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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Happy our listeners, you know we are back

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Speaker 1: now were refreshed. I hope everybody had a fun Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: whether you spend time with family or with friends. I

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Speaker 1: hope you were able to relax and not have too

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Speaker 1: much of a food coma. But I'm excited to be

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Speaker 1: back with Utasha because we have a big week. Hometowns

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Speaker 1: is so serious, so yeah, we have to get into everything.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to recap this one with you, I know.

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Speaker 1: But in addition to Hometowns, we also have two of

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Speaker 1: Michelle's best friends off the episode today, which I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited to pick their brains and just talk to them

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Speaker 1: like your girls know you best, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and they get the situation. They can give us the realty.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have Free and Serena on today's episode

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Speaker 1: as well, So I don't know, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fun one. It's pretty good. We love our girl gangs

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Speaker 1: here and can't wait to have them come on because,

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Speaker 1: like you said, they know Michelle so well, like they

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Speaker 1: knew her prior to her being the bad Selorette, so

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Speaker 1: I kind of knew. I'm sure how she prepped, how

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Speaker 1: she got mentally ready for this role. But before we

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Speaker 1: get into that, let's dive into hometowns. Because, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's a serious week. I would say, as you know,

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Speaker 1: being a past bachelor, I like, this is really where

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Speaker 1: it hits pun intended home where you are meeting families,

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Speaker 1: Like at this point, like the fund's kind of over

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Speaker 1: and serious to see like whose family you could actually

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Speaker 1: see yourself living with and being involved with for essentially

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. Yeah, it's a total reality check. Like it's

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Speaker 1: like this has been fun. I've been making out with

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Speaker 1: all y'all and this has been cute, like cool girl summer.

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Speaker 1: But then it's like, wait, but I'm taking y'all home,

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Speaker 1: and mom and dad are like the day and they

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Speaker 1: want to know, you know, like how does their son

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Speaker 1: stack up to the other guys, and you know, like

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Speaker 1: the one. They want to hear that he's the top contender. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but that's not always the case. You know, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to juggle for relationships. And then add on families, parents, siblings,

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Speaker 1: sometimes friends. It's a lot. So let's get into it

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Speaker 1: and we should just start from the beginning, because Brandon

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Speaker 1: started off Hometowns solid. I thought it was the perfect date,

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Speaker 1: Hometowns with because they've always had such a good relationship

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Speaker 1: right right, right, and his family just seems so solid.

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Speaker 1: Like she felt like right at the top of this

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Speaker 1: his parents were absolutely amazing. She quicked with his dad

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Speaker 1: right off the bat, and like you were saying, we

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Speaker 1: it all. But I just think there's something about Brandon

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Speaker 1: But I was like, come on, Joe, this is your

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Speaker 1: I can't say that. Whatever work on Minnows. Okay, you're Minnows.

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Speaker 1: to Bachelor Happy Hour. You two, Serena, we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: comfortable where she was at where she was going. I

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00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: could not agree more because I was so nervous going

429
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: into it that she was going to be struggling. I

430
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: don't know why we thought that, I guess because it's

431
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: also so different being on the other side of things,

432
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: which is where we enter we start. Also, I remember

433
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: us by hometowns on the contestant side, we were struggling,

434
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: struggle having our girl chats on the floor like it

435
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: was at that point just chaotic and a mess. So

436
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: being able to come in and just hearing her voice

437
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: and like reading her body language and her against sounding

438
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: as confident as she was, we were like, oh great,

439
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: like we have too good just hear as a support

440
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: system to just tell her that, you know, she keep

441
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: keep going. Just saying our basis and feeling that comfort

442
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: and having that vote of confidence. I think that's all

443
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: that she really needed. And she was in a perfect situation.

444
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: I felt that sounded like I want to know, Okay,

445
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: you two be on this with me, because I actually

446
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: had some girlfriends on my season come the same week

447
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: you two came. After all the hometown dates were done

448
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: before I went into the Rows ceremony, and I was

449
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: able to talk through the four guys left kind of

450
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: what their families were like. I'm sure Michelle got very

451
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: into detail that we weren't able to see on the screen.

