1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests. 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: You're our presences presents enough, and I already had too 5 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Wineger. I'll 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: be guiding you through today's episode. You'll be listening and 8 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: paying attention, potentially taking notes if something's broken in your mind. 9 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: We're in the backyard as of right now. The neighbors 10 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: not renovating their home, but the birds are chirping, and 11 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: we'll hopefully keep it that way. We may have some 12 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: garbage trucks drive through the neighborhood at some point. That 13 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: would be a fun little surprise. But I think we 14 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: should get into today's episode with today's guest, who's so 15 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: funny and wonderful, Kelvin. You Kelvin, And I said, no gifts. Thanks, 16 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: thanks for having me, thanks for being here, Thanks Thanks Tate. Well, 17 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: knock on wood. Whatever they're building back there has got 18 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: to be gorgeous. Two mechanical bulls. Two you're saying building 19 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: the mechanical We're building mechanical bulls back there. I would 20 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: not be surprised if they were riding and building mechanical 21 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: and shoot. 22 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: That's the free mechanical bull access for you. 23 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: And when was the last time you're on a mechanical bull? 24 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: I think my first birthday party. No, I don't think 25 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: I've ever been on a mechanical bull. You know, I 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: may have been on one, because there was a time 27 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: I was going to Austin, Texas quite a bit, and 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: I vaguely remember going. You know, it used to be 29 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: kind of a cool thing to do on Sunset Boulevard. 30 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember that. 31 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe there's a something Saddle Yeah, Saddle Ranch 32 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: was like a big they have and they had somebody 33 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: on the mechanical bowl. What a cringe world we were 34 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: living in, just not that long ago, I mean within 35 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: the last seven years easily easily just no sanitizer, just 36 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: people touching the same bowl trunk. Now we all have 37 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: our own bowl. 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: Now it's more of like a home bowl situation that 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: you order, you don't go anywhere, you just have the 40 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: bull come to you. 41 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember those early days of the pandemic, the 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: bull being delivered to my house. I guess I'll just 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: do that. 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: Just leave the bull in the front door, don't touch 45 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: the don't touch anything. 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: I'll build it myself. 47 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: And then just days and days of riding the bull, 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: kind of in silence, said, the tears streaming down my face. 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: But now I found you learned so much about yourself. 51 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: And oh my god, you. 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: Didn't realize you were baking, you were bull riding. You 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: were thinking, you were quiet. 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, now talking about I don't know. 55 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I asked you, like, when was the time 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: you're on a bowl? Like everyone's done it. I've never 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: done it. 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah no, you don't. 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, neither, none of none of us here seem like 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: are giving off real bull rider energy. On Elise, have 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: you ever been on a bowl? Never? But I wouldn't 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: rule it out. Okay, right, it's a good answer. I 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't last one second on a mechanical bowl. I would 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: absolutely literally be thrown, and not in a fun way. 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: It would be a way that ruins the party. 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it wouldn't be fun. Sometimes it's fun, 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: but I don't think that'd be fun. It feels like 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: it seems like it requires a set of muscles that 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: I don't use, you know what I mean, Like when 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: you think about what somebody doing it, Well, right, it's 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: not a part of my body that I'm like accessing. 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know what I mean. I think it's 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: literally all of your body. You've got to have the 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: finger or strength, you've got to have the arm strength. 75 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Your thighs are absolutely gripping that bowl. That's right, that's right, 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: gripping the bowl in a way that's like not with respect, 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: It's tasteful, No, not tasteful. There's anger involved. You sort 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: of have to transition anger into your thighs like a 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: yoga instructor would tell you to do. 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: But in reverse. 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: Do yoga instructors say put anger in your thighs. 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: They don't say that, but I do. I will say, 84 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: and I'd like doing yoga, and at one point I 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: was doing a lot of it. They say things that 86 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: that are not allowed to be said in any other context, 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: and you're so right there, like she'll say, seck and 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: just like just forgive your hips right now, and you're like, 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: that's right, I'll just forgive my hips. And if somebody 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: were to say that on the street you would either 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: laugh or like maybe go to slap them or something. 92 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: But like but in that moment, you're like, of course, 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 3: of course I should forgive. 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let go of this decade's long grudge in 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: my hips. 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: Today's the day we put this thing to. 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't think about my hips that often. 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: No, And when you're doing yoga, you do. 99 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: And that's the point of it, I think, is to 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: like think about your hips, forgive them, apologize. It's like, 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: and so you used to do yoga a lot and 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: you've given up. Is that what I feel like? There 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: was a lot put into my mind. And yes, you 104 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: nailed it. 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: No, I did a lot of yoga at one point, 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: you know, I just really I'll get right into it. 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: I was a cigarette smoker in my. 108 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: Twenties, okay, and I quit smoking like on the dot, 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: like thirty. Like I was not turkey basically, wow. 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: Basically I think I had tried twice for like six 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: months or nine months or something. And that's really defeating, 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: is to like go cold for like six months and 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 4: then put that thing, you know. Oh yeah, And then 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 4: so what I started doing was swimming in this is 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 4: like nineteen fifty three. It feels so, yeah, I'm a hobbit. 116 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's clear from a podcast standpoint. 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: And uh, And I started swimming at the y and 118 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: then I started doing a lot of yoga. And in 119 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: some ways, I don't know if it's just some kind 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: of like mental trick, but put sucking on a cigarette 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: after you've gone swimming for an hour feels really self defeating. 122 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: It's like pooping after you shower. 123 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like, y'all just hold the 124 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: poop for a couple hours, just so it's not so 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: you know. 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: Like immediately demolishing what you've done. 127 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: Right, right, all that soap. 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: And so I would swim and I would be so 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: tired that I would wouldn't want to say, in your 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: lungs feel, you know, huge and so and then I 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: did a lot of yoga, and that was the way 132 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: I would every time I wanted to smoke a cigarette, 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: I would do like fifteen minutes of yoga. 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, like ten minutes of yoga just breathing heavy things. Yeah, 135 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: I think that'll make you focus on your lungs. 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: Combined with really not wanting may be a smoker, right, right, 137 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: it's but I miss it. Like when I what I 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: smell a cigarette, I have like a Pavlovian like because 139 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: I was I was such a asshole in my twenties 140 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: and I like sort of like, oh, I remember that guy, 141 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: like like. 142 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, tied up with all of these fond memories of 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: life being full of possibilities exactly late nights out with 144 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: friends smoking on the corner. 145 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you might associate with like you know, Hong 146 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: Kong cinema or. 147 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah cool, like of course there's a little edge. 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, So but you say goodbye to that guy now 149 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: it's just Lacroix, and you'll. 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Go, I also have their edge, right, and they're place 151 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: in Hong Kong Cinema. 152 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: Right would And what I mean by that is I 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: smoke Lacroix. That sounds extremely dangerous, like that spoon like mess. 154 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: That's a TikTok trend, just waiting to Oh my god, 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: execs for thinking right now in their cars like wait 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: a minute, that's that can we is. 157 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: That they've probably hit the ceiling with say, with normal 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: Lacroix ysage. So we've got to find another way. This 159 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: is expansion, This is the mainlining. 160 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: This stuff free base, it'll come out with like a 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 4: corporate response saying not to do it. He's yeah, they don't, 162 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: but if you do, all new Lacroix spoons will be 163 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: available at your local supermarket. 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea, Lacroix. You've been looking for 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: that new edge. 166 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now let me ask you about beginning smoking. Was 168 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: that was? It? Was it like a peer pressure situation, 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: was a thing like, well, maybe I'll just start smoking. 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: It was even more shameful. 171 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: It was for like a graduate film that I had 172 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: that I had agreed to do, and I was thinking, 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 4: I was nineteen and they needed a guy who could skateboard. 174 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: Okay, so all I had to do was skateboard down 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: the street. I didn't even have like a good role 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: in this thing. And I remember they were like, it 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: would be cool if you. 178 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: If you smoked a cigarette or something like that, because 179 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: everybody knows skateboarding and cigarettes. Right, you had some glass, Yeah, 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: was playing, Yeah, probably no sleeves, I'm guessing, and uh, 181 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: Born than the Wild was definitely playing. And uh, I 182 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: remember they sent the wardrobe girl to come teach me 183 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: how to smoke a cigarette, and so I smoked like 184 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: five cigarettes for like, you know, for free, zero money 185 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: for a movie that nobody will ever see. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, 186 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: decades ago. And but at the end of that, I 187 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: was like, I can smoke a cigarette now. And then 188 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 4: the next time I think I was, you know, a 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: round cigarettes, I was like, give me one. 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: And then for about nine. 191 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: Years, so when she was teaching you, was like how 192 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: to hold it in your hand, how to just inhale 193 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: in general. 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: And I remember she she was gross and and she 195 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: just didn't seem like the kind of person. She seemed 196 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: unhealthy and bitter and you know, and and so I'm 197 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: learning and smelled you know, like cigarettes, because she was 198 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: a smoker. I mean, who's the person that you're like, hey, 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: send that person to go to cigarette coach. Not not 200 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: to be you know, pejorative about cigarette smokers, because like 201 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: I said, I miss it, and I do think it's cool. 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: Teens. Are you listening. 