WEBVTT - Hell and Gone: Mary "Bobo" Shinn 0:00:46.480 --> 0:00:51.960 School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.360 case murders in an effort to raise public awareness invite 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.760 witnesses to come forward and present evidence that could potentially 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.960 be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.160 from family and community members, their statements should not be 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.960 considered evidence and point to the challenges of verifying facts 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.000 inherent in cold cases. We remind listeners that everyone has 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.160 presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 0:01:17.960 --> 0:01:20.840 Nothing in the podcast is intended to state or imply 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.600 that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.120 is guilty of any wrongdoing. Thanks for listening. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.200 On July twentieth, nineteen seventy eight, twenty five year old 0:01:37.320 --> 0:01:40.760 Mary Jimmy Shan, who everyone knew by her nickname Bobo, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.600 was getting ready to sell a house. Bobo Shen was 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.080 born on January eleventh, nineteen fifty three. She had grown 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.440 up in Magnolia, Arkansas, with her parents, Mary Sue and 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.440 Gresham Shin, and they were very close. After she graduated 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.680 from Southern Arkansas University in nineteen seventy six, Bobo moved 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.760 back home with her parents and she started working two 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.480 jobs her regular job and her side gig. Bobo had 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.640 opened up a studio in downtown Magnolia where she taught 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:16.440 art classes. Her dad, Gresham, was a very successful motel developer, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.800 and Bobo also shared an interest in real estate with 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.120 her dad. When we started to look into this case, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.080 we found out from the beginning there were a lot 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.480 of things reported about this case that were incorrect and 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.080 that have stayed pretty much uncorrected for almost fifty years. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.760 One of them was that Bobo was a real estate agent. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.280 According to what Columbia County Sheriff Lowes said in twenty 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.360 twenty five, that wasn't true. She was not a real 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.880 estate agent. Aside from being an art instructor, Bobo would 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.040 flip houses on the side. She had bought a house 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.080 on East McNeil Street, and after doing some renovations, Bobo 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.440 was ready to sell it. She put a classified ad 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.480 in the Banner News. It read quote beginner's delight two 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:10.040 bedroom house completely remodeled, good location end quote. On the 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.400 morning of July twentieth, Bobo and her mom went for 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.120 a walk, just like they normally did. Bobo had plans 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.320 to see a friend later that day to play tennis. 0:03:19.920 --> 0:03:22.480 But she was waiting to hear from a man who 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.240 had called about buying the house on East McNeil Street. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.680 The man supposedly had a plot of land on Highway 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.760 one thirty two. He had told Bobo that he wanted 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.120 to sell that land in exchange for the house that 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.840 she had. On that day, the buyer called Bobo at 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.240 around eleven am. He told Bobo that his car was 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.960 being repaired at the Pawnee Car dealership in town. He 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.360 reportedly mentioned taking a cab, but Bobo said she would 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:54.160 give him a ride. Now, what exactly happened when is 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.960 something we're still trying to figure out. We're trying to 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.400 separate fact from rumor, but we do know some things 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.120 for sure. Bobo and this guy who claimed to be 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.720 a prospective buyer did make arrangements for her to pick 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.480 him up at the easy Mark across the street from 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:15.800 the Pontiac dealership. Before she left, According to Ay magazine, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.400 Bobo told her friend that she would see her at 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.680 around one point thirty that afternoon, and before hanging up, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.640 she jokingly said, quote, come look for me if I'm 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:30.120 not back this afternoon end quote. She never came back, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.560 and her friends and family never saw her alive again. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.560 I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past eight years of making 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.600 my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've learned there is 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.000 no such thing. It's a small town where murder never happens. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.360 I have received hundreds of messages from people all around 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.480 the country asking for help with an unsolved murder that's 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:57.000 affected them, their families, and their communities. If you have 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.960 a case you'd like me and my team to look into, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.360 you can reach out to us at our Helen Gone 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.960 Murder line at six seven eight seven four four six 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:09.120 one four five. That's six seven eight seven four four six' 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.560 one four, five or you can send us a message 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:18.000 On instagram At hell and. Gonepod this Is Helen Gone Murder. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:06:06.760 Line in high, School bobo was a. Cheerleader she was 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.160 known among her friends as being kind and, fun but 0:06:10.280 --> 0:06:13.640 also at the same, time she was serious and, responsible 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.400 and she was planning for the. Future that's why When 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.920 bobo didn't come home for dinner that, night her, Mother Mary, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:26.160 sue immediately knew something was. Wrong, first her mom made 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.800 contact With bobo's, friend the one she'd been planning to 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.560 play tennis, with and figured out what went down With 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.560 bobo and the phone call from the guy claiming to 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.040 be a prospective house. Buyer according to the Log Cabin, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:42.440 Democrat bobo talked to her friend shortly after eleven. Am 0:06:42.840 --> 0:06:45.360 that was the last person that we know of who 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.200 spoke With bobo on the. Phone once police realized That 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.080 bobo was, missing they And bobo's family were trying to 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.320 piece together exactly what happened on that fateful morning and 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.200 When bobo's friend said that she Called bobo at her 0:07:01.280 --> 0:07:03.840 art studio to see If bobo wanted to hang out that. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.400 Afternoon bobo said, yes but that she wasn't sure if 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.480 she could do it or, not or if she, could 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.320 what time she would be. Finished she told her friend 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.440 she was waiting for the call from the man who 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.880 may want to buy the house on McNeil. Street this 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.600 buyer Told bobo he had property On highway one thirty, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.200 two and then he suggested the swap her house for his. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.200 Land shortly after they hung, Up bobo called her friend. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.560 Again she said she had talked to the guy and 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.320 that his car was being. Repaired that's when she told 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.600 her friend she was planning to pick this guy up 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.760 at The Easy. Mart this is important because we Know 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.160 bobo was at her art studio when she talked to 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.440 her girlfriend and when she got the call from the. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:50.200 Buyer bobo's, Sister linda believes That bobo may have stopped 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.520 at home first before going to meet the, buyer because 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.280 she Said bobo's curling iron was plugged in and her 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.200 makeup was. OUT a little after eleven am that, day 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.640 police were told that a man had come into The 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.160 Easy mart asking for change so that he could use the. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.000 Payphone the description led to a composite of a white 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.280 male mid, twenties approximately five foot, eight about one hundred 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.160 and eighty five to two hundred, pounds with, dark curly. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:23.640 Hair according To ay magazine's, reporting the employee also remembered 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.440 something distinctive about this man's, walk describing it as a lazy. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:33.120 Gait one reported siding Placed bobo at The east McNeil 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.440 street house with a bearded man sometime late that. Morning 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.720 another report placed her at The Easy mart around eleven, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.640 forty where a man who was believed to be the 0:08:42.680 --> 0:08:47.000 prospective buyer got into her. Car after, That bobo was 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.000 reportedly seen at the traffic light At pine And Main. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:55.720 Street after, that the trail goes. Cold bobo's, Mother Mary, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:09:00.120 sushin called the, police and she started Calling bobo's, friends 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.560 but no one had seen. Her one Of bobo's close, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.560 Friends Randy, avery called my podcast to talk to us 0:09:08.560 --> 0:09:11.760 about her case and what he remembers from the days 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:12.440 after she went. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:17.680 Missing SO i attended college In, magnolia which is Now 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.960 Southern Arkansas. University at the TIME i, attended it Was 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.800 Southern State, college AND i Believe bobo AND i started 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.320 our freshman year there at the same. Time in nineteen seventy. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.600 ONE i was from a small town about forty miles, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.360 away SO i didn't Know bobo prior to, college AND 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.480 i began dating a young lady that was very good 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.760 friends With, bobo WHO i later, married And bobo was 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.960 a bridesmaid in our, wedding And bobo began dating a 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.720 very good friend of. MINE i graduated in nineteen seventy. