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Speaker 1: My man, the birthday boy Dan Rubinstein, sir, Happy birthday.
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Speaker 2: have we ever recorded on either one of our birthdays.
Speaker 1: Oh, we totally have, totally have.
Speaker 2: When did we do this? I think we did it
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Speaker 1: My birthday on November twenty third.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it usually happens around the first week in November.
Speaker 1: We hit that wall.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what did you do anything exciting for your birthday? Really?
Speaker 2: I ate food that I wanted to eat, which is
Speaker 2: kind of the same thing I do every year. I mean,
Speaker 2: I hung out with the solid Baby, which is the
Speaker 2: first time I got to do that. So that was great.
Speaker 2: I prepared for this show. I took a train ride
Speaker 2: and I rode in a car and I just had
Speaker 2: a great day ty, and it's continuing as we do
Speaker 2: the show right now.
Speaker 1: Well, excellent, welcome one and all for coming to our
Speaker 1: wonderful podcast here where we talk about college football today
Speaker 1: on the Solid Verb. Well, we're going to be doing
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Speaker 1: What is today's date, July twenty fifth. We should know this,
Speaker 1: it's your birthday. Yeah, today is in effect our last
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Speaker 2: I like it. I like the enthusiasm. May I ask
Speaker 2: you a question before we get into please anything?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Have you taken anything from I laugh as I say
Speaker 2: this from any of the media days. Is there anything
Speaker 2: that jumped out to you impact twelves taking the championship
Speaker 2: game to Vegas eventually once they build that stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think LSU. There's a bunch of stadiums that might
Speaker 2: start selling alcohol, but LSU is one of them. Anything
Speaker 2: at all. On the preseason All Conference Teams on what
Speaker 2: coaches had to say, Chris Peterson said, I don't know,
Speaker 2: is there anything that really stood out to you?
Speaker 1: The Vegas thing stood out to me a little bit, Okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm not you know, to be honest, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why. Right, It's just like another place. And obviously
Speaker 1: there's a whole industry built around gambling in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: which makes it a bit unique, but otherwise it's just
Speaker 1: sort of any other place. The fact that they would
Speaker 1: have a game there shouldn't be a big deal, and
Speaker 1: probably isn't a big deal, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: still feels a little bit different. And I did see
Speaker 1: one thing that stood out, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it came from media days or somewhere else, but that
Speaker 1: Colorado might be playing some really early games this year.
Speaker 1: Did you see that.
Speaker 2: I saw that it was what eleven Mountain time or
Speaker 2: even ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very early.
Speaker 2: That is early. That to me, I mean that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me stood out a little bit because
Speaker 1: we're always talking on this show, and I know you
Speaker 1: spoke at length about the fact that the Pack twelve
Speaker 1: needs to be a little bit more front stage center,
Speaker 1: needs to be a little bit more self aware about
Speaker 1: the fact that the time zone puts them at a
Speaker 1: distinct disadvantage.
Speaker 2: Nine am Pacific time kickoffs, so nine am local for
Speaker 2: most of the schools, so that's noon Eastern, which is
Speaker 2: when college football has begun, just not Pack twelve football.
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's a little kid soccer kickoff
Speaker 2: time as long as there are orange slices. I guess
Speaker 2: that's that's a lot to ask. I mean, what is
Speaker 2: this the body clock they're just steering fully into it, right,
Speaker 2: because that's the excuse that I guess was given about
Speaker 2: Stateford with who they lose to Northwestern and an ugly
Speaker 2: Northwest to go. Yes, so I guess they're really steering
Speaker 2: into the body clock thing and scheduling Hawaii. I don't
Speaker 2: know where the advantage is going to be by a
Speaker 2: nine am game, other than so you'll get more exposure
Speaker 2: because it's not like every week the ACC is putting
Speaker 2: its absolute best game at noon and the SEC isn't
Speaker 2: putting its absolute best game at noon, so hypothetically your
Speaker 2: competition is a little bit lesser. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if that makes people on the East Coast more likely
Speaker 2: to watch PAC twelve football. I think still, as I've maintained,
Speaker 2: it's just about quality at the top. People will watch Oregon.
Speaker 2: If Oregon's excellent, people will watch USC. If USC is excellent,
Speaker 2: people will watch That might be it. But but now
Speaker 2: if you with UCLA and Ship Kelly are excellent, if Washington,
Speaker 2: you know, develops into a more exciting, offensive brand, sure
Speaker 2: people will watch those teams. That's just going to take
Speaker 2: more than where they are right now. So that's where
Speaker 2: they stand. Also, the Vegas thing. Do you know how
Speaker 2: the capacity of the stadium that I don't think is
Speaker 2: built yet or fully built. The capacity is sixty five
Speaker 2: thousand big stadium. You think you think you're filling that
Speaker 2: with like Washington USC? Maybe do you think you're filling
Speaker 2: that with I don't know. I'm trying to be reasonable
Speaker 2: and realistic here are you feeling that with Washington Utah?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: No, we had last year? Ah, it's a big stadium.
Speaker 1: Half sixty five thousands of a big stadium. You can thirty
Speaker 1: k It's not big compared to Michigan or Tennessee.
Speaker 2: But you're attracting more people to Vegas and Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but in a place that doesn't have any kind
Speaker 1: of deep college football culture. I mean, no disrespect to UNLV.
Speaker 1: Sixty five thousands of that's a that's a pretty heavy
Speaker 1: li It's easy.
Speaker 2: It's easy to get to, hotels are reasonable. People want
Speaker 2: to go to there, right. You know it's going to
Speaker 2: be warmer than it is in eastern Washington, northern California
Speaker 2: and the desert. So I understand the move more so,
Speaker 2: I just you know, I have complicated feelings about conference
Speaker 2: championship games and the PAC twelve going Away from Home sites,
Speaker 2: it's all it's all fine.
Speaker 1: All right, So here is the deal on today's show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations, Skippy, you've got.
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Speaker 1: and A before we actually get into real hard college
Speaker 1: football content. Dan, m hm. Can we just come to
Speaker 1: an agreement here before we start? Always and this is
Speaker 1: this is entirely selfish of me. Okay, can we come
Speaker 1: to an agreement? No edits tonight?
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, definitely? Okay.
Speaker 1: Who wants no Ties day job whatever? Who wants not
Speaker 1: going there? Whatever happens happens on this show. I'm not
Speaker 1: cutting any out.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: If you're confident with that, so am I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, If you're confident with everybody knowing that Tie is
Speaker 2: an executive at Cradle Jones, then I am too. Sounds
Speaker 2: good to me.
Speaker 1: All right, where do you want to go first?
Speaker 2: Here? Let's start with the question that lives atop our
Speaker 2: document here, Okay, which is more realistic, more realistic, not likely,
Speaker 2: more realistic Michigan going undefeated this year or Ohio State
Speaker 2: losing three games. That's from Andrew.
Speaker 1: This is an incredibly interesting question. Thank you, Andrew. I
Speaker 1: thought long and hard about this one, and here here's
Speaker 1: the dilemma that I have. The dilemma is that it's
Speaker 1: really hard to be undefeated. I don't care who you are.
Speaker 1: You could have the easiest schedule in college football and
Speaker 1: still very very difficult to go twelve and zero. But
Speaker 1: then you look at Ohio State's roster and there's just
Speaker 1: so much talent. I know that Urban Meyer is no
Speaker 1: longer the coach, and it's Ryan Day. And Ryan Day
Speaker 1: was pretty good at the first I don't know chunk
Speaker 1: of last year, right, but I can't see them losing
Speaker 1: three games at all.
Speaker 2: There's just so much talent there.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the Big Tenniece is pretty good, and you know
Speaker 1: there could be a couple teams that sneak up on
Speaker 1: the buck Eyes. But if I'm picking the more realistic
Speaker 1: of the two, I am almost inclined to go to twelve
Speaker 1: In oh Michigan.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go the opposite way. Was Maryland excuse me?
Speaker 2: Was Ohio State a sneeze and a half away from
Speaker 2: losing to Maryland? Yes? And Penn State? Yes? How many
Speaker 2: losses would that have given them in the regular season
Speaker 2: last year? Two?
Speaker 1: More?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lose to Purdue, right, So it's three total,
Speaker 2: And that's what this question is asking. So it's not
Speaker 2: unrealistic that Ohio State loses three games last season with
Speaker 2: what we presume to be a better quarterback and at
Speaker 2: different parts of this defense, even though he missed the
Speaker 2: majority of the year, Nick Bosa the line, it's a
Speaker 2: little bit better. So I think it is Ohio State losing.
Speaker 2: It's easier to lose games than it is to go undefeated, right, generally, Yes,
Speaker 2: there are more things. It's hard to stumble into wins
Speaker 2: every week, but you can stumble into a couple losses.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, right, absolutely, and especially on the Ohio State side
Speaker 1: of things. So everyone knows about justin fields being starting, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no different team, okay, But Ohio State and Michigan are
Speaker 1: sort of like the inverse of one another. If you
Speaker 1: look at their returning talent, Ohio State has a lot
Speaker 1: of turnover on defense and it's going to take them
Speaker 1: a little bit, presumably to figure out who goes where.
Speaker 1: Clearly they've recruited very well over the last five years.
Speaker 1: That's not going to be an issue. But could a
Speaker 1: team sneak up on them? Sure, I just there's so
Speaker 1: much talent there. Dan, I have a really hard time
Speaker 1: convincing myself that it's more realistic that they lose three games.
Speaker 2: I look at the mission schedule.
Speaker 1: Michigan schedule I think is a little bit harder than
Speaker 1: Ohio States this year. Obviously they've got that Notre Dame game.
Speaker 1: You look at the way it lays out, Otherwise it
Speaker 1: is a little bit harder. I still feel a little
Speaker 1: bit comfortable, more comfortable if I'm picking between the two
Speaker 1: going Michigan in this particular scenario.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm curious. I'm still curious about Michigan. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of questions to me about but I'm saying the
Speaker 2: more realistic one is to me Ohio State losing those games.
Speaker 2: They lost what six games the year before? Urban Meyer
Speaker 2: shout up, Luke Fickel, all right. On that similar note,
Speaker 2: what is the most intriguing G five versus P five matchup?
Speaker 2: This year? Also from Andrew shout out Andrew Good.
Speaker 1: Questions, Well, I guess Army isn't technically a G five,
Speaker 1: but can we include.
