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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, who bust your ad?

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Speaker 1: Like if you work where you was like, this is the.

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Speaker 2: League, Reggie Miller, you chased the welcome screens. Davis boys, Uh,

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Speaker 2: they got me, bad.

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Speaker 3: Man, the worst type of dude as a young boy.

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Speaker 2: Man, I was eighteen years old. First. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I played the whole preseason. I was then there starting

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Speaker 2: me and Bead in New Orleans cooking. I was like

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Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen. Then I ain't played the first two and

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Speaker 2: a half months, and David Wesley.

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Speaker 3: George Lynch, welcome to the league.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm all right. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm

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Speaker 2: about to season, about to start, I'm about to get

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Speaker 2: some it's about to be about to be young. Then

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Speaker 2: play the first two and a half months, I was

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Speaker 2: over there, miserable. They traded David Wesley like right before

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Speaker 2: All Star breaking something. And the first game I had Reggie,

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Speaker 2: he went for like thirty six thirty all trades, s uf.

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Speaker 3: All running this way, slinging everything.

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Speaker 2: But I couldn't touch him.

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Speaker 3: You know how it was started here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then.

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Speaker 2: I'm running into the Davis boy they over there setting

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Speaker 2: them big ass screens. I'm like, man, It was the

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Speaker 2: quietest thirty piece I've ever got.

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Speaker 4: It was just for you.

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Speaker 2: Before you can even get out there, you might just

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Speaker 2: go the other way that joint, y'all.

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Speaker 5: You tuned into the Knuckleheads Q Ridge D Miles were

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Speaker 5: telling live on location New York City.

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Speaker 4: Y'all.

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Speaker 5: We came out to high let my man J Smill,

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Speaker 5: it's her.

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Speaker 4: Look at this.

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Speaker 5: This is Q Rich and D Miles and Knuckleheads.

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Speaker 4: We coach and push it. That's when I knew. I

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Speaker 4: was like, this is fact.

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Speaker 3: Finder right here. This is a story that people don't know.

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Speaker 4: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 4: I did deal with a lot of loser and that

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Speaker 4: shit sucked. I got your craft.

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Speaker 3: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 4: But it's always good vibe. Yeah, what a y'all doing here?

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Speaker 5: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 5: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 5: And okay, I liked it.

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Speaker 3: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: When I was in high school, I went to a

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Speaker 1: school called Lincoln Senior High School.

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Speaker 4: It had all the history and stuff.

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Speaker 1: When I grew up, I seen that my sophomore year

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Speaker 1: I only played three years of high school, but after

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Speaker 1: that my school closed down, like they went on strike.

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Speaker 4: For the first two months of school.

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Speaker 1: I played in the tournament with q now and I

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Speaker 1: was about to transfer. I was thinking about transferring to

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Speaker 1: q Them High School because I knew they was gonna

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Speaker 1: win state. They was deep, whole AU team just basically

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Speaker 1: like for they players was basically IAU team and you

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Speaker 1: know the boys undefeated the year. So you know, our

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Speaker 1: school went on strike the first two months and then

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Speaker 1: I went to school, played my sophomore year, and then

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Speaker 1: our school closed down. So I was thinking about going

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Speaker 1: school Call for Sean Q was graduate, so I cled

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Speaker 1: with young Off I think because they whole squad graduated.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know too many.

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Speaker 1: I knew nig but I went to two high school,

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Speaker 1: two different high schools. I went to the Arrival High

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Speaker 1: So I want you to kind of elaborate on like

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Speaker 1: how you went from this school to that school and

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Speaker 1: then went straight out high school.

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Speaker 4: Look for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so my freshman year I went to school with

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Speaker 2: Dante Jones. My freshman year Dante was a you know,

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Speaker 2: Dante has just left. So my freshman year it was

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Speaker 2: like I was supposed to be the next Dante whatever whatever.

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Speaker 4: What school was there? Steiner went to New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I ain't live in the school district,

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Speaker 2: so they kicked me out right like in the middle

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Speaker 2: So they kicked me. They kicked me out because I

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Speaker 2: it's a Catholic school because my pops didn't want me

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Speaker 2: to go to the original school. I was supposed to

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Speaker 2: go to the Lakewood High School, so I went there.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't feeling that the coach was on some bs, so

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm out here. My sophomore year,

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Speaker 2: I went to the high school I was supposed to

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Speaker 2: go take For two years Lakewood. I was doing my

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Speaker 2: thing football and basketball, but you know, young kid school

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Speaker 2: like that. I wasn't going to class. I wasn't doing

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Speaker 4: Did you play football at this season? Yeah? I played,

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Speaker 4: So you made you did enough to play football.

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Speaker 2: I have way more scholarships in football than the world basketball.

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Speaker 2: I could have went anybody. I wanted the football. But

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Speaker 2: what strong safety and wide receiver? Okay, my sophomore year,

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Speaker 2: my cousin was the number one recruit in New Jersey

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Speaker 2: for football. He went to Miami, played d N and

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Speaker 2: that year in two thousand and two thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: and they won the national championship in all that. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, football, the way I already know all

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Speaker 2: the coaches who came through here, they can't set in

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Speaker 2: the same living room. I'm living with my cousins at

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Speaker 2: the time, so the same thing. I'm like, man, I

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Speaker 2: do you know everybody in Miami. I'm going to Miami

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Speaker 2: play football? I was like, all right, cool. So I

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Speaker 2: talked to the football coach. I was like, I love basketball, though,

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Speaker 2: football interferes with it. You know, we played, we played

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. So you know you ain't gonna be really,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna miss part of the basketball season. I was like, nah,

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Speaker 2: and forth for practice whatever, It's like, yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: trying to bed on back. Then I was like, nah,

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna happen. I was like, you know what, Nah,

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Speaker 2: I'm cool. Then I went to UH, I saw I

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Speaker 2: want to transfer to Saint Benedict's. UH Danny Hurley as

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Speaker 2: senior Bobby Hurley soon and all that. He really gave

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If I didn't there, if I adn't do what I

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Speaker 2: There wasn't even playing that. So whatever, So I go there.

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Speaker 2: That's how I got through that. I was always everybody

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Speaker 2: And then after the McDonald's game, I asked Carolina. I

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Speaker 2: was like, you know what they're telling me, I could

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Speaker 2: go pro now, but if y'all let me play football,

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Speaker 2: was like, ah, Carolina, you know you gotta you start

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm gone, I ain't even I

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Speaker 2: ain't even messing around.

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Speaker 1: So you really wanted to play football though in college?

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Speaker 1: Want to play both Peppers and others. They came Jolie

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Speaker 2: Yeah, him and him and Ronald Curry was was going

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Speaker 2: to be the last players they did let play both.

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Speaker 2: But then the kid named Jesse Holly from Jersey. He

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Speaker 2: played wide receiver and point guard at Carolina and I

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Speaker 2: knew him, so he was like a year or two

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Speaker 2: I definitely could do it. But Roy Williams, I just

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Speaker 2: got there. He was like, nah playing, No, it's over with.

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Speaker 1: When I came out, I wasn't gonna go unless I

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Speaker 1: was I was lottery. Did they tell you he was lottery?

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Speaker 1: Or did you feel like you was lottery because I

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Speaker 4: Eighteen and it was it a slip?

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Speaker 1: Or you was just like, I don't care a long

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Speaker 1: to go because I didn't want to slip. I seen

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Speaker 1: Rashaul Lewis slip and I kind of watched that draft

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Speaker 1: on I stood on it like, man, I ain't if

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Speaker 1: you ain't telling me I'm the top eleven twelve, I'm

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Speaker 1: not coming nowhere.

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Speaker 2: No for me. It was like I was never like

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Speaker 2: a school kind of dude. Man Like I never was

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm not in the books,

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Speaker 2: I'm not running. I'm not sitting there studying for all

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Speaker 2: of this and that I'm running the hallways, chasing girls,

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Speaker 3: So I was.

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Speaker 2: I was never that person man I go to I

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Speaker 2: went to my visits in college and they sitting here,

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Speaker 2: sit me down, academic advisors and tell me, abou this

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Speaker 2: is what you need and to do this. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, I'm just coming here to have fun

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Speaker 2: and hoop, like I ain't even trying to get nothing career.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to This is like a it's a

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Speaker 2: pit stop for me, all this is surreal to me

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Speaker 2: living the day by day, I'm seeing new stuff coming

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Speaker 2: from Jersey. Then a young kid in high school colleges

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Speaker 2: want to do this and that for the family and

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Speaker 2: all that. I'm like, man, I'm trying to get to

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Speaker 2: the league. I could do this for myself, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I could do this for everybody. We

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Speaker 2: don't need y'all to do that.