203 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: I do respect people who smoke more than people who don't. 204 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna probably untold health benefits that we've yet 205 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: to discovered because of cultural bias. So I'm really trying 206 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: to play both sides. You of course, so you can't 207 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: alienate anyone there no. 208 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Right, So and then you just smoke because you're dumb 209 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: and you're insecure and you need now you look at 210 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: your phone. But then you needed some reason to step outside, 211 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: for something to do with your hands, little something to 212 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: o their hands, the little reason to take deep breaths. 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: So why not inhale tar and corporate? You know, right? 214 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: And so those first five cigarettes, what was I've never 215 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: smoked a cigarette before. 216 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: It is today the day. 217 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Today's the day. I hope that, hopefully the rest of 218 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: this episode we find a giant carton of cigarettes in 219 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: a bag or something. Oh. I feel like some people 220 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: were like initially kind of lightheaded or nauseous when they saw. 221 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, like vomit vomited. 222 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Is wow? 223 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: Light headed? Yeah, it's a terrible thing to do. I 224 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: can't imagine. I mean you should. It should be actionable 225 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 4: to take a nineteen year old who's on a skateboard, 226 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: who was hired because he could skateboard. 227 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: Because he's very cool. Yeah, because he just has one 228 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: thing missing. 229 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you have a child. 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: I probably had like a little spinny fan on my 231 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: hat or something, you know, like to bring him to 232 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: the side of the tent because we were on a tent. 233 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: We were outside of Okie Dog. I don't know if 234 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: Oki Dog still exists. Well, I've heard of Okie Dog. 235 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: It may not still, it may not exist anymore. But 236 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: it was a also gross hot dog place that involved 237 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: hot dogs being chopped up and put inside of a 238 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: tortilla with three fried beans. 239 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's why I've heard of this. That doesn't 240 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: sound good at all. 241 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they offer vegan options and sure 242 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: various still not getting any better from maybe yeah, and 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 4: then they and so we were outside of Oaky Dog, 244 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: you know, at three o'clock in the morning for a 245 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: night shoot. And I was just there to skate, to 246 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: ride a skateboard, and next thing I know, I have, 247 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: you know, pre cancerous habits. 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Eating hot dogs and smoking cigarettes and just living the 249 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: life every twenty year old dreams, right. 250 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at this age now, I can't imagine 251 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: looking at a nineteen year old and being like, I'm 252 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: going to instill something in you that will take you 253 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: a decade to fight. 254 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. And was the film produced and 255 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: directed by other students? 256 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was one of those things. 257 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: I think I was, you know, I was a theater 258 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: kid at UCLA, and it was one of those things 259 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: that people were looking for graduate films and things to 260 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: get on the reel or get of course, of course, 261 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: and it was worth it. And has it worked in 262 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: the film in the last five years. I don't think 263 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: I ever saw the film Wow, And you probably don't 264 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: want to. Well, I think it'll probably come out soon. 265 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: It'll do. I think it'll do quite well in today's market. 266 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: My is my guest, and I have no reason to 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: believe that, but I just feel like this is this 268 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: is gonna work, and this. 269 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Is the time, this is the time. And so you skateboard? 270 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Do you actually skateboard? 271 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: I did. 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't the cost benefit calculus of skateboarding in your 273 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: thirties and forties really changing, right. 274 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: I do surf quite a lot. Terrible. 275 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: I've been surfing for my whole life. But you're still terrible. 276 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm still terrible. It's one of those things. 277 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: It's like, do you have anything like that where you're like, 278 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: you've been doing it for almost everything, and you're no, 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: but you've been doing it forever and you're okay with kidding. 280 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: I kind of can't tell you one thing that I'm 281 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: like oh, I'm an ex I've started young, and how 282 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm an expert. 283 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: No, but something you do a lot that you're like 284 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: the ceiling for me is already touching the top of 285 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: my head and I've been touching it for several years. 286 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: Video games. Video games are something I play so much. 287 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: You and I'm still bad. Really why but you love it. 288 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: I still have a good time doing it. But like 289 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: the moment I'm like playing like a game with another person. Yeah, Like, oh, 290 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm I guess I'll just never be good at this. 291 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it becomes clear your shame is public right right 292 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: right Well. With surfing, I there are days out there 293 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: you might see me and think, Okay, that guy can 294 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: do a thing. Sure he does the thing that we 295 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: were talking about the other days. A lot of days 296 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: you might be like, that's cool that that guy's trying something. Yeah, 297 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: and it's like twenty five years in the making. 298 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: He was on vacation. 299 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: I thought he would try that. Oh honey, look he 300 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: bought a board three hours ago. He got he invested 301 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: way too much into this thing. 302 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Should we help? I have my finger on nine one 303 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: one just in case. Let's keep an eye on it. 304 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: When you're when you say, do a thing on a surfboard, 305 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Is that like a trick? Is 306 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: that like? Oh? 307 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: No, I mean I That's the thing about it is 308 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: it is private, generally private. You go with friends sometimes, 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: but you can also go alone, which I do because 310 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: I go early. 311 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm a five am. 312 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, sure, I have one buddy that I go 313 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: with quite a bit, but a lot of times it's alone. 314 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: And then it's just all dependent on the waves. And 315 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: in La County we kind of have crappy waves, right, 316 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: So if you were to live in San Diego, Orange County, 317 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: or Hawaii or Mexico or something, Santa Barbara even, you 318 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: get much better waves. But here there it's all just 319 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,479 Speaker 4: what we call gravel. 320 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just kind of groveling. 321 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Okay, but it's good for you. 322 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: It's sort of meditative and then you feel cool. 323 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, on top of the world, do you 324 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: ever travel to surf. 325 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: I've served Hawaii, I've served up and down California. I 326 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: have never served Mexico, actually, which is a weird thing 327 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: for somebody to serve this long, right, But there's great 328 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: waves in Mexico and it's warm. 329 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: Where is Hawaii kind of the destination for surfing. 330 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean some people might say, no, yeah, it's why 331 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: it's the center of the universe. Yeah, but yeah, that's 332 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: something I'm bad at or generally not as good as 333 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: you would absolutely scientifically think, right. And another thing like 334 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: that is guitar and piano. Like I because I'm an 335 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: Asian American kid, you know, in California, I took piano 336 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: or violin wanted it too, or you just get sent 337 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: to an island, I think. And so I took piano 338 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: lessons for eleven years, and I'm so bad at me. 339 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: I took piano lessons for about the same amount of time. 340 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: Don't got it? 341 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely so bad. 342 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: I don't got it. 343 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could, like form a chord, sure, exactly, 344 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: but I can't site read. 345 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: No, I've been at the same level since like ninety three. 346 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I started, I probably learned for the 347 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: first three years and then I I mean I begain 348 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: resenting it very quickly. And then it was mad that 349 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: I had to go to piano lessons, yes, and learned 350 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: nothing for seven to eight years. Shut that door in 351 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: your brain, yes, yes, which is such a shame. 352 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, such a shame. 353 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: I'd love to be at an rdstrum and sit down 354 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: at the piano and play for the other shop. 355 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 356 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 4: And our piano teacher hated me, and my mom was 357 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: convinced she could find him a wife, and so so 358 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: every week she would present him with new candidates. To Mary, 359 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: did you ever have piano recitals? 360 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 361 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: And I did them with my brother. Sometimes we had duets. 362 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: They were horrifying and terrible, and they would address us 363 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: the same, Oh, that's adorable. No, it's a form of 364 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: slow torture over months. And then I don't know if 365 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: you ever did this, but there was like an aptitude 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: test we would also take. 367 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: No, it sounds like you went to a much better 368 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: piano teacher than I did. I don't know why they 369 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: would do that, but it was a way of like 370 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: like signifying your level, so, you know, like standardized testing 371 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: or something. 372 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: Got I hated it. 373 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: Did you would you pass the tests? Though? 374 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 4: I probably only did two and yes, but with a 375 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: lot of anger and like, my brain is so attached 376 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: to the emotional place. 377 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: You were not proud to pass the test. 378 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: No. 379 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: No, I vaguely remember literally falling asleep during lessons. So 380 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: I think my my teacher was you know, my teacher 381 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 4: was justified. Imagine like teaching somebody and then realizing they're asleep. 382 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh of course, yeah, that's what feeling. Now. Was your 383 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: brother on the same page basically, or was he He 384 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: was a violin and then so you were like at 385 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: the same piano playing. No, and then he also had 386 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: to take piano for a moment, so he was no. No, 387 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: none of this was consensual. This is all. 388 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: This is all completely non consensual. Parent. 389 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: Did you get to pick these songs you would play 390 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: at the result? 391 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 392 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, no, you did go to a an objectively 393 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: better piano teacher than me. 394 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: We got to pick the song. We were all over 395 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: the place, so like Forever Your Girl by Paula Abdul, 396 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: and it. 397 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Was like, that's not that far from the one I 398 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: can really remember. Is I played I'll Be There for You, 399 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: the Friends theme song. 400 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: Oh, I'll be there. 401 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: I was about the bon Jovi version. Oh yeah, so 402 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: you're playing TV theme song? Yes? Uh. Started like from 403 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 2: like second to four fourth grade. I was playing like 404 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: the big hits from the Disney movies and then got 405 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: into us like I'll play all day I'll be there 406 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: for you. That was the last I think that was 407 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: probably like I. 408 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: Topped functional, you know what I mean. 409 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: That means you're thinking in the future, You're thinking, I'm 410 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: going to play this at parties. 