Speaker 2: Them in this question? Army a G five, they're an independent, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not technically a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, non power five. Power five talked a lot. We've
Speaker 2: talked a lot about Army. Michigan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that game is again keyword intriguing. That game's intriguing
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: All right, get away from Michigan. I'll go I'll run
Speaker 2: through some of these.
Speaker 1: I've got another one here, but go ahead, run through
Speaker 1: some other options.
Speaker 2: Fresno State, USC new quarterback, Fresno State, USC new offense, Ole,
Speaker 2: Miss Memphis. If you like shootouts, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: That one's intrigument I thought about that one.
Speaker 2: U QB for all Miss. I assume Brady White for
Speaker 2: the four hundred and eleventh year for Memphis, Florida State,
Speaker 2: Boise State.
Speaker 1: That's the one I have tone setter. By the way,
Speaker 1: according to our friend Bill Connolly, Boise State will be
Speaker 1: favored in that game. It's a neutral cider ish ish
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville at TIAA Creft Stadium or something of the ILK.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know if the line you're supposed
Speaker 2: to take medication for Tiaa Crefts. It could be true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, according to Bill's numbers, Boise would be a one
Speaker 1: point six point favorite in that game. I think by
Speaker 1: the time it kicks off, obviously, Florida State is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be more of the hometown favorite. But that that's
Speaker 1: the one that I have circled here as the most intriguing.
Speaker 2: Got Lincoln Riley and Dana holgo to Houston, Oklahoma. We
Speaker 2: have Cincinnati, Ohio State. What will Justin Fields look like
Speaker 2: presumably Justin Fields against a very very good Cincinnati defense,
Speaker 2: Washington State, Houston Mother Holgerson, Leech. So we got all
Speaker 2: sorts of the air Raid disciples and the actual Leach
Speaker 2: Stanford UCF Wimbush.
Speaker 1: That could be interesting. Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 2: I'm State North Carolina app State I believe is winless
Speaker 2: since they became an FBS team against Power five programs
Speaker 2: and UCF pitt which do not watch the highlights from
Speaker 2: last year. It is ugly. My answer is in terms
Speaker 2: of storylines, in terms of tone setting, for the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, it's still gonna be Florida Stateise State,
Speaker 2: even though I thought last year Boise stateed Oklahoma State
Speaker 2: was gonna matter a lot more than it actually ended
Speaker 2: up mattering so selfishly for pure entertainment reasons. If Derek
Speaker 2: King has healed to a nice place, I am most
Speaker 2: excited to just as a TV show watch Houston, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure enough, Okay, Yeah, a couple interesting ones in here.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of storylines in that game
Speaker 2: that are interesting. Okay, pick a question, Dan, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go to ed with two d's. I love this.
Speaker 1: Will Auburn Oregon be a game to find a contender
Speaker 1: for the year or another version of Auburn Washington from
Speaker 1: last year that doesn't hold up as the year progresses.
Speaker 1: Do you remember previewing that Auburn Washington game from yeah,
Speaker 1: last season. I actually went back and looked at my document,
Speaker 1: okay to get my thoughts at the time, and look,
Speaker 1: Washington coming into the season seemed like a slam dunk
Speaker 1: coming out of.
Speaker 2: The Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Auburn was a little bit of an unknown quantity,
Speaker 1: but we knew Jared Stidham was coming back, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think in hindsight, maybe we expected a little bit
Speaker 1: more from the running game. But by and large, this
Speaker 1: seemed at the time, I think, to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a high profile, higher profile matchup than
Speaker 1: what Auburn Oregon looks to be this season. Is that
Speaker 1: fair to say?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, because of there was a storyline
Speaker 2: entering the season of like, Washington needs to win this game, right,
Speaker 2: This set the tone.
Speaker 1: This was going to be twelve, They're way to achieve
Speaker 1: that validity as an elite team.
Speaker 2: They were representing the conference in a way that was
Speaker 2: put on them that it was a little bit different
Speaker 2: than other years, not necessarily fairly, and so game was closed.
Speaker 2: There was that non call at the end that I
Speaker 2: think Jake Browning was abused on that play uh too
Speaker 2: late and it affected things. But ultimately, yes, Ed is right.
Speaker 2: This game all did not Washington wins the Pac twelve
Speaker 2: to make it to the Rose Bowl, but didn't matter
Speaker 2: because it's a non conference game. So will Auburn Oregon
Speaker 2: be that a deciding clincher for somebody to make or
Speaker 2: not make the playoff? I think is his implication. I
Speaker 2: happen to think that Oregon running the pistol has a
Speaker 2: nine wins ceiling. Okay, if they don't look decidedly different
Speaker 2: this year. If they're not a new look offense with
Speaker 2: basically the same players, they look like a nine win team.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of like what Auburn's ceiling right now
Speaker 2: looks like with the uncertainty a quarterback and now Gus
Speaker 2: Malson's taking back control of the offense west right in
Speaker 2: the SEC West. So they could be a nine and
Speaker 2: three team that looks like a ten and a half
Speaker 2: and one and a half type team. But I'm going
Speaker 2: to say one of these teams is in a playoff
Speaker 2: conversation in early November. Doesn't necessarily mean they're there at
Speaker 2: the end, but I'm saying by early November, this is
Speaker 2: like even a team that loses this game that could
Speaker 2: be their only loss.
Speaker 1: For the question itself is a bit flawed because the
Speaker 1: game last year was starting from a different point than
Speaker 1: the game this year. The expectations going into the game
Speaker 1: are different, and I think that influence is at least
Speaker 1: how I feel about it. It's a really good non
Speaker 1: conference matchup. I don't think we're going to be finding
Speaker 1: a contender. I don't think that going into the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think that coming out of the game. But
Speaker 1: so whether or not that holds up moving forward. I
Speaker 1: guess is in the eye of the beholder, But for
Speaker 1: me anyway, I just I view it as a really
Speaker 1: interesting early season barometer for where these teams are at.
Speaker 1: Auburn obviously new starting quarterback, Oregon trying to do some
Speaker 1: different stuff. It's interesting on a number of levels, just
Speaker 1: not from a playoff perspective, maybe not even from a
Speaker 1: conference championship perspective.
Speaker 2: Oregon looking completely inept on the road at all points
Speaker 2: last season and barely backed into the Bowl win that
Speaker 2: would I don't even know what the score was, seven, six, ten, seven,
Speaker 2: something ridiculous. So just want I want competence from Oregon
Speaker 2: on the road, and I want to see how much
Speaker 2: control the new quarterback for Auburn has in this offense.
Speaker 2: Because it's somebody new, it's Gatewood, it's Nicks, whoever, whoever
Speaker 2: it is, we'll have a sort of a tough time
Speaker 2: I think with this Oregon defense.
Speaker 1: Daniel, this comes from happy ombre hombre. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: were unable to watch the game you've been waiting for
Speaker 1: all season live, but we're able to listen on the radio,
Speaker 1: would you tune in or would you wait to watch
Speaker 1: the game later on DVD. Again, that's from Happy Happy Ombre.
Speaker 2: We may be the right I think you meant DVR,
Speaker 2: but I like the idea that it's DVD. Oh did
Speaker 2: I say DVD, I mean DV. Here you go, here's
Speaker 2: your digital video disc. Same difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we may be the wrong people to ask on
Speaker 1: this because, as you know, we do a show very
Speaker 1: early Sunday mornings. We have to pay attention to everything.
Speaker 1: We're always, I think in this mode where we need
Speaker 1: to try and follow the action live. If we don't
Speaker 1: see it live, it makes it hard.
Speaker 2: We have to the fact we have weddings, we have
Speaker 2: events that we need to go to that happen to
Speaker 2: coincide with games that we've been looking forward to for
Speaker 2: a long time. We're real people, but only in a sense, right,
Speaker 2: So what is it too? Is it listening to the
Speaker 2: radio and you know, hearing what happens live as it's happening,
Speaker 2: or holding out, abstaining maybe turning your phone off, listening
Speaker 2: to music or podcast that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I've never been able to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that radio's the answer.
Speaker 1: Radio is the answer. And Dan, I listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of games in the radio. I talk about it
Speaker 1: to the course of a season. I actually like listening
Speaker 1: to some of the team specific broadcasts. It gives you
Speaker 1: a flair for the game, insight into the game that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't get watching some of the national commentators do it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So I've got no issue with listening to a game
Speaker 1: on the radio. Granted it's not like watching it on TV,
Speaker 1: so you can see with your own eyes what's going on.
Speaker 2: But there is engrossing in its own way.
Speaker 1: There's an art to that radio broadcast that I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I'm being deprived if I have to listen
Speaker 1: as opposed to view.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you. Travis wants to know
Speaker 2: can Kentucky use a running back by committee to get
Speaker 2: the same results as where they were with Benny Snell
Speaker 2: last year or better? How much of a leap forward
Speaker 2: will Terry Wilson have with or make with the passing
Speaker 2: game this year?
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's a good question because again we talked
Speaker 1: about it on the Dude Show. Yeah, that offense was
Speaker 1: very rush heavy, for sure. They ran a lot. They
Speaker 1: had Benny Snell. He was a fourth round pick, went
Speaker 1: to the Steelers. Obviously, very very talented this season. Now
Speaker 1: without him, it's obviously, as Travis said, more of a
Speaker 1: running back by committee, and I think the offense as
Speaker 1: a whole is going to be a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 1: So Terry Wilson's going to have more opportunities, presumably to
Speaker 1: improve in the passing game. Wasn't terrific last season, obviously
Speaker 1: has a ton of room for and for improvement in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: They are going to need to do Eddie Grant in
Speaker 2: this offensive staff figure out a way to manufacture yards
Speaker 2: in a sort of indirect e facy way. Because Terry
Speaker 2: Wilson on third downs last year. I look this up
Speaker 2: in preparation for Travis. I care about Travis on third downs.
Speaker 2: The number one hundred quarterback in the nation on third
Speaker 2: downs had a rating of about one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1: Not good at all, not great.