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.680 FIVE i Think bobo graduated the following, year nineteen seventy. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.920 Six nineteen seventy six is the year That bobo's friend 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.800 AND i got, married and we relocated From, magnolia first 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.120 To Little rock and then later To Hot. Springs we 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.120 still had contact With bobo and my. Friend it was her. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.040 Boyfriend the four of us over the years did a 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.600 number of things together and went on camping. Trips so 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.560 we were In Hot springs When bobo disappeared there in 0:10:24.680 --> 0:10:28.480 nineteen seventy, Eight SO i think it was probably the next, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.760 Day july twenty, first nineteen seventy, eight when my then 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.200 wife got a call About, bobo AND i was working 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.760 out in the feild at the time and took off 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.880 work and we hustled down To, magnolia myself and my 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.800 friend who had been Dating, bobo And i'm sure multitudes 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:54.440 of other. People we took part in driving through the 0:10:54.720 --> 0:11:00.000 rural areas Around, magnolia just hoping to see and find 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.520 anything that might help find, her and nothing was ever. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.880 Found one of the places Where Mary sue searched while 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.360 looking for her daughter was The Jordan Brothers Pontiac, dealership 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.800 which is the place where the guy who was Meeting 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.600 bobo said his car was being. Repaired she talked to 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.840 a salesman, there someone who said they had seen a 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.200 car Like, bobo's a nineteen seventy Six buick s And 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.120 ann at around, noon and that a man got into 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.640 the Car, however the salesman did not say what this 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.520 man looked. Like but then the salesman Told Mary sue 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.200 that while he was driving, home he Saw bobo's car 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.160 parked in a back corner Of smitty's grocery. Store the 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:50.200 car had. Damage it had deep scratches and damage to 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:55.600 the left rear. Fender investigators also noticed plant debris inside the, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.320 car which led them to believe that it may have 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.440 been driven somewhere off road and later. Abandoned once the 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.280 car salesman spotted the, car he stopped and noticed that 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.080 the door was. Unlocked according To ay, magazine he actually 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.840 recognized the car because he had sold it to The. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.960 Shens he decided to look inside to see if it 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.360 Was bobo's. Vehicle when he did look, inside he Found 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:25.640 bobo's keys in the. Ignition bobo's purse with money still in, 0:12:25.680 --> 0:12:28.760 it was inside the. Car her stuff was scattered around. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:33.400 Everywhere underneath the brake, pedal there were white canvas tennis, shoes, 0:12:33.560 --> 0:12:39.640 sunglasses and a paperback. Novel employees later confirmed they had 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.680 first Seen bobo's car At Smitty's grocery not long abut 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:48.160 after one. Pm, unfortunately the crime scene was not secured 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.560 until later that, afternoon around five or six, pm and 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.520 in that, time it has been reported multiple people went 0:12:55.560 --> 0:13:01.880 through the, vehicle potentially disturbing crucial. Evidence soon everyone in 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.680 town Knew bobo was, missing and they all got together 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:05.560 to try to find. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:25.000 Her, volunteers, friends, family and, local state and eventually federal 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.160 investigators all got involved in this search For. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.960 Bobo missing posters went out With bobo's description on them 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.640 five foot, six one hundred and eighteen, pounds with a 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.200 scar on her left cheek and a birthmark on her, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.280 forehead plus a description of the jewelry that she was, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:46.720 wearing which included a Cuss May dimond. Necklace the hunt 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.880 was on For, bobo but also for this mystery home. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.400 Buyer was he someone, local as law enforcement seemed to, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.240 believe or could he have been passing through town randomly 0:13:57.560 --> 0:14:01.440 and seen the ad and decided to Target. Bobo according 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.800 To ay, magazine police believed That bobo had met the 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.200 man once before before she saw him On july. Twentieth 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.320 they believed she showed him her house on McNeil street 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.600 for the first time the day, before On july, Nineteenth 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.320 so On july, twentieth when she offered to give this 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.560 man a ride that would have been a second. Viewing 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.520 this could be important in my, opinion because it signals two. Things, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.120 One bobo obviously felt comfortable enough with this man to 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.360 see him a second time and to give him a 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.840 lift in her. Car and, two this seems like a 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.600 very risky move on his. Part how could he have 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.040 known that she wouldn't mention his name to anyone? One 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.880 what did he tell her when he looked at that? 