452
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: So out of the four guys, whose team were you on?

453
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: I know that you each were leaning towards somebody you

454
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: have to spill the tea here. I thought that she

455
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: was very like head over heels or Nate and Joe.

456
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, I could see those two too, Joe. Okay, yeah,

457
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I remember thinking like Rodney sounded

458
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: like she spoke about Rodney really highly, but I wasn't

459
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: sure if like the chemistry was there, and I know

460
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, like he's an amazed, like we

461
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: have such a great, a strong friendship. And then yeah,

462
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: I remember thinking Joe, but I think for me it

463
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: was it was Brandon and Nate. So to me, because

464
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: I know she said like the first impression rose in

465
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: the first kiss went to Nate, and she is like

466
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: a very pragmatic but she's also like a very instinctual person,

467
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: and I just felt like if that was like her

468
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: first gut instinct, like that was going to be really

469
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: powerful for her. Yeah. Yeah, and maybe it's just me.

470
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: There's Joe is so hard to read and really get

471
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: a sense of that, and I maybe she felt that

472
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 1: at times too, But yeah, it's interesting because we can

473
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: all see she's had overheels for day. She's very to Nate,

474
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: there's no disagreeing about that. But then Brandon just has

475
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: like this slow burn where I feel like they have

476
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: all like all these different categories that you would need

477
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: to make a relationship work. Add on top of the

478
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: fact that, like his family was incredible, she became BF

479
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: with his dad. Like it just h But I'm actually

480
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: very glad that you two were there to kind of

481
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: help her through talk through things. Because it's one thing

482
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: to do what you know with the producers when you're

483
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: on the show, but there's something different about being with

484
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: girlfriends and just being able to like totally say any

485
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: and everything, let your guard down, like she can rely

486
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: on you. I think that was so important for her.

487
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: Did you guys sneak her anything when you were there? Like, no,

488
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: I have somebody anything? What little missus things? Did you guys?

489
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Do I need to know? We did sneak her a

490
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: little a little note from some of the other girls

491
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: from our season. I thought it was from like a

492
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: guy or kind of like bummed. No, I understand kind

493
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: of And we didn't like think of anything crazier though,

494
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: I know, well, yeah, anything past we had like a

495
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: little note from well, yeah, I don't know. I think

496
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: our thing was more like we had the little gift

497
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: from from Ryan from our season, who is also really

498
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: close to Michelle, so she hadn't written a letter for

499
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: her because um, but I think our thing was like

500
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna go and talk to her, and I just

501
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna like let us bring her

502
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: anything or give her anything. Well, we also just tried

503
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: to extend the time for as long as just selfishly

504
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: wanted to stay there with her all day, as you should.

505
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: You should wait, I have one more question about the guys. Okay,

506
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure Michelle told you that because Joe Bean from

507
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: Minnesota that they had, you know, previously conversed through d

508
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: MS or text whatever it was. Thoughts when she told

509
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: you that he ghosted her? Are you freaking gos? I

510
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: totally do you remember this? She remembered this so clearly.

511
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: What did she What did she say? Though I can't remember.

512
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: She was like she said, she was like talking about

513
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: each of the guys. She gave us like a breakdown

514
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: of each of the guys, and she was like, so

515
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Joe is from Minnesota, like I actually said into his

516
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: DMS a couple of years ago, and we're like, that's

517
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: great love that says like ghost still here like him

518
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: in what the hell? Right? Except I was swooned by

519
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: him whenever she said he looked like doctor Avery, because

520
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: she also gave us three like that kid, and I

521
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like I want it like

522
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I want Well, then we obviously looked him up after

523
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: she said that, and he totally looks like jaft Avery,

524
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: like he was eyes. Yeah. Yeah, she didn't do a

525
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: bad job. Okay, she has a really wonderful looking tall

526
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: for Okay, she did a great job. You guys are

527
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: such good friends. I would have been such an asshole

528
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: if that was one of my best friends. I would

529
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: have been like, what the fuck? Is he still doing here?