Speaker 2: No, Terry Wilson was not listed in the top one hundred,
Speaker 2: so I had to dig and look up situational stats
Speaker 2: about Terry Wilson. He hit, he was at about one oh six,
Speaker 2: So they need to get to a lot more third
Speaker 2: and two's so that he's just dumping stuff off or
Speaker 2: he's making plays with his legs, because any notion of
Speaker 2: him developed being significantly as a passer would be almost
Speaker 2: too much to ask for. That is probably not going
Speaker 2: to be how Kentucky wins. I think they're going to
Speaker 2: try and open things up, but I think that's more
Speaker 2: in the like, let's how do we find you know,
Speaker 2: four yards in the screen game kind of thing, and
Speaker 2: like a de facto way of running without having Benny Snell,
Speaker 2: because ultimately, Benny Snell was the hammer that made the
Speaker 2: offense go and it was an alley oop situation with
Speaker 2: that defense that was able to get opposing offenses off
Speaker 2: the field so quickly, so you wear down those opposing
Speaker 2: defenses with a back like Benny Snell. He was the
Speaker 2: perfect running back for them, and he was. He stays healthy,
Speaker 2: he's able to get extra yardage. He was terrific and
Speaker 2: he'll be missed. You know, maybe they go five and seven,
Speaker 2: maybe they go six and six, which is still okay
Speaker 2: for Kentucky football. But if even third and seven feels
Speaker 2: like a mile sometimes if they have to go downfield, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, So I'm not super optimistic on Terry Wilson
Speaker 2: as a top eight quarterback in the SEC.
Speaker 1: Daniel let's go to lamb to slam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to high school with this guy. That's
Speaker 2: not true.
Speaker 1: Better season, Shaye Patterson or Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, this's a marriage question for me.
Speaker 1: How do you feel here?
Speaker 2: I think it's Justin Herbert. I think there's going to
Speaker 2: be a bit of a push pull for Michigan in
Speaker 2: terms of philosophy on offense, where I think Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 2: is saying all the right things in June, July, March, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're looking to evolve, We're turning fully full control to
Speaker 2: Josh Gaddis. But it feels a little bit like Lebron
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, I'm gonna play center now, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to dribble the ball up, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: run fast breaks anymore. And then come February, Lebron has
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. Come November, Holy that Michigan
Speaker 2: has a fullback out there and they're just going for
Speaker 2: another dive on third and three. So I think Justin Herbert,
Speaker 2: as much as I don't like the pistol, I think
Speaker 2: think his upside downfield making plays is higher than Shape Patterson,
Speaker 2: and I think the defenses he'll be dealing with are
Speaker 2: a little bit easier to put put up numbers against.
Speaker 1: So I'm going Herbert, that's a fair assessment. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go shape Patterson. As you'll find once we get into
Speaker 1: our actual team and conference previews. I'm very high on
Speaker 1: Michigan this year. Yeah, and I think he stands to
Speaker 1: benefit from an improvement elsewhere on offense. I think another
Speaker 1: year in that system will help him dramatically. And if
Speaker 1: Michigan does what I think, it's going to be hard
Speaker 1: not to answer Shape Patterson to this question. He's a
Speaker 1: very good quarterback. He just needs another year in the system.
Speaker 2: For give me, Shay. Let's get away from pure Michigan
Speaker 2: for God's sakes. This comes to us from coach oh
Speaker 2: Is Lord, whoa coach?
Speaker 1: Oh? Is this actually maybe Ed Orzron asking this question?
Speaker 2: Not coach O is actually the handle of coach Orgeron,
Speaker 2: similar to LSU with Joe Burrow. What teams are just
Speaker 2: one piece away from breakout years? And what pieces do
Speaker 2: they need? And then he wants us to talk about
Speaker 2: LSU's new locker room, which I guess we can for
Speaker 2: a few seconds, but I don't know if that college
Speaker 2: football is necessarily a one piece away unless it's quarterback,
Speaker 2: and so do you have teams that right now, they
Speaker 2: appear to be in pretty good shape, but at quarterback
Speaker 2: they're just a little too iffy. And with the right
Speaker 2: quarterback they're winning two and a half, three, three and
Speaker 2: a half more games. Hasn't this been?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we've done full episodes on Florida
Speaker 1: being this team for the last three seasons. Now, if
Speaker 1: they get better quarterback play, they might party team.
Speaker 2: Part of it is quarterback slash coordinator. Right, It's hard
Speaker 2: to say like it's just on the quarterback skill set,
Speaker 2: but let's say one piece in saying that it's offense
Speaker 2: and quarterback philosophy and the actual talent under center. Right,
Speaker 2: I think Penn State isn't that Penn State this year
Speaker 2: could fall into that category. Sean Their offense took a
Speaker 2: big tumble back last year. Sean Cliff was incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you starting quarterback, former Blue Chipper, but not Trace McSorley.
Speaker 1: Not the windiest quarterback in program history. So sure, I
Speaker 1: think that's a fair assessment. There'll be a bit of
Speaker 1: a bit of a recalibration on the Penn State side
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 2: What about Mississippi state. I think they're definitely winning more
Speaker 2: games last year.
Speaker 1: But one piece would you classify them as one piece away?
Speaker 2: I would classify them as having a Nick Fitzgerald problem
Speaker 2: last season, yes for sure. Yeah, their defense in his mundy,
Speaker 2: even though they lose what they lose to the NFL
Speaker 2: significant players up the middle of that defense. Even this year,
Speaker 2: they've brought back an enough talent on both sides of
Speaker 2: the ball that if you were to tell me again,
Speaker 2: if Tommy Stevens hits that or whoever ends up starting
Speaker 2: the Danny Etling line, then they are going to be
Speaker 2: a very dangerous team.
Speaker 1: He does say one piece away from breakout years, so
Speaker 1: that's a lower bar.
Speaker 2: I think Iowa was an offensive coordinator away from being
Speaker 2: a nine to ten win consistent team. Sure, yeah, LSU
Speaker 2: he mentioned Auburn is interesting because they should have another
Speaker 2: really good defense. I think Utah is an offensive coordinator away,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's Andy Ludwig. I think Troy
Speaker 2: Taylor's fine, but I think, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: You an interesting answer at quarterback.
Speaker 2: TCU is definitely an interesting answer.
Speaker 1: There are a couple other questions in here that involve TCU,
Speaker 1: but TCU I think falls into this category as well.
Speaker 2: By the way, Troy Taylor is the form offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: of Utah. I meant to say Tyler hunt Lake because
Speaker 2: it's very confusing to keep every name correct. Other teams
Speaker 2: that are just I think Cal and I like Bo Baldwin,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a quarterback issue for Cal and
Speaker 2: it's maybe it's more just four pieces on offense for Cal.
Speaker 2: But I thought, I think they're that away from a breakthrough.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm trying to think. And then Kentucky that's
Speaker 2: that's the way to tie it all together.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Walker.
Speaker 2: Did you want to mention the LSU locker room? Did
Speaker 2: you say picture?
Speaker 1: He said, I saw they've got beds in there or
Speaker 1: fold out beds, sleep pods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say what I say to my wife. You
Speaker 2: want to want to go to our sleep pod.
Speaker 1: Real quick, Here's what I'll say about that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The best part about the new LSU locker room is
Speaker 1: the hype video that LSU made, I think in conjunction
Speaker 1: with whatever architecture firm designed it. Right, If you could
Speaker 1: find that, and I'm sure you can out on YouTube
Speaker 1: or two or wherever, go and watch that. They are
Speaker 1: really shooting sunshine into that new locker room.
Speaker 2: The new locker room is unquestionably excellent looking, and it
Speaker 2: is very cool to see those players who work very
Speaker 2: hard for LSU be very happy and very excited about
Speaker 2: their new locker room. But as you and I were
Speaker 2: talking about this, there is that whiff of are we
Speaker 2: just quarantining football players so they never have to deal
Speaker 2: with anybody outside of themselves?
Speaker 1: I made a Google reference too, right, so this is
Speaker 1: like the google Plex never leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like weird luxurious football house arrest. At least they.
Speaker 1: Get paid at the Google Plex.
Speaker 2: They do get paid at the Google Plex handsomely. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there is like that strange feeling where it's just like,
Speaker 2: we have so much money. Look at all these donations
Speaker 2: we're spending on sleep pods. These players are never gonna
Speaker 2: have to leave and grow as humans around up other people.
Speaker 2: It's strange. It's strange, Walker happy for the people.
Speaker 1: What under the radar Week one matchup do you find
Speaker 1: to be the most intriguing? Okay, UCLA Cincinnati initially caught
Speaker 1: my eye, he said, under the radar. Under the radar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're two of Chip versus the Cincinnati team. Trying to
Speaker 1: deal with an unfamiliar expectation going into the year. But additionally,
Speaker 1: I'm digging FIU two Lane and the Toledo Kentucky games.
Speaker 1: FIU two Lane and Toledo Kentucky would not be something
Speaker 1: that will Jason Candle action. So we already mentioned Boise
Speaker 1: and Florida State. You nailed Boise, great job, thank you.
Speaker 1: The other one that I'll throw in here is Northwestern
Speaker 1: and Stanford Northwestern because I really truly never know how
Speaker 1: to put a finger on Northwestern. I just I can
Speaker 1: never figure Northwestern out before at the start of the year.
Speaker 1: They win eight or nine games every year, sort of like, Utah,
Speaker 1: why don't you just why can't you make peace with
Speaker 1: Northwestern being good? I had no problem with Northwestern being good.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I can never predict how they're going to finish.
Speaker 2: But they're always You could just say they're gonna be
Speaker 2: pretty good and be right every year.
Speaker 1: Northwestern is probably gonna be pretty good. There it is
Speaker 1: Northwestern Stanford. There was that weird bodyclock game a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, Stanford lost. I have real questions
Speaker 1: about Stanford this year.
Speaker 2: Same and this could be like a couple of pieces
Speaker 2: on defense, but in terms of offense, there's a lot
Speaker 2: to be a little bit wary of.
Speaker 1: So those are my two answers. Boy C, Florida State,
Speaker 1: Northwestern Stanford. Anything else that I'm missing outside of once
Speaker 1: you got here FIU two lane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few things here. I think Eastern Washington
Speaker 2: at Washington even though no Bo Baldwin, o Vernon Adams
Speaker 2: every year, no guy Ja Gubrut. Every year, Eastern Washington
Speaker 2: puts the fear of life into a decent Pac twelve team.
Speaker 2: There's that we mentioned ole Miss Memphis. We got Rich
Speaker 2: Rod calling plays for ole Miss. We've got all sorts
Speaker 2: of fun storylines in this game. I think South Carolina,
Speaker 2: North Carolina, the premiere of Mac Brown. The game generally
Speaker 2: gets a little bit strange. I think what I was
Speaker 2: looking through here, I mean Virginia Tech on offense can
Speaker 2: be kind of wild. They have Boston College, they have
Speaker 2: a conference game Week one. Here is my very under
Speaker 2: the radar game, Oregon State Oklahoma State. I saw that
Speaker 2: one Friday night ten thirty kick and Oregon State as
Speaker 2: a complete team as a team to challenge really anybody
Speaker 2: on their schedule in the Pac twelve. But if you
Speaker 2: remember last year Week one, they ran all over Ohio State.
