Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague
Speaker 1: west Hodku. It's we are back from the NFL scouting
Speaker 1: combine and back in our studios here at lambeau Field West.
Speaker 1: It was a long week, but a fun week in Indie.
Speaker 1: It sure was, Mike. Unfortunately for you and me. We
Speaker 1: beat the storm back up to Green Day we did
Speaker 1: driving up to to get back in our studio. It's
Speaker 1: good to be home. Yeah, it is good to be home.
Speaker 1: But I know Packers fans between now and the draft,
Speaker 1: and not that they haven't been talking about it since
Speaker 1: the end of the season. There's two positions in this draft.
Speaker 1: The Packers fans are focused on. It's pass rushers and cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: They want to know who's out there. Who do the
Speaker 1: Packers have their eye on? Who might be there at
Speaker 1: number fourteen? If the Packers are going to use that
Speaker 1: opportunity to improve on defense, Let's start with the pass
Speaker 1: rushers and a couple of guys I know that have
Speaker 1: been attached to the Packers in various mock drafts and
Speaker 1: things like that. And those mock drafts are going to
Speaker 1: change here and there now now that the combine is finished.
Speaker 1: As we lead up to the draft, but Marcus Davenport
Speaker 1: from Texas San Antonio and Harold Landry from Boston College
Speaker 1: a couple of guys projected as first rounders, maybe not
Speaker 1: necessarily top ten picks, but at the same time, Marcus
Speaker 1: Davenport when he ran a sub four six forty then
Speaker 1: at the combine, so you start to wonder, now if
Speaker 1: this guy from Texas San Antonio, who is kind of
Speaker 1: the consensus mock draft selection for the Packers at number fourteen,
Speaker 1: you wonder if he's even gonna last that long? You do?
Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you run a sub four
Speaker 1: six is a pass rusher, it's gonna get you noticed.
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I think it was Clay was
Speaker 1: four six seven, but it was also his initial splits
Speaker 1: were phenomenal, which is eventually what got it to be
Speaker 1: a first round pick. The broad jump is exactly where
Speaker 1: you wanted to be for Davenport. Certainly, the size has
Speaker 1: all the intangibles you look for as an elephant type end.
Speaker 1: The thing that's and I wrote about this an insider inbox.
Speaker 1: When we got back to Green Bay. The thing that
Speaker 1: intrigues me the most is and I'm not I'm no
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock. I'm not saying that I am. But I
Speaker 1: did find it interesting him talking about really what he
Speaker 1: sees a sort of a lack of depth in this
Speaker 1: draft class when it comes to edge rusher. That might
Speaker 1: be the case, but there are a lot of intriguing
Speaker 1: options for the Packers, whether it's Davenport, whether it is Landry.
Speaker 1: If you go maybe a little bit farther back in
Speaker 1: the first round into the second round, I think there's
Speaker 1: some interesting guys there. Could Art and Key move up.
Speaker 1: He certainly has the frame that you look for, maybe
Speaker 1: to put on some weight. Sam Hubbard isn't in that conversation.
Speaker 1: Art and Key from l s U, Sam Hubbard from
Speaker 1: Ohio sty Ohio State. Just some guys that have phenomenal length.
Speaker 1: And I just remember a year ago, or actually known
Speaker 1: two years ago, when we were talking about the Packers
Speaker 1: drafting Kyler Facral six five. It was just amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: this particular draft, including Davenport, there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: in that four to six six range, and I think
Speaker 1: if you're an edge rushing coach, really are going to
Speaker 1: make you want to take a long, hard look at
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, I think that's the one thing that
Speaker 1: stands out to me about this pass rush draft class
Speaker 1: is is the size and the length of these guys.
Speaker 1: They're all six five six six, it seems like, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there may not be a whole lot of depth to
Speaker 1: where you might not be able to find a Vince
Speaker 1: Biegel at the top of the fourth round in this draft.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get one of these pass rushers, you
Speaker 1: you might have to you might have to grab him early.
Speaker 1: But you look at Davenport, really the question people have
Speaker 1: about him that the knock against him, so to speak,
Speaker 1: is the Texas San Antonio the level of competition that
Speaker 1: he played in college. Now he went down to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and went up against all the top prospects
Speaker 1: from all the major conferences there and held his own.