530
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: It's only because you're the best about his ass, Like

531
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm just when it comes to my friends that I'm

532
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: like so protective over I just turned into such like

533
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: a mom of bear that I would have they probably

534
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: would have never been able to air anything I would

535
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: have said to a friend because it would have been

536
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: just cursing the whole time. But she did. She did

537
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: say he redeemed himself. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I will

538
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: say I will say slow, it's slow but sure for me.

539
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: But jury's still out for this one. On Joe, I

540
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: will say that, Wait, did you actually get the sense

541
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: that she like may have been like starting to fall

542
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: in love? Like did you actually get the feeling that

543
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: she was like head over the heels like I'm I

544
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: was working definitely, yeah, and love that whenever all of

545
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: my worries just like flew out the window because I

546
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: was like, I think I know who it's gonna be

547
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: in the end of this, and I was just I

548
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: think that's all that we wanted going in as like

549
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: her two friends and sounding boards, is that we could

550
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: feel confident that she would walk away happy and in love. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

551
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: she definitely seemed like so glowy and calm, and I remember,

552
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I remember once I got the vibe that like this

553
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: was gonna work for her, I was like, so, what

554
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: engagement ranked you want? She probably asked to see yours

555
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: to try it on. Wait, because she didn't know that

556
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: you were engaged at this point, right or she did.

557
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I told her before she left. Um

558
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: and it actually worked out really nicely because I hadn't

559
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: told three either, so I told both of them in

560
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: her reaction. It was really nice. It was really wonderful. Yeah,

561
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: and she did a really freaking good job at hiding

562
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: it though, especially because knowing Serena, I was like, oh, yeah,

563
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: like you know, it's trying to watch she's not. Okay.

564
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: It was very believable that I didn't get a change anyone.

565
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: People are like, yeah, obviously, you just like I didn't.

566
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Should like think twice about it, you know it ask

567
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: me too, I think when I facetimed you guys, he

568
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: was like no, And then it was so nice. I

569
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: was glad I did, because having that moment in person

570
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: with them was just so much better, more meaningful. Yeah, okay,

571
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this too. Sorry, I'm totally

572
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: going off scripture because I just have so many questions. Um.

573
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: One thing I remember before Michelle started her season was

574
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: that she was like, I'm not going to break down.

575
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going to cry, you know, like I'm not

576
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: like overly emotional. And I was like, it's going to

577
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: break you at some point. I gave it two weeks.

578
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: But prior to her leaving, was there any conversation or

579
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: anything that she was adamant like would or would not happen? Like,

580
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: was she like I'll probably fall in love, but I

581
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: won't getting engaged or I first engaged, anything like that

582
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: that she actually said that. I remember her stressing a

583
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: lot before leaving because I feel like we had so

584
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: many conversations and it's always puts you in a tough position.

585
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: I feel like stepping into that role whenever you know

586
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: you weren't it didn't work out for you the first time.

587
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: And so she was very much like a head steadfast

588
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: in her decision of if this does not work out,

589
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: how I intend for it too, Like I won't get

590
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: engaged and that's something that everyone's going to have to accept. Yeah,

591
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: but I remember her saying that before we left, and

592
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that came from the hurt

593
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: from Matt season of like thinking because like it's such

594
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking feeling. I think everyone's been there at least

595
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: once in the night where you think you found the

596
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: person you're going to spend the rest of your life

597
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: with and then realizing that you were wrong or like

598
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: that the other person didn't feel the same way. So

599
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: like that's a like intense pain that I can imagine

600
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: was kind of affecting going into this season that like, Okay, well,

601
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put myself in the position to

602
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: like think this is the one and I'm going to

603
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: spend the rest of my life with them if like

604
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not certain that like someone else is going to

605
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: reciprocate that. So like it's really nice to see the

606
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: reassurance that the men are giving her. I think that

607
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: really helped her. And then I know, like going into Paris,

608
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I had a similar feeling of like, well, I don't know,

609
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: we'll see if this works, We'll see if like I

610
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: can't even fall in love in this process, And like

611
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: she didn't know I was engaged at the time, but

612
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I did say to her, like, look, you might I

613
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: get you feel this way, but like go in open

614
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: because you just never know. Like we like, she's very logical,

615
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: very pragmatic, but I was like, you know, lean into

616
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: your feelings. It's not natural always, but it will help.