Speaker 2: They're a team that has taken lightly traditionally, I mean
Speaker 2: not traditionally but lately, and they quietly have a very
Speaker 2: good running back in Jamar Jefferson. Oklahoma State working in
Speaker 2: new quarterback, new offensive coordinator. Strange Week one happenings at
Speaker 2: night deep into central Western Oregon. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think that's under the radar, kind of interesting. Oregon State
Speaker 2: will probably because they're not a deep team with talent,
Speaker 2: they'll be as healthy as they'll ever be. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. My Danny sense is tingling.
Speaker 1: Let's go to someone else named Daniel. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: your favorite non marching band college football related songs? For example,
Speaker 1: Sandstorm at South Carolina, Answer Sandman at Virginia Tech, Zombiation
Speaker 1: Penn State, Neck at LSU, Country Roads at West Virginia,
Speaker 1: jump Around at Wisconsin, etc.
Speaker 2: Etc. Dan, I've been in the stadium for a number
Speaker 2: of these, yes, as have I. I've been in the
Speaker 2: stadium for West Virginia. I've been in the stadium for
Speaker 2: jump Around. I think Texas now does jump around as well.
Speaker 2: It's kind of lame that they're doing that interesting. I
Speaker 2: have not been in the stadium. Oregon's been doing this
Speaker 2: for a few years now. They do shout Okay, it's
Speaker 2: because of Animal House and that's a good time.
Speaker 1: Ah. I think, I think is going to be jump around,
Speaker 1: isn't it?
Speaker 2: Jump Around is fun, But there's something that is more
Speaker 2: enjoyable to me about country Roads. And I couldn't put
Speaker 2: my finger on it until I randomly went to the
Speaker 2: West Virginia Bar in Manhattan and New York City, New
Speaker 2: York City. As soon as halftime began, the bar mutes
Speaker 2: the TV and they blast the hell out of this
Speaker 2: and the entire bar sang it. And so by the
Speaker 2: extension of the West Virginia fandom to this random bar,
Speaker 2: sold me on just how fun it is to sing
Speaker 2: with a bunch of West Virginia fans instead of just
Speaker 2: jumping around. So that's my answer.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go jump around. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Let's go to you, Andy, He says, our recruiting rankings
Speaker 1: biased gosh towards recruits who commit to blue blood schools.
Speaker 2: Very good question.
Speaker 1: We've done a number of shows here on recruiting over
Speaker 1: the years. Yeah, I would say Andy that you're close.
Speaker 2: You're close. I think the answer is sort of but
Speaker 2: sort of.
Speaker 1: What I was going to say is it's not so
Speaker 1: much where the recruits are committing, but rather who is
Speaker 1: showing interest in the recruits that tends to influence the
Speaker 1: star ranking. So, for example, if you are Toledo showing
Speaker 1: interest in a quarterback, it might not have as much
Speaker 1: pull as if let's say Ohio State, We're interested in
Speaker 1: the same quarterback. Then all of a sudden people are
Speaker 1: paying attention. That sound right to you, Yeah, I okay.
Speaker 1: So my answer to this is basically, we are never
Speaker 1: going to be armed with all of the information about
Speaker 1: the recruitment of anybody. What happens a lot of these
Speaker 1: times is players will send footage or they will they'll
Speaker 1: send footage to coaches, they will put footage online. The
Speaker 1: people that come up with the recruiting rankings, it's a
Speaker 1: number of people. So just saying like so and so
Speaker 1: is ranked number thirty eight on two four seven, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's necessarily he is the number thirty
Speaker 1: eight player in the country. It's just like this weird
Speaker 1: consensus in negotiation. Now, you will have times where somebody
Speaker 1: who is who doesn't have a ranking all of a
Speaker 1: sudden becomes a four star. A lot of that is
Speaker 1: because they just haven't been evaluated. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: somebody jumps up and it's like, oh, this coach at
Speaker 1: Wisconsin found this running back in Ohio and we really
Speaker 1: hadn't he hadn't been to camp, so we don't know
Speaker 1: anything about him. But then we saw him at this camp,
Speaker 1: or we saw him at this you know, the opening
Speaker 1: or one of those types of events. Sure, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense now that we've seen him alongside other guys.
Speaker 1: So sometimes guys just aren't evaluated and make a big jump,
Speaker 1: and different services have like they're either nre not rated
Speaker 1: or they are two stars or one stars if they
Speaker 1: haven't been evaluated yet. Also, sometimes people that are presumed
Speaker 1: to be three stars were backups and you really couldn't
Speaker 1: get an idea for how good they could potentially be
Speaker 1: against top notch competition, and then they go throw at
Speaker 1: South Carolina or they're you know, at the Elite eleven
Speaker 1: camp and they make a big jump. It's a matter
Speaker 1: of having the data. A lot of the times where
Speaker 1: these guys make jumps, and as soon as more people
Speaker 1: get data. The guys who are showing more positive traits
Speaker 1: and more potential are getting bigger offers. So sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just a fluid process that all of the sudden, Alabama's
Speaker 1: offering a guy doesn't mean they're necessarily becoming a five star.
Speaker 2: Alabama's offering a guy because there are more data points
Speaker 2: that say, oh, he is this dude. So I think
Speaker 2: that's where the confusion rests a little bit. But if
Speaker 2: it happens a week before signing day and we've had
Speaker 2: all of these data points for however many years, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, outside linebacker committed to Toledo this whole
Speaker 2: time as a three star suddenly gets a Notre Dame offer,
Speaker 2: becomes a four star, that becomes a little shadier. But
Speaker 2: I think it's more complicated than oh, they committed to
Speaker 2: this school, they got bumped a star because a lot
Speaker 2: of times they commit to that school because more data
Speaker 2: is available.
Speaker 1: So we're sort of on the same page here. I think, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's complicated, and it's not just a favoring of
Speaker 2: the blue bloods in that other than the fact that,
Speaker 2: like you know, top players want to play for the
Speaker 2: schools that prove that they can develop them and that
Speaker 2: have invested in them, whether it's facilities and academics whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, it's an investment begets investment kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Abbott writes in everyone knows Fluti's Hail Mary and the
Speaker 1: play between cal Stanford. Yeah, what play from the past
Speaker 1: five years will be in the same historic category twenty
Speaker 1: five years from now? Again, that's right.
Speaker 2: So he specifically says five years because the kick six
Speaker 2: was twenty.
Speaker 1: The kick six was six years ago. That's right, right,
Speaker 1: So I went back, I looked at this. I think
Speaker 1: there's an obvious answer. Okay, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: were able to find one.
Speaker 2: What's your obvious answer?
Speaker 1: Answer is tua's past to win the national championship over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like the NC State tippin' in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty whatever. To win the national championship winning it on
Speaker 2: a single play is pretty significant. I think that's right,
Speaker 2: because if you go back, you have you know, Vince
Speaker 2: Young run running it into the corner of the end zone.
Speaker 2: You have all these plays. You have Michael Crabtree's play
Speaker 2: obviously has withstood the test of time against Texas. So
Speaker 2: there are the number of players number of plays. I
Speaker 2: think it is toua. I think it's got to be
Speaker 2: probably the play right now because it was the situation
Speaker 2: was such where he's coming in in relief as a
Speaker 2: freshman and it's just a dime of dimes in a
Speaker 2: moment where he's taken sacks, he's looked kind of shaky
Speaker 2: and just recognizes cover two and just laces it in perfectly.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the as painful as it is sometimes
Speaker 2: to say that's the answer, because they you have other
Speaker 2: plays that are that are wonky. You have what was
Speaker 2: a Duke Miami with the last second king turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was goofy, and there's questions about
Speaker 1: whether it was legal, but sure.
Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma States giving the who is it? Central
Speaker 2: Michigan That to me is still funny the end of
Speaker 2: that game with the hail Mary. But yeah, that's probably
Speaker 2: the answer. That's probably too.
Speaker 1: We've got a question here, how would you fix college
Speaker 1: football's attendance problem?
Speaker 2: I got another one by the way that they still show.
Speaker 2: Oh please please not to mention Michigan even more than
Speaker 2: we already have, but Michigan State's the botched punt to win.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, that's still anytime you start looking
Speaker 2: at bigger moments between those two schools, are, you know,
Speaker 2: with Michigan State games or Michigan games that's inevitably played
Speaker 2: for sure. Sorry Abbott, who I think is a Michigan fan.
Speaker 2: How would you fix attendance better parking? Next question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, how about cheaper tickets? That
Speaker 1: would help?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, and no, I mean the secondary market kind
Speaker 2: of pushes things. But it's it's another lowder question.
Speaker 1: It's a loaded question, yeah, and it's one we've been
Speaker 1: talking about for a couple of years now. The underlying
Speaker 1: reason for asking this question is because the tendance is
Speaker 1: down across college football. Just as many people go into games,
Speaker 1: aren't as many students interested in going to the games.
Speaker 1: And you know, you can blame cell phones and ticket
Speaker 1: prices and lord knows whatever else for it. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's one answer to this question. I you know,
Speaker 1: lowering the ticket prices helps. I don't know if anyone
Speaker 1: really wants to do that, though, because these programs, in
Speaker 1: order to stay competitive, are very much relying on that revenue.
Speaker 1: They need that in order to keep things up and
Speaker 1: run and keep the lights on. So gosh, it's hard.
Speaker 1: I guess you make it more of a multimedia experience
Speaker 1: while you're in there. That could help, do you though, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think everybody put their cell phones in I know, like
Speaker 2: what comedians do.
Speaker 1: I know you put them in a lock box and
Speaker 1: then you got I just think and I'm with you, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I just think the direction
Speaker 1: we're headed is one that needs to include more of
Speaker 1: a mixed media experience in order to attract people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there. You can point to a number
Speaker 2: of things that have heard it right. The TV experience
Speaker 2: is better, you know, watching games from home in general,
Speaker 2: smokers or less. You can get a pizza oven for
Speaker 2: a couple hundred bucks. If that's what you're interested in.
Speaker 2: You can use your own bathroom. The stadium experiences aren't great.