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Speaker 3: So was it for you?

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Speaker 5: Just like I know I'm gonna get picked or it

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Speaker 5: don't matter where I get picked. I'm just I'm going

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Speaker 5: to the air I ain't. I don't want to go

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Speaker 5: to school.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to the al ain't. It didn't really matter

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Speaker 2: for me. Honestly. I woulday everybody want to go a lottery,

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Speaker 2: But for me, it's just like, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get to the league because I know if I get

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Speaker 2: to the league, I can set myself up to where

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Speaker 2: I can put myself in positions to where everything else

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Speaker 2: it didn't really matter, you know what I'm saying. Look

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Speaker 2: at time Brady time Brady was six round ndred niney

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Speaker 2: nine pick, the greatest of all time. They got six

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Speaker 2: rigs and everything. So I left the picks and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that, aside as a young age because I was

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Speaker 2: already counted out anyway. They had so many people in

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Speaker 2: front of me, and when I was making the McDonald's

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Speaker 2: I ain't know if I was going to be a

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Speaker 2: m in the McDonald's game. They got this person, that person,

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Speaker 2: that person. I'm fifteen year vet and these dudes touched

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Speaker 2: the league two months totally. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I just let that go.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to touch when you got drafted at eighteen, Like,

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Speaker 5: by the way, what did you.

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Speaker 4: What did you do?

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Speaker 1: Like when you like when you when you heard your

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Speaker 3: Were you at the draft?

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Speaker 2: I was what you do?

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Speaker 1: Like you went kick you go through the hood because

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Speaker 3: That man crazy.

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Speaker 2: I was chilling at the crib, had everybody over the crib,

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Speaker 2: they called my name. Everybody was going crazy. I'm just

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Speaker 3: You expecting to go that high?

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Speaker 5: Because I know you said you didn't really know what

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Speaker 2: I tell the story all the time. So my agent

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Speaker 2: nine in Philly. I'm like, what, I'm going to Philly? Alright,

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Speaker 2: bet as long as Ben been go and don't go

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Speaker 2: to Chicago at three? You going to Philly. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, bet, I'm sitting here on edge the whole day.

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Speaker 2: Please don't let Chicago drafts, dude, Please don't let Chicago

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Speaker 2: drafters do one Dwight Howard, two Mecha Opra for sure

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Speaker 2: enough three Bengo. I said, mother, I was hot because

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Speaker 2: I didn't even work out for New Orleans. My agent

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Speaker 2: was like, nah, I ain't working out for them, You're

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Speaker 2: It's like New Orleans called at like thirteen or fourteen. Man,

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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I didn't want to go to

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Speaker 4: You just like us.

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Speaker 1: We didn't work out for the Clippers and they won

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Speaker 4: We didn't want to go there at all. They was

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Speaker 5: But we got THEMN was in love. Yeah, we got there.

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Speaker 5: It turned we was like we're about to be in Hollywood.

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Speaker 5: We thought we was about to be everything, right, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely true.

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Speaker 1: When I came up, always played with older cats, and

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Speaker 1: when I decided to go in, like I'm here, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of adapted to the level. And that's how

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Speaker 4: Like that's the way you felt Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like when I first got there, every they just wanted

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Speaker 2: As I was eighteen, nobody everybody's like, man, he don't

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Speaker 2: understand the game. D d You know when we was

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Speaker 2: coming out, we was just young fishing that big old pond.

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Speaker 2: The other dudes just like, man, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: help him. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: help him develop those dames because that's my spot. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Oh it was. It wasn't like

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Speaker 2: how it is now. Everybody won't be all friendly. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you how to do this. Let's work

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Speaker 2: out together. Yeah, let's work out together. This dude from

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Speaker 2: this team, just do from that team. Let's work out together.

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Speaker 2: You can hit the summertime you hit, somebody fall you

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Speaker 2: might they might have changed their number and everything. So

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Speaker 2: it was like, all right, somebody you're playing against them, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Working on moves together. Like, no, we ain't gonna work

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Speaker 1: out together. But once they throw the ball five on

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Speaker 1: five we're gonna play against it.

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Speaker 5: And the way for y'all, especially y'all too, being straight

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Speaker 3: People really looking at y'all like, man, you a young boy,

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Speaker 3: Come get my job.

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Speaker 5: You might get a blessing like you like an hour

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Speaker 5: Herington had a d you know what I'm saying, take

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Speaker 5: him under his wing on some og like he lived with.

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Speaker 3: But like most of the other.

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Speaker 5: People looking at him like all right, like let him

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Speaker 5: come ask me for some help.

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Speaker 2: I guess if I got you. Yeah, oh no, you

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Speaker 2: ain't gotta be on time to worry about it. Five

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Speaker 2: thought all the five mister Busch all that other stuff.

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Speaker 2: They don't even think about that and laughing at it

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Speaker 2: like it's funny. Yeah, like it's joke, Like wait a minute, dog,

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Speaker 2: it's five racks bro chirk about for practice.

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Speaker 1: They ain't like many'll you gotta get together. So so

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Speaker 1: how was that for you?

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Speaker 5: Like coming in you you fresh out eighteen, You know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, straight out of high school.

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Speaker 3: You're playing with Baron Davis. You living in New Orleans

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Speaker 3: and you know you ate team.

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Speaker 5: You've grown, you got big boy money in your mind,

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Speaker 5: just like we think we're the richest thing in the

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Speaker 5: world rookie. So it's like, you know how how was

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Speaker 5: definitely like what was what was your day to day?

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Speaker 5: Like at eighteen, Like you ain't got nothing to do

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Speaker 5: but practice about two hours? What you was on World

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Speaker 5: Star all day?

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Speaker 2: And video they have World start with true World wasn't

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Speaker 2: it was for me? It was like all I did

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Speaker 2: I play video games and I'll go to beau the house,

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Speaker 2: wake up in the morning, shoot over to practice because

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Speaker 2: I was running late anyway for no reasons, just coming

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Speaker 5: Because you eighteen and you ain't got you ain't got

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Speaker 5: nobody here to make you do nothing right.

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Speaker 2: I was every coge See that's how we was. Were

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Speaker 2: getting club bro nowhere.

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Speaker 5: They were like whatever the top of high school game.

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Speaker 3: We was at those games. And then we was at

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Speaker 3: all the college.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we was. We were doing a lot of stuff

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Speaker 4: to go over the house and do all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we did do. L was our vet.

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Speaker 3: He was nineteen, like.

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Speaker 4: We police our own. We went on that. We were

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Speaker 4: doing our.

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Speaker 2: That That's the hardest thing though. We eighteen, nineteen years

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Speaker 2: old and people know it. So it's like you go

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Speaker 2: to the club ain't no fake id, no nothing, no

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Speaker 2: you we know you come on come here, No you're

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Speaker 2: not getting in stopped coming over here.

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Speaker 5: Right, talk about like you still nineteen twenty. And then

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Speaker 5: you get to play with Ai.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy because I was the youngest person on

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Speaker 2: the team for like seven years, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like for my first seven years, I was the youngest

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Speaker 2: ude of the tea. And then like walking in and

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Speaker 2: I got Ai sitting this on this side, mellow cent

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Speaker 2: on this side. I came out over there, can be

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Speaker 2: right there. It was crazy because hey, y'all, like I'm

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Speaker 2: from Jersey, so Jersey, Philly, New York. We all in

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Speaker 2: that Tri state whatever game. Yeah, so it's like to

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Speaker 2: see AI and knowing who knowing the back stories of

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Speaker 2: who he is was a player as a person, and

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Speaker 2: then go in and see him. All I heard was

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Speaker 2: all your asshole, your bad teammate. This he that, you

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Speaker 2: don't show for practice, He don't do this, you don't

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Speaker 2: do that. And then I get there. He practicing every

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Speaker 2: day cooking, cooking. Yeah, he hung out, We kicked it

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Speaker 2: and everything till then the next day. But that next

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Speaker 2: ft one hundred and sixty pounds frying.

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Speaker 5: People don't understand that. It's like, that's a talent class though,

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Speaker 5: to be able to go out and party and still

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Speaker 5: come in and get whoever the work.

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Speaker 2: The work I'm talking about, somebody.

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Speaker 5: Could do it and beating wind hard as anybody out,

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Speaker 5: got it in as good as anybody out to come

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Speaker 5: in and straight get.

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Speaker 2: To them, get to the money. Dog, I promise it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a couple of days. I ain't see a

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Speaker 2: miss bro in practice and everything, like we go out,

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Speaker 2: we go to Miami and go wherever la we kick it.

