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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, and 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: welcome in Warriors. Let's be honest kind of throw the Mavericks. Yeah, 13 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Andrew Wiggins. So years ago 14 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: when I worked at the other place, he was the 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: number one pick out of Kansas. Very skinny, you know, 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: his Canadian background parents were very athletic, and years ago 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: in college basketball, you knew when a Tim Duncan or 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: a Patrick Ewan came out. They were such dominant multiple 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: year players in college basketball. You could see they were 20 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: pros playing college basketball, almost like watching Jamar Chase the 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver for LSU in college, you were watching a 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: pro at the collegiate level, like some guys are obvious. 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Chase Young for Ohio State was a pro just happened 24 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: to be, you know, not eligible for the National Football League. 25 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: But in this last fifteen to twenty years, you'll see 26 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: guys that are super talented, but they're eighteen, they're nineteen. 27 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: And I remember saying about Andrew Wiggins, he can't bust. 28 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: And a friend of mine who's a scout, said, be careful. 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: You just don't know these guys like they may get 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: into this league. So he comes in with Minnesota. I 31 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: don't watch a lot of t Wolves games, and has 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: coincidence would have it. I went to a Clipper game, 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: it was against the t Wolves. I went to a 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Laker game. It was against the t Wolves, and I thought, 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: oh good, I'm gonna size him up. And my takeaway 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: was that he wasn't a bust. But he would score 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four points, and I didn't remember 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: any of them. Everything was just inconsequential. I didn't remember 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: any of his points. And I remember I had a 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: couple of friends. One of my friends in radio, Scott 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Shapiro was from Minnesota, and I would be like, I 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: just don't get it. He's like, just be patient, patient, 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: and like by the third year, I'm like, I don't 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: remember a single basket of his career. And then he 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: goes to the Warriors, And what you found out with 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Wiggins pretty quickly was he's not an alpha. He's not 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: a one. He doesn't like the pressure. He's a one talent, 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: but he's not a one mindset. And the longer he 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: was in Minnesota, it started questioning whether he was at two. 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: So he goes to Golden State eventually, and his game 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: is the opposite of Minnesota. I remember every basket, everything matters, 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: everything is perfectly timed. Forget just the dunks. He's such 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a tough matchup for Luca because he's a much more 54 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: vertical player than Lucas. So Luca pump fakes, he can 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: block that shot without having to leave his feet. He's 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: that quick. He's so fast and twitchy vertically, So he's 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: a tough matchup for Luca, and nobody's gonna stop Luca. 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: But he's in tremendous shape as Wiggins, he's very twitchy. 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: They can throw Draymond at Luca. They can put Wiggins 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: on him. But I think what's interesting about Luca is 61 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: when these kids come out of college, now, these one 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: and done kids, it's he was never a one personality. 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: You probably would have been able to tell that with 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: two more years of college, or if he stays to 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: a junior or senior year. But so much of the 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: draft now is projecting what is personality, is projecting how 67 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: he will handle the spotlight. It's almost as if the 68 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Warriors are the perfect culture for him. It's Steph's team. 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: He drives to the arena every night with no pressure 70 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: to score twenty five. If he does, it's icing. He 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be the two. He doesn't have 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: to be the soul of the team. He doesn't have 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: to be the number one defender. Dra can do that. 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: He didn't have to be a catalyst on either end 75 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: of the floor. And I think that's his personality when 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the pressures not on and he can just play and 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: give you his defense, his athletic ability. I mean, he 78 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: can got a nice stroke. That dunk he did tonight. 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's maybe it's not Doctor Jay Rock the 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Cradle at the Spectrum against Michael Cooper that's a top 81 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: ten playoff dunk. I mean, that thing was a poster. 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: And I just think when Wiggins came over to the Warriors, 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: we all looked at him as a trade piece. Yeah, 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: they'll move off him. He's become really, really valuable, and 85 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: as Steph Ages and as Clay, you know, we don't 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: know if Clay will ever be exactly what he was. 