Speaker 2: The college FOTBA playoff, I don't think is healthing's realignment
Speaker 2: where you have fewer interesting rivalry games and their teams
Speaker 2: that are moving conferences and there's not you know, if
Speaker 2: you're a West Virginia fan like oh man, I got
Speaker 2: to go to Stillwater, why, I understand you love your team,
Speaker 2: but you don't have the history of saying Oh, man,
Speaker 2: I can lean on all of this.
Speaker 1: Let me pause you for a second. Yeah, I'll take
Speaker 1: this question in a slightly different direction because I know
Speaker 1: it's a point of contention between you and I. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do you feel that the college football Playoff has
Speaker 1: hurt attendance?
Speaker 2: Because everything is suddenly through the lens of am I
Speaker 2: one of the four best teams? And that starts I've
Speaker 2: probably done since the end of last season, and I'm
Speaker 2: just talking about the interviews in which I've been asked this. Sure,
Speaker 2: I've probably done twenty five interviews where I've been asked
Speaker 2: to pick my final four as a twenty nineteen season. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fair, That's totally fair.
Speaker 2: And it's the answer that like, no matter what I say,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean anything, both because I'm dumb and because
Speaker 2: it's March and we're looking at college football through this
Speaker 2: lens where suddenly, if you're a Minnesota fan, if you're
Speaker 2: a San Diego State fan, if you are a UTSA fan,
Speaker 2: if you are a Florida State fan, and you are
Speaker 2: five and three, well why am I going to these games?
Speaker 2: Like I was thinking, Well, if you're a team that
Speaker 2: expects to go to the playoff, I'm thinking if I'm
Speaker 2: a Florida State fan, if I'm a Clemson fan, whatever,
Speaker 2: an Ohio State fan, and I start out in a
Speaker 2: disappointing way, like, well, the season doesn't mean anything. These
Speaker 2: games don't mean anything because we're not going to go
Speaker 2: to the playoff. We're not going to be in that
Speaker 2: conversation we're talking on that Tuesday night. But so all right,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on home on pause pause. Hasn't that
Speaker 2: always been the case, though, regardless of whether you're telling
Speaker 2: me a three loss team in an era pre playoff,
Speaker 2: maybe during championship for what twenty years, or during during
Speaker 2: the old championship ball.
Speaker 1: Format, a three loss team is still in the conversation.
Speaker 2: That's not that they're in the conversation, it's that they
Speaker 2: don't feel like they're part of college football in the
Speaker 2: same way. I don't know if you're if you're a
Speaker 2: top team power if you are an upper half of
Speaker 2: a Power five conference team. And it's not not even
Speaker 2: just the playoff, but so much attention has gone to
Speaker 2: the playoff that it everything else feels a little bit devalued.
Speaker 1: I am. I will grant you that a lot of
Speaker 1: attention has gone to the Playoff. I don't know if
Speaker 1: more attention has gone to the playoff than went to
Speaker 1: the BCS or than went to some of the top
Speaker 1: teams in the old ball format. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: about the same. If you lose three games, you're not
Speaker 1: going to be in that conversation. I don't care what
Speaker 1: system you've got in the postseason.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, if you have these four teams in the
Speaker 2: whatever games, the rotating games in the semi finals. Sure,
Speaker 2: if you're saying, well, keep it local with you. If
Speaker 2: you're a Penn State fan, does going to you know, Michigan.
Speaker 2: Michigan went to what They went to the Peach Bowl
Speaker 2: last year, They went to the Orange Bowl a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. They lost to Florida State. Those games
Speaker 2: don't mean anything. But if you're Penn State in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety five and you go to the Orange Bowl even
Speaker 2: though you're ten and two or nine and two, whatever,
Speaker 2: and you're probably not going to be in consideration of
Speaker 2: the national championship, it is dope that you are Penn
Speaker 2: State and you get to play Nebraska in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 1: Right, But you just contradicted yourself by saying even though
Speaker 1: you're not going to win the national championship. It's the
Speaker 1: same difference.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying if going to the Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: now doesn't mean anything, I don't know, it's und You're not.
Speaker 1: I'm always going to disagree on this point. We're always
Speaker 1: going to disagree on this point.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm telling you, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't totally disagree with the fact that the playoff
Speaker 1: to some degree may have hurt college boo ball or
Speaker 1: collegeo ball attendants. They're trying to make it a thing
Speaker 1: or not in our case, downloads towards the latter half
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, let's be transparent. It happens. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that for one second. I just don't
Speaker 1: know if the playoff has had such an outsized effect
Speaker 1: as you might think, Well.
Speaker 2: Guess what happens. Standpoint, guess what happens either way, if
Speaker 2: the experience of going to a game is not as
Speaker 2: fun because maybe the stakes don't seem as important, or
Speaker 2: maybe you don't care about stakes. It gets cold by
Speaker 2: the end of the year, it gets very so especially
Speaker 2: up here, really sure here, especially up here, it gets
Speaker 2: cold by the end of the year. So sure you
Speaker 2: want you know you have a Minnesota Wisconsin rivalry game,
Speaker 2: Yes you want to do that, But suddenly, if Wisconsin's
Speaker 2: no longer in the Big ten West race, do you
Speaker 2: care as much? Like It's just there's all these little
Speaker 2: races that seem like they mean something, but ultimately they
Speaker 2: don't mean as much as they once did. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to get here because I just I
Speaker 2: get why people don't go to games in November anymore.
Speaker 2: And I think the rivalry thing is a thing that
Speaker 2: you don't have. You know, the backyard brawl. You don't
Speaker 2: have the border war, and I know the backyard ball
Speaker 2: is coming back, but you don't have these. They're just
Speaker 2: college football is picking off things that made it really
Speaker 2: cool in the name of TV. More TV playoff at
Speaker 2: the end.
Speaker 1: More college football is on TV now than ever, sure,
Speaker 1: and I think that before anything else has had the
Speaker 1: most impact. I don't like going to games.
Speaker 2: Can I say that.
Speaker 1: On a college football show? No?
Speaker 2: No, you can say that I like going to games,
Speaker 2: and I think I like tailgates more than games, which
Speaker 2: is the least surprising thing I've said on the show.
Speaker 2: I like going to games.
Speaker 1: I like the emotion, but I like, I love the atmosphere, right,
Speaker 1: I love the atmosphere way more than I actually like
Speaker 1: watching the football game. Yeah, maybe my viewpoint is a
Speaker 1: bit slanted. Given we got to do this every Sunday morning. Sure,
Speaker 1: you know we have to pay attention to the game.
Speaker 1: We actually have to watch it and get a feel
Speaker 1: for what's going on. But yeah, a lot going to
Speaker 1: write in.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a very loaded question.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to go to the other thing. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead. If you're an Arkansas fan, go to Arkansas
Speaker 2: fan Arkansas games every year. Some years you're good, some
Speaker 2: years you're not that good. Some years are terrible, some
Speaker 2: years you're pretty damn exciting. Whatever the case is, you
Speaker 2: have your natural the variance of Arkansas success. Suddenly, more
Speaker 2: and more games are on TV. It's not necessarily that
Speaker 2: you was like, well, Arkansas is not having a good year,
Speaker 2: I might as well just watch this game at home.
Speaker 2: But now, if you live in wherever, in Arkansas, Missouri, wherever,
Speaker 2: you're watching Arkansas football, all of a sudden, there's a
Speaker 2: weekend where Arkansas is playing Alabama, and you know, like,
Speaker 2: well they're going to lose by fifty one. There that
Speaker 2: is just the reality of what's going to happen. I
Speaker 2: could go to this game and hang out with friends
Speaker 2: and family and have a good time before the game
Speaker 2: and watch them get killed whatever, and that's still going
Speaker 2: to be fun in its own way that going and
Speaker 2: hanging out with friends and family part. Or I could
Speaker 2: stay home and watch Michigan Michigan State, USC Oregon Sure,
Speaker 2: and Clemson Florida State and these are games because I
Speaker 2: am now so much more aware of what's happening nationally
Speaker 2: thanks of this all that's right now, I'm more aware
Speaker 2: of things happening nationally because I have the option to
Speaker 2: watch all of these games. The nationalization of the sport
Speaker 2: as much as we love it because we love watching it,
Speaker 2: as the TV show is now making. In the same
Speaker 2: way the NBA is like a star driven league. People
Speaker 2: are fans of players more than teams. I think people
Speaker 2: more and more are becoming fans of the sport over
Speaker 2: just and granted people are still on recruiting message boards
Speaker 2: and all these things, but I think that's an element
Speaker 2: where they look forward to games.
Speaker 1: We've seen that trend. We've had people right in say,
Speaker 1: you know, we used to go to games, Now we
Speaker 1: just have people over at the house. We do a
Speaker 1: big tailgate like at the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a thing. It's the thing that.
Speaker 1: People do, all right, Daniel, This comes from Mike. It
Speaker 1: is addressed specifically to you. Oh, since it's your first
Speaker 1: season watching with the solid for baby. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: strategies do you have in place to enjoy the games?
Speaker 1: Whilst english of him fulfilling your fatherly duties, he says,
Speaker 1: as a father of three year old twins myself, I
Speaker 1: could say the first two years were easy, but I
Speaker 1: am wondering how to tackle this season myself. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: A good question for the birthday boy here, Dan Rubinstein,
Speaker 1: what are your strategies? Have you thought this through it all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Work in college football and do so before you
Speaker 2: met your wife, so you can say Saturdays a workday.
Speaker 2: I in all honesty, if you are what is it
Speaker 2: three year old twins? Yeah, that's a handful. That is
Speaker 2: a definite handful. You are going to have to pick
Speaker 2: and choose. It's just watching from twelve Eastern to midnight
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's more than anybody can handle, unless they
Speaker 2: can say I have to watch all of these it
Speaker 2: is for what I do so you're picking and choosing.
Speaker 2: You are maybe staying up extra late past you know,
Speaker 2: when they're your your your kids go to sleep, waking
Speaker 2: up extra early though imagine three year old twins probably
Speaker 2: wake each other up pretty damn early. So it's watching
Speaker 2: into the week. It's there are YouTube channels that have
Speaker 2: these shortened and condensed games that are pretty great for
Speaker 2: anything you missed to just have some part of it
Speaker 2: in your life, and YouTube is on most TVs now
Speaker 2: so you can have a pretty good experience with it.