617
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: And I really see her doing that. Yeah, is incredible. Yeah.

618
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Do you think because knowing how Matt season ended in

619
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: the way that it did, where I mean she was

620
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: so caught off guard, so hurt with the way he

621
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: ended things, do you think that has helped her form

622
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: and correct conversations with these men because I can imagine

623
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to hurt any one of these guys

624
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: in the way that she was totally like, I think

625
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: that Michelle, she's also very I think this is kind

626
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: of comes from her days as a D one athlete,

627
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: but she's just very like she has she's very goal oriented,

628
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Like at the end of everything that she starts, there

629
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: is a goal, and she's going to do whatever it

630
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: takes and make sure to like cross all her teas

631
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: and all her eyes to get to that goal. And

632
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: I think that that's exactly what we're saying. She took

633
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot of lessons and learnings away from the last

634
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: time and is using all of that, Like all of

635
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: those learnings into like bringing that into this experience this

636
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: time around. It's like so incredibly clear to me. Yeah,

637
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: yeah acous, they say, I feel like we can we

638
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: we know Michelle's a teacher. She has all these amazing skills,

639
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: like she can definitely see through all like the vs

640
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: that the guys are giving. But also she's so logical

641
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: and so level having becomes the drama and just like

642
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: really analyzing what's going on and saying true to herself.

643
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Is there something about Michelle that we do not know

644
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: that you know, people should know that you guys know

645
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: as being her friend that like I don't know, maybe

646
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: she's extremely emotional when she's like at home and thinks

647
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: that really affect her or just something that like as

648
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: viewers don't know about Michelle or like having gotten pervy

649
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: to see that also adds to her. I think we're

650
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: all the same in this way, like me if the rena,

651
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: but like you don't really get to see Michelle's goofy

652
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: side all the time, Like I think a couple of

653
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: the guys bring that out in her from time to time.

654
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: But Michelle is very like sassy, witty and also funny

655
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: as fuck. So I feel like you kind of like

656
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: you said, like you get that teacher side of her,

657
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: the serious side, the pragmatic and the logical side. But

658
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: other than that, I think there's just such like a funny, hilarious,

659
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: like witty side to her that is not entirely it's

660
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to see because you know he means business

661
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Free, it's so funny you said that

662
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: because I literally just said that to my mom last night,

663
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: like that exact thing. My mom was like, I love

664
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: watching Michelle. I was like, the only thing is I

665
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: feel like she has such a playful side that it's

666
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: just hard because you see her as the lead and

667
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: like the main thing shown are like the intense emotions

668
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: across the boards, like the really intense love stories, like

669
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: the heartbreaks, the dramas, right, so there's not always time

670
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: for those like playful, goofy moments. But yeah, she has

671
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: a great sense of humor. We need like a spinoff

672
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: show of like all of us. Yeah yeah, wow, that's

673
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: like us just sitting in the living room. I swear

674
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: there's like this Bachelor edit where and the bachelors get

675
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: it too, because playing off of what you're saints for

676
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: in it, there's so much like heartbreak, drama, the real deep,

677
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: raw like hardcore emotions that they don't have time to

678
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: show anyone's goofy playful side. I mean, like thank goodness

679
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: for the bloopers at the end of those are only

680
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, two minutes, which sucks. So it's always good

681
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: to have people who know the lead on and can

682
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: really attest to like how goofy or silly they are,

683
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I think, you know, each season

684
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: we're all robbed of that as viewers. Luckily we know

685
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Michelle well enough to know that she she is like that,

686
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: but hopefully we'll see some good stuff with the bloopers

687
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: overall watching michelle journey up to this point, What have

688
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: been some of your favorite moments, Your standout moments like

689
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: give us give us each your top one or two

690
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: arena you go first. I'm kind of than the spottery, um,

691
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of like comment or something like something

692
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh my god, it's so Michelle. Um,

693
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: oh my gosh her she does this like no, like

694
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: no squinch, yes, like yeah, I love seeing her do

695
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: that because it's one of those like quirks and mannerisms.