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: And as much as I like Jordan Pool, Wiggins was 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: the number one pick, Jordan Pool is a twenty eighth pick. 89 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, Andrew is really different athletically than virtually everybody 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: on that team. And I just as I watch him 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: in this Warrior series, he's the opposite of Minnesota. He's relaxed. 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: There is no pressure. He doesn't have to be the 93 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: top defender, the catalyst, the soul of the offense. And 94 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I just think that fits his personality. It's just the 95 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Warriors just work for Andrew Wiggins. And he made that 96 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: first All Star Game and then didn't necessarily have a 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: great second half of the regular season, but he's been 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: magnificent in the playoffs and what the Warriors do against Luca. 99 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: And this is kind of what I predict that I 100 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: said outside of Michael Bridges, Booker and Chris Paul can't 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: defend Luca, just can't. But the Warriors have so many 102 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: different options. They're not even playing Jonathan Kuminga who I 103 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: think matches up with him pretty well. They don't even 104 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: have to play him. So this is a bad matchup 105 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: for Dallas and you can just see it. They're pressing. 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: You get curse coaching where they box in one Luca, 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: they zone him, they trap him, and you know, a 108 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Spencer Dinwity on a night that Luca is free is wonderful. 109 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: But on a night where Luca is not getting great 110 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: shots and did what he has to step up and 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: in a lot of possessions be a one, he's a 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: three in this league. So it just feels like to me, 113 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: this is a really bad matchup for the Dallas Mavericks. 114 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: I want to bring in Jason temp now. Jason is 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: a guy that we brought on the NBA season had started, 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: and he does Hoops to Night and Lakers Tonight. He's 117 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: really grown with us at the volume. He absolutely plays 118 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: the sport, loves the sport, obsessed by the sport, and 119 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: he can already break it down almost like a coach 120 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I wanted to kind of keep it 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: on for my commentary tonight on Wiggins and Luca, and 122 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: so let's bring Jason on and dive a little deeper 123 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: on what he saw tonight. You know, Jason, I understand 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: people who hate the Warriors. They acquire KD. You know, 125 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Steph's smugging for the camera. They've won a lot, like 126 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I get it, But I think it's beautiful basketball. The cutting. 127 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of teams say they 128 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: get along. I can watch the Warriors until they get along, 129 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's Kerr, it's Steph, it's Clay, 130 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: but there is a harmony. Jason. You can go to 131 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: the y and there are just times you get the 132 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: right five guys and they're just they move without the ball. 133 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: But I the harmony watching the Warriors play. You can 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: hate them. They don't even look like the remaining three 135 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: offenses to me, I mean, you're a hooper. I love 136 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: watching them play. I think it's tremendous television. That's might 137 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: take on Golden State. They're impossible to replicate. You know, 138 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: they're the most unique team in the NBA, and teams 139 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: have tried, but they failed. Do you remember the Luca 140 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Donschitz trade, the one that sent the Atlanta Hawks two 141 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: first round picks, one for Trey Young, one for Kevin Herder, 142 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: And all the talk surrounding that day was we're trying 143 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: to replicate the Steph Clay backcourt. And then they went 144 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: out to play basketball and they played just like everyone else, 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: because it's such a unique style and it requires a 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: selflessness and a commitment to moving without the basketball being 147 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: a threat at all times, you know, being a part 148 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: of something bigger than yourself. But not only that, but 149 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: a commitment to the defensive end. Steph and Clay, pretty 150 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: much from their time when they first started playing with 151 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Team USA, embrace the defensive end in a way that 152 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: so many offensive minded guards have not. And when you 153 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: combine that with their unique offensive playstyle, they're extremely difficult 154 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: to replicate, to prepare for. I think Dallas. You know, 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: they're making Dallas look bad. Dallas is not bad. Dallas 156 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: was the second best team in the league since January first. 