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Speaker 2: I go out and everything. Next day forty five y'all

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Speaker 2: you was with me, right, yeah, you was there. You

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Speaker 2: was there and you had forty five to day. Hey man,

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Speaker 2: that's my special power, right, that's what that's what that's like.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what they thanks because I ain't have it

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Speaker 2: to night. For sure. It was amazing man, because he's

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Speaker 2: a real dude though, Like he really gave me game

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Speaker 2: on how to just treat people who talk bad about you,

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Speaker 2: the media and all that stuff. Like we've all been

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Speaker 2: in that situation toward the media trying and crush and

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Speaker 2: kill you and bring you down to the point where

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Speaker 2: we're like, I don't damn what they say about me.

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Speaker 2: They ain't gonna change who I am. They don't know me.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're talking about me like that. They knew

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Speaker 2: I don't put out there and through the social media

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Speaker 2: because it wasn't as big then, but still was like

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Speaker 2: hell with them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying that

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Speaker 5: I mean he was that for us from the outside

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Speaker 5: looking me and we tried to dress like jaggy clothes, jewelry,

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Speaker 5: you know, all of that. So everybody wanted to be

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Speaker 5: like Ai and be cool to do rags. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that was that was that was our generation, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. He was like one of the biggest

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Speaker 5: influences on that, you know, the early two thousand he

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Speaker 5: had his soul, you know what I'm saying, Reebok answer commercials.

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Speaker 3: With Jada Kiss and all that, like crazy, like he

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Speaker 5: So it was like he was definitely who everybody was

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Speaker 2: At that point special if you came from that.

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Speaker 3: From the hood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I tried to

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Speaker 2: grow my hair out many of times. It wasn't working.

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Speaker 3: It always braid, but I know I never had to

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I rocked the braids all the time. And with

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Speaker 1: all the designs and all the facts up that bad

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Speaker 1: and everything that CP three was your rookie. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: the rookie Chris Paul? Like the rookie Chris Paul?

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Speaker 4: A dog? It was.

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Speaker 2: He was a dog. It's crazy because we brought it.

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Speaker 2: We lived next door to each other, or he lived

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Speaker 2: on next street over, but we used to walk back

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Speaker 2: and forth to each other house. And he used to

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Speaker 2: drive me to practice every day. And it's different when

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Speaker 2: you got people doing stuff for you, but you with him,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, damn, I gotta go to for real,

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Speaker 2: like you go to get Christmas creep donuts. He gotta

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00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,159
Speaker 2: get him. But I went a car with him, so

439
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 2: we was like we both got to go get.

440
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 3: Him kie D.

441
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get an extra early because I want

442
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: him to drive, but.

443
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: Right earlier, I want him to drive. But still he

444
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 2: keeping you on point, right, he keep me on point

445
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 2: and he killing. It's like you know what I'm saying

446
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 2: so it was. It was crazy though, because he's had that.

447
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 2: Everybody knows CP he got that. He got that short

448
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 2: man complex, and for him, ain't nothing he can't do.

449
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. And that's the That's

450
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 2: the type people I like to be around because I

451
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: don't want nobody to be like, man, I can't do that.

452
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: I want to be around you you feel like you

453
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 2: can't do it, because I know I could do it.

454
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. It was dope to

455
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 2: see his growth in that process, to be tow what

456
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: he years now. Hall of famer for sure.

457
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 4: Straight up. He was in the Dunk Contest when Q.

458
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 5: Yeah contest, Oh y'all was they had the whole even

459
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 5: it was a Phoenix All Star weekend. Stattat came shout

460
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 5: out to stat. He came in second in the dunk contest.

461
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 5: We want everything else. Stevie won the skills competition, tricks

462
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 5: and all of them, and damn Marty don't want to

463
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 5: love whatever. Three so that thing and then I wanted

464
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 5: three josh, yeah, y'all.

465
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: Stat came in second.

466
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah y'all took that over. I was nervous though, man,

467
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: because again I was just my fire my second year.

468
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: So I got a I on the sideline All Star

469
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: Weekend Man All Star Weekend and jumping man. I got

470
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 2: my money on him. I seen him do this, like, oh,

471
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: Ship finished this up for sure, I gotta with this

472
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: rushing man eighteen nineteen years Solf like, hey, y'all over

473
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: here talking about kg over there your king. I'm like, nah,

474
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 2: I thought this was just like supposed to be fun.

475
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 2: Joe the monkey on my back.

476
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, Man, And you was one of the

477
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 5: dudes that during the lockout you went to China. I

478
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 5: know Wilson went, Kmark had win you you when you

479
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 5: guys ended up staying though, I know you.

480
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: Made it out there. I called him up. He said, bro,

481
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: how you get out of here like that? I'm trying

482
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: to get.

483
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: Out like that.

484
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 5: Wilson Can said kind of the same thing that, like

485
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 5: once he dipp t. He kind of they kind of

486
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 5: put rules in so nobody else could because they was kind.

487
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: Of south East like talk about that.

488
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: Whole experience, just being in the whole nother country hooping

489
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 5: and you about to stay there for the whole year.

490
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: It was messed up for me because the way they

491
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: told me before we got out there, I was like, yeah,

492
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: you know, you and Wilson gonna be out there together.

493
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you mean together, but we're on different teams,

494
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: like a different Citi's Like, no, it's like the Lakers

495
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: and Clippers. You know, I'm saying, y'all in the same

496
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: y'all in the same city, so I just play for

497
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: different teams. I'm like, so that's cool, like all right,

498
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: and they gave me the bread. I'm like, all right, cool,

499
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm with that. I get out there. He like a

500
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: three hour train ride away. I'm like, man, three hours?

501
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: How does that computer?

502
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 4: Like?

503
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: The same city?

504
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: Right? So, but you know, they got that bullet train,

505
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: so that's like supposed to be like ninety minutes or something.

506
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, y'all got me on this one. Y'all

507
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: got me all right?

508
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: Cool?

509
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: The bread was cool stuff. So I was straight I

510
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: get out there, see see where he at. I'm like, damn,

511
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: that was just like like like a real, real small

512
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: New York. But it's a city, you know what I'm saying.

513
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: It's a city that his city was kind of lit.

514
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: They put me dogging like Camden. I'll get out there.

515
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm getting out there. I'm looking around, like what's going on.

516
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, this is the city. I'm looking like, Man,

517
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm out. I ain't staying. I'm out. My sister talking

518
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: me off the cliff like four times. If it was

519
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: very I would have been gone. How long you stay

520
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: out there? Four and a half months? As long as

521
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: four and a half months most to eating. Man, we

522
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: ate KFC every day.

523
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: You didn't trust nothing.

524
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: We went to went to Beijing and Shanghai as much

525
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: as we could, and we ate like Rue Chris and

526
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: stuff like that when they had that there. But still

527
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you get over there, you don't

528
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: really you don't really know, but it's like taking the

529
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: leap of faith. Like anything else I went to. They

530
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: had team dinners and stuff. I go to the team dinner,

531
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: they you know, kind of scorpions and all of this,

532
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, all kinds of stuff, bro, like

533
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: for real, and it's like, oh no, this is a delicacy.

534
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: I ain't got a lady over here. What you're telling me?

535
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: That fuck like.

536
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: Going on?

537
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: But it was it was crazy, bro, like the food

538
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: and stuff. I'm like, man, it was good for hoop.

539
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: Though I could say that because I got to actually

540
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: develop my game, I say, like my mid range and

541
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I really you got to handle the ball.

542
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: My majority of my career up until I got to

543
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: New York, I never really handled the ball like that.

544
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: I was really playing like a point forward type situation.

545
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: So it was like you went out there and worked

546
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: on your game, came back for something new for sure. Yeah,

547
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: And I think that's that was the best thing for

548
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: me because I actually play the game how I wanted

549
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: to play and have to be out there like all right,

550
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna get a ball the mellow Ai Chauncy and

551
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: then you get in when you fit in, you know

552
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

553
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to be on the teams, all the

554
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: teams I played for.

555
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I used to feel like I can do way more,

556
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: but it was like you do this, and I'm a

557
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: team player. I don't never want to be a selfish player,

558
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: so I didn't overdo it. Times where Cheeks used to

559
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: come into the locker room like, man, you got more

560
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: than what you get.

561
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: We don't even need to call no place for you

562
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: to get thirty, right, right, I can go there to

563
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: go thirty.

