1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I think the Republicans will vote for 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: an extension. We won't have any Democrat votes. We could 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: give the greatest budget ever, a tax cut of fifty percent, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: everybody taken care of, perfect for women, perfect for men, 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: perfect for minorities, perfect for everything, and we would get 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: one vote for the Democrats because they lost their minds. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: Good Thursday morning. Nice to have you with us on 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got one very 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: big and important story for you. 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Each and every day, 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: it's the forty seven Morning Update, and it starts right now. 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: Story number one. 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: Cause and effect is something that happens all the time. Well, 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: there was a major cause and effect when it came 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: to COVID nineteen and the lies that were told to 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: the American people about that vaccine and so many of 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: the regulations and rules that put us in a lockdown 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: for far too long. What happened, There's a lot of 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: people now asking more questions than ever about the CDC 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: and not trusting the CDC, not trusting them on vaccines. 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: It also brought up an even bigger point, should the 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: government be able to mandate what vaccines you have to 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: have for your kids? Well, Florida, they said they believe 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: that parents should have the rights over their children, not 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: the federal government when it comes to vaccines. Let me 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: be clear about what happened in Florida. It is not 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: in Florida, and this is very important, a ban on vaccines. 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: What Florida has now done is said parents could decide, 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: not the government, and that brings us to the big headline. 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: Liberals are losing their minds because they want the government 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: to be able to dictate to you what you have 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: to do for your children. Florida now we know plans 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: to eliminate all vaccine mandates, including those required for children 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: attending public schools. The announcement came from the Surgeon General 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: of Florida and was made during a press conference alongside 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: Governor Ron De Santis. Now, the Surgeon General describe the 79 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: mandates as oppressive and even liken them to slavery and 80 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: frame the repeal as a matter of printal choice, bodily autonomy, 81 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: and medical freedom. Florida, by the way, would become the 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: first US state to withdraw mandatory vaccination requirements entirely, marking 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: a significant shift from decades of public health policy. Now, 84 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: while the Department of Health can rescind mannate it issued administratively, 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: any vaccine requirements established by laws, such as those for polio, 86 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: measles and mumps, you know intentanus for example, will require 87 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: legislative action to quote unquote repeal. Well, the liberals their 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: minds exploded over this, as well as many in the 89 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: medical field. The American Medical Associations say that the repeal 90 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: would quote undermined decades of public health progress and dramatically 91 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: increase the risk of serious illness. Well, guess what if 92 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: you guys at the CDC and in the medical community 93 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: wouldn't have lied about the COVID vaccine and its effectiveness, 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: or the spread or masking or staying six feet a partners, 95 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: shutting down the schools, or any of the issues you 96 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: lied to us about with COVID, then we might actually 97 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: believe you on issues moving forward. But the reality is 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: Americans don't infectious disease leaders also came out warning of 99 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: likely outbreaks preventable diseases like measles and polio, especially in 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: schools and vulnerable populations. Florida Democrats echoed these concerns, with 101 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Senator Jones calling it a quote grave public health risk. 102 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: Another state senator in emphasized disease like polio could return 103 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: and that would be horrific for Florida. Now, I went 104 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: on CNN Newsnight with Abby Phillips. It was the lead story, 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: and I want you to hear how the media is 106 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: now attacking Donald Trump for this, saying that he's going 107 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: to have kids die because of a popsey. It's been 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: acted in Florida. Yes, they want to fearmonger you and 109 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: control you. Yet again, listen carefully. 110 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: Joining the conversation for this one is doctor Chris Parnell. 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: She's the director of the NAACP Center for Health Equity 112 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: and Public Health and Preventative Medicine. Physician and doctor Parnell, 113 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: you know this well. In twenty twenty, we had thirteen 114 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: cases of measles twenty twenty five, fourteen hundred, a huge 115 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: increase in whooping cough whooping cough in this country, and 116 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: at the same time, the rates of vaccine exemptions have 117 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: gone up by about a point since twenty nineteen. None 118 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: of this is by accident, none of this is by osmosis. 119 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: And now this in Florida reckless. 120 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: If I could summon up in one word, let's just 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: go to some facts, and I have them here to 122 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 5: keep myself honest. Since the last thirty years, we've saved 123 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: over one hundred and fifty million lives because of vaccines globally. 124 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: If we begin to think about in the United States, 125 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: we've saved over one point one million children due to 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: vaccination since nineteen ninety four. We've prevented five hundred and 127 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 5: eight million illnesses in thirty two million hospitalizations. That's not 128 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: anything to wink at. That's hardcore data. But what's happening 129 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: in the United States is as if we are a 130 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: runaway train. In public health, we talk about the cliff 131 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 5: of good health, and we have fallen completely off of 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: the cliff. 