157 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: They beat Phoenix for a good reason. You know, they demonstrated, 158 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, their ability to completely dissect you know, traditional 159 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: basketball teams. The Golden State's not a traditional basketball team. 160 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: They're going to put you in tough spots and Dallas 161 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: just hasn't been able to match it. You know, I 162 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: said before the series, I thought Phoenix, outside of McHale Bridges, 163 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, Booker and Chris Paul just don't match up 164 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: at all with Luca. He's thick. You know, people lament 165 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: his cardio shape, but he's he's heavy. I mean, he's 166 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: like a he's like a lumbering fullback. He's just a 167 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: lot of body on you. But Draymond and Wiggins and 168 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: they didn't play comingo much but he and I just 169 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: found throughout the course of this series is they didn't 170 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: buy his pump fakes. Like Wiggins is so twitchy, he 171 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have to he'll block the shot. And I think 172 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: there was a real discipline the way Golden State played. 173 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: They're like, listen, we're gonna just keep him in front 174 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: of us, don't buy his fakes. If he hits the shots, 175 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: he hits the shots. And I thought, as good at 176 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: Monty Williams is a good coach, but I didn't think 177 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: they were terribly disciplined with Luca got any pump fake 178 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: and Phoenix was in the air, And I think Golden 179 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: States just said we're not leaving our feet. I mean 180 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: I can almost hear occur we're not leaving our feet that. 181 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: That's when I watched them against Luca. Whether it's a box, 182 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: a trap, the zone, it's all the same principles to me. 183 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think Luca not that he's frustrated, but it's 184 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: it's he gets almost everybody in the league, Jason in 185 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: the air, and Golden State's not buying any of it. Yeah, 186 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins's twitchiness buys him margin for error on defense. 187 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to beat you to a spot. He 188 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: can recover that elite recovery athleticism basically allows him to 189 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: play more disciplined on defense. You know, I thought a 190 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: huge swing factor in this series was, you know, coming 191 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: into the series, the question was, are we going to 192 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: let Luca play isolation ball and stay home on shooters, 193 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: or are we going to send help towards Luca and 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, play the gambling game with the shooting. And 195 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: throughout this entire series, there's been one stretch where Dallas 196 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: has consistently made shots, and it was the first half 197 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: of Game two, and they decided to mail in the 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: defensive end in the second half. A thing that you 199 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: young inexperienced teams that haven't built up the necessary scar tissue, 200 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: the pain of losing. They let an opportunity slip there 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: because they rely so heavily because Golden State was sending 202 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: so much help to Luca. They rely on people knocking 203 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: down those open shots. And to be clear, they did. 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Through two rounds. They were an amazing, wide open three 205 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: point shooting team. But they got into this series and 206 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: they stopped going down and they had no second punch 207 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: and versatility wins in the playoffs. If you can take 208 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: away a team's best punch and they don't have a 209 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: counter that they can go to, you're almost always going 210 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: to win. In that case, Golden State has a bunch 211 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: of differ for ways they can go. Yeah, I listen, 212 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: I just I feel it's a bad matchup for Dallas. 213 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I think listen. You can watch football games, basketball games. 214 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: There are times when one team just has more dudes, 215 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and it's like Golden State's got flexibility and the ability 216 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: to They've got just so many guys that can do 217 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: different things. And this is without Peyton, who's going to 218 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: come back probably in the finals, so he's another guy 219 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: that can guard to one, he can guard to two. 220 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: I want to pivot. I think Boston's better than Miami, 221 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: but I think Spoelstra this is my belief. I think 222 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: he incurred the best two coaches in the league, and 223 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Papavich certainly is that in that space. I said after 224 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Golden State and Boston one Game two, I said, what 225 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: I fear with both is they both know they're more talented, deeper, 226 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: and better. I said what I fear is because I've 227 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: seen this with Golden State during the KD times too, 228 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: they really don't show up. I mean they're you know, Jason, 229 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: when offense is easy, it is easy to mail it 230 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: in because it now if you're a defensive team. What 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: scares me about Boston is offense isn't easy for Boston 232 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: and they still mailed it in. And it was like whoa, whoa, whoa, 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Like come on now this Like you and I have 234 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: seen Golden State. I've seen this with football teams Kansas City, 235 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: like sometimes the defense knows they don't have to make 236 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: a stop right it matters, Boston has to work on 237 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the offensive end to score. I thought that performance in 238 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Game three, I mean I did think Miami would be competitive. 