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This is the brother of Tim, 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the brother of Nathaniel, and the son of Don Hasselback. 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Welcome Matt Hasselback to Sup with Coup. Is that sound okay? Matt? 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: What's up? Man? How are you? I'm doing great. I 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: am having a little vegetable soup today. And I know 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: you have a history with soup. You've You've done a 30 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of soup ads in your day. UM, tell me 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: about it. I do you know, before we get to that, 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: I gotta just say that introduction. That's not how I 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: introduce you, okay. So our dads were teammates on the 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four Minnesota Vikings, and so people say, oh, 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I heard you knew Peyton Manning when you grew up. 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I really knew Cooper Manning. So 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: on Saturdays with the Minnesota Vikings, it was like the 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: last practice before game day, the kids of the players 39 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: got to go to Eden Prairie and basically play touch 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: football in that in the bubble against the equipment guys, 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: the athletic trainers, the you know, the kickers and potners, 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Jon stantar Rude and those guys and bro I mean, 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: my dad played a long time in the NFL, and 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I was teammates with I was friends with a lot 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: of his teammates kids. Cooper Manning was the best athlete 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I've ever been around. Dude, Cooper Manning used to run 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: circles around Peyton Manning, myself, my brother Tim, all the 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: equipment guys, Jon stannar Rude, Stosh, all those guys. I mean, dude, Cooper, 49 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: you were you were like you were my hero for 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: many many years. Man, are you free for the next 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: two years because I don't want another guess this is it. 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: It's called soup with Matt. Screw me. This is all you, baby, 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: I mean, this is I get better every year, Matt, 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's thanks to you. I just remember 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: so I forget what great that was for me. Fourth grade. 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I remember feeling like our next team was the New 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: York Giants, and you know, it's a great team. Eighty five, 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: eighty six. You know it's Lawrence Taylor, Mark Lavarle, Film mcconki, 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: Carl Banks, all those guys. And I remember being in 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: the locker room with like, say, Chris Simms as an example. 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Phil Simms is the starting quarterback, and I used to 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: just sit around talking about things. I just remember being like, yo, 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: remember this name, Cooper Man, remember this name. So anyway, 64 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: I just had to share that story with you real quick, Matt. 65 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate that. My kids will certainly believe you 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: more than me. I've been telling how great I was 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: for years and they don't believe a single words. So 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for validating me as a 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: as a good lower school football player. Hey, you were 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: dominating some Hall of Fame you know specialists at the time, 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: if I recall. But but yeah, about the soup man, 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: you've got your soup. I don't have any soup. Part 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: part of the reason why is my mom and I 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: were fortunate enough to be like spokespeople for Campbell's Chunky 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Soup for a good stretch of time, and it was wonderful. 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: It was awesome until the day we got fired. But 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: it was I think I'm souped out a little bit 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: from all the soup that we would eat during the 79 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: like week long of filming commercials up in Toronto. It 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: was like they're like, oh, you can pretend to eat 81 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: the soup. We know it's like six am, and you 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: know you can pretend. I'm like, no, I love this soup. 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I love the soup. But you know, you can have 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: too much of something you like. And so what does 85 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: a mother's son combo do to get fired by Campbell's soup. 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm glad you asked that. So they've got 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: these like focus groups and basically, my mom is like 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: very beaut a full very young. Um. You know, she 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: had me young, so she's like very pretty woman. Well, 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: and their focus and I look especially you know, but 91 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: when I had the cul de sac going like on 92 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: the head, you know, when I should shaved my head 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: and should just start losing my hair, Like what do 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: I do? Their focus group said, well, this is absolutely unbelievable, 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Like we don't we don't believe that this could be true, 96 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: that this old man could have this young mom. So 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: like it wasn't believable that like that's his mom it 98 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: looks maybe like his sister or something like that. So 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons that they decided to 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: kind of turn the page and go for a more 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: believable mom's son duo. And uh, I was devastated. My 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: mom was very um you know, I think I thought 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: she took it as a compliment. Yeah, so, I mean 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: I think, um, some guys can't handle having a hot mom. 105 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: M hey, watch your mouth. Sorry, don would appreciate that. 106 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's got a hot watch. Seriously. 