411 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: This is this is. 412 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: Something that's going to come in handy because I'm parties 413 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: that sort of welcoming people. 414 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: In if if they ever come out with announcement from Friends, Hey, 415 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: we lost the person who normally played that every week, 416 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: and we need someone to play it. 417 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: You you were ready. 418 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: I was absolutely ready to go should the rem brands 419 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: be canceled, and then they needed a pianist to kind 420 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: of step in and play the song fly show. 421 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: Every Thursday, because that's how they did that. 422 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Warmed up the audience with my my piano stylings. 423 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: Very few people nationwide were ready, and yet there you are. 424 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: I would love for that show to start with just 425 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: a piano version of the song. It's not too late, friends, creators, 426 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: there's always a reboot. 427 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that would be a reason for to get 428 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: everybody back. Oh absolutely, that would be the only reason. Hey, 429 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: we had an idea call me back. We don't have 430 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: a lot of money, but but. 431 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: We do have a pianist who can play the first 432 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: the opening riff. Hey, Lisa, I know you're busy and 433 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: you're in Europe, but. 434 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: We found this guy. 435 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: Like this before. 436 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: One of my producers were listening to a podcast and 437 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: we found this guy. 438 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: He's ready to go. It's never too late. It's never 439 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: too late. Well, that's very exciting to hear. It's nice 440 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: to hear another person who took years of piano and 441 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: has almost nothing to show for us. 442 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: That's right. 443 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: It's it's good to spend time on something that you 444 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: have no receipts from. And I also think it's generally 445 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 4: good to be sort of like decent to mediocre at 446 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: a couple of things that you do regularly. I think 447 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: I think that's healthy, and I think that's probably I'm 448 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: going to be ageis here, but I think that's something 449 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: that maybe younger people aren't doing as much because they 450 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: have so many other things to do. 451 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: Right, They've got a whole map of things. 452 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you're you're just what am I? What else 453 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: am I gonna do? I'll just go play bad piano 454 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: for an hour. 455 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, to just kind of struggle through something and be like, 456 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: well I did it. 457 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 458 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: What about Minecraft? What's Minecraft? That's the person from the 459 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: future to talk to you. 460 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of struggling and having a hard time doing things, 461 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: I imagine you have a slightly hard time following directions. 462 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: I host a podcast that you're currently on called I 463 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: said no Gifts, and you agreed to be on it 464 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, and I was so excited. I 465 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: thought it rings a bell, Calvin's so funny. This will 466 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: be a delightful time in the backyard, and then we'll 467 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: get to kind of go our separate way ways with 468 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: fond memories of one another. So I was a little surprised, 469 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: little I won't say upset by shaken. I wasn't even shaken. 470 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: I'll just say things went through my mind when you 471 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: entered my backyard holding a brown bag with some i'll 472 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: say it delicious tissue popping out of the top of it. 473 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: It's green, it's white as sparkles all over it. 474 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: You can eat it. 475 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: I will be swallowing both pieces on this podcast. Well, 476 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: listen to me, die. I was a little surprised to 477 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: see you with this bag, so I have to ask, 478 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: is this a gift for me? 479 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: It is? 480 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 481 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: You should know that I don't like your rules and 482 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: I don't care about you should know that if it's 483 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: not clear enough, So this is guns are blazing. 484 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: Let's just be upfront about it. 485 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: It's not an edible gift, and yet I want you 486 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: to eat it, and you will eat it. 487 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: You came here as an assassin, let's just be very clear. 488 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: A terrible assassin that slowly watches his victims eat. The 489 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: least accurate assassin on the planet. Yeah, not batting a 490 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: high average A gift. 491 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: Has never heard of a sniper rifle, but has plenty 492 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: of gift bags to go around. We'll should I open 493 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: this here on the podcast? 494 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: I think you shouldn't. I think that would be fantastic. 495 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not I'm not gonna this little game of 496 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: chicken we're playing. I'm gonna keep just driving the car 497 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: down the road, and I'm going to open the gift. 498 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 5: Viewers are gonna love it. 499 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: Let's get this tissue. That's a nice light tissue. 500 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: The first time you've done it. 501 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: Okay, you do have a podcast, apparently, Oh. 502 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: I've got a podcast. Baby. We've got all the tissue 503 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: out and I'm now okay. There are two objects. The 504 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: first should I take this one out? 505 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 506 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: The first time saying oh, first I thought it was 507 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 2: just toilet paper. 508 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: It's not just toilet paper. 509 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: But now I'm saying it's san Rio brand toilet paper. 510 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: Do you know this character? 511 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I think I might know this character. Is 512 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: this the egg Yo the egg Yolk? 513 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is good At Tama, and I've always. 514 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: Been curious about him. I first became aware of him 515 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: there was like a crossover with a Hamburger restaurant. Sure, 516 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: but at the time, I don't. I don't think I 517 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: knew he was a Sanrio character. 518 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very popular. 519 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: He's part of the Hello Kitty family. 520 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's part of that family. I 521 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: mean maybe he's trying to be in that family and 522 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: hasn't yet succeeded. 523 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: But today could be a big step. 524 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it takes a little promotional, absolute little platform. 525 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: So I wasn't aware that san Rio had separate universes. 526 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't either. 527 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: I think you're mistaking me for an employee of the 528 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: Sanrio corporation, but I will brand. I did bring you 529 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: good At Tama, so he and I mightnnce be pronouncing 530 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: that wrong, but I did look it up. 531 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: His gou day Gouda. 532 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 4: I think is how you pronounce it is a like 533 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: a term for lazy in Japanese. Okay, tamago means egg. 534 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: He's lazy egg. Okay, So because you know I can, 535 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: I can say this. I think Asian people like to 536 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: decide who's lazy and who's not based on my parental upbringing. 537 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: I think that's really it's really important to figure out, Oh, 538 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: this character is not. 539 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: Lazy, this character is lazy. Well this I'll speak for everyone. 540 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: This egg is clearly lazy. Yeah, he's clearly lazy. It's 541 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: the laziest little egg in the world. 542 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: I'll never see him working, yeah, or even like looking 543 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: for work, you know, like it's one thing to not work, 544 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: it's another thing if you're looking. 545 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: Right actively, like going to the temp agency. 546 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 4: Is this sort of No, he's never even when you 547 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: ask him what he's up to, it's not a good answer. 548 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I will, but I will. I'm going to 549 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: try to feel what this character is feeling. He looks 550 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: also clinically depressed. 551 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: You know, that's more empathic than I think most people 552 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: have been to him. 553 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Of course, he looks like he doesn't care if he 554 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: lives or dies. 555 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: No, I think that's really what's going on. It should 556 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: be clinically depressed egg whatever that Japanese harder to sell, 557 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: harder to sell, harder to sell. But he is adorable 558 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: and he does come in plush toys and stickers and 559 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: apparently now toilet paper. 560 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: Toilet paper, uh design character design wise. I have notes about. 561 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: The Let's do them because I'm sure they're listening and 562 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: we can put them in email form. 563 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. I will type this up later on. Lisa is 564 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: taking notes as well. Sanrio Corp. Will send these to 565 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 2: h Q. But the yo, he is the yoke on 566 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: top of the white. He's almost using the white as 567 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: a blank. 568 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: That's true. I think that's what's going on. 569 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: Which choos to me the Sanrio Corporation has a fundamental 570 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: misunderstanding of how an egg even works. 571 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: So this is more of a biobiological note. 572 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 2: Right, It's like the egg is all one piece? 573 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that true? 574 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: Well? I work for Big Egg. I have kind of 575 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: an egg farm. 576 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're here with an agenda and I can hear it, 577 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: and nobody's buying this. I think he I think the 578 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: egg we're gonna make up science right now. 579 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that that's I mean that we won't 580 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: be the first podcast to do it. 581 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: I think the egg is the embryonic material, and yoke 582 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: around him is like some type of sack that feeds 583 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: the embryo. 584 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: No one will ever eat an egg again. 585 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: And you don't, Yeah, I don't think these are the 586 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: kinds of things you want to have in your brain. 587 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: You have to push these things away absolutely anytime you're 588 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: eating an animal product. 589 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: And we wonder why he's depressed because he knows something 590 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: that we all just. 591 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: Push down at push away. So I wonder how he 592 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: gets around? Oh, to fly around like a saucer, you're 593 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: it's pretty revealing that you have never. 594 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: Been depressed, because when you're depressed, you're not going anywhere. 595 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm crawling along the kitchen floor. 596 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: In today's world, you're ordering in. 597 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: How does he What I'm asking is how does he 598 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: get from the couch to the bed? Uh? He? 599 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: I think he has figured it out because I think 600 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: the bed is hit with him all the time. 601 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: That's the point of Yeah, how does he lay in 602 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: the shower crying? How does he lie sit still quietly? 603 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: I go after a good tama here. 604 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Because he danced onto my podcast, and now I've got 605 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: questions that everyone was begging to be answered. 606 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 4: I will say Japanese culture is fond of personifying food. 607 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of like sushi toys. 608 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: When you go to Japan, you see a lot of that. 609 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: Have you been? I have? I've been once? And uh yeah, 610 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean they're delightful characters everywhere. Yeah, and and. 611 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: And like surreal and kind of like almost psychedelic level 612 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: like imagination of like right, you know. 613 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, for example, depressed egg. 614 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: Depressed egg, that's totally fine to wipe your ass apparently 615 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: you know what I want. 616 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: Have you been to Japan? 