Speaker 1: It hasn't heard his draft stock. He's still being projected
Speaker 1: as a first rounder. So he's answered some of those questions.
Speaker 1: You look at a guy like Landry from Boston College
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. This guy had sixteen and a half
Speaker 1: sacks west and then he was headed for probably another
Speaker 1: double bull digit sacks season he believes he definitely would
Speaker 1: have had double digits, but a knee injury middle of
Speaker 1: the season. He tried to play through it for a
Speaker 1: couple of games, couldn't get a whole lot done, just
Speaker 1: made it worse and they and they had to shut
Speaker 1: him down. Um no, I'm sorry. Maybe it was an
Speaker 1: ankle injury. I believe it was. Yeah, yeah, lower body,
Speaker 1: but yes, uh so he uh but but this is
Speaker 1: a guy with with a ton of confidence. He's a
Speaker 1: you know, he's what they call a dip and rip
Speaker 1: type of pass rusher. He's got speed off the edge.
Speaker 1: He likes to go low around the corner and get
Speaker 1: around those offensive tackles. I think the question with him
Speaker 1: is can you do more than that? Is he? Or
Speaker 1: is he's you know, the one trick pony so to speak,
Speaker 1: which you know, a guy like Kabir Baja Biamila, he
Speaker 1: made a heck of a career out of being basically
Speaker 1: a speed rusher off the edge, and he got a
Speaker 1: lot of sacks. But in this day and age in
Speaker 1: the NFL, scouts are gonna be you know, and Bla
Speaker 1: was a fifth round draft pick. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: a first round pick here, So you wonder. You wonder
Speaker 1: with Landry, he says. You know, as he gets still
Speaker 1: gets bigger and stronger, he feels he can develop more
Speaker 1: strength moves with his pass rush. Right now, he's just
Speaker 1: a speed guy, and it's about the scouts projecting maybe
Speaker 1: what they see a bigger repertoire that he might be
Speaker 1: able to develop down the road. Yeah. And one of
Speaker 1: the things, mich where I mentioned some of these guys
Speaker 1: with a little bit more length, including Davenport, is probably
Speaker 1: the post child for this sometimes can play with that
Speaker 1: elevated pad level have a hard time dipping and ripping,
Speaker 1: to use that phrase. Lander is probably on the other
Speaker 1: side of that, a little bit more traditional. At six
Speaker 1: ft three around two and fifty pounds, I think that
Speaker 1: puts him more in that, you know, Nick Perry, Clay
Speaker 1: Matthews traditional kind of size for that position. But as
Speaker 1: Larry mccarren pointed out on one of the shows we
Speaker 1: did over the weekend, the question is how how that's
Speaker 1: going to translate against the David baktrs, against these top
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. Because I always go back to this,
Speaker 1: and I don't try to make you know, Darrell Worthy,
Speaker 1: you know, a step child for this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, he had that initial burst. He was
Speaker 1: able to read the snap, the snaps and the cadences
Speaker 1: in the NFL or in college at Michigan State, and
Speaker 1: it just didn't translate to the pros Landry that type
Speaker 1: of rushing style. How is that going to be? Uh?