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, though, people would be like, yo, bro, 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: you know I hold your sister. I'm like, what, I 109 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: have a sister? Like, well, who's that painting? You know 110 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: in the jean shorts. I'm like, dude, it my mom, 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Like back off. So everybody had that friend who had 112 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: a mom were like, you'd go over there by the 113 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: pool and everybody would just be kind of like, hey, 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: let's go sweating today. Can we go sweating? We didn't 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: have a pool. You know. That was the NFL years 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: when my dad played, which is like seventy seven day 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: eighty five. I guess it is. Uh, you know, that's 118 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: kind of the guy still had like a second job 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: in the offseason, those those kind of years, so you know, 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't like the guys today, where you know, everyone's 121 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: got a pool and a second house and a boat, 122 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff. My dad sold 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: cars in the offseason, you know, Royal osmobile just selling 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, part of them. We drove allsmobiles, you know, 125 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: station wagons. My dad was almost six foot eight, so 126 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: we didn't fit in a lot of cars. Three boys 127 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: in the back seat. We needed that third row of 128 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: seat facing the other way. The way way back there. 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: They probably would like pretend that they got motion sickness 130 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: so they didn't have to sit in the way back. 131 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: But no cell phone. You know, we're playing like bingo 132 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: on the highway, you know, looking for signs and cars 133 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: things that you know, going alphabet bingo, you know that 134 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Kids today they don't even believe it. 135 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: They're like, uh, yeah, right, dad, that that can't be true. Matt. 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing the parallel lives we've lived in some ways, 137 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: with both our dads playing in the NFL, both you know, 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: having four three boys, all of us competing playing loving sports. 139 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, four out of the six play in the NFL, 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: played quarterback. I mean it's kind of insane. Nathaniel and I, 141 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, destined for other things. And also I was 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: talking about the way that Nathaniel spells his name. That 143 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: alone is kind of cool with an ae L at 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, I like it didn't throw you for 145 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: a loop a little bit. Okay, Well that's how they 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: spell out in the Bible. So you just outed yourself. 147 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, you need to get in the Bible a 148 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: little bit more. The New Testament there, coop. Okay, well, 149 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm an Old Testament. I'm a job guy. What's the 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: show rested development job or like job and the Old 151 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Testament or both. I'm a fan of both, A big 152 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: fan of both. Actually, No, Nathaniel's awesome. So Nathaniel m 153 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: probably was too good of an athlete, you know a 154 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: little bit like you. I know, you were a wide receiver. 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Nathaniel was a wide receiver. I was kind of torn, 156 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: like do I go play wide receiver at this school 157 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: or do I go play defensive back at that school? 158 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: So he ended up choosing to go play wide receiver 159 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: at Boston College. I think he probably had some bigger 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: better like at the time, like nationally ranked schools that 161 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: were interested in him as a dB, but he didn't 162 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: want to play dB, want to play wide receiver. He knew. 163 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: So he gets to BC and in no time he's 164 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: playing corner. So like, it didn't really work out that way. So, 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, I people say all quarterbacks the toughest to 166 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: play in all of sports. Not really. I mean, if 167 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: if you've got a skill set of a quarterback and 168 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to go play corner and cover a guy 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: like Santana Moss or something like that, good luck to you. 170 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: That's the hardest job in all of sports. So um, 171 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: it's it's sort of funny because Nathaniel is probably the 172 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: best athlete in our family, and yet if he was 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback, he'd be the fastest, and if he's playing corner, 174 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you're not the fastest, you're one of 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: the slower. So but he's he's the life of the party, 176 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we love him to death. He's very successfully. 