696
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: But I feel like you've almost like kind of cracked her,

697
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Like you've made her like feel very like happy inside.

698
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: So that's like I actually laugh whenever I see her

699
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, that's a good one. I feel like

700
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: this is only coming to mind because it's like the

701
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: most recent, Like I'm sure if I went back and

702
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: like thought through each episode, there would be other ones.

703
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: But I loved her poem, I'll say that. Actually I

704
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: loved her mom I thought it was really beautiful. Um.

705
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: And I really liked the moment with her and Brandon

706
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: on the ice cream portion of their date. Um, it

707
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: just where the ice cream like that's wild. Um. But

708
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I just the way she was talking. I could just

709
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: tell like she was so like comfortable and in her

710
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: elmet and like really in the moment like knowing her

711
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: um and like just her sharing like that piece of

712
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota with Brandon. I was just like, this is a

713
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: really cute moment. I just really see Michelle feeling like

714
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: so just at home and told herself in that So

715
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: that was really Oh. I have a question now that

716
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys have watched so many episodes, you guys have

717
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: been seeing, like you know, even the moments that Michelle

718
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: hasn't seen because she's seeing them until she's watching all

719
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: of this back, right, Who are you dying to see

720
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: in the hot seat at mental? Because I know I

721
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: had some conversations that I was waiting to see happen

722
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: in that hot seat, Um, and they definitely do happen.

723
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: So oh one guy? Is that the moments Jamie Jane.

724
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see some of the comments he

725
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: made just like crawled under my skin, like I wish

726
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: I was there so I could just go off on him.

727
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: But m hmmm, I hear that for another time. Well

728
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: you will, you will see more of him, all right. Well,

729
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I want to get into a little bit more of

730
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: you too, because we love you, we miss you. Um, Serena,

731
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: let's start with you. How I know you've touched space?

732
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: A little bit about what you guys did for the holidays,

733
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: um at the top of the episode. But how have

734
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: you and Joe and how is the long distance dating going?

735
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: Just fill us in about you too a little bit.

736
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Joe and I are good. We're really good. Um, everything's

737
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: been Yeah, it's cheesy about just getting better every single day,

738
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: more in love every single day. We are still figuring out,

739
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: just like the details of our future together while also

740
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: trying to like enjoy the present and live in the

741
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: moment because you know, being in Canada and the US,

742
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of decisions and a lot of logistics involved,

743
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: so that can become tricky and complicated. But we're taking

744
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: we're taking the steps, and yeah, we're just trying to

745
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: spend as much timepy other as possible because like right

746
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: now I'm here and he's in Chicago. Um, but like

747
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: we're trying to integrate it to a point where like

748
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: we're living life. Like I just feel like long distance

749
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: like where you could probably relate to this where sometimes

750
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: it feels like you're living individual lives and then you

751
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: come together and you like spend time together, and then

752
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you go back to your individual lives. So I feel

753
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: like we're just trying to get to a point where

754
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: it feels like we're doing life together a majority of

755
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: the time. But yeah, life's good and we're excited for

756
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: the holidays. Got People's choice coming up for so say,

757
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: yeah we are going actually so next week to La

758
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: and Brie. How is life with you? I know you

759
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: mentioned you have the boyfriend, so how is that long

760
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: distance going? My boyfriend and I were doing really, really well.

761
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: We are doing long distance, and truthfully, it is such

762
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: a pain, but it works because we both have such

763
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: busy schedules. You know, whenever I'm in New York and

764
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: whenever he's in San Francisco. So the distance, I feel like,

765
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: only makes the heart grow fonder. It doesn't ever work together.

766
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: It's like rainbows and butterflies and it's all great. So

767
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: it's like we get to see each other in doosis.