Speaker 1: In terms of how is he going to adapt that
Speaker 1: to the next level. A lot of ability and I
Speaker 1: think again, another guy that tested through the roof throughout
Speaker 1: this combine is going to be something that that teams
Speaker 1: are really gonna have to think about and ponder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you mentioned Larry McCarron in those shows he did
Speaker 1: with us before we go to break here, I want
Speaker 1: to be able to say thanks to Larry for those
Speaker 1: those shows in India. I hope the fans enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: We certainly enjoy his u his storytelling him whatnot. It
Speaker 1: was great to have him on the set for a
Speaker 1: few days. There's only one Larry McCarron. It's it honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like having you know, a Hall of Famer walked
Speaker 1: back into the studio for you, uh and come up.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a great, great time with him
Speaker 1: last week that was great. Well, we've got more from
Speaker 1: our trip to the combine. Back with that on Packers
Speaker 1: Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike
Speaker 1: Spofford in this chair, Wes Hodko, it's in that one
Speaker 1: and west. Moving on to the cornerbacks, which is the
Speaker 1: other big position on defense that Packers fans have their
Speaker 1: eye on, wondering who might be there at number fourteen,
Speaker 1: who to the Packers maybe have some interest in. Two
Speaker 1: guys that I wrote about on our website after they
Speaker 1: met with the media as the scouting combine was the
Speaker 1: media portion of the scouting combine was wrapping up over
Speaker 1: the weekend. Two guys from the Big Ten I was
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson and Ohio State's Denzel Ward, both of them
Speaker 1: pretty consensus first round picks. But the interesting thing about
Speaker 1: it is these are two guys very different types of cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson kind of a zone corner ball hawk type
Speaker 1: of guy. Eight interceptions this past season, five of them
Speaker 1: against the two teams that played for the Big Ten
Speaker 1: championship in Ohio State in Wisconsin. Those were two huge
Speaker 1: games that he had, but questions about his overall experience
Speaker 1: because he was only a starter at Iowa for one year,
Speaker 1: and then also questions about his speed because he's not
Speaker 1: a man to man cornerback. He he was mostly a
Speaker 1: zone corner. Then you have a ward from Ohio State,
Speaker 1: no questions about his speed at all. He's uh, he's
Speaker 1: a burner, there's no doubt about that. But he's a
Speaker 1: little on the smaller side. Five ten. You know, he says, hey,
Speaker 1: I think I'm five eleven. Um, take that for what
Speaker 1: it's worth. Um. But but but a fast guy, all
Speaker 1: kinds of man to man cover skills. But then only
Speaker 1: two interceptions on the stat sheet for somebody who uh um,
Speaker 1: for somebody who is is as talented as he is.
Speaker 1: And and I asked him, you know, well, what is
Speaker 1: the what is the thing that the coaches and the
Speaker 1: scouts in the NFL like want you to work on?
Speaker 1: And he says, you know, finding the ball, tracking the ball,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, which, of course that's what's going
Speaker 1: to lead to more interceptions when you're in those man
Speaker 1: to man situations. So two guys with a lot of
Speaker 1: talent and a ton of upside, but not perfect prospects either. So, um,
Speaker 1: just your thoughts maybe on how this is going to
Speaker 1: shake out, is maybe who is who's the top guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna go first. Yeah, I can't sit here and
Speaker 1: say that these guys shouldn't have come out for the
Speaker 1: draft there one and two really probably with with Izzy
Speaker 1: Oliver out of Colorado in terms of the prospects at
Speaker 1: this position. But the questions that both I don't want
Speaker 1: to say they raised red flags for me, but it
Speaker 1: does from a Packers perspective make me slightly apprehensive. And
Speaker 1: the reason I say that is Packers are a man
Speaker 1: press man defense and now we'll have to see what
Speaker 1: kind of adjustments they make ultimately underneath Mike Petton. But
Speaker 1: Joe Witt is still here. He's a press man coach.
Speaker 1: So a guy like Josh Jackson has the size six,
Speaker 1: that's the type of guy that you want up on
Speaker 1: the line, but he hasn't done it a lot. And
Speaker 1: then you look from words perspective to add more context
Speaker 1: to what you were saying, the old run wolf way
Speaker 1: of doing businesses the guys underneath five eleven. He really
Speaker 1: don't want to shift from that. Yeah, you're taking a
Speaker 1: risk there, and the Packers the one him that they
Speaker 1: win against that with a mod Carroll. You know how
Speaker 1: the rest of the story wins. So uh, both of
Speaker 1: these guys I think are incomplete in that way. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think maybe if we were talking about
Speaker 1: the end of the first round, that's where I potentially
Speaker 1: be a little bit more comfortable. But I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see they have pro days coming up. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of different things that are going to happen. But as
Speaker 1: far as number fourteen, I'm it just doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: me like this year there's a Jalen Ramsey type guy
Speaker 1: that is just okay, that's the guy. Top ten talent.