177 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: He's selling real estate out in Seattle, and um, you know, 178 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: if you would ask my kids who the coolest person 179 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: in our family is, uh, there'd be no hesitation. Nathaniel 180 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: would would win that battle. I kind of like that 181 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: I have more in common with Nathaniel every day. It's cool, 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: you know. And he's got his hair, you know. That's 183 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: the other thing. Me and Tim no hair. You know, 184 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: Nathaniels he's still going strong. Hey, I like your belt belt. 185 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: I like your belt. Yeah. This is yeah, it's kind 186 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: of kind of you know, that's aggressive. It's aggressive. It's 187 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: your confident, you know. I don't know if you know 188 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: who Clyde Christiansen is. He's the quarterbacks coach for the 189 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers right now. I love Clyde Christiansen, one 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite people. And um, small just I want 191 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: to hear your story. But we were we went out 192 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: to uh Denver a couple of weeks ago and with 193 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: with my son and Threw and Clyde Ran ran the 194 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: workouts and uh, one of the one of the best 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: guys I've ever been around. It was Arch. Loved him. Yeah, 196 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: I actually heard about that workout. I heard great things 197 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: about Arch, Amazing things actually, And the reason I had 198 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: heard about it is maybe maybe a month before my son, 199 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: who is just just turned sixteen. He uh, he did 200 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: like a couple of days of working out with Clyde 201 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Christiansen down in Tampa and uh and so it was 202 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: just great. It was like we had it amazing experience. 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I appreciated somebody else getting put through those individual drills 204 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: that Clyde put me through when he was my coach. 205 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: But one of the funny things that happened is I 206 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: had bought him, Actually, I'm wearing a shirt, a Travis 207 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: Matthew shirt, a golf shirt. I had bought him a 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Travis Matthew golf shirt, and you know, it's it's maybe 209 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: a younger brand than he's used to wear, and it's like, 210 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like slimming maybe, And he was like, wow, 211 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, like you think I can pull this off. 212 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I think it looks great on you. 213 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: And so he tries it on. He's like, hey, I 214 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: like it a lot, you know, and then he goes 215 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: to the Travis Matthew store golf store there in Tampa. 216 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Before he goes to play golf. I think Peyton had 217 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: sent him up at Augusta. Well. Anyway, the moral of 218 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the story is he decides to get aggressive like you, 219 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: and he goes with a white leather belt and he 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: like that morning, He's like, hey, you think I can 221 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: pull this belt off, And I'm like, yeah, I do. Actually, 222 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, like very few people who are grandfathers are 223 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: pulling off white belts on the golf course. So yeah, anyway, 224 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: strong strong belt game, Cooper Manning strong belt game. Uh. 225 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Clyde Christensen obviously was Peyton's coach for many years. Position 226 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: coach in Indie coach Andrew Luck. He's got quite a 227 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: resume too, obviously now Tom Brady, So no, yeah, it's 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Clyde is uh. He's forgotten more than most people know. 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: It's it's neat to have those kind of savvy veterans 230 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: yell at your children as opposed to you. So it's good. 231 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're We need to get those boys together. 232 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. They'd uh be good. From what I hear, 233 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: arches is a strong, strong k like what we got 234 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: like height and weight? What are we talking here? He's 235 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: he likes it. That's the best thing. It's just he 236 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to you know, hey, you 237 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: want to get off the couch and go throw? And 238 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: he's like he's he doesn't. What's what's his like? What 239 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: are his measurables? Like? How tall is he? What's he wed. Yeah, 240 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: he's gotten. He's in a little gross part. He's six four, 241 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: like two right to ten. Okay, yeah, is he like 242 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: squat bench? He does all that. He runs well, he's 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: he's athletic kid. He can really jump and run and 244 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: just always been kind of athletic. And so, um, I'm 245 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: glad he plays quarterback because he probably would be put 246 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: somewhere else maybe you know, long ago. And it was fun. 247 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: I think flag football was the greatest thing these boys 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: did early on because they had friends who everybody wants 249 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback, but when you're catching a bunch 250 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: of touchdowns being a receiver, it is pretty good and 251 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: you spread them out and throw it. And they just 252 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: we always had you know, guys just love to catch. 