768
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I think we go about like every two weeks, and

769
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: then the time that we do get to spend each other,

770
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: it's just that much more special. That's good. And the

771
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: families like each other. Our families haven't met, but he

772
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: was just spending Thanksgiving with my family and it wasn't

773
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: the first time, so I felt like this time, like

774
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: it almost felt too comfortable, like I forgot that he

775
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: was still around. Like he was like, you know, like

776
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: I still have to like impress your family, right, that's

777
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: a good problem. It's a good thing because I want

778
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: you in my mind. I was like, okay, you know,

779
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: like you're not at work, like you don't have to

780
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, like talk a certain way or actor start

781
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: nailing as my family. You can like relax because this

782
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: is the way I feel most comfortable and most at home,

783
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: and like no one's listening or like to what I'm saying.

784
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: So to me, it's just like I like I felt

785
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: that he was finally like welcomed in, and it was

786
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: such a good feeling. That's so nice. Want to impress

787
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: your family, you know, like Oachie, it was such an overachiever.

788
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I always want to impress your family

789
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: and still want to impress you. It's exactly exactly, Serena.

790
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: That's actually a good question for you because I remember

791
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: the last time we talked to you, you and Joe.

792
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, we're just freshly announced as an engaged couple,

793
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: like you're you were still trying to navigate how your

794
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: family would receive Joe. So how has that been with

795
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: your parents and Joe? It's actually been really good. It

796
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: was definitely just such a shock for them at first.

797
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine, like I'm the oldest daughter too,

798
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: so like I'm the first one to get engaged, like

799
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: have this serious relationship. And I basically left and I

800
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: came back three weeks later, a month or however long

801
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: it was, and was like, hey, this is my fiance

802
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: that we've never met, that's from Chicago. He does not

803
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: live in our country. So it was like a really

804
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: big shock and definitely like an adjustment for them to

805
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: wrap their head around. And I think meeting him helped,

806
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: But like the biggest turnaround was like we actually watched

807
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: the engagement with them, and my mom like got balloons

808
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: and like a cake and champagne and like a really

809
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: special moment. So it was like we got to kind

810
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: of share the engagement with them also in that moment um.

811
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: And since then it's been so good, Like they've really

812
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: gotten to know him. I've gotten to know his family,

813
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: who are absolutely lovely. My dad and him like text,

814
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: my mom and his mom follow each other on Instagram,

815
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: so like it's been good good. I love that. It's

816
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: so fun. So do either you have big plans for

817
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: the holidays. I'll be meeting my boyfriend's parents for the

818
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: first time. We decided to switch off, so he spent

819
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with my family in Texas and I'm gonna go

820
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: spend Christmas with his family in Maryland. Poor back. Let

821
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: us know how that goes. It's making the families. I'm

822
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: be so excited. I love hearing definitely do my best interactions.

823
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you will. They will love you. Three Hometown's

824
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: coming up, I literally coming up. I think I'm so

825
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: nervous because he also, like I was just saying, he's

826
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: an overchiever, but like, not only is he an overchiever,

827
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: his entire family is an overchiever. So they're gonna be

828
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna have very high expectations. As what I've what

829
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: I've gathered, well, I can't imagine them not loving you

830
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: at all. I think you will be just fine, just fine.

831
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: And if you need any tips trick, just go watch

832
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: the episode again. For Michelle, she did a great job exactly. Um, okay,

833
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: where are you two going to be watching the finale?

834
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I haven't even thought about that. I

835
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: wish we could watch it with Michelle, I know, but

836
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: soon enough, like after that, that's like the fun begins.