239 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: I thought it would. What did you make of it? 240 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: It was almost arrogant. It was bizarre, you know, because 241 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: they've had they've been the jekylin High team of this 242 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: playoff run when they are going on both ends of 243 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: the flour, nobody can touch them. But it's been their 244 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: offense that's been inconsistent. You know, the cliche like, oh, 245 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: they need a point guard. Well, in this case, the 246 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: cliche is actually true. For Boston. They lack a floor general, 247 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: like a game manager, someone who understands the flow of 248 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: the game and can get people in spots and settle 249 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: them down when they're losing, you know, when they're losing 250 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: sight of what they're supposed to be doing. What was 251 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: so strange about last night was they mailed it in 252 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: on defense and that's just completely inexcusable and like and 253 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: so that's the thing, like, you know, we can safely 254 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: assume Golden States going to the finals. You and I 255 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: both like Boston to make it. So we're looking at 256 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: that series and you know, my basketball mind tells me, 257 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, Boston's the better team. They should be able 258 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: to get this done, right, But I don't trust them. 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't trust them. 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You know, I think you bring up 297 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: a really Jason, a really good point. Is that what 298 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you're seeing with Boston, and I saw it is Dallas 299 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: tried to make several runs at the Warriors. You know, 300 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: Curry just has an ability. He's so elusive. You know, 301 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: he just starts. He gets every you know, he gets passed. 302 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: He's still got Sometimes I think he doesn't have the 303 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: separation quite that he did three years ago on his shot, 304 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: but boy does he have a great first step on 305 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: the when he puts the ball on the deck, Like 306 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: he he gets pasted virtually everybody in this league. And 307 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: whereas Harden now can't get either he can't get the 308 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: separation on the shot or passed you. And so when 309 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Golden State's having, you know a little the avalanche works 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: against you, I always feel like Curry can kind of 311 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: bring it back. They'll at least get good shots. They 312 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: may not hit them, but they'll get it. Boston's an 313 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: interesting team, smarts a defensive player. He's he's not respected 314 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: enough offensively to scare anybody, right, So I do think 315 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: sometimes Boston lacks a Again, Jaylen Brown's more the athlete, 316 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Jason's Tatum's the wing, the dominant wing score, who's the 317 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: guy and my things? If they lose this series. I've 318 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: seen Marcus Smart, Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum for five years. 319 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: They're all better versions of what we knew they were 320 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: by the All Star break at their first year. One's 321 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: a defender, one's an elite B plus player but an 322 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: elite athlete, and one's a star. Okay, after five years 323 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: of this thing, Chris Middleton's not getting hurt. My takeaway 324 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: is I keep Tatum, I probably keep Marcus Smart. Isn't 325 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: there an argument? But if you guys cannot get past 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: the heat with two undrafted starters in Milwaukee without Middleton 327 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: and Philly was kind of a mass Could I not 328 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: make the argument You've got to take a swing in 329 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: the off season, well, regardless of what happens the rest 330 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: of this playoff run, because Boston still very well could win. 331 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: But regardless of what happens, this has been exposed as 332 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: a massive weakness, and you're right, it's a redundancy. You've 333 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: got three guys that, when they have it going, look 334 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: good as playmakers, but they don't always have it going, 335 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: and they can very easily lose. You know, they lose 336 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: their identity in that sense, when you have this many 337 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: guys that all kind of do the same thing, driving 338 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: kick guys that aren't. You know, what you're referring to 339 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: is that guy like what Steph is for Golden State, 340 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: the guy that can methodically break down a defense on 341 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: every possession, meaning on every possession they can consistently get 342 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: to a spot where either they're comfortable as a score 343 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: or they're comfortable reading the defense as they send additional attention. 