253 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I caught three touchdowns today. And so they developed and 254 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: want to be, you know, a tight end or a 255 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: running back. And so he got to play quarterback a 256 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: lot and throwed all his buddies and that was you know, 257 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: we didn't did you play flight football. We didn't have 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: flag football and football. My girls played flag football. So 259 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: when we moved to Indianapolis to play for the Colts, 260 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: they were doing like a basketball and travel soccer and 261 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And there's player there named Roosevelt 262 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Colvin used to play for the Patriots, Perdue guy, and 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I got a I got an 264 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: all girls team in this flag football league. I run 265 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you want you guys went in and he puts this 266 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: on this flag football team with these really impressive girls 267 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: who are good at basketball, good at track and field, 268 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: and they had a great team. I don't want to 269 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: say they won their league against the boys, but but 270 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: they won their league against the boys. I mean it 271 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: was like it was a talented, talented group, and my 272 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: girls just I think they developed so much confidence and athleticism. 273 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: You know, obviously they're fans of football, but like playing 274 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that at kind of a high ish level was super 275 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: helpful for them and their sports that they played after 276 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: that in high school. So my son kind of missed 277 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: out on the flag thing because there's a lot of 278 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: pressure to you know, do other things or like tackle football. 279 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: But that was more probably a product of the fact 280 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: that I was still playing. But but yeah, I would 281 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: agree with that. Just what we had was basically what 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: you and I did in that bubble in Minnesota was 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: just like two on two, you know, one hand touch 284 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: two hand touch, and we didn't have flags or anything 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: that we just we just did it. Matt. So I 286 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: was talking to my dad, told me mentioned my dad 287 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: that you and I were going to be speaking. He said, hope, 288 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: I remember vividly. A Monday night after this was in Minnesota, 289 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four is a Monday night. We have the 290 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Hassleback family over that Sunday, the Chicago Bears had set 291 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: the record for the most sacks all on him. I 292 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: think he sacked him eleven times that day. That was 293 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: the That was the you know, that eighty five defense, 294 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: just you know, in in a warm up for the 295 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: super Bow. They didn't win the supwol that year. And 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: so and then my dad loves ribs. And there's a 297 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: place in Memphis, Tennessee called the Rendezvous, and the Rendezvous 298 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: owners sent a bunch of ribs up there, and you know, 299 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: your parents came over and the boys were playing, and 300 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that was kind of the uh, the the genesis of 301 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: a you know, a lot a lot of football players 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: packed into one house right there eating ribs in Minnesota 303 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: on a Monday night with a two sword dads who 304 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: are older and beat up so well, it is funny, right, because, like, 305 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Minnesota Vikings that year were 306 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: like three and thirteen or something bad, not very good, 307 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: But I think there were a lot of lessons learned, 308 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: at least for me I could see. For me personally, 309 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about it. I feel like, 310 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, because we had just been with the LA 311 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Raiders the year before that and won the Super Bowl. 312 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: That was uh, you know that the Washington versus the 313 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: LA Raiders Super Bowl, Marcus Allen, Reversing Field like this, 314 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: all these hall of famers on that team from you know, 315 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen and Howie Long and le Alzado, Cliff branch 316 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Ted Hendrix. I mean, it was just like an impressive group, 317 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: and you would think that that was probably the year, 318 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: one of the years that was most impactful. But I 319 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: mean I would I would put that one year we 320 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: had in Minnesota three and thirteen. I think there were 321 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: three and thirteen as a year that I just feel 322 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: like I learned a lot, you know, And I don't know, 323 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: it's in these little, these little moments kind of like 324 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: you're talking about ribs at the Manning House, like the 325 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Hasslebecks and the Mannings having ribs after what seems like 326 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: a disaster of a football week or month or year, 327 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, here we are, what is it, 328 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: thirty years forty years later and we're still remembering it. 329 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's football is a funny thing where sometimes 330 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: you learn the better lessons kind of in the in 331 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: the tough times than you do and when the times 332 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: are good. And I remember when Dad told us we 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: were moving to Minnesota. First question I was, I was 334 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna be in fifth grade? I said, can we play 335 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: tackle footballcause he never let us play tag football till 336 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: sixth grade. That was kind of the rule because that's 337 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: when school started. And he called it up there and said, yeah, 338 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: they actually they start football in fifth grade. I was like, 339 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: let's go to Minnesota. So he kind of bent the rules. 