837
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: You guys will be well, I at least I hope

838
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: the fund begins. I mean, do you guys think that

839
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Michelle gets engaged. I think that she gets engaged. Yeah,

840
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I like all four men. I think she

841
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: has four strong connections. So if she doesn't get engaged,

842
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: I'll be really surprised, but she seems happy, so that's

843
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: the most important thing. Yeah, if there is any advice

844
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: that you could give for I'm assuming she picks one

845
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: guy at the end of this. I'm not totally sure,

846
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: but I mean, she could put the wool eyes and

847
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: just be like I was taking y'all home, Okay, But

848
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: if she does choose just one man, what is one

849
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: bit of advice you would both give him. I think

850
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: I think, um, like knowing Michelle and then also you know,

851
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: watching her be so vulnerable this season, She's just talked

852
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: a lot about being seen and I think just in

853
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: any relationship, but like specific to Michelle, because she's expressed

854
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, her past and feeling like she was unseen.

855
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: Just appreciating her, Like I think the small things are

856
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: important in a relationship, and feeling appreciated in those moments

857
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: and seen and value for like exactly who you are

858
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: is such a big thing. And I think that Michelle

859
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: has so much to offer, and she takes on so

860
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: much and she gives so much, Like she is truly

861
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: such a giver to the people in her life and

862
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: what she's passionate about. So like taking those moments to

863
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: appreciate her and take care of her when she's like

864
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: giving out so much to others and like fill up

865
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: her energy bank is important. That's a really good one

866
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: who whatever whoever it is, and I hope they listen.

867
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: I would say that Michelle also she takes on so much.

868
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Like I truthfully cannot wrap my head around how she's

869
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: juggling being a bachelorette of like a huge TV show

870
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: and also being a wonderful, a wonderful, amazing teacher full time.

871
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: She's always busy and she's constantly having to prioritize her schedule,

872
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: and so I think it's just knowing how to support her,

873
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: and you know, not having someone who's like extremely needy

874
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: and not saying that you know they can't like reach

875
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: out to her. But like Michelle is just one of

876
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: those people where you have to trust that she is

877
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: doing what's best for her. And she's also like like

878
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: valuing her alone time and the time that she does

879
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: have because even like right now, I know she can't

880
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: text step back every single time that we reach out

881
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: to her. But it's just kind of like sitting back

882
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: and knowing that she is making the best decision for

883
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: herself and just being there support her whenever she comes

884
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: to you and needs you. Yeah, yeah, those are both great.

885
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Actually, yes, we hope, we hope that lucky

886
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: man is listening in in a taking note of all

887
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: this place, and who knows her better than you two,

888
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: and you know some of her family, So I think

889
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: that's those are great, great bits of wisdom to impart

890
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: on these men um before we let you two go.

891
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: I always say this each every week. We love our

892
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: games here in Bachelor half Hour, so we couldn't let

893
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: you two go without indulging in a little game time here, Tasia.

894
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to explain it? Of course, we're going

895
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: to play a little game called Girls Knights of Relatives.

896
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: But we're gonna give you most likely to and you'll

897
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: finish a sentence with either Michelle, Serena or Braid. Okay,

898
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: you could obviously say yourself. So I really want to

899
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: get to know y'all a little better. So it's gonna

900
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: be rapid fire. We don't have too much time to think,

901
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: So are you ready? Yay okay. Most likely to change

902
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: their outfits three times before leaving Bree Bree Okay. Most

903
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: likely most likely to suggest you stay in and drink wine. Michelle.

904
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Michelle, but yeah, no, you're right, Michelle.

905
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer to this. Most likely

906
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: to wear the highest heels Na, Probably because well, I

907
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: would say Michelle, but Michelle's tall. I kind of counted

908
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: her out. Okay, I guess, Okay, I like I hate heels. Yes, yes,

909
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: I do wear the highest heels, ok Michelle. And Michelle

910
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: has been forced to wear them every day, so she's

911
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: probably not going to choose them anymore. I'm also like

912
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: such a shoe girl, so that's probably well. And Joe's

913
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: so tall, it's like, you know, I got a lot

914
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: of growth space. Exactly utilize it. Okay. Who is most

915
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: likely to make new friends at the bar Sorina. Maybe Me? Yeah,

916
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: maybe me. I love that I'm a chatty drunk. That's

917
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: a good thing. Most likely to start a dance party

918
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: Me are you gonna say you? Or Michelle? Oh yeah,

919
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: Michelle too, Michelle. Michelle likes a good dance party, like

920
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: I like a stepping giggle kind of girl. I like,

921
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, you got me? Like, yeah, I'm not

922
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: even trying to buy that. Who is most likely to

923
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: suggest ordering a bottle instead of a glass. Yes, but

924
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: definitely Serena. Although that's why I go too. That's why

925
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I go too. Should we just get a bottle? I

926
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like Shorina and I bonded over that.