564
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: But I feel like if he ain't enforced and it

565
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, get these moms to ball. It's like, man,

566
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: I gotta just play the right way because I don't

567
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: want to disrupt an offense that's already equipped to go

568
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: to somebody else for sure.

569
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: And then they label is uncoachable and everything else surround it.

570
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's so much people on the outside, like

571
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: who think they know basketball then trying to be in

572
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: your shoes. You really don't know what's going on. I

573
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: just can't stand the people who act like they never

574
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: made mistakes. Yeah, that's that's the crazy part too good. Yeah,

575
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: like people said, oh man, he's making twenty million dollars

576
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: when he's doing out at the bar.

577
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: What You're right, you can't do no wrong.

578
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but it's people to make more money than

579
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 5: us did still go out to the bars and clubs

580
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: and live.

581
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Their lives and do worship than we do.

582
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: Actually, you're a thirty two year old man with kids,

583
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: like you can't go to have a drink.

584
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: Right, At what point am I not a normal person anymore? Why?

585
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Because I played the NBA. Yeah, this is when it

586
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: don't get fun. They feel like everybody against you. Probably

587
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: when you was in New York. It's how I felt

588
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: like when I was in Portland. It was like, Man,

589
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: the organizations feel like they set me up. I feel

590
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: like everybody just against me. I feel like they following

591
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: me around, like what I'm doing so wrong? That I

592
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: was just in another city and didn't nobody say nothing

593
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: about that at all. Now I'll get to this city,

594
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: it's like as a whole on That's how you know.

595
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: From team of teams, stuff is different, city stuff is

596
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: different for me.

597
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: It happened within the year you I went for six

598
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: mans this year to Heny gout the year year I

599
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: rememver coming here.

600
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: They guy, it was classic, bro. It was crazy. I

601
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: was like he ever lived up to.

602
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: The hype, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm

603
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: him to be like just bouncing off the wall with

604
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 5: the stories you have been hearing, Like you know what

605
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Because I set out most of the years,

606
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 5: so you know, I'm paying attention to everything I'm looking.

607
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm I'm not really seeing it. Like he

608
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: was relatively quiet for the most part. I can remember

609
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 5: back to Vegas, I can't remember. You might have been

610
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: with New Orleans. You definitely was early in the league,

611
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: and you know you was you was going through.

612
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: The whole you know, end this thing or whatever.

613
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: And I saw you in the elevator we used in

614
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: the team hotel whatever, and I seen him. I was lit.

615
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: I don't know where I was coming from where I

616
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 5: was most me and real, and I'm looking at him

617
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: and he.

618
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: Was like, man, he like you lit.

619
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I'm just talking wild and here

620
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: he was like, He's like, damn dog.

621
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: If I was out here like this, da have me.

622
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: On TV right now. I was like, and I was.

623
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 5: Just looking at him like that's funny though, like cause

624
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 5: it's like it's to me, it be kind of just circumstantial,

625
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: like who gets labeled, who gets what? Because we both

626
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 5: we all know we've had inmates that have done things.

627
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: It's been twenty times crazy anything we ever thought about

628
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: doing it for whatever reason. The guy was with him

629
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: he never got never never got and.

630
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: You're looking at him like, how you get away with that?

631
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Even do nothing but this, like how.

632
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna let me get everywhere the son he walking

633
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: to tell your hotel don't see nobody, nobody a lobby,

634
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: nobody at the front desk, do nothing. And now I

635
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: walk in there, somebody wife in there, the GM sitting there,

636
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: the head coach, and the sisters. They have to team me.

637
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: More people at the front desk. I gotta get a key.

638
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, God, Sometimes like sometimes it fits like

639
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: this guy is just like okay, you can't he can't

640
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: get out his own way. But sometimes it really just

641
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: be like that, like that damn, Like is that keep happening?

642
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: What I'm doing? Like, what I'm doing so wrong?

643
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: Bro?

644
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: No loud is the third glass of honey I've ever had?

645
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: Bro?

646
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, words shout out to But I take that.

647
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: I take the day. I appreciate it that.

648
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Cool.

649
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: I take it to be called a champion every time

650
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: somebody mentioned your name, Like I remember when I was

651
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: looking at you and just the emotion on your face.

652
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: We was proud and happy that you got there. But

653
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: they just don't understand the struggle that everybody had to

654
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: go through and the ups and downs and the ways

655
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: we bumped our head to learn what we need to

656
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: learn to get.

657
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: To this point. I know you was happy. I just

658
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: want you since you.

659
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: Then had.

660
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: But no, he can look back on it now and

661
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: he mature in it and he can sit there because

662
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: people don't understand it in the moment. They think you

663
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: just wilder wild he did and that, but you don't

664
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: understand what the sacrifice, but what we go through, like

665
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: what everything you went through to get into that moment

666
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: now that you look explaining at like that moment of

667
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: how they make you feel to be called champion.

668
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: Man, that's the ultimate goal, you know what I'm saying,

669
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Like were just saying team player and you're the ultimate

670
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: team player. The sacrifice that you gotta make to be

671
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: that person, to be that player, to get to that

672
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: level knowing you got so much more in your bag

673
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: to give or whatever, to harness that energy for the

674
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: better sake of the team, and then be a champion

675
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: after that. It's like, it's probably one of the hardest

676
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: things I've ever had to do because I'm coming from

677
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: a six Man of the Year helping the next get

678
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and doing all the stuff that we

679
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: haven't done in so long to taking that again, taking

680
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: that backseat road got Kyrie cav Bron obviously, It's just

681
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: it was hard from a sense of I got so

682
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: much more to this team, you know, and then you're like,

683
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell that we got him. We

684
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: got him, We got him. I'm just lock in on

685
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: defending the shoot and locking defending the shoot. Everything else

686
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: take care of yourself. Then to actually be able to

687
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: win that, it was like like damn, Like if I

688
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: could sometimes, if I just listen, I could do something.

689
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: It was like you history now, like you know, not

690
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: like a Lakers history, whereas like they got a million

691
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: other championship like you are history in Cleveland.

692
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: That was like the biggest thing right right, Like you

693
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

694
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 5: Broke this whole, all of the losing, all of the

695
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: sports across the board and all of that stuff. People

696
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: win championships and they loan for the reut like you

697
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 5: was a real part of that. Like you said, when

698
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: we saw you doing the celebrating, I was just sitting

699
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: there laughing, cracking up, but definitely super happy for you. Like, man,

700
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: my dude, I can't even imagine how I feel just

701
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 5: knowing you know what I'm saying. Did that make it

702
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: everything worth it? Like at that point, like it's like,

703
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: ain't nobody say nothing to me? I ain't nobody saying that.

704
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 5: No matter what nobody say to me, you.

705
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Know, it's crazy, man. That was the first thing I

706
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: thought when I seen the buzzer. I looked up, I

707
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: seen the buzzer hit zero. First thing I thought, my man,

708
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: my dad happy as hell right now. I know, I

709
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: know he going crazy and we always, you know, growing up,

710
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: we always talked about it. Second thing I thought, I

711
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: was like, man, I cannot wait to get back to

712
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: New York because they can't say ship to me. But

713
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: I was a throwing. I was a throwing and I

714
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: was started four year starter or the team and went

715
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: to the finals four years in the row. We want

716
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: a hip coming back from three? Want the artist?

717
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: Ever?

718
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: What I was like, wait a minute, So they traded

719
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: me and ship to Cleveland.

720
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: Like what they doing?

721
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: I said, don't they don't? They got Kyrie Kevin Brown.

722
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, Like he's like, don't worry about it.

723
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: They said, you the throwing of the day. I said,

724
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: I'm the throwing. I said, you know what, all right?

725
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: Cool?

726
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Like man, mellow, We've been Togeint, from New York to Denver.

727
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: We've been together. When I see him as like seeing

728
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: me at the point at that point we go everywhere together.

729
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: Everything else, I'm like danmgn seven years. Yeah, I'm like, damn, Like,

730
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: so I look over, I look, I look, I'm mellow.

731
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: I can't find mellow nowhere.

732
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, what hell?

733
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 6: Mellow?

734
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Mellow in the little side room going off on the

735
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: phone talking to the GM. He's like, man, why would

736
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: you changing going off? I'm like, damn, So I set

737
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: there to wrap oneer for a minute. Look, bro, our

738
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: relationship ain't gonna change. Obviously, eventually, this day was gonna

739
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: come sooner or later. It just so happened come fortunately

740
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: later because we've been together seven eight years whatever, you

741
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It was tough. But I'll tell

742
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: you one thing. I got on that plane. I ain't

743
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: look back. I put so much pressure on myself to

744
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: make sure the next time I came back to New

745
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: York they was gonna hate themselves for us. I wish,

746
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: I wish a Nick fan would say something to me

747
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: right now these dys comments or anybody say something, say anything.