Speaker 2: But really it's looking at the schedule tonight today and
Speaker 2: talking to your significant other and circling some events and
Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna be around, I'm gonna help. These are
Speaker 2: the times that are important to me. I don't anticipate
Speaker 2: being able to watch at all, but at least I'm
Speaker 2: giving you the heads up that I yeah, i'd love
Speaker 2: to watch Elis Alabama in early November. Yeah, I'd love
Speaker 2: to watch Bedlam. Just pick your spots and give advance
Speaker 2: noticed as as a long ahead as possible.
Speaker 1: This is why the window of opportunity is so vital. Yes,
Speaker 1: on the show, you know he started it as a
Speaker 1: bit of a gag, but as time we're on. It
Speaker 1: was apparent this is actually a useful this is this
Speaker 1: is a thing that has a bit that has utility
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: But little kids throw a wrench in that.
Speaker 1: Little kids, you throw a wrench in that.
Speaker 2: You're right, The window of opportunity is great if you
Speaker 2: are just if you're dating somebody, if you're married, and
Speaker 2: maybe they're not interested in college football, but you're super interested.
Speaker 2: You're like, well, why don't we like, I'll do a
Speaker 2: bunch of grocery shopping between three and four thirty. I
Speaker 2: don't really care about what's happening between then, or you know,
Speaker 2: we have this this party, so I'm going to go.
Speaker 2: And that's fine. The windows great at you know, seven
Speaker 2: to nine, whatever it is. But little kids need a
Speaker 2: bunch of attention. This is true, yes, And they're not
Speaker 2: willing to be on your schedule. So I think you're
Speaker 2: going to have to negotiate in a pretty shrewd way.
Speaker 2: Well in advance, Daniel Edward writes in he also asked
Speaker 2: another question, Oh that's how you convene? Forgot?
Speaker 1: I apologize, he writes in let me read this off here.
Speaker 2: He says, oh, this is never mind. This is from
Speaker 2: this is a guy named Will who we forgot to
Speaker 2: write his name in it's right under Mike. But Will
Speaker 2: wants to.
Speaker 1: Know what would it take to get tied to reveal
Speaker 1: his mysterious day job? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What would it take? And I'm saying, you're still there
Speaker 2: and you're revealing it. Probably every single time we turned
Speaker 2: the recorder off at the live show, somebody.
Speaker 1: Asks that is, without fail, the number one question that
Speaker 1: we get asked every live show. When we hit stop
Speaker 1: on the recorder, somebody gets to microphone, this is what's
Speaker 1: a mysterious day job?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: To him, I don't know if you could put a
Speaker 1: price in this, Dan, it's a money thing. I don't
Speaker 1: think you could put a price on it, is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't think it's a money thing.
Speaker 2: Have you been told explicitly not to mention it? Or
Speaker 2: is this just an ongoing gag to get people just
Speaker 2: riled up and as they have been for like a decade.
Speaker 1: Can I be honest? Yeah, I can't answer this question.
Speaker 2: You mother effort. Okay, nobody has told you or somebody
Speaker 2: has told you I can't.
Speaker 1: I cannot answer this question. You really can't say that
Speaker 1: I cannot answer this question.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, time do you think you would get
Speaker 2: in trouble?
Speaker 1: I you can't. You can push all you want. I
Speaker 1: can't answer. I haven't answered the question in twelve years.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer it now.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not saying answer the question. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: would you get in trouble if you were to reveal it?
Speaker 2: Would you be called into an office? Potentially? WHOA?
Speaker 1: Okay, I cannot reveal sources.
Speaker 2: And here's my final question, yea is it more you
Speaker 2: or is it more external? Is it you covering for
Speaker 2: your making?
Speaker 1: If? Very comfortable, now we agree to know edits, which
Speaker 1: is why I mean I used to you and I
Speaker 1: don't appreciate being put on the.
Speaker 2: Spot like this. I used to ask you questions like
Speaker 2: if a hall would actress move to your hometown, what
Speaker 2: would your strategy be if she moved to like your
Speaker 2: call to sack?
Speaker 1: I ever had to answer you for that question?
Speaker 2: Did I I know? Not? Nothing that really satisfied me.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think I used Charlie's Theren as the example. All right,
Speaker 2: next question, since Ty is now in, he's in a wad,
Speaker 2: he's in a ball o.
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, Parker wants to know. I think he's
Speaker 2: part of the Frogs or Frogs O War clan okayu site.
Speaker 2: Tc is getting a lot of hype conditional on a
Speaker 2: big if, as in, do they have a quarterback? How
Speaker 2: big is that if? And are you buying stock on
Speaker 2: the Frogs? Is a dark horse for this fall? Oh no,
Speaker 2: I assume it means dark horse big twelve contender.
Speaker 1: Brother Parker. Yeah, he says big if?
Speaker 2: How big?
Speaker 1: And if are we talking here? Are we talking size
Speaker 1: seventy two font or size three hundred and seventy two font?
Speaker 1: Because for me, as somebody who has recently divorced on TCU,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's about five hundred and ninety two
Speaker 1: point funt such a huge if.
Speaker 2: They added like a like seven dudes. You ever like
Speaker 2: drive by a house that has eleven cars, but they're
Speaker 2: all like Toyota turcells.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got options. There's one in the neighborhood here. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I have one near my parents' house. For like,
Speaker 1: if they got eleven cars worth a combined twelve hundred dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, Cavante Turpin is gone. He gets in trouble.
Speaker 1: They saw the Jalen Rager.
Speaker 2: They've recruited, well, they've done a very good job identifying
Speaker 2: guys on defense, as they always do. They've got two
Speaker 2: really good looking tackles, but the inside of their line
Speaker 2: isn't great. Terrus Anderson's there. Let's say they get a
Speaker 2: B plus out of whoever starts at quarterback. Sure is
Speaker 2: TCU pushing double ditch? They got some land mines on
Speaker 2: the schedule they got to do, I believe early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, early, not the easiest schedule pushing double digits.
Speaker 2: They could get. So if I gave you, if I
Speaker 2: said me, maybe, Okay, So if I gave you an
Speaker 2: over under of eight and a half with.
Speaker 1: B plus quarterback play, see, I'm the worst because I
Speaker 1: jinx TCU, Like you really don't want to ask me
Speaker 1: this question, Parker, I would go over. I always go
Speaker 1: over on TCU. That's my problem. I went over last year.
Speaker 1: I bet actual US currency on the over. I think
Speaker 1: it was seven and a half last year. Okay, whatever
Speaker 1: it was last year, I bet the over and I lost.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. How many of these quarterbacks are
Speaker 2: you worried about? Arkansas, Pine Bluff? Whoever? It is? No, Okay,
Speaker 2: Purdue and the cinularity Purdue always always. I'm not that
Speaker 2: worried about him. Smu No, not terribly worried about their offense.
Speaker 2: New quarterback Ben Hicks gone Kansas. No worried about their offense.
Speaker 2: Brock Party at Iowa State. Names definitely, definitely worried. At
Speaker 2: Kansas State, you're one of the Chris Climbing experiment experiment.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm worried, but I think they'll
Speaker 1: be pretty.
Speaker 2: I think I saw the Chris climb and experience play
Speaker 2: jazz fusion knitting factory. At Kansas State. It's tricky. Texas
Speaker 2: Texas and Sam Ellinger one of the best probably eight
Speaker 2: quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks in the country. Sure, at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 2: I think there's reasonable worry there.
Speaker 1: Quarterback is usually a position of strength and still one.
Speaker 2: Pretty good new coordinator could be Drew Brown, Spencer Sanders,
Speaker 2: who knows Baylor Charlie Brewers fine, but that's at home.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech new coach, new coordinator Alan Bowman, we know
Speaker 2: has a pretty impressive ceiling. When healthy. British comedy legend, Sure,
Speaker 2: British comedy legend. In Oklahoma, West Virginia. There are some
Speaker 2: serious land Mines.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're winning nine games this year.
Speaker 1: Nine I think is the upper limit.
Speaker 2: I think they're winning eight. I think they're going eight
Speaker 2: and four to seven to five because they look pretty
Speaker 2: ugly at times. Last year. I think they lost five
Speaker 2: of six in the middle of the season. Oh here,
Speaker 2: this is a good one, Nebraska. This is from literally
Speaker 2: just some guys. How this person? Nebraska is getting a
Speaker 2: lot of hype this preseason from four and eight to
Speaker 2: Big ten West front runner or in Dan ro Loobski's case,
Speaker 2: playoff contender wow Orlosky said that do you like Dan Rolovsky?
Speaker 2: Not really really, I like him. I think he's good. Okay,
Speaker 2: It seems like more often than not, teams like this
Speaker 2: fall well short of expectations. Was it? See this? This
Speaker 2: is why I hate when people ask me about the
Speaker 2: who's in your top four playoff? Because I will forever
Speaker 2: remember I think it was our friend Cole Kublick had
Speaker 2: NC States a couple of years ago when they had
Speaker 2: the Bradley Chubb line. What are some examples of teams
Speaker 2: that actually lived up to the year two to leap hype?
Speaker 1: So all right, so pause for a second. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to something that you raised there.
Speaker 2: Do do Do Do Do Do Do do Thank you. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Here's whey I stand in the playoff. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: more about it as we get into our team previews
Speaker 1: and conference previews and all that jazz. I've said it before,
Speaker 1: We've been saying it all summer. I don't think anyone's
Speaker 1: coming out of the PAC twelve. Wow, if you don't
Speaker 1: think it, you know you feel the same. You don't
Speaker 1: think anyone's coming out either. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's coming out of the PAC twelve. The
Speaker 1: only other hope I think for a team crashing the
Speaker 1: playoff that isn't in one of those other conferences is
Speaker 1: obviously Notre Dame. I don't feel like Notre Dame is
Speaker 1: going to go on another run. It could happen. The
Speaker 1: season runs essentially through games against Michigan, against Stanford, and
Speaker 1: against Georgia, but I don't.
Speaker 2: See Notre Dame. Does Notre Dame fall into the one piece.
Speaker 1: Away, No, No, they don't fall into that ketch.
Speaker 2: Book is pretty good. Yeah, he's not a Terry Wilson
Speaker 2: Garber's type.
Speaker 1: Okay, So If you're ruling out Notre Dame and the
Speaker 1: PAC twelve, that means that, by process of elimination, you
Speaker 1: have four conferences to pick from. I'm picking Clemson in
Speaker 1: the ACC. I am shocker picking Alabama in the SEC.
Speaker 1: I am again picking Let's see, who do we want
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? Oklahoma, We'll go Oklahoma again?