617 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: Been a couple of times, but it's been a while. 618 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: I think the last time I went was over ten years. 619 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: Where did you go in Japan? I went to I've 620 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: been to Osaka, Kobe, Yokohama and Tokyo and BG. 621 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 622 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: I was hoping you would ask this. This is why 623 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: I requested that you asked this. But I will say, 624 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if we have a moment for this. 625 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: But I used to work for a Japanese barbecue restaurant 626 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: which was Yukaku Senaga. I opened that location, Breg. 627 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: What did you do there? I was a waiter Okay wonderful. 628 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: And apparently I wasn't I wasn't a bad waiter because 629 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: they wanted to be a man, me to be a manager. 630 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh I love to hear that. 631 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: So they sent me to Japan for seven days what 632 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: and on a corporate trip. And I pretended to want 633 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: to be a manager, so I could go to Japan 634 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: for seven days. And Yukaku has like twenty or thirty locations. 635 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: Let's say in America, there's eight hundred fifty in Japan. 636 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: Okay, oh my yeah, They're like Starbucks right there on 637 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: every corner. 638 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: And so there was this big giant like corporate uh 639 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: how do you say, like conference where five locations one 640 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: like location. It was almost like the Oscars, and it 641 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: was fake smoke, no, and each one came out. The 642 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: first one comes out, and I have an earwig and 643 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: so I can hear an English translator this is. And 644 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: the first one comes out, and there's like ten people 645 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: that work at this this location, and they're dancing to 646 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: kiss me by six nuts and on the richer and 647 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: it's like kiss me and they and they all hit 648 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: the stage and then the first person starts talking or 649 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 4: the only person and they start showing like profit and 650 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: lost grafts, and he's I'm not going to do the 651 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: impression because I can't seak Japanese, but he's doing like 652 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: impassioned Japanese. And over the course of like forty five minutes, 653 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: he starts screaming and crying, Oh my god about but 654 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: in my ear it's going like and then we introduce 655 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: to the hour in June that raised profits, that raised 656 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: Kieran Draft beer profits by five percent, and he's. 657 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: Like, ah, he's crying tears. It's not one hundred percent true. 658 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: I was with one other guy and we were looking 659 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: at each other like we need to leave or stay forever. 660 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: This has gone from conference to cold crazy. And then 661 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: so then we take a break and we think, okay, 662 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: that's wild. And then the second presentation happens, same thing, 663 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: another song, and this time was a woman. She started crying. 664 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: And so what it turned out to me was like 665 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: this ritualized kind of like situation where they were essentially 666 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: competing over passion for a company. 667 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: They wanted to prove that they wanted the employee that 668 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: loved the guy. 669 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's been like this forever 670 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: or if like one year somebody just like took the 671 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: took the you know, like took the way the wheels 672 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: the rains off and just went buck wild. And now 673 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: everybody is forced to scream and cry, but you know, 674 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: and you're it was like and then we realized that 675 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: the skirt steak was the most popular and the translator 676 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: had no interest in mimicking the emotion. 677 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: But there is nothing better than the cool, calm, collected 678 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: nature of a translator. Like while like you'll see like 679 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: the like sign language translator laters at a concert or whatever, 680 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: and they're just like, I'm here to do my job, 681 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: deliver the information with no bias. 682 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: That's right. I'm not an actor. 683 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm here to just tell you what this Israeli Palestine conversation. 684 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: I love. It's truly the best thing in the world. 685 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: And these people are the most professional. 686 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and and and they should probably be paid more, 687 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm assuming, and be more famous. So yeah, that was 688 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: my That was my most I mean, you should never 689 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: go back. 690 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: Nothing's going to. 691 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: Talk, nothing's going to top that. That was the best. 692 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: Also, I love do you like going on a business 693 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 2: trip when it's just you're not paying for any element 694 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: of it? It feels incredible be like a crappy. 695 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: Marriotte room that you didn't pay for us. 696 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: You get to be there guilt free. You just don't 697 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: have to worry about a thing. 698 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, a beer in the Phoenix airport for some reason, 699 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: watching like a college basketball game that you don't care about, 700 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: next to some like engineering conference attendee. 701 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: What's better? 702 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 2: That is what we all live for. That's what we 703 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: live for. So you went to this conference. Did you 704 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: do anything else while there? 705 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: Not on that trip, But I did go with my 706 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: mom once and we did some of that like natural 707 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: hot spring stuff, which is. 708 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: Also I've never done one of those. It's great. It's 709 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: sort of like eating an egg. 710 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: You have to turn off the fact that there's like 711 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 4: Geisha Doll level, you know, servants walking around making your 712 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: night like very pleasant. And yes, I guess we kind 713 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: of do that here too, in terms of like bus 714 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: boys and you know, people not being paid with the. 715 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 2: Right kind of treating service people badly. 716 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, in Japan, it's they're they're not hiding anything pretty 717 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: much in your face. There was you know, there's there's 718 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: women at the front door that are basically like you know, 719 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 4: Ripley's like wax figurine level. 720 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: Still you walk right by them, and that's fascinating. Okay, 721 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: so I have this what what was the decision making 722 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: logic behind this toilet paper? 723 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 3: Little race based I assumed. 724 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: I assumed you hadn't gotten like a lot of like 725 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: international gifts. 726 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: And my wife and I go to do you go 727 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: to Sawtel Ever? 728 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: I love pretty far. I love there's so much good 729 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Japanese food down there that I'm always tempted to go. 730 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 2: But then I think, oh, that's an hour away, easily. Yeah, 731 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: but when you get there and you're having ramin or 732 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: what have you, and it's like there's just outside of well, 733 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: I guess you can go to Torrance is also apparently 734 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: good for Japanese food, well done. 735 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't talk about Torrance. 736 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: I see. Torrance is another thing that's constantly tempting me. Yes, 737 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: because there's good food there, great food, but again an 738 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: hour away. And also God bless Torrents, but not not. 739 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: We're not there for sits Oh really large. 740 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: So you're not go. 741 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: There to see like the Toyota factory or whatever, or 742 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: Taco bell head. 743 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 4: I think it's on the cover of the photers La 744 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three edition. 745 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: It's kind of the new hot spot for travelers. Yeah. 746 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 4: No, it is sort of a culinary secret spot, right sure, Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Koreans. 747 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: There's a great Peruvian Japanese place in Torrents. Oh, I 748 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 4: will plug here. 749 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: I will say I've just learned of Peruvian Chinese because 750 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: there's a place an Eagle Rock called Chifa Fifa, which 751 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: I haven't been to yet, but people rave about. 752 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Chifa just means is just the word 753 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: for Chinese food and pat. 754 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 755 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: My wife is half Peruvian. Oh, we had a lot 756 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: of Japanese. 757 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: So you were familiar with Peruvian Asian fusion before. 758 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 4: That's why we sought it out this place. But Torrents 759 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: in general is like fantastic satl But you guys have 760 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: downtown here and now the town is okay, But I 761 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: don't think it's as good as hotel. Is kind of 762 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: the place to be if you want really great food. 763 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I digress. 764 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 4: So the the the reason why is because there's a 765 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 4: place called Diso, which is. 766 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: Kind of like an I love Diso. 767 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: So they so all kind of like, I don't know, 768 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: it's really cheap, kind of very functional. 769 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: I want to open the next one. 770 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get into here, let me get into this. Oh, 771 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: I put the tissue back in the bag, so we'll 772 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: have to have reopening up the tissue. 773 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: Now it sounds like too much, too and. 774 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Now the podcast is over. Listeners turned away. Okay, so 775 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 2: this is when I opened the toilet paper. I knew 776 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: what was going on, but now I've opened a product 777 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: that is absolutely horrifying. This is I'll try to describe 778 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: what we're looking at here. It's it. The only English 779 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: on it is fore men and before after. And then 780 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: there's a man with two things shoved up his nostrils. 781 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: He's screaming, his eyes are wide. And then there's there's 782 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: a I'm going to I'm going to guess at what 783 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: this is. Is this a nosehair removal? It is because 784 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: there's a little like basically like a plastic Q tip 785 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: or like a what do you stick in the golf 786 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: swab or a golf Yeah, it looks like a golf tea. 787 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: That's right, you stick up your nose and then it 788 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: apparently does that have glue on the end. 789 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: It does have some type of these. 790 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 2: This is this is another assassin attempt. 791 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 4: No, and I think it's one of these things. It's 792 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 4: interesting because it's very Japanese. Obviously the gentleman on the 793 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: cover is not Japanese. It looks maybe Italian. 794 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: It says made in Turkey on the box, it looks yeah, 795 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 2: it's probably Turkey. 796 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 797 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 4: I wonder how many people auditioned for that. 798 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: I drove to Santa Monica. Yeah, got in front of 799 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 2: a casting direction. 800 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on hold, babe. I think I'm going to 801 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 3: get this one. 802 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: I finally got pinned for the nose hair. 803 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 4: The guy asked me to do it again, so yeah, 804 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: and then I think you hold it in there. 805 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: This is my guess. 806 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: They don't read Japanese, so I think you hold it 807 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 4: in there for a number of seconds and then you 808 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: rip it out and then voila. 809 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. 