748
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: But so, so with that being said, what was the

749
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 5: biggest thing you did?

750
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: Like? What, like after did you go buy something that

751
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: you go celebrate crazy with your fan?

752
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: I know you got a playoff a playoff bonus?

753
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: Like, what did you the.

754
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 7: First, because I follow you on, so you know, right,

755
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 7: the first thing, like what was it?

756
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: Like, No, I'm a champ, A champ got to have this,

757
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: So what did you do?

758
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 5: It was like, I mean I earned this, I deserve this,

759
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 5: Like I just did something today. You know, I did

760
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 5: something pretty big. So I'm gonna just do this for

761
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: myself one. I'm gonna just treat myself one time.

762
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: What did you do?

763
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: Damn?

764
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: I don't know.

765
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: Man. For me, it's always like for being turned away

766
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: from so many different spots and stuff like that. I

767
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 2: just went everywhere and nobody tell me nothing. For real,

768
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: I went everywhere. I had no shirt. I want to

769
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I went to the Browns game. I went to the

770
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: Browns game. I had no shirt.

771
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: He walked up, I walked.

772
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: I remember yard was a thing for a time.

773
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: I would the Indians was rocking. I went to the

774
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Indians game. I went to Ohio State football game. I

775
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: was going everywhere. You know, tickets do nothing. The best

776
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: in there stayed in Cleveland. You feel me, I'm not

777
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: even going. I got to this up a little bit

778
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: like normally, like who would just stay in Cleveland?

779
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: Right? But like no, I got this day. You heard

780
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: me he had tickets for Nothing's going.

781
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: I got so much love in Cleveland, bro, you I

782
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: would have thought I was born and raised there one champ.

783
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: It's just that where we come from, how hard, how

784
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: hard you had to work to get there. It's like

785
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: every person is going through that. It's not like La

786
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: where everybody is already something this, I do this. No,

787
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to this point, you know what

788
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that's how it is out there. It's

789
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: like so blue collar, like everybody's understands that they are

790
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: work in progress, whether it be a personal level or

791
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: getting a job or trying to do this, trying to

792
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: do that. Everybody understands that, and everybody it's pretty much

793
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: in that same grind. Yeah, it felt like y'all all

794
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: did it together.

795
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: I wont seventeen out of eighty two in Cleveland the

796
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: year before that.

797
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: Did you just hear that?

798
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: Seventeen out of eighty two?

799
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: You know, going I lost that minute, he only won.

800
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: It was like a ghost town nothing the year before

801
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: my first year we want eighteen.

802
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I.

803
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Love Cleveland though, because it reminded me of East Saint Louis.

804
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the crib. It's just southern, like

805
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: you can get that soul full.

806
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: The people was cool. People don't know. It's like real,

807
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 4: real rich people in Cleveland, real kind of rich.

808
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: Really they got wealthy.

809
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I always enjoyed Cleveland though, even though we were getting kicked.

810
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, we're trying to get king,

811
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: but you know we definitely they definitely showed up.

812
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: Hey, you being one of the dudes.

813
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: This, I don't know what you would call it, like well,

814
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: I guess young people call it like hype beasts and

815
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: all that, Like you wanted the dudes.

816
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: I know this because my mom.

817
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 5: Because my fourteen year old Caleb, he knows all.

818
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: He's like, yo, like the yard SMI everything Supreme.

819
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about that, being like

820
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: one of the dudes that like the Supreme or the brands,

821
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: so like you know, the little the trendy vans that

822
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: everybody trying to get into. You already plugged in. You

823
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: like you and OBJ like y'all got all exclusive and

824
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: all of this stuff. And it's like like how did

825
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: you get into that? And like how do you like,

826
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 5: I know, you like one of the you know, you

827
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 5: just came from what did you just come from?

828
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Before you came here? Boy was at the Ralph Lawn show,

829
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: so he pushed there won.

830
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: The fashion fashion How do you get hooked up with

831
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 5: all the people? I know that A big part of

832
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: that is you played here and in New York. That's

833
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: a huge part of it, right.

834
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. When I play here, I made

835
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: so many good, you know relationships with people who just

836
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: me being I never really looked down on people. I

837
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: got to look up and I'm going for this type.

838
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm going for that time. I'm going for that for

839
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: like so many people who was building brands doing what

840
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: they was doing when they was doing you know, and

841
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: they was at the bottom. I was just rocking because

842
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: it was you know, I mean cool people and they

843
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: made clothes and stuff like that. So for me when

844
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I was wear the same green

845
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: pair of sweatpants I remember, for like a week and

846
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: people just go to school, make fun of me and

847
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: do all this other stuff. So I was like, yo,

848
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: when I get older and I get my situation, I'm

849
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 2: gonna have everything crazy for sure. And I just kept

850
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: that with me. Now, you know, it's probably too too

851
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: much at this keep yeah, but the only bad part

852
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: is you go this. Yeah, but it's a bad thing

853
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: too because I gotta I got a problem now, Like

854
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: I get this, I get this jacket right, and they

855
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: got it and green gold and I'm getting give me

856
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: all of those, you know what I'm saying. And my

857
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: wife be like, babe, you only gonna wear one of them.

858
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: You ain't got it.

859
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 3: So so you got more stuff in your wife.

860
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got a problem, but you got you.

861
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 5: And you got your own store too though, right with

862
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 5: your Pops number. How did you get that was? Remember

863
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 5: when you announced that that was dope? How did you

864
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 5: that was something that you said? Uh? I think I

865
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 5: remember reading an article about that you always wanted to

866
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 5: have like a shoe store.

867
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: That was like ever since I was a kid, Like

868
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: I said, I was one of the Jordan's and all

869
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: this stuff. And once I got to that, you know,

870
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: it was in high school, you get playing on depending

871
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: on what circuits was playing on. For me, it was Adidas,

872
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: so I was getting all the T max and uh,

873
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Kobe's crazy gates. I had like two hundred and fifty

874
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: pair of shoes in high school. And when I got

875
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: to like a junior to sing. I was getting everything,

876
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: so I was like, damn, like start selling it. My

877
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: brother would start selling and stuff, and then it was like, yo,

878
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: we gotta come up. We got we gotta get a

879
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: sneaker store. And then my brother was telling my that

880
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: two and after that, my pops are stuck with it

881
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: and the land that my grandparents used to live on,

882
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: my pops ended up building a sneaker store on that property.

883
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: So it was dope because it's a way for me

884
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: to big up my family without them coming to me

885
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: for money, so they can work for the investing in them.

886
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: So it's like I can put them in situations to

887
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: where they ain't got it. They still feel like they work,

888
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: and they don't got to feel like they and they

889
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: ain't gota feel like they're doing this or that, and

890
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: they could just, you know what I mean, work for

891
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: their own, work for themselves, and we all own the

892
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: piece of It's not like it's just me.

893
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 5: Like they asked you for money, getting to pay they

894
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: earn for sure.

895
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: Dope, me let me ask you this.

896
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: One of my favorite cars that I put together was

897
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: a sixty three Pontiac Grandville drop Top on thirties just

898
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: before thirties, thirties.

899
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: Even came out like they used to spend it like

900
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 4: a man.

901
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Around talking and I had that that that big truck

902
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: kit where it was lifted up and you can just

903
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: walk up under it. I've seen something that I don't

904
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: know if it's true that you own it, but man

905
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: I showed wanted it what I think it was a bank, Oh,

906
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: the armor armor truck, the armored truck.

907
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 4: Then it wasn't.

908
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: It was never mine. My man had.

909
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: I thought that joint was so dope.

910
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: I was like that you see, like the dupe.

911
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: You feel.

912
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 4: I was like, they get the shooting outside the club.

913
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: He really went about the dupot right.

914
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: It was crazy because my man was talking about it right,

915
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: so me, my man was talking about it. We took

916
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: one of the books. I think the Knicks had the d.

917
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: Always locker rooms.

918
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: I was taking the joint back to the crib one day.

919
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm chilling sitting the chilling looking. I'm like, damn, that

920
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: joint is dope. It was like, Yo, that's crazy because

921
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about getting one. And like a

922
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: week later he pulled up downtown meat packing District with it.

923
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, let me get in that I think

924
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: somebody took a picture when social media just started getting crazy,

925
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: and then they posted. Everybody said it was my but

926
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: it was my man Joe. That joon was dope. Yeah,

927
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: it looked hard. I thought it was. I was like, man,

928
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: I want one that joint. I heard you got an

929
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: exclusive call collection. Man, you like call I'm a call

930
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: over man. And what what's what's like your favorite girl

931
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: that you like? Who's your favorite lady? My favorite lady?