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.000 House did he give her a fake? Name, also, he 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.680 in my, opinion took a huge risk picking her up 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.120 at a spot right across the street from her art 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:02.040 studio at The Easy. Mart there were mentions of some 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.440 early people of. Interest according to media, reports a carpenter 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.200 who worked across the street from the House bobo was 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.040 selling on McNeil street said that on the day she went, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.160 missing he saw a man. There the carpenter described this 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.960 man as being, white twenty five to twenty eight years, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.720 old with dark brown, hair a, beard and a, mustache 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.680 six foot one to six foot two inches tall and 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.360 around two hundred and fifteen to two hundred and twenty five, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.600 pounds wearing a mesh baseball cap and driving a dark 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.920 Green pontiac with a light green vinyl, top maybe a 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.680 nineteen sixty nine or nineteen Seventy bonnieville Or catalina. Model 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.120 the carpenter said he saw this man With bobo between 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:47.800 around ten eleven, am but it was later reported that 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:52.120 this sighting might have been someone, else because apparently there 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.440 was a neighbor someone who went on a lunch break 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:59.080 at eleven thirty, am and this neighbor reportedly looked a 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.400 lot like the person the carpenter had, described so police 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:09.280 believed the carpenter may have seen the neighbor. Instead there 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.080 was another sighting of a stranger at The Easy mart 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.560 at ELEVEN, am a man who was described as, white 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.880 mid twenties with dark curly, hair about five foot eight inches, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.600 tall weighing one hundred and eighty five to two hundred. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.720 Pounds this man came into the store at around eleven. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.640 Am he asked for a quarter to use the payphone 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.240 so that he could make a. Call according to what 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.440 the employee told the, police he made a call on 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.400 that payphone and left after about five. Minutes the timing 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.280 interested law enforcement because this would have been approximately the 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.000 time When bobo got the. Call from the man who 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.080 wanted to see the, house and The easy Mart is 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.440 where they arranged to. Meet this timeline has been one 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.160 of the hardest things to pin down because we don't 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.640 have any access to the case. File this is still 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.040 an open. Investigation we do have a few things to 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.000 Anchor bobo's, day namely the two calls from her, girlfriend 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.520 the sighting of her at the McNeil street, home probably 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.720 sometime shortly after eleven. Am the salesman from the dealership 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:21.000 told police he Found bobo's car At Smitty's grocery at 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.880 around one. Pm remember we said before that among the 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.600 items found in the car were these white canvas tennis. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.960 Shoes there were rumors that they may not have Been, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.360 bobo's but police said later this probably was not true 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.280 because there were also sunglasses and a novel found inside the, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.320 car And bobo's dad Said bobo would sometimes spend time 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.520 at one of the motels he made and she would 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.080 lie out by the, pool so the tennis, shoes sunglasses 0:17:48.120 --> 0:17:51.280 and books were probably in the car for that. Reason 0:17:52.360 --> 0:17:54.960 bobo's wallet was still in the purse with all of 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.280 the money, inside so robbery did not appear to be 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.560 the motive. Here in, fact all Of bobo's stuff was 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.920 still in that. Car, however there was one thing of 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.120 hers that was not in the. Car bobo's address, book 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:13.720 which she carried with her, everywhere was. Missing they never 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.720 found that address. BOOK i do wonder could it have 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.000 had the name of the Man bobo was meeting that. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:26.240 Day investigators never found out who that person. Was police 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.000 started to investigate the damage done to the car to 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.600 see if they could find any physical. Evidence Ay magazine 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.560 reported that in addition to the damage to the, fender 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.640 there were seeds and bits of grass inside the. Vehicle 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.400 over the, years the case went cold and became infamous 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:51.360 in the. Region bobo's, disappearance along With Maud crawford's disappearance 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.920 in fayettvill was one of the biggest cold cases in 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.400 that region Of, arkansas and, federal, state and local authorities 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.320 all got, involved but they didn't say very, much just 0:19:03.360 --> 0:19:07.920 that foul play was. Suspected but over the, Years Columbia 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:12.080 County Sheriff Mike lowe said police followed tons of leads 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:17.640 and never stopped working the. Case Sheriff lowe was working 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.480 with The Arkansas State police When bobo, disappeared he worked 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.640 on it way back. Then, later after he retired from THE, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.760 asp he became sheriff Of Columbia, county so he started 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:33.640 working the case. AGAIN a few months After bobo, disappeared 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.680 The shins hired a private investigator Named William deer who 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.240 was based In. Dallas, now this would prove to be 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:56.520 a hugely controversial. Move as we've often discussed in this, 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:01.560 podcast relationships between police and the private investigators hired by 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.280 the family can get complicated. Fast i've looked up a 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.040 lot of old newspaper articles to try to put together 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.720 what went, down and it seems like at first there 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.600 was kind of a grudging respect between law enforcement And 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.920 William deer and his team of. Detectives the sheriff at 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.640 the time made comments to journalists About William deere being, 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:28.040 professional but that fell apart at some. Point After William 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.280 deere publicly announced On november, twentieth nineteen seventy, nine that 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.720 he had a, Suspect William dear stated it was someone 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.360 who had taken his own life a few months After bobo. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.320 Vanished it was later reported the dead man Who William 0:20:43.360 --> 0:20:46.480 deeer was referring to was a man Named Michael. Morse 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.240 William dear spoke To michael's, Mother, karen and asked her 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.960 if she would be willing to open up her late husband's. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:58.400 Grave Apparently William dear had gotten a Tip bobo could 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:02.120 be buried, there, so along With Sam, tatum the director 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.480 at the time of The State Crime, commission and some 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.560 other local, Authorities William deer was there when the grave 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.800 Of Michael morris's father was. Opened Karen morris told The 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.800 Batesville guard when she Gave William dear permission to open that, 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.800 grave that she was never told that he considered her, Son, 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:25.480 michael a suspect unbeknownst to. Her according to The Batesville, 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.640 Guard William dear got that tip About bobo being buried 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.960 in the grave from a, psychic, which if, true and 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.680 this is just my, opinion does make me question Why 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:41.280 William dear took that tip so. Seriously at some, Point 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.920 William dear in The shin family guarded. Ways The Jonesborough 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.360 star reported in nineteen eighty six That William deer had 0:21:49.360 --> 0:21:53.200 also butted heads with then Prosecutor Mike, kennard and that 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.840 the bad blood went both. Ways William deere was openly 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.880 stating he didn't believe the police investigation was up to. 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:04.360 Scratch the prosecutor denied that and also said that Quote 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:09.440 deer's actions and the publicity hurt prospects for any prosecution end. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:14.080 Quote In december of nineteen seventy, six The Batesville guard 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.880 did a follow up on The Michael morse. Rimmers they 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.960 reported That Russell, welch a former state police, investigator told 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:25.240 the newspaper that authorities had spoken To Michael morse before 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.240 he took his own life and that they were quote 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:32.720 satisfied that he was not involved in Miss schen's disappearance end. 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.800 Quote Russell welch went on to explain a little more 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.640 about how the police investigated that. Tip he said police 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:44.240 got an anonymous tip Stating Michael morse matched the description 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.560 of the man Whom bobo was planning to. Meet Russell 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.640 welch said they Questioned Michael moose and That michael did 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.520 not match the description of the house. Hunter, also he 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.280 Said Michael morse had an alibi for the Day bobo. 0:22:57.360 --> 0:23:02.400 Disappeared Michael morse's, Mother, karenne and his, Widow Norma mors 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.400 ended up finally a two million dollar lawsuit Against William 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.960 deer And Sam, tatum the director of The State Crime, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:14.440 commission alleging they falsely Accused michael of abducting and Murdering Bobo. 