Speaker 1: There we are. It seems to me that cornerback position,
Speaker 1: there's depth there. But I just don't think there's a
Speaker 1: guy right now, at least on my perspective. Whatever that
Speaker 1: means that that just jumps off the page is a
Speaker 1: is a must for a top fifteen. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: mentioned Oliver from Colorado. He's another one of these guys
Speaker 1: being talked about in the mix. I personally don't know
Speaker 1: a lot about him. Can you kind of fill us
Speaker 1: in or what do you know about another guy that's
Speaker 1: big and lengthy. I mean that's six one and obviously
Speaker 1: two one or ninety pounds. I mean, the other thing
Speaker 1: that stands out to you about his game, he offers
Speaker 1: you some punt return versatility. Uh, there's other things he
Speaker 1: can do from day one to come out and help
Speaker 1: a football team. The thing is, though, again it's another
Speaker 1: guy that think had like one or two in two
Speaker 1: interceptions during his his last season, another junior entry. So
Speaker 1: there's so much projection that goes into this. You go
Speaker 1: back to the last time the Packers have invested into
Speaker 1: this position. Last year, Kevin King gave you a lot
Speaker 1: of production, but again coming from that system of cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: didn't really have a lot in one specific area. He
Speaker 1: played boundary. He started as a safety, he worked you know,
Speaker 1: the slot at times, and then the year before that,
Speaker 1: I mean it was just a total kind of crap
Speaker 1: shoot with de Marius Randall coming from playing basically a
Speaker 1: box safety and then Quentin Rollins had just transition to
Speaker 1: the position. So a lot of times I think that
Speaker 1: puts it puts some pressure on your scouts. It puts
Speaker 1: pressure on Joe Wit guys to understand, okay, what we
Speaker 1: want to do in this system and find people that
Speaker 1: compliment that. The one thing that I think going back
Speaker 1: to Jackson, you can't you can't argue with eight interceptions
Speaker 1: in the Big ten and there were some big interceptions
Speaker 1: in some big games, and I know that was something
Speaker 1: that you kind of talked to him about, you know
Speaker 1: what he was able to accomplish and really only fourteen
Speaker 1: starts as a Division one, you know, starting quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he he basically played nickel corner for Iowa his first
Speaker 1: two seasons. Was was beaten out his second year by
Speaker 1: another player for the starting boundary corner job. So then
Speaker 1: he was the nickel guy coming off the bench. And
Speaker 1: then in his one year as a starter three interceptions
Speaker 1: against Ohio State to pick six is against Wisconsin at
Speaker 1: Camp Randall ended up with eight interceptions overall, which led
Speaker 1: the country twenty six passes defense. I believe was that
Speaker 1: was the final statistic there for him. Just a stat
Speaker 1: that clearly jumps off the page. Another thing about Ward
Speaker 1: two from Ohio State that I'll mention. Assuming war does
Speaker 1: get drafted in the first round, he will be the
Speaker 1: fifth defensive back and fourth cornerback out of Ohio State
Speaker 1: to go in the first round in a span of
Speaker 1: three drafts. Because two years ago, Eli Apple a cornerback
Speaker 1: was the first round pick, and then last year three
Speaker 1: Ohio State dbs all taken in the first round, Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lattimore who ended up being the NFL's Defensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year with New Orleans, and then also the safety
Speaker 1: Malik Hooker and the other cornerback Gary and Connley. So
Speaker 1: there's a pedigree here with in this these recent years
Speaker 1: with Ohio State and defensive backs and Denzil Awards. As Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be the next guy.
