all over it. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: You can eat it. 00:22:26 Speaker 2: I will be swallowing both pieces on this podcast. Well, listen to me, die. I was a little surprised to see you with this bag, so I have to ask, is this a gift for me? 00:22:37 Speaker 3: It is? 00:22:38 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:22:38 Speaker 4: You should know that I don't like your rules and I don't care about you should know that if it's not clear enough, So this is guns are blazing. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Let's just be upfront about it. 00:22:47 Speaker 4: It's not an edible gift, and yet I want you to eat it, and you will eat it. 00:22:52 Speaker 2: You came here as an assassin, let's just be very clear. 00:22:56 Speaker 4: A terrible assassin that slowly watches his victims eat. The least accurate assassin on the planet. Yeah, not batting a high average A gift. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: Has never heard of a sniper rifle, but has plenty of gift bags to go around. We'll should I open this here on the podcast? 00:23:14 Speaker 3: I think you shouldn't. I think that would be fantastic. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not I'm not gonna this little game of chicken we're playing. I'm gonna keep just driving the car down the road, and I'm going to open the gift. 00:23:23 Speaker 5: Viewers are gonna love it. 00:23:43 Speaker 2: Let's get this tissue. That's a nice light tissue. 00:23:48 Speaker 3: The first time you've done it. 00:23:49 Speaker 4: Okay, you do have a podcast, apparently, Oh. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: I've got a podcast. Baby. We've got all the tissue out and I'm now okay. There are two objects. The first should I take this one out? 00:23:58 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:23:59 Speaker 2: The first time saying oh, first I thought it was just toilet paper. 00:24:03 Speaker 3: It's not just toilet paper. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: But now I'm saying it's san Rio brand toilet paper. 00:24:07 Speaker 3: Do you know this character? 00:24:08 Speaker 2: I don't. I think I might know this character. Is this the egg Yo the egg Yolk? 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is good At Tama, and I've always. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: Been curious about him. I first became aware of him there was like a crossover with a Hamburger restaurant. Sure, but at the time, I don't. I don't think I knew he was a Sanrio character. 00:24:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very popular. 00:24:26 Speaker 2: He's part of the Hello Kitty family. 00:24:28 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's part of that family. I mean maybe he's trying to be in that family and hasn't yet succeeded. 00:24:33 Speaker 3: But today could be a big step. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it takes a little promotional, absolute little platform. So I wasn't aware that san Rio had separate universes. 00:24:46 Speaker 3: I wasn't either. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: I think you're mistaking me for an employee of the Sanrio corporation, but I will brand. I did bring you good At Tama, so he and I mightnnce be pronouncing that wrong, but I did look it up. 00:25:00 Speaker 3: His gou day Gouda. 00:25:01 Speaker 4: I think is how you pronounce it is a like a term for lazy in Japanese. Okay, tamago means egg. He's lazy egg. Okay, So because you know I can, I can say this. I think Asian people like to decide who's lazy and who's not based on my parental upbringing. I think that's really it's really important to figure out, Oh, this character is not. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Lazy, this character is lazy. Well this I'll speak for everyone. This egg is clearly lazy. Yeah, he's clearly lazy. It's the laziest little egg in the world. 00:25:32 Speaker 4: I'll never see him working, yeah, or even like looking for work, you know, like it's one thing to not work, it's another thing if you're looking. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: Right actively, like going to the temp agency. 00:25:42 Speaker 4: Is this sort of No, he's never even when you ask him what he's up to, it's not a good answer. 00:25:46 Speaker 2: I mean, I will, but I will. I'm going to try to feel what this character is feeling. He looks also clinically depressed. 00:25:55 Speaker 4: You know, that's more empathic than I think most people have been to him. 00:25:58 Speaker 2: Of course, he looks like he doesn't care if he lives or dies. 00:26:02 Speaker 4: No, I think that's really what's going on. It should be clinically depressed egg whatever that Japanese harder to sell, harder to sell, harder to sell. But he is adorable and he does come in plush toys and stickers and apparently now toilet paper. 00:26:16 Speaker 2: Toilet paper, uh design character design wise. I have notes about. 00:26:21 Speaker 4: The Let's do them because I'm sure they're listening and we can put them in email form. 00:26:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. I will type this up later on. Lisa is taking notes as well. Sanrio Corp. Will send these to h Q. But the yo, he is the yoke on top of the white. He's almost using the white as a blank. 00:26:37 Speaker 3: That's true. I think that's what's going on. 00:26:39 Speaker 2: Which choos to me the Sanrio Corporation has a fundamental misunderstanding of how an egg even works. 00:26:47 Speaker 4: So this is more of a biobiological note. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: Right, It's like the egg is all one piece? 00:26:54 Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that true? 00:26:57 Speaker 2: Well? I work for Big Egg. I have kind of an egg farm. 00:27:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're here with an agenda and I can hear it, and nobody's buying this. I think he I think the egg we're gonna make up science right now. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that that's I mean that we won't be the first podcast to do it. 00:27:16 Speaker 4: I think the egg is the embryonic material, and yoke around him is like some type of sack that feeds the embryo. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: No one will ever eat an egg again. 00:27:28 Speaker 4: And you don't, Yeah, I don't think these are the kinds of things you want to have in your brain. 00:27:32 Speaker 2: You have to push these things away absolutely anytime you're eating an animal product. 00:27:36 Speaker 4: And we wonder why he's depressed because he knows something that we all just. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Push down at push away. So I wonder how he gets around? Oh, to fly around like a saucer, you're it's pretty revealing that you have never. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: Been depressed, because when you're depressed, you're not going anywhere. 00:27:59 Speaker 2: I'm crawling along the kitchen floor. 00:28:01 Speaker 3: In today's world, you're ordering in. 00:28:04 Speaker 2: How does he What I'm asking is how does he get from the couch to the bed? Uh? He? 00:28:09 Speaker 4: I think he has figured it out because I think the bed is hit with him all the time. 00:28:15 Speaker 2: That's the point of Yeah, how does he lay in the shower crying? How does he lie sit still quietly? 00:28:21 Speaker 3: I go after a good tama here. 00:28:24 Speaker 2: Because he danced onto my podcast, and now I've got questions that everyone was begging to be answered. 00:28:31 Speaker 4: I will say Japanese culture is fond of personifying food. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of like sushi toys. 00:28:42 Speaker 2: When you go to Japan, you see a lot of that. Have you been? I have? I've been once? And uh yeah, I mean they're delightful characters everywhere. Yeah, and and. 00:28:52 Speaker 4: And like surreal and kind of like almost psychedelic level like imagination of like right, you know. 00:28:58 Speaker 2: I mean, for example, depressed egg. 00:29:00 Speaker 4: Depressed egg, that's totally fine to wipe your ass apparently you know what I want. 00:29:08 Speaker 2: Have you been to Japan? 00:29:09 Speaker 4: Been a couple of times, but it's been a while. I think the last time I went was over ten years. Where did you go in Japan? I went to I've been to Osaka, Kobe, Yokohama and Tokyo and BG. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:29:20 Speaker 4: I was hoping you would ask this. This is why I requested that you asked this. But I will say, I don't know if we have a moment for this. But I used to work for a Japanese barbecue restaurant which was Yukaku Senaga. I opened that location, Breg. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: What did you do there? I was a waiter Okay wonderful. 00:29:38 Speaker 4: And apparently I wasn't I wasn't a bad waiter because they wanted to be a man, me to be a manager. 00:29:42 Speaker 2: Oh I love to hear that. 00:29:43 Speaker 4: So they sent me to Japan for seven days what and on a corporate trip. And I pretended to want to be a manager, so I could go to Japan for seven days. And Yukaku has like twenty or thirty locations. Let's say in America, there's eight hundred fifty in Japan. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: Okay, oh my yeah, They're like Starbucks right there on every corner. 00:30:03 Speaker 4: And so there was this big giant like corporate uh how do you say, like conference where five locations one like location. It was almost like the Oscars, and it was fake smoke, no, and each one came out. The first one comes out, and I have an earwig and so I can hear an English translator this is. And the first one comes out, and there's like ten people that work at this this location, and they're dancing to kiss me by six nuts and on the richer and it's like kiss me and they and they all hit the stage and then the first person starts talking or the only person and they start showing like profit and lost grafts, and he's I'm not going to do the impression because I can't seak Japanese, but he's doing like impassioned Japanese. And over the course of like forty five minutes, he starts screaming and crying, Oh my god about but in my ear it's going like and then we introduce to the hour in June that raised profits, that raised Kieran Draft beer profits by five percent, and he's. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: Like, ah, he's crying tears. It's not one hundred percent true. I was with one other guy and we were looking at each other like we need to leave or stay forever. 00:31:17 Speaker 4: This has gone from conference to cold crazy. And then so then we take a break and we think, okay, that's wild. And then the second presentation happens, same thing, another song, and this time was a woman. She started crying. And so what it turned out to me was like this ritualized kind of like situation where they were essentially competing over passion for a company. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: They wanted to prove that they wanted the employee that loved the guy. 00:31:44 Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's been like this forever or if like one year somebody just like took the took the you know, like took the way the wheels the rains off and just went buck wild. And now everybody is forced to scream and cry, but you know, and you're it was like and then we realized that the skirt steak was the most popular and the translator had no interest in mimicking the emotion. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: But there is nothing better than the cool, calm, collected nature of a translator. Like while like you'll see like the like sign language translator laters at a concert or whatever, and they're just like, I'm here to do my job, deliver the information with no bias. 00:32:20 Speaker 3: That's right. I'm not an actor. 00:32:21 Speaker 4: I'm here to just tell you what this Israeli Palestine conversation. 00:32:28 Speaker 2: I love. It's truly the best thing in the world. And these people are the most professional. 00:32:32 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and and and they should probably be paid more, I'm assuming, and be more famous. So yeah, that was my That was my most I mean, you should never go back. 00:32:43 Speaker 2: Nothing's going to. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: Talk, nothing's going to top that. That was the best. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: Also, I love do you like going on a business trip when it's just you're not paying for any element of it? It feels incredible be like a crappy. 00:32:56 Speaker 3: Marriotte room that you didn't pay for us. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: You get to be there guilt free. You just don't have to worry about a thing. 00:33:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, a beer in the Phoenix airport for some reason, watching like a college basketball game that you don't care about, next to some like engineering conference attendee. 00:33:18 Speaker 3: What's better? 00:33:19 Speaker 2: That is what we all live for. That's what we live for. So you went to this conference. Did you do anything else while there? 00:33:26 Speaker 4: Not on that trip, But I did go with my mom once and we did some of that like natural hot spring stuff, which is. 00:33:32 Speaker 2: Also I've never done one of those. It's great. It's sort of like eating an egg. 00:33:36 Speaker 4: You have to turn off the fact that there's like Geisha Doll level, you know, servants walking around making your night like very pleasant. And yes, I guess we kind of do that here too, in terms of like bus boys and you know, people not being paid with the. 00:33:52 Speaker 2: Right kind of treating service people badly. 00:33:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, in Japan, it's they're they're not hiding anything pretty much in your face. There was you know, there's there's women at the front door that are basically like you know, Ripley's like wax figurine level. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Still you walk right by them, and that's fascinating. Okay, so I have this what what was the decision making logic behind this toilet paper? 00:34:21 Speaker 3: Little race based I assumed. 00:34:23 Speaker 4: I assumed you hadn't gotten like a lot of like international gifts. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: And my wife and I go to do you go to Sawtel Ever? 00:34:31 Speaker 2: I love pretty far. I love there's so much good Japanese food down there that I'm always tempted to go. But then I think, oh, that's an hour away, easily. Yeah, but when you get there and you're having ramin or what have you, and it's like there's just outside of well, I guess you can go to Torrance is also apparently good for Japanese food, well done. 00:34:50 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't talk about Torrance. 00:34:51 Speaker 2: I see. Torrance is another thing that's constantly tempting me. Yes, because there's good food there, great food, but again an hour away. And also God bless Torrents, but not not. We're not there for sits Oh really large. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: So you're not go. 00:35:09 Speaker 2: There to see like the Toyota factory or whatever, or Taco bell head. 00:35:12 Speaker 4: I think it's on the cover of the photers La twenty twenty three edition. 