810 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: I wonder if Japanese men, I mean, because it's only 811 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 4: for men, as it says. 812 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: Let's be Japan is ignoring a whole segment of the 813 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: population that also has nose hair. Women, I'm speaking to you. 814 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: You can have nose hair too. Yes, it's twenty twenty 815 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: two and women have nose that's right. Just don't use 816 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: this product, because this is pH balance directly for boys. 817 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: That's right, But I wonder how much those here maybe 818 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: they have. 819 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: Maybe it's a white nationwide nightmare they're that they're confronting 820 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 4: with this product. 821 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 3: But I do I also think you can use it for. 822 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: Ears, oh and for other things like fingers and things 823 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 4: like that. 824 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the back. It looks like it 825 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: comes with a little pot of wax. 826 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: It does come in a little pot of wax. And alarmingly, 827 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: all of the writing is in red, so it just this. 828 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: Could all be a warning. 829 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 4: It's a huge six paragraph warning in Japanese that neither 830 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: of us can read. 831 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: But I'm sure it's fine. What could go wrong? 832 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: I also say it looks I mean, again largely Japanese, 833 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: but it does say five hundred and six hundred W, 834 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: which I would assume is five hundred watty. I kind 835 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: of if this is an electric product. 836 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and assume that's an electrical unit of measurements. 837 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: We know so little and can read so little. 838 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, this will be a real learning of the 839 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: garbage truck is coming through the listener. I don't know 840 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: if you're hearing that, but that's exciting. For you. My 841 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: garbage is about to be taken away from me. 842 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: For those two to four year old listeners, this is 843 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 4: going to be really here. 844 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: The dump truck, Get out your toys. 845 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: The only part of the podcast you care about. 846 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be a real trial experience for me 847 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: where I'm learning and injuring myself. 848 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: Do you do you have nose here? 849 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: I do have nose? Do you? 850 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: And I hate it? 851 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 2: I nose here? 852 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: Is? 853 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: I guess it's necessary somehow biologically I'm sure. 854 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's really nice. 855 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: It's doing something maybe keeping dust from getting up your nose. 856 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a Netflix document. Oh yeah, I'm sure 857 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: there are fourteen. But the nosehair murderer that you never 858 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: somehow knew about. 859 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: Um, nose hair is an interesting thing from me. I 860 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: learned a few years ago. And this is was not 861 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: from any official source. Okay, the garbage truck. Let's just 862 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: let them take the garbage. On a least, should we 863 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 2: let them take the garbage before we continue here? 864 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: They might be auditioning for a garbage truck show. 865 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, right over their own podcast, the garbage truck podcast. 866 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 4: We looked at with your neighbor though, I mean do 867 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 4: you know what they're building, No idea. It's a great mystery. 868 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 4: It's in a back room, so it could be any 869 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: any sort of dark definitely permitted. Yeah, we can assume 870 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 4: they went through all of the paperwork. 871 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 3: They paid the thirty grand. 872 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: They're probably going to be running an illegal salon out 873 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: of there. That ooop garbage And we can keep this audio. 874 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm happy to keep all of this. We're just chatting 875 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 2: about the garbage truck for a minute. The world is moving. 876 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: This is the thrill of being outdoors when garbage is 877 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: present and needs to be taken to another place to 878 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: just sit for a thousand years. 879 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 3: I don't even like to think about it. 880 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 4: I don't even I just throw it out on my 881 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 4: front window and just assume somebody takes it to a 882 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 4: sustainable plate. 883 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: Take care of this for me. Yeah. Nose hair. Someone 884 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: told me a few years ago you should not pluck 885 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: nose hair because apparently, apparently your nose can become infected. 886 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, apparently the like nose. Whatever's happening there is 887 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: very sensitive, and. 888 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: So what are you supposed to shave it? 889 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, so this is what happened. I when I got 890 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: my first writing job, when I first like got like 891 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: my first paycheck, I'll tell you then, this will really 892 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: tell people something about me. I thought, I'm going to 893 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: spoil myself. I'm gonna buy a nose hair trimmer. They 894 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: cost fifteen dollars. So that was my big treat. Like 895 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: I was finally like a professional working. 896 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 4: Right you associated groom being well groomed with your like 897 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 4: Enough with this goodbye old Bridger. I went down to 898 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: best Buy spent fourteen ninety nine. I was like, I'm 899 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 4: really spoiling myself. And it has I've been. It hasn't 900 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 4: changed much since then. That's how I lived my life. 901 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: But I yet use the nose hair trimmer apparently, and 902 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: they work very They're very effective, they're very affordable. I 903 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: feel like Big Big Trimmer released this information. 904 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: Introduced me to that friend that gave me that information. 905 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 4: You know, plucking can kill you. Clearly, some high level 906 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 4: VP at it at best Buy. 907 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: It was like, I know it will do. They were 908 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: releasing posters that say the faces of plucking, and just 909 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 2: this could be you and the time it took you 910 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 2: to look at this poster. Fourteen people have died from 911 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: plucking their nose hair. By this trimmer. I mean, I 912 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: am of the thought of like, if I can think 913 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: of it, it probably has happened. So I bet somebody 914 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: has diet of nose hair plucking. 915 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, or we'll make sure it happened. Yeah, before this 916 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: was released. 917 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: You will' given me this product with this screaming man 918 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: on it. So you were at Diso just kind of 919 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: when browsing. We have young kids and it's easy to 920 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: go to Sawtel to just pick up noodles or pick 921 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: up and so we're in that Diso way too often, right, 922 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: And you also wonder like who's buying like this, you know, 923 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: huge like mango, like a stuffed mango with a funny 924 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: face on it feels so soft, feel so. 925 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 4: Soft, forty nine ninety nine or whatever. But somebody's buying it, 926 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 4: I think. But they're doing business. People are kind of perusing, 927 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 4: and I just thought, there's no way he's gotten good, 928 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 4: good Diso stuff. And that seemed also possibly like you 929 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: might use it. 930 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know. I don't know what I 931 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 2: should do with that information. I know, I mean, rather 932 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 2: than rather than a kew change, right, it's a useful thing, right, 933 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: put or something feels like a good place to take kids. 934 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 4: Diso is a good place except unless you want to 935 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 4: have a screaming child who needs every you know, a 936 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 4: break dancing raccoon or something. 937 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: I will say you you kind of compared Die with 938 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: the ninety nine cent store, and I will say, there's 939 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: a vast difference. No, you're right, that was unfair. When 940 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm a Diso, I'm like, almost all this feels remote. 941 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm kind of well made or practical. 942 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, except you wonder there's a lot of face masks 943 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 4: that don't seem like FDA approved, right, And then like 944 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 4: zip poppers that I have used actually that are pretty 945 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 4: well well made, but I think they break after the 946 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: sixth use. 947 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: But you don't want to zip popper after six uses. Anyway, 948 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: I like to. 949 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 4: Hold on to just a things and just remember, just 950 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 4: go like, oh, yeah, this was the day Obama got elected. 951 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 3: I use this top so. 952 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: Many it was a stressful time leading in that moment. 953 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: We're all but yeah, Diso, I'll go in there, and 954 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 2: I with the ninety nine cent store, I'm I can 955 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 2: go in and be like, I'm not gonna buy anything 956 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: in here. I'll just look at the insane things that 957 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: are happening and then there'll be like a Christmas tree 958 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: flavored Snickers or something. And but when I go into diso, 959 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: I will walk away having spent money. I mean, they're 960 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 2: all there are things in there that I'm like, oh, yeah, 961 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: if you were like, we're a savvy shopper, you could 962 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 2: probably go in here and really make a killing. Sure, 963 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: But then there are items that are like, shouldn't be 964 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: buying this at a ninety nine cents? Right? 965 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 3: That too? 966 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: That too, but I shouldn't. I shouldn't be unfair many people, 967 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 4: I'm sure do there. 968 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: Oh it's they've got all kind. They do have a 969 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: rainbow of things, and a lot of it is good, 970 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: like usable stuff. 971 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 4: And good branding, right, I mean, because not everything in 972 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 4: there's ninety nine cents anymore. I'm sure once we've done 973 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 4: that is true. But now you're really thinking yeah, but 974 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 4: also suitable for calling themselves right. 975 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: I've hired a number of lawyers and none of the 976 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: suits have stuck. 977 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 4: Right, there's a disclaimer in the front window that is bulletproof. 978 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 2: I bet there is. Yeah, I feel like nine most 979 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 2: of the ninety nine cent stores are now either it's 980 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: ninety nine cents or five ninety nine Those are like 981 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: the two prices in those stores, right, and that's the 982 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: CEO of ninety nine cent stores like worth a trillion dollars. 983 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: I really think they are. I think that the company 984 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: probably is problem attic on some level where they're like 985 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: gouging people where they shouldn't regougey. 986 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: Let's take them down. 987 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm happy well again. The lawsuits, the lawsuits. It's sort 988 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: of a superhero of sorts. 989 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 4: You're sort of out there doing something that other people 990 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 4: are too afraid to do. 991 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for saying thank you. I've poured so much 992 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 2: of my own money into this. I am hanging by 993 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: a thread financially, and meanwhile ninety nine cent continues to 994 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: expand and raise their prices. 995 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: It's sort of a Hamilton Burr situation. 996 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: Yes, you, you and the ninety nine cents sory you 997 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 4: can't figure out why they're thriving. 998 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: Lynn Manuel is going to write a rap musical about 999 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: me and ninety nine cent only. I do feel like 1000 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: there are a lot of stories around LA that are 1001 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: like the names of the stores will be so chaotic, 1002 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 2: or it'll be like ninety nine cents and possibly more, 1003 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: or like they really leave it open, and it's like Yeah, 1004 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: I'm just not going to go there because it's right right, 1005 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: the prices could be in any direction. 