Speaker 1: I want to carry on that tradition. Yeah, not to
Speaker 1: rip on ward. Two things I want to add, as
Speaker 1: far as to his credit four point three tot you
Speaker 1: can't coach that. That's just speed. That's the speed. The
Speaker 1: speed is not a question with him, whereas it is
Speaker 1: with Jackson. Yes, and then also did the run Wolf
Speaker 1: way of thinking to be fair Ron Wolf retired in
Speaker 1: two thousand one. Is a gm a lot of boundary
Speaker 1: corner action. There wasn't a lot of slot play. There's
Speaker 1: ways now in a defense to really utilize those guys,
Speaker 1: even if they aren't six ft tall. Yeah, it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how it plays out. But for now,
Speaker 1: we're going to toss it to a breakback with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford right here West, hodko w It's all the
Speaker 1: way over there at West. One of the things that's
Speaker 1: always fun to do at the combine is you search
Speaker 1: through the list of prospects trying to find, you know,
Speaker 1: these different guys that maybe have some connection to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: some connection to the Packers somewhere in their history, and
Speaker 1: here they are trying to make their way in the
Speaker 1: NFL draft. Well, there's one that you talked to and
Speaker 1: you wrote about him on our website who grew up
Speaker 1: basically a ten minute walk from lambeau Field. And here
Speaker 1: he is at the at at the scouting comment and
Speaker 1: who he was, I should say, trying to make his
Speaker 1: impression and state his case to be a to be
Speaker 1: a high draft pick. Tell us about him. Tennessee defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Khalil Mackenzie, the son of Reginald Mackenzie, the Packers
Speaker 1: former personnel executive and current Raiders GM. I actually had
Speaker 1: a chance to cover Khalil when he was still at
Speaker 1: Green Bay South his two seasons there. I I live
Speaker 1: streamed some of his football games for the Trojans, and
Speaker 1: I'll never forget his freshman year. The first time, you know,
Speaker 1: you go to the game. You remember those used to
Speaker 1: cover preps. You get the roster sheet, right, and it
Speaker 1: said Khalil Mackenzie. I think he was number ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong on that, but six ft two forty
Speaker 1: pounds f R freshman pounds Mike, I'm five eight on
Speaker 1: a good day and seventy pounds and I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just shows you just what kind of
Speaker 1: both him and his brother Jalen, who's now attack on
Speaker 1: offensive tackle at usc UH. These guys had it in
Speaker 1: their blood. And what happened is after his sophomore year,
Speaker 1: him and his family decided to follow his dad out
Speaker 1: to California. So he only had his first fifteen years
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. But I asked him about that, what
Speaker 1: that time meant to him? Green Bay Southwest they won
Speaker 1: their first conference title in thirty seven years while he
Speaker 1: was there. They had two deep runs in the w
Speaker 1: i A State playoffs, came up a little short of stay,
Speaker 1: but just some phenomenal memories he had. Goes on to Tennessee,
Speaker 1: played three seasons there was injured during one of them.
Speaker 1: In this past year really, I think started to come
Speaker 1: into his own. I think he's surprised some people when
Speaker 1: he declared for the NFL Draft instead of going back
Speaker 1: for his senior season. But to him talking with his dad,
Speaker 1: this is a decision he felt was right for his
Speaker 1: future and now going to try his luck at the NFL.
Speaker 1: But he certainly has Packers in his pedigree for sure. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting because you know, and not to
Speaker 1: not to knock anybody, but there are certain things that
Speaker 1: you're blessed with that are God given. Reggie mackenzie not
Speaker 1: a small man. Reggie's twin brother, Raleigh not a small man.
Speaker 1: And uh Khalil Mackenzie now Reggie's son and Raleigh's nephew,
Speaker 1: the two of the two elder ones obviously being you know,
Speaker 1: NFL veterans. Um Khalil not a small young man. No,
Speaker 1: he hasn't and he goes in about six three I
Speaker 1: think he waited in at three and twenty pounds. And
Speaker 1: I was he was at one of the pody or
Speaker 1: the one of the tables off to the side of
Speaker 1: the podage. He was talking in with the media and
Speaker 1: and I just the size of his calves and his
Speaker 1: lower body, what he has to work with. The bloodlines
Speaker 1: are there. This is the guy who was a five
Speaker 1: star recruit coming out of high school. And even though
Speaker 1: you know, I know there was some setbacks for him
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. He said he wishes he would have won more.
Speaker 1: But like I said, the potential has always been there.