340 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: We moved to Minnetonka and I played, you know, quarterback 341 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: in the fifth grade team at Tangling Elementary in Minnetonka, 342 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: and it was the greatest. I remember that year like 343 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: it was yesterday and have great remember all my friends. 344 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: It was one year we came in for a fall 345 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: and then shoot we were you know, Thanksgiving happened, and 346 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: then we go back to New Orleans and it's like 347 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: frozen in time. It's kind of an interesting life, you know, 348 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: being a football kid on the road and you remember 349 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: these little fragments of your childhood. Well, no wonder you 350 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: were better than us. You are already playing you know, 351 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: organized football. We were just still elementary kids. I can't 352 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: believe I revealed my my little Well. You know, it's 353 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: funny too, because like that was the year the Olympics 354 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: were in. It was nineteen eighty four. The Olympics were 355 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: in LA and we had just like I said, won 356 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in LA. We were, you know, football players, 357 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, you have jobs in the off season. 358 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: So we were back in Boston. My dad got started 359 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots, so we were there in 360 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: the off season, and then we're getting ready to go 361 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: back to LA for the football season. It's like during 362 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: training camp and the Olympics are there. We're all excited. 363 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: It's Carl Lewis and Mary lou Retton. It's like, you know, 364 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: all this pride for USA. And then my dad gets 365 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: injured and gets claimed on waivers to the Minnesota Vikings, 366 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: not a great team. 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Obviously, you go to Boston College six round pick. 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: You're a backup with far for a couple of years. 433 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, any tens you get it, any time you 434 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: get a chance of talking about Brett Farve and what 435 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: he was like to be, you know, to know early 436 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: on in his career, early on in your career. Any 437 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: any any stories pop up out of the gates with Brett. Yeah, well, 438 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: like a similar thing. And when I was at Boston College, 439 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: I went there to play for Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin, 440 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 1: I said, coach, you're gonna be here for you know, 441 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: my entire time at BC. There's rumors you're gonna be 442 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: the next head coach of the New York Giants. Like, 443 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: I want to know that you're not leaving for New York. 444 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, listen, I promise you I will not 445 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: leave here for the Giants job. And said, okay, great 446 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: coming to BBC. Well, after my first year he goes 447 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: in he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, So 448 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: I probably should have been way more specific in my 449 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: question to Tom Coughlin. So but but really what happened 450 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: is I had all these different coaches in my five 451 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: years at BC. One of my coaches was this guy 452 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter. Dirk Cutter, great coach. He was my coach, 453 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: my position coach for a stretch and then left, and 454 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I had three different head coaches. I'd probably five different 455 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: position coaches. Well, when it came time for me to 456 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: get invited to the Combine and do that kind of stuff, 457 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: I didn't get invited to the Combine. So, um, I 458 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: was disappoint So I'm gonna have a pro day. Well, 459 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: only one coach even shows up from my pro day. 460 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: It's the quarterback coach for the Green Bay Packers, this 461 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: guy named Andy Reid. And the only reason that he 462 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: showed up for my pro day is that he happened 463 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: to be talking to this guy, Dirt Cutter that he 464 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: coached with at Missouri and he said, hey, you know, 465 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: how's it going. What are you doing? I'm getting ready 466 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks so that in the draft, who you 467 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: got on your list? I got it. You know, a 468 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: long list of guys I don't know. He's, hey, check 469 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: out this kid, Hasselbeck at Boston College. And so he 470 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: tells him that I'm nowhere near the top of this list. 471 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm probably at the bottom of the list. Andy Reid 472 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: watches the film. He's the only guy that comes to 473 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: my pro day, and so, you know, when he comes 474 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: to my pro day, there's snow on the ground. At 475 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: the time, Boston College didn't have an indoor facility. He 476 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: says to me, he's like, hey, listen, you want to 477 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: go outside and throw in the snow? And I'm like, yeah, 478 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go. I've I've been training. And he's like, 479 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: all right, that was a test. I'm not going out 480 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: in that snow. It's a blizzard out there. I just 481 