927
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: In the most Susan and I would be like, we're

928
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: not gonna drink tonight, and then like eight o'clock all

929
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: around she'd be like, we just gash, where's the bottle? No,

930
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: I get it, especially when you're filming, the days are

931
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: so long, there's so much drama, so much cattiness that

932
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: like by the end of the night, you're like, okay,

933
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: I need a little like pick me up right now,

934
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: something you like take the edge off, like our girls moment,

935
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: like we got a glass of red and well with

936
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: that glass of read. It was most likely to sing karaoke. Wow,

937
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: not karaoke. People got it? We need to go I

938
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: know that's true. We we all got to get together

939
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: and do a little karaoke night with that bottle. Oh yeah,

940
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: let's do it. Is most likely to post the first

941
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: Instagram pick like if you guys are, if the three

942
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: of you are, oh, you're drinking, you you're singing your karaoke,

943
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: You're having a good time. Who's gonna put it on

944
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: so media first? Not Michelle, so probably Brie. Yeah, I'm

945
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: gonna agree to free Okay, that's good. Most likely to

946
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: make toast no, oh go eat okay, I'm honestly starved.

947
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: So but also who could make me tought? That's all

948
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I want? Who could make us the best brit Oh?

949
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: I Michelle in terms of who makes He's gonna make

950
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: the toast? Definitely Michelle. Okay, she makes. We're trying to

951
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: like hide from making the toast. I'm paradise. Same thanks, um,

952
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: I what was I just gonna say something? Well, I

953
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: was gonna say Michelle's no pro making the toast, So

954
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: I hope she's the goat girl. Who's most likely to

955
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: go to bed first? Not me, not Bree Michelle. That's

956
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: the same Michelle. Probably right strict schedule. Whenever we were

957
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: on FaceTime, Michelle's like, I gotta be in bed by time,

958
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: so I only it's always a school night, so like

959
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: she has to go to bed like yeah, I mean

960
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: between teaching a full fifth grade class and uh leading

961
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: uh one of the most popular reality TV shows. I

962
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: get it. She needs her sleep. It's a busy girl.

963
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: You too. It has been such an absolute blast having

964
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: you both on. I okay, when you come out to

965
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: La Serena, let me know, maybe Bree you can make it.

966
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: We'll have a girl's night. I'll have the bottles ready.

967
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: It'll just be a fun night. But it was so

968
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: good to meet you brief. Thank you both for joining us.

969
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely happy holidays, So happy for both of you. Have

970
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: the best time this next few weeks. And oh my gosh,

971
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see you next year. Yeah, yeah, that's

972
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: crazy to say. That's like my first time. I usually

973
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: hate when people say that, but like, yeah, that's crazy. Well,

974
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: Serena in enjoy all of the traveling with Joe and Bree,

975
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: enjoy meeting the family for the first time. I know,

976
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: thank you back so much. Have the beast holiday of course,

977
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: to take care of you to I just love girl time.

978
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: If we could do this, I mean we you and

979
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: I obviously do this every week, but it just when

980
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: there's more women, it just feels like it's like a

981
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: slumber party. Key key, Thank you so much those girls

982
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: for coming on the show today. It was so yes,

983
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to Serena and Bree. That was

984
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: an absolute blast, and then even bigger thank you to

985
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. Thank you for tuning in

986
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: each and every week. And before I let y'all go,

987
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: we are actually casting for both The Bachelor and The Bachelortte,

988
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: so please make sure to head to Bachelor Nation dot

989
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990
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: somebody else, because the more the merrier. But also do

991
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,000
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992
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,640
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993
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,520
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996
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