00:35:17 Speaker 2: It's kind of the new hot spot for travelers. Yeah. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: No, it is sort of a culinary secret spot, right sure, Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Koreans. There's a great Peruvian Japanese place in Torrents. Oh, I will plug here. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: I will say I've just learned of Peruvian Chinese because there's a place an Eagle Rock called Chifa Fifa, which I haven't been to yet, but people rave about. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Chifa just means is just the word for Chinese food and pat. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 00:35:46 Speaker 3: My wife is half Peruvian. Oh, we had a lot of Japanese. 00:35:49 Speaker 2: So you were familiar with Peruvian Asian fusion before. 00:35:53 Speaker 4: That's why we sought it out this place. But Torrents in general is like fantastic satl But you guys have downtown here and now the town is okay, But I don't think it's as good as hotel. Is kind of the place to be if you want really great food. 00:36:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I digress. 00:36:09 Speaker 4: So the the the reason why is because there's a place called Diso, which is. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: Kind of like an I love Diso. 00:36:16 Speaker 4: So they so all kind of like, I don't know, it's really cheap, kind of very functional. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: I want to open the next one. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get into here, let me get into this. Oh, I put the tissue back in the bag, so we'll have to have reopening up the tissue. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: Now it sounds like too much, too and. 00:36:32 Speaker 2: Now the podcast is over. Listeners turned away. Okay, so this is when I opened the toilet paper. I knew what was going on, but now I've opened a product that is absolutely horrifying. This is I'll try to describe what we're looking at here. It's it. The only English on it is fore men and before after. And then there's a man with two things shoved up his nostrils. He's screaming, his eyes are wide. And then there's there's a I'm going to I'm going to guess at what this is. Is this a nosehair removal? It is because there's a little like basically like a plastic Q tip or like a what do you stick in the golf swab or a golf Yeah, it looks like a golf tea. That's right, you stick up your nose and then it apparently does that have glue on the end. 00:37:18 Speaker 4: It does have some type of these. 00:37:22 Speaker 2: This is this is another assassin attempt. 00:37:28 Speaker 4: No, and I think it's one of these things. It's interesting because it's very Japanese. Obviously the gentleman on the cover is not Japanese. It looks maybe Italian. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: It says made in Turkey on the box, it looks yeah, it's probably Turkey. 00:37:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:37:39 Speaker 4: I wonder how many people auditioned for that. 00:37:44 Speaker 2: I drove to Santa Monica. Yeah, got in front of a casting direction. 00:37:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on hold, babe. I think I'm going to get this one. 00:37:50 Speaker 2: I finally got pinned for the nose hair. 00:37:51 Speaker 4: The guy asked me to do it again, so yeah, and then I think you hold it in there. 00:37:59 Speaker 3: This is my guess. 00:38:00 Speaker 4: They don't read Japanese, so I think you hold it in there for a number of seconds and then you rip it out and then voila. 00:38:06 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. 00:38:07 Speaker 4: I wonder if Japanese men, I mean, because it's only for men, as it says. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: Let's be Japan is ignoring a whole segment of the population that also has nose hair. Women, I'm speaking to you. You can have nose hair too. Yes, it's twenty twenty two and women have nose that's right. Just don't use this product, because this is pH balance directly for boys. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: That's right, But I wonder how much those here maybe they have. 00:38:30 Speaker 4: Maybe it's a white nationwide nightmare they're that they're confronting with this product. 00:38:34 Speaker 3: But I do I also think you can use it for. 00:38:36 Speaker 4: Ears, oh and for other things like fingers and things like that. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the back. It looks like it comes with a little pot of wax. 00:38:45 Speaker 4: It does come in a little pot of wax. And alarmingly, all of the writing is in red, so it just this. 00:38:51 Speaker 2: Could all be a warning. 00:38:53 Speaker 4: It's a huge six paragraph warning in Japanese that neither of us can read. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: But I'm sure it's fine. What could go wrong? 00:38:59 Speaker 2: I also say it looks I mean, again largely Japanese, but it does say five hundred and six hundred W, which I would assume is five hundred watty. I kind of if this is an electric product. 00:39:11 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and assume that's an electrical unit of measurements. We know so little and can read so little. 00:39:19 Speaker 2: I mean, this will be a real learning of the garbage truck is coming through the listener. I don't know if you're hearing that, but that's exciting. For you. My garbage is about to be taken away from me. 00:39:27 Speaker 4: For those two to four year old listeners, this is going to be really here. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: The dump truck, Get out your toys. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: The only part of the podcast you care about. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be a real trial experience for me where I'm learning and injuring myself. 00:39:46 Speaker 3: Do you do you have nose here? 00:39:48 Speaker 2: I do have nose? Do you? 00:39:49 Speaker 3: And I hate it? 00:39:50 Speaker 2: I nose here? 00:39:51 Speaker 1: Is? 00:39:52 Speaker 2: I guess it's necessary somehow biologically I'm sure. 00:39:55 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's really nice. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: It's doing something maybe keeping dust from getting up your nose. 00:39:58 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a Netflix document. Oh yeah, I'm sure there are fourteen. But the nosehair murderer that you never somehow knew about. 00:40:09 Speaker 2: Um, nose hair is an interesting thing from me. I learned a few years ago. And this is was not from any official source. Okay, the garbage truck. Let's just let them take the garbage. On a least, should we let them take the garbage before we continue here? 00:40:22 Speaker 3: They might be auditioning for a garbage truck show. 00:40:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, right over their own podcast, the garbage truck podcast. 00:40:28 Speaker 4: We looked at with your neighbor though, I mean do you know what they're building, No idea. It's a great mystery. It's in a back room, so it could be any any sort of dark definitely permitted. Yeah, we can assume they went through all of the paperwork. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: They paid the thirty grand. 00:40:44 Speaker 2: They're probably going to be running an illegal salon out of there. That ooop garbage And we can keep this audio. I'm happy to keep all of this. We're just chatting about the garbage truck for a minute. The world is moving. This is the thrill of being outdoors when garbage is present and needs to be taken to another place to just sit for a thousand years. 