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: need to know that you'd be willing to go out 482 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: there and throw in the snow. So we end up 483 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: just talking football for a short amount of time before 484 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: he goes back to Green Bay, and a lot of 485 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: the stuff he's telling me is stuff about their quarterback, 486 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: this guy named Brett Farve, who just was in his 487 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: second consecutive Super Bowl as third consecutive MVP, and what 488 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I really heard from him was leadership, Like this guy 489 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: is a leader, like the intangibles. People talk about quarterback 490 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: intangibles all the time, And really that was the advice 491 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: that Andy Reid gave me when you get to Green Bay. 492 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: If you get to Green Bay, if we draft you, 493 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: you don't learn from this guy's mechanics, maybe his decision making. 494 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Learn the things that people call intangibles. How he knows 495 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the name, first and last name of every person in 496 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: the building, from upstairs in management to people who are 497 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: clocking in an hourly wage. Like the way he treats people, 498 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: the way he motivates the huddle without them even really 499 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: knowing that he's motivating them, the way he intimidates the 500 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: opponent without saying a word. And then like the biggest 501 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: thing that I realized when I got there, Number one, 502 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Brett was incredibly humble. Remember the first day I meet him, 503 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, hey, how are you doing. My 504 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: name is Brett. I was like, uh yeah, I just 505 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: took down the poster of you that I had in 506 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: my room all through high school because I knew I 507 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: was going to be your teammate. But he was very humble. 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: But then the biggest thing. And I learned this probably 509 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: probably most clear from Mike Holmgren, that playing the quarterback 510 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: position it's an art. It's not a science. You're an artist, 511 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: you're not a blacksmith, you're not a mathematician. It is 512 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: an art and you paint your canvas. And nobody was 513 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: better at that, in my opinion, than Brett far Brett 514 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Farve would sometimes do what he was what you would 515 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: expect him to do, and then other times he would 516 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: do what you wouldn't expect him to do, and that 517 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: made him very, very difficult to defend. And uh, you know, 518 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: really for three years I was there as a backup, 519 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: and they were paying me to be there, and I 520 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: felt like I should have been paying them. I felt 521 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: like it was like the Harvard Business School of young quarterbacks, 522 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: four young quarterbacks. And uh, just feel very very grateful 523 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: that I was given the opportunity, you know, again thanks 524 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: to Andy Reid, and thanks to this, you know, sort 525 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: of bumpy college experience with coaching turnover in the end 526 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: ended up helping me out a great bit. Well, it 527 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: sure did. I mean, Matt, you made three Pro Bowls, 528 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: you you led the Seahawks for the playoffs, six times 529 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you went to a Super Bowl. You were a mentor 530 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: in you know, roll reverse. You know you you become 531 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that mentor type of backup to a young superstar and 532 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I mean, you've lived a long, you know, 533 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: dog years in football terms, and it's been uh, it's 534 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: been fun watching you progress and watching you now on TV. 535 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: Impressive career, really impressive. One thing that when I'm looking around, 536 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of digging for stuff on you that I 537 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: found even more impressive is that you were struck by 538 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: lightning just once, though just once. See, there was there 539 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: was chatter that it might have been twice. I've heard 540 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: that it was twice. Also, I think that's on the internet. 541 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: You can believe very little of what you read on 542 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: the internet. I don't remember being struck twice. I feel 543 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: like I would remember that, but I know for sure 544 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: that I was struck once. And it's kind of a 545 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: wild story. So my wife and I, my girlfriend and I. 546 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm in college. My girlfriend and I get invited to 547 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: a wedding. I get invited to a wedding. This girl 548 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: I grew up with his marrying this hockey player. And 549 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: I don't know him, but I know her we go 550 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: to the wedding anyway, basically beautiful day, and then all 551 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's not and a lightning bolt comes 552 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: down and strikes this well kind of like a water 553 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: well right near where we're sitting in. Sixteen of us 554 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: get zapped. I mean, we get electrocuted, Okay, Like it's 555 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of the way I would describe it is. It's 556 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: like getting like an electric shock, but like a billion 557 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: times more powerful than anything you've ever felt before. And 558 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, it was a wild experience, right and every 559 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: Thankfully no one was seriously hurt. My girlfriend spent the 560 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: night in the hospital just as a precaution. I was 561 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: able to not stay. I didn't have to stay in 562 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: the hospital, but it was definitely gonna like it affected you, well, 563 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: flash forward did this year? My daughter is a freshman 564 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: at Boston College, lacrosse player. Yeah, a girl on her 565 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: floor across the hall is a softball player, okay, and 566 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: her parents it was their wedding where we got struck 567 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: by lightning. So like the kids didn't really know each 568 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: other obviously, the parents know each other. Like who would 569 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: have thought in nineteen ninety six and we get struck 570 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: by lightning that these kids would end up being good 571 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: friends and going to school together, athletes at the same school, 572 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: and kind of wild. And actually the wedding that it was, 573 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: it was the head coach of the Washington Capitals, Peter Laviolette. 574 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: It was his wedding, so he married this girl that 575 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: I grew up with. And yeah, so it's just kind 576 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: of crazy all the way around. Obviously, getting struck by 577 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: lightning is a big thing. But uh and and of 578 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: course in my very like first one of my first 579 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: road games that next season in college, we're playing at 580 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Michigan and what what do you know, like right around 581 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: halftime we have what a lightning delay? I mean, it 582 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: was just like it was it was a mental grind. 583 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: You'd be like, all right, I know the chances of 584 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: getting struck again are like super slim, but you know, 585 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: it's it's there once you get struck, Like you're you're 586 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: you're not as confident that it's not your turn to 587 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: get hit again, because you know, I played golful lot 588 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes you're playing and you know you're out there 589 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: for two holes and then you get the horn buzzes 590 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, I want to hit a play a 591 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: few more holes. I'm out here and people have some 592 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: people going no, no no, no, I'm done. You know, some 593 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: people who are pretty hardcore golfers just put everything up 594 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: and I'm always out. Did you hit the ground when it? 595 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: When it? Did it hit you? Do you? I mean 596 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: you out? And like now a guy at my table 597 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: was out like that. A guy at my table was 598 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: out like he was down. Ambulance came. I want to say, 599 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: they cut his suit off of him, like to I don't. 600 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: It was kind of a blur. No, mine, mine was interesting, 601 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Like I felt it come up through my toes to 602 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: like up to my knees I was sitting, and then 603 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: back out my toes. You know. It was like I 604 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: didn't have shoes or socks on at the time. Like 605 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned, like the weather got bad. It was raining, 606 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: it was wet. It was like an outdoor wedding a tent, 607 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and it was like it's a wedding. We're just gonna 608 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: have a good time. We're gonna have fun, we're gonna 609 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: be on the dance floor like it's all good, like whatever. 610 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: So the lightning strikes and it comes in your body 611 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: and out your body and it hurts for the moment, 612 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: but there's no like residual pain after if that makes 613 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: any sense, right, you know, like if you hit your 614 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: thumb with a hammer, like it hurts obviously when it happens, 615 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: and then it hurts for hours after that. That's not 616 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: really what lightning was like for me. So now, But 617 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: there was a guy that was out, I mean it 618 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: was you know, like I said, I heard that he 619 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: returned to the wedding reception though, so I did not 620 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: return to the wedding reception. It was I was kind 621 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: of hope and that I would have one of these 622 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: like experiences where my hair started growing back or something 623 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: like that that also did not happen. But I'm looking 624 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: and maybe I think I see a few, you know, well, 625 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope after this interview there's not a 626 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of residual pain. I can't thank you though, for 627 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: being you know, sharing some almost suit with it. You're 628 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: my first guest to actually say I'm souped out. I 629 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: can't even go you have you have water bottles? Do 630 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: you ever put a little how many? How many of 631 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: those water bottles do you drink? I go with one 632 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: and a half of these. This is one hundred and 633 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight ounces of water, it says roughly. I'm not 634 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: sure how accurate this is, but yeah, hydration is uh. 635 