344 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Brown and Tatum have gotten better at that over the years, 345 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: but it's not their natural instinct, and so even when 346 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: they have. You know, no matter what you are as 347 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: a basketball player, you always will fight your tradition of 348 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: whatever your original you know, identity was. So for La 349 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: for instance, he never wanted to take the big shot, 350 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: and he's gotten to the point where he's gotten better 351 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: at it, you know, but it's still naturally upstairs. He's 352 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: a playmaker, so like he'll fight that for the rest 353 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: of his career. Meanwhile, all the great scorers of all 354 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: time will constantly fight the urge to shoot over double teams. 355 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: It's like a it's an identity thing. And Jaylen Brown 356 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum have gotten better as passers, but their 357 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: natural identity is to be a score. And so when 358 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: teams are sending like Miami, what they're doing essentially is 359 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: they're sending all sorts of defensive attention to those guys, 360 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: tons of pressure, tons of playing the passing lanes, tons 361 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: of you know, gambling and things like that. They're just 362 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: not disciplined enough to methodically break Miami down. Yeah, I 363 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: mean that's that's exactly that's you put it better than 364 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: I did. It's Curry can just agains these playoff games, 365 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: especially on the road. It's just a series of runs. 366 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: The home team makes a run and every time Dallas 367 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: did Curry comes down, gets past his guy, the Mavericks 368 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: are chasing him. Yeah, it's it's I really fundamentally like 369 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: the construct of Phoenix in Boston. It feels very old 370 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: school to me, the classic defensive big, the wing score, 371 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: the kind of the past first point guard. But I 372 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: do think something's missing if I want to go back 373 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: to Golden State before we get to a Laker topic. 374 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: And those of you who have not seen Jason, he's 375 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: growing in popularity very quick. On the volume of sports 376 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: YouTube channel had over one hundred thousand views on one 377 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: of his latest rants. Really knows the stuff. But I 378 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: made this argument the other day. When the Patriots had 379 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: their dynasty, they could have won all of them or 380 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: lost all of them. I mean they were all. I mean, 381 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: people lament the Mario Manningham catch if they're a Patriot 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: fan or David Tyree. Every single game other than maybe 383 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: the Rams was an absolute peril with four minutes to go. 384 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: The Warriors are different. The Warriors have had bad breaks. 385 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: They fell apart against Toronto. Literally all but one starter 386 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: was hurt. They were a better team easily, you know, 387 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: certainly Kyrie hit maybe the shot of the decade, but 388 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: there was a Draymond suspension. I think Andrew Bogett got hurt. 389 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. And I look at the Warriors 390 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: and I think I think they're a better dynasty than 391 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: we think. That's that's my takeaway. Now, I may be 392 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: a little hyperbolic because I love their style. Where do 393 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: we put them? How there there's two versions. Now we're 394 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: moving to a third version. Is it possible they're actually 395 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: in a sport that tends to popularize the fun and flash? 396 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: They don't get enough credit. No, they don't get nearly 397 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: enough credit that you know, it's it's I think what 398 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: you're seeing too, that people are glossing over here is 399 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: just how insanely talented the league is. And I think 400 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I think Lebron gets hurt in this regard as well. 401 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: People Stephen Lebron, the Warriors, and Lebron made this look 402 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: easy when it's not, when the league is as talented 403 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: as it is, Like, this is a very good Dallas 404 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: team that they are dismantling right now, you know, and 405 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: that Memphis team was, even without John rant An, entirely 406 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: different beasts that they had to deal with. But you know, 407 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: most importantly it speaks to the consistency you talked about luck. 408 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: One of the easiest ways to counter that is to 409 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: give yourself a bunch of shots at the table. You know, 410 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: in terms of winning a championship, a lot of things 411 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: do have to go your way. But if you put 412 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: yourself in position seven times, chances are your win three 413 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: or four of them. And that's the that's the advantage 414 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: of consistent success. Sometimes things break your way. It's like 415 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty titles for the Lakers. You know, a 416 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of things went their way. Steff got hurt, Kevin 417 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: Durant got hurt. You know, you end up playing a 418 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: Miami Heat team in the finals. That's Darry flawed. But again, 419 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: just you get enough cracks at the table that goes 420 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: your way. It's the counterbalance to Kyrie getting hurt and 421 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Love getting hurt in twenty fifteen. You got to 422 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: get to the table enough times so that some things 423 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: can go your way. When Wiggins came over, we all 424 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of thought he was a trade piece initially, and then, 425 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: as we often see in basketball, guys can really flourish 426 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: if the culture is right. Miami's got a really good culture. 