00:41:06 Speaker 3: I don't even like to think about it. 00:41:07 Speaker 4: I don't even I just throw it out on my front window and just assume somebody takes it to a sustainable plate. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: Take care of this for me. Yeah. Nose hair. Someone told me a few years ago you should not pluck nose hair because apparently, apparently your nose can become infected. Oh no, apparently the like nose. Whatever's happening there is very sensitive, and. 00:41:31 Speaker 3: So what are you supposed to shave it? 00:41:33 Speaker 2: Well, so this is what happened. I when I got my first writing job, when I first like got like my first paycheck, I'll tell you then, this will really tell people something about me. I thought, I'm going to spoil myself. I'm gonna buy a nose hair trimmer. They cost fifteen dollars. So that was my big treat. Like I was finally like a professional working. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: Right you associated groom being well groomed with your like Enough with this goodbye old Bridger. I went down to best Buy spent fourteen ninety nine. I was like, I'm really spoiling myself. And it has I've been. It hasn't changed much since then. That's how I lived my life. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: But I yet use the nose hair trimmer apparently, and they work very They're very effective, they're very affordable. I feel like Big Big Trimmer released this information. 00:42:20 Speaker 4: Introduced me to that friend that gave me that information. You know, plucking can kill you. Clearly, some high level VP at it at best Buy. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: It was like, I know it will do. They were releasing posters that say the faces of plucking, and just this could be you and the time it took you to look at this poster. Fourteen people have died from plucking their nose hair. By this trimmer. I mean, I am of the thought of like, if I can think of it, it probably has happened. So I bet somebody has diet of nose hair plucking. 00:42:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, or we'll make sure it happened. Yeah, before this was released. 00:42:50 Speaker 2: You will' given me this product with this screaming man on it. So you were at Diso just kind of when browsing. We have young kids and it's easy to go to Sawtel to just pick up noodles or pick up and so we're in that Diso way too often, right, And you also wonder like who's buying like this, you know, huge like mango, like a stuffed mango with a funny face on it feels so soft, feel so. 00:43:20 Speaker 4: Soft, forty nine ninety nine or whatever. But somebody's buying it, I think. But they're doing business. People are kind of perusing, and I just thought, there's no way he's gotten good, good Diso stuff. And that seemed also possibly like you might use it. 00:43:34 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know. I don't know what I should do with that information. I know, I mean, rather than rather than a kew change, right, it's a useful thing, right, put or something feels like a good place to take kids. 00:43:48 Speaker 4: Diso is a good place except unless you want to have a screaming child who needs every you know, a break dancing raccoon or something. 00:43:57 Speaker 2: I will say you you kind of compared Die with the ninety nine cent store, and I will say, there's a vast difference. No, you're right, that was unfair. When I'm a Diso, I'm like, almost all this feels remote. I'm kind of well made or practical. 00:44:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, except you wonder there's a lot of face masks that don't seem like FDA approved, right, And then like zip poppers that I have used actually that are pretty well well made, but I think they break after the sixth use. 00:44:24 Speaker 2: But you don't want to zip popper after six uses. Anyway, I like to. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: Hold on to just a things and just remember, just go like, oh, yeah, this was the day Obama got elected. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: I use this top so. 00:44:36 Speaker 2: Many it was a stressful time leading in that moment. We're all but yeah, Diso, I'll go in there, and I with the ninety nine cent store, I'm I can go in and be like, I'm not gonna buy anything in here. I'll just look at the insane things that are happening and then there'll be like a Christmas tree flavored Snickers or something. And but when I go into diso, I will walk away having spent money. I mean, they're all there are things in there that I'm like, oh, yeah, if you were like, we're a savvy shopper, you could probably go in here and really make a killing. Sure, But then there are items that are like, shouldn't be buying this at a ninety nine cents? Right? 00:45:11 Speaker 3: That too? 00:45:12 Speaker 4: That too, but I shouldn't. I shouldn't be unfair many people, I'm sure do there. 00:45:16 Speaker 2: Oh it's they've got all kind. They do have a rainbow of things, and a lot of it is good, like usable stuff. 00:45:23 Speaker 4: And good branding, right, I mean, because not everything in there's ninety nine cents anymore. I'm sure once we've done that is true. But now you're really thinking yeah, but also suitable for calling themselves right. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: I've hired a number of lawyers and none of the suits have stuck. 00:45:37 Speaker 4: Right, there's a disclaimer in the front window that is bulletproof. 00:45:42 Speaker 2: I bet there is. Yeah, I feel like nine most of the ninety nine cent stores are now either it's ninety nine cents or five ninety nine Those are like the two prices in those stores, right, and that's the CEO of ninety nine cent stores like worth a trillion dollars. I really think they are. I think that the company probably is problem attic on some level where they're like gouging people where they shouldn't regougey. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: Let's take them down. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: I'm happy well again. The lawsuits, the lawsuits. It's sort of a superhero of sorts. 00:46:12 Speaker 4: You're sort of out there doing something that other people are too afraid to do. 00:46:15 Speaker 2: Thank you for saying thank you. I've poured so much of my own money into this. I am hanging by a thread financially, and meanwhile ninety nine cent continues to expand and raise their prices. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: It's sort of a Hamilton Burr situation. 00:46:32 Speaker 4: Yes, you, you and the ninety nine cents sory you can't figure out why they're thriving. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Lynn Manuel is going to write a rap musical about me and ninety nine cent only. I do feel like there are a lot of stories around LA that are like the names of the stores will be so chaotic, or it'll be like ninety nine cents and possibly more, or like they really leave it open, and it's like Yeah, I'm just not going to go there because it's right right, the prices could be in any direction. 00:46:59 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, only the big ninety nine s and sore is Amazon at this point. 00:47:02 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely are just kind of a less than ninety nine. 00:47:07 Speaker 4: So we all just sucked from that teeth, don't we Just like without even thinking about it too much. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: We're just trapped. Yeah, we're just trapped. 