133 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: That's kind of what it feels like that in a way, 134 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: Ben that everybody sitting at this table, all the folks 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: in Florida, all of these people who are vaccine skeptics 136 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: now have benefited from vaccines allowing them to live their 137 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: lives without polio, without measles, and now all of a 138 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: sudden they want to pull the rug out from underneath children. 139 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: That I'm surprised by it. I mean, you have kids, 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: A lot of us do at this table, if you 141 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: lived in Florida. 142 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 6: What two things they're not outlawed. That's good. The parents 143 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: are going to decide too. 144 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 7: There's a cause and effect. 145 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 6: And the CDC lied to us about COVID and they 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 6: lied a lot. They lied about masks in school, they 147 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 6: lied about distancing, They lied about the efficiency or the 148 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 6: effectiveness of the COVID nineteen vaccine. 149 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: That's true. 150 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: It is true. 151 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 6: I said that distancing, did they did? 152 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: They not lie about. 153 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: The effective it? 154 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: Yes, if you talk about mass if we're looking at 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 5: high quality masks, If we're looking at high quality masks, right, 156 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: so I would those mass absolutely permit infections because this 157 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 5: is the way science works. Science works as you get data, 158 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: the type of communication that you give, you can't say. 159 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: You can't. 160 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: I think I actually think it's important. It's very if 161 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: you're saying things that are doing the accurate. I do 162 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: think it's fair for her to count. 163 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 7: She said that masking was effective and work when they 164 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 7: knew internal documents said, it came out that it didn't work. 165 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 6: Okay, well, what does distance said? 166 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: Misinformation and you're seeing in it at. 167 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: Are you going to are you gonna are you going 168 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: to have a conversation? Are you just going to keep talking? Look? 169 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: Hold on? 170 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: Okay. First of all, what she is disputing is youranguage 171 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: around this, which is that they lied exactly, which she's saying. 172 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: I think she's right about this is not true. There 173 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: are certain types of mass that work better than others science. 174 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is one. 175 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 7: Florida did this. Let's just what you guys don't understand 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 7: that there's a cause and effect that American people don't 177 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 7: trust this for the reasons I said. 178 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 6: You may not like that, you may not like the. 179 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: Americans don't trust the CDC because RFK Junior and I. 180 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: Got the job because people. 181 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: Hold on a second, okay, man, just give me one second. Okay, 182 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: this this Florida Surgeon General has been railing against vaccines 183 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: for a while, but he's also responsible for a lot 184 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: of misinformation. He's altered key findings in a COVID nineteen 185 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: vaccine safety study. Practice he pushed things like cures like 186 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 4: ivermectin and others for. 187 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 6: Not work. 188 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 7: Now I have doubt that shows that did work. 189 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: No, he is pushing affect Okay, Ben, are you really 190 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: going to argue with the doctor during. 191 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 7: COVID You guys screwed us and we failed miserably a vaccine. 192 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing how they're so angry that you have 193 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: parents that are going to have the right to make 194 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: a decision for their children what is best for them. 195 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: They cannot stand that the government can't dictate to the people, 196 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: at least in Florida, on the issue of vaccines. They 197 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: cannot stand to admit that the reason why this happened, 198 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: the reason why RFK Juniors and the government is because 199 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: the cause of effect of the CDC lying pathologically to 200 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: the American people every step of the way on the 201 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: issue of COVID nineteen, the effectiveness of vaccines and masking 202 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: and all the other things that I just mentioned. And 203 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: they're mad that this is happening in Florida. Now, look, 204 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: I think the people in Florida should be trusted. I 205 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: think the people in Florida should have the right to 206 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: do what's best for their children. And if the doctors 207 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: are angry that they say the science is overwhelming, that 208 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: these vaccine mandates should be a thing, Well, then they 209 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: should actually talk to their patience about it with compassion 210 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: and understanding instead of the arrogance that you just heard 211 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: right there from that doctor, condescending and frustrated of anybody 212 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: that would ever question her. As a quote doctor. You 213 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: heard it, and it's amazing that we're still even having 214 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: the conversation after. 215 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: What we witness during COVID. 216 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 217 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever 218 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: you're listening to this podcast right now and for more 219 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast 220 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here tomorrow