427 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, if you play for the Celtics, now, you 428 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: play defense. You know, even if you're not a going 429 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: absolutely if you defend, and all of a sudden you 430 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: start watching Wiggins and he's still inconsistent maddeningly. So Steph 431 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: gets hurt. He doesn't step up, But I'm sitting there 432 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: watching him, and I'm like, man, he's a six seven 433 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: and a half twitchy. This culture works for him, and 434 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: there's there's there's a weird thing. So Draymond makes a 435 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: lot and Wiggins does and you can't break up Steph 436 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: and Clay because they're like, I mean, it's just you 437 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: can't do it. It's it's it's breaking up the band. 438 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: And then they have all these young pieces, kind of 439 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: hybrid pieces that can do multiple things. What are the 440 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Warriors gonna look like? Like if they win the championship 441 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: with this team? Who do you move? Like what I mean? 442 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: Or does Joe Lacob say, I'll pay the penalty? You know, 443 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna But it's interesting they draft 444 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Jason so well, they develop so well. Wiseman's amiss, it 445 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: feels like it. But outside of that, like who do 446 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: they move on this team? Well, Warriors people will tell 447 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: you that it's that Wiseman was a miss, but that's 448 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: that's a whole other story. You know, I don't know 449 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: who you move. That's a good question that the Jordan 450 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: Pool thing is the most interesting piece of all of 451 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: this because he ended up being a bridge piece for 452 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors. There. The Warriors fans were incensed last year 453 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: as it felt like they were trapped between two eras. 454 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: You had the Steph Clay Draymond Tree, then you had 455 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: that Wiseman coming and Kaminga has like all of these flashes. 456 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of Jeff Green, just 457 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: a like freak athleticism at the small forward position. But 458 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: you're like stuck between eras and you're not good enough 459 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: now to win, and who knows if these guys are 460 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: going to be as good as Stephan Clay were, right, 461 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and Jordan Pool blossoming into an all star prospect, that 462 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: that just builds a bridge so that you don't necessarily 463 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: have to cash in assets, because if you cash in assets, 464 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: you hope to bring back someone like Jordan Poole. So 465 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: like that's that's the beauty of him developing the way 466 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: that he did. And as far as Wiggins goes, he 467 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: was just miscast as this like lead swing man and 468 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: when that never was what his mentality was. He just 469 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: he never had the audacity. I always joke that, like 470 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: if you could take Dylan Brooks's consciousness and put it 471 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: into Andrew Wiggins, he'd be a superstar, right. He just 472 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: on one night he has the audacity and the other 473 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: night he doesn't. But in this system he's allowed to 474 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: just fall into the background, which is what he wants 475 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: to do. And in the background he can do the 476 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: little things which he's great at because he has tremendous 477 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: physical gifts, and he's not exactly the He's not exactly 478 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: the first offensive player to start playing with all the 479 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: attention that Steph gathers into instantly thrives, and I don't 480 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: think that's a coincidence. Yeah, let me give you one 481 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Laker question. When the Lakers brought in Westbrook. I'm not 482 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: a Westbrook fan, and I you know, my takeaway was 483 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: an obvious one. He can't play off the ball and 484 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: Lebron is a de facto point guard and should be. 485 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: It's it's like what Jannie or Luca has become, like 486 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: just that's where the offense gets. The genesis of the 487 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: offense for the Bucks is Yannis. I mean, I can 488 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: see the offense. It's the same thing every time down 489 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: the floor. Here comes Drew Holiday off the curl, and 490 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, this is what they do. So Lebron's 491 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: gonna have the ball that every offense that Lebron's on it, 492 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: they all looked the same. They're all generated from the 493 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: same space, and they should because he's a brilliant ball 494 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: handler and one of the great passers of all time. 495 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: So but I thought that. My takeaway was, Anthony Davis 496 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: has hurt a lot. Lebron gives you probably sixty five games. 