00:47:14 Speaker 4: Just give me a huge box with like three dental flosses in front of it, because I because I was. 00:47:20 Speaker 2: Bored and I realized I was out of dental flows. So I finally find your hobby buying dental flaws. 00:47:28 Speaker 3: I'm a floss order. 00:47:30 Speaker 2: Is there anything else that dies? So you've gotten that you found useful? No? 00:47:35 Speaker 4: And never, I mean we we have. We have gotten like grooming type things like face masks and things like that, and they I honestly, it's basically like if somebody wet a piece of bounty paper towel and put it on my face, you know what I mean. And I'm like, you know, and it's like a fun thing to do with your partner or whatever, and like you know, and my my I was pretty smart, so I don't think. 00:48:01 Speaker 3: She would do it if it was really that useless. 00:48:04 Speaker 4: But to me, it felt like I was about to be microwaves, like like you know old Indian foods, like they just put wet wet to make. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Sure it doesn't splash. 00:48:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we did get a baby seal that was not a real baby seal. This is the most valuable item you knock on the back door. They are selling exotic animals. 00:48:25 Speaker 2: For I'm surprised more people don't own baby seals as pets. I feels like we're headed in that direct. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: Maybe this is a business opportunity. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: We could together and I get together start capturing these baby seals. 00:48:36 Speaker 4: Baby seals dot com they know we got a stuffed plush baby seal like years ago, just to like just because it was hilarious and this is what you do when you have no kids and you're you're not married yet and then so just put it on the bed. 00:48:51 Speaker 3: And then our dog destroyed this thing and it. 00:48:53 Speaker 4: Was just like the dirtiest, nastiest pillow that you could you know, because it was the idea of a baby seal is that it's like Christine White. Oh, right, like four hours later, this thing had like poop and dirt and dog sliva and dog treats all over it, and I was like, why did we buy that for like twenty seven dollars. 00:49:10 Speaker 2: Dog's ability to make a toy look filthy is like, where is any of the I thought you were a fairly clean animal, and You're bringing substances to this toy that I've never seen you consume or on your body. 00:49:20 Speaker 4: But they love it more than filthiery, right, so it's hard to throw it out. 00:49:24 Speaker 2: I'd love to get a nice and smelly and so they can throw it around the room. 00:49:27 Speaker 4: It's interesting because they sort of fight that trajectory of the bridger who wanted to clean out his nose because he was finally a legitimate comedy writer. And then you're like, oh, I'll get a dog and be like a domesticated adult, and then the dog brings that kind of destruction and dirt in your head. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: It's exactly toy Street. Yeah, yeah, well we love diso and now I've got this thing that could lead to my death. And then some toilet paper, which is like, who knows what ply of toilet paper? 00:49:59 Speaker 3: But it was just like right, red writing all over the back of that too, and we're. 00:50:02 Speaker 2: Just like, holy shit, just Japanese for please do not use Oh actually I'm not picking up the toilet paper again and seeing kind of a humanoid version of the egg, oh wow, which I didn't found. How he gets around he morphs. 00:50:16 Speaker 4: That looks like the canceled Broadway production of Gouda Tama. 00:50:19 Speaker 2: Like they they tried. 00:50:22 Speaker 4: They did a six week workshop and they just said, you know what, this is a bad idea and we should all just look at each other and nod yes. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: Listener, you'll see this on Instagram. This is a very scary person that's kind of in a yoke full body what creative executive over at Sanrio. Someone's kid, Yeah, somebody's kid. They're like geting some job we don't care about. 00:50:43 Speaker 4: It is no, I think that is someone's kid. I think I think that's a drawing of someone's kid. 00:50:49 Speaker 2: They're shameful child that they kind of keep hidden away. They let them out for this one illustration. But yeah, we now know how it's good to Tama. 00:50:59 Speaker 3: I think it's good Toma. Okay. 00:51:01 Speaker 2: And got to commit that to memory because every time I see the egg, I'm like, there's the egg thing? 00:51:05 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think, what if we found out that this toilet paper was made from. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: Egg Oh, now that would be mortifying. But eggs are they have a thousand uses. Yeah, you know they have people put eggs in their hair. Why not. That's right. It could easily become a toilet It could be sort. 00:51:22 Speaker 4: Of and if anybody would figure out it, you know, has figured out sort of toilet help Japan. 00:51:27 Speaker 2: Japanese toilet culture, they are the leaders. 00:51:32 Speaker 3: They're way out ahead, they're laughing. 00:51:34 Speaker 2: They are, I mean truly in another dimension compared to the rest of the world. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably why they age so well. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: Right, they're leading the innovation and toilets. Yeah, and just feeling good and you know, clean clean. Yeah. 00:51:46 Speaker 4: The rest of us are just like putting construction paper up there for three seconds to. 00:51:51 Speaker 2: Wipe away, then throwing it down the castle wall. Ye, that kind of thing the most. 00:51:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Japanese are like, no, we have a team of expertsure are going to come in and clean this out like an Airbnb after the family leaves. 00:52:04 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's something that all cultures, I feel like, could get into at this point, more advanced toilet technology. But I think it's time. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: For a game. 00:52:14 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I need a number between one and ten from you. Six. Okay, I have to do a bit of light calculating. You can recommend, promote, truly, do whatever you want with the mic for a minute. 00:52:28 Speaker 4: Okay, promote would I would recommend something that I just saw that I have no connection to, and I find hilarious that I'm promoting or recommending. But this movie, the Last Duel that Ben Afflett, that mister Jennifer Lopez's husband wrote with Nicole Hollis Center and his buddy Matt, who I think some people also know. 00:52:52 Speaker 3: But it was like a shock. A couple people told me. 00:52:55 Speaker 4: Actually, our friend Ike from After Party told me to watch it, and it was like surprise, have either of you seen this movie. It's surprisingly not only fantastic, but like important. It's like a really interesting, fabulous period piece. It's a me too movie set in the dark ages. It's like it's crazy, it's really well done. It's sort of a Rashamon structure and atom Driver is in it. I know by the look on your face that you don't believe me, and you're waiting for the bit to drop. 00:53:26 Speaker 2: But no, I'm I'm What happened was I thought, usually I have this Google doc that I have to go through to do my calculations for the game, and I thought, today I'm going to because I thought I would try a new method of doing it, and it became extremely difficult. I thought it would make things easier, and I was like, I have gotten out of control. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: I saw your computer smoking and I was like, what's he doing with that? 00:53:47 Speaker 2: But then meanwhile I was also processing that apparently this is a good movie. 00:53:51 Speaker 3: This is a very very good, interesting movie. 00:53:55 Speaker 4: And it was I think Killed by the Pandemic and that subject matters very dark. 00:53:58 Speaker 2: And the haircuts I think made people think this seems but they're bold hair choices. All. Yeah, it was. 00:54:05 Speaker 4: I think they it was like an SNL sketch that turned into a two and a half hour pick. 00:54:09 Speaker 2: But it entertained you. It's it's not yeah, it's it entertained me, but it was. 00:54:14 Speaker 4: There was a moment. There's a moment, like thirty percent way through the movie that you're like, oh, this is very interesting what they're doing for reasons. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, then I have to see it. And it's Ridley Scott. 00:54:25 Speaker 4: It's Ridley Scott and it's the same year that he also did the Gucci movie that also right, did not you know hit quite But this movie I just have to say, in terms of subject matter and uh sort of rip from the headlines, I thought it was cool. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Oh I'm very excited about this. I need it. I've been desperate for movie recommendation like a light. 00:54:43 Speaker 3: Let's just flip this thing on before we get to that movie. Just so you know. 00:54:46 Speaker 4: It's not a rom column. It's meat Matt. He's a knight during the Crusades. But one thing he wants to find someone. 00:54:59 Speaker 2: Okay, this is that's an excellent recommendation. But now we have to play the game. This is how we play gift Master. I'm gonna name three things, three potential gifts you can give away, and then I'm gonna name three celebrities. You're gonna tell me which celebrity, Uh you'll give which gift? And why does that make sense? I have three gifts and three celebrities, and I have to get dole them out. Only why this sort of thing? Easy enough? 00:55:20 Speaker 3: Okay, I did this in real life all the time. 00:55:22 Speaker 2: Of course, Well you're you're running in your celebrity circles and you're gonna have all these gifts to give kind of a Santa style bag over your shoulder. Okay, these are the gifts. Number one is a floor length skirt. So this is kind of a skirt from hip to ankle. Uh maybe of any fabric you want. That's up to you. 00:55:44 Speaker 3: Number only the citing factor is its length. Everything else is up to. 00:55:48 Speaker 2: Me, Yes, very much up to you. So it's just gonna be you know, covering. Got it? So corn floor length skirts? And now are we talking about fresh corn? Dried corn? I was picturing fresh corn? Fresh corn, I mean eventually shocked or not? 00:56:08 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, so yellow yellow, just in fact sort of beaded. 00:56:13 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like a. 00:56:13 Speaker 4: Beaded almost like a chain mail, actually like a chain mail, but fresh and washed and floor length. 00:56:21 Speaker 2: Mice chasing after it, trying to. 00:56:23 Speaker 4: Get a little nibble maybe, I mean, depending on where you're wearing it. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: Right through a field or what have you. Okay, corn floor length skirt. A Number two is a this is practical a reusable straw. Well that's just a tiny thing you can throw in your bag and then you're you know, out and you don't need to use the plastics. Not corn it could be corn corn, let's be honest, could be corn, but not necessary, not necessarily be specific, and then snaxts one of whether or not. The third item you'll be giving is a prehensile tail. So that's like a tail like a monkey has that, like curls around objects or other animals, probably them to, but I think they're almost like a hand or an arm where they have some level of control. 00:57:06 Speaker 4: Right, it's a utilitarian, Yes, it's not just decorative and it's but it's like anatomical Yes, oil. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: Be sealed to this person's body for the rest of time. And the people you'll be giving them to are Number one, Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray Sure, in Access Hollywood and Excess Hollywood. How could we forget? 00:57:28 Speaker 3: I think at this point it might, Yes, mostly Access Hollywood. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: Number two is Andre three thousand Love Yes. And number three, now this is an interesting one. Speaking of friends earlier, David Shwimmer. 00:57:45 Speaker 3: David Swimmer, David Sure he did quite well? 00:57:47 Speaker 2: He did what financially? Yeah? Yeah, Just when I see David Swimmer in anything, I don't have like a strong opinion of him in any direction artistically or anything like that. 00:58:00 Speaker 3: Personally. I don't know him. I just think he did quite well. 00:58:03 Speaker 2: That's such a good blanket statement for so many people. He did quite well. I didn't just walk away. 00:58:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say I did see him in a hotel gym once. 00:58:13 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he And that's that's what I thought. 00:58:17 Speaker 2: Was he uh, exercise by treadmill? 00:58:21 Speaker 3: No like intense weightlifting? 00:58:24 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and incredibly in shape and yeah, very very chiseled and handsome and put together. 00:58:31 Speaker 4: The clothes were impeccable. This is not the David Swimmer I think of. But you're wrong, because he did quite well, not really financially, but in that hotel, in that hotel, Jim, he not. He not only did quite well. I was thinking, well, he's doing quite well. 00:58:49 Speaker 2: So he every tense, every tense of the verb. Yes, he's got it. Yeah, he will do quite well. 00:58:56 Speaker 4: But also so yeah, that's my take on David's for the world that I've been waiting to drop. 00:59:04 Speaker 2: Reveal. 00:59:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelvin breaks his silence finally. 00:59:11 Speaker 4: Okay, So Swimmer McGrath andy three thousand, I mean all, yeah. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: Well, Mark McGrath harder to say. Well, We'll just say, for nicest purposes, they all did quite well. 00:59:24 Speaker 3: They all did quite well. No, you can't. 00:59:26 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, we're talking about him here in twenty twenty two. There's no question he did quite well. Corn skirt to the floor. What's the word you use? 00:59:36 Speaker 2: Tail or length? No, no for tail, oh, prehensile, prehensile tail and then reusable straw, usable straw. See the intuition intuitive choices to give that skirt to Andre three thousand, Right, you just feel like he's I mean, we should almost google corn floor length skirt, may. 00:59:55 Speaker 4: Have already done this. So for that reason, I'm not going to give something that the. 01:00:00 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, he probably Wow, you want to give a repeat gift? No, he's gonna go Now I have three What am I supposed to do with this? 01:00:07 Speaker 3: Right? 01:00:08 Speaker 2: So he probably gets that straw? 01:00:12 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, because he seems like a reasonable guy and he's probably in the phase of his life where he's starting to think about sustainability and you know, giving back. 01:00:24 Speaker 2: This makes perfect sense to me. He feels, despite being flashy and fun, has always seemed also practical. Yes, I I one of my celebrity crushes. Andre three thousand, completely justified. 