1006 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, only the big ninety nine s and sore is 1007 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 4: Amazon at this point. 1008 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely are just kind of a less than 1009 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: ninety nine. 1010 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: So we all just sucked from that teeth, don't we 1011 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 4: Just like without even thinking about it too much. 1012 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: We're just trapped. Yeah, we're just trapped. 1013 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 4: Just give me a huge box with like three dental 1014 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 4: flosses in front of it, because I because I was. 1015 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: Bored and I realized I was out of dental flows. 1016 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 2: So I finally find your hobby buying dental flaws. 1017 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm a floss order. 1018 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: Is there anything else that dies? So you've gotten that 1019 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: you found useful? No? 1020 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 4: And never, I mean we we have. We have gotten 1021 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 4: like grooming type things like face masks and things like that, 1022 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 4: and they I honestly, it's basically like if somebody wet 1023 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 4: a piece of bounty paper towel and put it on 1024 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 4: my face, you know what I mean. And I'm like, 1025 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 4: you know, and it's like a fun thing to do 1026 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 4: with your partner or whatever, and like you know, and 1027 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: my my I was pretty smart, so I don't think. 1028 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: She would do it if it was really that useless. 1029 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 4: But to me, it felt like I was about to 1030 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 4: be microwaves, like like you know old Indian foods, like 1031 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 4: they just put wet wet to make. 1032 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: Sure it doesn't splash. 1033 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we did get a baby seal that 1034 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 4: was not a real baby seal. This is the most 1035 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 4: valuable item you knock on the back door. They are 1036 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 4: selling exotic animals. 1037 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 2: For I'm surprised more people don't own baby seals as pets. 1038 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: I feels like we're headed in that direct. 1039 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 3: Maybe this is a business opportunity. 1040 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: We could together and I get together start capturing these 1041 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: baby seals. 1042 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 4: Baby seals dot com they know we got a stuffed 1043 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 4: plush baby seal like years ago, just to like just 1044 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 4: because it was hilarious and this is what you do 1045 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 4: when you have no kids and you're you're not married 1046 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 4: yet and then so just put it on the bed. 1047 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 3: And then our dog destroyed this thing and it. 1048 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 4: Was just like the dirtiest, nastiest pillow that you could 1049 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 4: you know, because it was the idea of a baby 1050 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 4: seal is that it's like Christine White. Oh, right, like 1051 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 4: four hours later, this thing had like poop and dirt 1052 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 4: and dog sliva and dog treats all over it, and 1053 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: I was like, why did we buy that for like 1054 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 4: twenty seven dollars. 1055 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 2: Dog's ability to make a toy look filthy is like, 1056 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: where is any of the I thought you were a 1057 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: fairly clean animal, and You're bringing substances to this toy 1058 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 2: that I've never seen you consume or on your body. 1059 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 4: But they love it more than filthiery, right, so it's 1060 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 4: hard to throw it out. 1061 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: I'd love to get a nice and smelly and so 1062 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 2: they can throw it around the room. 1063 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 4: It's interesting because they sort of fight that trajectory of 1064 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 4: the bridger who wanted to clean out his nose because 1065 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 4: he was finally a legitimate comedy writer. And then you're like, oh, 1066 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 4: I'll get a dog and be like a domesticated adult, 1067 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 4: and then the dog brings that kind of destruction and 1068 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 4: dirt in your head. 1069 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: It's exactly toy Street. Yeah, yeah, well we love diso 1070 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: and now I've got this thing that could lead to 1071 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 2: my death. And then some toilet paper, which is like, 1072 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 2: who knows what ply of toilet paper? 1073 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 3: But it was just like right, red writing all over 1074 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: the back of that too, and we're. 1075 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 2: Just like, holy shit, just Japanese for please do not 1076 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,479 Speaker 2: use Oh actually I'm not picking up the toilet paper 1077 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 2: again and seeing kind of a humanoid version of the egg, 1078 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: oh wow, which I didn't found. How he gets around 1079 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: he morphs. 1080 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 4: That looks like the canceled Broadway production of Gouda Tama. 1081 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: Like they they tried. 1082 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 4: They did a six week workshop and they just said, 1083 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 4: you know what, this is a bad idea and we 1084 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 4: should all just look at each other and nod yes. 1085 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 2: Listener, you'll see this on Instagram. This is a very 1086 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: scary person that's kind of in a yoke full body 1087 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: what creative executive over at Sanrio. Someone's kid, Yeah, somebody's kid. 1088 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: They're like geting some job we don't care about. 1089 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 4: It is no, I think that is someone's kid. I 1090 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 4: think I think that's a drawing of someone's kid. 1091 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 2: They're shameful child that they kind of keep hidden away. 1092 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 2: They let them out for this one illustration. But yeah, 1093 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: we now know how it's good to Tama. 1094 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: I think it's good Toma. Okay. 1095 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 2: And got to commit that to memory because every time 1096 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: I see the egg, I'm like, there's the egg thing? 1097 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think, what if we found out that 1098 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 4: this toilet paper was made from. 1099 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 2: Egg Oh, now that would be mortifying. But eggs are 1100 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 2: they have a thousand uses. Yeah, you know they have 1101 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 2: people put eggs in their hair. Why not. That's right. 1102 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: It could easily become a toilet It could be sort. 1103 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 4: Of and if anybody would figure out it, you know, 1104 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 4: has figured out sort of toilet help Japan. 1105 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 2: Japanese toilet culture, they are the leaders. 1106 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: They're way out ahead, they're laughing. 1107 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: They are, I mean truly in another dimension compared to 1108 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 2: the rest of the world. 1109 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably why they age so well. 1110 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 2: Right, they're leading the innovation and toilets. Yeah, and just 1111 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 2: feeling good and you know, clean clean. Yeah. 1112 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 4: The rest of us are just like putting construction paper 1113 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 4: up there for three seconds to. 1114 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: Wipe away, then throwing it down the castle wall. Ye, 1115 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: that kind of thing the most. 1116 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Japanese are like, no, we have a team 1117 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 4: of expertsure are going to come in and clean this 1118 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 4: out like an Airbnb after the family leaves. 1119 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's something that all cultures, I feel like, 1120 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 2: could get into at this point, more advanced toilet technology. 1121 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 2: But I think it's time. 1122 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 3: For a game. 1123 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I 1124 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 2: need a number between one and ten from you. Six. Okay, 1125 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: I have to do a bit of light calculating. You 1126 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: can recommend, promote, truly, do whatever you want with the 1127 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 2: mic for a minute. 1128 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 4: Okay, promote would I would recommend something that I just 1129 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 4: saw that I have no connection to, and I find 1130 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 4: hilarious that I'm promoting or recommending. But this movie, the 1131 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 4: Last Duel that Ben Afflett, that mister Jennifer Lopez's husband 1132 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 4: wrote with Nicole Hollis Center and his buddy Matt, who 1133 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 4: I think some people also know. 1134 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: But it was like a shock. A couple people told me. 1135 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 4: Actually, our friend Ike from After Party told me to 1136 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 4: watch it, and it was like surprise, have either of 1137 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 4: you seen this movie. It's surprisingly not only fantastic, but 1138 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 4: like important. It's like a really interesting, fabulous period piece. 1139 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 4: It's a me too movie set in the dark ages. 1140 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 4: It's like it's crazy, it's really well done. It's sort 1141 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 4: of a Rashamon structure and atom Driver is in it. 1142 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 4: I know by the look on your face that you 1143 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 4: don't believe me, and you're waiting for the bit to drop. 1144 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 2: But no, I'm I'm What happened was I thought, usually 1145 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 2: I have this Google doc that I have to go 1146 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 2: through to do my calculations for the game, and I thought, 1147 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 2: today I'm going to because I thought I would try 1148 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: a new method of doing it, and it became extremely difficult. 1149 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 2: I thought it would make things easier, and I was like, 1150 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 2: I have gotten out of control. 1151 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 3: I saw your computer smoking and I was like, what's 1152 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 3: he doing with that? 1153 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 2: But then meanwhile I was also processing that apparently this 1154 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: is a good movie. 1155 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: This is a very very good, interesting movie. 1156 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 4: And it was I think Killed by the Pandemic and 1157 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 4: that subject matters very dark. 1158 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: And the haircuts I think made people think this seems 1159 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 2: but they're bold hair choices. All. Yeah, it was. 1160 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 4: I think they it was like an SNL sketch that 1161 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 4: turned into a two and a half hour pick. 1162 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 2: But it entertained you. It's it's not yeah, it's it 1163 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: entertained me, but it was. 1164 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 4: There was a moment. There's a moment, like thirty percent 1165 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 4: way through the movie that you're like, oh, this is 1166 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 4: very interesting what they're doing for reasons. 1167 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, then I have to see it. And it's 1168 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 2: Ridley Scott. 1169 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 4: It's Ridley Scott and it's the same year that he 1170 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 4: also did the Gucci movie that also right, did not 1171 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 4: you know hit quite But this movie I just have 1172 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 4: to say, in terms of subject matter and uh sort 1173 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 4: of rip from the headlines, I thought it was cool. 1174 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh I'm very excited about this. I need it. I've 1175 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 2: been desperate for movie recommendation like a light. 1176 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 3: Let's just flip this thing on before we get to 1177 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 3: that movie. Just so you know. 1178 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 4: It's not a rom column. It's meat Matt. He's a 1179 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 4: knight during the Crusades. But one thing he wants to 1180 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 4: find someone. 1181 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, this is that's an excellent recommendation. But now we 1182 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: have to play the game. This is how we play 1183 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: gift Master. I'm gonna name three things, three potential gifts 1184 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 2: you can give away, and then I'm gonna name three celebrities. 1185 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me which celebrity, Uh you'll give which gift? 1186 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: And why does that make sense? I have three gifts 1187 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 2: and three celebrities, and I have to get dole them out. 1188 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: Only why this sort of thing? Easy enough? 1189 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I did this in real life all the time. 1190 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,280 Speaker 2: Of course, Well you're you're running in your celebrity circles 1191 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have all these gifts to give kind 1192 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 2: of a Santa style bag over your shoulder. Okay, these 1193 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 2: are the gifts. Number one is a floor length skirt. 1194 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 2: So this is kind of a skirt from hip to ankle. 