Speaker 2: Want to be a man? Why don't you be a man?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go Miss Michigan in the Big ten.
Speaker 1: Those are my fourth playoff teams.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had a chance to think
Speaker 1: about this or not, but no, I just don't care.
Speaker 1: That's where I stand. So his question, though specifically second
Speaker 1: year leaps, he's talking specifically about Nebraska. I don't think
Speaker 1: Nebraska is a playoff contender. Nebraska's gonna need a lot
Speaker 1: of help on defense. I don't think their defense is
Speaker 1: far enough along yet. But I do like the moxie here.
Speaker 1: Maybe Maxi's the wrong word. I like being old mister
Speaker 1: Worlowski in going Nebraska?
Speaker 2: Where do you? Where do you stand on?
Speaker 1: This? Is there?
Speaker 2: Anighteen? What is that?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 2: What do you you like that? Dan Rolovski's being bold
Speaker 2: or that, or you're being bold and think that they're
Speaker 2: making a big leap this year.
Speaker 1: No, I like that he's being bold saying playoff contender.
Speaker 1: Do you think Nebraska's making I think they could challenge
Speaker 1: for the Big Ten West. But they're not a playoff
Speaker 1: contender yet.
Speaker 2: So the hype is not necessarily because people think. It's
Speaker 2: not entirely because people think Nebraska is all a sudden
Speaker 2: really good because they hung with good teams last year.
Speaker 2: It's because Scott Frost himself goes undefeated two years ago
Speaker 2: at UCF and went to Nebraska. So there is all
Speaker 2: this added. There are these added layers of Scott Frost
Speaker 2: and Nebraska hype, where like I went back to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: so I think you know, when Abbott was saying, you know,
Speaker 2: look at the last five years in terms of memorable play,
Speaker 2: I think that's right. You can't really go back farther
Speaker 2: than five years when you're discussing things, you know, modern hype, whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, Baber's made a nice leap in year two
Speaker 2: for Bowling Green. Jeff Brom made a really nice leap
Speaker 2: for the Hilltoppers Western Kentucky, although he comes in after
Speaker 2: Bobby Petrino, So you know it wasn't they think? They
Speaker 2: win eight games his first year, so not a huge leap.
Speaker 2: Tom Herman wins ten games, albeit it's including a Bowl game.
Speaker 2: Year two at Texas with a lot of hype, with
Speaker 2: for sure a lot of hype, and then my last example,
Speaker 2: with almost no hype. Gary Anderson makes a nice sleep
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin. Year two. Most of the time, the second
Speaker 2: year of a rebuilding reclamation project, there's not a huge leap.
Speaker 2: It's sort of the the year one is like, here's
Speaker 2: how we're running things now. Year two is okay, we
Speaker 2: understand we're moving in the right direction. Year three is,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we've gone ten and two because we've got
Speaker 2: it all figured out. It's tough to make that leap
Speaker 2: in year two when so much talent needs to filter
Speaker 2: into the system.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, we've got about five minutes left here.
Speaker 2: We have as much time as we want this media.
Speaker 2: We could do a three hour show, Joe, we could
Speaker 2: be Joe's Rogan and to a very long show. Five
Speaker 2: minutes here, Dan, Capital twenty two question about post college
Speaker 2: casual attire.
Speaker 1: Great question, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: And I think my answer is the same for all
Speaker 2: of his sub questions exactly, He says, the situation is
Speaker 2: you're attending a non celebratory dinner and a relatively nice
Speaker 2: sit down restaurant. Call it two steps above a Chili's
Speaker 2: or an Applebee's. What is your go to outfit outfit
Speaker 2: style for the following situations? So nowhere with a buzzer
Speaker 2: to alert you that your table is ready?
Speaker 1: Correct? Okay, dinner with a small group of fen of
Speaker 1: friends no significant others involved be a first date. See
Speaker 1: dinner with the significant other, d dinner with the significant
Speaker 1: other's family for the first time. I'm gonna be honest here, Okay.
Speaker 1: So the one that I need a little bit more
Speaker 1: clarity on is dinner with these small group of friends
Speaker 1: no significant others.
Speaker 2: So is this just like a dude's gathering? Is that
Speaker 2: what that is?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be only dudes,
Speaker 2: but yeah, sure, I gathering of buds.
Speaker 1: I think that might be the only of these four
Speaker 1: situations where I would not wear a collared shirt, or
Speaker 1: would at least consider not wearing a collar.
Speaker 2: Two steps above a Chili's applebeas, what do you consider
Speaker 2: two steps above a Chili's applebas of Paul Fleming's Chang's
Speaker 2: I think that's one step. I think that's one step.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure actually, but I think I probably
Speaker 1: go collar in all four situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question it's also important to know, well, what
Speaker 2: time of year is this?
Speaker 1: What time of year is this? Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's if.
Speaker 2: It's dead summer in Arizona. I think you're answering this
Speaker 2: question a little bit differently then, if it's October in Louth, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: What I would say here in eastern Pennsylvania, since that's
Speaker 1: what I'm familiar with. Yeah, if it's I think any
Speaker 1: of the first two okay, and it's let's say July
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, I go short sleeve shirt with collar and
Speaker 1: a pair of.
Speaker 2: Polo type shirt or a button down short Yeah, and
Speaker 2: a pair of shorts. I consider, Wait the first two minute,
Speaker 2: you'd wear a pair of shorts on your first eight maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Oh got me?
Speaker 1: Maybe me otherwise though, smoking jazz cigarettes otherwise though, I
Speaker 1: think I go long pants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you gotta be okay, I'll be more specific.
Speaker 2: You weren't a collar, you're probably if it's we'll call
Speaker 2: it sixty five degrees, so not too hot, not too cold.
Speaker 2: It's sixty five degrees. Chinos and a button down or
Speaker 2: a short sleeve, button down, long sleeve, rolled up the sleeves,
Speaker 2: whatever she knows. I think are the move because you
Speaker 2: can dress mobby, you can dress them down whatever I
Speaker 2: would opt for, slim or skinny fit. This is not
Speaker 2: to say wearing like painted on pants, because I think
Speaker 2: that's a misnomer. But just pants that fit you. Nothing
Speaker 2: too baggy. Get three colors to whatever you can afford.
Speaker 2: Get you know, light gray, dark gray, navy goes with
Speaker 2: a bunch of different other colors. Get five you know,
Speaker 2: slim fit button downs. You're pretty set. They're not that expensive.
Speaker 2: Go and try them on at a store. Go anywhere
Speaker 2: you want. You an old Navy, you go a Banana Republic,
Speaker 2: any of these places, Ja Crew, whatever you can afford.
Speaker 2: But make sure they fit you and they don't look,
Speaker 2: you know, like you're trying to sail out of the restaurant.
Speaker 1: At the end of it, my favorite part of this
Speaker 1: question is the conary.
Speaker 2: At the end, he says, I know.
Speaker 1: Mid twenties new adult, new adult fashion. Yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: that before, has been discussed on the show in years past.
Speaker 1: But a refresher would be great for some of your
Speaker 1: recent graduate listeners. Thanks. Yeah, guys, congratulations to you, sir
Speaker 1: or madam. If you are a new college grads.
Speaker 2: And get your pants hemmed so they flatter you, it
Speaker 2: costs like five bucks out of the cleaner. We have
Speaker 2: a question here, Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you guys ever considered video streaming on the
Speaker 1: podcast on YouTube?
Speaker 2: We have, and we sort of did a long time ago,
Speaker 2: but that was when we were doing it for a company.
Speaker 2: So let's let's pull back some onions onion layers here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see that.
Speaker 2: Let's I'm turning the lights down low. We live. If
Speaker 2: we were to do this in the same place we live,
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half apart ish, Yeah, depending
Speaker 2: on traffic. Ish.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'd love to set something up in New Jersey. I
Speaker 2: love the state of New Jersey. I love the opportunities
Speaker 2: in New Jersey. I'd love to set up a little
Speaker 2: solidbal studio and get things going time. Meanwhile, we've talked
Speaker 2: about this, I know, I know, so we could do it.
Speaker 2: Isn't there like an MLB network show that every day
Speaker 2: they're just in a different location.
Speaker 1: Is that the one with Kevin the War?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think that's right in Chris Rose,
Speaker 2: who does it every day. They're in a different location.
Speaker 2: I forget what it's called, but it's I think it's
Speaker 2: you ready for it.
Speaker 1: Intentional wall, intentional talk.
Speaker 2: I think it's intentional talk. I hate that name.
Speaker 1: It is so bad.
Speaker 2: It would not be terribly difficult to do from different
Speaker 2: places and split screen it. Tye has an advantage in
Speaker 2: that he could set up his studio to look like
Speaker 2: a presentable TV place where I record in a walk
Speaker 2: in closet is a little more difficult. I have a
Speaker 2: little bit of a wall set up now in my
Speaker 2: bedroom thanks to the Solid Baby for shooting some video
Speaker 2: stuff like I did last year for Sports Illustrated, and
Speaker 2: we'll see about this fall. But it's a little bit
Speaker 2: more difficult on my end. And the places that do
Speaker 2: a good job with it have other people working for them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we do not. We have Taylor who helps with a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff, but he is also remote. He's in
Speaker 2: the DC area. So yes, is the short answer. We'd
Speaker 2: like to but we aren't we.
Speaker 1: And let me let me also bookend that by saying
Speaker 1: that you know, we've announced some of our live shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again. Solider will take us dot Com, slash Texas,
Speaker 1: slash DC if you want to get in on those, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. With some other stuff cooking in the Oven.
Speaker 2: We do. There's stuff coming out hopefully soon.
Speaker 1: But we're excited about what's to come. I don't know
Speaker 1: if video will be a component of that. Probably not.
Speaker 2: The places that do a really good job with that
Speaker 2: also have a longer season, or like if you're doing
Speaker 2: a political podcast every day, every week, whatever, people are interested.
Speaker 2: People are most interested for three and a half four
Speaker 2: months of a twelve month year with college football. So
Speaker 2: to invest that kind of time and only doing it,
Speaker 2: you know, once a week for fifteen weeks, I think
Speaker 2: you need a lot more time to build up an
Speaker 2: audience than that. And so if it's NBA, if it's
Speaker 2: comedians doing it where you can watch it on YouTube
Speaker 2: whenever you want. If there are two comedians that do
Speaker 2: a podcast in LA they just have regular guests stream
Speaker 2: in and out, and you're a fan of that show,
Speaker 2: you can watch a show from two months ago on
Speaker 2: YouTube and get everything out of it that you would
Speaker 2: if you watched it a day after they've taped it.