Speaker 1: So the neat thing for him right now is he
Speaker 1: spent his You know, he spent a ton of time
Speaker 1: as a kid inside the Packers buildings, going through game programs,
Speaker 1: going through stat sheets, scouting players with his dad. You know,
Speaker 1: he recalled in two thousand and eleven being on the
Speaker 1: podium just off to the side when Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: lifting the Lombardi Trophy with the belt on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: Just the memories that this guy has had and his
Speaker 1: short time span only twenty one years old. Uh, and
Speaker 1: now trying to make his own NFL dreams come true.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great story to watch. And he
Speaker 1: wouldn't bite on whether or not he had a formal
Speaker 1: interview with the Raiders or not. I don't know how
Speaker 1: exactly that works in their household, but uh, certainly very
Speaker 1: excited now about this next step. First, we almost wonder,
Speaker 1: like how much would the Raiders really have to find
Speaker 1: doubt about him, because Reggie pretty much, you would think,
Speaker 1: would know everything there is to know. That being said,
Speaker 1: it is interesting though that he decided to declare earlier
Speaker 1: you play three years in the SEC. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: definitely got something going there. But he's not being talked
Speaker 1: about it as as a high draft picks. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: trying to trying to jump in there early, but I
Speaker 1: guess we'll see what happens with that. We'll go to
Speaker 1: a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right after this.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford alongside West, Hidekowits
Speaker 1: and West. Quickly before we go, since this is our
Speaker 1: first show back in the studio after our trip to
Speaker 1: the Combine, just wanted to get your thoughts. What was
Speaker 1: the single thing that made the biggest impression on you
Speaker 1: during the weekend? And well, I mean certainly it's Shack Griffin.
Speaker 1: Everything else is one B, one C, one D. And
Speaker 1: we'll get to talking about Griffin a little bit more
Speaker 1: on shows later this week. But Michael Joseph is a
Speaker 1: name I think people need to pay attention to. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that will not be going in
Speaker 1: the first probably first two days of the draft, is
Speaker 1: hoping to get drafted all together. But he's a cornerback
Speaker 1: from Dubuque. And for those who haven't followed, it's a
Speaker 1: Division three school that's miles from where I grew up
Speaker 1: at there you go, just across the Mississippi River. Yes
Speaker 1: it is. I've been down there. It's a beautiful, beautiful town.
Speaker 1: But so interestingly enough, Michael Joseph ends up there. Didn't
Speaker 1: play hardly at all in high school. He I think
Speaker 1: he had five tackles. Um, you know, didn't really ever
Speaker 1: get a chance to play a cornerback, and and kind
Speaker 1: of went to college feeling like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: never really got my shots. So he starts off on
Speaker 1: basically the JV version of their football team, uh, not
Speaker 1: even on their actual team, and just over time just
Speaker 1: gets more opportunities, more opportunities. Is sophomore year he starts starting,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly this guy ends up turning into a
Speaker 1: legitimate prospect. Uh, and now getting this attention, I asked
Speaker 1: him if Dubuke's ever had anyone in the league. He
Speaker 1: mentioned there's a couple of guys that got tryouts, but
Speaker 1: this is a big opportunity for this young man trying
Speaker 1: to make an NFL dream come true and and going
Speaker 1: from such a small stage. He was one of the
Speaker 1: finalists for the Division Three Award last year for best
Speaker 1: Small school player. To now having a chance to to
Speaker 1: potentially make it in the NFL, just I think incredible.
Speaker 1: It shows incredible amount of him and determination, perseverance. Didn't
Speaker 1: have the best grades in high school, but really worked
Speaker 1: hard at trying to make this dream come true. And
Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the most probably under
Speaker 1: the radar, but yet compelling stories to come out of
Speaker 1: the combine. Yeah, definitely will be. Uh will be an
Speaker 1: interesting story to follow and see just how that unfolds.
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna say about my biggest impression, and this
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't come as a shock, but when you're there
Speaker 1: at the combine, the reality sort of sets in. And
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is just all the attention that
Speaker 1: is on quarterbacks in this draft, and how different a
Speaker 1: draft is for a team such as the Packers when
Speaker 1: you're not in the market for a first round cornerback
Speaker 1: because you don't have to find that franchise guy. And
Speaker 1: then the teams that are because you know, this year
Speaker 1: you're talking about Sam Donald from USC, Josh Allen from Wyoming,
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, U C. L. A. Baker, may have Mayfield
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, even Mason Rudolph from Oklahoma State. All these
Speaker 1: guys being talked about. Quarterback is always going to be overdrafted.
Speaker 1: The quarterback press conferences have the most reporters around him.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to talk to them, find out what's going
Speaker 1: on there, where they think they're going to be picked,
Speaker 1: and how they're gonna fit with this system or that system.
Speaker 1: The the attention on the quarterbacks is just never ending.
Speaker 1: It it just reinforces. It is the premier position probably
Speaker 1: in all of sports, and teams need to find him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that continues next month. Alright, with that, we will call
Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted, but
Speaker 1: be sure to follow all of our coverage of the
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