1195 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: Uh maybe of any fabric you want. That's up to you. 1196 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 3: Number only the citing factor is its length. Everything else 1197 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 3: is up to. 1198 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 2: Me, Yes, very much up to you. So it's just 1199 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 2: gonna be you know, covering. Got it? So corn floor 1200 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 2: length skirts? And now are we talking about fresh corn? 1201 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 2: Dried corn? I was picturing fresh corn? Fresh corn, I 1202 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 2: mean eventually shocked or not? 1203 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, so yellow yellow, just in fact sort 1204 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 4: of beaded. 1205 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like a. 1206 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,959 Speaker 4: Beaded almost like a chain mail, actually like a chain mail, 1207 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 4: but fresh and washed and floor length. 1208 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 2: Mice chasing after it, trying to. 1209 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 4: Get a little nibble maybe, I mean, depending on where 1210 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 4: you're wearing it. 1211 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 2: Right through a field or what have you. Okay, corn 1212 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 2: floor length skirt. A Number two is a this is 1213 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 2: practical a reusable straw. Well that's just a tiny thing 1214 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: you can throw in your bag and then you're you know, 1215 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 2: out and you don't need to use the plastics. Not 1216 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: corn it could be corn corn, let's be honest, could 1217 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 2: be corn, but not necessary, not necessarily be specific, and 1218 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: then snaxts one of whether or not. The third item 1219 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: you'll be giving is a prehensile tail. So that's like 1220 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 2: a tail like a monkey has that, like curls around 1221 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 2: objects or other animals, probably them to, but I think 1222 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: they're almost like a hand or an arm where they 1223 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 2: have some level of control. 1224 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: Right, it's a utilitarian, Yes, it's not just decorative and 1225 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 4: it's but it's like anatomical Yes, oil. 1226 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 2: Be sealed to this person's body for the rest of time. 1227 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 2: And the people you'll be giving them to are Number one, 1228 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray Sure, in Access Hollywood and 1229 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 2: Excess Hollywood. How could we forget? 1230 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 3: I think at this point it might, Yes, mostly Access Hollywood. 1231 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 2: Number two is Andre three thousand Love Yes. And number three, 1232 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: now this is an interesting one. Speaking of friends earlier, 1233 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 2: David Shwimmer. 1234 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 3: David Swimmer, David Sure he did quite well? 1235 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: He did what financially? Yeah? Yeah, Just when I see 1236 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: David Swimmer in anything, I don't have like a strong 1237 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 2: opinion of him in any direction artistically or anything like that. 1238 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 3: Personally. I don't know him. I just think he did 1239 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 3: quite well. 1240 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: That's such a good blanket statement for so many people. 1241 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 2: He did quite well. I didn't just walk away. 1242 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say I did see him in a 1243 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,959 Speaker 4: hotel gym once. 1244 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he And that's that's what I thought. 1245 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: Was he uh, exercise by treadmill? 1246 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: No like intense weightlifting? 1247 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and incredibly in shape and yeah, very very 1248 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: chiseled and handsome and put together. 1249 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 4: The clothes were impeccable. This is not the David Swimmer 1250 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 4: I think of. But you're wrong, because he did quite well, 1251 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 4: not really financially, but in that hotel, in that hotel, Jim, 1252 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 4: he not. He not only did quite well. I was thinking, well, 1253 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: he's doing quite well. 1254 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: So he every tense, every tense of the verb. Yes, 1255 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: he's got it. Yeah, he will do quite well. 1256 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 4: But also so yeah, that's my take on David's for 1257 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 4: the world that I've been waiting to drop. 1258 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 2: Reveal. 1259 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelvin breaks his silence finally. 1260 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So Swimmer McGrath andy three thousand, I mean all, yeah. 1261 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, Mark McGrath harder to say. Well, We'll just say, 1262 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: for nicest purposes, they all did quite well. 1263 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 3: They all did quite well. No, you can't. 1264 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, we're talking about him here in twenty 1265 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 4: twenty two. There's no question he did quite well. Corn 1266 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 4: skirt to the floor. What's the word you use? 1267 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 2: Tail or length? No, no for tail, oh, prehensile, prehensile 1268 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 2: tail and then reusable straw, usable straw. See the intuition 1269 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 2: intuitive choices to give that skirt to Andre three thousand, Right, 1270 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 2: you just feel like he's I mean, we should almost 1271 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 2: google corn floor length skirt, may. 1272 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 4: Have already done this. So for that reason, I'm not 1273 00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 4: going to give something that the. 1274 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, he probably Wow, you want to give a 1275 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 2: repeat gift? No, he's gonna go Now I have three 1276 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with this? 1277 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 3: Right? 1278 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 2: So he probably gets that straw? 1279 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, because he seems like a reasonable guy and 1280 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 4: he's probably in the phase of his life where he's 1281 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 4: starting to think about sustainability and you know, giving back. 1282 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: This makes perfect sense to me. He feels, despite being 1283 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: flashy and fun, has always seemed also practical. Yes, I 1284 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 2: I one of my celebrity crushes. Andre three thousand, completely justified. 1285 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 4: Yes, so cool, He's almost like, I mean, this is 1286 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 4: an overstatement, but it's like a Bowie type character where 1287 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,439 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, this guy is laps ahead of culture. Yes, 1288 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 4: and we'll understand him in like thirty years. Right has 1289 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 4: never made like a glaringly bad move. No, and his music, 1290 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 4: if you play it now, sounds modern, whereas a lot 1291 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 4: of the music of that time sounds very old. 1292 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it feels Oh, I'm listening to something from nineteen 1293 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 2: ninety nine. 1294 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 4: Right and so, which actually I do a lot of 1295 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 4: problem not a problem to nineteen ninety nine and people. 1296 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Who love we do send this back in time. I 1297 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 2: just want to cover our bases here travel Elementary Podcast. 1298 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 4: Hi, my name's Kyle from nineteen ninety nine. I have 1299 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 4: been listening to your podcast, and I want you to 1300 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 4: know that I will. 1301 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Not happy with some of the statements made on this 1302 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: week's episode canceled. Okay, soing Andre the reusable strug. He 1303 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: seems like he would appreciate it perfect. Yeah. 1304 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 4: He seems like he'd look you dead in the eye 1305 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 4: and say thanks. And he also seems like someone who 1306 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 4: loves a cool drink. He does seem like he loves 1307 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 4: a cool drink, and like you said, practical when you 1308 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 4: look at him, he looks like he's going from this 1309 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 4: event to something else. He's gonna go, right, He's never 1310 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 4: at rest. No, he's like a nephew's you know, birthday party. 1311 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 4: And then later on tonight he's meeting friends in a movie. 1312 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: That's a perfectly given gift, okay and thoughtful not giving 1313 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 2: him the skirt. 1314 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going to need that. And then the 1315 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 3: the prehensile tail, which I will use again today just 1316 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 3: to lock it in. 1317 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: God knows if I'm pronouncing that correctly. To be honest, 1318 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm no tail experts. Let's just put it out there, Okay, 1319 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 2: it's good to. 1320 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Say that that. 1321 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 2: My my options are McGrath and uh Simmer Swimmer. 1322 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 4: I think uh, I think I'm gonna give that tail 1323 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 4: to Shwimmer. 1324 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, and why because he did so well 1325 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: and I feel like he like, what do you give 1326 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 2: the guy who has everything given the thing that he 1327 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,919 Speaker 2: can't he can't purchase and you can't you can't not yet, 1328 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 2: not yet. Yeah, I mean I think some companies are 1329 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 2: working on it, some tech pros. Yeah, there's somebody in 1330 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 2: the Bay Area right now, not yet as we stand 1331 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 2: here today, not yet. And so he's gonna go I 1332 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 2: have everything. But and now I have every and now 1333 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm swinging around the house. I'm getting things on the 1334 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 2: top shelf with my tail. Right, he's so in shape, 1335 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: and he's so he's so, he's so sort of physically powerful. 1336 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 3: Problem, if I. 1337 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Refuse to believe that David Trummer. 1338 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Is financially powerful, the tail is just gonna push him 1339 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 4: to that next level. 1340 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Well, it gives him another thing to work out at 1341 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 2: the gym. Yeah, that's the thing is No, none of 1342 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 2: us thought there was another level for swimmer, and and 1343 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: yet this is going to get him there. And then 1344 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 2: so that leaves us with for some ready, I have 1345 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 2: the memory of like a grandfather looking for his glasses 1346 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,479 Speaker 2: right now, well, looking for the floor length skirmet of corn, 1347 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 2: the corn McGrath. Yeah, And I think McGrath is one 1348 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 2: of those guys in my mind who's very entrenched in 1349 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: a certain era. Yeah. 1350 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true because I haven't seen 1351 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 4: him recently, but to me, he represents that that era. 1352 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 4: So I think a floor length corn skirt is gonna 1353 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 4: help him like open some opportunities, right, rebrand slightly brand yeah, 1354 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 4: and like like you know that is very sustainable. So 1355 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 4: that's really you know, corn. 1356 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: It's that, I mean, all joking aside is probably almost 1357 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: a thing. 1358 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 3: It's probably the almost the thing. 1359 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 4: It seems were intensive, So maybe sort of class based 1360 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 4: because you probably need a good amount. 1361 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Do you think about the syrup for making out of corn? 1362 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely corn syrup? Corn? Like you said, I think, don't 1363 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 3: we make utensils out of corn? 1364 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? We make so many things I feel like are 1365 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 2: made out of corn at this point, so why not 1366 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 2: corn shirts? Maybe they dissolve in the rain? Corn the problem? 1367 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 2: They could call them corn shyrups. See corn industry. The 1368 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 2: corn syrup may be on its way out, but corn syrups. 1369 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. And here's the other thing. 1370 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 4: Is McGrath, Unfortunately, in my and this might not be 1371 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 4: true for everybody else, is known for one song. 1372 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 2: Yes and so, or maybe two I think the second songs. 1373 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 2: There's the uh uh I just want to fly, I 1374 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 2: just want to fly. That was the first one, and 1375 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 2: then there's the. 1376 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 4: One this morning ever morn everyone the crown, yeah on 1377 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 4: the bed or what Yeah, So now it'll be I 1378 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 4: just want to fly every morning, floor length floor scorn skirt. 1379 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 4: So he's got three, so everybody kind of wins here 1380 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,439 Speaker 4: we get a hit new song on the radio. Jack 1381 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 4: fam is playing it over and over. 1382 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 3: Do you know if I got those right? You got 1383 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 3: those perfect? 1384 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 1385 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 3: Great, great, great great. 1386 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you really dodged a bullet with the 1387 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 2: giving the skirt to Andre three thousand, which was it 1388 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 2: was such a gimmey. It seemed like such an obvious choice, 1389 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 2: and you made the thoughtful decision to think. 1390 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know who you think you invited here today. 