01:00:39 Speaker 4: Yes, so cool, He's almost like, I mean, this is an overstatement, but it's like a Bowie type character where you're like, oh, this guy is laps ahead of culture. Yes, and we'll understand him in like thirty years. Right has never made like a glaringly bad move. No, and his music, if you play it now, sounds modern, whereas a lot of the music of that time sounds very old. 01:01:01 Speaker 2: Yes, it feels Oh, I'm listening to something from nineteen ninety nine. 01:01:04 Speaker 4: Right and so, which actually I do a lot of problem not a problem to nineteen ninety nine and people. 01:01:10 Speaker 2: Who love we do send this back in time. I just want to cover our bases here travel Elementary Podcast. 01:01:16 Speaker 4: Hi, my name's Kyle from nineteen ninety nine. I have been listening to your podcast, and I want you to know that I will. 01:01:21 Speaker 2: Not happy with some of the statements made on this week's episode canceled. Okay, soing Andre the reusable strug. He seems like he would appreciate it perfect. Yeah. 01:01:32 Speaker 4: He seems like he'd look you dead in the eye and say thanks. And he also seems like someone who loves a cool drink. He does seem like he loves a cool drink, and like you said, practical when you look at him, he looks like he's going from this event to something else. He's gonna go, right, He's never at rest. No, he's like a nephew's you know, birthday party. And then later on tonight he's meeting friends in a movie. 01:01:55 Speaker 2: That's a perfectly given gift, okay and thoughtful not giving him the skirt. 01:01:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going to need that. And then the the prehensile tail, which I will use again today just to lock it in. 01:02:07 Speaker 2: God knows if I'm pronouncing that correctly. To be honest, I'm no tail experts. Let's just put it out there, Okay, it's good to. 01:02:15 Speaker 3: Say that that. 01:02:16 Speaker 2: My my options are McGrath and uh Simmer Swimmer. 01:02:23 Speaker 4: I think uh, I think I'm gonna give that tail to Shwimmer. 01:02:26 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, and why because he did so well and I feel like he like, what do you give the guy who has everything given the thing that he can't he can't purchase and you can't you can't not yet, not yet. Yeah, I mean I think some companies are working on it, some tech pros. Yeah, there's somebody in the Bay Area right now, not yet as we stand here today, not yet. And so he's gonna go I have everything. But and now I have every and now I'm swinging around the house. I'm getting things on the top shelf with my tail. Right, he's so in shape, and he's so he's so, he's so sort of physically powerful. 01:03:11 Speaker 3: Problem, if I. 01:03:11 Speaker 2: Refuse to believe that David Trummer. 01:03:13 Speaker 4: Is financially powerful, the tail is just gonna push him to that next level. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Well, it gives him another thing to work out at the gym. Yeah, that's the thing is No, none of us thought there was another level for swimmer, and and yet this is going to get him there. And then so that leaves us with for some ready, I have the memory of like a grandfather looking for his glasses right now, well, looking for the floor length skirmet of corn, the corn McGrath. Yeah, And I think McGrath is one of those guys in my mind who's very entrenched in a certain era. Yeah. 01:03:55 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true because I haven't seen him recently, but to me, he represents that that era. So I think a floor length corn skirt is gonna help him like open some opportunities, right, rebrand slightly brand yeah, and like like you know that is very sustainable. So that's really you know, corn. 01:04:18 Speaker 2: It's that, I mean, all joking aside is probably almost a thing. 01:04:23 Speaker 3: It's probably the almost the thing. 01:04:24 Speaker 4: It seems were intensive, So maybe sort of class based because you probably need a good amount. 01:04:30 Speaker 2: Do you think about the syrup for making out of corn? 01:04:33 Speaker 3: Absolutely corn syrup? Corn? Like you said, I think, don't we make utensils out of corn? 01:04:38 Speaker 2: Yeah? We make so many things I feel like are made out of corn at this point, so why not corn shirts? Maybe they dissolve in the rain? Corn the problem? They could call them corn shyrups. See corn industry. The corn syrup may be on its way out, but corn syrups. 01:04:56 Speaker 3: Yeah. And here's the other thing. 01:04:58 Speaker 4: Is McGrath, Unfortunately, in my and this might not be true for everybody else, is known for one song. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: Yes and so, or maybe two I think the second songs. There's the uh uh I just want to fly, I just want to fly. That was the first one, and then there's the. 01:05:12 Speaker 4: One this morning ever morn everyone the crown, yeah on the bed or what Yeah, So now it'll be I just want to fly every morning, floor length floor scorn skirt. So he's got three, so everybody kind of wins here we get a hit new song on the radio. Jack fam is playing it over and over. 01:05:29 Speaker 3: Do you know if I got those right? You got those perfect? 01:05:32 Speaker 2: Okay? 01:05:32 Speaker 3: Great, great, great great. 01:05:33 Speaker 2: I feel like you really dodged a bullet with the giving the skirt to Andre three thousand, which was it was such a gimmey. It seemed like such an obvious choice, and you made the thoughtful decision to think. 01:05:44 Speaker 3: I don't know who you think you invited here today. 01:05:48 Speaker 2: Well, I thought I was inviting someone who would not show up with a gift, and so obviously there have been a surprise after surprise after surprise. 01:05:54 Speaker 3: I understand. 01:05:55 Speaker 2: Uh, okay. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails. People write into I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. They have questions, they need answers. Their lives are either slowly or quickly spiraling out of control, and so we step in and try to hit the brakes a little bit, try to bring them back from the brink. Will you answer a question with me? 01:06:16 Speaker 3: Sure? 01:06:17 Speaker 2: Okay? This says Hello Bridger and dumbfounding guests, so that adjective seems appropriate. Yeah, I'll take that on today. Sure, I do apologize own it. My sister and I used to be very close dot dot dot. For the past two years, our relationship has become rocky as we navigate growing into different age ranges and dynamics with each other. Her thirty two, me twenty six. But are those both well? I think what I feel like one is a young millennial and one is a old zoomer old gen z. Her wedding is in October. I adore her new partner and want for us to have a healthy relationship. What's a gift that says I care about you a lot, even though you're too high strung and bothering most of the time. But I hope you have a really good life, I guess, Sincerely, Travis. 01:07:11 Speaker 3: So Travis, he's. 01:07:13 Speaker 2: Not apparently does not like his sister, but is no balling head over heels with the sisters. Yeah, and also I think Travis might be hung up on age more than the sisters. Sense. 01:07:27 Speaker 4: I bet the sister doesn't think about this at all. Well, I'm twenty six now, so clearly the gulf between us is it's unbridgible. 01:07:37 Speaker 2: There's no way we will ever be able to speak the same that thirty two really you think you're gonna get my experience? You dinosaur, You're almost dead. I'm looking into homes for you, how am I? So? 01:07:50 Speaker 4: Maybe a subscription to the AARP or some type of pacemaker that you can use in the next six months. 