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:20.960 Shin bobo's father has put up several rewards over the. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.440 Years after she went, missing he immediately offered a reward 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.760 in connection with her, case ten thousand dollars for any 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.880 information involving her location and twenty five thousand dollars for 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:36.960 her safe. Return The shns reportedly never hired another private. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:41.000 Investigator after three years of doing everything they could think 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.280 of to, do they told their other children they were 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.560 ready to start focusing on their living family again and 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:52.200 letting law enforcement do their. Jobs in twenty twenty, two 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.720 forty four years After bobo, vanished the news CHANNEL ktve 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.000 did an interview With. Sherifflow he gave the news channel 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.360 some details about some of the evidence that was found 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.320 inside the. Car the article states there was, gravel, dirt, 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:12.640 grass and fingerprints. Found the article reads quote fingerprints were 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:17.080 found inside but have yet to be. Identified low indicated 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.680 the person who committed the crime was a local end. 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:25.200 Quote my question is how did he know? That if 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.920 the fingerprints weren't. Identified the sheriff, said, quote the best 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.480 timeline that we can put together from the time she 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.680 disappeared until the time her vehicle showed back up At 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.760 smithy's grocery store parking lot is approximately fifty seven, minutes 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:45.640 so that vehicle didn't go very. Far in, quote if 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.440 whoever Took bobo drove her or her body somewhere else 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.600 and then returned the, car the sheriff is, right they 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.600 could not have gone too. Far there was one more. 0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:01.640 Tip law enforcement published photos Of bobo's, car and after they, 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.960 did they got a call from The Columbia county assessor 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.560 who said he was bailing hay on property Near highway 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.240 thirty two the day of the, disappearance at around. Noon 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.040 he said at that time he saw a blue car 0:25:15.120 --> 0:25:17.360 with what appeared to be a man and a woman 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:21.560 struggling inside. It could she have been in a hay 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.880 field somewhere because The Magnolia reporter article, stated in addition 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.280 to the scratches on the, car there was a coating 0:25:28.360 --> 0:25:31.560 of dust on the vehicle and that on the driver's 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.080 side floorboard there were pieces of hay that appeared to 0:25:35.120 --> 0:25:39.840 have broken off when the door was, Closed Bobo shin 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.520 was never. Found none of her remains were ever. Found 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.000 because of, that investigators had no body and no primary crime, 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.960 scene only a, car a phantom house, buyer and a 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:55.920 few pieces of. Hay who was the man who Called 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.720 bobo to see the house that? Day could he have 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.720 been someone randomly passing through, town someone who took advantage 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:06.160 of a woman showing a house, alone or was this 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:10.320 as former Sheriff low has, said he believes someone, local 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:17.360 someone Stalking. Bobo bobo's sister Told ay magazine that their 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:21.280 mother would not leave the house for years unless she 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.840 could be sure someone was home to answer the phone 0:26:24.120 --> 0:26:29.320 in Case bobo. Called Both bobo's mother and her father 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.840 are dead, now and their tombstones are next To, bobo's 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.640 But bobo's friends in the community have not forgotten. Her 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.360 in twenty, fourteen on the thirty sixth anniversary of her, 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:44.560 disappearance they held a celebration of life for. Her they 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.960 hope that maybe someone listening to this will remember someone 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.400 acting oddly that, day or maybe that a customed diamond 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.800 necklace will show up, somewhere maybe in a hope. Chest, 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.440 eventually The Pontiac dealership became A japanese. Restaurant The Easy 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:06.120 mart store turned into a. Barbershop in twenty twenty, five 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:10.480 at a press, conference police announced they conducted a. Search 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.800 Now Former Sheriff, flow who is still involved in the, 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:19.040 investigation stated law enforcement had searched somewhere in The Bussy charman, 0:27:19.120 --> 0:27:22.960 area which is ON Us highway three seventy one between 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.760