1391 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, I thought I was inviting someone who would not 1392 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 2: show up with a gift, and so obviously there have 1393 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: been a surprise after surprise after surprise. 1394 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 3: I understand. 1395 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: Uh, okay. This is the final segment of the podcast. 1396 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 2: It's called I Said No Emails. People write into I 1397 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. They have questions, 1398 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: they need answers. Their lives are either slowly or quickly 1399 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 2: spiraling out of control, and so we step in and 1400 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 2: try to hit the brakes a little bit, try to 1401 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 2: bring them back from the brink. Will you answer a 1402 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 2: question with me? 1403 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 3: Sure? 1404 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 2: Okay? This says Hello Bridger and dumbfounding guests, so that 1405 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: adjective seems appropriate. Yeah, I'll take that on today. Sure, 1406 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 2: I do apologize own it. My sister and I used 1407 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 2: to be very close dot dot dot. For the past 1408 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 2: two years, our relationship has become rocky as we navigate 1409 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 2: growing into different age ranges and dynamics with each other. 1410 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 2: Her thirty two, me twenty six. But are those both well? 1411 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 2: I think what I feel like one is a young millennial 1412 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 2: and one is a old zoomer old gen z. Her 1413 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 2: wedding is in October. I adore her new partner and 1414 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 2: want for us to have a healthy relationship. What's a 1415 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 2: gift that says I care about you a lot, even 1416 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 2: though you're too high strung and bothering most of the time. 1417 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 2: But I hope you have a really good life, I guess, Sincerely, Travis. 1418 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 3: So Travis, he's. 1419 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 2: Not apparently does not like his sister, but is no 1420 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 2: balling head over heels with the sisters. Yeah, and also 1421 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: I think Travis might be hung up on age more 1422 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 2: than the sisters. Sense. 1423 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 4: I bet the sister doesn't think about this at all. Well, 1424 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: I'm twenty six now, so clearly the gulf between us 1425 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 4: is it's unbridgible. 1426 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,959 Speaker 2: There's no way we will ever be able to speak 1427 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,479 Speaker 2: the same that thirty two really you think you're gonna 1428 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 2: get my experience? You dinosaur, You're almost dead. I'm looking 1429 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 2: into homes for you, how am I? So? 1430 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 4: Maybe a subscription to the AARP or some type of 1431 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 4: pacemaker that you can use in the next six months. 1432 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's I'm let's be honest. Older sister 1433 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 2: is geriatric. 1434 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1435 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 4: Do you even need to go to this wedding? Is 1436 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 4: she gonna make it to this? That's the real question here. 1437 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Why you need to be buying a gift that could 1438 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 2: double Is something for yourself, Travis, like. 1439 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 4: A grieving gift for the party. Oh my god, Travis. 1440 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I think Travis, you I will say, I 1441 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 4: think thirty two is a pivotal age ish and I 1442 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 4: think you should recognize you're not wrong, Travis. 1443 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 3: We joke, but you're not wrong. 1444 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 4: Twenty six you're still living in some kind of French 1445 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 4: indie film. 1446 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 2: You're smoking, you're smoking skateboarding. 1447 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, the music is very uh twee, and you're two 1448 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 4: inches off the ground. You take buses because of good book. Yeah, 1449 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 4: you read good books, right, you read whole good books. 1450 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 4: Finish the book. Your sister is. You're not wrong thinking 1451 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 4: about rugs blenders, sun spots. 1452 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Right, Will I ever be able to pay the mortgage? Yes, 1453 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 2: get a mortgage. 1454 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 4: Get a mortgage. Knee replacement surgery. Kids, There is a 1455 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 4: slight you will see, and I hate to be condescending, 1456 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 4: but you will see there are bigger shifts as you 1457 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 4: get older. But I agree with you your from your 1458 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 4: vantage point twenty six thirty two. 1459 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Those are different places. 1460 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 4: So I would get her something very domestic, unapologetically, because 1461 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 4: it is you do think about those things. 1462 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 2: Right, practical, practical home goods. 1463 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 3: Yes. 1464 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 4: I when we bought our house, I want it was 1465 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 4: like important to me to like live kind of near 1466 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 4: a like abbot Kinney or somewhere you know, like that 1467 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 4: we could. I don't give a shit anymore. I don't 1468 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 4: want to live, you know, in hours away from you know, 1469 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 4: in in Barstow. But but I but I don't care 1470 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 4: anymore about that. And it was only like two years 1471 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 4: later that I realized that I did not need to 1472 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 4: be able to like stumble out of it. And actually 1473 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 4: it's a liability and there's all kinds of dangers like 1474 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 4: people riding their bikes down their house on the way 1475 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 4: to the bar. 1476 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 2: Very dangerous, yes, very dangerous. 1477 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 4: I now am shut in and I scream at people 1478 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 4: if they come anywhere near our mailbox. You want to 1479 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 4: be cozy at home, yeah, you, But but there is 1480 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 4: a shift. So I would think domestic. I would think 1481 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 4: a way to make her home life a little more convenient, 1482 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 4: a little more like and I kid you, not like 1483 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 4: a My my most used, most loved wedding gift was 1484 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 4: a good espresso machine. 1485 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's an excellent one, because everyone kind of has 1486 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,759 Speaker 2: a coffee machine that does the job. 1487 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 4: That said, it's like two thousand dollars to get a 1488 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 4: good one, the really nice ones. But you can get 1489 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 4: like an espresso one for a couple hundred bucks. Oh okay, 1490 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 4: And then she's not having to go to write the 1491 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 4: six dollar latte, right, you know, four days week. 1492 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,560 Speaker 2: And then and then she every time she makes a 1493 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 2: cup of oh, she's thinking about you and how you're 1494 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 2: drifting apart. 1495 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 4: Yes, so even though you haven't talked to her in 1496 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 4: sixty eight years, she's forced to consider your existence every morning. 1497 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 2: You haunt her. Yeah, her first thought every morning is, oh, 1498 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 2: my brother, I need not not before my coffee, not 1499 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 2: before I've regretted what I did to my relationship with 1500 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,680 Speaker 2: my brother. I want that on a mug, right, and 1501 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 2: then so that's six years. So when he's thirty two, 1502 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 2: she'll be thirty eight. Boyl boy, oh boy, here we 1503 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 2: go again, Travis. You she's headed towards forty and you're 1504 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 2: thinking about, yeah, maybe moving into a house. At that point, 1505 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 2: she'll just be kind of babbling a nonsensically at the 1506 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 2: ceiling and not sure if you're in the moon. If 1507 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 2: she's lucky, if she's so lucky, right her mind is going. 1508 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: I feel like that's great. I mean, obviously, Travis prefers 1509 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 2: the fiance maybe a gift card to a restaurant that 1510 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 2: you know that your sister doesn't like. So you get 1511 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 2: to go with the fiance that's always in to. 1512 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 4: Begin the building block of that relationship. Right, really, jump 1513 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 4: ship right now. 1514 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 2: Right so when the inevitable divorce happens, you'll get to 1515 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 2: be friends with this person and your sister will have 1516 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 2: the well, actually no, because you won't have given her 1517 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 2: the espress. So Travis, you're gonna have to figure this 1518 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 2: math out on your own. You are the one that 1519 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,719 Speaker 2: has treated your sister so poorly. 1520 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's time for maybe a mirror a 1521 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 4: picture of yourself looking in the mirror. Yeah, she knows 1522 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 4: what you've thought about, what you've done. 1523 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis, it's time to You're still young. You can 1524 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 2: make the choices that we'll get you back on the 1525 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 2: right path and back into the glowing realm of your sister. 1526 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: Ye. 1527 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: And I mean it's a good thing you wrote into 1528 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 2: this podcast. 1529 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1530 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think thank you for digging deep and realizing 1531 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 4: your wrongs. 1532 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 2: Yes, a family saved and we do what we can, 1533 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 2: which is a lot. It's so much. It takes so 1534 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 2: much time, and it's almost too much. Travis, it's too much. 1535 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,759 Speaker 2: I haven't even had lunch yet. It's really it's wild 1536 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,719 Speaker 2: the things I will do for a listener. 1537 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did it, and now Travis can Venmo you. 1538 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Travis Venmo make Yeah, five to six thousand dollars. That's 1539 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 2: a starting point. That's you know, I think you can 1540 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,839 Speaker 2: let your imagination run. 1541 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Not including the gift. Don't don't recoup the. 1542 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,759 Speaker 2: Gift right process, Kelvin, I now have two practical items, 1543 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 2: one which is cute, one which is terrifying. I'm thrilled 1544 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 2: to have them. 1545 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:33,719 Speaker 3: Great. 1546 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 4: I'm glad that worked out. It was it was a 1547 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 4: dicey choice to bring a gift. 1548 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 2: It was a dicey choice, but ultimately we came together. 1549 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 2: I feel like we can leave this podcast and without anger. 1550 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1551 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,599 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, some people get to swimmer and 1552 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 4: some people just get take the small, small win. 1553 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 3: Although today we'll take the small win. 1554 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Take the small win, and maybe it takes a lot 1555 01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 2: of building to get to a swimmer. 1556 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how you do that. 1557 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 2: For somebody to be saying he did, well, that's a 1558 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 2: lifetime of work, luck and uh work, yeah work. Now, well, 1559 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 2: thank you for being here. I've had a wonderful time 1560 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 2: with you. 1561 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 3: It was fantastic. Thank you so much, Anise. 1562 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Then listener, Oh, the episode's over. We made it through 1563 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 2: the neighbors. We're so polite not to do the construction. 1564 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 2: God bless them. They're back in my good graces. You 1565 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 2: continue to be in my good graces. But the episode 1566 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 2: does have to end, so you have to move on 1567 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 2: and do whatever you're going to do with your day. 1568 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm wishing you the best of luck. I love you, goodbye, 1569 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 2: I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's 1570 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,480 Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson and it's beautifully 1571 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 2: mixed by John Bradley. And we couldn't do it without 1572 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 2: our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, 1573 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: could only come from miracle Worker Amy Man. You must 1574 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. 1575 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you 1576 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 2: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. 1577 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 1578 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,839 Speaker 1: But I invited you hear. 1579 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 5: Thought. 1580 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,839 Speaker 1: I made myself perfectly clear. 1581 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 2: But you're a. 1582 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty. 1583 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: And I said, no gifts, your own presences presence enough. 1584 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how did you 1585 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?