497 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Now somebody's got to score twenty eight. They just don't 498 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: have enough scores. And then the toxicity was worse. He 499 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: was worse than I thought. And I'm like the least 500 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Westbrook centric guy in the league in the media. I 501 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: think you have to move him because it's not just 502 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: a fit. He lacks self awareness and you know, Jason, 503 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: you can be a lot of things, but if you 504 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: don't get it, and you don't get you don't get it, 505 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: you're not coachable. I don't I think you have to 506 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: move him. And I think they're leaking the story that 507 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: coaches are being asked how Westbrook would work because they 508 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: want teams to think they're going to give it another try. 509 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think they want to do. My take 510 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: on it, Where do you think the Lakers look like 511 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: Game one next year? They simply can't bring him back 512 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of how bad this year was, 513 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: which is an all time catastrophe. We're talking about a 514 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: team that literally was the second leading favorite in Vegas 515 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: going into the season. It's a catastrophe, A catastrophe of 516 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: all time NBA history proportions, and you need to somehow 517 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: cleanse that. And like, I don't care what Russ says, which, 518 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: by the way, his exit presser was one of the 519 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: most ridiculous things I've ever seen in terms of a 520 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: person deflecting any and all blame for anything that happened 521 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: to him during the season. But if you're gonna reset, 522 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: you can't bring that guy back into training camp. I 523 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: don't care if he makes apologies. I don't care if 524 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: he works hard this summer. There's no that would be 525 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: such a bad gamble on their part. And what's dangerous 526 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: here is the pride because the reality is is you 527 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: might have to attach a first round pick to Russ 528 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: to get rid of him, but the front office is 529 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: concerned to the optics of that, which is exactly because 530 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: we've seen reporting the Lakers don't want to attach a 531 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: first round pick to Russ. That's great, nobody wants him, 532 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: So how are you going to get rid of him 533 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: unless you're willing to attach an set to him? Right, 534 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: And at a certain point, that pride and just no 535 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: one in the entire hierarchy of the Lakers is willing 536 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: to just admit they made a mistake and move on. 537 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: And clinging to that has been the biggest problem. But 538 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: the only way I will feel even remotely optimistic about 539 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: this is if they can get him out. And the 540 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: advantage here is if you can flip him for we'll 541 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: call him overpaid role players, because you're going to get 542 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: bad contracts in return, because Russ is a bad contract. 543 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: But there are overpaid role players that are better basketball 544 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: players in a small role next to Lebron in ad 545 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: than they would be elsewhere. Andrew Wiggins is a fantastic 546 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: example of this max contract in Minnesota. You don't want 547 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: anything to do with it. Role player alongside really good 548 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: players all of a sudden, he's a functional piece. So 549 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: embracing that and understanding that, you know, flipping one bad 550 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: contract that can't play for you for two or three 551 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: bad contracts that can immediately play roles alongside Lebron James 552 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis, that's a lot better option for you. 553 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, I will I will feel horrible for 554 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Laker fans if they bring Russ back. That would be 555 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: such an unbelievable disaster. Yeah. Jason timp YouTube channel for 556 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: the Volume Sports his stuff is great. I'd retweet him 557 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: a lot right after games, really breaks it down. I've 558 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: told you this before. We love having you. We had 559 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: we were really missing an element at the Volume, somebody 560 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: that could go on immediately after games and break it 561 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: down with passion and expertise. We just love you so 562 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: much and welcome aboard. Keep kicking ash, You're doing great. 563 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm having the time of my life calling. I can't 564 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: thank you enough for the opportunity. All right, man, the Ume. 565 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out The draam On Green Show. 566 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: I brought Draymond Green into the Volume because one of 567 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: the more entertaining voices in sports. 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