932
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: I still got it. That's my championship card. That's you

933
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: know what, that's the that's what I bought on my

934
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: check f twelve at twelve forerur.

935
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: At that Mike Lowry.

936
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, red joke, go round, red screws on that thing.

937
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: That's my lady right here.

938
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: My wife reminiscent like this girl with white wife.

939
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: She do, man, should be getting judged. I tell her

940
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: that's mistress right there. She was like, where are you going?

941
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm just going out with the fellas.

942
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: You're taking your mistress with you?

943
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 3: You know it?

944
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: Crack that joint right, Yeah, that's my baby right there.

945
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: Though, in your opinion, when you play with a whole

946
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 5: bunther of dope dudes, his teammates.

947
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: Like.

948
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: Summertime practice whatever, Like who you think the best dude?

949
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 5: You could say you beating in a one on one,

950
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: whether it was after practice, whether it was before, whether

951
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 5: it was in the summer and workouts or whatever.

952
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: Who liked the dopest dude.

953
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: See, I play against everybody, and I don't lose one

954
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: on one. I can't take for sure because some of

955
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: them being shoot Mellow. I never played AI one on one.

956
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: That's the only thing. That's one one of my biggest regrets.

957
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: I never got a chance to really play in one

958
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: on one. But I beat Mellow one on one. Chauncey

959
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: I used to be CP because he was just too small.

960
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: He used to be mad as hell. Bd nah be

961
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: the be. He's the one person I didn't get that

962
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: that offbeat trouble ship he got, man. He got that

963
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: diddy bop bro right here, that year bro every time.

964
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: And he got that spin too.

965
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: Man.

966
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 5: That's because he got that. He got the fat boy.

967
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 5: The fat boy got the spin. You know fat boys

968
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: Booty bumped a little bit with spind and you can't

969
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 5: do that.

970
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: We can't do nothing with it.

971
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 7: Bro.

972
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, every I mean, for one carry, I beat

973
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: carry carry good, But it's a certain way you got

974
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: to play carry. You knowing after playing with him and

975
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: seeing him play other people one on one study I studied,

976
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: but me and him and something to play one on

977
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: one a lot. I think that's what got our individual

978
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: defense up. He got the arsenal. I'm not gonna lie to.

979
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 5: You telling people all the time like he got the

980
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 5: he got the craziest him.

981
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: Doing the game, for sure, in the craziest below the rim.

982
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: Finished game.

983
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, like.

984
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: Other than other than like crazy athletic ability as far

985
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: as duncan and finishing at the rim. He's for me,

986
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: between between him and like almost like a contino, it's

987
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: like toughest people to guard ever because he got everything.

988
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. If you tall, he's gonna

989
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: take you outside, he's gonna shake you to death. If

990
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: you small, he's gonna take you in the post. He can,

991
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: he can shoot the mid ring. He shoots the three,

992
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: all both of them off the dribble an stand still,

993
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: he's ninety percent free throw shooter. Finished at the room,

994
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: left hand and right hand. Like what you're gonna do.

995
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: Nothing, Get on this busy.

996
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna take everybody like we're just gonna watch, like

997
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: come on, I'm like, man, I remember I playing Katino

998
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: the first year. I'm like, yo, this dude is giving

999
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: me the blues.

1000
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: It took probably about the first year. Like my best friend,

1001
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: every time I play him, he would have to tell me,

1002
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 5: don't let him strip because you know, like me, I

1003
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 5: used to punish people straight. So cat he's stripped. He

1004
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: used to take all of it. Poo, I'm hearing on

1005
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: hitting as soon as I go to turn. Soon as

1006
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: I go to turn, little flick, just flick out. I'll

1007
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: be hot. I feel like he was personally responsible for

1008
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: me taking my post game to the next level to

1009
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: where like, okay, now I'm about to show you little dudes,

1010
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 5: y'all can't just wait for me to turn, like he

1011
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 5: was the one who made me. Now when I turn,

1012
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 5: I'm keeping this thing here, and if you come I'm.

1013
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: Bing your whole.

1014
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: You're not gonna come in there because now your face

1015
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: is gonna get it.

1016
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: But boom, he'll poke it. He'll do all this.

1017
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: Then he stopped trying to like when I'm punishing, like

1018
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: now i'ma just step back off touch.

1019
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, he made me figure

1020
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: out a lot of stuff.

1021
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: James Horden got a lot of stuff.

1022
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: But if he go and have a session with Katino,

1023
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: mobs and stuff, I see stuff that Katino used to do.

1024
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: With the left still doing James add to it.

1025
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, still I still life, Uncle juw.

1026
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Cooking.

1027
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: You played with a lot of bucket gellers and Kyrie's

1028
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: as mellow. Who is somebody that when nobody expected to

1029
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: be like man, that boy there is a walking buck

1030
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: bucket getter, but he never.

1031
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: Got the chance to everybody don't see how you see it?

1032
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: Like man, he a walking bucket get the world wind

1033
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: probably know since you played with the ones that the

1034
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: world know. Who was that one that like maybe in

1035
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: high school or or you know just coming up that

1036
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: you knew just like man, this.

1037
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Man my favorite player all time.

1038
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: What one Wagons scored fifty, NIKEE scored fifty. They made

1039
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: the three pass I was there. This man went off

1040
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 1: for fifty and after the game it was like three

1041
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: passes before you shoot changed the whole.

1042
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: Game of like the wine Wagner.

1043
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: That's what I said, That's what I told you last time.

1044
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: He said he I ever would have got a chance

1045
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: to play. He was when he when they did play,

1046
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: he was going twenty five to thirty points, easy.

1047
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: Athletics.

1048
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 3: He was like a big.

1049
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: Like a bigger.

1050
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: He was coming like he was off.

1051
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, man, look at that straight.

1052
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: From Camden, New Jersey.

1053
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: We played, he seem like he was off the yall

1054
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: all the small he was in the Project every time

1055
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: we played the seven six right across the bridge and.

1056
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: Came right across the bridge over that joint, like man,

1057
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: we're going. I think I loved about him too, like

1058
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: not only the player and the person he is, but

1059
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: he took everybody with him. I used to go watch

1060
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: him play. And when I tell you, it seemed like

1061
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: all of Camden was in that gym, all of them

1062
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: was in there. I don't care. Way he's playing that

1063
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: New York, Philly Jersey. Wherever he going. They got school

1064
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: buses of the whole cant the wine wagoner.

1065
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Man, that's my that's my guy.

1066
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: Man.

1067
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: Man. We used to walk in Project houses.

1068
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: He was like, man, everybody door open, We know each other,

1069
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: were like husins whole project.

1070
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: For sure.

1071
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: We got this game, but it's not a game.

1072
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: It's a segment, a little part that we like to

1073
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: do called better today or better the night so.

1074
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 5: Better than the nineties or now the handshakes and stuff

1075
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 5: the players doing on the court better than that, they

1076
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: way better. Hey, I would Hey, I think I think

1077
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: the whole population was upset when Cameron Payne got traded

1078
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 5: from OKC.

1079
00:49:53,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: Man literally used to be impressed, like, yo, it's going

1080
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: all the way, Like like.

1081
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: I had to believe that. It had to be some

1082
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: type of off the top of the head. They had

1083
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: somebody coming up with that. Ain't nobody y'all to coming

1084
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: to every day? Now we're gonna do this? They was,

1085
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: They were telling that joke. I remember I was watching

1086
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: that one day, Charlie going away with this Russell excuse me.

1087
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 5: Hey got a little I'm telling you. Westbrook is my

1088
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: favorite just because of the way, like the nastiness, like

1089
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: I don't care saying something when I get on the court.

1090
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 5: It's me against everybody. I was like, Okay, I'm still rolling.

1091
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: Like he had, you know somebody made to clarify obviously,

1092
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: ain't me against my teammates?

1093
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: Okay, Cools, it's me in the ball. I was like,

1094
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 5: but what about uh?

1095
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: Haircuts better now in the nineties.

1096
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: Nineties these dudes cuts right, now going crazy, bro, it's

1097
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: out of hand.

1098
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 5: Nappy head and a lot of the stuff they're doing

1099
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: is emulating the nineties now anyway in a way, but

1100
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 5: not the nappy heads.

1101
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 3: Come outside looking happy.

1102
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: Man, that's the style.