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I've read a thing where TB twelve, 636 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady was like, oh, my number one 637 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: thing is hydration, and I thought, well, shoot, when I 638 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: was playing, and I played till I was forty, like, 639 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: I was really good at hydration. Now that I'm done playing, 640 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm really bad at hydration. You know, I 641 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: drink more coffee than I drink water. And when I 642 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: was playing in the NFL, I'd sit in meetings all 643 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: the time, run game installation, Blitz meeting, Pass game installation, 644 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: like all these meetings, and just to pass the time, 645 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I would just drink fluids. I would drink water. I 646 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: was like, really good about that. And so I think 647 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm out five years out now and so like I 648 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, okay, I need to make some 649 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: like healthier choices, and hydration is one of the choices 650 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make. Are you drinking a lot of 651 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: alcohol now that you're retired, to be honest, a little 652 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: bit more than I should be. I don't know if 653 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: that's pandemic related, but yeah, it was like you know 654 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: that when the pandemic started, it was like flatten the curve. 655 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Flatten the curve. I'm like, cool, two weeks, I can 656 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: flatten the curve. Caffeine in the morning, alcohol at night. 657 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: And you know, we hit a lot of our favorite 658 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: shows with our kids like that week. You know, I 659 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: think we went through the entire twenty four series with 660 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: like Jack Bauer that they had never seen. You know, 661 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: we did like a lot of that kind of stuff. 662 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: And so I don't think I'm really necessarily giving anything up. 663 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of adding in some tougher workouts, adding 664 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: in hydration. My next thing, I'm gonna start stretching before 665 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: and after workouts. That's a that's the next thing on 666 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: my plate. Well we'll see how that goes though, Well 667 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: next time we'll we'll do stretching with Matt on podcast. 668 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see. Not very flexible though, you know, like, uh, 669 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, in my NFL career is funny, like all 670 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: the guys are really flexible, where the guy's always pulling muscles. 671 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: And at this fullback named Max Strong from Georgia that 672 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: was just like this amazing most underrated player I've probably 673 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: ever been around, and he was the least flexible guy 674 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: on the team, like literally could not touch his toes. 675 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: And I would look around and be like, well, shoot, 676 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: he's never hurt, he's never in the training room, he's 677 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: he's always out on the field. He's a great player. 678 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stretch less because I want to be more 679 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: like Max strong than I want to be like you know, 680 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: all the guys that are you know, have a little 681 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: nicks and bruises, and uh, it's the stupidest thing I've 682 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: ever done, maybe, but but but it I mean it worked. 683 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: I played a long time if at one surgery in 684 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: my entire life, so you know who knows. But uh, 685 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: flexibility is not a strength for me at all. But 686 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of room for improvement. So there's 687 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: there's upside there. I didn't read that chapter in TB 688 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: twelve stretched less, like I said, I just I saw 689 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: an interview. You know, Matt, I can't thank you enough. 690 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: As normally we grade out our soup, we take a 691 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: sip and say, oh boy, this was prepared day. It 692 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: looks like you got vegetable soup. I'll tell you my 693 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: go to soup right now, though, is uh tomato soup 694 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: from Panera. Okay, so my wife and I love Panera, 695 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: like order on the app. You know, it's like less 696 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: than ten minutes Panera is ready. We'll get a sandwich 697 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: and a soup, and our go to is this, this 698 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: tomato soup. It comes with a very nice French baguette, 699 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: which is amazing, and usually the wife doesn't want her, 700 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: so I get mine and it comes with crutons. I 701 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: usually don't do the crutons because the French baguette is 702 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: so good and the soup is so good that you 703 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: actually I actually take my smoke house barbecue with onions 704 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: sandwich and I'll dip it in the tomato soup. It's amazing. 705 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really good. I'm not sure if it's 706 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: really that good for me, but because it tastes too 707 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: good to be good for me, but it's it's kind 708 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: of my go to if I'm if I'm having soup, 709 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: I like to have two bowls of soup. So I'm 710 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: headed to Panera right now. I got my order in 711 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: Matt enjoyed it. My friend can't thank you enough. Always fine, 712 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: good to see you. 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