01:07:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's I'm let's be honest. Older sister is geriatric. 01:08:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:08:05 Speaker 4: Do you even need to go to this wedding? Is she gonna make it to this? That's the real question here. 01:08:11 Speaker 2: Why you need to be buying a gift that could double Is something for yourself, Travis, like. 01:08:15 Speaker 4: A grieving gift for the party. Oh my god, Travis. I'm sorry. I think Travis, you I will say, I think thirty two is a pivotal age ish and I think you should recognize you're not wrong, Travis. 01:08:33 Speaker 3: We joke, but you're not wrong. 01:08:35 Speaker 4: Twenty six you're still living in some kind of French indie film. 01:08:40 Speaker 2: You're smoking, you're smoking skateboarding. 01:08:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, the music is very uh twee, and you're two inches off the ground. You take buses because of good book. Yeah, you read good books, right, you read whole good books. Finish the book. Your sister is. You're not wrong thinking about rugs blenders, sun spots. 01:09:04 Speaker 2: Right, Will I ever be able to pay the mortgage? Yes, get a mortgage. 01:09:09 Speaker 4: Get a mortgage. Knee replacement surgery. Kids, There is a slight you will see, and I hate to be condescending, but you will see there are bigger shifts as you get older. But I agree with you your from your vantage point twenty six thirty two. 01:09:25 Speaker 3: Those are different places. 01:09:26 Speaker 4: So I would get her something very domestic, unapologetically, because it is you do think about those things. 01:09:33 Speaker 2: Right, practical, practical home goods. 01:09:36 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:09:37 Speaker 4: I when we bought our house, I want it was like important to me to like live kind of near a like abbot Kinney or somewhere you know, like that we could. I don't give a shit anymore. I don't want to live, you know, in hours away from you know, in in Barstow. But but I but I don't care anymore about that. And it was only like two years later that I realized that I did not need to be able to like stumble out of it. And actually it's a liability and there's all kinds of dangers like people riding their bikes down their house on the way to the bar. 01:10:10 Speaker 2: Very dangerous, yes, very dangerous. 01:10:11 Speaker 4: I now am shut in and I scream at people if they come anywhere near our mailbox. You want to be cozy at home, yeah, you, But but there is a shift. So I would think domestic. I would think a way to make her home life a little more convenient, a little more like and I kid you, not like a My my most used, most loved wedding gift was a good espresso machine. 01:10:38 Speaker 2: Oh that's an excellent one, because everyone kind of has a coffee machine that does the job. 01:10:42 Speaker 4: That said, it's like two thousand dollars to get a good one, the really nice ones. But you can get like an espresso one for a couple hundred bucks. Oh okay, And then she's not having to go to write the six dollar latte, right, you know, four days week. 01:10:57 Speaker 2: And then and then she every time she makes a cup of oh, she's thinking about you and how you're drifting apart. 01:11:03 Speaker 4: Yes, so even though you haven't talked to her in sixty eight years, she's forced to consider your existence every morning. 01:11:11 Speaker 2: You haunt her. Yeah, her first thought every morning is, oh, my brother, I need not not before my coffee, not before I've regretted what I did to my relationship with my brother. I want that on a mug, right, and then so that's six years. So when he's thirty two, she'll be thirty eight. Boyl boy, oh boy, here we go again, Travis. You she's headed towards forty and you're thinking about, yeah, maybe moving into a house. At that point, she'll just be kind of babbling a nonsensically at the ceiling and not sure if you're in the moon. If she's lucky, if she's so lucky, right her mind is going. I feel like that's great. I mean, obviously, Travis prefers the fiance maybe a gift card to a restaurant that you know that your sister doesn't like. So you get to go with the fiance that's always in to. 01:11:58 Speaker 4: Begin the building block of that relationship. Right, really, jump ship right now. 01:12:03 Speaker 2: Right so when the inevitable divorce happens, you'll get to be friends with this person and your sister will have the well, actually no, because you won't have given her the espress. So Travis, you're gonna have to figure this math out on your own. You are the one that has treated your sister so poorly. 01:12:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's time for maybe a mirror a picture of yourself looking in the mirror. Yeah, she knows what you've thought about, what you've done. 01:12:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis, it's time to You're still young. You can make the choices that we'll get you back on the right path and back into the glowing realm of your sister. 01:12:40 Speaker 1: Ye. 01:12:41 Speaker 2: And I mean it's a good thing you wrote into this podcast. 01:12:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:12:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think thank you for digging deep and realizing your wrongs. 01:12:49 Speaker 2: Yes, a family saved and we do what we can, which is a lot. It's so much. It takes so much time, and it's almost too much. Travis, it's too much. I haven't even had lunch yet. It's really it's wild the things I will do for a listener. 01:13:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did it, and now Travis can Venmo you. 01:13:12 Speaker 2: Travis Venmo make Yeah, five to six thousand dollars. That's a starting point. That's you know, I think you can let your imagination run. 01:13:20 Speaker 3: Not including the gift. Don't don't recoup the. 01:13:22 Speaker 2: Gift right process, Kelvin, I now have two practical items, one which is cute, one which is terrifying. I'm thrilled to have them. 01:13:33 Speaker 3: Great. 01:13:33 Speaker 4: I'm glad that worked out. It was it was a dicey choice to bring a gift. 01:13:37 Speaker 2: It was a dicey choice, but ultimately we came together. I feel like we can leave this podcast and without anger. 01:13:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:13:45 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, some people get to swimmer and some people just get take the small, small win. 01:13:52 Speaker 3: Although today we'll take the small win. 01:13:54 Speaker 2: Take the small win, and maybe it takes a lot of building to get to a swimmer. 01:13:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how you do that. 01:14:01 Speaker 2: For somebody to be saying he did, well, that's a lifetime of work, luck and uh work, yeah work. Now, well, thank you for being here. I've had a wonderful time with you. 01:14:13 Speaker 3: It was fantastic. Thank you so much, Anise. 01:14:14 Speaker 2: Then listener, Oh, the episode's over. We made it through the neighbors. We're so polite not to do the construction. God bless them. They're back in my good graces. You continue to be in my good graces. But the episode does have to end, so you have to move on and do whatever you're going to do with your day. I'm wishing you the best of luck. I love you, goodbye, I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle Worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:15:11 Speaker 1: But I invited you hear. 01:15:16 Speaker 5: Thought. 01:15:16 Speaker 1: I made myself perfectly clear. 01:15:20 Speaker 2: But you're a. 01:15:20 Speaker 1: Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no gifts, your own presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me?