1103
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm going to the barber shop seven am with pops like, Yo,

1104
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: come on, we're going now brot school, No, we're going

1105
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: now cut right for sure over there?

1106
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: You know that.

1107
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: Just sleep.

1108
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: Better in the nineties or now R and B music

1109
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: you're thinking too long?

1110
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Nineties?

1111
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: That was too long.

1112
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: I was. I was trying to you know, R and

1113
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: B music right now? Yeah, I was trying to think,

1114
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: like who's the.

1115
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: Right It's like everything you gotta have a rapper.

1116
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: Jack queis queis is a problem? He might be right now.

1117
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean he's who else is really going?

1118
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 4: Who else is good?

1119
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: I ain't heard nothing from trade in a minute. That's

1120
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: my man too, I ain't heard I need some music,

1121
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Tuel he rocked when enough music. It's hard to beat that, boys, man.

1122
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying it's no longer like you don't come out

1123
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 5: with an R and B at the R and B artists,

1124
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 5: you don't see them come out with just straight Every

1125
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 5: dude to come out with an R and B album,

1126
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 5: you gonna have like three features with like rap dudes

1127
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 5: on it. You get a straight R and B just

1128
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 5: all R and B. Jones, you just about Frankers with

1129
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 5: front to back, no features, no no only features. Might

1130
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: be a singer or something with them, you know what

1131
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: I'm saying. To do it, but like now everything gotta

1132
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 5: be like you gotta have a club banger, you gotta

1133
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: have a stupid base beat that you gotta have his

1134
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: hip hop.

1135
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Like even Drake, Drake had that one. I would to

1136
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: here two two albums and one or something like that.

1137
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: He had one singing and one.

1138
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: He don't matter. He ain't yet he could put whatever.

1139
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 5: Like people got opinions and all this. We had these

1140
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 5: debates and everything. People opinionated about him.

1141
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Not look here, bro, the kid ain't missed.

1142
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: So let me let me ask you all, this is

1143
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: Drake in your top five or what rapper? Rappers?

1144
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 6: Hm?

1145
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 5: That's a I mean that's a that's a different point

1146
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: because I feel like he's not just I feel like

1147
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 5: he got he got kind of like a rapper and

1148
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 5: singer type thing. It's not just like he a rapper,

1149
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 5: Like he's like musicians like he called like just you

1150
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, But he ain't missed whichever way

1151
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: you want.

1152
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: To put he ain't missed.

1153
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 5: Some talking about just albums, I don't know an album

1154
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 5: that I can't listen to that he get in some

1155
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: type of way of form of fashion, Like I could

1156
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 5: listen to every album to fully appreciate.

1157
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Him, like I can.

1158
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: I can kind of with my kids and it won't

1159
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: be it won't be cussing, and I can still get

1160
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: my wrap in.

1161
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: And you could play like he wanted the dudes to.

1162
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Like he can.

1163
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 5: He can go across a lot of different settings, like

1164
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: you can play him at the park, at the barbecue,

1165
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 5: at the with the kids, you could play, he could sing.

1166
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 3: Along, you can play with the girls.

1167
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 5: The girls gonna rock with him, you like, he can

1168
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: go with a lot of different moods, you.

1169
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, can cover a lot of basics.

1170
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: Better in the nineties or now the n B A.

1171
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 6: Period nineties with the money, the money, money, I mean money.

1172
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as the game, I think the game

1173
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: is better in the nineties because I don't want to

1174
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: me personally, I don't want to see nobody scoring them

1175
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: at two hundred points.

1176
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: Bro, that's crazy.

1177
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 5: You won't know what I like though what I like

1178
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 5: it's different now as far as comparison in the nineties

1179
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 5: to now, I felt like in the nineties, like fan

1180
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 5: bases had their teams for like seven to eight years,

1181
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 5: like when you had like you.

1182
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: Know, going everywhere. So why Dumars and Vinnie Johnson and that.

1183
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: Whole group for like ever forever you saw the oldest

1184
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 5: store of Queen and all of them and King forever

1185
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 5: saw Worthy and magic them forever.

1186
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: Fact, you know what.

1187
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like you saw Like I feel like that's

1188
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 5: long gone.

1189
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: But it's like it's to the point that had some

1190
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: bars gets traded in the middle of the game during

1191
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: during the game, in the game, they come out, you

1192
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: shut you out, like all right, I'm gonna get this break. Hey, bro,

1193
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: just want you to we traded you.

1194
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 5: So So first of all, I was thinking about that.

1195
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 5: Me and my my boy talked about it. I was like, Yo,

1196
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 5: I'm torn. I don't know whether I would have got

1197
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: up god dressed, came and sat in the out and

1198
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 5: got me a bud light and enjoyed to get Like what.

1199
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: Do you do in that situation?

1200
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Say they say he knew before the game, and he

1201
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: he just chose to play. He knew it was a

1202
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: possibility that that was gonna happen, so he chose to play.

1203
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if it's a possibility, I'm definitely gonna

1204
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: play it.

1205
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: He decided to play it all the way out with

1206
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: his team. If they trade him, he was gonna gonna

1207
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: do it. But he shouldn't have played. He should have

1208
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: and other teams should have held him out like they did.

1209
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: They're doing that players.

1210
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have allowed him to play. That was that's crazy.

1211
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 5: Like if you know for a fact that you are

1212
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 5: right here almost completing the deal, you're supposed to pull

1213
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 5: that in, right, for sure, you're supposed to pour that.

1214
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: Man, Like the same people who cut you let you

1215
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: practice and all this other stuff and didn't cut you

1216
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: like you knew I was cuting for practice. You just

1217
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: needed an extra body.

1218
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: You might just want a person to be real, I

1219
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: can't do nothing about it if that's the decision the

1220
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: organization made. But what's what's so hard? And you can

1221
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: and hollered at man just being a man, or just

1222
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: telling me to.

1223
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: My face, like what it is, right, that's My only

1224
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: thing with the league, Like with people, you're gonna put

1225
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: somebody in that position, uh power, give put somebody in

1226
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: the position of power who is confrontational, because that's a

1227
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: confrontational spot. You're gonna be in some confrontational positions. Don't

1228
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: put somebody who's gonna sit there and avoid me when

1229
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: I ask you a question.

1230
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: Because what you said is the perfect thing. That is

1231
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: a confrontational position.

1232
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: For sure.

1233
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: You can't have somebody in that position who, like I

1234
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: don't want to.

1235
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: You gotta have somebody in that position who's gonna be

1236
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 5: transparent and shoot straight. Always shut the truth, because at

1237
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 5: the end of the day, we all gonna respect the truth.

1238
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: Truth is what it is. It can't be changed.

1239
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 5: Don't shoot you know what I'm saying, don't shut the message.

1240
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 5: Message It is the truth. I can't change it up.

1241
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: And you want to be a lied to you or

1242
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 5: you want the truth, I'm gonna deal with the truth

1243
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 5: and be straight with that fact, no matter how brutal

1244
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 5: it is, no matter you kept.

1245
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: As long as you're telling me I'm good all that

1246
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1247
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: Telling me, hey we could talk later, then you be gone,

1248
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: be busier. You can't talk like, nah, bro, just talk,

1249
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 5: just you shouldn't be in that position if you can't

1250
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 5: do that for sure, Like that's the perfect thing.

1251
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: On there's too much of that in the in the game,

1252
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: like in the situation I'm in with the Cavs right now,

1253
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm obviously absent from the team and it's like, all right,

1254
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: if y'all. First of all, y'all didn't want to tell

1255
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: me this. You called my agent when I was just

1256
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: at the gym to tell him this week like I was.

1257
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: You just see me. I practiced it, kicked everybody else

1258
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: at my position and everything and doing all this. But

1259
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: y'all want to lose and get picked, And I'm all right, cool,

1260
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: non't knock against that. That's what you want to do,

1261
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. But don't knock me

1262
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: for wanting to win, you know what I'm saying. And

1263
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: that's cool to like, that's the way you want to

1264
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: go and as an organization and all of that. Cool,

1265
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: Let that be that. But you could have told me this.

1266
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: You know what, man, I don't want to put you

1267
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: in this position. What you've done for us in the

1268
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: team and what the team's done for you in your career, whatever, whatever,

1269
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: it's best for both parties to step away until we

1270
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: work out a deal.

1271
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: And no d.

1272
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: Me telling you that, you know I could respect that,

1273
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: no problem, Absolutely cool. You're gonna call my agent and

1274
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: then tell him to tell me just.

1275
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: Seeing like two seconds you talk. What's up man?

1276
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: You're looking good? Everything's good, like in good shape.

1277
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just And then they say that's professional.