Speaker 2: Less So with doing a show about Week three picks.
Speaker 1: In week eight, Daniel, we have a question here from
Speaker 1: JJ Turp. Okay, what meals are you looking forward to
Speaker 1: on your DC slash Dallas Live show weekend?
Speaker 2: So my first thought when we locked in the Dallas
Speaker 2: state was like, oh, we got to go to pecn Lodge.
Speaker 2: I don't think there would be a bigger mistake than
Speaker 2: filling my gullet with barbecue before trying to do a
Speaker 2: lot of show our performance. Yeah, so I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: pretty light. Just you know, this is no chakra. I'll
Speaker 2: probably find Mexican or something in Dallas. There's there's good
Speaker 2: Mexican options d C. I don't know the food is
Speaker 2: well in d C. But I've long wanted to get
Speaker 2: in a good Ethiopian meal in DC. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've done Ethiopian before. Some good stuff. D C
Speaker 2: is known for having good Ethiopians.
Speaker 1: See, I usually just trust in you to pick out food.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll do well, We'll do well. I think we
Speaker 2: already are are pal Jane Cooston, who is a DC
Speaker 2: local already. I don't know if she's planning on just
Speaker 2: kidnapping us in a van and making us eat different
Speaker 2: things old school style. I think so something like that.
Speaker 2: So I might be just trusting her and you might
Speaker 2: just be trusting me. But either way, we will keep
Speaker 2: you posted. Do you I think we have Do we
Speaker 2: have a wrinkle as well that we are going to
Speaker 2: announce the next couple of weeks about the trip to Texas?
Speaker 2: I believe we do. Yes, Yeah, we have a wrinkle.
Speaker 1: So state there are some things that are happening to
Speaker 1: give too much away? Yeah, okay, Joshua, do you have
Speaker 1: a secret grilled cheese grill? I can't even talk. Do
Speaker 1: you have a secret grilled cheese recipe?
Speaker 2: No white bread, butter, American cheese, maybe a little cheddar.
Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated by the people who put tomato
Speaker 1: on the grilled cheese.
Speaker 2: Oh not for me.
Speaker 1: I know that's not for you. It's not really for
Speaker 1: me either, And I like tomatoes.
Speaker 2: How about this. Anything thicker than bacon on a grilled
Speaker 2: cheese is no longer grilled cheese. It then just becomes
Speaker 2: a melt of whatever that meat is. Like you see
Speaker 2: grilled cheese chocs and like we put short rib. We've
Speaker 2: got this giant short rib on our grilled cheese. Like, no,
Speaker 2: it's a short melt. It's not a grilled cheese. Cheese
Speaker 2: is not the star.
Speaker 1: All right, that's not that hot to take. I have
Speaker 1: a final question for you. Yeah, I need to get
Speaker 1: from you your message for humanity on your birthday, this
Speaker 1: being July twenty fifth, Be.
Speaker 2: Good to each other. Eat less sugar, exercise, making sure
Speaker 2: you don't push yourself too hard, but you know, move around,
Speaker 2: go outside and take more walks. Listen to more podcasts,
Speaker 2: Drink more water, sleep more, Drink more water. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: so inspirational here. Literally every day do I send my
Speaker 2: wife an email saying, Hey, how's the day going. Go
Speaker 2: drink a ton of water, because people just forget they're
Speaker 2: busy during the day and they're not wetting down the
Speaker 2: water slide. You don't slide down water slides that aren't
Speaker 2: don't have a stream of water going down, right, But
Speaker 2: you can't do it too much friction, you can't do it.
Speaker 2: Drink more water, Listen to more podcasts, eat more vegetables,
Speaker 2: do weight bearing exercises, pull ups, push ups, that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. Call people up on the phone instead of
Speaker 2: texting them. Hold on. Should we be saving all of
Speaker 2: these for a future episode that we've already started talking
Speaker 2: about doing with our friend Bill Barnwell. You can you
Speaker 2: can use those because I can go on for a while.
Speaker 2: So this is this is another opportunity to say, we've
Speaker 2: done this annual show about email, email, EMO and sports
Speaker 2: video games from the nineties, and last year we did
Speaker 2: what was it interneting from the nineties?
Speaker 1: Internet? Yeah, Internet habits of the nineteen nineties, that sort.
Speaker 2: Of Internet habits of the nineteen nineties. We do a
Speaker 2: special off topic show with ESPN's Bill Barnwell. And you
Speaker 2: should be if you're an NFL fan at all, you
Speaker 2: should be reading Bill Barnwell, you should be listening to
Speaker 2: the Bill Barnwell podcast hot Terrific totally. We have locked
Speaker 2: in a date for this year's Off topic Bill Barnwell Extravaganza.
Speaker 2: It's coming in the next month or so, before the season. Darren,
Speaker 2: I have one other thing I'd like to point out here.
Speaker 2: What's that there is a new member of the solid
Speaker 2: verbal family.
Speaker 1: The solid verbal family, Okay, the solid pop I've talked
Speaker 1: about it for a couple of weeks now, but the
Speaker 1: soft Puppy people have been asking me. I've been getting emails.
Speaker 1: I've been kept awake at night by Yeah, the pinging
Speaker 1: of my phone. People wanting more info in the Solid puppy.
Speaker 2: Yeah on Meredith Bierra, Yeah, Baira.
Speaker 1: Barro, the twelve twelve week old samoyed pup.
Speaker 2: Okay, everything go well in dog ownership world.
Speaker 1: It's going wonderfully. Yeah, Okay, got the solid pup. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to incorporate her into the podcast,
Speaker 1: provided she doesn't eat the microphone. I'm gonna figure something out. Man.
Speaker 2: Solid baby would definitely try to eat the microphone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna try and figure something out for this
Speaker 1: coming football season. You know how they have like those
Speaker 1: cutesy things sometime to see online where you got to
Speaker 1: treat in one hand and treating the other and the
Speaker 1: treating the right hand is Alabama, the right is Zellousy,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I have now advanced to the
Speaker 1: wise old age where I can do those sorts of
Speaker 1: things thanks to my Solid pup. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna be posting us a video. We
Speaker 2: can do better than that. We can we can be
Speaker 2: more creative. Ye the one hand, of.
Speaker 1: Course, we can't. But I'm just saying generally speaking. You know,
Speaker 1: you know you know how pet owners get into this.
Speaker 1: As a new pet owner, I'm looking forward to incorporating
Speaker 1: our new pupp into.
Speaker 2: So are you Are you feeling good about this about
Speaker 2: the pet ownership thing, solid for puppy?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: You going on walks?
Speaker 1: Going on? Why I'm gonna actually go on a walk
Speaker 1: after we get done recording here solo or with the
Speaker 1: solid wife Kate, solid wife Kate will be with me too, okay,
Speaker 1: Leish definitely, Yeah, she's still likes yet we've got her
Speaker 1: to uh do a bunch of tricks, sit down, roll over,
Speaker 1: well not roll over. She can show us her belly
Speaker 1: same which is body train, getting there, getting there? Okay there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're working on it though.
Speaker 2: How's the shedding.
Speaker 1: No shedding yet, that's a good part. Not yet eventually, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not yet. Sleeping where sleeping downstairs in a crate
Speaker 1: wakes up every morning at about five oh five.
Speaker 2: And it's staying that way. It's not gonna be a
Speaker 2: bed situation, not gonna be like in bed with you.
Speaker 2: All right, that's good. Lay down that law. Can we
Speaker 2: have a question that we fought to the death over
Speaker 2: regarding a pet and bed. You were just like, here's
Speaker 2: my solution be as passive aggressive as you possibly can.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, avoid confrontation wherever.
Speaker 2: But it was like avoid confrontation. We have people write
Speaker 2: in about that, like, what is ty I think we had?
Speaker 2: We had our friend Andy Walls, any Wall, I remember
Speaker 2: that's be an adult and talk here.
Speaker 1: Since then, she probably thinks less of me.
Speaker 2: Your response to anyone was like, I hear you, but
Speaker 2: you could leave notes. It was great. It was such
Speaker 2: a view into your soul that picking like the battle
Speaker 2: for the Syhawk Trophy would never give us. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you to everyone who wrote in. We've
Speaker 1: got six pages of questions here. Yeah that quite frankly
Speaker 1: are amazing. Soliverbleotgmail dot com apologies if we didn't get
Speaker 1: to yours. We're gonna try and do our best over
Speaker 1: the course of the next weeks and months to get
Speaker 1: to all the questions that come in, but as you know,
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard. Also, don't forget to follow us on Facebook,
Speaker 1: on Twitter, on Instagram, and on Reddit. We've got a
Speaker 1: subreddit Reddit dot com slash our slash solid verbal starting
Speaker 1: to heat up. Our friend Peter over there does a
Speaker 1: great job moderating the sub it's where a bunch of
Speaker 1: our ballers gather, congregate and talk about each and every
Speaker 1: episode that we do. And again, this is going to
Speaker 1: be the third time that I say it now. If
Speaker 1: you will be in the Dallas area on August the seventeenth,
Speaker 1: or if you're going to be in the DC area
Speaker 1: on August the eighteenth, the very next night, soliverbaltickets dot com,
Speaker 1: Slash Texas, solidverbaltickets dot com, Slash DC if you want
Speaker 1: to get in on the action, still some tickets available.
Speaker 1: We do expect that we will sell out both locations.
Speaker 1: Tickets are selling at a pretty good clip, but as
Speaker 1: these things go, there are still a few available. So
Speaker 1: we would encourage everyone if you'd like to see the show,
Speaker 1: if that come out and meet us, please do get
Speaker 1: on out, go to those URLs and buy your tickets
Speaker 1: now before it's too late.
Speaker 2: Cannot recommend it enough. Big things planned.
Speaker 1: We're excited. We started talking about fantasy things selections this
Speaker 1: past week, didn't we m hm.
Speaker 2: We did. I'm pumped, all right, all right, that's all
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein one final time, Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2: Sir, Thank you, drink more water.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your evening to everyone out there.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your week, all of your weekend.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week, same time, same place,
Speaker 1: slightly different topics, Still college football. Let's start talking about
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. For that guy over there, my
Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We will
Speaker 1: talk to you all soon. In the meantime, stay soft, Heyce.