1278
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: Right, oh, you got to be professional? What's professional at

1279
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: this point?

1280
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: But the th and then the thing that this is

1281
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 5: the part though, the thing that makes you like, what

1282
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 5: did you think I was gonna do something to you?

1283
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: If you told me you thought I was gonna beat

1284
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: you up? We're not about to fight.

1285
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: That's the problem with men as species. We don't communicate

1286
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: with our problems. A female can have a problem with

1287
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: a female sit there and tell everything that she got

1288
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: a problem with. She can accept that and say, wow,

1289
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: I got a problem with this. That. And the third man,

1290
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: it's gotta man, what's up what you're trying to do?

1291
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1292
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: There ain't nothing personal, just how I feel you cannot

1293
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: like me and I cannot like you trust me. Three

1294
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: billion other people in this planet I can get along

1295
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: with it perfectly. I don't have to be friends with you.

1296
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, this is my job.

1297
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: I understand this is your job. But in your job,

1298
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: I feel as though you should be honest with me,

1299
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: just like I'm being honest with you. If I can't,

1300
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: if I feel like I can't play tonight and my

1301
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: shit hurting or whatever whatever I'm gonna tell you, I

1302
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: can't listen, And as hard as it's gonna be for me,

1303
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: because that's not who I am and not how I

1304
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: grew up playing with dog, I don't want to put

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: the team in a bad position because I'm gonna be

1306
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: out there limping and all this other shit. Nah me

1307
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: me knowing me, I'm gonna do it. But at the

1308
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: same time, I'm not gonna put you all through it

1309
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: in no bad situation to when you're losing the game

1310
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: that we're gonna might end up needing at the end

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01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You lose respect for people.

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you respect everybody. You

1314
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: should respect to everybody, because you give respect because you

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: want to have respect back. But then when people be

1316
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: doing just sneaky sisey stuff.

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: It'll be like I lose all the respect.

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you lost me there

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01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: because I respect you enough to sit here and tell

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01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: you to your face what it is, right, we should

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01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: respect me enough to regardss to what it is. Tell

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: me like a man, and I can respect that and all.

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 4: That's how That's how I was great.

1324
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 5: Man. My daddy told me, you looking man, and I

1325
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: you always keep eye contact with somebody. Not having eye

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01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 5: contact with you, they don't respect you, or if you're

1327
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 5: not looking at them, you disrespecting them. So for me,

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 5: my situation with Lando is basically the same way. I mean,

1329
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 5: training camp, you know what I'm saying. I see him

1330
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 5: seeing y'all people every day and y'all get basically the

1331
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 5: same thing. That's like, I'm gonna call him because maybe

1332
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 5: if I talk to him, he might he might slap

1333
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 5: me up in here something I don't know what you

1334
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 5: think gonna happen or whatever it is. And then, like

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 5: you said, from you go from there to now, I'm

1336
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: gonna avoid you.

1337
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm a I'm gonna.

1338
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 5: Literally be side eyed and like he like you know

1339
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, literally be doing that and they're trying

1340
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 5: to avoid you, like, come on, bro, like you we

1341
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 5: all men.

1342
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: That's the worst you know that he avoid you and

1343
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: he looking at him in the gym lifted and I

1344
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: see you walking boss speaking everybody. Yo, what's up?

1345
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: Brother?

1346
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: You like me or not? I don't care. Still speak,

1347
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: You're still speaking like that's just who I am. I'm

1348
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: in there lifting all I could see right or see

1349
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: you hurry up and turn around like I'm about to

1350
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: ask you for money or something bad.

1351
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 5: Serious, like just like you said, people like that, that

1352
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 5: ain't the job for you, bro, No, those are Those

1353
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 5: are the teams and the organizations that don't be getting

1354
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: it right and to be having all types of crazies

1355
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 5: because you gotta have them. People that's in those positions

1356
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 5: gonna be stay fast and strong about what your organization represents,

1357
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 5: and they gonna represent it the right way because once

1358
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 5: they don't, it's.

1359
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 4: A trickle effect.

1360
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 5: Like I'm telling you, one of the best organizations I've

1361
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 5: been a part of with Miami, and it's because it's

1362
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: straight up and down like six o'clock from the top

1363
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: of that.

1364
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: And when I tell you like it.

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01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 5: Ain't gonna be no argument with me in the train,

1366
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: or me and the equipment guy, or me and this guy,

1367
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: because they all gonna tell you the same thing.

1368
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: You got a problem with the way things go.

1369
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 5: It's an open door policy up there with Pat go

1370
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 5: talk to and as you can see, it don't matter

1371
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 5: who came through the door, from Shack to.

1372
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: Lebron to whoever.

1373
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: It is what it is, and they they are the

1374
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 5: way they are and that's why they're a great organization

1375
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 5: because we're not gonna be in the break for nobody.

1376
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: You know it. We all know.

1377
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 5: We all been there when you being in break for

1378
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 5: one somebody looking at you like why you let him

1379
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 5: do it?

1380
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 3: Though? Like you let him you know what I'm saying.

1381
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: You know it, you know it.

1382
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 5: And they don't be in the break, bro, And that's

1383
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 5: why they get the caveyard and they get respected and

1384
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 5: they get the results they get.

1385
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: For sure, this right here is a good question for

1386
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 4: you because this is crazy.

1387
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: We asked this question to you know, other interviewers and uh,

1388
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: you actually played with these two people there the biggest

1389
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: influence impact AI or Lebron.

1390
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was quick with it to think about

1391
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: it a little bit about it.

1392
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: Really, No, no, but from where I'm were if we

1393
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: come from, and the impact AI, for sure, le Bron

1394
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: is more globally.

1395
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 5: That's partially because of where the game is going. That's

1396
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: why coming I follow up comming was to be if

1397
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 5: if if AI came along in this same social media time,

1398
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: it ain't even a conversation. But I mean and the

1399
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 5: then the then the difference is like what Lebron has

1400
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 5: done as far as like impacting the kids as far

1401
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 5: as building schools and putting them through school, like that's

1402
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: on the whole nother planet, just as far as like basketball,

1403
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 5: just as far as like their impact without dealing with

1404
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 5: what they did with charities and just their impact of them.

1405
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: A changed clothes for us, truly, they had they had

1406
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: to put a rule in because everybody was trying to

1407
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: dress like A Jerseys through rags, braids, tax.

1408
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: People, and people don't wearing the sleeves that came from.

1409
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: AI right wearing that sleeve and they look at like,

1410
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: oh Bron wears the sleepy. I was wearing that sleep.

1411
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 4: And that's why Lebron wear for sure like everybody else

1412
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 4: been wearing.

1413
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 5: And that's why they like if they had that, if

1414
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 5: he had social media then like the fact that he

1415
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 5: was supplying so many prisons with his shoes, Like people

1416
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 5: don't know that.

1417
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: That's not like this general knowledge that everybody knows.

1418
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: But they don't want to put that out about it.

1419
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: That's fit to some he's bigger than himj for sure,

1420
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 5: like true story to some from where we come from.

1421
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1422
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 5: For everything, for all of his improfessions and all of

1423
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 5: his infractions and everything he went, people love him somewhat

1424
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 5: more so because they can relate to him more. He

1425
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like this perfect figure. It's like he's a

1426
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 5: lot like me. I mess up sometimes, but you know

1427
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like so people can relate to that.

1428
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: It's crazy because that's why I have the following and

1429
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: stuff I do, because people feel like they can relate

1430
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: to me more than they can to Bron or Mellow

1431
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: because you can't really in a sense, you can't touch them,

1432
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, the average person, you can't touch them. You

1433
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: can't go like this. I can't go like this to Lebron.

1434
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: I can't go like this to to Mellow. You see

1435
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: me walking down Fifth Avenue by myself, like it's good.

1436
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's why I get Yeah,

1437
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: like you can't some people. You just way more relatable

1438
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: that that doesn't make me higher, lower than the standard

1439
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: or whatever it is more really, Yeah, it's just feel

1440
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: like I can relate to him more. I guess it's

1441
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: depending on who he was.

1442
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: So we definitely want to give a big shot of

1443
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: my man Switch coming through aka teen Switch aka the

1444
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 5: Honey Guy.

1445
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1446
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: Christ You know what I'm saying.

1447
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 5: Came out to New York. My man jumped down with us.

1448
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: Y'all.

1449
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: Just don't get into another one the Knuckleheads.

1450
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 5: Check us out on Apple Podcasts or whever you listen, download, subscribe.

1451
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 3: We out here.

1452
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 5: We getting it in knuckleheads.

1453
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah,